Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

2014-02-01 Thread Dirk Laurie
2014-02-01 Dirk Laurie dirk.lau...@gmail.com:

 Until I get this fixed, the best workaround is:

 1. Use plain bar lines.
 2. Insert an explicit left repeat in what will become PMX's first voice.

OK, I have fixed it and the changes are on my GitHub repository,
as described in another thread. The actual code change is tiny,
but finding the spot required some persistence.

Staring at the workaround (just one extra `Rl`), I am not so sure any
more that I should have considered this to be a bug. After all, a repeat
sign commonly appears in mid-bar later on when the repeat
includes the pickup..  Oh, well, it's done now, and I'm sure at
least that it is the intuitively right thing to do. If you have a repeat
sign in the middle of your pickup, you will be confusing the performer
too.
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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

2014-01-31 Thread Christian Mondrup

Dirk Laurie wrote:

2014-01-30 Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com:


So problem solved? Why go any further?


Well, actually M-Tx is supposed to be clever enough to
do this (and does, when it is a plain barline). So failing
to do so when it is a repeat counts as a bug. I'll try to
hunt it down (although I've stopped thinking of myself
as M-Tx maintainer after some others, notably Christian,
have stepped into the breach).


I'm afraid I need to disappoint those expecting me to maintain M-Tx. 
That role should be taken by active users of the software. For some 
years I've been using MusiXTeX and friends only for fixing bugs in my 
existing M-Tx engravings while I'm using another open source engraver, 
MUP for my ongoing projects.




Dirk
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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

2014-01-31 Thread Dirk Laurie
2014-01-31 Christian Mondrup rec...@icking-music-archive.org:
 Dirk Laurie wrote:

 2014-01-30 Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com:

 So problem solved? Why go any further?


 Well, actually M-Tx is supposed to be clever enough to
 do this (and does, when it is a plain barline). So failing
 to do so when it is a repeat counts as a bug. I'll try to
 hunt it down (although I've stopped thinking of myself
 as M-Tx maintainer after some others, notably Christian,
 have stepped into the breach).


 I'm afraid I need to disappoint those expecting me to maintain M-Tx. That
 role should be taken by active users of the software. For some years I've
 been using MusiXTeX and friends only for fixing bugs in my existing M-Tx
 engravings while I'm using another open source engraver, MUP for my ongoing
 projects.

I'll put M-Tx on GitHub. Then anyone willing to maintain it can
simply fork it.

Dirk
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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

2014-01-30 Thread Don Simons
So problem solved? Why go any further?

--Don Simons

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From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Wojtek
Chemijewski
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:04 AM
To: Werner Icking Music Archive
Subject: Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

Hello,

My apologies for not being precise enough and not pasting the complete
example!

Following the Don's advice, I have came up with a piece that compiles:

===
Title: In the Lord I'll be ever thankful
Composer: m. J. Berthier, Taiz\'e
Style: SATB
Flats: 1
Meter: m1/4/3/4
Systems: 1
Pages: 1
Space: 6
PMX: I
PMX: Ap

%% w175m \\def\writebarno{\relax}\
%% \\stdbarrules\
f8 g |:
d8 e |:
L: In the
a8 c |:
d8 c |:

m3/4/0/0 a4 a8 a g f | e4 c oc f8 g
m3/4/0/0 f4 f8 f c c | e4 c d8 e
L: Lord I'll be ev-er thank-ful, in the
m3/4/0/0 c4 c8 c f- f | f4 e oc a8 c
m3/4/0/0 f4 f8 f a- a | b4 c d8 c
===


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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

2014-01-30 Thread Dirk Laurie
2014-01-30 Don Simons dsim...@roadrunner.com:

 So problem solved? Why go any further?

Well, actually M-Tx is supposed to be clever enough to
do this (and does, when it is a plain barline). So failing
to do so when it is a repeat counts as a bug. I'll try to
hunt it down (although I've stopped thinking of myself
as M-Tx maintainer after some others, notably Christian,
have stepped into the breach).

