[SWR] NCKMS not shutdown! Detailed schedule now posted
Dear Friends, The ongoing government shutdown has had many adverse effects across the country, but I'm happy to say that the National Cave and Karst Management Symposium (NCKMS) is still on schedule to be an excellent meeting at NCKRI Headquarters in Carlsbad, New Mexico. NCKRI is co-hosting this meeting with the Bureau of Land Management, National Park Service, and US Forest Service. If the shutdown continues until the conference date of 4-8 November 2013, we have options and assistance in place to make up for where our federal friends won't be able to help. So if you haven't registered yet, do! Not convinced? The detailed schedule has now been posted. Check out http://nckri.org/nckms2013. Click on the Schedule tab to see the general schedule. If you just put your cursor over Schedule you'll find drop-down menus with the schedules of the three days of 42 great talks. It's not too late to register for the great workshops and field trips that are also offered. Remember, the field trips are included in the price of registration. If you can't stay the full week, day passes are available! Please share or post this message with anyone you think may be interested. I look forward to seeing you soon in Carlsbad, George George Veni, Ph.D. Executive Director National Cave and Karst Research Institute 400-1 Cascades Avenue Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA Office: 575-887-5517 Mobile: 210-863-5919 Fax: 575-887-5523 gv...@nckri.orgmailto:gv...@nckri.org www.nckri.orghttp://www.nckri.org ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
texascavers Digest 13 Oct 2013 19:57:19 -0000 Issue 1863
texascavers Digest 13 Oct 2013 19:57:19 - Issue 1863 Topics (messages 22864 through 22873): Aggie caving related 22864 by: David 22865 by: Mimi Jasek Re: caver Tommy Joe 22866 by: David 22867 by: Stefan Creaser Re: Ladder-falling 101 22868 by: Fritz Holt 22869 by: Fritz Holt Re: 65th Birthday party for Bill Steele at the Texas Caver's Reunion next Friday 22870 by: Fritz Holt TCMA Announcements 22871 by: Saj Zappitello 22872 by: Saj Zappitello NCKMS not shutdown! Detailed schedule now posted 22873 by: George Veni Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- It is the opinion of several old Aggie Cavers, that the 40th Anniversary is this semester. I heard a rumor of some cavers talking about it. I am not in the loop of communication in any way. If no party is being planned, then I would propose something in the Houston area in the spring of 2014. In 1993 at TCR, about 15 Aggie's posed for a 20-year Reunion photo that I have never seen. Ernie Garza Jay Jorden were the photographers. That reunion lasted about 120 seconds. I have been told the faculty adviser has been the same guy for at least 30 years. A former caver, Bob Lytton. Right ? He deserves a huge award. David Locklear 1987 V.P. A.S.S. ( Disclaimer: there were only 2 cavers in the A.S.S, and we were both appointed by the outgoing 1986 president, who graduated and moved away. ) ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- That is probably correct. Alicia Wisener Gale was a Temple Caver, as was I and my younger sister Jane, and one of my younger sister's best friends. If memory serves, most of the Temple Cavers headed to college in the fall of 1973, the majority going to UT in Austin. No way was Alicia going to be left out going to AM, so as far as I remember, she found an advisor and instigated the A.S.S. grotto that fall. She and her husband John Gale are, I believe, still listed in last year's NSS member list, although I do not know if they still cave. James Jasek and Chuck Stuehm were the major mentors for the Temple Cavers before they split to go their separate academic ways. As far as I know, I am the only member still actively caving, although Tommy Joe may still go sometimes when not being one of our fantastic TCR cooks:) From the dregs of my early caving memories - Mimi Jasek Sent from my iPhone On Oct 11, 2013, at 7:07 PM, David dlocklea...@gmail.com wrote: It is the opinion of several old Aggie Cavers, that the 40th Anniversary is this semester. I heard a rumor of some cavers talking about it. I am not in the loop of communication in any way. If no party is being planned, then I would propose something in the Houston area in the spring of 2014. In 1993 at TCR, about 15 Aggie's posed for a 20-year Reunion photo that I have never seen. Ernie Garza Jay Jorden were the photographers. That reunion lasted about 120 seconds. I have been told the faculty adviser has been the same guy for at least 30 years. A former caver, Bob Lytton. Right ? He deserves a huge award. David Locklear 1987 V.P. A.S.S. ( Disclaimer: there were only 2 cavers in the A.S.S, and we were both appointed by the outgoing 1986 president, who graduated and moved away. ) ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I bumped into Timmy Joe at a Cajun restaurant in downtown Houston about 2 years ago. He subtly indicated to me that he had other hobbies occupying his spare time. My fuzzy memory recalls something about a bad back or bad knee, etc. Feel free to correct me. David Locklear ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Was fine last time i saw him. Better get that memory of yours fixed up David! Was it the bump on the head from falling of the ladder? Cheers, Stefan From: David [dlocklea...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 October 2013 23:11 To: CaveTex Subject: [Texascavers] Re: caver Tommy Joe I bumped into Timmy Joe at a Cajun restaurant in downtown Houston about 2 years ago. He subtly indicated to me that he had other hobbies occupying his spare time. My fuzzy memory recalls something about a bad back or bad knee, etc. Feel free to correct me. David Locklear -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you. ARM Limited, Registered office 110 Fulbourn Road, Cambridge CB1 9NJ, Registered in England
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Mike, did you try to subscribe a yahoo account to the texascavers (cavetex) mailing list?
