Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Richard, M I can even see a 'Paste formatted' option, which I don't know what it M does but the name seems to suggest something Unfortunately it doesn't paste formatted from Word but it was so easy to align all my lists with the Tab button that it only took a few minutes. Glad you have it solved. Anyway, AFAIR, no text editor gets the formatting when you copy from Word and paste. But I may be wrong. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello MAU, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M no text editor gets the formatting when you copy from Word and paste That's another useful snippet of information learnt thanks. Although why Word can't make formatting exportable I don't know. Maybe it's time to give OpenOffice a go. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Richard, M no text editor gets the formatting when you copy from Word and paste That's another useful snippet of information learnt thanks. Although why Word can't make formatting exportable I don't know. Maybe it's time to give OpenOffice a go. It is not a Word problem, you would have the same problem if you go to OpenOffice. It is a problem between _word_ processors and _text_ processors. When you copy something from a _word_ processor, that includes all the extra information that you don't see (i.e. formatting, paragraph hierarchy, fonts and sizes, colours, possible indexing info, etc.,etc.) and the word processor doesn't know (it can't) where you are going to paste that. You may want to paste it just a couple of pages away, or in another word document, or Follow me? When you paste something in a _text_ processor, how can it know where it comes from to understand its formatting, etc.? Does a text processor have to understand the special coding (formatting) done by MS Word, OpenOffice, etc.? So, all it pastes are ASCII text characters with the basic formatting that can be done with ASCII characters like space and end of line and it strips all other control and formatting characters (actually combinations) it cannot understand. That's how it more or less works :) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello MAU, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M When you paste something in a _text_ processor, how can it know where it M comes from to understand its formatting, etc.? Does a text processor M have to understand the special coding (formatting) done by MS Word, M OpenOffice, etc.? So, all it pastes are ASCII text characters with the M basic formatting that can be done with ASCII characters like space and M end of line and it strips all other control and formatting characters M (actually combinations) it cannot understand. Another little thing learnt. I thought that Tabs were carried over in the copying. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Richard, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:59:11 +0100GMT Richard Wakeford wrote: RW Another little thing learnt. I thought that Tabs were carried over in RW the copying. yes, tabs are copied, but how they display depends of your text editor. Tab setting in word processors is normally defines in cm or inces, in text editors you define your tab in number of characters. -- Regards, Feli The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 BayesIt! 0.8.4 Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Richard, Another little thing learnt. I thought that Tabs were carried over in the copying. They may, but not always. Some times formatting done apparently with tabs is done by other means, for example paragraph indentation may be done by setting different margins for different paragraphs. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Feli, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] FW yes, tabs are copied, but how they display depends of your text editor. FW Tab setting in word processors is normally defines in cm or inces, in FW text editors you define your tab in number of characters. Maybe that's why, when I copied my tabbed Word doc to SmartBat, the tabs had no rhyme or reason to them. They were all over the place and I had to retab within SmartBat itself. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello MAU, On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M They may, but not always. Some times formatting done apparently with M tabs is done by other means, I've just replied to Feli on the same subject. At least I now have my columns, however I had to do it :-) In the particular Word document I attempted to copy across, it was formatted purely with tabs (apart from carriage returns at line endings of course) but there was no consistency in the copying across, even though there were only two tabs per line and the tab settings were for the whole document, no other stray tabs in sight. There's always something to learn with PCs isn't there? Sometimes good, sometimes bad but, fortunately for me anyway, I've not had any really bad moments :-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
MAU @ 12/14/2005 5:48:13 AM Smart Bat column alignment mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] That's how it more or less works : Sort of... When Word (or OpenOffice) puts something on the clipboard, it puts it one there is multiple formats. I know that Words puts it on in plain text (the clipboard default), RTF, and Word format. When another program goes to read from the clipboard, it specifies to format that it wants. SmartBat probably only asks for the plain text. So, whatever Word puts on the clipboard in plain text is what SmartBat gets. -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. How do I set my laser printer on stun? pgpf94BsVsYh9.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Chris, That's how it more or less works : Sort of... When Word (or OpenOffice) puts something on the clipboard, it puts it one there is multiple formats. I know that Words puts it on in plain text (the clipboard default), RTF, and Word format. When another program goes to read from the clipboard, it specifies to format that it wants. SmartBat probably only asks for the plain text. So, whatever Word puts on the clipboard in plain text is what SmartBat gets. I didn't know that. Thanks for the clarification. -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Nobody? :-( -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello Richard, Nobody? :-( I don't use Smartbat at all but, have you tried right-clicking just anywhere inside it to get the context menu? I can even see a 'Paste formatted' option, which I don't know what it does but the name seems to suggest something ;-) -- Best regards, Please support the wish for a 'Draft' folder at: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=5441 Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.63.09 (Beta) Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello MAU, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M I don't use Smartbat at all but, have you tried right-clicking just M anywhere inside it to get the context menu? I can even see a 'Paste M formatted' option, which I don't know what it does but the name seems to M suggest something ;- Write 1000 times I must remember to use the RMB! So simple that I never thought about it and yet it's all there already under utilities at the bottom of the menu. I now have nice columns and, once again, thanks a million. You're going to be in beer for life with all the help you give here :-) -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat column alignment
Hello MAU, On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 you wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] M I don't use Smartbat at all but, have you tried right-clicking just M anywhere inside it to get the context menu? Just as a follow up I'd still like some way to tell you if the three autoformatting, autowrap and justify on wrap are on or off as there's absolutely no indication as to which way they're set. M I can even see a 'Paste formatted' option, which I don't know what it M does but the name seems to suggest something Unfortunately it doesn't paste formatted from Word but it was so easy to align all my lists with the Tab button that it only took a few minutes. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Smart Bat column alignment
Hello, How do you get columns to align in smart bat? I have one page which is meant to have columns in it. However Smat Bat behaves like MicroEd in that, if you don't have line spaces, all lines become one the moment you start to edit. do all my editing by copying to Word, making adjustments to the columns, and pasting back in. It doesn't matter if I use tabs or the space bar or convert it to columns in Word. It still shows as a misaligned mess when pasting back into Smart Bat. I can't write it directly into Smart Bat as I don't want a line space between each line of information. That would necessitate far too much scrolling up and down. It would be good to have the same choices as in MicroEd and to be able to turn off the autoformat and autowrap facilities. -- Regards, Richard | The Bat! 3.63.08 (Beta) with SpamPal POP3 account and no Plug-ins | Windows XP (build 2600), version 5. 1 Service Pack 2 | F-Prot AV, Outpost Firewall Pro 3.0, Spysweeper, Adaware, SpyBot Holiday in France: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/lazyhomes/holiday.html Current version is 3.62.14 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
