Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hi On Tuesday 17 January 2006 at 7:52:23 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Meathrel wrote: If I have time later I will search BT to see if there is a wish already. Otherwise I will create one. Cheers. Keep us posted. -- Best regards, MFPA Free advice costs nothing until you act upon it Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hi On Monday 16 January 2006 at 8:04:35 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Meathrel wrote: The ODBC driver would be made to be read only. So any programs accessing it could only read data out but not write in. This then deals with the security issue but allows you to have one single source of contact info which is accessible in Word to do mail merges. Excellent idea. Is there a feature request to support? -- Best regards, MFPA Roses smell better than onions but don't make such good soup Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hi MFPA, Tuesday, January 17, 2006, 3:53:32 PM, you wrote: Excellent idea. Is there a feature request to support? No idea, it just seemed a sensible solution to a common problem. If I have time later I will search BT to see if there is a wish already. Otherwise I will create on. -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP Current version is 3.65.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hi On Saturday 14 January 2006 at 10:40:10 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Meathrel wrote: Perhaps supplying an ODBC driver to allow connection to the address book (still retaining it's proprietary format) would be a good solution, since this deals both with the issue of accessibility and the security issue. As part of TB!' or as an extra download? -- Best regards, MFPA Did you hear? They took the word gullible out of the dictionary Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hi MFPA, Monday, January 16, 2006, 7:49:23 PM, you wrote: As part of TB!' or as an extra download? Either really, probably as part of the main install. The ODBC driver would be made to be read only. So any programs accessing it could only read data out but not write in. This then deals with the security issue but allows you to have one single source of contact info which is accessible in Word to do mail merges. -- Warmest regards, Paul Created using TheBat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hi On Wednesday 4 January 2006 at 6:00:03 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Roelof Otten wrote: TF I received your message seven times. Only me? I didn't. Only one copy here. I often receive the odd extra copy or two of a message but a handy remove duplicates function has thoughtfully been included in my copy of TB! -- Best regards, MFPA Always borrow money from a pessimist - they don't expect it back Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Howdy Thomas, Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 5:33:39 PM, Thomas wrotened: TF On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:23:51 +1100 GMT (04/01/2006, 18:23 +0700 GMT), TF Ian A. White wrote: IAW I am not sure that this would necessarily be such a good idea TF I received your message seven times. Only me? I did. But i put it down to being tired... So i thought i was reading a similar message seven times. Oh dear. -- Have Fun, Benedict Allen Ben is Rohop mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Clinton lied. A man might forget where he parks or where he lives, but he never forgets oral sex, no matter how bad it is, * Barbara Bush (Former U.S. First Lady, and, you didn't think Barbara had a sense of humor!) Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 22:16:50 + GMT, Graham wrote: In the address book: Select a(n/umber of) address(es) File - Export to - Export selection - and pick one of the plain text types This seems to just export the address as a text file which needs to be saved as a file, and them imported into Word - is that what you meant. Or imported into Excel and then data connected into Word. -- /Fredrik The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Fredrik, Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 9:10:31 AM, you wrote: Or imported into Excel and then data connected into Word. This is all too involved, I think that I will just maintain two address books. Thanks -- Graham Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Group, On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 10:55:36 AM, Graham wrote: This is all too involved, I think that I will just maintain two address books. Thanks Probably way OT for this group but it seems to me that we need an address book standard so that any address book app can use it. That would enable users to have one central address book for use by any program. Now, who can put a standard together and 'sell' it to the industry? -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Ian! On Wednesday, January 04, 2006, 5:23 AM, you wrote: I know that many don't like that, but the reality is that if a common format was to be followed, it would have to follow that otherwise it would simply be another format. Now maybe a bridging application that acted as an agent between The Bat! and any other address book might be more secure than adopting another standard as The Bat! native address book format. I agree with this opinion, Ian. My chief reason for choosing The Bat! in the beginning, and right on up to today, was/is that it is more secure than other e-mail clients. Everything else that I use in the program--and there is much--is a bonus. :) -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[6]: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Jeff, Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 11:15:20 AM, you wrote: Probably way OT for this group but it seems to me that we need an