Re: Undocked Toolbars!
Hello there, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 4:53:42 PM, Barry wrote: I don't know how I've managed it but all my toolbars are undocked. Well, I accidetaly grabbed the menu bar and undocked it. I can attach it back allright, but it just won't stick where it was. I'm using the window split mode 'Full-height Account tree' and the menu was over the account tree, but it does not get back there. It looks like this: http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6817/thebattoolbarsxr9.png I tried changing the split mode around, but that does not help. I also detached and double-clicked the bar, but that just puts it in changing places, which is sort of weird. How do I get the bugger back in place? Also, is there a way to lock those bars? It's a nice thing they are so easily movable, but it's not the sort of thing you use all the time... ;) Thanks. -- Using The Bat! v4.0.18 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Undocked Toolbars!
Yikes! I don't know how I've managed it but all my toolbars are undocked. i can drag and dock them to both sides and the bottom, but there's no way that I can get them to stick (or even attempt to stick) to the top of the window under the menu. Any suggestions gratefully received. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.18 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
[Reply to: »Barry« · 2008-03-26 · 16:53 h (CET)] Moin, Barry! I don't know how I've managed it but all my toolbars are undocked. Any suggestions gratefully received. It's known and already resolved issue. Just take the latest version of The Bat! .·¨[4.0.18.6]¨·. ·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·— The Bat! 4.0.18.6 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40186.rar ·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·— Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.18.6 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly vanish and be replaced by something even more bizarre and incomprehensible. There is another theory which states that this has already happened …« Douglas Adams ('52 - '01), »The Restaurant at the End of the Universe« Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 16:53:42, Barry wrote: Any suggestions gratefully received. Try double-clicking the titlebar of undocked toolbars. -- Jernej Simončič http://eternallybored.org/ I have seen the truth and it makes no sense. -- Chesterton's Observation Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
On 26/03/2008 16:13:35, Volker Ahrendt wrote: It's known and already resolved issue. Just take the latest version of The Bat! Hi Volker I guess 4.0.18.6 is a beta, if I select Check for update I just get No updates available At least it's a known fault. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.18 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Undocked Toolbars!
Now I'm confused. My client identifies as 4.0.18 (no .6 at the end). If I click check for update it says there isn't. If I go to website to download, it shows me the same .msi package I already have. I can handle an .rar, but what's the difference? dan Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 10:13:36 AM, you wrote: [Reply to: »Barry« · 2008-03-26 · 16:53 h (CET)] Moin, Barry! I don't know how I've managed it but all my toolbars are undocked. Any suggestions gratefully received. It's known and already resolved issue. Just take the latest version of The Bat! .·¨[4.0.18.6]¨·. ·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·— The Bat! 4.0.18.6 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb40186.rar ·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·— Cheers! VA -- The road goes on forever and the party never ends. REK, Jr. Dan Lester, Boise, ID Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
Hello all, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, Dan Lester wrote: Now I'm confused. My client identifies as 4.0.18 (no .6 at the end). If I click check for update it says there isn't. If I go to website to download, it shows me the same .msi package I already have. I can handle an .rar, but what's the difference? version 4.0.18.6 is sixth beta build released after 4.0.18, when will be this beta session finished, new final 4.0.19 or other number will be released. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.0.18.6 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.7 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Undocked Toolbars!
Other than it being a beta (with all the usual warnings) is there any reason to NOT update to the beta? Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 10:45:43 AM, you wrote: Hello all, Wednesday, March 26, 2008, Dan Lester wrote: Now I'm confused. My client identifies as 4.0.18 (no .6 at the end). If I click check for update it says there isn't. If I go to website to download, it shows me the same .msi package I already have. I can handle an .rar, but what's the difference? version 4.0.18.6 is sixth beta build released after 4.0.18, when will be this beta session finished, new final 4.0.19 or other number will be released. -- The road goes on forever and the party never ends. REK, Jr. Dan Lester, Boise, ID Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
Hallo Dan, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 10:55:51 -0600GMT (26-3-2008, 17:55 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DL Other than it being a beta (with all the usual warnings) is there any DL reason to NOT update to the beta? Not really, as far as I can see it's running fine. DL Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 10:45:43 AM, you wrote: Oh. And consider yourself trouted for top posting. Otherwise I'd send an official warning, but I've still got PGP troubles on my new computer. -- Groetjes, Roelof Windows-Reboot more before 9AM than most users do all day http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.18.6 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
On 26/03/2008 16:18:02, Jernej Simonèiè wrote: Try double-clicking the titlebar of undocked toolbars. Well, I don't know how but I've managed to get everything stuck back in place. What a performance! I'll wait for the next public release now... Thanks. -- Best regards Barry barryh'at'kentra'dot'co'dot'uk Using TheBat! version 4.0.18 and AntispamSniper 2.7.1.7 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Undocked Toolbars!
