Re: Charset problem with Plain Text (Windows) editor

[Dwight Corrin]

On Friday, February 7, 2014, 2:29:31 AM, Stephane Bouvard wrote:

> As i've paid for version 6, i would like to be able to use it.  I
> expect that ritlabs will fix bugs of version 6 at no cost, as
> required by european laws (legal warranty, the product i buy must
> work as advertised, if not it must be fixed), thus if it's a general
> bug, i report it to be fixed.  I do not talk about a small bug but a
> problem with a major feature : be able to send correctly a mail in french.

if  you  paid  for version 6, you will be good to load 6.2.12. If you've paid
for version 5, then your version 5 license is good only to 6.0.99.

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Re: Charset problem with Plain Text (Windows) editor

[Stephane Bouvard]

Hi,

Le vendredi 7 février 2014 à 04:51:50, vous écriviez :

> There  is  not much to be gained yet in version6, however the latest version
> 6.2.12(32bit)  does  work  OK.   If  you do not want to pay for an upgrade I
> suggest  you  revert  to  version  5.8.10  which was the last stable version
> before  version6.   Version6 in  its  early versions had a number of
> bugs.

As i've paid for version 6, i would like to be able to use it.  I expect that 
ritlabs will fix bugs of version 6 at no cost, as required by european laws 
(legal warranty, the product i buy must work as advertised, if not it must be 
fixed), thus if it's a general bug, i report it to be fixed.  I do not talk 
about a small bug but a problem with a major feature : be able to send 
correctly a mail in french.



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Re: Charset problem with Plain Text (Windows) editor

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Stephane,

Thursday, February 6, 2014, 9:46:58 PM, among other things, you wrote:

SB> I've paid for up to 6.0.99, i would like first that the software work 
SB> before paying for an upgrade with new features...

There  is  not much to be gained yet in version6, however the latest version
6.2.12(32bit)  does  work  OK.   If  you do not want to pay for an upgrade I
suggest  you  revert  to  version  5.8.10  which was the last stable version
before  version6.   Version6 in  its  early versions had a number of
bugs.

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Re: Charset problem with Plain Text (Windows) editor

[Stephane Bouvard]

Hi,

Le jeudi 6 f�vrier 2014 � 13:03:35, vous �criviez :

> Is charset=iso-8859-15 your default setting, at Account Properties |
> New Message? 

Latin 9 is my default charset for new messages.

> As a workaround, does all go as expected if you set UTF-8 
> there instead?

It's worse : if i choose UTF-8 for new messages, the header of a new message is 
now charset=utf-8 but the content of the message is always iso-8859

In fact, the Plain Text (Windows) editor only output iso-8859, even when 
configured for utf-8 (and thus utf-8 defined through the header of the mail).

Look this mail, i've requested UTF-8 (trough the status bar below of the 
editor) and here's a french accentuated char : � (eacute), the header of the 
mail will probably be set to UTF-8, and the special char remain iso-8859

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Re: Charset problem with Plain Text (Windows) editor

[Stephane Bouvard]

Hi,

I've paid for up to 6.0.99, i would like first that the software work 
before paying for an upgrade with new features...



Le 06-02-14 11:29, Roger Phillips a écrit :


Try updating to the latest version 6.2.8, available on the Ritlabs webpage.


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Re: Charset problem with Plain Text (Windows) editor

[MFPA]

Hi


On Thursday 6 February 2014 at 8:07:47 AM, in
, Stephane Bouvard wrote:



> If i create a new message, the new message is created
> with charset=iso-8859-15 , no problem.

Is charset=iso-8859-15 your default setting, at Account Properties |
New Message? As a workaround, does all go as expected if you set UTF-8 
there instead?


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Re: Charset problem with Plain Text (Windows) editor

[Roger Phillips]

Hello Stephane,

Thursday, February 6, 2014, 10:07:47 AM, among other things, you wrote:

SB> Hi,

SB> Since version 6 of TheBat (i have now 6.0.10) i have a charset problem...

SB> If i create a new message, the new message is created with 
charset=iso-8859-15 , no problem.

SB> If i reply to a mail in charset=iso-8859-15 , no problem

SB> But, if i reply to a mail composed with UTF8, TheBat create the reply
SB> in UTF8 (header with charset=utf-8), but the mail is in fact using
SB> charset iso-8859-15, resulting in unreadable chars (as the mail reader
SB> try to read UTF-8 and not iso-8859-15).

SB> This problem only occur if i use Plain Text (Windows) text editor, if i
SB> use Plain Text (MicroEd), the mail is correctly using UTF-8 for special 
chars.


