Re: [Telrad] Down tilt

[Ian Fraser]

Thanks Terry

I am running F1F2.  So leave the eNB at 6.6 and move the UE's to .89 ?

Thanks,
Ian

On 20/09/2016 11:30 AM, Adam Brodel wrote:


Why back to .89?  Are there problems with .105?

*From:*telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] *On 
Behalf Of *Terry Duchcherer

*Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 6:40 AM
*To:* telrad@wispa.org
*Subject:* Re: [Telrad] Down tilt

Ian, if you are running version 105 on the UE’s, try downgrading to 
.89. Also, with the sectors not back to back using F1F2 would be better.


Terry

*From:*telrad-boun...@wispa.org  
[mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Ian Fraser

*Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 8:00 PM
*To:* Jeremy Austin >; 
telrad@wispa.org 

*Subject:* Re: [Telrad] Down tilt

There are only 12 UE on that eNB. Average plan is 1x5. CINRS are all 
pretty good.  I can lock them to the sector freq based on geographical 
location but thats a pain if I need to change channels.


Cheers

Ian



 Original message 
From: Jeremy Austin >
Date:09-19-2016 7:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: telrad@wispa.org 
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Down tilt

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ian Fraser > wrote:



Now I see in BV that UpLink utilization is higher than it has ever
been
at 91% (peak was ~75% previously)  vs. DL at 58%.   I expect UL to
drop
or at least stay the same since we mitigated the noise slightly.

I stopped frequency locking the UE's - could the UL utilization be
caused by UE's that are on the 'wrong' sector ?


How many UEs are on your ENB that's seeing high up utilization?

We're currently wrangling with high upload (96% and more) usage on at 
least one sector in the low 20s. CINR are fairly high across the 
board. Seems to be new since 6.6, and doesn't seem to make much 
difference whether we're in 2x4 or 4x4 mode.


We've been comparing the output of "show ue-info active-ue-info-list 
bearer-information"
to identify UEs on the wrong sector. However, we're not using split 
mode, so I doubt that would be helpful for you — from what I recall, 
split mode just splits the RF chains, not the overall LTE capacity, so 
a client has no way to identify which sector it's on.


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Re: [Telrad] Down tilt

[Terry Duchcherer]

Yes, we have not had success with 105, UE continually disconnect and do not 
come back for long periods of time. We have also experienced many customer 
complaints about speed issues.

Rolling back to .89 solves the speed issues, and greatly improves the 
disconnects. Telrad blames interference, which may be some of the cause, but 
not all of it.

Terry

From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of 
Ian Fraser
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:36 AM
To: telrad@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Down tilt


Thanks Terry
I am running F1F2.  So leave the eNB at 6.6 and move the UE's to .89 ?

Thanks,
Ian
On 20/09/2016 11:30 AM, Adam Brodel wrote:
Why back to .89?  Are there problems with .105?

From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Terry Duchcherer
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 6:40 AM
To: telrad@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Down tilt

Ian, if you are running version 105 on the UE's, try downgrading to .89. Also, 
with the sectors not back to back using F1F2 would be better.

Terry


From: telrad-boun...@wispa.org 
[mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ian Fraser
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 8:00 PM
To: Jeremy Austin >; 
telrad@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Down tilt

There are only 12 UE on that eNB. Average plan is 1x5. CINRS are all pretty 
good.  I can lock them to the sector freq based on geographical location but 
thats a pain if I need to change channels.

Cheers
Ian


 Original message 
From: Jeremy Austin >
Date:09-19-2016 7:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: telrad@wispa.org
Cc:
Subject: Re: [Telrad] Down tilt

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ian Fraser 
> wrote:

Now I see in BV that UpLink utilization is higher than it has ever been
at 91% (peak was ~75% previously)  vs. DL at 58%.   I expect UL to drop
or at least stay the same since we mitigated the noise slightly.

I stopped frequency locking the UE's - could the UL utilization be
caused by UE's that are on the 'wrong' sector ?

How many UEs are on your ENB that's seeing high up utilization?

We're currently wrangling with high upload (96% and more) usage on at least one 
sector in the low 20s. CINR are fairly high across the board. Seems to be new 
since 6.6, and doesn't seem to make much difference whether we're in 2x4 or 4x4 
mode.

