Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2023-04-18 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 6:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2023-04-19 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis
>At fedora-meetin...@irc.libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/
> Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10144/

We will discuss the following nominated bugs:

* English keyboard layout is erroneously used during initramfs phase
(e.g. decrypting encrypted storage devices) instead of native layout,
on Silverblue / ostree installs
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1890085
* Cannot copy/paste to/from KDE VMs
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016563
* Windows with bitlocker enabled can't be booted, needs to use
bootnext instead of chainloader
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2049849
* Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails
to boot on some boards
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005

In addition, we'll check in on the following accepted bugs:

* It is possible to go through the initial setup without creating a
root and without adding a user to the wheel group
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015490

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Re: new criterion proposal: toolbox functionality

2023-04-12 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 11:56 PM Sumantro Mukherjee  wrote:
>
> Toolbox aka Toolbx should be usable.

As a style matter, let's just cut this sentence. "usable" is vague and
the next sentence offers more clarity.

> Toolbox should be able to list,
> create and provide the desired containerized environment to the user
> without root privileges.

Do we need to tighten the scope here? What sorts of failures are
acceptable? If someone tries to create a toolbox that pulls in
software from third-party repositories, I think we'd want to call that
not our problem.

> Toolbox images should be generally
> functional.

How does this differ from the previous sentence? Is "generally
functional" more than list, create, and provide the containerized
environment?

> Footnote - "What does this cover?":
> Toolbox's general functionality as covered by this test cases
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_toolbox

The test case seems to be much narrower than the text of the criterion
implies. Is the test case insufficient or is the criterion too broad?

> I think this criterion could target F39 Beta Release Criteria or Basic
> Release Criteria [2].

I'd say this is a Beta (or possibly Final, although I'm not sure if I
believe that) criterion for now. When/if ostree variants become our
primary desktop deliverable, moving it to Basic would make sense to
me.

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Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

2023-04-07 Thread Ben Cotton
The current target is the early target date (18 April).

Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. shim — Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2
fails to boot on some boards — NEW
ACTION: kernel upstream to merge NX support

Proposed blockers
-

1. fedora-release  — Fedora 38 Final needs a non-prerelease
fedora-release package and fedora-repos with updates-testing disabled
— MODIFIED
ACTION: QA to verify update FEDORA-2023-ae8bf65eea


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1.  shim — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005 — NEW
Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to
boot on some boards

UEFI LoadOptions that start with NUL cause boot failure. This is fixed
upstream in https://github.com/rhboot/shim/pull/505 but the SecureBoot
signing process requires NX support in the kernel, which is still
pending upstream.

Proposed blockers
-

1. fedora-release  —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2185122 — MODIFIED
Fedora 38 Final needs a non-prerelease fedora-release package and
fedora-repos with updates-testing disabled

Currently fedora-release and fedora-repos are in a pre-release state.
Update https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2023-ae8bf65eea
contains a candidate fix.



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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2023-04-04 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 6:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2023-04-05 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis
>At fedora-meetin...@irc.libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/
> Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10144/

There are 0 nominated bugs and the 1 accepted bug is making progress,
so I am cancelling the Prioritized Bugs meeting. We'll meet again 19
April.

As a reminder, this process exists but it only works if you nominate
bugs. See 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/#_nomination
for the kinds of bugs to nominate.

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Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

2023-03-31 Thread Ben Cotton
The current target is the early target date (18 April).

Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. kernel — anaconda failed to detect the fcoe target(only affects ixgbe) — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue
NEEDINFO: lnie

2. plasma-workspace — Logging out of Plasma 5.27.3 on Wayland as the
second user on the system resulted in a black screen — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

3. shim — Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2
fails to boot on some boards — NEW
ACTION: kernel upstream to merge NX support

Proposed blockers
-

1. abrt — crash data are erased occasionally — VERIFIED
ACTION: (none)

2. Podman — shadow-utils installations fails with “cap_set_file
failed” in toolbox/podman on F38 host
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue



Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2171350 — NEW
anaconda failed to detect the fcoe target(only affects ixgbe)

The installer does not detect attached FCOE storage using ixgbe. The
device ends up in "NO-CARRIER state DORNMANT".

2. plasma-workspace — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2179591 — NEW
Logging out of Plasma 5.27.3 on Wayland as the second user on the
system resulted in a black screen

In some cases, a race condition prevents a user on a system from
logging out successfully. This appears to be an SELinux issue filed as
RHBZ 2181010 for which FEDORA-2023-624eb88729 contains a verified fix.
It seems that a failure of dbus-:1.2-org.kde.LogoutPrompt@0.service
causes the sddm session to not be restarted.

3. shim — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005 — NEW
Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to
boot on some boards

UEFI LoadOptions that start with NUL cause boot failure. This is fixed
upstream in https://github.com/rhboot/shim/pull/505 but the SecureBoot
signing process requires NX support in the kernel, which is still
pending upstream.

Proposed blockers
-

1. abrt — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177153 — VERIFIED
MaxCrashReportsSize claims to be 5000 MB but is 1000 MB

abrt is using a smaller size limit than the hard-coded default of 5000
MB. FEDORA-2023-eb09dd6406 containes a verified fix.

2. podman — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2183034 — NEW
packages with file capabilities fail to install in podman on F38 host

DNF update in a freshly-created f38 toolbox fails. The issue seems to
only happen on F38 hosts; shadow-utlis is updatable in an F36 and F37
container and host using podman 4.4.1. Suspected issue is a change in
Podman between 4.4.2 -> 4.4.3 or a different config file in F38. This
does not appear to be specific to the shadow-utils package.

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Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

2023-03-24 Thread Ben Cotton
igh priority reload requests.

3. gnome-shell — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2180277 — NEW
gnome-shell crashes and sysops happens when users logout

Logging out sometimes causes a crash. It may be caused by trying to
exit with open windows. An upstream MR contains work-in-progress
fixes: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/2722/

4. gnome-software —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2181367 — MODIFIED
Incorrect priority order of app sources

Contrary to FESCo's requirement for the Unfiltered Flathub Change,
flatpaks from Flathub sometimes take priority over Fedora RPMs.
FEDORA-2023-49b5dec107 contains a candidate fix.

5. kwin — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2179591 — NEW
Logging out of Plasma 5.27.3 on Wayland as the second user on the
system resulted in a black screen

In some cases, a race condition prevents the second user on a system
from logging out successfully. This appears to be an SELinux issue
filed as RHBZ 2181010. An upstream PR contains a candidate fix:
https://github.com/fedora-selinux/selinux-policy/pull/1628



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Re: new criterion proposal: Window manager functionality

2023-03-22 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 3:58 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> Here's a second draft. I took feedback here and also from the QA meeting [1]. 
> The split between the milestones makes this harder to read and compare. If 
> you have better ideas on how to do it, please tell me :-)

I like it.


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Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

2023-03-17 Thread Ben Cotton
d.
The proposed `vga=normal` workaround does not appear to work.

7. mutter — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175809 — VERIFIED
Session crash when reverting Display settings

Applying a change to Display settings and then reverting (or pressing
Escape when presented with the revert dialog) results in a crash.
Letting the dialog window time out does not crash.
FEDORA-2023-6cec60a347 contains a verified fix.

8. mutter — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177982 — VERIFIED
Crash when using Win+P shortcut

Using Win+P to switch between displays configuration crashes
gnome-shell. FEDORA-2023-6cec60a347 contains a verified fix.

9. nautilus — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176766 — VERIFIED
Dragging files is Nautilus doesn't work as expected, quick movements
result in a selection box instead

In order to successfully drag-and-drop a file, you must first hold the
mouse still with the left button pressed for ~half a second.
FEDORA-2023-287e6e502b contains a verified fix.

10. openssh — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2172956 — POST
Update hostkey migration to support OSTree systems and dynamically
detect hostkey location

rpm-ostree systems don't run RPM scriptlets on upgrade, which could
result in an upgrade locking users out of remote machines. Package
pull requests https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedora-release/pull-request/253
and https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/openssh/pull-request/45 contain
a candidate fix.

11. sddm — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2174563 — NEW
Virtual keyboard (on-screen) not working at sddm-wayland-plasma

The virtual keyboard at the login screen does not appear when you
click the appropriate button. This appears to be a Wayland-specific
issue; reverting to X11 allows the keyboard to work as expected.

12. shim — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2113005 — NEW
Live image made with BOOTX64.EFI from latest shim-x64-15.6-2 fails to
boot on some boards

UEFI LoadOptions that start with NUL cause boot failure. This is fixed
upstream in https://github.com/rhboot/shim/pull/505 but the SecureBoot
signing process requires NX support in the kernel, which is still
pending upstream.

Proposed blockers
-

1. f38-backgrounds —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2178172 — VERIFIED
The default wallpaper isn't listed among available wallpapers

The default background is correctly applied, but if the users switches
to a different wallpaper, the default is not visible in the selection.
FEDORA-2023-359dafca1d contains a verified fix.

2. gnome-abrt — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177153 — NEW
crash data are erased occasionally

It appears that abrt is removing report data when disk usage exceeds a
threshold, but it's not clear why the reporter is expericing this
worse than others. There may be some user experience improvements to
make. In any case, the vote looks likely to be for rejecting this as a
blocker.

3. gnome-calendar — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2177993 — NEW
Crash/Hang when clicking a modified Google event right after editing
it (due to the preview popover)

Clicking on a remote event immediately after editing it results in
either a crash or an unresponsive window. Waiting a few seconds before
clicking results in expected behavior.

4. ibus — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2156108 — MODIFIED
ibus: XFree(): ibus-x11 killed by SIGABRT

Typing is sometimes "sluggish" with frequent pauses. Eventually ibus
crashes. FEDORA-2023-e0df9e598e contains a candidate fix.

5. mutter — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2178167 — POST
Fullscreen mode is broken for many games

Many games fail to work in fullscreen and if they launch in
fullscreen, they may not be usable at all. Upstream MR
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/2910 contains a
candidate fix.

6. xdg-desktop-portal-kde —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2178971 — NEW
xdg-desktop-portal-kde is launching and crashing when SDDM launches
the Wayland greeter

When the greeter launches, xdg-desktop-portal-kde also launches and
crashes. This appears to only happen on Wayland.




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Re: new criterion proposal: Window manager functionality

2023-03-17 Thread Ben Cotton
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 5:48 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> The desktop environment must work correctly when displaying common 
> application content - that includes regular application windows, video 
> output, games and possibly other common content. Regular operations like 
> windows close/resize/maximize/minimize/fullscreen (when 
> supported/applicable), windows switching, using windows on virtual 
> workspaces, and similar common operations must behave as expected.

Thinking like an editor for a moment, this feels a little redundant in
places. I agree with the general concept, so this is entirely a
presentation issue and I will not push back if you disagree. :But how
about something more like:

The desktop environment must perform regular operations like windows
close/resize/maximize/minimize/fullscreen (when supported/applicable),
windows switching, using windows on virtual workspaces, and similar
common operations as expected. Common application content such as
regular application windows, video output, and games must be displayed
correctly.

> Footnote - "What does this cover?":
> A small number of misbehaving applications is not a violation of this 
> criterion. The goal of this criterion is to ensure general functionality for 
> different types of applications and their operations. An example of a 
> violation would be e.g. if a significant number of QT applications couldn't 
> be resized (but they should be), or if all Java applications failed to 
> display any content.

I'd also add something that makes it clear if it's the application not
displaying the content correctly, that's out of scope for this
criterion. I can't think of a good way to phrase that. But I wouldn't
want someone to think Joe's Fancy Pew Pew Pew Game having a glitchy
display would violate this.

> I think this criterion could target F38 Beta Release Criteria [3] or Basic 
> Release Criteria [4].

Definitely Basic for the same reason as Neal gave.

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Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

2023-03-10 Thread Ben Cotton
d then un-deleting does not appear to fully undelete it.

7. mutter — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175809 — POST
Session crash when reverting Display settings

Applying a change to Display settings and then reverting (or pressing
Escape when presented with the revert dialog) results in a crash.
Letting the dialog window time out does not crash. Upstream MR
contains a candidate fix:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/2901

8. nautilus — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176766 — NEW
Dragging files is Nautilus doesn't work as expected, quick movements
result in a selection box instead

In order to successfully drag-and-drop a file, you must first hold the
mouse still with the left button pressed for ~half a second.

9. sddm — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176782 — NEW
SDDM doesn't start in basic graphics mode in BIOS mode

In BIOS mode only, sddm results in a blank screen when using basic
graphics mode. This may be the result of a SimpleDRM device not being
created.

10. totem — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2176726 — NEW
totem crashes everytime when users try to delete a video

Deleting a video results in an application crash, but only when there
is only one video.


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Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

2023-03-03 Thread Ben Cotton
The current target release date is the early target date (2023-03-14).
The Go/No-Go meeting will be Thursday!

Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size — POST
ACTION: gdb maintainers to remove the 'Recommends' for gcc-gdb-plugin from gdb

2. crypto-policies —  Insecure installed RPMs (like Google Chrome)
prevent system updates in F38, can't be removed  — NEW
ACTION: Upstream to implement MR #129


Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-session — reboot/poweroff/logout from GNOME are 60 seconds
delayed without 3D acceleration — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

2. gnupg2 — revert the RFC4880bis from defaults — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to revert inclusion of RFC4880bis

3. initial-setup — User creation and root password setting do not work
on minimal install, so cannot log into installed system — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

4. kernel — Black screen when amdgpu started during 6.2-rc1 boot with
AMD IOMMU enabled — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to package update which includes upstream patches

5. mutter — XWayland apps steal focus — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to build update with upstream merge request

6. sddm — Virtual keyboard (on-screen) not working at sddm-wayland-plasma — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. distribution — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2149246 — POST
Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size

Changes to linux-firmware briefly brought the Worktation image below
the limit. Removing the recommendation (in gdb) of gcc-gdb-plugin,
which is "largely broken", should reduce the image size below limits.

2. crypto-policies — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2170878 — NEW
Insecure installed RPMs (like Google Chrome) prevent system updates in
F38, can't be removed

Some third-party repos (including Google Chrome) that sign packages
with SHA-1 cannot be uninstalled, which breaks upgrades. This was
designated a blocker by FESCo. Work is in progress upstream to allow
RPM to permit SHA-1 in the default policy while third-party repos
update to a supported hash function:
https://gitlab.com/redhat-crypto/fedora-crypto-policies/-/merge_requests/129


Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-session — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2174753 — NEW
reboot/poweroff/logout from GNOME are 60 seconds delayed without 3D acceleration

On machines (physical and virtual) without 3D acceleration, clicking
the reboot/poweroff/logout buttons has no apparent effect for 60
seconds. A second click or using command line commands works
immediately.

2. gnupg2 — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175155 — NEW
revert the RFC4880bis from defaults

GnuPG 2.4.0 made a potentially-incompatible change. A PR is pending to
revert this: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/gnupg2/pull-request/15

3. initial-setup — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2175244 — NEW
User creation and root password setting do not work on minimal
install, so cannot log into installed system

On the Minimial image only, initial-setup silently fails to create a
user. This results in a system with no usable user account.

4. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2156691 — NEW
Black screen when amdgpu started during 6.2-rc1 boot with AMD IOMMU enabled

Kernel 6.2.0 introduced an issue that causes the system to hang when
booting with amdgpu. There are upstream patches targeted for 6.2.2
that contain a candidate fix.

5. mutter — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2173985 — NEW
XWayland apps steal focus

Alt+Tab switching, as well as (sometimes) clicking on windows does not
focus the window. This seems to largely affect Wine, Java, and
Chromium applications. This may have been introduced by upstream
commit a68b8e95. Upstream MR #2841 has a fix for Chrome and Electron
apps.

