Regarding bug in the on screen keyboard

[Abdul Rehman]

Hi,
I have tested the on screen keyboard of Fedora 28 and I a found a bug in
that, I have visited to the Red Hat Bugzilla but didn't found any section
for the keyboard where I can file it. Any suggestions?

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Abdul Rehman Quadri
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Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

[Fred Smith]

On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 10:27:06AM +1200, Gavin Flower wrote:
> On 06/09/2018 04:45, Parag Nemade wrote:
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher
> >mailto:sgall...@redhat.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember
> >mailto:kalevlem...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back
> >now since
> >Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :)
> >
> >We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME
> >is still
> >at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's
> >quite a
> >bit of catching up to do.
> >
> >I just requested a f29-gnome side tag and will be commencing
> >3.30.0
> >builds shortly. When the builds are done, I'll try to collect
> >all the
> >builds in a single Bodhi megaupdate as usual. Please use
> >'fedpkg build
> >--target f29-gnome' if you are helping with builds, and I'll
> >pick up
> >anything that is tagged with f29-gnome in koji.
> >
> >Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30
> >in F29
> >Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from
> >QA here?
> >
> >There's also a few 3.30.0 builds already submitted separately into
> >Bodhi. I may try to collect those to the megaupdate as well,
> >not sure
> >yet. Let's see how things go :)
> >
> >
> >
> >I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a
> >GNOME mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong.
> >Please plan to land the mega-update in updates-testing once the
> >Freeze lifts. U-T is enabled by default on the Beta, so people
> >will pick it up on their first post-install update anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> >Please don't stop this update. There will be few required fixes in
> >this megaupdate which we need early to test.
> >
> >Parag.
> 
> [...]
> 
> I used to be a loyal GNOME 2 user, now I use Mate.  So I'd prefer
> it, if Fedora 29 was not destabilised for the majority of people who
> don't use GNOME.
> 
> Unless it improves using the Mate Desktop environment of course! :-)
> 
> Sorry, but years after GNOME 3 was foisted on us, I still have very
> strong feelings.

ME 2!
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Gavin
> 
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Fedora Rawhide-20180904.n.0 compose check report

[Fedora compose checker]

No missing expected images.

Failed openQA tests: 31/132 (x86_64), 2/24 (i386), 1/2 (arm)

New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20180903.n.0):

ID: 274863  Test: x86_64 universal install_delete_pata
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274863
ID: 274919  Test: i386 universal install_ext3
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274919

Old failures (same test failed in Rawhide-20180903.n.0):

ID: 274765  Test: x86_64 Server-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274765
ID: 274768  Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274768
ID: 274793  Test: x86_64 Everything-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274793
ID: 274796  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274796
ID: 274797  Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274797
ID: 274809  Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso memory_check@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274809
ID: 274810  Test: x86_64 Workstation-boot-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274810
ID: 274811  Test: i386 Workstation-live-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274811
ID: 274815  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274815
ID: 274822  Test: x86_64 KDE-live-iso desktop_notifications_postinstall
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274822
ID: 274828  Test: arm Minimal-raw_xz-raw.xz 
install_arm_image_deployment_upload
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274828
ID: 274831  Test: x86_64 AtomicHost-dvd_ostree-iso install_default@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274831
ID: 274841  Test: x86_64 universal install_simple_free_space@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274841
ID: 274842  Test: x86_64 universal install_multi_empty@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274842
ID: 274849  Test: x86_64 universal install_asian_language
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274849
ID: 274851  Test: x86_64 universal install_delete_pata@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274851
ID: 274854  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_btrfs@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274854
ID: 274855  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_no_swap@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274855
ID: 274856  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_xfs@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274856
ID: 274858  Test: x86_64 universal install_simple_encrypted@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274858
ID: 274861  Test: x86_64 universal install_software_raid@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274861
ID: 274862  Test: x86_64 universal install_delete_partial@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274862
ID: 274864  Test: x86_64 universal install_lvmthin@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274864
ID: 274874  Test: x86_64 universal install_btrfs@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274874
ID: 274875  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_ext3@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274875
ID: 274876  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_software_raid@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274876
ID: 274877  Test: x86_64 universal install_blivet_lvmthin@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274877
ID: 274880  Test: x86_64 universal install_ext3@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274880
ID: 274881  Test: x86_64 universal install_xfs@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274881
ID: 274882  Test: x86_64 universal install_no_swap@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274882
ID: 274896  Test: x86_64 universal install_sata@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274896
ID: 274898  Test: x86_64 universal install_multi@uefi
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274898

Soft failed openQA tests: 6/132 (x86_64), 4/24 (i386)
(Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug)

New soft failures (same test did not soft fail in Rawhide-20180903.n.0):

ID: 274843  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_2_minimal_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274843
ID: 274910  Test: i386 universal upgrade_2_desktop_32bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274910

Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Rawhide-20180903.n.0):

ID: 274790  Test: i386 Server-boot-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274790
ID: 274791  Test: i386 Server-dvd-iso install_default
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274791
ID: 274867  Test: x86_64 universal upgrade_desktop_64bit
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/274867
ID: 274869   

Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

[Gavin Flower]

On 06/09/2018 04:45, Parag Nemade wrote:



On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher > wrote:




On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember
mailto:kalevlem...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back
now since
Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :)

We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME
is still
at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's
quite a
bit of catching up to do.

