Re: Setting file permissions, to make it easier to use theBat! on XP home. Is this method OK?
Fri, 26 Nov 2004 15:33:00 +0100 (9:33 AM EST here) Ralph wrote: > Hello Chris, > @Friday, November 26, 2004, 22:27 you wrote: >> Spend the $50 and upgrade to XP Pro. Search for some other GUI >> program that will let you set permissions. > try FaJo XP File Security Extension v0.9 (XP FSE) from www.fajo.de - > this tool helped me a lot fiddling around with different rights... I installed FaJo XP File Security Extension v0.9 (XP FSE) yesterday. The file and folder Security tabs appeared. The security settings could be altered _on_the_tabs_. I rebooted my system. It was as though I had not checked the tabs' boxes at all. I looked at the security tabs, and the checks were still in the boxes. Then I looked at the Further Information at the bottom of FaJo XP FSE's page http://www.fajo.de/portal/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=6&Itemid= The first Information listed "How to set, view, change or remove file and folder permissions in Windows XP" http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en;308418 has a Reference 307874 "How to disable simplified sharing and set permissions on a shared folder in Windows XP" http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307874 includes a statement saying that simple file sharing is the default setting of Windows XP. Document 307874 also contains this: "Note You cannot turn off simple file sharing in Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition." Does anyone know a way to get around that, without upgrading XP HOme to XP Pro? This may be a clue. When I installed "Nero Burning ROM" on my previous (now defunct) W2k system and again when I installed "Nero Burning ROM" on my new Windows XP Home system, a message from Nero advised me to download, install and run a utility called "Nero Burn Rights Installer," so all of my user accounts can use "Nero Burning ROM." The utility worked. Nero used a utility to make it work. If someone can figure out how, perhaps everyone can do it using a similar utility. Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows XP v5.1 - Build 2600 - Service Pack 2 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting file permissions, to make it easier to use theBat! on XP home. Is this method OK?
Hello Chris, @Friday, November 26, 2004, 22:27 you wrote: > Spend the $50 and upgrade to XP Pro. Search for some other GUI program > that will let you set permissions. try FaJo XP File Security Extension v0.9 (XP FSE) from www.fajo.de - this tool helped me a lot fiddling around with different rights... -- Regards, Ralph The Bat! 3.0.1.33 Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2 Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Setting file permissions, to make it easier to use theBat! on XP home. Is this method OK?
Dan Grunberg @ 2004-Nov-23 4:07:49 PM "Setting file permissions, to make it easier to use theBat! on XP home. Is this method OK?" <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I found two tweaks at TweakXP. One tweak (the second one below) would > change my hard disk's file system to NTFS, so the other tweak (the > first one below) can set sharing permissions on the TB! folder. > I thought I should solicit some second opinions, before I try the > tweaks. > Are the tweaks safe? Yes. > How can I tell if my file system whether or not my hard disk's file > system already is NTFS? If you are having permission problems, you are running on a NTFS file system. The actually check, open My Computer, right click on one of your drives, and select Properties. > Anything else I should think about? Upgrading the Windows XP Pro. --- I replied to a similar message in TBTECH <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am repeating it here: Dan Grunberg @ 2004-Nov-21 2:23:33 PM "Windows XP Home's File Permiissions (slightly off topic but..)" <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Recently I upgraded(?) to a Windows xP Home System. The lack of a > W2000-like concept of group permissions is most inconvenient. It's still very much so there; the GUI just won't let you edit ACLs. > I found these at TweakXP's Home page. > I thought I should solicit second opinions. > 1. Are the tweaks reversable? The first on is; the second one is not (without a format). > 2. Will the tweaks ever HAVE to be reversed? You will need to tweak permissions; you should not need to convert back to FAT32. > 3. Will tweaking XP Home hamper my ability to get XP Home updates > from Microsoft's and/or Compaq's website? Unless you go around messing with permissions on the Windows directory, no. You may now need to log in as an administrator to apply updates. > 5. Any other methods/tweaks I should consider? Spend the $50 and upgrade to XP Pro. Search for some other GUI program that will let you set permissions. > Setting File permissions on XP Home > === > There's a tweak listed on the site for getting XP Pro security > settings on XP Home. > Quick Tip: In order to set file permission in windows XP Home, the > file system must already be converted to NTFS. For more information > on how to convert your file system, click here. > For more information on how to convert your file system to NTFS Click Instead of doing this, you can just boot into Safe Mode when you want to modify the permissions (which you shouldn't need to do very often after you get them setup). > Convert FAT32 To NTFS > == > To change from FAT 32 to NTFS file system for more stability, > security and less fragmentation, open the command prompt and type: > Convert C: /FS:NTFS > "C" being the drive you wish to convert. Make sure there is a space > between the C: and the foward slash (/). Once you press enter it > will ask you for confirmation and press Y. Then press Y and enter > once more to reboot.. This also works for windows XP Home. You will need to be using NTFS to set permissions. You should already be have your disks formatted in NTFS. If not, you can use this, but it does not set ANY permissions. Formatting and re-installing Windows will set the default permissions correctly. If you disk is not already formatted as NTFS and you have little data on the disks, I would re-install Windows. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for your karma. Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Accessing a POP3 mailbox. You can go anywhere you want if you look serious and carry a clipboard. pgpJOyXpZDlRu.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Setting file permissions, to make it easier to use theBat! on XP home. Is this method OK?
Recently I upgraded(?) to a Compaq computer running Windows XP Home. The lack of a W2000-like concept of group permissions is making it difficult to use TheBat! properly. For instance, I can't add words to TB!'s dictionaries from the non-administator user account I prefer to use for email. Also, I can't I train Bayesit from the non-administator account. I found two tweaks at TweakXP. One tweak (the second one below) would change my hard disk's file system to NTFS, so the other tweak (the first one below) can set sharing permissions on the TB! folder. I thought I should solicit some second opinions, before I try the tweaks. Are the tweaks safe? How can I tell if my file system whether or not my hard disk's file system already is NTFS? Anything else I should think about? This came from http://www.tweakxp.com/tweak911.aspx Setting File permissions on XP Home === There's a tweak listed on the site for getting XP Pro security settings on XP Home. It's good, but I've found an easier way to set sharing permissions on folders. You can use the GUI instaed of the more complicated command line without having to go into safe mode. 1. Click on the start button 2. Then run 3. Type shrpubw 4. Chose the folder whose permissions you want to change and give the share a name 5. Click next, now you can chose custom if you want to have full options. Quick Tip: In order to set file permission in windows XP Home, the file system must already be converted to NTFS. For more information on how to convert your file system, [see the next tweak]. This came from http://www.tweakxp.com/tweakxp/display.asp?id=264 Convert FAT32 To NTFS == To change from FAT 32 to NTFS file system for more stability, security and less fragmentation, open the command prompt and type: Convert C: /FS:NTFS "C" being the drive you wish to convert. Make sure there is a space between the C: and the foward slash (/). Once you press enter it will ask you for confirmation and press Y. Then press Y and enter once more to reboot.. This also works for windows XP Home. Using: The Bat! v2.12.00, BayesIt! 0.5.9, MyMacros 1.11, gMacrosPlugin 0.80 Windows XP v5.1 - Build 2600 - Service Pack 2 -- Daniel A. Grunberg Kensington, Maryland, USA homepage: www.nyx.net/~dgrunber/ Current version is 3.0.1.33 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