6. sddm — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2174563 — NEW
Virtual keyboard (on-screen) not working at sddm-wayland-plasma

The virtual keyboard at the login screen does not appear when you
click the appropriate button.

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Re: [Proposal] Dropping YYYY-MM-DD from Test Day Page Title

2023-03-02 Thread Ben Cotton
I don't see that including the date in the title adds much value,
particularly since it creates the potential for confusion. Using the
release (e.g. 'F38') or release+milestone when there are multiple in a
cycle (e.g. "F38beta") provides uniqueness in a way that's much easier
to manage.

I'm in favor of dropping dates from the title.

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Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

2023-02-23 Thread Ben Cotton
The current target release date is the early target date (2023-03-14).

Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Workstation WG to reduce image size or increase the limit

2. kwin — kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland
compositor and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen —
ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2023-81ff51758d


Proposed blockers
-

1. gdb — Can't open file anon_inode:i915.gem which was expanded to
anon_inode:i915.gem during file-backed mapping note processing — NEW
ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue

2. pkgconf — Don't depend on system-rpm-config — ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2023-766817d642


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. distribution — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2149246 — ASSIGNED
Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size

Changes to linux-firmware briefly brought the Worktation image below
the limit. However, the Fedora-38-20230216.n.0 went above the limit
again.

2. kwin — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2168034 — ON_QA
kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland compositor
and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen

Logging out of Plasma sometimes triggers a kwin crash.
FEDORA-2023-81ff51758d contains a candidate fix.


Proposed blockers
-

1. gdb — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2172342 — NEW
Can't open file anon_inode:i915.gem which was expanded to
anon_inode:i915.gem during file-backed mapping note processing

Reporting a bug with gnome-abrt fails because no fram and no thread
found in the backtrace that gdb produces.

2. pkgconf — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2172406 — ON_QA
Don't depend on system-rpm-config

pkgconf pulls in ~22 new packages as a runtime dependency, which don't
appear to be strictly necessary. FEDORA-2023-766817d642 contains a
candidate fix.



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Re: Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

2023-02-17 Thread Ben Cotton
The F38 Beta freeze begins on 21 February. The current target release
date is the early target date (2023-03-14).

Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. distribution — Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Workstation WG to reduce image size or increase the limit

Proposed blockers
-

1. glusterfs — libglusterd0 prevents upgrades to Fedora 38 — NEW
ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue

2. kwin — kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland
compositor and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen — NEW
ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. distribution — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2149246 — ASSIGNED
Workstation boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size

Changes to linux-firmware briefly brought the Worktation image below
the limit. However, the Fedora-38-20230216.n.0 went above the limit
again.


Proposed blockers
-

1. glusterfs — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2169401 — NEW
libglusterd0 prevents upgrades to Fedora 38

libglusterd0, which is preinstalled in F37 Workstation, is not
provided by anything in the F38 repos, so upgrades fail.

2. kwin — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2168034 — NEW
kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland compositor
and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen

Logging out of Plasma sometimes triggers a kwin crash. This may be
limited to running in a virtual machine.


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F37 retrospective survey open through 9 March

2023-02-15 Thread Ben Cotton
In case you missed it on the Community Blog[1], the F37 retrospective
survey[2] is open through 9 March. As a reminder, this survey is about
the _process_ of creating F37, not the end result. This is the third
such survey, so we'll be able to start putting together trends.

This survey uses Fedora's LimeSurvey instance. Responses are anonymous.

[1] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f37-retrospective-survey-open/
[2] https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/37

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Fedora Linux 38 blocker status summary

2023-02-10 Thread Ben Cotton
We've branched F38 from Rawhide, so it's time to start everyone's
favorite Friday email from Ben! The F38 Beta freeze begins on 21
February. The current target release date is the early target date
(2023-03-14).


Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Relevant Teams to reduce image size or increase the limit

Proposed blockers
-

1. anaconda — installer fails to boot in text mode or rescue mode with
systemd 253 — MODIFIED
ACTION: Maintainers to build an update that includes upstream PR

2. grub2 — ext4 filessystem support missing — NEW
ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue
NEEDINFO: ausil

3. kwin — kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland
compositor and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen — NEW
ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue

4. mesa — KDE crashes on start with mesa-23.0.0~rc3-3.fc38 — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose issue

Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1–3. distribution — {Workstation,Everything,Server} boot x86_64 image
exceeds maximum size — ASSIGNED
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2149246
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2151495
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2151497

Image sizes exceed the specified limits. The choices are to either
shrink the image by removing packages or to riase the limits.

Proposed blockers
-

1. anaconda — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2165433 — MODIFIED
installer fails to boot in text mode or rescue mode with systemd 253

anaconda is writing systemd units to an unexpected area. Upstream PR
4534 contains a candidate fix:
https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/4534

2. grub2 — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2166412 — NEW
ext4 filessystem support missing

Between grub2-2.06-76 and grub2-2.06-78, grub2 apparently lost the
ability to detect ext4  filesystems.

3. kwin — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2168034 — NEW
kwin_wayland often crashed when used as the sddm Wayland compositor
and logging out of Plasma resulting in a black screen

Logging out of Plasma sometimes triggers a kwin crash. This may be
limited to running in a virtual machine.

4. mesa — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2164667 — ASSIGNED
KDE crashes on start with mesa-23.0.0~rc3-3.fc38

A recent mesa update caused both GNOME and KDE to crash on start.
Update FEDORA-2023-40b973fa06 fixed GNOME, but KDE is still seeing
this issue. The root cause is still uncertain.

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Re: Proposed change to rendering of release schedule ics file

2023-02-02 Thread Ben Cotton
Sure, no problem. I was under the assumption that the packager
dashboard parsed the json file and not the ics file, so this change
may be more impactful than I thought. But I'll wait until you've had a
chance to look.


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Proposed change to rendering of release schedule ics file

2023-01-30 Thread Ben Cotton
Hi everyone,

I want to get feedback before I make a change to how Fedora Linux
schedules are generated. As reported in schedule#91[1], the current
ics files include very long tasks that aren't particularly useful. I
have a plan for how to address that, but first I want to check that it
won't impact how people currently use the ics files.

If you're using the Fedora Linux schedule ics files, please see the
details in the Pagure issue[2]. If this will affect how you or your
team use those files, comment in the issue before 13 February. Note
that this will not change how the html or json versions are produced.


[1] https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/schedule/issue/91
[2] https://pagure.io/fedora-pgm/schedule/issue/91#comment-838492

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2023-01-10 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Jan 10, 2023 at 5:35 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2023-01-11 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 
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>At fedora-meetin...@irc.libera.chat
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> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/

There are no nominated prioritized bugs, so I'm cancelling this week's
meeting. I follow up with the currently accepted bugs out of band. The
next meeting is scheduled for 25 January.


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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-11-29 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 5:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2022-11-30 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 
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> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/

We will evaluate the following proposed Prioritized Bugs:


* Recent kernels cause problem with microphone LED on Thinkpad X1 Carbon gen. 9
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2134824

* Do Not Disturb enabled when screens are not mirrored
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2143358

In addition, we'll follow up on the accepted bugs:

* It is possible to go through the initial setup without creating a
root and without adding a user to the wheel group
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015490


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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-11-15 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 11:29 AM  wrote:
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> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
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We will discuss the following nominated bug:

* ABRT on KDE can't store any passwords: Secret Service is not available
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2141237

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Re: F37 Final blocker status update

2022-11-04 Thread Ben Cotton
Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. gnome-calendar — Editing the recurring event freezes Calendar. — VERIFIED
ACTION: (none)

2. kernel — No video on Raspberry Pi 4 with kernel 5.19.15 and 5.19.16
(testing) — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Kernel maintainers to build update with patch

3. kernel — Plasma on Wayland hangs at startup when booting with
nomodeset ("basic graphics" mode) on UEFI due to simpledrm incorrectly
advertising 10-bit pixel formats on 8-bit native framebuffers —
VERIFIED
ACTION: (none)

Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-calendar — The calendar events are displayed as many times as
the calendar gets opened. — NEW
ACTION: QA to identify the conditions that cause this bug


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. gnome-calendar —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2135772 — VERIFIED
Editing the recurring event freezes Calendar.

Fixing other recurring-event handling in Calendar reveals that the
handling in general is, as upstream calls it, "stupidly broken." In
short: with both (and only) weekly recurrence and "until date"
termination, editing a recurring event causes Calendar to crash.
FEDORA-2022-ce3b8fbd4d contains a verified fix.

2. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2136234 — ASSIGNED
No video on Raspberry Pi 4 with kernel 5.19.15 and 5.19.16 (testing)

Booting to a graphical environment on the Pi4 fails. This was fixed in
kernel-5.19.16-300, but was reintroduced in the 6.0 kernel series due
to a merge issue. A new build with a mergeable patch is needed.

3. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2137600 — VERIFIED
Plasma on Wayland hangs at startup when booting with nomodeset ("basic
graphics" mode) on UEFI due to simpledrm incorrectly advertising
10-bit pixel formats on 8-bit native framebuffers

The simpledrm driver offers formats that aren't actually supported and
kwin ends up using one of the unsupported formats.
FEDORA-2022-c4057cabb4 contains a verified fix.

Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-calendar — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2139552 — NEW
The calendar events are displayed as many times as the calendar gets opened.

Under some (not entirely clear to me) conditions, Calendar duplicates
events in the display every time the calendar is open. This does not
sync to remote calendar servers (e.g. Google Calendar) and resets on
restart of the calendar service.

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-11-01 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Nov 1, 2022 at 6:00 AM  wrote:
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> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
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> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/

There are no nominated or accepted bugs, so the meeting is cancelled.

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Re: F37 Final blocker status update

2022-10-27 Thread Ben Cotton
Because of the openssl blocker, we are targeting 15 November. See the
Fedora Magazine article for more information behind the reasoning:
https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-linux-37-update/


Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. gnome-calendar — Editing the recurring event freezes Calendar. — NEW
ACTION: Upstream to diagnose and fix issue

2. kwin — Plasma on Wayland hangs at startup when booting with
nomodeset ("basic graphics" mode) on UEFI) — NEW
ACTION: Kernel maintainers to build update with patch

3. openssl — upcoming critical openssl vulnerability — NEW
ACTION: openssl maintainers to build version 3.0.7 when released

Proposed blockers
-

(none)


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. gnome-calendar — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2135772 — NEW
Editing the recurring event freezes Calendar.

Fixing other recurring-event handling in Calendar reveals that the
handling in general is, as upstream calls it, "stupidly broken." In
short: with both (and only) weekly recurrence and "until date"
termination, editing a recurring event causes Calendar to crash.

2. kwin — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2136234 — NEW
Plasma on Wayland hangs at startup when booting with nomodeset ("basic
graphics" mode) on UEFI

The DRM driver advertises some formats that aren't actually supported
by the hardware. Kwin naively believes the kernel, resulting in a
failure to launch Plasma under certain conditions. A patch has been
discussed upstream and will be added to an F37 kernel udpate.

3. openssl — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2137661 — NEW
upcoming critical openssl vulnerability

A "critical" severity bug is fixed in an openssl release due Tuesday 1
November. That's about all we know at this point.


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Re: F37 Final blocker status update

2022-10-20 Thread Ben Cotton
We were no-go today for target date #1. In order to hit target date
#2, we'd ideally have fixes for outstanding blockers by Monday.
Tuesday at the latest. (Note that based on upstream's comments, the
accepted gnome-calendar bug is a candidate to be waived under the
"difficult to fix" exception)

In the interests of saving myself a few minutes, I did not include two
proposed blockers that have overwhelmingly negative votes. You can see
them for yourself at:
https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/37/final/buglist


Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. gnome-calendar — Editing the recurring event freezes Calendar. — NEW
ACTION: Upstream to diagnose and fix issue

2. kernel — No video on Raspberry Pi 4 with kernel 5.19.15 and 5.19.16
(testing) — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainer to diagnose and fix issue


Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-control-center — Settings crashes when trying to edit WPA2
Enterprise wifi without a stored password — NEW
ACTION: Upstream to diagnose and fix issue


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. gnome-calendar — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2135772 — NEW
Editing the recurring event freezes Calendar.

Fixing other recurring-event handling in Calendar reveals that the
handling in general is, as upstream calls it, "stupidly broken." In
short: with both (and only) weekly recurrence and "until date"
termination, editing a recurring event causes Calendar to crash.

2. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2136234 — ASSIGNED
No video on Raspberry Pi 4 with kernel 5.19.15 and 5.19.16 (testing)

Beginning with kernel 5.9.15, some users report no video on Raspberry
Pi 4 devices. This may be related to vc4 driver patches that were
backported to fix video on the Pi 3.


Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-control-center —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2136471 — NEW
Settings crashes when trying to edit WPA2 Enterprise wifi without a
stored password

Editing (but not creating) a WPA2 Enterprise wifi connection without a
stored password (e.g for authentication that uses tokens) causes
Control Center to freeze. The connection cannot be removed through the
GUI. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/1905


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Re: Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-10-18 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 8:54 PM Adam Williamson
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>
> Does anyone object to these proposed changes? Thanks!

Ship it!


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Re: F37 Final blocker status update

2022-10-14 Thread Ben Cotton
Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. abrt — Abrt does not report a segfault which is reported in
journalctl. — ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2022-7cf3cad7c7

2. glibc — glibc 2.36+ breaks EAC with removal of DT_HASH (and other
game libraries), making games fail to load — POST
ACTION: Maintainers to build update with simplified patch

3. gnome-calendar — Changes to recurring events don't redraw correctly
— VERIFIED
ACTION: (none)

4. gnome-calendar — Editing a recurring event moves it forward in time
— VERIFIED
ACTION: (none)

5. gnome-contacts — Link Contacts feature completely broken — MODIFIED
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2022-67067ed63e

6. kernel — kernel crash on a number of rockchip rk3399 devices on boot — ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2022-1a5b125ac6

Proposed blockers
-

(none)


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1.  abrt — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2128662 — ON_QA
Abrt does not report a segfault which is reported in journalctl.

A possible race condition caused abrt to fail to report segfaults.
Restarting the service caused abrt to work as expected. Update
FEDORA-2022-7cf3cad7c7 contains a candidate fix.

2. glibc — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2129358 — POST
glibc 2.36+ breaks EAC with removal of DT_HASH (and other game
libraries), making games fail to load

Not including DT_HASH data in glibc's ELF binaries causes Steam games
using Epic Games Easy Anti-Cheat software to fail to load the EAC
module. This was made a blocker by FESCo due to the reputational
impact it would have in the gaming community. Carlos is testing a
simplified version of a submitted patch.

3. gnome-calendar —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2132769 — VERIFIED
Changes to recurring events don't redraw correctly

Building off of RHBZ 2130977, edits to recurring events don't cause
the UI to re-render the events correctly. FEDORA-2022-d687a7f331
contains a verified fix.

4. gnome-calendar —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2132772 — VERIFIED
Editing a recurring event moves it forward in time

Applying a change to all events in a recurring series moves all events
forward in time. FEDORA-2022-d687a7f331 contains a verified fix

5. gnome-contacts —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130661 — MODIFIED
Link Contacts feature completely broken

Trying to link contacts yields unexpected behavior. Linking contacts
results in two identifcal contacts with the information from both
originals. After restarting Contacts, the original contacts are
restored to their original states. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/issues/247 .
FEDORA-2022-67067ed63e hides the functionality in the UI until it can
be fixed.

6. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2134177 — ON_QA
kernel crash on a number of rockchip rk3399 devices on boot

The USB2 module causes a kernel error on some rockchip devices.
FEDORA-2022-1a5b125ac6 contains a candidate fix.


Proposed blockers
-----

(none)


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Re: F37 Final blocker status update

2022-10-06 Thread Ben Cotton
 contact shows the card correctly if only
one field is edited. If the test edited two properties of the contact
(e.g. the email address and the phone number), the new email address
is shown, but the old phone number is shown - i.e. the phone number
change seems to be lost. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/issues/271

8. gnome-contacts — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130661 — NEW
Link Contacts feature completely broken

Trying to link contacts yields unexpected behavior. Linking contacts
results in two identifcal contacts with the information from both
originals. After restarting Contacts, the original contacts are
restored to their original states. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/issues/247

9. gnome-shell — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2131837 — NEW
On Screen Keyboard cannot type a space anywhere

The on-screen keyboard does not type space characters. It appears that
with the default typing-booster IM, space keys never reach the client.
Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/5930

Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-calendar — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2132769 — NEW
Changes to recurring events don't redraw correctly

Building off of RHBZ 2130977, edits to recurring events don't cause
the UI to re-render the events correctly. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/issues/881

2. gnome-calendar — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2132772 — NEW
Editing a recurring event moves it forward in time

Applying a change to all events in a recurring series moves all events
forward in time. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/issues/882

3. gnome-photos — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130937 — NEW
Memory exhaustion when editing a cropped photo

When changing the shadows or highlights on a cropped photos, Photos
consumes 100% CPU and uses all available memory until killed by the
OOMkiller. Recent discovery that this behavior exists in F36 has
caused a trend toward not blocking on this bug. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-photos/-/issues/205

4. gnome-software — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2132292 — ON_QA
rpm-ostree plugin refuses to update

A typo caused Software to offer a download button for rpm-ostree
updates, which does nothing, instead of the "Restart & Update" button,
which performs the update. FEDORA-2022-b53191498a contains a candidate
fix.

5. imsettings — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2131673 — ON_QA
Default GTK_IM_MODULE should be ibus in GNOME Xorg

In some locales, GTK_IM_MODULE is set to gtk-im-context-simple instead
of ibus. FEDORA-2022-d5a9bcdac5 contains a candidate fix.

6. mesa — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123998 — ASSIGNED
Mesa 22.2.0~rc3 is built without support for common video codecs,
missing mesa-va-drivers might cause issues

Some users have encountered a failure of GDM to launch, which is
solved by installing mesa-va-drivers. This may not be an issue with
the default install. We have not yet identified the specific
conditions which cause it to fail.

7. poppler — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124530 — ON_QA
CVE-2022-38784 poppler: integer overflow in JBIG2 decoder using malformed files

FEDORA-2022-fcb3b063a6 contains a build to fix the vulnerability.

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-10-04 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 6:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2022-10-05 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis
>At fedora-meetin...@irc.libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/
> Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/10144/

We will evaluate the following nominated bugs:

* [abrt] gnome-shell: clutter_actor_destroy_all_children():
gnome-shell killed by SIGABRT
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127826
* Systemd causes PC Speaker to emit a loud beep during
reboot/poweroff, after suspend&resume
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2129387

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Re: F37 Final blocker status update

2022-09-29 Thread Ben Cotton
ance
is duplicated, while previous instances are deleted and subsequent
instances are unchanged. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/issues/871

4. gnome-calendar — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130981 — NEW
Calendar does not delete events properly

Deleting a calendar event before the confirmation appears results in
events listed in certain views. After an application restart, the
events are back but cannot be deleted or edited. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-calendar/-/issues/858

5. gnome-contacts — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130657 — POST
Editing an existing contact's email address causes Contacts to display
an empty "Unnamed Person" card, other edits made at the same time are
lost

Clicking back on an edited contact shows the card correctly if only
one field is edited. If the test edited two properties of the contact
(e.g. the email address and the phone number), the new email address
is shown, but the old phone number is shown - i.e. the phone number
change seems to be lost. Upstream MR
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/merge_requests/213
contains a candidate fix.

6. gnome-contacts — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130661 — NEW
Link Contacts feature completely broken

Trying to link contacts yields unexpected behavior. Linking contacts
results in two identifcal contacts with the information from both
originals. After restarting Contacts, the original contacts are
restored to their original states.

7. gnome-photos — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130927 — NEW
Favorited photos from albums are shown as favorited only after app
restart or second attempt

Using the star button to mark a photo as a favorite is not reflected
until either the operation is performed again or Photos is restarted.
Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-photos/-/issues/204

8. gnome-photos — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2130937 — NEW
Memory exhaustion when editing a cropped photo

When changing the shadows or highlights on a cropped photos, Photos
consumes 100% CPU and uses all available memory until killed by the
OOMkiller. This may be related to a recent change in the Generic
Graphics Library (GEGL). Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-photos/-/issues/205

9. gnome-settings-daemon —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2128423 — POST
Default GTK_IM_MODULE should be ibus in GNOME Xorg

Trying to add a first input method in gnome-control-center does not
take effect until GNOME is restarted. This only affects X11 sessions.
Upstream MR contains a candidate fix:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-settings-daemon/-/merge_requests/309

10. nautilus — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127618 — NEW
Nautilus thumbnailing doesn't work on hidpi screens

When an image that does not already have a thumbnail, Nautilus has a
heavy CPU load while it is showing the directory. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/issues/2487



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Re: F37 Final blocker status update

2022-09-22 Thread Ben Cotton
Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. anaconda — Custom partitioning with 2 drives selected, bootloader
fails to install due to one drive not having a BIOS Boot partition —
ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2022-c20d42f3bc

2. gnome-initial-setup — Unable to set up enterprise account with
gnome-initial-setup, clicking continue does not join the domain —
VERIFIED
ACTION: (none)

3. gnome-shell — GNOME Initial Setup uses the English keyboard,
instead of the default keyboard — VERIFIED
ACTION: (none)

4. greenboot — greenboot-grub2-set-counter.service fails on 38 IoT
with "cannot open `/boot/grub2/grubenv.new`: No such file or
directory." — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

5. grub2 — Windows with bitlocker enabled can't be booted, needs to
use bootnext instead of chainloader — NEW
ACTION: QA to finalize updated criterion proposal

6. mesa — totem: nouveau_pushbuf_data(): totem killed by SIGABRT — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to update mesa with fixes for F37


Proposed blockers
-

1. abrt — Abrt does not report a segfault which is reported in
journalctl. — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

2. nautilus — Nautilus thumbnailing doesn't work on hidpi screens — NEW
ACTION: Upstream to diagnose issue


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. anaconda — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2088113 — ON_QA
Custom partitioning with 2 drives selected, bootloader fails to
install due to one drive not having a BIOS Boot partition

When using custom partitioning on two drives with /boot on a RAID 1
device, the installer only creates one BIOS boot. grub2-install is run
against both drives, but the second fails because it has no BIOS boot
partition. FEDORA-2022-c20d42f3bc contains a candidate fix.

2. gnome-initial-setup —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123494 — VERIFIED
Unable to set up enterprise account with gnome-initial-setup, clicking
continue does not join the domain

Initially the buttons were missing. Update FEDORA-2022-50e585b456
fixed that issue, however clicking the button does not joing the
domain. Instead, the user is returned to the domain credentials
screen, resulting in an endless loop. gnome-initial-setup-43.0-3.fc37
contains a verified fix.

3. gnome-shell — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121110 — ASSIGNED
GNOME Initial Setup uses the English keyboard, instead of the default keyboard

Regardless of the default keyboard setting, g-i-s uses the English
keyboard. Relatedly, new users have the English keyboard selected,
even though another language is shown as the default.
FEDORA-2022-b14944cb83 contains a verified fix.

4. greenboot — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121944 — NEW
greenboot-grub2-set-counter.service fails on 38 IoT with "cannot open
`/boot/grub2/grubenv.new`: No such file or directory."

greenboot service fails on a file-not-found error. This also results
in rebase tests failing because of conflicts with the rebase triggered
by the greenboot failure.

5. grub2 — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2049849 — NEW
Windows with bitlocker enabled can't be booted, needs to use bootnext
instead of chainloader

Dual-booting recent Windows 10 system with TPM 2.0 fails because
bitlocker can't be unsealed by the TPM. This was waived to F37 under
the "difficult to fix" exception. A proposed change to the release
criteria may exclude this from blocker status.

6. mesa — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123274 — NEW
totem: nouveau_pushbuf_data(): totem killed by SIGABRT

totem plays ~1 second of video and then crashes. This appears to
happen with all video formats. This appears to be an issue in
multithreading support in the nouveau driver, which is fixed upstream.
The fix is large and may not be suitable for backporting, but would be
available in a mesa-22.3 update.


Proposed blockers
-

1. abrt — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2128662 — ASSIGNED
Abrt does not report a segfault which is reported in journalctl.

In some circumstances (currently unclear), abrt does not report
segfaults. Restarting abrt-journal-core (including via reboot) causes
abrt to work correctly again.

2. nautilus — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127618 — NEW
Nautilus thumbnailing doesn't work on hidpi screens

No thumbnails are generated in the file manager on hidpi screens.
Other functionality works. Reported upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/-/issues/2487
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2022-09-16 Thread Ben Cotton
ause of conflicts with the rebase triggered
by the greenboot failure.

8. grub2 — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2049849 — NEW
Windows with bitlocker enabled can't be booted, needs to use bootnext
instead of chainloader

Dual-booting recent Windows 10 system with TPM 2.0 fails because
bitlocker can't be unsealed by the TPM. This was waived to F37 under
the "difficult to fix" exception. No additional updates have been
provided.

9. mesa — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123274 — NEW
totem: nouveau_pushbuf_data(): totem killed by SIGABRT

totem plays ~1 second of video and then crashes. This appears to
happen with all video formats. This appears to be an issue in
multithreading support in the nouveau driver, which is fixed upstream.
The fix is large and may not be suitable for backporting, but would be
available in a mesa-22.3 update.

10. uboot-tools — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2124127 — ON_QA
Regression booting Fedora on rockchip devices installed on PCIe NVME drives

uboot-tools introducted a regression when used with 5.19.x kernels.
FEDORA-2022-c1d9e8daa9 contains a candidate fix.

Proposed blockers
-

1. chrome-gnome-shell —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2106868 — NEW
Project name and source repository changed to gnome-browser-connector

Upstream has split this into two packages. Package review pending for
renamed package:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=2127314

2. gnome-shell — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2125439 — NEW
screencast doesn't record the top layer

Typing and popup windows don't show when recording a screencast. This
may be fixed in pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.57-1.

3. gnome-shell-extension-background-logo —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2127192 — NEW
Update gnome-shell-extension-background-logo to 43.0

The Fedora logo is not displayed and the package is not compatible
with gnome-shell 43.

4. systemd — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121106 — NEW
Czech qwerty layout configured in anaconda, but qwertz layout used in
disk unlock and in VT console

The wrong keymap is used when unlocking disks or virtual terminals. It
looks like this may have never worked. It looks like an issue with how
layouts are mapped between console and xkb. Adam is thinking about how
to approach this:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121106#c24

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Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora Linux 37 Beta Release Announcement

2022-09-16 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 7:27 PM Adam Williamson
 wrote:
>
> There's another issue we need to take care of here for Final: CoreOS is
> supposed to become an Edition for F37, and Cloud is supposed to return
> as one.
>
> Ideally this announcement should have included them alongside
> Workstation and Server somehow, but the Final announcement *definitely*
> needs to if we're considering them as editions.

That's on me, at least in part. I've submitted a PR for the Beta
template[1] and will make sure mattdm's Final announcement includes
it.

> That implies that we also need to work out how to present them on
> getfedora.org.

The Edition teams should be working with the Websites team to make
that happen. I'll check with them to see how that's progressing.

[1] https://pagure.io/releng/pull-request/11031

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Re: Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension install/remove to work

2022-09-13 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 3:35 PM Adam Williamson
 wrote:
>
> === GNOME extensions ===
>
> On Fedora Workstation, it must be possible to install and remove
> extensions by visiting https://extensions.gnome.org in the default web
> browser, after installing the required browser extension.
>
> #
>
> Do folks think this is important enough to block Final release on?

Assuming the desktop folks don't say "OMG there's no way we could
handle this", then I'm on board with making this a final criterion.
This is one of those "we'll get dragged in reviews if it doesn't work"
sorts of things.

The wording looks good to me. I'm trying to think of an escape hatch
we can give ourselves if it goes particularly sideways at some point,
but maybe the "difficult to fix" exception would be good enough.

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Re: F37 Beta blocker status email

2022-09-02 Thread Ben Cotton
The Go/No-Go meeting for the early F37 Beta target date is Thursday.

Action summary


Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-initial-setup — Unable to set up enterprise account with
gnome-initial-setup due to missing buttons — NEW
ACTION: Upstream to diagnose and fix issue

2. kernel — Kernel panics during boot when laptop connected to a usb-c
dock — NEW
ACTION: Testers to identify the scope of affected hardware,
maintainers to diagnose issue.

3. kernel — kernel regression causing mdraid systems to hang during
reboot — ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2022-ccb0138bb6

Bug-by-bug detail
=

Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-initial-setup —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2123494 — NEW
Unable to set up enterprise account with gnome-initial-setup due to
missing buttons

The g-i-s dialog for connecting to enterprise authentication does not
display the "continue" or "cancel" buttons. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-initial-setup/-/issues/152

2. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2119305 — NEW
Kernel panics during boot when laptop connected to a usb-c dock

Recent kernels are failing on some hardware when connected to a USB-C
dock. The scope of hardware affected is unclear.

3. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121791 — ON_QA
kernel regression causing mdraid systems to hang during reboot

Beginning with commit a09b314005f3 (in 5.19-rc4), software raid
devices would result in an unbounded wait for reboot. This is observed
across multiple Fedora Linux releases. FEDORA-2022-ccb0138bb6 contains
a candidate fix.

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Re: Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-08-30 Thread Ben Cotton
From my perspective, anything that blocks the release is on the
critical path. So any time there's a violation of the release criteria
and the package is not on the critical path definition, that's a bug
in the definition.

I recognize that this is a somewhat naïve view. For one, it may
broaden the definition beyond the current capacity of our test
infrastructure. It also may broaden the definition beyond what
maintainers are willing to put up with. These are both legitimate
problems. But the closer we can get to this ideal state, the better.

For anyone who is curious, I just searched for all accepted blockers
in the "Fedora" product in Bugzilla. 327 components have been a
blocker at least once. Some of those may no longer be blocking and
others will be added over time as our criteria change. The full list
with counts is at
https://bcotton.fedorapeople.org/release-blocking-components.csv if
you're interested.

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Re: F37 Beta blocker status email

2022-08-26 Thread Ben Cotton
Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. osinfo-db — failed to install server iso with virt-install due to
the missing of isolinux in the media — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to create update with upstream MR 501

2. sddm — Logout from KDE session on Rawhide goes to console, not SDDM
— ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

Proposed blockers
-

1. distribution — "dnf update" runs out of memory on swapless machines
with 1G or less of RAM — ASSIGNED
ACTION: mattdm to coordinate long-term solution

2. openssl-pkcs11 — dnssec-keyfromlabel fails with
openssl-pkcs11-0.4.12-1.fc36 — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

3. rpm-ostree — Failing services in new Fedora IoT installations with
RO /sysroot — NEW
ACTION: IoT to apply PR #8

Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. osinfo-db — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2103835 — NEW
failed to install server iso with virt-install due to the missing of
isolinux in the media

virt-install fails because there's no isolinux path, where it looks
for vmlinuz and initrd.img . Upstream merge request 501 contains a
candidate fix. This should allow us to see if RHBZ 2119633 also
affects F37.

