Re: Deleting HTML attachment (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Brian Clark]

Hi Thomas,

@ 4:16:25 AM on 4/13/2001, Thomas wrote:

...
T It seems the attachment extension depends on the machine. I jsut
T received another HTML message, the attachment is also called
T "message.shtml", but the content-type is multipart/alternative
T (followed by a boundary), and I have no problems deleting the
T attachment.

T Has anybody ever been able to delete the HTML part of a message
T with a content-type text/html?

Mine are always .htm, and I don't have the delete option in the
context menu *only* when the content-type is text/html. But, I can hit
the Del key to delete it.

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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

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Hi Thomas,
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 12:41:30 +0800 you wrote:

 The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the content-type
 is text/html.

On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not
.shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I
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HTML attachment (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Thomas]

Hi Lars,

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:27:25 +0200GMT (13/04/2001, 14:27 +0800GMT),
Lars Geiger wrote:

 The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the content-type
 is text/html.

LG On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not
LG .shtml

I checked again, and it is "message.shtml" over here. Getting stranger
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Re[2]: Uninstall Problem-Help.

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Dear Lars

On 13 April 2001 at 08:27:25 +0200 (which was 07:27 where I live) Lars
Geiger might have written

 The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the content-type is
 text/html.

 On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not
 .shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I
 can't delete the attachment either.

Mine is called [message.stm] content type the same and no I can not delete
it.

Are these differences caused by the different mail servers ?

What I do like is the last lines added by the list it looked like

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HTML attachments (was; Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Thomas]

Hi David,

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 07:40:18 +0100GMT (13/04/2001, 14:40 +0800GMT),
David Elliott wrote:

DE Are these differences caused by the different mail servers ?

I don't think that the mail server can change the name of an
attachment.

DE What I do like is the last lines added by the list it looked like

DE Archives   :Moderators :TBTech List:Unsubscribe:

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Deleting HTML attachment (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Thomas]

Hi Lars,

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 08:27:25 +0200GMT (13/04/2001, 14:27 +0800GMT),
Lars Geiger wrote:

 The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the content-type
 is text/html.

LG On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not
LG .shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I
LG can't delete the attachment either.

It seems the attachment extension depends on the machine. I jsut
received another HTML message, the attachment is also called
"message.shtml", but the content-type is multipart/alternative
(followed by a boundary), and I have no problems deleting the
attachment.

Has anybody ever been able to delete the HTML part of a message with a
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Re: HTML attachments (was; Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Thomas,
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 15:38:36 +0800 you wrote:

DE Are these differences caused by the different mail servers?

 I don't think that the mail server can change the name of an
 attachment.

I just exported that particular message and had a closer look at
the headers and the message body. First of all, there is no name
for the attachment anywhere. That reminds me of a thread some
time ago about the differences in the appearance of a html
attachment in TB!, some people reporting .stm, some .shtml and
some other extensions.

The second problem is that there is no plain text part, only the
html part. So obviously that's the reason why TB! refused to
delete the html part, as there would have been nothing left to
display :-) So I guess TB! can only delete a html part if the
content type is multipart/alternative.


DE What I do like is the last lines added by the list it
DE looked like
DE Archives   :Moderators :TBTech List:Unsubscribe:

 Ack.

Same here, and that's really strange, as these lines are correct
in the exported message.

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Re: Deleting HTML attachment (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Lars Geiger]

Hi Thomas,
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 16:16:25 +0800 you wrote:

 Has anybody ever been able to delete the HTML part of a message
 with a content-type text/html?

I think that a message with content type text/html contains
*only* a html part and that's the reason why TB! is unable to
delete that part. Deleting the only content would create an empty
message. So IMHO it is the right thing not to let the user delete
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Re[2]: HTML attachments (was; Uninstall Problem-Help.)

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On 13 April 2001 at 10:23:57 +0200 (which was 09:23 where I live) Lars
Geiger wrote or so historians believe

 First of all, there is no name for the attachment anywhere.

True.

 That reminds me of a thread some time ago about the differences in the
 appearance of a html attachment in TB!, some people reporting .stm, some
 .shtml and some other extensions.

Interesting idea. It looks like it based on the set up of each receiving
computer

 The second problem is that there is no plain text part

snip
 So I guess TB! can only delete a html part if the content type is
 multipart/alternative.

That makes sense.


DE What I do like is the last lines added by the list it
DE looked like
DE Archives   :Moderators :TBTech List:Unsubscribe:

 Ack.

 Same here, and that's really strange, as these lines are correct
 in the exported message.

Correct but these lines fall outside of any html/html tags. The message
and the [You are subscribed as] line both fall inside some of these tags.

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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

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On 13 April 2001 at  21:31:04 -0700 (which was 05:31 where I  live)
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Please do not write to the list in HTML. It is against the list rules
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filters to move any HTML mail directly to trash.

mn I installed the Bat 1.51 and wanted to uninstall. Went to
mn Control-add/remove-clicked the bat and immediately this error came
mn up"Exception E registry exception in module TBAT_Del.exe at
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Re: HTML attachments (was; Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Lars Geiger]

Hi David,
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, at 09:58:10 +0100 you wrote:

 Interesting idea. It looks like it based on the set up of each
 receiving computer

It seems so.