Hey, I don't consider top posting a sin when you can see the whole context in a fraction of a screen. Like this one. I'm normally a total interlinear posting freak, but when that's not needed.. Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 11:09:57 AM, you wrote: Oh. And consider yourself trouted for top posting. Otherwise I'd send an official warning, but I've still got PGP troubles on my new computer. -- The road goes on forever and the party never ends. REK, Jr. Dan Lester, Boise, ID Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 1:53:01 PM, Dan Lester wrote: Hey, I don't consider top posting a sin PGP priorities just went up. -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Undocked Toolbars!
Maybe I'm napping, but how does PGP relate to top posting??? I'm not a real PGP guy, but I don't get it. Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 1:05:54 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 1:53:01 PM, Dan Lester wrote: Hey, I don't consider top posting a sin PGP priorities just went up. -- The road goes on forever and the party never ends. REK, Jr. Dan Lester, Boise, ID Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 2:23:32 PM, Dan Lester wrote: I'm not a real PGP guy, but I don't get it. dissing a moderator is not a good plan -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 2:23:32 PM, Dan Lester wrote: I'm not a real PGP guy, but I don't get it. dissing a moderator is not a good plan I think he doesn't understand. Dan, you must post BELOW your quotes. Roelof is a moderator and was letting you know nicely that you broke that list rule. You are also expected to trim quotes and not let them get excessive - leave enough to maintain meaning (just a rules-heads up) :) -- Rick The Mideast Oil Crusade did more for militant Islam than Osama EVER could have. v4.0.18.6 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Undocked Toolbars!
Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 1:28:33 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 2:23:32 PM, Dan Lester wrote: I'm not a real PGP guy, but I don't get it. dissing a moderator is not a good plan I'm not dissing anybody. And I have no clue who is a moderator on here. I have moderated LISTSERV(R) lists, from 15-20 at a time, for 19 years, and am well familiar with the problems, prerogatives, etc, of being one. I'm nearing retirement and have cut down to nine of them now. But if expressing an opinion on top postings not being a sin in certain situations is considered dissing, I'm missing that clue, too. And, I don't recall getting a welcome message that explicitly said top posting is a mortal sin and will send you straight to some very hot place. Of course there could be senility setting in, or it could be that it went into my spam folder along with 95 percent of the stuff that arrives in the box. The wonderful AntispamSniper is fantastic, about 99.8 percent perfect at the moment for me, but like me, and presumably thee, it isn't yet perfectnor do I expect it to be. cheers dan -- The road goes on forever and the party never ends. REK, Jr. Dan Lester, Boise, ID Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Undocked Toolbars!
Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 1:35:16 PM, you wrote: On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 2:23:32 PM, Dan Lester wrote: I'm not a real PGP guy, but I don't get it. dissing a moderator is not a good plan I think he doesn't understand. Dan, you must post BELOW your quotes. Roelof is a moderator and was letting you know nicely that you broke that list rule. You are also expected to trim quotes and not let them get excessive - leave enough to maintain meaning (just a rules-heads up) :) As just posted, I never saw any specific rules, or else napped through them. That's how it is with us old geezers that have been in the computing business for 48 years (yeah, vacuum tubes, punched paper tape, etc, etc). As noted also, I've run lists for just under two decades in multiple environments, and am fanatic on trimming quotes. If I screwed up on that, my apologies. I'd have to check my outbox to be sure. I also noted that I only top post when it makes sense to me (i.e. can see whole content in one screen). But you can be sure I won't do it again, and that I'll recover from the whiplashes. And you can be sure I'm a law and order type of guy. If I know the rules I'm happy to follow them, whether I like them or notwhich irritates me no end every time I take my Corvette out on the freeway. But to get back to a questionwhat the heck does the top posting have to do with PGP anyway? dan -- The road goes on forever and the party never ends. REK, Jr. Dan Lester, Boise, ID Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
On Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 2:45:30 PM, Dan Lester wrote: But if expressing an opinion on top postings not being a sin in certain situations is considered dissing, I'm missing that clue, too. well I'll let the moderator explain it, but he asked you to follow the rules and you just proceeded to lecture about how it was ok to ignore them -- Dwight A. Corrin 316.303.9385 phone ahead to fax dcorrin at fastmail.fm photo galleries at http://dcorrin.smugmug.com Using IMAP with The Bat! 4.0.18.6 on Windows XP version 5,1 (Service Pack 2) Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
Hallo Dan, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:49:56 -0600GMT (26-3-2008, 20:49 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DL But to get back to a questionwhat the heck does the top posting DL have to do with PGP anyway? Nothing. But had PGP functioned properly on my new PC, you'd have received an official warning. -- Groetjes, Roelof Veni, Vedi, Vomitus. (I came, I saw, it made me sick) http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.18.6 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