Dirk
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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

2014-01-29 Thread Wojtek Chemijewski
Hello,

My apologies for not being precise enough and not pasting the complete example!

Following the Don's advice, I have came up with a piece that compiles:

===
Title: In the Lord I'll be ever thankful
Composer: m. J. Berthier, Taiz\'e
Style: SATB
Flats: 1
Meter: m1/4/3/4
Systems: 1
Pages: 1
Space: 6
PMX: I
PMX: Ap

%% w175m \\def\writebarno{\relax}\
%% \\stdbarrules\
f8 g |:
d8 e |:
L: In the
a8 c |:
d8 c |:

m3/4/0/0 a4 a8 a g f | e4 c oc f8 g
m3/4/0/0 f4 f8 f c c | e4 c d8 e
L: Lord I'll be ev-er thank-ful, in the
m3/4/0/0 c4 c8 c f- f | f4 e oc a8 c
m3/4/0/0 f4 f8 f a- a | b4 c d8 c
===

The one which does compile and looks good but contains no repeat is:

===
Title: In the Lord I'll be ever thankful
Composer: m. J. Berthier, Taiz\'e
Style: SATB
Flats: 1
Meter: 3/4
Systems: 1
Pages: 1
Space: 6
PMX: I
PMX: Ap

%% w175m \\def\writebarno{\relax}\
%% \\stdbarrules\
f8 g | a4 a8 a g f | e4 c oc f8 g
d8 e | f4 f8 f c c | e4 c d8 e
L: In the Lord I'll be ev-er thank-ful, in the
a8 c | c4 c8 c f- f | f4 e oc a8 c
d8 c | f4 f8 f a- a | b4 c d8 c
===

Following also compiles and looks good, but the repeat is instead of
the second bar line and not the first:

===
Title: In the Lord I'll be ever thankful
Composer: m. J. Berthier, Taiz\'e
Style: SATB
Flats: 1
Meter: 3/4
Systems: 1
Pages: 1
Space: 6
PMX: I
PMX: Ap

%% w175m \\def\writebarno{\relax}\
%% \\stdbarrules\
f8 g | a4 a8 a g f |: e4 c oc f8 g
d8 e | f4 f8 f c c |: e4 c d8 e
L: In the Lord I'll be ev-er thank-ful, in the
a8 c | c4 c8 c f- f |: f4 e oc a8 c
d8 c | f4 f8 f a- a |: b4 c d8 c
===

The following does compile with M-TX, but there is an PMX error:

===
Title: In the Lord I'll be ever thankful
Composer: m. J. Berthier, Taiz\'e
Style: SATB
Flats: 1
Meter: 3/4
Systems: 1
Pages: 1
Space: 6
PMX: I
PMX: Ap

%% w175m \\def\writebarno{\relax}\
%% \\stdbarrules\
f8 g |: a4 a8 a g f | e4 c oc f8 g
d8 e |: f4 f8 f c c | e4 c d8 e
L: In the Lord I'll be ev-er thank-ful, in the
a8 c |: c4 c8 c f- f | f4 e oc a8 c
d8 c |: f4 f8 f a- a | b4 c d8 c
===

== This is M-Tx 0.60d (Music from TeXt) 11 October 2008
== Input from file panjest.mtx
Writing to panjest.pmx
Blind meter change to 1/4 on line 14
PrePMX done.  Now run PMX.

