Version 4 is causing frustration at every turn!
Hi, I'm not having a very good time with this new version of TB! It could just be that I haven't yet figured out some basic changes; or, it's simply not working as it should. I hope someone can assure me that it's the former, and steer me in the right direction... 1) After an unsatisfactory support ticket experience, I'm still unable to get a simple auto-response filter to work. The ticket was abruptly closed...without a solution. 2) Selecting text in a message I wish to reply to, and hitting the F4 key no longer creates a reply message with just the selected text quoted. Instead, the entire message is quoted. I tried finding a macro that might help in a reply template, but so far, no satisfaction. 3) Where did the Edit Shortcuts option go? The Help file still insists that it can be found at View/Edit Shortcuts, but it's not there, and I can't seem to find it anywhere else. While this new version looks somewhat polished, it's not working very well for me. At this point, I'm beginning to expect the unexpected, and not in a happy way. Help! -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 pgpOmGzhGoc94.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4 is causing frustration at every turn!
Hello all, Tuesday, June 29, 2010, Melissa Reese wrote: 2) Selecting text in a message I wish to reply to, and hitting the F4 key no longer creates a reply message with just the selected text quoted. Instead, the entire message is quoted. I tried finding a macro that might help in a reply template, but so far, no satisfaction. what viewer (plaintext/richtext) and editor (microed/windows editor/html editor) do You use? I have using plaintext viewer with microed editor and had no problem ever. 3) Where did the Edit Shortcuts option go? The Help file still insists that it can be found at View/Edit Shortcuts, but it's not there, and I can't seem to find it anywhere else. in View | Toolbars | Customise and second tab Shortcuts -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 4.2.36.4 under Windows 7 6.1 Build 7600 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, AntispamSniper v 3.2.4.5 Notebook Thinkpad, Core2 Duo 2.40 GHz, 4 GB RAM Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4 is causing frustration at every turn!
Hi Marek, On Tuesday, June 29, 2010, at 4:49:09 AM PST, you wrote: what viewer (plaintext/richtext) and editor (microed/windows editor/html editor) do You use? I have using plaintext viewer with microed editor and had no problem ever. I've always used only plain text, with microed editor. For some reason, this particular time, select text/F4 worked! And yet... In another folder, with the very same reply template, it's still not working (it's still quoting entire original message). And then in others, it will quote the selected text, but with some additional text that wasn't selected (usually a few of the lines above the selected text). 3) Where did the Edit Shortcuts option go? The Help file still insists that it can be found at View/Edit Shortcuts, but it's not there, and I can't seem to find it anywhere else. in View | Toolbars | Customise and second tab Shortcuts Thanks. It certainly wasn't described this way in the Help file: The Shortcut Editor is available in most of The Bat!'s non-modal windows (such as main window, separate message browser, address book, message editor) - you can invoke it by using the View|Edit Shortcuts menu command of any of such window. And still, no solution to the auto-response filter issue. Thanks for your quick reply and help! -- Melissa PGP Public Key: http://tinyurl.com/2cmefzy TB! v4.2.36.4 on Windows XP 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 pgpRgpS4xSDy1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4 is causing frustration at every turn!
Hi On Tuesday 29 June 2010 at 1:07:05 PM, in mid:1926590073.20100629050...@gmx.com, Melissa Reese wrote: It certainly wasn't described this way in the Help file: The Help file is usually woefully out of date. For my version of TB!, Help | About says Copyright © 1997-2008 but the date in the help file (under legal information) says Copyright © 1997-2005. -- Best regards MFPAmailto:expires2...@ymail.com The best way to destroy your enemy is to make him your friend. Using The Bat! v4.0.38 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4 is causing frustration at every turn!
Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 1:43:02 PM, you wrote: 1.) ... 2.) ... 3.) ... 4. Problems with IMAP; 5. scheduler sometimes schedules, sometimes does not; 6. URL manager shows empty lists; 7. Purge+Compact sometimes does its job only on the repeated keypress (Ctrl+C) 8. etc., etc... -- Zoltan smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Current version is 4.2.23 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What's with the version 4 updates?
Batfolk, I started this morning installing version 4.0.0.2, and now I have just downloaded and installed 4.0.11, going via 4.0.7 and 4.0.9 on the way. Anyone know what the updates have been about? Robin -- Robin Using The Bat! v4.0.11 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Popfile v0.22.4 Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's with the version 4 updates?
