Re: [TeX-music] pmx: note-slur-pause

2002-07-15 Thread Hiroaki MORIMOTO

Hello Don, Alexandros, and all,

This is a bit out-of-date topic: combination of note-slur-pause.

Following does not work well on PMX(2.30-)2.402 with and without `Ap'.
Slurs are parsed, horizontal positioning is *OK*, but the vertical 
position of end is always {b}.

1 1 4 4 4 4  0 0 0 4 20 0

0
./
Ap
c25d s r4 s /

c24d s r4 s /


In these cases, slurs should be level at default.
Don, Would you please fix this?

on Sun, 19 May 2002 15:08:19 +0200 Alexandros Droseltis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Don! It's very nice. But the combination note-slur-pause *does*
 make musical sense, especially in instruments like the harp or
 percussion: it means that the player must not stop the vibration of the
 strings (harp) or the body of the instrument (tubes). Berg uses it in
 the horns too, to indicate that the end of the sound must not be abrupt.

Also, a combination of note-slur-pause is sometimes seen in songs
and tunes for pianoforte.
This says to a singer that the note must be sustained `espressivo'
during the note length.
This is quite different expression from a tenuto but it's hard 
to explain in letters. 
Anyway a combination of note-slur-pause makes important musical sense.


By the way, not only my package but perhaps also Stanislav's package
has no limit with slur slope.
How about abolishing the slur slope limitter shown below?

-
 This is PMX, Version 2.402, 13 July 2002
 Opening mx20.pmx

 Starting first PMX pass


 ERROR in line 6, bar 2 Magnitude of slur height adjustment cannot exceed 15
  v
 c25d s r4 s+32 /

-


Best regards,


Hiroaki MORIMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [TeX-music] pmx: note-slur-pause

2002-05-18 Thread Don Simons

Alexandros Droseltis wrote

 I have a problem at the last note/pause of the following example. How
 could I correct it? I want the slur to begin at the note and end at
 the pause at the same height.

PMX cannot handle slurs to rests, partly because they don't make much
musical sense.  But if you really want to do this, it turns out PMX lets you
start and end a slur on the same note.  The horizontal shifts are limited,
though, to +/- 6.3 notehead widths.  See the corrected file below.

the accidentals are
small. At the rest of the piece, some are big and some are small. What
did I do wrong?

You didn't enter Ab at the beginning.  Explanation: the original default
behavior for PMX was to use big accidentals unless a big one would not fit
in the available space, then it switched to a small one, and then would only
add space if the small one would not fit.  At some point I decided I didn't
really like the jumble of sizes, so I programmed up Ab to force big
accidentals always.  But the old default had been in place for a long time,
so I didn't really want to change the default.

I also notice you aren't using postscript slurs (Ap).  I realize there are
some features in that package that some people object to. I've been in touch
with Stanislav, he's already sent me an upgrade that addresses all of those
issues, and I've been building some more functionality into PMX to use the
new slurs.  In particular, ties and slurs will now be different whenever
Ap is in effect. I'm waiting for Stanislav to give me the go-ahead to post
the new slur files; the upgraded PMX may take a little longer.

--Don Simons


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Oops! RE: [TeX-music] pmx: note-slur-pause

2002-05-18 Thread Don Simons

Forgot to include the example:

=
  21  44   0  00   0
   1  1 200.07
Arpa
tt
./
Ab
% BARS
r4 r1 d84 Df ( a14 a ) g8 f1 b8 c1 ( e14 /
\Uptext{\metron{\cu}{60}}\
d84 Df a84 g f1 ( b b ) c e84 ( d15 a g f /

m5800
%e1 ) ( d15 a g [ f b83 ofd-1 ) ( c1 ] r8 )  /
e1 ) ( d15 a g [ f b83 ofd-1 ) ( c1 )+0+4 ] r8  /
%b83 ) [ b35 cf b1 ] [ b35 cf b8 of ( cn1 ] r8 ) /
b83 ) [ b35 cf b1 ] [ b35 cf b8 of ( cn1 )+0+4 ] r8 /
=

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 2:23 PM
 To: TeX-Music
 Subject: RE: [TeX-music] pmx: note-slur-pause
 
 
 Alexandros Droseltis wrote
 
  I have a problem at the last note/pause of the following example. How
  could I correct it? I want the slur to begin at the note and end at
  the pause at the same height.
 
 PMX cannot handle slurs to rests, partly because they don't make 
 much musical sense.  But if you really want to do this, it turns 
 out PMX lets you start and end a slur on the same note.  The 
 horizontal shifts are limited, though, to +/- 6.3 notehead 
 widths.  See the corrected file below.
 
 the accidentals are
 small. At the rest of the piece, some are big and some are small. What
 did I do wrong?
 
 You didn't enter Ab at the beginning.  Explanation: the 
 original default behavior for PMX was to use big accidentals 
 unless a big one would not fit in the available space, then it 
 switched to a small one, and then would only add space if the 
 small one would not fit.  At some point I decided I didn't really 
 like the jumble of sizes, so I programmed up Ab to force big 
 accidentals always.  But the old default had been in place for a 
 long time, so I didn't really want to change the default.
 
 I also notice you aren't using postscript slurs (Ap).  I 
 realize there are some features in that package that some people 
 object to. I've been in touch with Stanislav, he's already sent 
 me an upgrade that addresses all of those issues, and I've been 
 building some more functionality into PMX to use the new slurs.  
 In particular, ties and slurs will now be different whenever Ap 
 is in effect. I'm waiting for Stanislav to give me the go-ahead 
 to post the new slur files; the upgraded PMX may take a little longer.
 
 --Don Simons
 
 
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