We've been comparing the output of "show ue-info active-ue-info-list 
bearer-information"
to identify UEs on the wrong sector. However, we're not using split mode, so I 
doubt that would be helpful for you - from what I recall, split mode just 
splits the RF chains, not the overall LTE capacity, so a client has no way to 
identify which sector it's on.

--
Jeremy Austin

(907) 895-2311
(907) 803-5422
jhaus...@gmail.com

Heritage NetWorks
Whitestone Power & Communications
Vertical Broadband, LLC

Schedule a meeting: http://doodle.com/jermudgeon




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Re: [Telrad] Down tilt

[Neil Smellie]

We are experiencing similar issues with the Compact 3000 in 2.3Ghz.
Customer complaints are sometimes fast, sometimes slow, long periods of no
service, UE just drops and requires the customer to repower the radio to
reconnect. I know Silo is using the same gear and seeing ducting from the
states in 2355MHz, but we are seeing issues in both 2355 and 2310. I am
having a hard time accepting the interference argument unless we are
creating some self interference.

The LTE service was to be a flagship service for us. We now have customers
that we have moved fro Canopy FSK to LTE asking to be moved back because
they are not willing to trade speed to stability. We are looking at moving
some planned LTE deployments to the 450i 900Mhz platform

Neil Smellie
Core Broadband Inc
Interactive North

On Tue, Sep 20, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Terry Duchcherer  wrote:

> Yes, we have not had success with 105, UE continually disconnect and do
> not come back for long periods of time. We have also experienced many
> customer complaints about speed issues.
>
>
>
> Rolling back to .89 solves the speed issues, and greatly improves the
> disconnects. Telrad blames interference, which may be some of the cause,
> but not all of it.
>
>
>
> Terry
>
>
>
> *From:* telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Ian Fraser
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 9:36 AM
>
> *To:* telrad@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] Down tilt
>
>
>
> Thanks Terry
>
> I am running F1F2.  So leave the eNB at 6.6 and move the UE's to .89 ?
>
> Thanks,
> Ian
>
> On 20/09/2016 11:30 AM, Adam Brodel wrote:
>
> Why back to .89?  Are there problems with .105?
>
>
>
> *From:* telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Terry Duchcherer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2016 6:40 AM
> *To:* telrad@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] Down tilt
>
>
>
> Ian, if you are running version 105 on the UE’s, try downgrading to .89.
> Also, with the sectors not back to back using F1F2 would be better.
>
>
>
> Terry
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* telrad-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:telrad-boun...@wispa.org
> ] *On Behalf Of *Ian Fraser
> *Sent:* Monday, September 19, 2016 8:00 PM
> *To:* Jeremy Austin ; telrad@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Telrad] Down tilt
>
>
>
> There are only 12 UE on that eNB. Average plan is 1x5. CINRS are all
> pretty good.  I can lock them to the sector freq based on geographical
> location but thats a pain if I need to change channels.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Ian
>
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Jeremy Austin 
> Date:09-19-2016 7:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: telrad@wispa.org
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [Telrad] Down tilt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ian Fraser  wrote:
>
>
> Now I see in BV that UpLink utilization is higher than it has ever been
> at 91% (peak was ~75% previously)  vs. DL at 58%.   I expect UL to drop
> or at least stay the same since we mitigated the noise slightly.
>
> I stopped frequency locking the UE's - could the UL utilization be
> caused by UE's that are on the 'wrong' sector ?
>
>
> How many UEs are on your ENB that's seeing high up utilization?
>
>
>
> We're currently wrangling with high upload (96% and more) usage on at
> least one sector in the low 20s. CINR are fairly high across the board.
> Seems to be new since 6.6, and doesn't seem to make much difference whether
> we're in 2x4 or 4x4 mode.
>
>
>
> We've been comparing the output of "show ue-info active-ue-info-list
> bearer-information"
> to identify UEs on the wrong sector. However, we're not using split mode,
> so I doubt that would be helpful for you — from what I recall, split mode
> just splits the RF chains, not the overall LTE capacity, so a client has no
> way to identify which sector it's on.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jeremy Austin
>
>
>
> (907) 895-2311
>
> (907) 803-5422
>
> jhaus...@gmail.com
>
>
>
> Heritage NetWorks
>
> Whitestone Power & Communications
>
> Vertical Broadband, LLC
>
>
>
> Schedule a meeting: http://doodle.com/jermudgeon
>
>
>
>
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