Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi Gerard, Thursday, October 10, 2002, 12:08:22 AM, you wrote: [SNIP] Why would you want that garbage at the end of incoming or outgoing mail anyway. In most cases the receiver (either you or those to whom you send an e-mail to) don't really care what the sender's system did. I don't, but it would tell me if it was working! I don't trust such stuff anyway. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:09:12 +0545 Sudip Pokhrel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Doug, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002 05:51 your local time, (10:36 my local time), you [DW] wrote: DW Which of those is the AVG plugin though? Found the Nod32 one, DW which I also need. You can get AVG plug-in directly from Grisoft: http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat9us.exe Thanks. I thought I'd searched their site! Doug -- Doug's Archaeology Site http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 8:11:24 AM RE: what are bat*.tmp files? Greetings Doug, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 3:01:25 AM, you wrote: You can get AVG plug-in directly from Grisoft: http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat9us.exe DW Thanks. I thought I'd searched their site! It's not easy to find. You have to scroll down through the Updates listing or simply go here: http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm?session=222c74fe60752605c3145686492d8df6 Hope this helps. - -- Regards, D Gerard Raftery Sr. A paperless office has about as much chance as a paperless bathroom. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaQdqvrDU+56b7pcEQJfBQCgmkW+sYl+D+b8AkuAMzLhtBlabvIAoPfs kIKACZdTuwvCqw7q/7/qEcTo =0+JX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:14:59 PM, you wrote: DW It's not easy to find. You have to scroll down through the Updates listing or simply go here: http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm?session=222c74fe60752605c3145686492d8df6 Ok, it's installed, thanks very much for the help. What bits of AVG itself do I have to keep running to make it operational? I don't think I want to run AVG's Resident Shield alongside Trend's Real-Time monitor, for instance. But I do want it to update. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 5:54:36 PM RE: what are bat*.tmp files? Greetings Doug, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:47:10 PM, you wrote: DW Hi, DW Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 1:14:59 PM, you wrote: DW It's not easy to find. You have to scroll down through the Updates listing or simply go here: http://www.grisoft.com/html/us_avgbat.htm?session=222c74fe60752605c3145686492d8df6 DW Ok, it's installed, thanks very much for the help. What bits of AVG itself do I have to keep running DW to make it operational? I don't think I want to run AVG's Resident DW Shield alongside Trend's Real-Time monitor, for instance. But I do DW want it to update. DW Doug Just uncheck the Resident Shield boxes (and then click on Save Parameters as New Default) and leave the control center (icon on your taskbar) running. You need not have the Resident Shield operational for the plugin to do it's job. I know many that have two or three AV's installed with the primary AV performing resident scan operation and the other two to either utilize a plugin feature or have a back up AV program to check to see if the primary missed something. - -- Regards, D Gerard Raftery Sr. ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaSnWWGmTEg4iItaEQKzXQCfaCk7ToQs1+GkIGqlRxsSQd0o0wUAn2/M fJuAXypLnNY+sXHLH6emeCqk =V2KG -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi Gerard, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 11:02:15 PM, you wrote: Just uncheck the Resident Shield boxes (and then click on Save Parameters as New Default) and leave the control center (icon on your taskbar) running. You need not have the Resident Shield operational for the plugin to do it's job. I know many that have two or three AV's installed with the primary AV performing resident scan operation and the other two to either utilize a plugin feature or have a back up AV program to check to see if the primary missed something. That makes sense and is probably what I shall do. Do I gather it doesn't actually mark either outgoing or incoming email? Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi Sudip, Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 6:24:12 AM, you wrote: Hi Doug, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002 05:51 your local time, (10:36 my local time), you [DW] wrote: DW Which of those is the AVG plugin though? Found the Nod32 one, DW which I also need. You can get AVG plug-in directly from Grisoft: http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat9us.exe Thanks, it is up and I hope running now! Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:38:53 PM RE: what are bat*.tmp files? Greetings Avram, On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 1:48:33 PM, you wrote: Acc Thanks, again. Your explanation this time, was much more clear. Given my Acc setup, is there any reason (in terms of catching viruses from incoming messages) Acc why it would be advantageous for me to move to AV software, such as AVG, or some Acc of the others mentioned on this list that have plug-ins for The Bat? Any Acc reason to just let well enough alone? Any AV software that is worth it's salt SHOULD, with resident scanner abilities ON, alert when you try and open an e-mail attachment that is infected. As reported within this thread, the plus side of having an e-mail plugin is to quarantine and bring the exact message to your attention. I have seen Norton AV, resident shield only, alert and disappear leaving one to weed through AV logs only to find that the infected file is specified but not the e-mail message that carried the payload. In most cases, as a network engineer of some 28+ years, I want the file AND the message flagged so I can gather all pertinent information as to the sender, ISP, what SMTP server allowed the file to pass and as much routing info as can be gleamed from the RFC-822 header info. Anyway ... I ramble. In the end to each their own. Whatever YOU feel secure doing is what plan of action you need follow. Opinions are like buttholes. Everybody has one BUT, covering your own is your most critical mission. - -- Regards, D Gerard Raftery Sr. If the automobile had followed the same development cycle as the computer, a Rolls-Royce today would cost $100, get a million miles to the gallon, and explode once a year, killing everyone inside. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaSybmGmTEg4iItaEQJ4RACfSYQLo9Cg37Z2UCrCVo7NiYzcWqgAn1z2 U9+Va4orSb91t+JeF6IXuHEN =7BzW -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, October 09, 2002 6:53:41 PM RE: what are bat*.tmp files? Greetings Doug, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 6:30:52 PM, you wrote: DW Do I gather it doesn't actually mark either outgoing or incoming DW email? Mark as how? With the This message has been certified virus free by blah, blah, blah etc.? One the freeware AVG does not do this as only the Pro version does and two, The_Bat! plugin supports this feature in neither the freeware nor Pro versions. Why would you want that garbage at the end of incoming or outgoing mail anyway. In most cases the receiver (either you or those to whom you send an e-mail to) don't really care what the sender's system did. - -- Regards, D Gerard Raftery Sr. If at first you don't succeed, call it version 1.0. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Business Security 6.0 iQA/AwUBPaS0tmGmTEg4iItaEQJtogCg4Q5BlzU/NkVprnBwj+CRd/j7MvIAn1Ac aSI6eHtO7s/hpmy7dNzu4pFo =FVvK -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi, Gerard! Wednesday, October 9, 2002, 6:08:22 PM, you wrote: DGRS Mark as how? With the This message has been certified virus free by DGRS blah, blah, blah etc.? One the freeware AVG does not do this as only DGRS Why would you want that garbage at the end of incoming or outgoing DGRS mail anyway. In most cases the receiver (either you or those to whom DGRS you send an e-mail to) don't really care what the sender's system did. Would make an excellent trojan horse too. Well, his message said it was checked for viruses!!!. IMO, it's just more useless stuff to impress the easily impressed. -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, October 08, 2002, achdut wrote... Hi, everyone. Can someone explain to me what the signficance, if any, is of files that appear in the Local Settings\Temp subdirectory that are named bat*.tmp, where the * represents any two- to four-character alphanumeric combination? These files appear in the temp subdirectory only on occasion after I have downloaded e-mail. There must be nothing in these files, since the size is 0kb. Additonally, they only seem to appear when I have received an error message that reads something like: ezTrustAntivirus real-time protection has found that C:\DOCUME~1\USER\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat4D2.tmp was infected with HTML.MimeExploit virus and has restored the file. Curiously, when I run a search for the infected file, it does not appear anywhere on the hard drive. This has happened three times in the past several days. Can I safely delete all of those .tmp files? The temp files are there so that TB can write the file locally before trying to insert into the message base. A safety precaution if you will, because I'm sure it won't do the message base any good if you download half completed mails into it ;) As for the reason the files are there, and not deleted, you gave yourself the reason. Your virus scanner reads all data being written to the drive, and as it sees the virus signature, it stops the write, this returns an error to TB! as your virus scanner returns a simple file lock message (a cheating way to stop a program from writing data), so TB! cannot write to the file, so assumes it cannot destroy it either. This would mean there is something wrong with it, so it skips onto the the next message. Yes it is safe to delete them, you may want to make sure TB! is closed when you do it, as you probably don't want to catch it half-way through writing a temp file ;) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393 B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73 iQA/AwUBPaHSYCuD6BT4/R9zEQJtRACg6EAw093hWmX77cwOkvst3Fh03EcAnRNF Pi3RbcjfXsM9sQBJcs7EkrP9 =bMqh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi, Jonathan, and anyone else listening in. I originally asked: Can someone explain to me what the significance, if any, is of files that appear in the Local Settings\Temp subdirectory that are named bat*.tmp, where the * represents any two- to four-character alphanumeric combination? These files appear in the temp subdirectory only on occasion after I have downloaded e-mail. There must be nothing in these files, since the size is 0kb. Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 10/07/2002 replied: The temp files are there so that TB can write the file locally before trying to insert into the message base. As for the reason the files are there, and not deleted, you gave yourself the reason. Your virus scanner reads all data being written to the drive, and as it sees the virus signature, it stops the write, this returns an error to TB! as your virus scanner returns a simple file lock message (a cheating way to stop a program from writing data), so TB! cannot write to the file, so assumes it cannot destroy it either. This would mean there is something wrong with it, so it skips onto the next message. If I understand you correctly, under normal circumstances, where no virus is present, the temp file gets erased once it is scanned and found clean so that the message body can be inserted into the database. Correct? If so, this raises several questions: 1. why would there be more empty bat*.tmp files than error messages warning of a virus. For example, I might have 200 messages to download, receive one error message during the download warning of the presence of the MimeExploit virus [which shouldn't affect me anyway since I am running IE 6.0] but will still find perhaps a dozen or two dozen empty bat*.tmp files. Shouldn't there be a one-for-one correspondence between the number of virus warnings I get and the number of empty bat*.tmp files sitting in the Temp directory? 2. Because I use eZTrust antivirus, I don't have a plug-in for The Bat. I thought plug-ins were what allowed incoming messages to be scanned. However, it seems that I am getting those messages scanned anyway, correct?So, what does a plug-in do that my setup doesn't already accomplish? Thanks for your help, -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago, IL [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] using The Bat ver. 1.61 on Windows XP home Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, October 08, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... The temp files are there so that TB can write the file locally before trying to insert into the message base. As for the reason the files are there, and not deleted, you gave yourself the reason. Your virus scanner reads all data being written to the drive, and as it sees the virus signature, it stops the write, this returns an error to TB! as your virus scanner returns a simple file lock message (a cheating way to stop a program from writing data), so TB! cannot write to the file, so assumes it cannot destroy it either. This would mean there is something wrong with it, so it skips onto the next message. If I understand you correctly, under normal circumstances, where no virus is present, the temp file gets erased once it is scanned and found clean so that the message body can be inserted into the database. Correct? Yes under normal circumstances, and in a perfect environment. Unfortunately Windows is faaar from perfect ;) If so, this raises several questions: 1. why would there be more empty bat*.tmp files than error messages warning of a virus. [...] Shouldn't there be a one-for-one correspondence between the number of virus warnings I get and the number of empty bat*.tmp files sitting in the Temp directory? Not always, but in theory yes. The problem arises when your virus scanner monitors all file system activity, both read and write to the disk. The order of things works like so: - Mail Comes in - TB Creates Temporary File - Virus scanner checks temporary file - TB Writes data to temporary File - Virus scanner reads data - TB moves temporary data out of temporary file into message base - Virus scanner reads data movement between two - TB tries to delete temporary file - Virus scanner reads delete attempt - TB *might* get a file lock if virus scanner is still scanning, at which point TB leaves the file. It is the last two events that cause the temp files to stay in most cases. If the virus scanner has hold of the temporary file for just a little too long, then the file cannot be deleted. Did I make it a little clearer this time? At least that is the way I'm seeing things working anyway. I write software, and we have a hell of a time with temporary files and virus scanners because of the above order of things. 2. Because I use eZTrust antivirus, I don't have a plug-in for The Bat. I thought plug-ins were what allowed incoming messages to be scanned. However, it seems that I am getting those messages scanned anyway, correct? So, what does a plug-in do that my setup doesn't already accomplish? Yes and no. Yes your mail is being scanned, but that is because it is being written to a temporary file first, and your virus scanner is set to scan for disk read/writes. If you were to do it via a plugin, the method of scanning would be while the message is being put into the stream inside TB and would result in no disk writing until the scan is complete. If a virus is found, then it follows the settings in your plugin. - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPaMVSyuD6BT4/R9zEQK/3ACfZXDWEHFtYzceWbHMaXf0vqZQITUAnRiy nO1UKMeecQLm2Xj6K6GR5fIw =gEpX -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