On Sat, 9 Feb 2008, at 15:30:54 [GMT +1100] (which was 5:30 where I live) Robin Anson wrote: Batfolk, I started this morning installing version 4.0.0.2, and now I have just downloaded and installed 4.0.11, going via 4.0.7 and 4.0.9 on the way. Anyone know what the updates have been about? Robin Some fixes ;-) -- Henk __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 4.0.11 Pro on Windows XP SP2 AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.5 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org pgparsX5sKUe5.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 4.0.0.22 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's new in version 4?
On 26-11-2007 16:19 Roman Katzer wrote: I've been trying to find information on what's going to be new in version 4, but have been unsuccessful. Did my turkey-induced food coma blind me or is there nothing out there? Where have you looked? -- Met vriendelijke groet, Henk M. de Bruijn Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (20071031) Enigmail 0.95.5 OpenPGP message encryption and authentication pgpjI5jUS81Z8.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's new in version 4?
On 26/11/2007, Henk M. de Bruijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where have you looked? Googled it and looked around on the mailing list and on the RITLabs web page. The URL you sent eluded me for some reason. I'll blame it on the turkey! Best regards from a former neighbor (Aachen), Roman -- Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's new in version 4?
On 27/11/2007, Henk M. de Bruijn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2188 Thanks Henk! I wonder why I overlooked that. Still, no screenshots yet - I'm looking forward to when there is more information. Best regards, Roman -- Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
What's new in version 4?
Hi all, I've been trying to find information on what's going to be new in version 4, but have been unsuccessful. Did my turkey-induced food coma blind me or is there nothing out there? Regards, Roman -- Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
Hi, My TB! handle more than 400.000 messages, near of 5GB disk space, with absolutly no problem, fast and efficient. ,- - [ Le jeudi 22 novembre 2007 vers 23:56 Jeff Gaines écrivait: ] - - | I don't know if anyone else has said this and I missed it, but the last time I tried PocoMail it couldn't cope with 18 emails! Doug I can't envisage ever expecting an email program to deal with that sort of storage. If it's important it gets saved externally, if not it's dead after a month or so. | `- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- Best regards... _ (_' L'informatique est ma passion, vous la simplifier, mon métier ! ,_)téphane Bouvard [antarex AT freenet DOT be] http://www.antarex.be Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
Jeff On Mon, 19 Nov 2007, at 22:49:40 [GMT +] (09:49:40 20/11/2007 Australian Eastern Time) you wrote: I am continuing my struggle to find a combined Calendar/PIM/Email client and am currently trying Barca 2. Try Linux KDE PIM. Everything and more that you possibly need as well as Palm integration. I think that the Gnome interface may also have a similar feature from Novell as well, but I like the KDE interface better, YMMV. Also Open Office seamless, and free! If serious about this, I suggest Suse 10.3. Very stable and user friendly. -- Regards, John Phillips *** Confidentiality, Privilege Notice, and Warning *** This e-mail is intended only to be read or used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you must not copy or deliver this message to anyone, and you must destroy this message and notify the sender by return e-mail. This e-mail and attachments, if any, have not been scanned for virus threats, worms, trojan horse attacks, or any other electronic form of disruption. It is your responsibility to scan for same, and take appropriate action where necessary. Fashion Fair will not, under any circumstances whatsoever, accept any responsibility for such computer born problems. Details of our privacy policy can be viewed at www.fashionfair.com.au Fashion Fair Pty Ltd (and associated companies) Established 1981 PO Box 274 (2 Mark Street) Lidcombe 1825, Australia Telephone +61 2 9749 1933 Fax +61 2 9749 2727 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat! Version 4
Hello John, Tuesday, November 27, 2007, 3:06:04 AM, you wrote: Try Linux KDE PIM. Everything and more that you possibly need as well as Palm integration. I think that the Gnome interface may also have a similar feature from Novell as well, but I like the KDE interface better, YMMV. Also Open Office seamless, and free! If serious about this, I suggest Suse 10.3. Very stable and user friendly. On Windows one could try Thunderbird and install the 'Lightning' Extension to get the Calendar/PIM. -- Best regards, Mean Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: What's new in version 4?
