Re: TB and MS Exchange (was:Wish List)

1999-11-22 Thread Syafril Hermansyah


Hello Thomas Fernandez,

On Monday, November 22, 1999, 13:54:45 (GMT +07:00) you told us:

TF I just checked and was told we use MS Exchange version 5.5

OK.

TF Just  tried  to  send a message to one of my accounts via our SMTP
TF server, and the below is what happened.

TF When  I  use  my address book and the address I send to is "mozart
TF [EMAIL PROTECTED]"  (without quotation marks), the error
TF message  will  say that mozart is not recognized, i.e. seeing only
TF the "Real Name" not even the email address.

That'snothappentome.   I   can   send (for example)
To: Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED]
no problem (note: I set accepted domain = dutaint.co.id).

TF I  feel  that  the  Exchange  server means "not recognized in this
TF domain" in both cases, and never tries to send it into cyberspace.

This is setting in "Relay Control" at Internet Mail Connector.
The  default  setting  for Exchange MTA is to accept or reject message
came to them, if match the domain list = accepted otherwise rejected.

In  my  case  all  message  came from POP3 or IMAP set to route via my
Relay  Host (i.e. My Mdaemon Mail Server). Please check to the routing
table in Internet Mail Connector.

TF Most  of the time, however, I do not even get an error message. By
TF mistake,  I  forgot  to  reset  the SMTP seerver after these tests
TF before  sending  this  post,  and my email just disappeared. (I am
TF resending this post now after adding this paragrph.)

TF So   I   can  send  messages  only  to  users  within  the  domain
TF "aafi.com.tw"  with  The  Bat!.  Colleagues  using Outlook have no
TF problems sending to the outside world.

Outlook with Exchange transport ? Of course no problem.

TF Something wrong in my TB settings, as you said you have tested it
TF successfully?

Yes, see header of this message, I send this message via Exchange.

TF ===8==This is a forwarded message=
TF From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF Date: Monday, November 22, 1999, 2:18:56 PM
TF Subject: Undeliverable: Fwd: Re: MS Exchange (was:Wish List)

TF Your message

TF   To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF   Cc:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TF   Subject: Fwd: Re: MS Exchange (was:Wish List)
TF   Sent:Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:23:07 +0800

TF did not reach the following recipient(s):

TF [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:25:36 +0800
TF The recipient name is not recognized
TF The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=TW;a=
TF ;p=AAFI;l=NT19911220625XDRRSLY5
TF MSEXCH:IMS:AAFI:AAFI:NT1 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient

This happen to me without modification of Routing Table.

TF ===8===End of original message text===

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Re[2]: TB and MS Exchange (was:Wish List)

1999-11-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Syafril,

on Monday, November 22, 1999, 4:11:40 PM GMT+0800, Syafril Hermansyah wrote:

TF When  I  use  my address book and the address I send to is "mozart
TF [EMAIL PROTECTED]"  (without quotation marks), the error
TF message  will  say that mozart is not recognized, i.e. seeing only
TF the "Real Name" not even the email address.

SH That'snothappentome.   I   can   send (for example)
SH To: Syafril Hermansyah[EMAIL PROTECTED]
SH no problem (note: I set accepted domain = dutaint.co.id).

I noticed that when I send message from my address within the domain
to an internet address outside, the message just disappr\ears.

If I send it from another address (this one, for example) to an
internet address outside our domain, I receive an error message.

TF I  feel  that  the  Exchange  server means "not recognized in this
TF domain" in both cases, and never tries to send it into cyberspace.

SH This is setting in "Relay Control" at Internet Mail Connector.
SH The  default  setting  for Exchange MTA is to accept or reject message
SH came to them, if match the domain list = accepted otherwise rejected.

It does not reject the server name. It just doesn't recognize an email
address as Real Name user@domain but uses Real Name as user under
its own domain. If there is no Real Name, it uses the full address
as user name under its own domain. Thus it says "this user does not
exist here", which is the only reason for rejection.

It does not reject because the domain of the recipient is not accepted.

SH In  my  case  all  message  came from POP3 or IMAP set to route via my
SH Relay  Host (i.e. My Mdaemon Mail Server). Please check to the routing
SH table in Internet Mail Connector.

I have no problem with the POP server, only with the SMTP server.

TF So   I   can  send  messages  only  to  users  within  the  domain
TF "aafi.com.tw"  with  The  Bat!.  Colleagues  using Outlook have no
TF problems sending to the outside world.

SH Outlook with Exchange transport ? Of course no problem.

g But I still advertise how wonderful TB is, especially for those
who have a private email address in addition to their company email on
the Exchange server...

TF Something wrong in my TB settings, as you said you have tested it
TF successfully?

SH Yes, see header of this message, I send this message via Exchange.

OK, clarify for the stupid guy (that's me): Is there something wrong
with my settings in TB, or is there something wrong with the settings
of the Exchange server?

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Re[3]: TB and MS Exchange (was:Wish List)

1999-11-22 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hallo tracer,

On Monday, November 22, 1999, 9:28:06 PM (GMT+0800), tracer wrote:

t Thomas, could you try sending it to your email address without the Mozart
t node...

I will try that in the morning when I'm back in the office, but I
don't expect it to be any different. I also tried it with this ibm.net
email address, same result. I have contacted the sysadmin with
Syafril's information about the Internet Mail Connector. He is not
in-house, though, and I expect it to take some time until he comes.
Will let you now.

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Re: TB and MS Exchange (was:Wish List)

1999-11-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Dear Syafril,

I just checked and was told we use MS Exchange version 5.5

Just tried to send a message to one of my accounts via our SMTP
server, and the below is what happened.

When I use my address book and the address I send to is "mozart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]" (without quotation marks), the error
message will say that mozart is not recognized, i.e. seeing only the
"Real Name" not even the email address.

I feel that the Exchange server means "not recognized in this domain"
in both cases, and never tries to send it into cyberspace.

Most of the time, however, I do not even get an error message. By
mistake, I forgot to reset the SMTP seerver after these tests before
sending this post, and my email just disappeared. (I am resending this
post now after adding this paragrph.)

So I can send messages only to users within the domain "aafi.com.tw"
with The Bat!. Colleagues using Outlook have no problems sending to
the outside world.

Something wrong in my TB settings, as you said you have tested it
successfully?

Thanks help,

Thomas.   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

===8==This is a forwarded message=
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, November 22, 1999, 2:18:56 PM
Subject: Undeliverable: Fwd: Re: MS Exchange (was:Wish List)

Your message

  To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Fwd: Re: MS Exchange (was:Wish List)
  Sent:Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:23:07 +0800

did not reach the following recipient(s):

[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 22 Nov 1999 14:25:36 +0800
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=TW;a=
;p=AAFI;l=NT19911220625XDRRSLY5
MSEXCH:IMS:AAFI:AAFI:NT1 0 (000C05A6) Unknown Recipient


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Re[2]: TB and MS Exchange (was:Wish List)

1999-11-21 Thread Thomas Fernandez

Hi Thomas,

on Monday, November 22, 1999, 2:54:45 PM GMT+0800, Thomas Fernandez wrote:

TF Most of the time, however, I do not even get an error message. By
TF mistake, I forgot to reset the SMTP seerver after these tests before
TF sending this post, and my email just disappeared. (I am resending this
TF post now after adding this paragrph.)

Correction: I got the error message - just a bit later than expected.

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