 This is PMX, Version 2.7  , 3 Apr 13
 Opening panjest.pmx

 Starting first PMX pass

  Bar 1

 ERROR in line 33, bar 2 Bar line marker out of place
  v
 fa8- fa8 | f4 e4 oc /


Finally, this one does not compile with M-TX:

===
Title: In the Lord I'll be ever thankful
Composer: m. J. Berthier, Taiz\'e
Style: SATB
Flats: 1
Meter: 3/4
Systems: 1
Pages: 1
Space: 6
PMX: I
PMX: Ap

%% w175m \\def\writebarno{\relax}\
%% \\stdbarrules\
f8 g |:
d8 e |:
L: In the
a8 c |:
d8 c |:

a4 a8 a g f | e4 c oc f8 g
f4 f8 f c c | e4 c d8 e
L: Lord I'll be ev-er thank-ful, in the
c4 c8 c f- f | f4 e oc a8 c
f4 f8 f a- a | b4 c d8 c
===

== This is M-Tx 0.60d (Music from TeXt) 11 October 2008
== Input from file panjest.mtx
Writing to panjest.pmx
Line has 0 bars + 16/64 notes
   Line does not end at complete bar: ERROR on line 14
f8 g8 |:

Thank you for all your help!

Best regards
Wojtek




2014-01-29 Dirk Laurie dirk.lau...@gmail.com:
 2014-01-29 Wojtek Chemijewski wojtek.chemijew...@gmail.com:

 == This is M-Tx 0.60d (Music from TeXt) 11 October 2008
 == Input from file panjest.mtx
 Writing to panjest.pmx
 Line has 1 bar + 16/64 notes
Line does not end at complete bar: ERROR on line 15
 f8 g8 |: a4 a8 a8 g8 f8

 Please post a complete example file. Your snippet does not
 contain 15 lines, so there is no way to tell what went wrong.
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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

2014-01-28 Thread Don Simons
I'm not an M-Tx user and did not succeed in getting any part of the
(incomplete) example to compile.

But in PMX, you can start out with a block of input in the meter of the
pickup bar, specified for example as 1 4 3 4 (so the 3/4 prints out as the
meter), then start a brand new input block with a blind meter change
m3/4/0/0 and do the rest of the piece. I suspect something similar might
work in M-Tx.

I'm surprised though that your pickup worked at all without explicitly
telling M-Tx about it.

It would be a lot easier to diagnose your problem if you included an excerpt
of the source that would compile.

--Don Simons

-Original Message-
From: TeX-Music [mailto:tex-music-boun...@tug.org] On Behalf Of Wojtek
Chemijewski
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:22 PM
To: tex-music@tug.org
Subject: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

Hello Experts,

I am using M-Tx and trying to typeset a song, which starts from a
shorter bar and then goes all the way 3/4, like this:

U: d C F
f8 g | a4 a8 a g f | ... [subsequent bars]
d8 e | f4 f8 f c c | ...
L: Pan jest mo-cą Swo-je-go ...
L: In the Lord I'll be ev-er ...
a8 c | c4 c8 c f- f | ...
d8 c | f4 f8 f a- a | ...

This works. But when I use a repeat after the first bar, like this:

U: d C F
f8 g |: a4 a8 a g f | ...
d8 e |: f4 f8 f c c | ...
L: Pan jest mo-cą Swo-je-go ...
L: In the Lord I'll be ev-er ...
a8 c |: c4 c8 c f- f | ...
d8 c |: f4 f8 f a- a | ...

Then prepmx fails:

== This is M-Tx 0.60d (Music from TeXt) 11 October 2008
== Input from file panjest.mtx
Writing to panjest.pmx
Line has 1 bar + 16/64 notes
   Line does not end at complete bar: ERROR on line 15
f8 g8 |: a4 a8 a8 g8 f8

Is there a way to workaround this?

Thank you very much and best regards
Wojtek

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Re: [Tex-music] M-Tx, first bar shorter and then a repeat

2014-01-28 Thread Dirk Laurie
2014-01-29 Wojtek Chemijewski wojtek.chemijew...@gmail.com:

 == This is M-Tx 0.60d (Music from TeXt) 11 October 2008
 == Input from file panjest.mtx
 Writing to panjest.pmx
 Line has 1 bar + 16/64 notes
Line does not end at complete bar: ERROR on line 15
 f8 g8 |: a4 a8 a8 g8 f8

Please post a complete example file. Your snippet does not
contain 15 lines, so there is no way to tell what went wrong.
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