2. sddm — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2110801 — NEW
Logout from KDE session on Rawhide goes to console, not SDDM

After logging out of KDE Plasma, you end up at a console on tty2. SDDM
had been running on tty1 but just shows a flashing cursor. Update
FEDORA-2022-8456442870 reverted sddm back to X11, however the lastest
compose appears to still be using Wayland.

Proposed blockers
-

1. distribution — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1907030 — NEW
"dnf update" runs out of memory on swapless machines with 1G or less of RAM

dnf is killed by oom-kill on machines with 512 MB of RAM. Adding a
swap disk or disabling the updates repo works around this issue.
Recently, FCOS has seen this behavior with 1 GB VMs. The issue appears
to be the size of the metadata for the repository. mattdm is going to
coordinate a long-term solution for this.

2. openssl-pkcs11 — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2115865 — NEW
dnssec-keyfromlabel fails with openssl-pkcs11-0.4.12-1.fc36

Tests in openQA cannot resolve kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org. Previous
F37 build (openssl-pkcs11-0.4.12-1.fc37) behaves as expected. The
corresponding versions both work on F36. Disabling dnssec on the
server is a workaround.

3. rpm-ostree — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121197 — NEW
Failing services in new Fedora IoT installations with RO /sysroot

The switch to read-only /sysroot results in IoT tests with many
failing services. https://pagure.io/fedora-iot/ostree/pull-request/8
contains a candidate fix.

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Re: F37 Beta blocker status email

2022-08-19 Thread Ben Cotton
Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. kde-settings — KDE needs to pick up F37 backgrounds — ON_QA
ACTION: None

2. sddm — Logout from KDE session on Rawhide goes to console, not SDDM — POST
ACTION: Maintainers to build package with X11 by default

Proposed blockers
-

1. anaconda — Anaconda will not start F37 Raw — NEW
ACTION: Reporter to provide requested log files
NEEDINFO: aalmeleh.whatever.0101

2. dnf — "dnf update" runs out of memory on swapless 0.5 GiB RAM machine — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to investigate short-term dnf improvements
NEEDINFO: jmracek

3. openssl-pkcs11 — FreeIPA client enrollment fails due to DNS issues
with openssl-pkcs11-0.4.12-2.fc37 — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

4. osinfo-db — failed to install server iso with virt-install due to
the missing of isolinux in the media — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. kde-settings — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2117706 — ON_QA
KDE needs to pick up F37 backgrounds

New desktop backgrounds require a new KDE settings update. Fixed in
FEDORA-2022-fe8729bced.

2. sddm — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2110801 — NEW
Logout from KDE session on Rawhide goes to console, not SDDM

After logging out of KDE Plasma, you end up at a console on tty2. SDDM
had been running on tty1 but just shows a flashing cursor. This
appears to be specific to Wayland, so a PR is pending to revert to and
X11 default.

Proposed blockers
-

1. anaconda — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2101229 — NEW
Anaconda will not start F37 Raw

Neither clicking the desktop icon nor the taskbar icon will launch
anaconda. openQA is not experiencing this. Using basic graphics mode
results in the expected behavior.

2. dnf — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1907030 — NEW
"dnf update" runs out of memory on swapless 0.5 GiB RAM machine

dnf is killed by oom-kill on machines with 512 MB of RAM. Adding a
swap disk or disabling the updates repo works around this issue.
Recently, FCOS has seen this behavior with 1 GB VMs. The issue appears
to be the size of the metadata for the repository. The short term
fixes look like they may need to be made on the repo side, not in dnf.

3. openssl-pkcs11 — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2117859 — NEW
FreeIPA client enrollment fails due to DNS issues with
openssl-pkcs11-0.4.12-2.fc37

Tests in openQA cannot resolve kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org. Previous
F37 build (openssl-okcs11-0.4.12-1.fc37) behaves as expected. The
corresponding versions both work on F36. Disabling dnssec on the
server is a workaround.

4. osinfo-db — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2103835 — NEW
failed to install server iso with virt-install due to the missing of
isolinux in the media

virt-install fails because there's no isolinux path, where it looks
for vmlinuz and initrd.img . An upstream fix has been released in F35,
F36, and F37 updates, but it does not appear to fully solve the
problem on F37 and Rawhide. See also RHBZ 2119633.

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F37 Beta blocker status email

2022-08-11 Thread Ben Cotton
With F37 now branched from Rawhide, it's time to pick up our weekly
blocker status emails!

Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. kde-settings — KDE needs to pick up F37 backgrounds — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to make new kde-settings build

Proposed blockers
-

1. anaconda — Anaconda crashed on signal 11 - keyboard layout
encryption password prompt — ON_QA
ACTION: QA, reporter to verify anaconda-37.12-1
NEEDINFO: doug.hs

2. anaconda — Anaconda will not start F37 Raw — NEW
ACTION: Reporter to provide requested log files
NEEDINFO: aalmeleh.whatever.0101

3. dnf — "dnf update" runs out of memory on swapless 0.5 GiB RAM machine — NEW
ACTION: Manitainers to investigate short-term dnf improvements
NEEDINFO: jmracek

4. dracut — Media check fails with checkisomd5 "service failed because
the control process exited with error code" — POST
ACTION: Maintainers to build with upstream PR

5. polkit — Switching users in Gnome results in polkitd errors that
prevent powering off the computer. — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

6. sddm — Logout from KDE session on Rawhide goes to console, not SDDM — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. kde-settings — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2117706 — NEW
KDE needs to pick up F37 backgrounds

New desktop backgrounds require a new KDE settings update.

Proposed blockers
-

1. anaconda — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2070823 — ON_QA
Anaconda crashed on signal 11 - keyboard layout encryption password prompt

Clicking the keyboard layout button in the LUKS decryption popup
crashes anaconda. anaconda-37.12-1 contains a candidate fix.

2. anaconda — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2101229 — NEW
Anaconda will not start F37 Raw

Neither clicking the desktop icon nor the taskbar icon will launch
anaconda. openQA is not experiencing this. Using basic graphics mode
results in the expected behavior.

3. dnf — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1907030 — NEW
"dnf update" runs out of memory on swapless 0.5 GiB RAM machine

dnf is killed by oom-kill on machines with 512 MB of RAM. Adding a
swap disk or disabling the updates repo works around this issue.
Recently, FCOS has seen this behavior with 1 GB VMs. The issue appears
to be the size of the metadata for the repository. The short term
fixes look like they may need to be made on the repo side, not in dnf.

4. dracut — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2107858 — POST
Media check fails with checkisomd5 "service failed because the control
process exited with error code"

Media check fails on certain hardware. Skipping the media check
results in a successful boot. Upstream PR #1882 contains a candidate
fix: https://github.com/dracutdevs/dracut/pull/1882

5. polkit — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2109145 — ASSIGNED
Switching users in Gnome results in polkitd errors that prevent
powering off the computer.

Under certain conditions (including but not limited to several user
switches), the power off button disappears from the GNOME menu due to
a polkitd error. `systemctl poweroff -i` as an unprivileged user does
not work. It may be an issue with using the duktape JS engine instead
of mozjs91. polkit-121-3 reverts to mozjs91, but is not a sufficient
fix.

6. sddm — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2110801 — NEW
Logout from KDE session on Rawhide goes to console, not SDDM

After logging out of KDE Plasma, you end up at a console on tty2. SDDM
had been running on tty1 but just shows a flashing cursor.


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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-08-09 Thread Ben Cotton
A rather important scheduling conflict has arisen, so there will be no
prioritized bugs meeting this week.

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-08-09 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 6:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2022-08-10 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis
>At fedora-meetin...@irc.libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/

We will evaluate the following nominated bug (which is ON_QA, so it
should be quick):
* update 2.06-45 breaks windows boot manager
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2115202

And discuss the resolution of the following accepted bug:
* Get rid of multiple source path definitions
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2079833

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-06-14 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 6:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2022-06-15 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis
>At fedora-meetin...@irc.libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/

We will review the following nominated bugs:

* Connecting/disconnecting an external monitor or VM resizing switches
GNOME to the login screen
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2071394
* Get rid of multiple source path definitions
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2079833


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Interested in an updated "Exploring Our Bugs" talk at Nest?

2022-05-24 Thread Ben Cotton
At Nest With Fedora last year, I presented a talk called "Exploring
Our Bugs"[1]. In this talk, I took a look at some summary data about
Fedora Linux bugs since F19. I'm considering proposing this for Nest
2022. The new talk would mostly be an update with bugs up through F34,
but if there were particular topics to dig into, I'm open to
suggestions.

If there's something that last year's talk left unanswered that you
want me to dig into, please let me know off-list.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9NWVYTXj_I

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Re: F36 release retrospective

2022-05-16 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, May 16, 2022 at 1:03 PM Ben Cotton  wrote:
>
> If you missed the announcement at the release party, the F36 release
> retrospective survey is now open:
> https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/231354

Whoops! That's the F35 link. The correct survey link is
https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/36

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F36 release retrospective

2022-05-16 Thread Ben Cotton
If you missed the announcement at the release party, the F36 release
retrospective survey is now open:
https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/231354

It should only take a few moments of your time. No matter how you
participated in the development and release of F36, I'd like your
input. (Remember, this is about the process of producing F36, not the
end result.) If you have any questions, please let me know. If you
have suggestions for the next time around, there's a field for that in
the survey!

The survey is open through 27 May. As I did for F35[1], I'll share
results on the Community Blog in June..

[1] https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/f35-retrospective-results/

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Re: F36 Final blocker status summary

2022-04-29 Thread Ben Cotton
On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 2:41 PM Ben Cotton  wrote:
>
> We are now targeting target date #2 (2022-05-10). If we slip again, we
> won't release until after the Release Party!

That should be target date #3, of course. The date is still 2022-05-10.

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Re: F36 Final blocker status summary

2022-04-29 Thread Ben Cotton
We are now targeting target date #2 (2022-05-10). If we slip again, we
won't release until after the Release Party!

Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. selinux-policy — After upgrade to F36 several packages fail to
update due to selinux-related errors — ON_QA
ACTION: Cross your fingers that users fully update prior to upgrade

2. gnome-photos — pictures in Pictures folder aren't shown in the Photos — NEW
ACTION: Upstream to diagnose and fix issue

3. gnome-photos — A new album looks empty until app restart — NEW
ACTION: Upstream to diagnose and fix issue

4. wpa_supplicant — Connection to wireless network fails without
explanation when other end does not support secure renegotiation — NEW
ACTION: wpa_supplicant maintainers to add a wpa-supplicant specific
openssl.cnf file which contains the necessary configuration changes

Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-contacts — Contact deletion is unreliable — NEW
ACTION: Upstream to diagnose and fix issue


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. selinux-policy — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2056303 — ON_QA
After upgrade to F36 several packages fail to update due to
selinux-related errors

selinux-policy updates to address this are in F34, F35, and F36. The
blocking behavior is fixed, however the concern is that anyone who
tries to upgrade from a not-fully-updated F35 may encounter SELinux
problems post-upgrade. Although our documentation instructs users to
update, graphical updaters do not display this recommendation. The
additional week due to the slip will hopefully reduce the number of
people affected.

2. gnome-photos — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2079308 — NEW
pictures in Pictures folder aren't shown in the Photos

Photos added to ~/Pictures don't always show up until the GNOME
session is restarted. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-photos/-/issues/196

3. gnome-photos — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2079344 — NEW
A new album looks empty until app restart

If you add pictures to a new album, the album shows as empty until
PHotos is restarted. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-photos/-/issues/197

4. wpa_supplicant — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2072070 — NEW
Connection to wireless network fails without explanation when other
end does not support secure renegotiation

Authentication fails with certain enterprise WiFi networks that do not
support resure renegotiation. An OpenSSL config file specifically for
wpa_supplicant which sets SSL_OP_LEGACY_SERVER_CONNECT would be a
short-term fix as described in
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2072070#c24 .

Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-contacts — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2079274 — NEW
Contact deletion is unreliable

Deleting a contact appears to be successful, but takes time on the
backend so if a user closes the application shortly after deleting the
contact, it's not actually deleted and will appear the next time
Contacts is launched. Filed upstream as
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-contacts/-/issues/241

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F36 testing needed: cloud-on-real-cloud

2022-04-29 Thread Ben Cotton
Hello, my cloudy friends,

Adam noted in yesterday's Go/No-Go meeting that we're short on test
coverage with Cloud images on real clouds. We'll have a new RC coming
in a few days to address some outstanding blockers, but in the
meantime, if we could start filling in the test matrix[1], I expect
most tests should carry over just fine.

As a reminder, our next go/no-go meeting is Thursday 5 May.

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Cloud_Test

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Test request: Gnome Text Editor infinite loop (RHBZ 2071228)

2022-04-26 Thread Ben Cotton
Hi folks,

I saw RHBZ 2071228 [1] proposed as a freeze exception, but it looks
blockery to me. The report specifically mentions the fa_IR locale. It
would be very helpful for the purposes of blocker decision to know if
the problem is specific to that locale or if others are affected.

I've tried to reproduce it using the steps in the bug, but I haven't
been able to. That could be entirely a Me Problem™ though.


[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2071228

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Re: F36 Final blocker status summary

2022-04-22 Thread Ben Cotton
Action summary


Accepted blockers
-

1. selinux-policy — gnome-initial-setup hangs when I try to setup a
google/microsoft online account — VERIFIED
ACTION: none

2. container-selinux — selinux-policy is preventing flatpak from
updating / installing / removing flatpaks — ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify upgrades work reliably with FEDORA-2022-c5bee6b70f

3. selinux-policy — After upgrade to F36 several packages fail to
update due to selinux-related errors — ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify blocking behavior is fixed

4. plasma-desktop —
pyanaconda.modules.common.errors.installation.StorageInstallationError:
device is active — ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify live sessions behave as expected
NEEDINFO: fzatl...@redhat.com

Proposed blockers
-

NONE


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-

1. selinux-policy —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2071259 — VERIFIED
gnome-initial-setup hangs when I try to setup a google/microsoft online account

Setting up a Google or Microsoft account causes g-i-s to apparently
hang, although tty switching works. This appears to be an SELinux
policy issue. FEDORA-2022-76963fee71 contains a verified fix.

2. container-selinux —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2070764 — ON_QA
selinux-policy is preventing flatpak from updating / installing /
removing flatpaks

SELinux prevents flatpak from accessing a variety of
files/directories, including `/etc/passwd` and
`/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share`. This, in turn, prevents flatpak from
modifying flatpaks on the system. FEDORA-2022-c5bee6b70f  has a
potential fix, but it's unclear if it solves the problem in full.

3. selinux-policy — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2056303 — ON_QA
After upgrade to F36 several packages fail to update due to
selinux-related errors

selinux-policy updates to address this are in F34, F35, and F36. It's
unclear if there are still blocking behaviors associated with this
bug.

4. plasma-desktop — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2073708 — ON_QA
pyanaconda.modules.common.errors.installation.StorageInstallationError:
device is active

KDE Plasma attempted to auto-mount certain hard drives during the live
session, preventing anaconda from using the disks in an installation.
Adam made an update to fedora-kickstarts that disables this on live
sessions.

