Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hello Avi everyone else, on 16-Jun-2005 at 22:54 you ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If you want to use both the new and the old account, you have to copy the existing filters to the new account. If you filter messages from the new account to the folders of the old account, you have to be careful with the identity you're using (in other words, the FROM: address). And, indeed, I want to keep the same filters, but don't want two folders for say, The Bat mail. There should be only one TBUDL folder with mail from both the old and new accounts that is TBUDL mail going into one and the same folder during the period of overlapping accounts. The you should filter into the folders of your other (old) account, and... However, MFPA suggests that if I filter mail coming in to the new account into the old folders, replies to mail that comes in through the new account server will appear to come from the old account. ...you can fix the FROM address another way. My suggestion would be that you create an addressbook template (either for single addresses or for an entire address book group) where you set the account and FROM address to use for outgoing messages in a template, using a macro combination of... %ACCOUNT=[EMAIL PROTECTED]%- %FROM=%- %FROM=Avi [EMAIL PROTECTED]%- The first one sets the account to use, the second clears the old FROM field, and the thing one sets the new FROM field. The trailing %- behind the macros only make sure that no extra empty lines are inserted. One thing remains, you need to transfer the filters from your old account to the new one. Depending on how many filters you have, you can either Copy and Paste them one by one from the sorting office of the old account to the sorting office of the new account - or, if you have many many filters, you Copy them from the old account (one by one) and Paste them into a single textfile (in Notepad or somewhere), then you Copy the entire textfile and Paste it into the sorting office of the new account (in one go). I hope my memory serves me right with the filter copying, someone please correct me if I'm wrong. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) The development of Hydro-electric power in the desert of North America awaits only the introduction of water. -- Statement in Nuclear News Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hello Avi, 16-Jun-2005 23:29, you wrote: Are there any distinct advantages, for my purposes, in having the latest and greatest version of The Bat? v2 has virtual folders, common folders, better built-in PGP support, and a new macro syntax, and better IMAP support (though IMAP is still not working smoothly for everyone) v3 has common filters, a new filtering system, and better IMAP support (though IMAP is still not working smoothly for everyone), and since v3.5, it has a customisable GUI, and better IMAP support (though IMAP is still not working smoothly for everyone) If you don't need anything of the above in the near future, you don't need to update. -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Give me, Mother, luck at my birth, then throw me if you will on the rubbish heap. (Bulgarian Proverb) Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hi On Thursday 16 June 2005 at 10:08:18 PM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: Avi is using v1.62r, that version has neither common filters nor virtual folders. :-} Oops -- Best regards, MFPA Don't anthropomorphize computers - they hate it Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
multiple e-mail account with same name
Hi. I would appreciate it if someone could help me to figure out how to transition my e-mail setup from an ISP to a private domain. Specifically, if I have an e-mail account in The Bat for Achdut for mail obtained from RCN, is it possible to set up a private domain with the same mailbox name, achdut, and have The Bat retrieve mail from the private domain and filter it into the same folders into which mail addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] is filtered? When I attempt to set up a new account the prompt tells me that any name I use must be different from one that is already being used. Since achdut is already being used (for the RCN server), am I now prevented from using achdut to access mail located at [EMAIL PROTECTED]? -- Avi Avram Sacks using The Bat ver. 1.62r. OS: MS XP professional Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hello achdut. --On 16 June 2005 02:15 -0500 you wrote about multiple e-mail account with same name: Hi. I would appreciate it if someone could help me to figure out how to transition my e-mail setup from an ISP to a private domain. When I attempt to set up a new account the prompt tells me that any name I use must be different from one that is already being used. Can't you just edit your existing POP/SMTP server details and change them to your new private domain servers details. That way your existing account complete with existing folders will still be used only pointing to your new domain. You may still have to edit the odd filter or two so that they don't filter on your old address. -- Tony. M pgpVOMNbzhNiq.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hello achdut everyone else, on 16-Jun-2005 at 09:15 you (achdut) wrote: When I attempt to set up a new account the prompt tells me that any name I use must be different from one that is already being used. Thats just a name. You could rename your old account to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and set up a new account named [EMAIL PROTECTED]. You can do that in the Account Properties (from the Account menu). Do you want to use BOTH accounts? If not, you can do as Tony said and simply change the server address for POP and SMTP to your new one. If you want to use both the new and the old account, you have to copy the existing filters to the new account. If you filter messages from the new account to the folders of the old account, you have to be careful with the identity you're using (in other words, the FROM: address). -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) Everybody is talking about the weather but nobody does anything about it. -- Mark Twain Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Re[2]: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hello achdut. --On 16 June 2005 03:29 -0500 you wrote about Re[2]: multiple e-mail account with same name: Your suggestion won't work because there will be an overlap period of a month or two where both addresses will be live. Ah, you omitted that little detail. Not too sure how your account is set up anyway, I replied to your message and it ended up being addressed to myself at tbudl? -- Tony. M pgpciDezzqDUX.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hi Tony, Thursday, June 16, 2005, 2:37:42 AM, you wrote in response to my query about setting up multiple e-mail accounts with the same name: TB Can't you just edit your existing POP/SMTP server details and change them TB to your new private domain servers details. TB That way your existing account complete with existing folders will still be TB used only pointing to your new domain. You may still have to edit the odd TB filter or two so that they don't filter on your old address. Your suggestion won't work because there will be an overlap period of a month or two where both addresses will be live. And, for various e-mail lists, including this one, I may decide to continue the achdut user name in a gmail account. -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago, IL using The Bat ver. 1.62r on MS XP Professional Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