SB> Is it a known bug ?  Did RitLabs plan to fix this bug in 6.0 series ?

SB> Thanks in advance.

Try updating to the latest version 6.2.8, available on the Ritlabs webpage.


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Charset problem with Plain Text (Windows) editor

[Stephane Bouvard]

Hi,

Since version 6 of TheBat (i have now 6.0.10) i have a charset problem...

If i create a new message, the new message is created with charset=iso-8859-15 
, no problem.

If i reply to a mail in charset=iso-8859-15 , no problem

But, if i reply to a mail composed with UTF8, TheBat create the reply in UTF8 
(header with charset=utf-8), but the mail is in fact using charset iso-8859-15, 
resulting in unreadable chars (as the mail reader try to read UTF-8 and not 
iso-8859-15).

This problem only occur if i use Plain Text (Windows) text editor, if i use 
Plain Text (MicroEd), the mail is correctly using UTF-8 for special chars.


Is it a known bug ?  Did RitLabs plan to fix this bug in 6.0 series ?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: charset problem

[Ludovic LE MOAL]

Hi,

On Tuesday, September 13, 2005 at 1:57:02 PM, Ludovic LE MOAL wrote:

> It works just fine when I create a new message. When I save it as a
> draft and when I open it again, the character set is no more UTF-8 or
> ISO-8859-1 but Windows-1252.

It seems to be a known bug : https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=4859
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Re: charset problem

[Roelof Otten]

Hallo Ludovic,

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:57:02 +0200GMT (13-9-2005, 13:57 +0200, where I
live), you wrote:

LLM> What can I do to preserve the right charset ?

You can't. TB doesn't remember that. Only thing you can do is to
select the charset manually when editing.

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charset problem

[Ludovic LE MOAL]

Good day All,

I have a problem of character set in templates. I want to write to
someone in UTF-8 or in ISO-8859-1.

In my template, I put this :

%CHARSET="UTF-8"

or

%CHARSET="ISO-8859-1"

It works just fine when I create a new message. When I save it as a
draft and when I open it again, the character set is no more UTF-8 or
ISO-8859-1 but Windows-1252. Or even US-ASCII when there no accent in
the message but that's not problem for me.

What can I do to preserve the right charset ?

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Re: Help! Charset problem

[Ming-Li]

Hi Dean,


>>>   I thought I've solved the problem of not being able to send
>>> Chinese messages with the proper charset setting. [...] It turned
>>> out, as I investigate further, that TB never did override my
>>> charset setting with "big5".

ML>> Never mind, I fixed it.

> Mind sharing how you fixed it?

Sure. I didn't for I thought nobody would be interested since none
of you is using a coding system that TB doesn't support.

I found the %CHARSET macro would override the default character set
only when the character set you're trying to use is supported by TB.
In other words, one can't put just anything there.

What I did is I created a new coding via [Options] [XLAT Tables],
named it "big5", assigned to it the proper font script, and didn't
bother with the two translation tables. By this way, it looks like
"big5" is a supported character set, though not really (it's perhaps
more accurate to say TB "tolerates" it).

Anyhow, now big5 is registered and the %CHARSET macro works. I can
now designate the default character set to be used in the address
book, too.

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Re[2]: Help! Charset problem

[Dean M]

Hello Ming-Li,

July 10, 2000, 2:25:10 PM, you wrote:

ML> Hi All,

>>   I thought I've solved the problem of not being able to send
>> Chinese messages with the proper charset setting. [...] It turned
>> out, as I investigate further, that TB never did override my
>> charset setting with "big5".

ML> Never mind, I fixed it.


Mind sharing how you fixed it?

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Re: Help! Charset problem

[Ming-Li]

Hi All,

>   I thought I've solved the problem of not being able to send
> Chinese messages with the proper charset setting. [...] It turned
> out, as I investigate further, that TB never did override my
> charset setting with "big5".

Never mind, I fixed it.

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Help! Charset problem

[Ming-Li]

Hello All,

  I thought I've solved the problem of not being able to send
Chinese messages with the proper charset setting. The solution I've
been using is to create a template for my Chinese mail which include
the following line:

%CHARSET="big5"

The macro description suggests this would override character set. I
was too confident to check my outgoing mail, until some people began
to complain receiving unreadable Chinese mail. At first I thought
it's because I didn't put them in my "Chinese mail" group in the
address book. It turned out, as I investigate further, that TB never
did override my charset setting with "big5".

What am I doing wrong?

I've tried

%CHARSET=""%CHARSET="big5"

as well, to no avail.

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