Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)
Thomas Fernandez wrote: AM>> Yes, it means running the complete installation. TF> You should mentioned that TB needs to be closed first. Yes, thanks. :) -- -=allie_M=- | List Moderator PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com TB! v2.11.03 ยท WinXP Pro SP1 pgpOfU41FWUM7.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)
Hello Allie, On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 05:47:41 -0500 GMT (07/06/2004, 17:47 +0700 GMT), Allie Martin wrote: C>> I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did C>> not understand one thing: When you say "install over" do you mean C>> to run the complete installation exe or do you mean just to C>> exchange to old thebat.exe against the new thebat.exe ? AM> Yes, it means running the complete installation. You should mentioned that TB needs to be closed first. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. If you're born again, do you have two bellybuttons? Message reply created with The Bat! 2.11 under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using a Pentium P4 1.7 GHz, 256MB RAM Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
wide msag list cudos & re-installation question
Lifted from TBUDL archives. * From: Allie Martin * Subject: Re: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question * Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 05:50:34 -0700 AM> Are you having any problems with memory leaking while using AMON? Not that I've realized. JR> 3. A question: What does TB! do with an original AB when TB! is JR> first un-installed & then re-installed in the same directory. For JR> example, I see that TB! preserves all QTs but I can't find my JR> original AB. Have you looked in the installation directory? Where is you mail data kept, in the Mail directory in your installation directory, or are you using the newly supported location, i.e., C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\BatMail I used the default/original/old directory structure, i.e. MAIN for all data files. AM> You need to look in your data directory for files with the AM> .abd extension. If they're present, you could try importing AM> them. JR> Ditto for personal dictionary & can't figure out how to re-install JR> my common & virtual folders. AM> You'll likely have to recreate the virtual folders. AM> For the common folders, try a CTRL-Shift-Alt-L . Tried this which is part of the mystery. TB! restores only *some* of the common folders while ignoring others which leaves me with the question of how to get TB! to recognize them. The *.abd is devoid of all entries. So I don't get that either. AM> Interesting problems. I'm sorry that I can't more solidly help AM> since I've never actually uninstalled and then reinstalled AM> TB!. I always just swap executables. I did that as well but I've found that on actually releases, it's sometimes better to clean out the old(er) files & start clean. In *any* event, it seems to me that a TB! re-installation shouldn't be such a mystery at this stage of development. This has been a long running issue of sorts -- perhaps even as long as your request for a wide msg list view. If you or anyone has any further thoughts on my installation questions, I'd sure appreciate hearing from you. Thanks. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11.03/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)
Cyrille, [C] wrote: C> I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did C> not understand one thing: When you say "install over" do you mean C> to run the complete installation exe or do you mean just to C> exchange to old thebat.exe against the new thebat.exe ? Yes, it means running the complete installation. Simply run the install. It will automatically update the old one. Uninstalling and then reinstalling the newer version isn't necessary. In fact, on the TB! download page, below the table listing the files for download is: ,- / \ | * Note for users of previous versions of The Bat! - do not uninstall | your existing copy of The Bat! - just install the new version over. It | will save your breath and time. `- C> What other files does the installation exe update? C> Is there a reason not to just swap simply the executables, but to run C> the installation exe? For full releases you may miss updates to files like the help. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.02 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp0oy4j1e8W1.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)
Hello Cyrille, On 7 Jun 2004 at 08:24:50 +0200 GMT [08:24 CEST] you wrote: C> I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did not understand C> one thing: C> When you say "install over" do you mean to run the complete C> installation exe or do you mean just to exchange to old thebat.exe C> against the new thebat.exe ? C> What other files does the installation exe update? C> Is there a reason not to just swap simply the executables, but to run C> the installation exe? Without the installation you will not get the smilies and if there were any updates to the helpfile you will miss those as well. -- Cheers, Andre "He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it." Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Upgrade by swaping executables (was: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question)
Hello Allie, Saturday, June 5, 2004, 2:50:25 PM, you wrote: AM> I've never actually uninstalled and then reinstalled TB!. I always AM> just swap executables. I read also the other threads about installing v2.11., but I did not understand one thing: When you say "install over" do you mean to run the complete installation exe or do you mean just to exchange to old thebat.exe against the new thebat.exe ? What other files does the installation exe update? Is there a reason not to just swap simply the executables, but to run the installation exe? I want to migrate from 2.10.01 to 2.11.02. -- Best regards, Cyrille mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ TB! 2.10.01, Windows ME 4.90 Build 3000, Pentium 233Mhz with 95MB ] Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: wide msag list cudos & re-installation question
Jan Rifkinson, [JR] wrote: JR> 1. IMO, the full width message list view now available is JR> extremely useful so thanks for that, RitLabs. Same here. I asked for it soon after I started using TB! in late 1998. :) JR> 2. Today I noticed that NOD32/Bat! identifies an infected file JR> right on the subject line by inserting [virus Win32/BagleAB worm] JR> for example before the original Re:. OTOH, maybe I didn't notice JR> it before. In any case, it's very neat so thanks again. That's NOD32 working and not TB!. NOD32's Winsock scanner will add strings like that to the headers of infected messages. Are you having any problems with memory leaking while using AMON? How JR> 3. A question: What does TB! do with an original AB when TB! is JR> first un-installed & then re-installed in the same directory. For JR> example, I see that TB! preserves all QTs but I can't find my JR> original AB. Have you looked in the installation directory? Where is you mail data kept, in the Mail directory in your installation directory, or are you using the newly supported location, i.e., C:\Documents and Settings\\Application Data\BatMail You need to look in your data directory for files with the .abd extension. If they're present, you could try importing them. JR> Ditto for personal dictionary & can't figure out how to re-install JR> my common & virtual folders. You'll likely have to recreate the virtual folders. For the common folders, try a CTRL-Shift-Alt-L . Interesting problems. I'm sorry that I can't more solidly help since I've never actually uninstalled and then reinstalled TB!. I always just swap executables. -- -=[ Allie ]=- (List Moderator and fellow end-user) PGPKeys: http://key.ac-martin.com Running The Bat! v2.11.02 on WinXP Pro (SP1) pgp5FKGXNI36U.pgp Description: PGP signature Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
wide msag list cudos & re-installation question
Batfolk, I have 3 items : 1. IMO, the full width message list view now available is extremely useful so thanks for that, RitLabs. 2. Today I noticed that NOD32/Bat! identifies an infected file right on the subject line by inserting [virus Win32/BagleAB worm] for example before the original Re:. OTOH, maybe I didn't notice it before. In any case, it's very neat so thanks again. 3. A question: What does TB! do with an original AB when TB! is first un-installed & then re-installed in the same directory. For example, I see that TB! preserves all QTs but I can't find my original AB. Ditto for personal dictionary & can't figure out how to re-install my common & virtual folders. Can someone help me with this? Thank you. -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V2.11/W2K_SP3 ICQ 41116329 Current version is 2.11.02 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