Proposed blockers
-

NONE


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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-04-19 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Apr 19, 2022 at 6:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2022-04-20 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis
>At fedora-meetin...@irc.libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/

We will discuss the following nominated (with fix pending) bug:

* kexec-tools built with gcc 12 will fail kexec/kdump jumping to 2nd
kernel with kexec_load interface
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2057391

And check on the following accepted bug:

* Lenovo ThinkPad T490, unable to boot following clean install, stuck
at splash screen
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1955416

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Re: F36 Final blocker status summary

2022-04-14 Thread Ben Cotton
org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/2333

8. fedora-repos — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2073950 — VERIFIED
disable updates-testing, create a final release

FEDORA-2022-bda822f1ae contains a verified fix.

9. gnome-software — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2074121 — NEW
Enabling "Fedora Flathub Selection" repo doesn't show included apps in
gnome-software until re-login

You have to re-login or reboot to show applications from the filtered
Flathub repo. All other third-party repos work as expected. This
appears to be a cache error. Upstream MR
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/merge_requests/1325
has a candidate fix.

10. selinux-policy —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2056303 — ASSIGNED
After upgrade to F36 several packages fail to update due to
selinux-related errors

Some container-related packages have references to SELinux socket
classes that no longer exist. container-selinux, osbuild, snapd,
flatpak need to be rebuilt against the newest selinux-policy.

11. spin-kickstarts — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2073708 — NEW
pyanaconda.modules.common.errors.installation.StorageInstallationError:
device is active

KDE Plasma automounts storage devices in the live image, causing
Anaconda to fail when trying to modifiy a disk with an existing
logical volume. Disabling automount in the KDE automount settings
prevents this.

Proposed blockers
-

1. xorg-x11-server — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2074789 — NEW
Basic graphics mode broken for X11 with Nvidia GPU and UEFI

The vesa driver checks for the presence of a directory that no longer
exists since the switch to simpledrm in this release. Upstream MR
contains a candidate fix
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-vesa/-/merge_requests/5


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Re: F36 Final blocker status summary

2022-04-08 Thread Ben Cotton
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2063156 — NEW
Workstation Live is frozen in a VM with QXL video driver (Virtio works OK)

VMs that initially use the QXL driver appears frozen. Using virtio
(including to switching to QXL after?) avoids this. KDE Lives do not
display (heh) this behavior, not does using `nomodeset`.
FEDORA-2022-fec53b10e3 has a workaround, which removed this as an
accepted blocker.

2. selinux-policy — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2070764 — ON_QA
selinux-policy is preventing flatpak from updating / installing /
removing flatpaks

SELinux prevents flatpak from accessing a variety of
files/directories, including `/etc/passwd` and
`/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share`. This, in turn, prevents flatpak from
modifying flatpaks on the system. FEDORA-2022-ee2ba7ba12 contains a
candidate fix.

3. gnome-connections —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2072445 — VERIFIED
GNOME Connections window can't be moved or (un)maximized while a
remote desktop is displayed

When you connect to a remote desktop (through RDP or VNC), you can no
longer move or resize the gnome-connections window.
FEDORA-2022-4f7e9dc2fb contains a verified fix.

4. gnome-connections —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2072462 — ASSIGNED
Saved entries can't be deleted in GNOME Connections

Saved entries are apparently removed, but reappear the next time the
application starts. FEDORA-2022-4f7e9dc2fb contains a fix which allows
removal of a single entry, but when removing multiple entries, only
the last one is successfully removed.

5. gnome-connections —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2072490 — VERIFIED
Reconnection in GNOME Connections fails and removes RDP credentials

Connection credentials are not preserved between connections.
FEDORA-2022-4f7e9dc2fb contains a verified fix.

6. gnome-connections —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2072513 — VERIFIED
[abrt] gnome-connections: frdp_session_configure_event():
gnome-connections killed by SIGSEGV

Connecting to a server, another server, and then the first server
again causes gnome-connections to crash. FEDORA-2022-4f7e9dc2fb
contains a verified fix.

7. gnome-control-center —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2068470 — NEW
online accounts: can't disable sync on items

Attempting to disable sync on items in Online Accounts appears to
succeed, but sync still shows as enabled on re-launch. Reported
upstream as https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/issues/1721

8. gnome-shell — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2073206 — NEW
interrupted dimming partly locks window switching

Typing or using the mouse while the screen begins blanking results in
the screen being unresponsive to mouse input. Keyboard input still
works.

9. gnome-software — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2073353 — NEW
RPM repos can't be disabled in GNOME Software after F35->F36 upgrade

All RPM repos are force enabled and cannot be disabled after upgrade
from F35 to F36. New installs of F36 do not exhibit this behavior.

10. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2053729 — VERIFIED
RPi4 wired network fails - eth0 (bcmgenet): transmit queue 1 timed
out, due to gcc12 inline assembly miscompilation

Networking on the Raspberry Pi 4 fails. FEDORA-2022-af492757d9
contains a verified fix.

11. mutter — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2071226 — NEW
anaconda failed to start a live session on a VM with QXL video driver
(Virtio works OK)
Similar to RHBZ 2061356, Anaconda cannot start a live GNOME session
(KDE Plasma works). This is only an issue for the QXL driver.
FEDORA-2022-fec53b10e3 provides a workaround for F35, but this bug is
still a blocker candidate since it's possible that GNOME Boxes would
fall back to QXL.

12. wpa_supplicant — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2072070 — NEW
F36 Silverblue won't connect to WPA2 Enterprise network (PEAP + MSChapv2)

Connecting to a WPA2 Enterprise wi-fi network fails. Adding the
UnsafeLegacyRenegotiation in openssl.cnf allows the network connection
to succeed.

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Re: Make Flatpak support explicit

2022-04-08 Thread Ben Cotton
On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 6:05 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> Anyone else, thoughts on listing Flatpak explicitly in [0]?

My interpretation is that Flatpak is already covered implicitly, in
the same way that RPMs are. The careful reader will notice that "rpm"
doesn't appear there except in "rpm-ostree", but no one would argue
that the criterion doesn't cover managing RPMs. That said, there's
some benefit to being explicit. I suppose my take is "sure, I guess."



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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-04-05 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Apr 5, 2022 at 6:07 AM  wrote:
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We will review the following nominated bugs

* flathub filtered repo seems missing from F35 install
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011274

* kexec-tools built with gcc 12 will fail kexec/kdump jumping to 2nd
kernel with kexec_load interface
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2057391

* online accounts: can't disable sync on items
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2068470

* kernels newer than 5.15.11-200.fc35 cause libgpiod to issue "Unknown
error 517"
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2060490

* GDM login screen does not display all users
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2021839


If we have time, we'll also review the status of the current accepted bugs:

* SELinux preventing systemd-network-generator from creating files in
/run/systemd/network/
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2037047

* Lenovo ThinkPad T490, unable to boot following clean install, stuck
at splash screen
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1955416

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Re: F36 Final blocker status summary

2022-04-01 Thread Ben Cotton
c graphics mode broken for KDE BIOS mode, screen goes black in minutes

Related to 2067151, basic graphics mode fails unrecoverably when using
KDE Plasma on BIOS. Xorg is materially unchanged from F35 (which
works). The vesa driver was updated on F36, but using the new vesa
version on F35 still works, so it appears to not be the issue.

Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-control-center —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2063410 — NEW
Printer setting: can't scroll media size list

The scrolling behavior on the media size list is unintuitive, which
means users may not be able to select the appropriate media size when
trying to print. An upstream merge request exists, but may not be
merged until GNOME 43:
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-control-center/-/merge_requests/1268

2. gnome-control-center —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2064462 — ON_QA
X11: Failed to create foreign window for XID 0: clicking on already
set up account in settings > online accounts does not open a new pop
up window to show account sync settings

The sync settings dialog for existing accounts does now show up when
glicking the account in Online Accounts. FEDORA-2022-67fa3533bf
contains a candidate fix.

3. hplip — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2066528 — NEW
Cannot print except when rebooting computer after upgrade from F35 ->
after recommended manual intervention, now cannot print except after
turning off printer and then printing a blank page in LibreOffice

Print jobs enqueue until the next time the computer boots, at which
time they successfully print. This appears to be due to a breakage
when the device supports IPP-over-USB and is currently installed with
a "classic" print driver. See
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/BISRSRAUSMMKK34UBAGP44QL7MPZ74GI/

4. libdnf — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2068773 — NEW
systemd-oomd kills rpm-ostree when installing a package on Fedora IoT
36 on the Raspberry Pi Zero 2 W

Devices with 512 MB of RAM cannot install updates via `dnf upgrade` or
`rpm-ostree`. This is a regression from previous versions (last
known-good version currently unknown).

5. qemu — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2070066 — POST
VMs hang when trying to access virtiofs mounts in the guest VM

Mounting between guest and host using virtiofs causes VMs to hang. A
patch for the spec file with a candidate fix is available:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/qemu/pull-request/22

6. selinux-policy — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2070764 — NEW
selinux-policy is preventing flatpak from updating / installing /
removing flatpaks

SELinux prevents flatpak from accessing a variety of
files/directories, including `/etc/passwd` and
`/var/lib/flatpak/exports/share`. This, in turn, prevents flatpak from
modifying flatpaks on the system.

7. xdg-desktop-portal-gnome —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2068041 — MODIFIED
xdg-desktop-portal-gnome: wl_proxy_get_version():
xdg-desktop-portal-gnome killed by SIGSEGV

Attempting to download a file in a Chromium-based browser causes the
file picker to crash on Xwayland. FEDORA-2022-f8681a48e6 contains a
candidate fix, however it may be incomplete. The process crash is
gone, but an error message is displayed and the save window expands to
full screen.

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Re: Spreading test responsibilities to other teams

2022-03-30 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 12:05 AM Sudhir Dharanendraiah
 wrote:
>
> I agree with the intent. This has been a topic of discussion within the 
> Fedora QA team for a while now and we have made some efforts to engage SIGs 
> early in the cycle.

Oh, great! I must have missed those conversations. If there's anything
I can do to help from a program management perspective, please let me
know.

> As far as the question of when the testing should be a focus from respective 
> SIGs? In my humble opinion, it should be continuous and should be a priority 
> in their respective upstream. SIGs start testing during RC will act as a 
> helping hand but it won't prevent late findings of issue.

I totally agree in theory. In practice, a lot of contributors are
volunteers. I'd love to get to the point where the testing is
continuous, but getting them to test the RCs more would be an
improvement over where we are now.

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:12 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if those mentioned parties read this list and will respond :-) 
> But yes, in general, it would be nice to see more people from various SIGs to 
> get involved.

I assume everyone has all of the mailing lists beamed directly into
their brain. :-D But yeah, I wanted to start the conversation within
the QA team to figure out how we can rope them in before we engage
with the SIGs. For example, do the RC announcements (e.g. [1]) go to
the right places? I see some SIGs receive it, but Cloud doesn't seem
to. And there's no clear call-to-action for the SIGs. That could be a
low-effort way to potentially improve engagement from SIGs.

[1] 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/3N5LMPVXXVVCLWXMWGLLVUNDX5WRR2OL/

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Spreading test responsibilities to other teams

2022-03-28 Thread Ben Cotton
Hi friends,

I was a little concerned that we were running some tests during the
Go/No-Go last week, especially considering it seemed like we had most
of the blockers wrapped up well ahead of when we normally do. Part of
the answer, in my opinion, is to lean on some of the SIGs/WGs to take
a more active role in the testing process for RCs and the period
leading up to RCs.

In particular, I'd like to see the Server WG taking care of the Active
Directory tests (which is a non-trivial thing to remove our dependence
on sgallagh's setup, admittedly) and the Cloud SIG taking care of many
of those tests. The fact that we didn't have any AWS AMIs uploaded
until after the meeting started suggests there's a gap in our process.
And of course, pwhalen and coremodule could always use more support in
running ARM tests.

This isn't a criticism of the QA team, because y'all do a tremendous
job. And I don't want to suggest that _all_ of the testing be pushed
out onto other teams. But I'd like to start a conversation on how we
can spread the responsibility out more. This should hopefully make
everyone's life a little easier and make our Go/No-Go meetings more
efficient to boot.

Thoughts?

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F36 Final blocker status summary

2022-03-25 Thread Ben Cotton
r if these are the same or
separate issues. All combinations work as expected in F35.

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Re: F36 Beta blocker status summary

2022-03-18 Thread Ben Cotton
Action summary


Accepted blockers
-
1. anaconda — When running anaconda on Wayland with two keyboard
layouts configured, hitting any modifier key with the second layout
selected switches to the first layout — ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2022-840ea87072


Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-software — Fedora 34 cannot be upgraded to Fedora 36 with
Gnome Software — VERIFIED
ACTION: none

Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-
1.  anaconda — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016613 — ON_QA
When running anaconda on Wayland with two keyboard layouts configured,
hitting any modifier key with the second layout selected switches to
the first layout

adamwill's research shows that this bug has existed since F25, but
became more visible after KDE switched to Wayland by default. This bug
was deferred to F36 Beta under the "too hard to fix" exception. Update
FEDORA-2022-840ea87072 contains a candidate fix.


Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-software —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2064623 — VERIFIED
Fedora 34 cannot be upgraded to Fedora 36 with Gnome Software

Under some conditions, setting show-upgrade-prerelease does not result
in Software showing an available update. Reproducing has been spotty,
and there's an emerging consensus that if this is a bug, it's better
suited as a Final blocker.

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Re: Proposal: Explicitly allow Council to waive Edition self-identification

2022-03-15 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 5:33 PM Matthew Miller  wrote:
>
> FESCo has a "make this a blocker" button... I kind of feel an itch for a
> generalized "sometimes stuff comes up" lever that goes the _other_
> direction, rather than a very specific carve-out.

Like Adam, I fear we'd be too tempted to use it as a "YOLO, ship it!"
button. It wouldn't happen right away, but slowly, we'd become more
comfortable with waiving more things. I think there are more likely to
be cases where we'd want to block on things (e.g. "wow, this bug will
be really embarrassing when reviewers find it, but it doesn't actually
violate any criteria") arbitrarily than cases where we'd wave. In the
"this should be a blocker, actually" case, we can lean on FESCo to use
their blocker power to apply it, so I don't think Council needs an
explicit authority there. We already have exceptions to allow some
blockers to be waived, and I think most of the ones we'd want to waive
could be handled under those.

Also, as a group we're pretty good at word lawyering when we set our
minds to it, so we can find ways to say "this bug does not violate a
very specific interpretation of the criteria" if it comes down to it.
:-)

> We wouldn't be here if I (well, the Council, but I'll go ahead and say
> specifically _me_) had made sure we'd done the proper followup around Cloud
> "de-editioning" several years ago, and I don't think there's likely to be a
> case where this new policy is actually ever used again — if there is, that'd
> signal another failure.

At the risk of being too pedantic, I want to point out that this is
not a new policy. The only reason we're having this discussion is
because I was going to just make it happen but I asked Adam about his
preferences on the mechanics of it. I argued (correctly, of course)
that the Council always had this authority implicitly because it
decides what is and is not an Edition. And I think that's why we saw
no pushback on the list, in the QA meeting, or in the Blocker Review
meeting. Everyone understands that this makes sense. But for the
purposes of release criteria, it's better to be explicit than
implicit.

We're not adding a new feature here. We're fixing a bug so that we get
the expected behavior in an exceptional case.