I just requested a f29-gnome side tag and will be commencing
3.30.0
builds shortly. When the builds are done, I'll try to collect
all the
builds in a single Bodhi megaupdate as usual. Please use
'fedpkg build
--target f29-gnome' if you are helping with builds, and I'll
pick up
anything that is tagged with f29-gnome in koji.

Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30
in F29
Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from
QA here?

There's also a few 3.30.0 builds already submitted separately into
Bodhi. I may try to collect those to the megaupdate as well,
not sure
yet. Let's see how things go :)



I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a
GNOME mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong.
Please plan to land the mega-update in updates-testing once the
Freeze lifts. U-T is enabled by default on the Beta, so people
will pick it up on their first post-install update anyway.



Please don't stop this update. There will be few required fixes in 
this megaupdate which we need early to test.


Parag.


[...]

I used to be a loyal GNOME 2 user, now I use Mate.  So I'd prefer it, if 
Fedora 29 was not destabilised for the majority of people who don't use 
GNOME.


Unless it improves using the Mate Desktop environment of course! :-)

Sorry, but years after GNOME 3 was foisted on us, I still have very 
strong feelings.



Cheers,
Gavin

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Fedora rawhide compose report: 20180904.n.0 changes

[Fedora Rawhide Report]

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  * Mon Sep 03 2018 Be

To join Fedora testing and quality assurance

[Abdul Rehman]

Hi,
I am currently testing on Screen keyboard of Fedora using OpenQA and I
found a bug which I would like to discuss on the list. So request to join
me in the list.

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Abdul Rehman Quadri
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Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 11:19 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember  wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since
> > Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :)
> > 
> > We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME is still
> > at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's quite a
> > bit of catching up to do.
> > 
> > I just requested a f29-gnome side tag and will be commencing 3.30.0
> > builds shortly. When the builds are done, I'll try to collect all the
> > builds in a single Bodhi megaupdate as usual. Please use 'fedpkg build
> > --target f29-gnome' if you are helping with builds, and I'll pick up
> > anything that is tagged with f29-gnome in koji.
> > 
> > Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29
> > Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA here?
> > 
> > There's also a few 3.30.0 builds already submitted separately into
> > Bodhi. I may try to collect those to the megaupdate as well, not sure
> > yet. Let's see how things go :)
> > 
> > 
> 
> I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME
> mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong. Please plan to
> land the mega-update in updates-testing once the Freeze lifts. U-T is
> enabled by default on the Beta, so people will pick it up on their first
> post-install update anyway.

There is no need to wait "for the Freeze [to] lift" to land this or any
update in updates-testing. The freeze applies only to the 'stable'
repository: the freeze prevents packages being moved *from* updates-
testing to 'stable' (without approval via FE/blocker process). Packages
can be submitted to, and land in, updates-testing at any time
throughout the cycle.
-- 
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Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

[Adam Williamson]

On Wed, 2018-09-05 at 22:15 +0530, Parag Nemade wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher 
> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since
> > > Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :)
> > > 
> > > We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME is still
> > > at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's quite a
> > > bit of catching up to do.
> > > 
> > > I just requested a f29-gnome side tag and will be commencing 3.30.0
> > > builds shortly. When the builds are done, I'll try to collect all the
> > > builds in a single Bodhi megaupdate as usual. Please use 'fedpkg build
> > > --target f29-gnome' if you are helping with builds, and I'll pick up
> > > anything that is tagged with f29-gnome in koji.
> > > 
> > > Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29
> > > Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA here?
> > > 
> > > There's also a few 3.30.0 builds already submitted separately into
> > > Bodhi. I may try to collect those to the megaupdate as well, not sure
> > > yet. Let's see how things go :)
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME
> > mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong. Please plan to
> > land the mega-update in updates-testing once the Freeze lifts. U-T is
> > enabled by default on the Beta, so people will pick it up on their first
> > post-install update anyway.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Please don't stop this update. There will be few required fixes in this
> megaupdate which we need early to test.

There is a precedent for accepting this kind of update during freeze,
but GNOME is usually in a more organized state to start with (i.e.
we're usually going from something like an organized set of .91 builds
to an organized set of .0 builds), so I suspect the danger of
destabilizing the Beta is slightly higher. The earlier the update can
be put together, the less unhappy I'd be to accept it wholesale through
the freeze. Note that Go/No-Go is scheduled for next Thursday.