On 26-11-2007 16:19 Roman Katzer wrote: Hi all, I've been trying to find information on what's going to be new in version 4, but have been unsuccessful. Did my turkey-induced food coma blind me or is there nothing out there? http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news_detail.php?ID=2188 and http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/thebat/news.php?ID=49 I have understood that the new GUI will be part of 4.1 an not 4.0 -- Met vriendelijke groet, Henk M. de Bruijn Mozilla Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (20071031) Enigmail 0.95.5 OpenPGP message encryption and authentication signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
I don't know if anyone else has said this and I missed it, but the last time I tried PocoMail it couldn't cope with 18 emails! Doug Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat! Version 4
Hello Group, On Tuesday, November 20, 2007, 3:16:29 PM, Peter wrote: If you are looking for a combined PIM/Email try !ntelect. This is a combination of Time and Chaos which is an excellent PIM with their email client Express Plus. I use TC but did not like their email client. Not sure anymore why, but try it out if you use TC for PIM. It seems designed to manage just one email account - if you want to deal with more you have to keep switching folders. Barca is working for me ATM, I'm running in parallel with TB for now. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Using The Bat! v3.98.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat! Version 4
Hello Group, On Thursday, November 22, 2007, 9:00:06 PM, Doug wrote: I don't know if anyone else has said this and I missed it, but the last time I tried PocoMail it couldn't cope with 18 emails! Doug I can't envisage ever expecting an email program to deal with that sort of storage. If it's important it gets saved externally, if not it's dead after a month or so. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Using The Bat! v3.98.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: TheBat! Version 4
On Thu, November 22, 2007 22:56, Jeff Gaines wrote: Hello Group, On Thursday, November 22, 2007, 9:00:06 PM, Doug wrote: I don't know if anyone else has said this and I missed it, but the last time I tried PocoMail it couldn't cope with 18 emails! Doug I can't envisage ever expecting an email program to deal with that sort of storage. If it's important it gets saved externally, if not it's dead after a month or so. TheBat! has no problems, very fast text searching even with more than that. Recipes, posts on archaeology, etc. I want to keep. -- Doug Weller Director/Moderator The Hall of Ma'at http://www.hallofmaat.com/ Doug's Skeptical Archaeology site: http://www.ramtops.co.uk Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
Hello Jeff, On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:56:54 + GMT (23/11/2007, 05:56 +0700 GMT), Jeff Gaines wrote: I don't know if anyone else has said this and I missed it, but the last time I tried PocoMail it couldn't cope with 18 emails! Doug JG I can't envisage ever expecting an email program to deal with that JG sort of storage. If it's important it gets saved externally, if JG not it's dead after a month or so. I have more messages than that on my office computer. TB! handles the amount beautifully, including searches across folders and accounts. -- Cheers, Thomas. What to not say to the nice policeman: So, uh, you on the take or what? http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.99.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, at 08:54:38 [GMT +0100] (which was 8:54 where I live) Mogens Holst wrote: I have been using Barca for nearly two years and the only thing I miss is the ability to make phone calls from the contact list. Highly recommended. That's why you read TBUDL ;-) I gave both Barca and Pocomail a look today, did a quick look around for PGP implementation but could not find that. So I think I just wait for the Bat! 4.0 -- Henk M. de Bruijn __ The Bat! E-Mail System version 3.99.29 Pro on Windows XP SP2/OTFE enabled AntispamSniper for the Bat! 2.7.1.5 Thawte notary, CAcert assurer, GSWoT introducer Gossamer Spider Web of Trust http://www.gswot.org pgpznNHSSHewT.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
Hello Jeff, Monday, November 19, 2007, 5:49:40 PM, you wrote: Jeff Hello Group, Jeff I am continuing my struggle to find a combined Calendar/PIM/Email Jeff client and am currently trying Barca 2. Jeff Does anybody know if TB v4 will add any PIM type functionality or a Jeff better diary? If not I fear it may be time to move on for me. If you are looking for a combined PIM/Email try !ntelect. This is a combination of Time and Chaos which is an excellent PIM with their email client Express Plus. I use TC but did not like their email client. Not sure anymore why, but try it out if you use TC for PIM. http://www.chaossoftware.com/ -- Best regards, Peter The BAT 3.99.29, Windows XP, Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
Hello Henk, .. In an email on or about 20-11-2007 you wrote the following: .. That's why you read TBUDL ;-) .. To each his own. .. I gave both Barca and Pocomail a look today, did a quick look around for PGP implementation but could not find that. So I think I just wait for the Bat! 4.0 .. If you really, really need PGP Barca is not for you. For those of us who need a stable quality program with useable features Barca is a good option. .. -- mvh Mogens Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