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Re: F36 Beta blocker status summary

2022-03-11 Thread Ben Cotton
Action summary


Accepted blockers
-
1. anaconda — When running anaconda on Wayland with two keyboard
layouts configured, hitting any modifier key with the second layout
selected switches to the first layout — POST
ACTION: Maintainers to package upstream PR #3912

2. fedora-release — fedora-release-identity-cloud says "Cloud
Edition", Cloud has not been an edition for years — ASSIGNED
ACTION: none

3. mutter — GNOME doesn't accept input from wireless keyboard if
there's not another "keyboard" input available — ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2022-21d81706cd

4. firefox — f36 composes still have firefox 96, f34 f35 have firefox 97 — ON_QA
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2022-42ea499a7d


Proposed blockers
-

1. mutter — Workstation Live is frozen in a VM with QXL video driver
(Virtio works OK) — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose and fix issue

2. selinux-policy — SELinux preventing systemd-network-generator from
creating files in /run/systemd/network/ — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainers to update policy to fix issue


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-
1.  anaconda — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016613 — POST
When running anaconda on Wayland with two keyboard layouts configured,
hitting any modifier key with the second layout selected switches to
the first layout

adamwill's research shows that this bug has existed since F25, but
became more viisble after KDE switched to Wayland by default. This bug
was deferred to F36 Beta under the "too hard to fix" exception.
jkonecny is working on  a fix to disconnect keyboard control between
Anaconda and the live environment. Upstream PR
https://github.com/rhinstaller/anaconda/pull/3912 has a candidate fix.

2. fedora-release —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2018271 — ASSIGNED
fedora-release-identity-cloud says "Cloud Edition", Cloud has not been
an edition for years

Waived from F35 final under the "late blocker exception." Cloud WG is
working on a proposal to re-promote Cloud to Edition status, but that
will not happen for F36 release cycle. Council voted to waive this. An
update to the release criterion is pending that explicitly grants
Council the ability to do that.

3. mutter — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2017043 — ON_QA
GNOME doesn't accept input from wireless keyboard if there's not
another "keyboard" input available

On some hardware, devices with multiple capabilities that include
keyboard do not get registered as a keyboard. Thus they only work if
another keyboard is connected. FEDORA-2022-21d81706cd (GNOME 42
megaupdate) includes a candidate fix.

4. firefox — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2057193 — ON_QA
f36 composes still have firefox 96, f34 f35 have firefox 97

Builds of Firefox 97, which contains security fixes, are failing on
F36 and Rawhide due to a GCC 12 internal error. FEDORA-2022-42ea499a7d
provides a successful build of Firefox 97.


Proposed blockers
-

1. mutter — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2063156 — NEW
Workstation Live is frozen in a VM with QXL video driver (Virtio works OK)

Recent composes of Workstation with the default video driver freeze on
the welcome screen. Using virtio initially (including switching to qxl
post-install) does not have this behavior.

2. selinux-policy —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2037047 — ASSIGNED
SELinux preventing systemd-network-generator from creating files in
/run/systemd/network/.

Passing network kernel arguments (e.g. to set the nameserver) at boot
causes a failure in systemd-network-generator due to an SELinux
denial.

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Proposal: Explicitly allow Council to waive Edition self-identification

2022-03-11 Thread Ben Cotton
## Proposal

Modify the "Edition self-identification" criterion to explicitly give
the Fedora Council the ability to waive the blocker status of bugs
that violate this criterion. Specifically, append the following to
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_36_Final_Release_Criteria#Self-identification

> The Fedora Council, as the body that defines Editions, may vote to waive this 
> criterion at its discretion through its regular decision-making process.

I included "as the body that defines Edition" to make it clear that
the Council's ability to waive this criterion follows from its
ownership of what an Edition is and not as a broad "the Council can
waive arbitrary criteria" statement.

The reason I said "regular decision-making process" is to indicate
that waiving a blocker under this criterion requires a normal ticket
vote[1], not a policy change[2].


## Context

During F35, Adam discovered that our Cloud deliverables were calling
themselves an Edition when they are not. This violates the "Edition
self-identifications" Final release criterion.

We waived this for F35 under the "late blocker exception". The Cloud
SIG is working to re-Editionify Cloud, but that won't happen for F36.
The Council agreed to waive this[3], but we don't have an explicit
mechanism to allow this. Hence, the proposal above.

[1] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/#_making_decisions
[2] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/council/policy/policy-change-policy/
[3] https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/389#comment-785482

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Re: F36 Beta blocker status summary

2022-03-04 Thread Ben Cotton
x27;t require creating an
admin user" (RHBZ 2015490) assumes a kickstart file will be available,
which is not the case. This results in ARM images not booting to
initial-setup. This has been reverted in FEDORA-2022-c263b25459

Proposed blockers
-

1. NetworkManager-openvpn —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2057719 — NEW
After upgrade gnome-control-center to 42~beta-1.fc37 unable to
configure VPN connection

VPN connections can't be configured with recent gnome-control-center
builds. This appears to be because the NetworkManager-* plugins are
still using GTK3, which can't work with a GTK4 gnome-control-center.
Work is in progress to update the plugins.

2. dnfdragora — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2060414 — NEW
On Fedora 36 KDE, dnfdragora does not start.

dnfdragora fails with a libyui error. There seems to be a bootstrap
issue because libyui-bindings is part of libyui now. The question of
whether two graphical package managers can be blocking is under
discussion.

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Re: rfc: new beta release criterion for minimum firefox version

2022-03-01 Thread Ben Cotton
I'm inclined to favor Adam's interpretation and say the existing
criteria covers this. But let me put it this way: are there cases
where we'd care about a browser version trailing that *aren't* covered
by existing criteria?

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Re: Release criteria proposal: networking requirements

2022-03-01 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 12:37 PM Adam Williamson
 wrote:
>
> So, uh, we sorta forgot about this. Kamil approved this draft, but
> nobody else gave any feedback on it. This topic is still relevant and
> we have a proposed VPN blocker today, so...any more feedback on this
> draft?

I think it's sound enough to start using. I'm sure we'll find all
sorts of edge cases to argue over and eventually fix. That's the
Fedora Way™.


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Re: F36 Beta blocker status summary

2022-02-25 Thread Ben Cotton
ugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2057193 — NEW
f36 composes still have firefox 96, f34 f35 have firefox 97

Builds of Firefox 97, which contains security fixes, are failing on
F36 and Rawhide due to a GCC 12 internal error.
FEDORA-2022-e056239611 contains a fix for those issues, but is
apparently incomplete.

2. gnome-control-center —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2057719 — NEW
After upgrade gnome-control-center to 42~beta-1.fc37 unable to
configure VPN connection

VPN connections can't be configured with recent gnome-control-center
builds. This bug is reported against Rawhide and there's no
confirmation at this moment that the behavior exists on F36.

3. initial-setup — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2057600 — NEW
Initial Setup startup failed due to invalid kickstart file

A previous fix for the "initial-setup doesn't require creating an
admin user" (RHBZ 2015490) assumes a kickstart file will be available,
which is not the case. This results in ARM images not booting to
initial-setup. An upstream PR reverts the partial fix while a better
long-term solution is found:
https://github.com/clalancette/oz/pull/297

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Re: F36 Beta blocker status summary

2022-02-17 Thread Ben Cotton
sion breaks the login screen.

A crash message is displayed instead of the login screen. This is
fixed in gjs 1.71.1.

3. pipewire — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2054921 — NEW
dnf system-upgrade 35 to 36 fails with various pipewire wireplumber conflicts

Package conflicts exist between pipewire-media-session and
pipewire-session-manager.

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F36 Beta blocker status summary

2022-02-10 Thread Ben Cotton
Now that we've reached the branch point, it's time to start doing
weekly blocker summaries again! Beta freeze begins on 22 February and
the current target Beta release date is 15 March.

Action summary


Accepted blockers
-
1. anaconda — When running anaconda on Wayland with two keyboard
layouts configured, hitting any modifier key with the second layout
selected switches to the first layout — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

2. distribution — Fedora 36 backgrounds not present on
release-blocking desktops (GNOME, KDE) — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to update background packages

3. fedora-release — fedora-release-identity-cloud says "Cloud
Edition", Cloud has not been an edition for years — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to update fedora-release-identity-cloud or
group-with-such-authority to waive this.

4. kwin — openQA clicks in anaconda on KDE stop working shortly after
it starts — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

5. libinput — GNOME doesn't accept input from wireless keyboard if
there's not another "keyboard" input available — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose issue

6. linux-firmware — Fedora 36: Server boot x86_64 image exceeds
maximum size — ASSIGNED
ACTION: None

Proposed blockers
-

1. distribution — Some variants are missing /etc/resolv.conf symlink
(use systemd-resolved) — POST
ACTION: QA to verify issue is resolved

2. dnf — exclude_from_weak_autodetect=true effectively renders rich
weak dependencies useless — NEW
ACTION: dnf maintainers to decide on approach for "instally only newly
recommended packages" proposal

Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-
1.  anaconda — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016613 — ASSIGNED
When running anaconda on Wayland with two keyboard layouts configured,
hitting any modifier key with the second layout selected switches to
the first layout

adamwill's research shows that this bug has existed since F25, but
became more viisble after KDE switched to Wayland by default. This bug
was deferred to F36 Beta under the "too hard to fix" exception.
There's ongoing discussion trying to come up with a potential fix,
however we still seem to be a long way from that point.

2. distribution — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2052654 — NEW
Fedora 36 backgrounds not present on release-blocking desktops (GNOME, KDE)

The usual desktop background blocker.

3. fedora-release — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2018271 — NEW
fedora-release-identity-cloud says "Cloud Edition", Cloud has not been
an edition for years

Waived from F35 final under the "late blocker exception." Cloud WG is
working on a proposal to re-promote Cloud to Edition status, but that
will not happen for F36 release cycle.

4. kwin — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2047503 — NEW
openQA clicks in anaconda on KDE stop working shortly after it starts

Shortly after the installer starts, mouse clicks in openQA stop
working. Using 'development mode' which allows for manual interaction
still works. This bug only affects KDE, and appears to have been
introduced in the KDE Plasma 5.24 pre-release on 2022-01-19. This bug
is accepted under the "hinders execution of required Beta test plans"
criterion.

5. libinput — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2017043 — NEW
GNOME doesn't accept input from wireless keyboard if there's not
another "keyboard" input available

On some hardware, devices with multiple capabilities that include
keyboard do not get registered as a keyboard. Thus they only work if
another keyboard is connected. It seems to mostly (or exclusively)
affect some ARM hardware.

6. linux-firmware —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2031214 — ASSIGNED
Fedora 36: Server boot x86_64 image exceeds maximum size

Fedora-Server-netinst-x86_64-36-20220210.n.0.iso is 731906048 bytes,
which is below the maximum size of 734003200. This bug can probably be
closed until the image exceeds the limit again.

Proposed blockers
-

1. distribution — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2032085 — POST
Some variants are missing /etc/resolv.conf symlink (use systemd-resolved)

Some variants are not using systemd-resolved as intended. With some
recently-merged changes to Anaconda, this appears to be working
correctly now.

2. dnf — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2033130 — NEW
exclude_from_weak_autodetect=true effectively renders rich weak
dependencies useless

Behavior introduced by the "Enable exclude_from_weak_autodetect by
default in LIBDNF" System-Wide Change appear to have undesired effects
in some use cases, particularly with language packs. It appears that a
robust fix is technically difficult, and the Change owners are
discussing reverting this Change for F36 (see BZ 2013327).

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-02-08 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 5:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2022-02-09 from 10:00:00 to 11:00:00 
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis
>At fedora-meetin...@irc.libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/

We will evaluate the following nominated bugs:

* SELinux preventing systemd-network-generator from creating files in
/run/systemd/network/
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2037047

We will check in on the following accepted bugs:

*  Lenovo ThinkPad T490, unable to boot following clean install, stuck
at splash screen
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1955416

* Flatpak using excessive space in /var/lib/flatpak/appstream
- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2032528

(Note that we're now meeting one hour earlier than we used to)

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Re: Picking a new time for the Prioritized Bugs meeting

2022-02-03 Thread Ben Cotton
Beginning next week, the Fedora Prioritized Bugs meetings will be held
on alternate Wednesdays at 10:00 AM US/Eastern (currently 1500 UTC)[1]
in #fedora-meeting-1. This is one hour earlier than the previous time.
For more information on the Prioritized Bugs process, see the docs[2].

[1] https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/meeting/10144/
[2] https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/

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Picking a new time for the Prioritized Bugs meeting

2022-01-26 Thread Ben Cotton
I have a personal conflict with the current meeting time for the
Prioritized Bugs meeting, so I'm looking to reschedule. If you'd like
to attend semi-regularly, please feel free to add your availability:
https://whenisgood.net/c8iqggm/

I make no promises about when the meeting will be scheduled, but if
there are times that are obviously favoriable, then I'll use that.

If you're not sure what meeting I'm talking about, the Prioritized
Bugs process is documented at:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/


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Re: Proposal: revise "Default application functionality" final criterion to be clearer

2022-01-21 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 7:10 PM Adam Williamson
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>
> Thoughts? Is this an improvement? Anyone have a better idea? Thanks!

This is a definite improvement. I agree with Kamil's comment about
including the "graphically" wording. It might be unnecessarily
pedantic, but our future selves may appreciate the clarity of intent.
Perhaps:

> Additionally, for Fedora Workstation on the x86_64 architecture, '''all''' 
> applications that are installed by default and can be launched using the 
> standard graphical mechanism must meet this requirement.

We might make a similar edit to the "all combos" wording, too:

> For all release-blocking desktop / arch combinations, the following graphical 
> applications must start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test:

This shows that we mean, for example, nautilus and not tar.

Stylistically, I like the idea of making the list of application types
and the examples given below into a table. That seems easier to
understand, although I see arguments for leaving it as-is. I suggest
this change, but will not lobby for it beyond this suggestion. :-)

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Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers (take #2)

2022-01-20 Thread Ben Cotton
Great work, Kamil. I think this addresses most of the concerns. And
while I still don't love the idea of including concurrent actions, the
argument is good enough that I'll live with it. I have some pedantic
arguments about one of the things that must hold true, but that's
something to discuss socially. I'm +1 to the modified proposal.

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2022-01-11 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 6:00 AM  wrote:
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> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2022-01-12 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 
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>At fedora-meetin...@libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/

We will review the following nominated bugs:

* Lenovo ThinkPad T490, unable to boot following clean install, stuck
at splash screen
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1955416
* Lenovo Ideapad 5 14alc05 Touchpad Randomly stops working
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2019926
* Flatpak using excessive space in /var/lib/flatpak/appstream
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2032528
* USB Controller doesn't reconize the connected device(s)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2032895
* "fedpkg lint" dies with rpmlint-2.0.0: rpmlint: error: unrecognized
arguments: -f
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1967821

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Re: is an accidentally reverted Fedora feature/change a blocker?

2021-12-20 Thread Ben Cotton
I generally agree with Adam's points. We don't want to add tests for
every accepted Change proposal. In particular, the "updating X to
version Y". That said, I think we should be checking for certain
paradigm-shift or otherwise notable changes. Changes to the default
filesystem, moving to Wayland by default, etc. are obvious candidates.
Some key "how" or performance changes, too (e.g. WirePlumber,
systemd-resolved). Looking at the last four releases, there are 2-3
per release that I would put on that list.

One thing we could do is to require a check with QA in Change
proposals (the way we require a check with Rel Eng). This would be a
good, early opportunity to adjust criteria or test cases, when needed.

I do think we should be careful about relying *solely* on our release
criteria. They're an important part of the process and give us a lot
of objectivity and predictability. But we're not producing a release
to meet the criteria, we're producing a release to give our users an
experience. (I don't love that phrasing, but I hope the intent is
clear enough.) So if we're shipping something that passes the criteria
and test cases, but doesn't give the intended experience, then our
criteria/tests are wrong.

