Problem solved: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Thomas,

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 14:57:50 +0630 GMT (08-Jun-18, 14:57 +0700 GMT),
Thomas Fernandez wrote:

> Hello MFPA,

> On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 06:51:16 +0100 GMT (08-Jun-18, 12:21 +0700 GMT),
> MFPA wrote:

>> On Tuesday 5 June 2018 at 7:26:19 AM, in
>> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


>>> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by
>>> filter and not by
>>> downloading, these filters are not triggered.  

>
>> Is the option "continue processing with other filters" selected in 
>> your filter that moves the messages to Account B?

> No it is not, because I don't want TB! to continue with other filters.
> There  might  one  that  is  lower  in the list; sorting my filters is
> something I am careful with.

> I would think that sub-filters are always checked (in the order of the
> subfilters)  even  if  "continue..." is not checked, as otherwise they
> are inactive.

>> Also, why the two-step process? You could do away with the first 
>> filter and move messages straight from Account A Inbox to the required
>> folder in Account B.

> I  think this would be the solution. However, here is the reason why I
> have the two-step process:

> The email address is an alias of a main email address. So, while it is
> a  different  address,  it is really the same mailbox. This made sense
> when  only  a  few  messages  arrived  there.  However,  the volume is
> increasing  so that I first had sub-folders, and now an entire account
> (which does not check emails).

> The  main  filter for this is triggered by that alias email address in
> Headers,  and  then  the  subfilters  are  supposed  to  sort into the
> different folders in that new dummy account.

> Thinking  about  it,  it  is  unlikely that someone uses my main email
> address  with a Header that is used as a trigger in the subfilters. So
> I will take this way and change the subfilters to be main filters.

> Thanks for this tip!

So,  I  did that: Moved the sub-filters out to become main filters and
they still didn't work. The weirdest thing!

I then looked more closely and found another filter higher up in the
list that moved these mail to account B's Inbox. And of course it
didn't continue with other filters so that they were never triggered.

I moved that offending filter down in the list (it has some other
conditions, but there is some overlap), moved the subfilters back to
become subfilters, and now all works as desired.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello MFPA,

On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 06:51:16 +0100 GMT (08-Jun-18, 12:21 +0700 GMT),
MFPA wrote:

> On Tuesday 5 June 2018 at 7:26:19 AM, in
> , Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


>> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by
>> filter and not by
>> downloading, these filters are not triggered.  


  ,
> Is the option "continue processing with other filters" selected in 
> your filter that moves the messages to Account B?

No it is not, because I don't want TB! to continue with other filters.
There  might  one  that  is  lower  in the list; sorting my filters is
something I am careful with.

I would think that sub-filters are always checked (in the order of the
subfilters)  even  if  "continue..." is not checked, as otherwise they
are inactive.

> Also, why the two-step process? You could do away with the first 
> filter and move messages straight from Account A Inbox to the required
> folder in Account B.

I  think this would be the solution. However, here is the reason why I
have the two-step process:

The email address is an alias of a main email address. So, while it is
a  different  address,  it is really the same mailbox. This made sense
when  only  a  few  messages  arrived  there.  However,  the volume is
increasing  so that I first had sub-folders, and now an entire account
(which does not check emails).

The  main  filter for this is triggered by that alias email address in
Headers,  and  then  the  subfilters  are  supposed  to  sort into the
different folders in that new dummy account.

Thinking  about  it,  it  is  unlikely that someone uses my main email
address  with a Header that is used as a trigger in the subfilters. So
I will take this way and change the subfilters to be main filters.

Thanks for this tip!

> I did away with per-account filters long ago and switched to Common 
> filters instead, which I find far easier. I would suggest giving them 
> a try.

These mails only arrive in that one main account, and the account they
are  filtered  into is a dummy account. I would like to make it a main
account  but  will have to check with GMX whether they can do it. If I
just  delete  the alias from the main account and then try to create a
new  account with that address, GMX will block that address from being
created  for  a certain time, I believe. And then I cannot receive any
mails, which would be a problem.
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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[MFPA]

Hi


On Tuesday 5 June 2018 at 7:26:19 AM, in
, Thomas Fernandez wrote:-


> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by
> filter and not by
> downloading, these filters are not triggered.  


Is the option "continue processing with other filters" selected in 
your filter that moves the messages to Account B?