Hi Dan, on Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:45:30 -0600GMT (26.03.2008, 20:45 +0100GMT here), you wrote: DL And, I don't recall getting a welcome message No problem. You can get it every time here: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html Select TBUDL. -- Cheers Peter Hardware, n.: The parts of a computer system that can be kicked. Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
[Reply to: »Dan Lester« · 2008-03-26 · 20:49 h (CET)] Moin, Dan! [List Rules] As just posted, I never saw any specific rules, or else napped through them. Here you are: .·¨[http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/subtbudl.txt]¨·. ·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·— […] If you reply to a list post: trim! Delete most of the original post except the important aspects. What we're getting at here is that you don't hit reply to a four paragraph question, type your response at the top and hit send. Try to cut out as much as possible while retaining the general gist of the original message. While we're here, this list frowns on the practice of 'top posting'. Please use in-line responses - it makes the whole experience more conversational: […] ·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·—·— I hope we can end this discussion now and return to on topic. No offense meant, Dan! :-) Cheers! VA - -- Direct eMail without [The Bat!] in subject line will end in Nirvana! mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 4.0.18.6 [Pro] on Windows XP [Pro] Service Pack 2. »The knack of flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.« Douglas Adams (1952 - 2001), »The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy« Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Undocked Toolbars!
Thanks for the explanation. Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 2:02:18 PM, you wrote: Hallo Dan, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 13:49:56 -0600GMT (26-3-2008, 20:49 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DL But to get back to a questionwhat the heck does the top posting DL have to do with PGP anyway? Nothing. But had PGP functioned properly on my new PC, you'd have received an official warning. -- The road goes on forever and the party never ends. REK, Jr. Dan Lester, Boise, ID Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
Hallo Dwight, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:05:54 -0500GMT (26-3-2008, 20:05 +0100, where I live), you wrote: DAC PGP priorities just went up. ACK -- Groetjes, Roelof Be nice to your kids. They'll choose your nursing home. http://www.voormijalleen.nl/ The Bat! 4.0.18.6 Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000 3 pop3 accounts OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpqOTyK3oykp.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Mod: Top posting (was: Undocked Toolbars!)
Hallo Dan, On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 14:30:04 -0600GMT (26-3-2008, 21:30, where I live), you wrote: DL Thanks for the explanation. DL Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 2:02:18 PM, you wrote: Hallo Dan, moderator Note: This moderator's interjection is a note to all readers and not just to the person being replied to, even if their post may have instigated this reply. Please don't feel singled out Dan. ' This posting violated the list rules regarding top posting. Top posting, i.e., typing all your reply text at the top of your message and following it with all quoted text below, is not encouraged and we actually request that you not do so on this list because a) It makes it difficult to glean context from what you typed at the top of the message and b) It encourages excessive quoting. We would much prefer if you quote just that much of the message to which you're replying, so we know what it is you're referring to, and then below the quotation, type your response. If you're responding to more than one part of the original, then quote each part separately and follow each part with your response. Now, I know that you may not personally prefer this format and that you may disagree with some of the reasoning here. We very much respect this. However, this is the format that most of the active members here prefer and all members are expected, and are being asked to use the format that will make most of the active membership here comfortable reading. You'll likely get a more responsive group when you post using a style that is comfortable for them to read and understand. To find out why these MOD messages are posted to the list instead of private mail, please read the welcome message you received when you subscribed. Thank you. /moderator -- Groetjes, Roelof Kan bestand niet openen E:\Batmail\moderator.txt pgpKxcwhgoVlK.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Undocked Toolbars!
Dan Lester @ 2008-3-26 2:49:56 PM Undocked Toolbars! mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I also noted that I only top post when it makes sense to me (i.e. can see whole content in one screen). But you can be sure I won't do it again, and that I'll recover from the whiplashes. I've got a 1280x1024 sitting next to a 1024x768, so what I can see on one screen greatly differs. However, the general logic seems sound. The devil is always in the details. -- Christopher Using The Bat! v4.0.18 on Windows Vista 6.0 Build 6000. Accessing POP3 and IMAP4 mailboxs. If the English language made any sense, lackadaisical would have something to do with a shortage of flowers. -Doug Larson pgpdHGeP941cP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.18 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html