We'll never be able to test everything exactly, but if there's a way
we can close the gap in a sustainable way, we should do that.

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2021-12-14 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 6:00 AM  wrote:
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> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2021-12-15 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 
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> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/

There are no nominated or accepted bugs, so tomorrow's meeting is
canceled. The 29 December meeting is also canceled. If you have any
bugs to nominate, we'll review them on Wednesday 12 January 2022.

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Re: Bug 1949417 - Fedora 34 does not boot after upgrade (edit)

2021-12-08 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 8:28 AM  wrote:

Hi Joe,

> I just tested this and it now works correctly. Can I
> makr it as closed?

Since you're the person who originally reported it, please feel free
to close it. (CLOSED->CURRENTRELEASE). If you have any trouble with
that, please let me know directly and I can help.

If you know what specific update fixed it, please note that in the
comments for historical reference.


Thanks,
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Re: F35 release retrospective

2021-11-30 Thread Ben Cotton
This is your reminder that the F35 release retrospective is open
through 4 December.

On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 3:56 PM Ben Cotton  wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> Now that we've released F35, I'd like to share the first semi-annual
> release retrospective survey:
> https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/231354
>
> I kept it intentionally short and open-ended. It should only take a
> few moments of your time. If you have any questions, please let me
> know. If you have suggestions for the next time around, there's a
> field for that in the survey!
>
> The survey is open through 4 December. I'll share results on the
> Community Blog in late December or early January.
>

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Re: F35 retrospective follow-up: proposed actions

2021-11-29 Thread Ben Cotton
On Fri, Nov 26, 2021 at 7:06 PM Adam Williamson
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>
> 3. "Ahmedalmeleh - Bugzilla is challenging to me and still getting used
> to it. I wish I was able to learn how to operate OpenQA's automated
> tests, in the given timeframe and was given guidance sooner.", also
> Ahmed's 'wishlist' item and Matt's item - I'll plan to file a ticket
> for improved guidance on using Bugzilla,

I'm happy to work with you on that. Or just let you assign it to
Program Management. I've been thinking about putting together some
"helpful Bugzilla tips" docs and potentially making videos for them.
Mainly, what I'd need to get started is some things that people want
to know. I've been around Bugzilla long enough to have lost track of
what "everyone knows".


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Heads up: moving some content from wiki to docs

2021-11-18 Thread Ben Cotton
Hi everyone,

Just wanted to let you know I'm going to start moving some
release-related content out of the wiki and into docs. It's largely
things that are static and copy/pasted forward like release-blocking
images, spins/labs, etc. I will setup automatic redirects as I move
pages, but if you're linking to specific anchors, that will likely
break. I'll continue to create wiki pages for the next release or two,
but if you have anything generating links to the wiki pages for
spins/labs or blocking images, you'll want to start updating those.

You can see the basic structure starting to take place at:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/releases/

Note that ChangeSet pages and schedules are not moving, at least for now.


Thanks,
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F35 release retrospective

2021-11-15 Thread Ben Cotton
Hi everyone,

Now that we've released F35, I'd like to share the first semi-annual
release retrospective survey:
https://fedoraproject.limequery.com/231354

I kept it intentionally short and open-ended. It should only take a
few moments of your time. If you have any questions, please let me
know. If you have suggestions for the next time around, there's a
field for that in the survey!

The survey is open through 4 December. I'll share results on the
Community Blog in late December or early January.

If you haven't seen, Adam is running a QA-specific retrospective as
well. If you only have QA feedback, you can record it on the wiki page
and I'll incorporate the responses into my final analysis.
 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_QA_Retrospective

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Re: Meeting on 2021-11-15: options

2021-11-13 Thread Ben Cotton
On Fri, Nov 12, 2021 at 7:02 PM Adam Williamson
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>
> So, we can either wait one more week, or someone else can volunteer to
> run the meeting on Monday in my stead. Does anyone want to do that, or
> should we wait till 2021-11-22? Thanks!

It's not that we can't meet without you, but I don't see anything on
the list that couldn't wait another week.


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Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers

2021-11-09 Thread Ben Cotton
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 8:37 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> I find it hard to draw the line somewhere between all these cases. So 
> aborting a previous operation is not ok, but not even starting a second 
> operation is ok? Installing and removing the same package is not blocking? 
> What about installing two different packages, would that block? What about 
> installing A and removing B? I don't honestly think it's a good idea to dig 
> into the million of sub-cases here.

> Just imagine we're not talking about the package manager but a file manager 
> instead. If you could either create a file, or remove a file, but you 
> couldn't create&remove the file, or you couldn't remove 2 different either 
> sequentially or together, that would clearly be a blocker (I hope). It would 
> be quite obvious that this is a basic functionality. So why isn't this a 
> basic functionality for the package manager? And why do we have (it seems) a 
> different quality bar for dnf vs graphical package managers? I don't think 
> these bugs would be waived for dnf.
>
I agree with František's comment that the DNF case is different enough
in how it functions that it's not a fair comparison. I do think that
aborting a previous operation is not okay, but refusing to start a
second operation until the first is done is. Ideally with a clear
message explaining why, but not necessarily.

So I still disagree with you, but my position is softening. I'd rather
we have a clearly-defined and understood set of criteria that I
disagree with in some places than to try to make every criterion match
my preferences. :-) So while I disagree, I'm happy to move forward
with this.

> So let's reduce the original requirement into something like this:
> * configure software sources by enabling/disabling pre-defined official 
> repositories and then adjust the available software pool accordingly
>
> Does it sound better?

Yes, that works for me.



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Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers

2021-11-04 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 6:12 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> "Multiple operations" is one of the reasons for proposing this criterion. In 
> this release, and previous releases, we often had a bug that you can install 
> a package, but then you can't remove it. But if you restarted the package 
> manager, or your session, then it worked. And people said "well, both install 
> and remove work, you just can't use them together, so... it's fine according 
> to the criteria!". That's why I list it explicitly as blocking Final. I don't 
> think it's fine.
>
I guess my question comes down to is this something The Average User™
does, or is it just something that Kamil does because he's really good
at QA? If it's the former, then I'm in favor of your proposal.

> Another scenario could be when you hit Install on app A, and before it is 
> done, you hit install on app B. Imagine if the first operation would get 
> stopped abruptly. The same argument could be used as above (which is a real 
> argument, not a made-up one). Again, that's why I mention it explicitly.
>
I see that as being a different case from the above, and I would
definitely support blocking on that behavior. The only thing that
should abruptly stop a transaction is the user hitting a cancel
button. So while I'm still unclear about the first part, I'm totally
on board with this part.

>> We should clarify this to something like "list software installed from
>> managed repositories". The wording probably needs help, but the idea
> What about:
> * list locally-installed software coming from the official Fedora repositories
> ?
Well, I think we'd want it to work for other repositories too (like
Flathub, rpmfusion, etc). But there's a case for keeping the criterion
limited to just the official repos because if something fails because
a third-party repo does something weird, that's out of our control. So
I guess this wording works if only to prevent ourselves getting hung
up on a totally-out-of-our-control bug at some point in the future.

>> > * start the selected installed software
>>
> I use it from time to time, it's faster than retyping the app name into the 
> gnome overview (and it also takes a few seconds to show up there, so you must 
> not be too fast or you need to start over). It's also convenient when trying 
> out 5 different drawing applications or similar. But the fact that it's 
> prominently shown made me include this. I think it would be a really poor 
> experience if you install some app, hit Open/Launch, and nothing happens. (At 
> the same time, this one use case is not as important as the others, so if 
> most people dislike it, I'm not going to fight for it - I'd just give you a 
> sad panda face).
>
You've convinced me. +1 to this

>> Do we want to make it clear that it's not intended to allow the user
>> to *add* a new repository? Or is that understood?
>
> GNOME Software doesn't allow the user to add any additional repository. KDE 
> Discover allows the user to add an arbitrary Flatpak repository, or Flathub 
> directly with a specialized button. My idea was to not distinguish between 
> different buttons, simply if it is present and serves for repo configuration, 
> it must work. However, if you think it's better, we can exclude the Add 
> button explicitly, or we can name which exact buttons/operations must work.
>
I'm on board with the enable/disable part for sure. I'm not sure how I
feel about the adding new repos part. I think I'm weakly opposed to
including it. One, it adds to the number of things we need to test.
Two, and more importantly, most third-party repos that I've come
across provide an RPM or similar to add a new repo. And if for some
reason it doesn't work via the GUI tool, I think saying "sorry, do it
on the command line then" is reasonable for this particular use case.

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Re: new criterion proposal: Graphical package managers

2021-11-03 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021 at 7:32 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> * install, remove and update software, even if multiple operations are 
> scheduled sequentially or concurrently

I don't like the "multiple operations" part but to be honest I'm not
sure if that's because I worry about how many delays it will cause or
if I legitimately don't think that's a sufficiently common use case.

> * list software installed on the system

We should clarify this to something like "list software installed from
managed repositories". The wording probably needs help, but the idea
is that we want it to know what RPMs and flatpaks are installed. But
if someone installs a package from source or a tarball, we don't
expect the package manager to know about it. I know that's not what
you're saying, but it's worth being clear here so that future readers
are clear on the intent.

> * start the selected installed software

Is this a common case? I almost never use a graphical package manager
myself, so I don't know.

> * configure software sources (enable/disable/add/remove repositories, set 
> default sources) and then adjust the available software pool accordingly

Do we want to make it clear that it's not intended to allow the user
to *add* a new repository? Or is that understood?

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2021-11-02 Thread Ben Cotton
> On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 7:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2021-11-03 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis
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> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/
>
We will discuss the following nominated bug (for real this time. I
swear I won't forget to run the meeting this time):

* gnome-shell: gnome-shell killed by SIGSEGV —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1960938

There are no currently accepted prioritized bugs.

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Re: Keyboard layout criterion update proposal

2021-10-28 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 3:06 PM Adam Williamson
 wrote:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_35_Final_Release_Criteria#Keyboard_layout_configuration
>
> I propose we add:
>
> * In the installer (if applicable)
>
> to the list of environments in which the configuration must work.
> Technically this is a bit odd because it's in the "Post-install
> requirements" section, but it seems a bit excessive to add a duplicate
> criterion in the "Installer requirements" section just to be hyper-
> correct, I think we can live with it. Alternatively we could move the
> whole thing out to a new section, I guess.
>
+1 to your proposal, including the "it's sort of in the wrong section,
but we'll live" part. It's worth fixing the oversight with minimal
overhead.

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Re: Fedora Linux 35 Final blocker review summary

2021-10-21 Thread Ben Cotton
Tomorrow's email today, since Friday is a "recharge day" at Red Hat.
We're now officially in "late" territory. The new target is target
date #2 (2 November), which means we'd want a new release candidate
compose by Tuesday evening.

Action summary


Accepted blockers
-
1. fedora-third-party — The switch for Fedora Third Party repositories
does not switch them on. — VERIFIED
ACTION: None

2. plasma-discover — Discover doesn't seem to find any RPM packages,
neither locally installed nor in RPM repos (but just under en_US
locale) — MODIFIED
ACTION: QA to verify update FEDORA-2021-1949dabf93

3. fedora-third-party — GNOME Software does not always show packages
from third party repos if enabled via gnome-initial-setup — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to fix issue

4. kbd — systemd-vconsole-setup.service fails on an arabic system — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to fix issue

5. LiveCD - KDE — The KDE LiveCD 35 RC does not boot in basic graphics
mode. — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to fix issue

6. plasma-discover — Install/Remove buttons are cropped, the text is
off-screen — VERIFIED
ACTION: None

Proposed blockers
-

1. kernel — Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose and fix issue


Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-
1.  fedora-third-party —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837 — VERIFIED
The switch for Fedora Third Party repositories does not switch them on.

Enabling third party repos failed, which was sort of fixed in
gnome-initial-setup-41~rc-3.fc35. Fixed in FEDORA-2021-d3cb1609c8.

2. plasma-discover —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011333 — MODIFIED
Toggling repo in Discover doesn't redraw the checkbox, confusing users
(but just under en_US locale)

When clicking on the checkbox, repo enablement is toggled, but that is
not reflected in the UI. This could lead to users putting the repos in
an undesired state. Update FEDORA-2021-1949dabf93 contains a fix that
appears to fix this.

3. fedora-third-party —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016510 — NEW
GNOME Software does not always show packages from third party repos if
enabled via gnome-initial-setup

Packages provided by third-party repositories sometimes are not shown
in Software if the repo was added via gnome-initial-setup and
PackageKit has not been refreshed (by timer or by adding additiona
repos after install). This is a spinoff of 2001837.

4. kbd — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015972 — NEW
systemd-vconsole-setup.service fails on an arabic system

The systemd-vconsole-setup service fails, however no functional defect
has been discovered. This appears to be because the 'ara' console
layout appears in xxb, but not in kdb-{misc,legacy}

5. LiveCD - KDE — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2016310 — NEW
The KDE LiveCD 35 RC does not boot in basic graphics mode.

Booting with basic graphics mode on a BIO system ends up with a black
screen. The system does not responsd to Esc, but does to
`Ctrl+Alt+Del`. In EFI mode, it works as expected.

6. plasma-discover —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2015491 — VERIFIED
Install/Remove buttons are cropped, the text is off-screen

The button labels were off-screen, leaving users to guess that they're
clicking the right button. Update FEDORA-2021-1949dabf93 contains a
verified fix.

Proposed blockers
-

1. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928 — NEW
Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs

OpenStack aarch64 VMs hang on boot. With the same kernel, this does
not happen on F34 cloud images but does happen on F34 installs from
the Everything media, so this may implicate the BTRFS change. Work to
diagnose this is ongoing, but reproduction seems elusive. We're
working with Vexxhost to see if they can provide additional
troubleshooting help.


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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2021-10-19 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 7:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2021-10-20 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 
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>At fedora-meetin...@libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/
>
We will discuss the following nominated bug:

* gnome-shell: gnome-shell killed by SIGSEGV —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1960938

There are no currently accepted prioritized bugs.

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Re: Fedora Linux 35 Final blocker review summary

2021-10-15 Thread Ben Cotton
Many fewer blockers than last week. Hooray! Go/No-Go for target date
#1 is Thursday.


Action summary


Accepted blockers
-
1. geoclue2 — time is transiently incorrect when Automatic Time Zone
is enabled — MODIFIED
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2021-14f2ed62fd

2. selinux-policy — The switch for Fedora Third Party repositories
does not switch them on. — MODIFIED
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2021-d3cb1609c8

3. plasma-discover — Discover shows a misleading state of Flatpak
repos, can't delete disabled repos — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to fix issue

4. plasma-discover — Discover doesn't seem to find any RPM packages,
neither locally installed nor in RPM repos — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to fix issue

5. plasma-discover — Toggling repo in Discover doesn't redraw the
checkbox, confusing users — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to fix issue

6. uboot-tools — RK3399 - SPL: failed to boot from all boot devices — POST
ACTION: Maintainers to submit an update with problematic patch reverted

Proposed blockers
-

1. kernel — Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose and fix issue

2. clevis-pin-tpm2 — clevis - thread 'main' panicked at 'called
`Option::unwrap() — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainers to fix issue
NEEDINFO: pbrobinson

3. dracut — 5.14.9-200.fc34 kernel will not boot on AWS EC2 t2.small
instance — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to submit an update that includes upstream fix

4. gnome-initial-setup — Online Accounts setup does not appear when
wifi is configured through Gnome Initial Setup — MODIFIED
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2021-14f2ed62fd

5. kscreenlocker — KScreenLocker segfaults when screen dims — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to fix issue

6. spin-kickstarts — resolv.conf on Cloud images are not empty,
causing cloud-init automatic network configuration to fail  — NEW
ACTION: QA to verify kickstarts commit 32b03e0

Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-
1.  geoclue2 — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1991075 — MODIFIED
time is transiently incorrect when Automatic Time Zone is enabled

The displayed time is incorrect in some cases when Automatic Time Zone
is enabled. Both `timedatectl` and the GNOME display show the wrong
time. Update FEDORA-2021-532f05d2e3 contained a partial fix.
Subsequent investigation discovered a change in NetworkManager 1.32
broke glib's network connectivity detection code, which broke geoclue.
Update FEDORA-2021-14f2ed62fd contains a candidate fix.