Have a look at Marck's bug report:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg23001.html

And this is the thread where the problems regarding different
extensions on different machines was discussed:
http://www.mail-archive.com/tbudl@thebat.dutaint.com/msg22937.html

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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

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On Friday, April 13, 2001 at 8:27:25 AM you wrote:

 On my machine, the attachment is shown as "message.html", not
 .shtml and its content type is text/html. But you are right, I
 can't delete the attachment either.

Same here.

BTW, what happened to the mailing list's footlines in that message?


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Re: Deleting HTML attachment (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Douglas Hinds]

Hello Thomas  others on this TB! list  following this thread,

Friday, April 13, 2001,  you asked:

T Has anybody ever been able to delete the HTML part of a message with a
T content-type text/html?

This is what I do:

I redirect the message using Crtl+F6, addressing it to the same
address it came in with. I then select the attachment and delete it.
Then I save it to the outbox, and drag it back to the folder it was
in. Lastly, I delete the original. This is one of things redirecting
is good for.

Douglas

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Uninstall Problem-Help.

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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

[Thomas]

Hi Mark,

delete the whole The Bat! directory, and the reg key HKCU / Software /
RIT, and you're done.

BTW I hear-say that a new (near future) install version of TB should
also install a correct uninstall facility.

However, your message is an example of an HTML attachment that cannot
be deleted. The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the
content-type is text/html. Can anybody confirm that this combination
always results in undeletable HTML attachments?

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Re: Uninstall Problem-Help.

[Brian Clark]

Hi Thomas,

@ 12:41:30 AM on 4/13/2001, Thomas wrote:

...
T However, your message is an example of an HTML attachment that
T cannot be deleted. The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the
T content-type is text/html. Can anybody confirm that this
T combination always results in undeletable HTML attachments?

Not confirmed here, unless I'm going blind. :)

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Re: Deletion of HTML attchmt (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Brian Clark]

Hi Thomas,

@ 1:24:20 AM on 4/13/2001, Thomas wrote:

...
T However, your message is an example of an HTML attachment that
T cannot be deleted. The attachment has an ".shtml" extension and the
T content-type is text/html. Can anybody confirm that this
T combination always results in undeletable HTML attachments?

BC Not confirmed here, unless I'm going blind. :)

T The Delete option is greyed out in the context menu over here.
T Maybe this is fixed in the beta?

OK, maybe I misunderstood what you were talking about.

I'm working in 'View Folder' mode (no preview). When I read a message
it's usually from the [buggy] Ticker. I hit Ctrl+O, read the message
[if it opens]. I hit Alt+J Esc if I want to keep it, and Del if I don't.

When I hit Del earlier, then went back and checked the attachments
folder to see if what you mentioned was true, I don't see any left
over attachments.

I don't have any HTML mail over here at the moment to check the
context menu, so I can verify the greyed out Delete menu there.

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Re: Deletion of HTML attchmt (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Brian Clark]

Hi Brian,

@ 1:37:19 AM on 4/13/2001, Brian Clark wrote:

...
BC context menu, so I can verify the greyed out Delete menu there.
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Re: Deletion of HTML attchmt (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Thomas]

Hi Brian,

On Fri, 13 Apr 2001 01:37:19 -0400GMT (13/04/2001, 13:37 +0800GMT),
Brian Clark wrote:

T The Delete option is greyed out in the context menu over here.
T Maybe this is fixed in the beta?

BC OK, maybe I misunderstood what you were talking about.

Apparently.

I have HTML autoview disabled. When I receive HTML messages, I focus
on the attachment icon to the left of the actual message; in the
preview pane or in the folder view. Then I right-click on that
attachment icon, and a context menu pops up with options like
open/save/delete/print etc. Usually I hit "delete", thus deleting the
HTML attachment, and keep only the plain-text version of the mail.

It was reported earlier that this method "sometimes" does not work,
and here we have an example were it didn't. We want to find out why.
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Re: Deletion of HTML attchmt (was: Uninstall Problem-Help.)

[Brian Clark]

Hi Thomas,

@ 1:53:35 AM on 4/13/2001, Thomas wrote:

...
T Apparently.

*grumble*

T I have HTML autoview disabled. When I receive HTML messages, I focus
T on the attachment icon to the left of the actual message; in the
T preview pane or in the folder view. Then I right-click on that
T attachment icon, and a context menu pops up with options like
T open/save/delete/print etc. Usually I hit "delete", thus deleting the
T HTML attachment, and keep only the plain-text version of the mail.

OK, gotcha.

T It was reported earlier that this method "sometimes" does not work,
T and here we have an example were it didn't. We want to find out why.

OK, the next time I get an HTML attachment (as I have HTML auto-views
disabled, too), I'll try it then report back in this thread.

T That was my point.

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