I asked, So, what does a plug-in do that my setup doesn't already accomplish? To which Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied: Yes your mail is being scanned, but that is because it is being written to a temporary file first, and your virus scanner is set to scan for disk read/writes. If you were to do it via a plugin, the method of scanning would be while the message is being put into the stream inside TB and would result in no disk writing until the scan is complete. If a virus is found, then it follows the settings in your plugin. Thanks, again. Your explanation this time, was much more clear. Given my setup, is there any reason (in terms of catching viruses from incoming messages) why it would be advantageous for me to move to AV software, such as AVG, or some of the others mentioned on this list that have plug-ins for The Bat? Any reason to just let well enough alone? [There might be other reasons for me to switch, e.g., I can't get eZTrust to automatically download using Windows scheduler--but that is an issue for another list] -- Avi Avram Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] using The Bat ver. 1.61 on Windows XP home Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
ON Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 8:01:11 PM, you wrote: JA On Tuesday, October 08, 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote... JA It really depends. Using a virus plugin will allow you to quarantine JA the mail withing TB! and actually look at the mail, but not JA execute/open any attachments. Hi Jonathan, The Norton quarantine function offers the same functionality. The difference is that you can only see the text of the email in Norton. -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I am an Insomniac, agnostic, Egotist: I lie awake nights wondering whether I believe that I am as great as I think I am. Using The Bat! v1.61 on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 3 Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi, again. It seems like each answer prompts another question. This time, Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Using a virus plugin will allow you to quarantine the mail withing TB! and actually look at the mail, but not execute/open any attachments. This is an advantage if you are after the actual email itself, and want to alert the real sender of infection (note that Klez and others spoof from headers, and if you set the virus scanner to auto-alert the person, you'll probably get a few upset replies). I thought I was already able to look at the mail because whenever I get the warning from the AV program, it says ...real-time protection has found that [filename] was infected with HTML.MimeExploit virus and has *restored the file.* (emphasis added), AND, I am able to find an e-mail in my in-box that has all the earmarks of it having carried a virus (unexpected attachments from unknown senders). I open these e-mails to add the sender's ISP to my filter list if the ISP looks bogus, such as where it's a random alphanumeric combination followed by .com, or some cutsy nomenclature like just4u.com but I don't open the attachments, which almost all invariably have the .exe extension. (I really like it that The Bat does NOT automatically open attachments.) Aren't these e-mails the ones that my AV software found infected, particularly since it has told me that it has restored the file? If so, then there really is no advantage to using plug-ins. No? Of course, if you're not too worried about seeing the content of these 'infected' files, and trust your virus scanner to make a valued judgement about the email (knowing that it only matches signatures, and doesn't care about content), then you can just stick with using an external virus scanner. How is eZTrust-AV matching signatures? What signatures is it matching, and with what? I don't use an address book, although I do have filters in The Bat for trash. But why should the AV software care about what filters I am using? Also, if I what I said above about the file being restored is correct, then it seems to me that the AV software is letting me make the decision about whether to dump the message or not. Again, thanks for your patience is answering these questions. -- Avi Avram Sacks [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] using ver. 1.61 of The Bat on Windows XP home Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hello Avram, On Tue, 8 Oct 2002 12:48:33 -0500 GMT (09/10/02, 00:48 +0700 GMT), [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Acc Thanks, again. Your explanation this time, was much more clear. Acc Given my setup, is there any reason (in terms of catching viruses Acc from incoming messages) why it would be advantageous for me to Acc move to AV software, such as AVG, or some of the others mentioned Acc on this list that have plug-ins for The Bat? You won't have the nasty bat*.tmp files. ;-) Acc Any reason to just let well enough alone? Happiness with your current virus-scanner, maybe. BTW it might be interesting for your to know that I get a lot of bat*.tmp files as well. The reason is that I am on dial-up, and my connection breaks automtically after 20 minutes. If TB is in the process of downloading an email, these files (with 0 KB size) will remain in the Windows\Temp directory. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A day without fusion is like a day without sunshine. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, October 08, 2002, Avram Sacks wrote... Aren't these e-mails the ones that my AV software found infected, particularly since it has told me that it has restored the file? If so, then there really is no advantage to using plug-ins. No? I didn't realise your mail was still being delivered. This may be okay for the files it can fix, but for those it cannot, you'll find them relegated to the virus scanners quarantine, or even deleted completely. Of course, if you're not too worried about seeing the content of these 'infected' files, and trust your virus scanner to make a valued judgement about the email (knowing that it only matches signatures, and doesn't care about content), then you can just stick with using an external virus scanner. How is eZTrust-AV matching signatures? What signatures is it matching, and with what? When I say signatures I mean the signatures of a virus itself. I didn't mean the email has a nice footer at the bottom saying I'm a virus ;) Take for example eicar (test virus), the signature starts: X5O!P%@AP[4\PZX54(P^)7CC... (you can see the rest at http://www.eicar.org/anti_virus_test_file.htm) You can write that signature to a text file, save as a .com and then scan it, and it'll be detected. A virus scanner just keeps a dictionary of such signatures, and then does matches based on those signatures. Imagine a signature as a finger print for each virus. Each virus has it's own finger print. I don't use an address book, although I do have filters in The Bat for trash. But why should the AV software care about what filters I am using? It doesn't. I believe we may have mixed ideas (or I may have confused you) about the term 'signature' in this context. Also, if I what I said above about the file being restored is correct, then it seems to me that the AV software is letting me make the decision about whether to dump the message or not. It depends on the virus really. If the virus is not removable, or the file cannot be repaired, then your virus scanner will most likely move it to it's own quarantine, or even just trash it. The other option is that some virus scanners now come with in built pop/smtp connection scanning. It 'hijacks' the connections made on the related ports, reads the email, if it matches a 'fingerprint' of a virus, it re-writes the email, removing the attachment, and often putting a text file in it's place. This 'feature' is all dependant of the virus scanner you have installed. I know Norton 2002 does this, but not sure about yours. Again, thanks for your patience is answering these questions. You're welcome... :) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPaMp0iuD6BT4/R9zEQIS+ACfbSrg/BGa6x6xCSfgyVo2xQnASV0AoOfj G4mLJHEZDJ8H/1rcXdh2B9PM =gM+n -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi, Does the AVG plugin work with the free version of AVG? And where do you get it? (I have already bought Trend's Pc-Cillin, but would like to try the AVG plugin). Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, October 08, 2002, Doug Weller wrote... Does the AVG plugin work with the free version of AVG? And where do you get it? (I have already bought Trend's Pc-Cillin, but would like to try the AVG plugin). funny... I downloaded this this morning after scanning the archives... just being curious and all ;) ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/ - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt iQA/AwUBPaNRWSuD6BT4/R9zEQID7QCg2gO6iYLGZV99gPqc3iiB0mZIR58AoKFo JPQ25D/8ykptkZHY9AuA3Idt =z3iq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi Jonathan, Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 10:42:45 PM, you wrote: On Tuesday, October 08, 2002, Doug Weller wrote... Does the AVG plugin work with the free version of AVG? And where do you get it? (I have already bought Trend's Pc-Cillin, but would like to try the AVG plugin). funny... I downloaded this this morning after scanning the archives... just being curious and all ;) ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/ Thanks. Now to figure out how to install it, and where the Nod32 is for my other half's TheBat! Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, October 08, 2002, Doug Weller wrote... Does the AVG plugin work with the free version of AVG? And where do you get it? (I have already bought Trend's Pc-Cillin, but would like to try the AVG plugin). funny... I downloaded this this morning after scanning the archives... just being curious and all ;) ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/ Thanks. Now to figure out how to install it, and where the Nod32 is for my other half's TheBat! Installation is easy, drop it into your TB Folder, then go into Options - Virus Protection - Add then select the .bav file :) - -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Comment: Fingerprint: 676A 1701 665B E343 E393 B8D2 2B83 E814 F8FD 1F73 iQA/AwUBPaLc4CuD6BT4/R9zEQJ53wCgwuWiz5GDu/PSzL5KihmCwRVdYrUAoPPv uC2GfLIYCOplQQ9yyghcdQbH =EcIR -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi Thomas, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002 01:06 your local time, (Tuesday, 23:51 my local time), you [TF] wrote: TF The reason is that I am on dial-up, and my connection breaks TF automtically after 20 minutes. Why? -- be well, Sudip Pokhrel |/\ PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185| X Against HTML E-mail ! http://pgpkeys.mit.edu|/ \ ___ Age doesn't always bring wisdom. Sometimes age comes alone ___ TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hello Sudip, On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 08:26:30 +0545 GMT (09/10/02, 09:41 +0700 GMT), Sudip Pokhrel wrote: TF The reason is that I am on dial-up, and my connection breaks TF automtically after 20 minutes. SP Why? Because I do not have a direct telephone line. In order to dial out from my appartment, I have to dial 9, like in a hotel. The call will go via the appartment building's switchboard (yes, it is a classic PABX). Since they have only 24 lines for 80 or so appartments, the time for each call is limited to 20 minutes, the PABX will cut me off after that. So that not a few tenants block all the lines. I can apply for a direct phone line directly with one of the fixed-line providers, and it is not even expensive. However, I have been planning to move to a bigger appartment, and am still looking; that's why I don't have that direct line yet. f'up2:tbot. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Some people have a photographic memory but with the lens cover glued on. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.62/Beta1 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi Jonathan, Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 10:42:45 PM, you wrote: On Tuesday, October 08, 2002, Doug Weller wrote... Does the AVG plugin work with the free version of AVG? And where do you get it? (I have already bought Trend's Pc-Cillin, but would like to try the AVG plugin). funny... I downloaded this this morning after scanning the archives... just being curious and all ;) ftp://ftp.ritlabs.com/pub/the_bat/bav/ Which of those is the AVG plugin though? Found the Nod32 one, which I also need. Thanks. Doug -- Doug Weller Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated Submissions to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Doug's Archaeology Site: http://www.ramtops.demon.co.uk Co-owner UK-Schools mailing list: email me for details Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi, Thomas! Tuesday, October 8, 2002, 11:40:50 PM, you wrote: TF The reason is that I am on dial-up, and my connection breaks TF automtically after 20 minutes. TF PABX). Since they have only 24 lines for 80 or so appartments, the TF time for each call is limited to 20 minutes, the PABX will cut me off TF after that. So that not a few tenants block all the lines. Also, some ISPs limit the time. -- --Scott. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! 1.61 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 on an AMD Athlon XP 1900 (1.6G real, 1.9G effective) with 512MB. Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi Doug, On Wednesday, October 9, 2002 05:51 your local time, (10:36 my local time), you [DW] wrote: DW Which of those is the AVG plugin though? Found the Nod32 one, DW which I also need. You can get AVG plug-in directly from Grisoft: http://files.grisoft.cz/softw/thebat/avgbat9us.exe -- be well, Sudip Pokhrel |/\ PM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign PGP Key ID: 0xD93F5185| X Against HTML E-mail ! http://pgpkeys.mit.edu|/ \ ___ John Lennon -- ///o-o\\ ___ TB! v1.61 on XP Pro| P4-1.6Ghz 256MB RAM| Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
what are bat*.tmp files?
Hi, everyone. Can someone explain to me what the signficance, if any, is of files that appear in the Local Settings\Temp subdirectory that are named bat*.tmp, where the * represents any two- to four-character alphanumeric combination? These files appear in the temp subdirectory only on occasion after I have downloaded e-mail. There must be nothing in these files, since the size is 0kb. Additonally, they only seem to appear when I have received an error message that reads something like: ezTrustAntivirus real-time protection has found that C:\DOCUME~1\USER\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat4D2.tmp was infected with HTML.MimeExploit virus and has restored the file. Curiously, when I run a search for the infected file, it does not appear anywhere on the hard drive. This has happened three times in the past several days. Can I safely delete all of those .tmp files? -- Avi Avram Sacks Chicago, IL runnning The Bat ver. 1.61 on Windows XP home Current version is 1.61 | Using TBUDL information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