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NO, I would suggest that you check every yahoo new address since they are free and easy to attack cavers. Thanks, Mike Walsh Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: Mike, did you try to subscribe a yahoo account to the texascavers (cavetex) mailing list?
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I always do, it won't be allowed on the list. Thanks On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:28 PM, mikewaus...@austin.rr.com wrote: NO, I would suggest that you check every yahoo new address since they are free and easy to attack cavers. Thanks, Mike Walsh Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: Mike, did you try to subscribe a yahoo account to the texascavers (cavetex) mailing list?
Re: Fwd: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com
I think that someone may have access to my e-mail accounts. I did recently add a yahoo e-mail account to use as a safe site. They did send the address and the password to me and that may have been read as well. What is the yahoo address that you have that you thought was me. If it is the same as the one I set up then I have been hacked big time. I will post nothing on your site until this problem goes away. Thank you for working to keep you site clean. Mike Walsh Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: Mike, did you try to subscribe a yahoo account to the texascavers (cavetex) mailing list?
Re: Fwd: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com
mikewalsh...@yahoo.com It looked suspicious, thats why I asked. Sorry I didn't take your call, on a work call right now. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM, mikewaus...@austin.rr.com wrote: I think that someone may have access to my e-mail accounts. I did recently add a yahoo e-mail account to use as a safe site. They did send the address and the password to me and that may have been read as well. What is the yahoo address that you have that you thought was me. If it is the same as the one I set up then I have been hacked big time. I will post nothing on your site until this problem goes away. Thank you for working to keep you site clean. Mike Walsh Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: Mike, did you try to subscribe a yahoo account to the texascavers (cavetex) mailing list?
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Thank you. That is not the address but I am closing all of my e-mail accounts and going underground. Stop by if you will be a OTR, once again, thanks, the real Mike Walsh. Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: mikewalsh...@yahoo.com It looked suspicious, thats why I asked. Sorry I didn't take your call, on a work call right now. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM, mikewaus...@austin.rr.com wrote: I think that someone may have access to my e-mail accounts. I did recently add a yahoo e-mail account to use as a safe site. They did send the address and the password to me and that may have been read as well. What is the yahoo address that you have that you thought was me. If it is the same as the one I set up then I have been hacked big time. I will post nothing on your site until this problem goes away. Thank you for working to keep you site clean. Mike Walsh Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: Mike, did you try to subscribe a yahoo account to the texascavers (cavetex) mailing list?
Re: Fwd: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com
Not a problem Mike, someone just created that email address with the intent
to cause problems.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 3:13 PM, mikewaus...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Thank you. That is not the address but I am closing all of my e-mail
accounts and going underground. Stop by if you will be a OTR, once again,
thanks, the real Mike Walsh.
Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
mikewalsh...@yahoo.com
It looked suspicious, thats why I asked.
Sorry I didn't take your call, on a work call right now.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM, mikewaus...@austin.rr.com wrote:
I think that someone may have access to my e-mail accounts. I did
recently add a yahoo e-mail account to use as a safe site. They did
send
the address and the password to me and that may have been read as well.