Also, why the two-step process? You could do away with the first 
filter and move messages straight from Account A Inbox to the required 
folder in Account B.

I did away with per-account filters long ago and switched to Common 
filters instead, which I find far easier. I would suggest giving them 
a try.
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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 7:13:25 PM, you wrote:

> In  that  case,  maybe  I  should  try  and delete the filter and just
> recreate it. I'll come back with the result.

> By the way, I am talking about POP accounts.

I would have thought they would work better. Mine are all IMAP accounts.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:37:31 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 22:37 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 10:16:39 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes, manual refiltering works.

> Hmmm. Unfortunately I find that depending on the ISP and probably what IMAP
> platform they use, that filtering is a bit flaky. I have some accounts that 
> will
> automatically filter my messages 90 % of the time, but then refuse to filter
> identical messages no matter what I do. Its like The Bat just quits filtering 
> at
> some point.

> I also come up against the ones that don't filter automatically, but filter 
> just
> fine with re-filter.

In  that  case,  maybe  I  should  try  and delete the filter and just
recreate it. I'll come back with the result.

By the way, I am talking about POP accounts.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 10:16:39 AM, you wrote:

> Yes, manual refiltering works.

Hmmm. Unfortunately I find that depending on the ISP and probably what IMAP 
platform they use, that filtering is a bit flaky. I have some accounts that 
will 
automatically filter my messages 90 % of the time, but then refuse to filter 
identical messages no matter what I do. Its like The Bat just quits filtering 
at 
some point.

I also come up against the ones that don't filter automatically, but filter 
just 
fine with re-filter.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:04:17 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 22:04 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 9:37:30 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes, it is right below account A. Hmmm...

> Does the re-filter work.

Yes, manual refiltering works.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 9:37:30 AM, you wrote:

> Yes, it is right below account A. Hmmm...

Does the re-filter work.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 07:10:58 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 19:10 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 1:26:19 AM, you wrote:

>> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by filter and not by
>> downloading, these filters are not triggered.

> It works here. I wonder if it matters if account b is below account a in the
> list of accounts. I'm not sure how an account would know if it arrived by 
> filter
> or not.  Does it work if you re-filter account 
> B after the mail has been moved there?

Yes, it is right below account A. Hmmm...

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Tuesday, June 5, 2018, 1:26:19 AM, you wrote:

> Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by filter and not by
> downloading, these filters are not triggered.

It works here. I wonder if it matters if account b is below account a in the 
list of accounts. I'm not sure how an account would know if it arrived by 
filter 
or not.  Does it work if you re-filter account 
B after the mail has been moved there?

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hello Stuart,

On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 20:14:37 -0500 GMT (05-Jun-18, 08:14 +0700 GMT),
Stuart Cuddy wrote:

> Hello Thomas,
> Monday, June 4, 2018, 7:52:57 PM, you wrote:

>> I Have a filter in one account (A) which moves the mails to another
>> account (B), and in that account (B) should sort them into folders. So
>> the sorting into the folders is done by sub-filters

>> Alas, the sub-filters are not being executed, all mails filtered into
>> account  B end up in the Inbox.

>> Is there anything I need to do which I am not aware of?

> Have you tried putting your sub-filters into account B as Inbox filters?

Yes.  But  since  the  mails  are  arriving there by filter and not by
downloading, these filters are not triggered.

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Re: Sub-filtering across accounts

[Stuart Cuddy]

Hello Thomas,
Monday, June 4, 2018, 7:52:57 PM, you wrote:

> I Have a filter in one account (A) which moves the mails to another
> account (B), and in that account (B) should sort them into folders. So
> the sorting into the folders is done by sub-filters

> Alas, the sub-filters are not being executed, all mails filtered into
> account  B end up in the Inbox.

> Is there anything I need to do which I am not aware of?

Have you tried putting your sub-filters into account B as Inbox filters?

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Sub-filtering across accounts

[Thomas Fernandez]

Hi TBUDL,

I Have a filter in one account (A) which moves the mails to another
account (B), and in that account (B) should sort them into folders. So
the sorting into the folders is done by sub-filters

Alas, the sub-filters are not being executed, all mails filtered into
account  B end up in the Inbox.

Is there anything I need to do which I am not aware of?

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Thomas.

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