On Thursday, 16 June 2005, achdut wrote: a When I attempt to set up a new account the prompt tells me that a any name I use must be different from one that is already being a used. Since achdut is already being used (for the RCN server), am a I now prevented from using achdut to access mail located at a [EMAIL PROTECTED]? The account name is not the same as the email username. Just put a different name in that first dialog, then in the next dialog you enter your name and your email address, which will be [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hallo Tony, On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 09:34:52 +0100GMT (16-6-2005, 10:34 +0200, where I live), you wrote: TB Not too sure how your account is set up anyway, I replied to your message TB and it ended up being addressed to myself at tbudl? Apparently a problem on your side, over here the Reply-To: header of Avi's message is set to the list address only and I get achdut in the To: header of my reply -- Groetjes, Roelof Cannot open file E:\Batmail\t-shirt.txt Ouch, I changed to OTFE and now my cookie file got encrypted and renamed. :-( The Bat! 3.5.26 Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 2 1 pop3 accounts, server on LAN pgpFbTPZl6i4g.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hi On Thursday 16 June 2005 at 8:53:58 AM, in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED], Alexander S. Kunz wrote: If you want to use both the new and the old account, you have to copy the existing filters to the new account. Or perhaps use common filters? If you filter messages from the new account to the folders of the old account, you have to be careful with the identity you're using (in other words, the FROM: address). How about:- 1. set up new account with filers and folders that mirror those in the existing account. 2. create a set of virtual folders that mirrors the folder system in the accounts. That is, virtual folder 1 watches folder 1 in each of the two accounts. 3. read the incoming messages using the virtual folders, replies are automatically from the correct identity. -- Best regards, MFPA You're only young once; you can be immature forever Using The Bat! v3.0.1.33 on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Thanks, everyone for your advice about setting up multiple accounts with the same name. I now understand I can just use a name like [EMAIL PROTECTED] as a user name, and not just achdut. Elementary to those who understand the ins and outs of the software--but it wasn't to me. However, others have raised some questions about the filtering. Alexander wrote: If you want to use both the new and the old account, you have to copy the existing filters to the new account. If you filter messages from the new account to the folders of the old account, you have to be careful with the identity you're using (in other words, the FROM: address). And, indeed, I want to keep the same filters, but don't want two folders for say, The Bat mail. There should be only one TBUDL folder with mail from both the old and new accounts that is TBUDL mail going into one and the same folder during the period of overlapping accounts. However, MFPA suggests that if I filter mail coming in to the new account into the old folders, replies to mail that comes in through the new account server will appear to come from the old account. MFPA says, 1. set up new account with filers and folders that mirror those in the existing account. 2. create a set of virtual folders that mirrors the folder system in the accounts. That is, virtual folder 1 watches folder 1 in each of the two accounts. 3. read the incoming messages using the virtual folders, replies are automatically from the correct identity. Unfortunately, I don't understand steps two and three. How does one set up a virtual folder and how will it look on the folder tree? -- Avi Avram Sacks using The Bat ver. 1.62r on XP professional (but not when I'm writing from the office, where Lotus Notes reign) Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hello MFPA everyone else, on 16-Jun-2005 at 21:46 you (MFPA) wrote: If you want to use both the new and the old account, you have to copy the existing filters to the new account. Or perhaps use common filters? Avi is using v1.62r, that version has neither common filters nor virtual folders. :-} -- Best regards, Alexander (http://www.neurowerx.de - ICQ 238153981) If you should say, 'It is enough, I have reached perfection,' all is lost. For it is the function of perfection to make one know one's imperfection. -- St. Augustine Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hi, everyone. On 16-Jun-2005 at 21:46 MFPA wrote: If you want to use both the new and the old account, you have to copy the existing filters to the new account. Or perhaps use common filters? Alexander S. Kunz [EMAIL PROTECTED] then wrote: Avi is using v1.62r, that version has neither common filters nor virtual folders. :-} That is true. Does this make me a Luddite? ;-) So, it seems I could either set up duplicate folders during the period both accounts are active, and once I terminate the old account, I could just move all the mail in the folders (of which there are about 25-30) in the old account to the identical folders in the new accounts, or, upgrade and set up virtual folders. Are there any distinct advantages, for my purposes, in having the latest and greatest version of The Bat? -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago, IL using The Bat ver. 1.62r on Windows XP Professional Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: multiple e-mail account with same name
Hello sacksa! On Thursday, June 16, 2005, 4:29 PM, you wrote: ... it seems I could either set up duplicate folders during the period both accounts are active, and once I terminate the old account, I could just move all the mail in the folders (of which there are about 25-30) in the old account to the identical folders in the new accounts ... This is what I did, running v. 1.62 in a situation similar to yours. Are there any distinct advantages, for my purposes, in having the latest and greatest version of The Bat? Speaking with complete frankness, I say there are none. I upgraded to v. 2.6 and further within 2.xx to get Smiley and Roguemoticon capability. I upgraded to 3.0 and further to get a simpler, more understandable way to make filters. From 3.0.1.33 on, I have been moving up out of feelings of: 1) Loyalty to a company and e-mail program that have truly done well by me. 2) Curiosity about what will come next. 3) The sense of adventure and community that life as a beta tester for my favorite e-mail program, The Bat!, is giving me. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.5.27 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current version is 3.5.25 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
