Re: Fedora 22 Workstation Beta Release Candidate 1

2015-04-09 Thread Joerg Lechner
Hi,
my laptop is an Acer E15 E5-571G. Hybrid Grafics (Intel/Nvidia Geforce 840M). 
No problems in installing and using Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64_Beta-1.iso
so far.


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On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 13:49 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
 Downloaded
Workstation Beta Release Candidate 1. Booted on ASUS 
 X550ZE which hit
 this
bug
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1209347
 
 prompting to
manually start the Gnome X Session as a temporarily 
 workaround. The
 issue
seems affecting AMD based system. Hopefully the fix will come 
 on the final

release should the issue be not resolved on time for the beta 
 release. In
that
 case, the risk will trigger a possible problem for AMD system users 

who still
 represent a fair amount of percentage.

We don't think it's 'AMD
users', because we've tested other systems 
with AMD graphics adapters and they
work fine. But it *may* be 'hybrid 
graphics laptops', which would be something
of a problem because 
there's a lot of those.

So can I ask the list: can anyone
who has a laptop with hybrid 
graphics (one with two adapters, one Intel, one
higher-powered AMD or 
NVIDIA) boot the F22 Beta RC1 Workstation live image and
let us know 
if they successfully reach a desktop? Thanks! It'd be good to have

more data on how widespread this problem is.

 Some applications like Libre
Office will crash X sesion meaning the 
 bug is
 possibly related to the
driver (xorg-x11-drv-ati). On my installed 
 Fedora 22,
 these applications
will run fine on Wayland.
 
 Speaking of Gnome on Wayland, multimedia
application like Cheese and 
 Totem and
 also Gnome-battery-bench will segment
fault when trying to start it. 
 See

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1206809
 Known issues on that
session are Drag and Drop and the inability to 
 copy and
 paste from Wayland
application (Gedit) to XWayland application 
 (Firefox).
 
 On both sessions,
there is a lag of plugins in and out the laptop 
 power outlet.
 Without a
proper battery power management and optimization, this 
 laptop lasts
 about
two hours.
 
 Those are covering the status of Workstation 22 Beta Release 

Candidate 1.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Fedora 22 Workstation Beta Release Candidate 1

2015-04-09 Thread Richard Ryniker
Works OK on my Macbook Pro:  i7-4850HQ processor with Intel Iris Pro
Graphics 5200 plus Nvidia GT-750M graphics processor.
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Re: Fedora 22 Workstation Beta Release Candidate 1

2015-04-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2015-04-08 at 13:49 -0700, Luya Tshimbalanga wrote:
 Downloaded Workstation Beta Release Candidate 1. Booted on ASUS 
 X550ZE which hit
 this bug
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1209347
 
 prompting to manually start the Gnome X Session as a temporarily 
 workaround. The
 issue seems affecting AMD based system. Hopefully the fix will come 
 on the final
 release should the issue be not resolved on time for the beta 
 release. In that
 case, the risk will trigger a possible problem for AMD system users 
 who still
 represent a fair amount of percentage.

We don't think it's 'AMD users', because we've tested other systems 
with AMD graphics adapters and they work fine. But it *may* be 'hybrid 
graphics laptops', which would be something of a problem because 
there's a lot of those.

So can I ask the list: can anyone who has a laptop with hybrid 
graphics (one with two adapters, one Intel, one higher-powered AMD or 
NVIDIA) boot the F22 Beta RC1 Workstation live image and let us know 
if they successfully reach a desktop? Thanks! It'd be good to have 
more data on how widespread this problem is.

 Some applications like Libre Office will crash X sesion meaning the 
 bug is
 possibly related to the driver (xorg-x11-drv-ati). On my installed 
 Fedora 22,
 these applications will run fine on Wayland.
 
 Speaking of Gnome on Wayland, multimedia application like Cheese and 
 Totem and
 also Gnome-battery-bench will segment fault when trying to start it. 
 See
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1206809
 Known issues on that session are Drag and Drop and the inability to 
 copy and
 paste from Wayland application (Gedit) to XWayland application 
 (Firefox).
 
 On both sessions, there is a lag of plugins in and out the laptop 
 power outlet.
 Without a proper battery power management and optimization, this 
 laptop lasts
 about two hours.
 
 Those are covering the status of Workstation 22 Beta Release 
 Candidate 1.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: Fedora 22 Workstation Beta Release Candidate 1

2015-04-09 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-04-10 at 04:04 +0200, A.J. Werkman wrote:
 I have an Acer Aspire VN7-571G.
 I don't know wether this one has hybrid graphics, but the F22 Beta 
 RC1 
 Workstation live image does not reach a desktop. It hangs with the 
 fedora logo.

I think it does, yeah - google results for VN7-571G optimus indicate 
so. Do you have the same experience as others - you can get to a 
console with ctrl-alt-f2, log in as 'liveuser' (no password), run 
'startx', and the desktop shows up?
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Re: Fedora 22 Workstation Beta Release Candidate 1

2015-04-09 Thread Giulio 'juliuxpigface'

 We don't think it's 'AMD users', because we've tested other systems 
 with AMD graphics adapters and they work fine. But it *may* be 'hybrid 
 graphics laptops', which would be something of a problem because 
 there's a lot of those.
 
 So can I ask the list: can anyone who has a laptop with hybrid 
 graphics (one with two adapters, one Intel, one higher-powered AMD or 
 NVIDIA) boot the F22 Beta RC1 Workstation live image and let us know 
 if they successfully reach a desktop? Thanks! It'd be good to have 
 more data on how widespread this problem is.
 

My laptop is equipped with two Amd cards (4200m+5650m).
I've just tried Fedora-Live-Workstation-x86_64-22_Beta-1.iso on a
USB-stick.

I don't reach the desktop, the session apparently stucks with the
message A start job is running for Wait For Plymouth Screen to Quit.

startx on another TTY makes me correctly jump to a Gnome session.



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Re: Fedora 22 Workstation Beta Release Candidate 1

2015-04-09 Thread Luya Tshimbalanga
On 09/04/15 07:50 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:

 We don't think it's 'AMD users', because we've tested other systems 
 with AMD graphics adapters and they work fine. But it *may* be 'hybrid 
 graphics laptops', which would be something of a problem because 
 there's a lot of those.

After reading the comments on bug report about similar issues with both
Intel and Nvidia, I understand it is hybrid graphics laptop issue.



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