Re: selectively disabling atime updates?

2012-06-01 Thread Ignatios Souvatzis
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 08:37:06AM -0700, Paul Goyette wrote:
 On Thu, 31 May 2012, Matthias Kretschmer wrote:
 
 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 04:42:27PM +0200, Edgar Fuß wrote:
 How about using fss for it instead.
 1. fss is still marked experimental.
 oh, I have overlooked that.
 
 2. does fss work with WAPL at all?
 I don't know that.
 
 It seems to work for me!  All my FS are WAPBL-enabled, and I always
 use backup -X for snapshot.

rsync from a snapshot wouldn't work for me on sparc-64 with an
oldish kernel (5.99.something). I must setup one of the slower
machines for at least partial tests, because the main one is
the file server...

Paul, what's your architecture and version?

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Re: selectively disabling atime updates?

2012-06-01 Thread David Holland
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 04:56:26PM +0200, Matthias Kretschmer wrote:
How about using fss for it instead.
   1. fss is still marked experimental.
  oh, I have overlooked that.

I'm not sure that should stop you though. Or the marking should be
removed. People use it, it seems to work, it's been a while since
anyone's reported problems that I've noticed.

   2. does fss work with WAPL at all?
  I don't know that.

It's expected to at this point. (In -6 and -current, but IIRC not in -5.)

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Re: selectively disabling atime updates?

2012-06-01 Thread Edgar Fuß
 How about using fss for it instead.
Well, the point is not that I primarily don't want the atimes to reflect
the backup access. I primarily want to save the time spent on the update.
A find is aproximately twice as fast with noatime.


Re: selectively disabling atime updates?

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Goyette

On Fri, 1 Jun 2012, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote:


How about using fss for it instead.

1. fss is still marked experimental.

oh, I have overlooked that.


2. does fss work with WAPL at all?

I don't know that.


It seems to work for me!  All my FS are WAPBL-enabled, and I always
use backup -X for snapshot.


rsync from a snapshot wouldn't work for me on sparc-64 with an
oldish kernel (5.99.something). I must setup one of the slower
machines for at least partial tests, because the main one is
the file server...

Paul, what's your architecture and version?


I'm completely amd64 here, and currently running 6.99.5


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Re: Rump FS throughput

2012-06-01 Thread Thomas Klausner
On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 01:45:53PM -0400, Matthew Mondor wrote:
 Although it's useful to mount random media more safely than it would be
 using kernel-space, I noticed that using 64KB reads, the kernel cd9660
 will gladly read ~20MB/s from a DVD, but that rump_cd9660 using
 64KB reads is limited to aproximately 4MB/s at most, even if the system
 is mostly idle during those transfers (on netbsd-6/amd64 and 4 3.3GHz
 cores).

Some suggestions from Antti via email proxy:
Maybe he is using the block device (/dev/cd0a) instead of the raw device
(/dev/rcd0a).  IIRC the former has some pretty serious performance
problems for userspace I/O.  Also in the maybe department, libp2k
should probably detect and autoadjust a block device to raw device.
Or, someone could just fix the bdev stuff.


Cheers,
 Thomas