Hello all, Tuesday, November 20, 2007, Mogens Holst wrote: .. If you really, really need PGP Barca is not for you. For those of us who need a stable quality program with useable features Barca is a good option. .. Pocomail is nice puzzle, really, I love interface. Barca has nice calendar. thats all It is not PGP support only, where these products lacks. It doesn't support nor S/MIME and this is a big problem, there are many institutions, where You must use digitallly signed messages. Virtual folders are not supported, this is a big miss. Problem is with codepages, for example support for eastern codepages is very limited, this is nightmare for them and for users from Eastern Europe. Localisation is a problem for Pocosystems too, there are some languages only and AFAIK they are not updated to latest versions for a long time. As I think, antispam API with AntispamSniper is much betten then their integrated solution. There are strange usability things like if You want import MSG messages, You can must rename them to EML and when You want to select folder, You must write path directly, there is no selection. After all, Pocomail has many useful things, some of them are better than The Bat! has, some of them as worse. And I do not want to write, The Bat! is perfect in all ways. But for many users, Pocomail is unusable and it seems, PocoSystemsd likes improving GUI instead of working on security and core features allowing international use. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.99.29 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: TheBat! Version 4
I gave both Barca and Pocomail a look today, did a quick look around for PGP implementation but could not find that. So I think I just wait for the Bat! 4.0 If you really, really need PGP Barca is not for you. For those of us who need a stable quality program with useable features Barca is a good option. Mmmm. Stability is a basic option every email program should have. :-) What I still didn't find is a program that shows my dayly e-newspaper, several e-zines, weekly newsletters from shops and more such things I'm subscribed to. They all use HTML and I don't like to start every time my browser to see it correct. -- Regards, Gunivortus Using The Bat Vs. 3.99.25 under Vista Bussiness 64 bit Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
Hello all, Tuesday, November 20, 2007, Gunivortus Goos wrote: What I still didn't find is a program that shows my dayly e-newspaper, several e-zines, weekly newsletters from shops and more such things I'm subscribed to. They all use HTML and I don't like to start every time my browser to see it correct. and You will see them with external images in 4.0 :-) -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.99.29 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 with MyMacros,XMP,AnotherMacros, NOD32 Antivirus plugin and AntispamSniper v 2.7.1.5 Notebook Toshiba, Core2 Duo 1.83 GHz, 1 GB RAM Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
TheBat! Version 4
Hello Group, I am continuing my struggle to find a combined Calendar/PIM/Email client and am currently trying Barca 2. Does anybody know if TB v4 will add any PIM type functionality or a better diary? If not I fear it may be time to move on for me. -- Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK Using The Bat! v3.98.4 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TheBat! Version 4
Hello Jeff, In an email on or about 20-11-2007 you wrote the following words of wisdom: I am continuing my struggle to find a combined Calendar/PIM/Email client and am currently trying Barca 2. I have been using Barca for nearly two years and the only thing I miss is the ability to make phone calls from the contact list. Highly recommended. -- Best regards, Mogens Current version is 3.99.27.2 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4?
Hello Benedict, On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 02:35:28 + GMT (15/12/2006, 09:35 +0700 GMT), Benedict Allen wrote: C2 Does anyone know when Ritlabs plans to release version 4? BA One day I expect. Are you sure? I think it will be the other day. -- Cheers, Thomas. Rentner versaeumt seine Beerdigung. * http://thomas.fernandez.hat-gar-keine-homepage.de/ Message reply created with The Bat! 3.95.3 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.95.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Version 4?
Does anyone know when Ritlabs plans to release version 4? -- Code 2 :canadaflag: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The Bat! version 2.12.00 on Windows XP Service Pack 2 Majorcan shop entrance: Here speeching American. Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Version 4?
Howdy Code, Friday, December 15, 2006, 2:17:43 AM, Code wrotened: C2 Does anyone know when Ritlabs plans to release version 4? One day I expect. -- Have Fun, Ben Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] crashing The Bat! v3.86.10 beta falling out of mid air with Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 I've always wanted to do this in front of you. C. Kent Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