2. selinux-policy — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837 — POST
The switch for Fedora Third Party repositories does not switch them on.

Enabling third party repos failed, which was sort of fixed in
gnome-initial-setup-41~rc-3.fc35. However, when running SELinux in
enforcing mode, it still fails. Several updates to the policy
configuration have been added. Update FEDORA-2021-d3cb1609c8 for
fedora-third-party removes an unneeded chcon call.

3. plasma-discover — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011291 — NEW
Discover shows a misleading state of Flatpak repos, can't delete disabled repos

4. plasma-discover — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011322 — NEW
Discover doesn't seem to find any RPM packages, neither locally
installed nor in RPM repos

Discover shows updates in the "Installed" tab, but when no updates are
available, only flatpaks are listed. This isn't universally
reproducible. Updated installations from Beta media seem to work, but
nightlies do not (as least as of 20211011.n.0.iso).

5. plasma-discover — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011333 — NEW
Toggling repo in Discover doesn't redraw the checkbox, confusing users

When clicking on the checkbox, repo enablement is toggled, but that is
not reflected in the UI. This could lead to users putting the repos in
an undesired state. This is not fixed in Discover 5.23.

6. uboot-tools — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2014182 — POST
RK3399 - SPL: failed to boot from all boot devices

uboot-tools releases 2021.{07,10} do not boot on rk3399 devices.
pbrobinson identified the responsible patch and is testing reversion
on key devices.

Proposed blockers
-

1. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928 — NEW
Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs

OpenStack aarch64 VMs hang on boot. With the same kernel, this does
not happen on F34 cloud images, so this may implicate the BTRFS
change.

2. clevis-pin-tpm2 —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2012758 — ASSIGNED
clevis - thread 'main' panicked at 'called `Option::unwrap()

A crash in clevis presents unlocking TPM2 storage, which is part of
the key IoT security functionality. QA tests are passing on F35 and
failing on Rawhide, however the user report came from F35.

3. dracut — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2010058 — NEW
5.14.9-200.fc34 kernel will not boot on AWS EC2 t2.small instance

xen-blkfr

Re: Fedora Linux 35 Final blocker review summary

2021-10-07 Thread Ben Cotton
, which either introduces or uncovers BZ
2011774.

17. plasma-discover — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011322 — NEW
Discover doesn't seem to find any RPM packages, neither locally
installed nor in RPM repos

Discover shows updates in the "Installed" tab, but when no updates are
available, only flatpaks are listed.

Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-shell — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011872 — NEW
gnome-shell OSDs show invalid icons most of the time

Each time some OSD popup (e.g. for volume changes) is shown and
disappears, its icon is "remembered" and used for all future OSDs.
This is fixed upstream
https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/merge_requests/1983

2. gnome-software — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2010660 — NEW
certain apps are shown among system repos

Some applications are showing in Software among the system repos
instead of with applications. Upstream MR 1023 backports the fix to
GNOME 41: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-software/-/merge_requests/1023

3. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2008537 — POST
5.14.x defaults to acpi on aarch64

Kernel 5.14.1-300 introduced an accidental change in bahevior on
aarch64 where ACPI was used instead of device-tree. This can't be
fixed in subsequent updates because changing to device-tree might
change which hardware works and how. The patch is reverted and will
appear in 5.14.10+.

4. kernel — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011928 — NEW
Fedora 35 aarch64 cloud image based openstack VM hangs

OpenStack aarch64 VMs hang on boot. With the same kernel, this does
not happen on F34 cloud images, so this may implicate the BTRFS
change.

5. kwin — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001135 — POST
kwin_wayland segmentation faulted in
KWin::LibInput::Context::closeRestricted when logging out of Plasma
with libinput-1.18.901-1.fc35

When logging out of PLasma 5.22.5 on Wayland, the screen goes black
and then Plasma restarts. This is fixed in upstream 5.23. adamwill has
a scratch build of backports that appears to fix the issue:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=76835467

6. LiveCD - KDE — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011889 — NEW
The KDE Live does freezes on Dell Precision Tower 7810

Boot checks pass and the boot messages appeared correct, but when the
live session opened on this hardware, it freezes immediately.
Workstation ISO boots fine on this hardware.

7. openh264 — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2008803 — MODIFIED
openh264 crashes for all videos

When opening any video, gmpopenh264 crashes. opehnh264-2.1.1-3 should
fix this, but needs to be added to Cisco's repo. The person
responsible at Cisco is on PTO and should be back next week.

8. plasma-discover — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011333 — NEW
Toggling repo in Discover doesn't redraw the checkbox, confusing users

Clicking on the checkbox appears to not toggle the status of the repo,
but it actually does, the GUI just doesn't update.

9. plasma-systemsettings —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011231 — NEW
HDMI Audio Device is invisible/inactive unless you manually assign it a profile

HDMI devices do not appear in the "quick menu" unless the user first
goes to the system settings to assign a profile to the device. Your
humble FPgM wonders if this is related to the wireplumber bug (BZ
2010683).

10. uboot-tools — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2010449 — ON_QA
uboot-tools-2021.10 is available

A new uboot-tools release is available. Not having this in installer
images generates additional support effort for the entire stable
release cycle. Update FEDORA-2021-b1079b7042 contains the new version.


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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2021-10-05 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 7:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2021-10-06 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 
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>At fedora-meetin...@libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/
>
We will evaluate the following bug:

* gnome-shell: gnome-shell killed by SIGSEGV —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1960938

There are no open accepted prioritized bugs.

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Re: Fedora Linux 35 Final blocker review summary

2021-10-01 Thread Ben Cotton
esizing.

4. libreport — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2006632 — ASSIGNED
Abort doesn't work well

Crash reports from abrt fail. This may be an issue with the retrace
server. abrt team is investigating. Upstream PR
https://github.com/abrt/retrace-server/pull/434 is a candidate fix for
the retrace server.

5. spice-vdagent — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2009304 — NEW
Mouse cursor offset in VMs with Wayland (but not X11), possibly due to
mouse integration

The mouse cursor is offset only in Wayland sessions. Removing "Tablet"
and "Channel spice" from the VM config removes the offset, but also
results in mouse integration being disabled. adamwill has seen this in
previous releases on KDE Plasma, but now it appears on Workstation as
well.

6. systemd — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2006393 — NEW
[DNS over TLS] following connection to a wifi AP, internet is not
available for ~30s

In some environments, systemd-resolved makes a DNS over TLS request
and gets no response, so it wait until it times out. Disabling DNS
over TLS avoids the problem. The issue is present regardless of signal
strength and is reproducible with a restart of the NetworkManager
service.

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Fedora Linux 35 Final blocker review summary

2021-09-24 Thread Ben Cotton
F35 Beta is GO! Time to focus on the Final blockers.

Action summary


Accepted blockers
-
1. mesa — gnome-shell: cogl_texture_get_gl_texture(): gnome-shell
killed by SIGSEGV — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to revert the regression-causing commit

2. abrt — abrt-dbus segmentation faulted in abrt_p2_service_dbus when
shutting down, rebooting, or logging out of Plasma — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose and fix issue

3. xdg-desktop-portal — time is transiently incorrect when Automatic
Time Zone is enabled — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose and fix issue

Proposed blockers
-

1. cockpit — Non-root user cannot join a domain through Cockpit — POST
ACTION: Maintainers include upstream PR in an update

2. gedit — gedit crashes when searching for files — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose and fix issue

3. spice-vdagent — Mouse cursor position has a horizontal and vertical
offset after changing resolution in a VM — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose and fix issue

4. libreport — Abort doesn't work well — NEW
ACTION: abrt teams to continue investigating retrace server issue

5. selinux-policy — The switch for Fedora Third Party repositories
does not switch them on. — ASSIGNED
ACTION: Maintainers to create SELinux policy that permits the appropriate action

6. systemd — [DNS over TLS] following connection to a wifi AP,
internet is not available for ~30s — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to fix issue
NEEDINFO: lpoetter

7. webkit2gtk3 — crash happens everytime when try to add a google
account to Online Account — MODIFIED
ACTION: QA to verify FEDORA-2021-c58350f4c8

Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-
1. mesa — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1989726 — NEW
gnome-shell: cogl_texture_get_gl_texture(): gnome-shell killed by SIGSEGV

The Tegra driver in mesa has a regression that causes this bug.
Working with upstream on this. This bug was waived from F35 Beta.

2. abrt — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1997315 — ASSIGNED
abrt-dbus segmentation faulted in abrt_p2_service_dbus when shutting
down, rebooting, or logging out of Plasma

The crash reporter crashes (preventing us from receiving a crash
report from the crash reporter) when logging out or shutting down a
graphical session. It appears to be due to a change between
glib2-2.69.0-1.fc35 and glib2-2.69.2-1.fc35.

3. xdg-desktop-portal —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1991075 — NEW
time is transiently incorrect when Automatic Time Zone is enabled

The displayed time is incorrect in some cases when Automatic Time Zone
is enabled. Both `timedatectl` and the GNOME display show the wrong
time. This behavior appears to exist on F34 and F35.


Proposed blockers
-

1. cockpit — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2006028 — POST
Non-root user cannot join a domain through Cockpit

Non-root users who are members of the "Wheel" group cannot join a
FreeIPA or AD domain through Cockpit. Upstream PR
https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit/pull/16371 contains a fix
which appears to work.

2. gedit — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2007602 — NEW
gedit crashes when searching for files

When searching for a file in gedit, it results in a SIGSEGV.

3. spice-vdagent — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2006746 — NEW
Mouse cursor position has a horizontal and vertical offset after
changing resolution in a VM

Occasionally (1/3 times in kparal's testing), the mouse position was
offset in a virtual machine until rebooting.

4. libreport — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2006632 — NEW
Abort doesn't work well

Crash reports from abrt fail. This may be an issue with the retrace
server. abrt team is investigating.

5. selinux-policy —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2001837 — ASSIGNED
The switch for Fedora Third Party repositories does not switch them on.

Enabling third party repos failed, which was sort of fixed in
gnome-initial-setup-41~rc-3.fc35. However, when running SELinux in
enforcing mode, it still fails. The `pkexec` run as part of
gnome-initial-setup leaves the SELinux context unchanged and the xdm_t
type does not have the ability to edit the appropriate files.

6. systemd — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2006393 — NEW
[DNS over TLS] following connection to a wifi AP, internet is not
available for ~30s

In some environments, systemd-resolved makes a DNS over TLS request
and gets no response, so it wait until it times out. Disabling DNS
over TLS avoids the problem, which may be caused by a "router…of
questionable quality."

7. webkit2gtk3 — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2006624 — MODIFIED
crash happens everytime when try to add a google account to Online Account

Trying to add a Google account causes Online Accounts to crash. Update
FEDORA-2021-c58350f4c8 contains a candidate fix.

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REMINDER: Fedora Linux 35 Beta Go/No-Go meeting tomorrow

2021-09-22 Thread Ben Cotton
We will be holding the F35 Beta Go/No-Go meeting tomorrow at 1700 UTC
in #fedora-meeting. For more information, see the calendar event[1] or
wiki page[2].

[1] https://calendar.fedoraproject.org/Fedora%20release/#m10064
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Go_No_Go_Meeting

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Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Prioritized bugs and issues

2021-09-21 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 7:00 AM  wrote:
>
> You are kindly invited to the meeting:
>Prioritized bugs and issues on 2021-09-22 from 11:00:00 to 12:00:00 
> America/Indiana/Indianapolis
>At fedora-meetin...@libera.chat
>
> More information available at: 
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/program_management/prioritized_bugs/
>

We will evaluate the following nominated bugs:

* Screen stays black after suspend / logout when used on amd apu
laptop. — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1988528

There are no currently-accepted bugs.

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Re: Fedora Linux 35 Beta blocker status summary

2021-09-17 Thread Ben Cotton
Action summary


Accepted blockers
-
1. mesa — gnome-shell: cogl_texture_get_gl_texture(): gnome-shell
killed by SIGSEGV — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose and fix issue
NEEDINFO: karolherbst

2. freeipa — DNS often stops resolving properly after FreeIPA server
upgrade to Fedora 35 or 36 — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers and QA to determine if the problem occurs outside
of the openQA environment

3. selinux-policy — gnome-initial-setup slow to start up, missing
Online Accounts page when SELinux in enforcing mode — VERIFIED
ACTION: None

Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-softare — a removed package looks still installed in
gnome-software, can't be installed again until reboot — NEW
ACTION: Maintainers to diagnose and fix issue

Bug-by-bug detail
=

Accepted blockers
-
1. mesa — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1989726 — NEW
gnome-shell: cogl_texture_get_gl_texture(): gnome-shell killed by SIGSEGV

gnome-shell gets SIGSEGV on the Jetson Nano, which is blocking
hardware for the aarch64 architecture. Upstream MR 1979 contained a
candidate fix, but either the issue persists or a new one (BZ 1999681)
arises. It appears to be a driver issue.

2. freeipa — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1999321 — NEW
DNS often stops resolving properly after FreeIPA server upgrade to
Fedora 35 or 36

After upgrade from F33/34, the server stops returning correct DNS
responses (empty when they should not be) about 50% of the time. This
only happens with upgrades. It also appears to be limited to cases
where the server is upgraded but the client is not. Disabling
systemd-resolved does not change the behavior. It's unclear if this
behavior is only observed in the openQA environment.

3. selinux-policy —
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1997310 — VERIFIED
gnome-initial-setup slow to start up, missing Online Accounts page
when SELinux in enforcing mode

gnome-initial-setup skips the Online Accounts page and boots slowly
affter selinux-policy-34.16-1.fc35 landed. Confirmed fix in
selinux-policy-34.20-1.fc35.

Proposed blockers
-

1. gnome-software — https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2004604 — NEW
a removed package looks still installed in gnome-software, can't be
installed again until reboot

In some cases, Software shows a package as installed after it has been
removed. Restarting the Software background process clears this. This
appears likely to be rejected as a Beta blocker based on current
votes, but may be considered for Final.

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Re: Basic criterion proposal: g-i-s shouldn't take 2 minutes to launch

2021-09-17 Thread Ben Cotton
On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 3:35 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
>
> But I also missed his announcement, and when this discussion was renewed, I 
> thought the criterion still wasn't finalized and in effect. It seems I wasn't 
> the only one :o)
>
I also forgot that I had done it when the discussion picked back up.
But yeah, I'm definitely flexible on the timing. I think the reason we
went with a number was to avoid getting bogged down in what
"reasonable" meant. But the existing criterion has its own ambiguity,
so if we can make it better*, we should.

* But what does "better" mean?! :-D

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Test request for BZ 1996998

2021-09-14 Thread Ben Cotton
Hi folks,

Halfline has provided a candidate fix for BZ 1996998. Please get the
build from Koji[1] and test.

[1] https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=75662323

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