What is the yahoo address that you have that you thought was me. If
it is
the same as the one I set up then I have been hacked big time. I will
post
nothing on your site until this problem goes away. Thank you for
working
to keep you site clean. Mike Walsh
Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
Mike, did you try to subscribe a yahoo account to the texascavers
(cavetex)
mailing list?
Re: Fwd: CONFIRM subscribe to texascavers@texascavers.com
Charlie, Well I already changed my mind. I would like to post One Last Note. Please review it and see if it is acceptable. Your site is the best way to put the word out. I would like to continue to subscribe as a way to see what slips by. Following this post I will create a yahoo.com address to subscribe so I can receive the postings. I will give you that address by telephone. Thank you Mike Walsh Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: mikewalsh...@yahoo.com It looked suspicious, thats why I asked. Sorry I didn't take your call, on a work call right now. On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM, mikewaus...@austin.rr.com wrote: I think that someone may have access to my e-mail accounts. I did recently add a yahoo e-mail account to use as a safe site. They did send the address and the password to me and that may have been read as well. What is the yahoo address that you have that you thought was me. If it is the same as the one I set up then I have been hacked big time. I will post nothing on your site until this problem goes away. Thank you for working to keep you site clean. Mike Walsh Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote: Mike, did you try to subscribe a yahoo account to the texascavers (cavetex) mailing list? Once Last Note.doc Description: MS-Word document
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I wouldn't suggest posting that email address, change it to something like
I won't be posting to the mailing list using any emails.
Also, I wouldn't suggest you use yahoo, it's too easy to hack into it these
days. I'll post the letter from my email address if you want.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 3:50 PM, mikewaus...@austin.rr.com wrote:
Charlie, Well I already changed my mind. I would like to post One Last
Note. Please review it and see if it is acceptable. Your site is the best
way to put the word out. I would like to continue to subscribe as a way to
see what slips by. Following this post I will create a yahoo.com address
to subscribe so I can receive the postings. I will give you that address
by telephone. Thank you Mike Walsh
Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
mikewalsh...@yahoo.com
It looked suspicious, thats why I asked.
Sorry I didn't take your call, on a work call right now.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 2:42 PM, mikewaus...@austin.rr.com wrote:
I think that someone may have access to my e-mail accounts. I did
recently add a yahoo e-mail account to use as a safe site. They did
send
the address and the password to me and that may have been read as well.
What is the yahoo address that you have that you thought was me. If
it is
the same as the one I set up then I have been hacked big time. I will
post
nothing on your site until this problem goes away. Thank you for
working
to keep you site clean. Mike Walsh
Charles Goldsmith wo...@justfamily.org wrote:
Mike, did you try to subscribe a yahoo account to the texascavers
(cavetex)
mailing list?
Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results
I, for one, would like to see the total elections results, including write-ins, invalid votes, etc. Jim Mobile email from my iPhone On Oct 9, 2013, at 4:52 PM, Louise Power power_lou...@hotmail.com wrote: Does this come as a big surprise to anyone, since there was only one candidate for each office? CC: texascavers@texascavers.com From: donarb...@mac.com Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 16:40:00 -0500 To: ellie.tho...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Texascavers] TSA Election Results Congratulations!! Sent cellularly. -Don On Oct 7, 2013, at 9:19 AM, ellie.tho...@gmail.com wrote: TSA Members, TSA Annual Officer Elections closed October 4th and I am happy to announce the following winners: Chairman- Kurt Menking Vice-Chairman - Roger Moore Secretary -Heather Tucek Treasurer- Anne Scott Elected officers will take office on the first day of the New Year 2014. We had a 49% voter participation of all registered members with email addresses on file. Thank you for voting and thanks for your support of TSA!
[Texascavers] Government Canyon Karst Project
The November Government Canyon Karst Project will not be held on the first weekend of the month as is usual. Instead the project date will be Sunday, Nov. 10. This will be a Sunday only project. Camping is available for Saturday and Sunday night. Contact me to arrange that, or with any other project-related questions. We meet at 9:00 at the Volunteer/Research Station. After entering the park at the main gate, take the first right. Go through the closed gate (make sure to close it again behind you) and proceed approximately 1 mile to the VRS. We usually meet in the parking lot to the right. Marvin Miller