address book standard so that any address book app can use it. That would enable users to have one central address book for use by any program. Now, who can put a standard together and 'sell' it to the industry? In some respects a standard already exists, in that PDAs, mobile phones, Word, Wordperfect, and a whole range of PIM software all use or/and sync with the Outlook address book, not just import the Outlook addresses but keep them in sync. Over the years I have used Outlook as a conduit to many programs and PDAs/mobile phones, and a personal solution for me would be able to sync The Bat! address book with Outlook. -- Graham Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Graham, Over the years I have used Outlook as a conduit to many programs and PDAs/mobile phones, and a personal solution for me would be able to sync The Bat! address book with Outlook. I am using such a solution: I made it a habit to edit Contacts only in Outlook, and only add new ones (e.g. from an email address) in a special TheBat-addressbook called ToOutlook that I created. I export these to Outlook in a CSV-file, which is easy. Also I import the OL-addressbook into TheBat on a regular basis (due to a bug in the TheBat I have to also delete the addressbook file impol.adb before this) so both are in sync. Sounds complicated, but I got used to this by the time. -- Martin TB! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
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Hello Martin, Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 3:21:41 PM, you wrote: I am using such a solution: I made it a habit to edit Contacts only in Outlook, and only add new ones (e.g. from an email address) in a special TheBat-addressbook called ToOutlook that I created. I export these to Outlook in a CSV-file, which is easy. Also I import the OL-addressbook into TheBat on a regular basis (due to a bug in the TheBat I have to also delete the addressbook file impol.adb before this) so both are in sync. Sounds complicated, but I got used to this by the time. Yes, I might try something like that. Thanks, -- Graham Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Ian, On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:23:51 +1100 GMT (04/01/2006, 18:23 +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: IAW I am not sure that this would necessarily be such a good idea I received your message seven times. Only me? -- Cheers, Thomas. Wenn ich Sie jetzt um Sex bitten wuerde - waere Ihre Antwort die gleiche, die Sie auf diese Frage geben? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hallo Thomas, On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 00:33:39 +0700GMT (4-1-2006, 18:33 +0100, where I live), you wrote: IAW I am not sure that this would necessarily be such a good idea TF I received your message seven times. Only me? I didn't. -- Groetjes, Roelof It is easier to catch flies with honey than with vinegar. The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp0BK1tJBimD.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Thomas, Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 9:33:39 AM, you wrote: I received your message seven times. Only me? Same here. -- Thanks, Terry Using the Bat! 3.62.14 under Windows XP Service Pack 2 2600 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hallo Ian, On Wed, 4 Jan 2006 22:23:51 +1100GMT (4-1-2006, 12:23 +0100, where I live), you wrote: JG Probably way OT for this group but it seems to me that we need an JG address book standard so that any address book app can use it. That IAW I am not sure that this would necessarily be such a good idea as one Neither am I. TB stores a lot of application dependant data in the AB. Templates for instance. I wouldn't like an AB application that stores TB templates, Outlook specific stuff, etc all in one. Next comes that Outlook AB groups and TB AB groups aren't compatible. And finally there's the vulnerability aspect that's been mentioned before. And for those who're running OTFE wth an encrypted message base and AB it would be going back to the unencrypted days -- Groetjes, Roelof It takes about ten years to get used to how old you are. The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgp7Uells0xX3.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Thomas! On Wednesday, January 04, 2006, 11:33 AM, you wrote: IAW I am not sure that this would necessarily be such a good idea I received your message seven times. Only me? Happened here, also. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Jeff Gaines @ 1/04/2006 5:15:20 AM Using The Bat address book outside the Bat mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Probably way OT for this group but it seems to me that we need an address book standard so that any address book app can use it. That would enable users to have one central address book for use by any program. Now, who can put a standard together and 'sell' it to the industry? If you believe the hype behind WinFS (Microsoft's next generation file system), we will very soon have a common, extendable address book for the entire system. Personally, I think that, if implemented properly, this could be a very exciting change. We'll see... -- Chris Quoting when replying to this message is good for you and me. Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2. Accessing a POP3 mailbox. Sign on motorway garage: PLEASE DO NOT SMOKE NEAR OUR PETROL PUMPS. YOUR LIFE MAY NOT BE WORTH MUCH, BUT OUR PETROL IS pgpsZGy9I8oDP.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Mary, I received your message seven times. Only me? Happened here, also. Not here. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v3.64.01 Christmas Edition Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Graham, Tuesday, January 3, 2006, 8:00:31 PM, you wrote: GS Is there anyway of exporting an address from The Bat! into Word to use GS in a letter. Just to save keeping information in two places * Export Your address book to a text file (pref CSV). * Open Word and select Tools - Mail Merge * Use the pop up window to do the next 2 steps. * Create a main document (say: form letters) and choose either active or new document * Get Data from Data Source and use 'Open data source' and point to your exported file. * Word will tell you that is has found no merge fields. Accept this. * You'll have a new toolbar available, that under 'Insert Merge Fields' ought to list all data fields available. * Insert fields to liking. * Please note that witl toolbar button ' ABC' you'll be able to switch between field names and the data. With the arrows you'll move around your data. Please find additional help either in Words native Help file or in handbooks. Definitely OT! Nevertheless I hope this was useful for some-one... (I used Word 2000 while noting down this example.) -- Best regards, Gerrit Kiers Using The Bat! v3.62.14 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Group, On Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 6:47:07 PM, Chris wrote: If you believe the hype behind WinFS (Microsoft's next generation file system), we will very soon have a common, extendable address book for the entire system. Personally, I think that, if implemented properly, this could be a very exciting change. We'll see... That would be excellent, provided they tackle any security issues, and of course it may be the generation after next :-) -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Gerrit, Wednesday, January 4, 2006, 10:11:31 PM, you wrote: * Export Your address book to a text file (pref CSV). * Open Word and select Tools - Mail Merge * Use the pop up window to do the next 2 steps. * Create a main document (say: form letters) and choose either active or new document * Get Data from Data Source and use 'Open data source' and point to your exported file. * Word will tell you that is has found no merge fields. Accept this. * You'll have a new toolbar available, that under 'Insert Merge Fields' ought to list all data fields available. * Insert fields to liking. * Please note that witl toolbar button ' ABC' you'll be able to switch between field names and the data. With the arrows you'll move around your data. Please find additional help either in Words native Help file or in handbooks. Definitely OT! Nevertheless I hope this was useful for some-one... Thanks, but yes a bit OT for what I want. :-) -- Graham Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Ian, On Thu, 5 Jan 2006 07:27:41 +1100 GMT (05/01/2006, 03:27 +0700 GMT), Ian A. White wrote: TF I received your message seven times. Only me? IAW This is probably testing things too much, but I am checking things IAW using dial-up as I am away on holiday, but I did not have multiple IAW messages waiting for me when I checked this morning. Some received them multiple, some didn't. As all seven messages had the same mid, I can imagine that those who received it only once have a seerver-side delete duplicates function or something. If it were purely on my side, I would be the only one seeing it. However, it seems to have been a one-time glitch. -- Cheers, Thomas. Die Inseln des Mittelmeeres sind alle groesser oder kleiner als Sizilien. http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello all, A couple of questions Is there anyway of exporting an address from The Bat! into Word to use in a letter. Just to save keeping information in two places And is there a command line option for popping up the address book outside The Bat that I could use with Macro Express or Active Words. To look up an address without opening the Bat, or at least open The Bat, with the address book open. -- Thanks, Graham Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hallo Graham, On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 19:00:31 +GMT (3-1-2006, 20:00 +0100, where I live), you wrote: GS Is there anyway of exporting an address from The Bat! into Word to use GS in a letter. Just to save keeping information in two places In the address book: Select a(n/umber of) address(es) File - Export to - Export selection - and pick one of the plain text types GS And is there a command line option for popping up the address book GS outside The Bat No. -- Groetjes, Roelof I've got all this emotional baggage and no claim check. - SLR The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 account, server on LAN OTFE enabled P4 3GHz 2 GB RAM pgpTBp2Dokza4.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Roelof, Tuesday, January 3, 2006, 9:26:29 PM, you wrote: In the address book: Select a(n/umber of) address(es) File - Export to - Export selection - and pick one of the plain text types This seems to just export the address as a text file which needs to be saved as a file, and them imported into Word - is that what you meant. -- Thanks, Graham Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hi, On Tuesday, January 3, 2006 at 8:00:31 PM, Graham Smith wrote: And is there a command line option for popping up the address book outside The Bat that I could use with Macro Express or Active Words. Maybe you can have a look at the /EXPORTLDIF command line. -- Ludovic LE MOAL The Bat! 3.64.01 Christmas Edition on Windows 98 4.10 Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Using The Bat address book outside the Bat
Hello Ludovic, Tuesday, January 3, 2006, 8:06:13 PM, you wrote: And is there a command line option for popping up the address book outside The Bat that I could use with Macro Express or Active Words. Maybe you can have a look at the /EXPORTLDIF command line. OK, I will have a look at this, thanks -- Graham Current version is 3.64.01 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