To make sure everyone's on the same page, if we do *not* accept the
update for the Beta, then by default those who install the Beta will
get it on their first system update after installing (as updates-
testing is enabled by default for pre-releases). Thus it will still
certainly be testable.

The decision to be made is basically "do the benefits of having the
3.30.0 builds actually in the Beta, in terms of making the live image
and first boot environment work better, outweigh the risks that they
will somehow cause issues for the compose process or contain undetected
critical bugs worse than those in the current builds". The more runway
we have to test the compose process and the composed artifacts, the
happier I'd be with saying the benefits will likely outweigh the
drawbacks.
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Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

[Parag Nemade]

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 8:49 PM, Stephen Gallagher 
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since
>> Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :)
>>
>> We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME is still
>> at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's quite a
>> bit of catching up to do.
>>
>> I just requested a f29-gnome side tag and will be commencing 3.30.0
>> builds shortly. When the builds are done, I'll try to collect all the
>> builds in a single Bodhi megaupdate as usual. Please use 'fedpkg build
>> --target f29-gnome' if you are helping with builds, and I'll pick up
>> anything that is tagged with f29-gnome in koji.
>>
>> Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29
>> Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA here?
>>
>> There's also a few 3.30.0 builds already submitted separately into
>> Bodhi. I may try to collect those to the megaupdate as well, not sure
>> yet. Let's see how things go :)
>>
>>
>
> I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME
> mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong. Please plan to
> land the mega-update in updates-testing once the Freeze lifts. U-T is
> enabled by default on the Beta, so people will pick it up on their first
> post-install update anyway.
>
>

Please don't stop this update. There will be few required fixes in this
megaupdate which we need early to test.

Parag.
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Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

[Peter Robinson]

>> As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since
>> Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :)
>>
>> We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME is still
>> at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's quite a
>> bit of catching up to do.
>>
>> I just requested a f29-gnome side tag and will be commencing 3.30.0
>> builds shortly. When the builds are done, I'll try to collect all the
>> builds in a single Bodhi megaupdate as usual. Please use 'fedpkg build
>> --target f29-gnome' if you are helping with builds, and I'll pick up
>> anything that is tagged with f29-gnome in koji.
>>
>> Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29
>> Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA here?
>>
>> There's also a few 3.30.0 builds already submitted separately into
>> Bodhi. I may try to collect those to the megaupdate as well, not sure
>> yet. Let's see how things go :)
>>
>
>
> I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME 
> mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong. Please plan to 
> land the mega-update in updates-testing once the Freeze lifts. U-T is enabled 
> by default on the Beta, so people will pick it up on their first post-install 
> update anyway.

Ultimately by declining it now all we're doing is pushing out the
pain, if any, to post beta which IMO is even worse given we're then
deferring it to GA freeze which is even worse!

Also there has been a precedent in the past for putting this in,
whether that is right or not I have no opinion.

Peter
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Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

[Richard Hughes]

On Wed, 5 Sep 2018 at 16:19, Stephen Gallagher  wrote:
> I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME 
> mega-update.

So you'd rather we ship GA with early pre-release builds of GNOME that
have had little-to-no testing? From a downstream point of view I'm not
going to fix things found by Fedora QA in 3.29.4 when a stable 3.30.0
exists with those fixes.

Richard.
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Re: GNOME 3.30.0 megaupdate

[Stephen Gallagher]

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 11:12 AM Kalev Lember  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As many of you know, I've been gone half the summer. I'm back now since
> Monday though and just in time for GNOME 3.30.0 :)
>
> We are quite a bit behind with the builds, like half of GNOME is still
> at 3.28.x or at various stages of 3.29.x snapshots, so there's quite a
> bit of catching up to do.
>
> I just requested a f29-gnome side tag and will be commencing 3.30.0
> builds shortly. When the builds are done, I'll try to collect all the
> builds in a single Bodhi megaupdate as usual. Please use 'fedpkg build
> --target f29-gnome' if you are helping with builds, and I'll pick up
> anything that is tagged with f29-gnome in koji.
>
> Dunno what to do wrt the ongoing freeze and getting final 3.30 in F29
> Beta, I guess it may be too late for that. Any opinions from QA here?
>
> There's also a few 3.30.0 builds already submitted separately into
> Bodhi. I may try to collect those to the megaupdate as well, not sure
> yet. Let's see how things go :)
>
>

I'd be *strongly* disinclined to give a Freeze Exception for a GNOME
mega-update. There's just far too much that could go wrong. Please plan to
land the mega-update in updates-testing once the Freeze lifts. U-T is
enabled by default on the Beta, so people will pick it up on their first
post-install update anyway.
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