texascavers Digest 14 Jan 2014 16:56:11 -0000 Issue 1913
texascavers Digest 14 Jan 2014 16:56:11 - Issue 1913 Topics (messages 23259 through 23260): UT Grotto Meeting January 15th 23259 by: Andrea Croskrey Boesmansgat 23260 by: Mark Minton Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-subscr...@texascavers.com To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: texascavers-digest-unsubscr...@texascavers.com To post to the list, e-mail: texascavers@texascavers.com -- ---BeginMessage--- Howdy Texas Cavers! Kickoff the New Year at the first grotto meeting for 2014! This Wednesday Guin McDaid and Andy Edwards will be sharing their recent caving exploits. Guin will share pictures and stories made while looking for caves at Big Bend Ranch State Park and Andy will be presenting on the latest trip in Fisher Ridge Cave in Kentucky. See you there! We will now be meeting at 7:45pm in *Burdine 136*. Follow this link to a map of where the building is located on the University of Texas campus: http://www.utexas.edu/maps/main/buildings/bur.html For information on Underground Texas Grotto activities, please see www.utgrotto.org Before the meeting, take advantage of Sao Paulo www.saopaulos.net for happy hour specials. Attendance by cavers varies but this area is the best place to park and meet folks walking over to the meeting. Then after the official meeting, we continue with the decades long tradition to reconvene for burgers, beer, and tall tales of caving at Posse East. www.posse-east.com Cavingly, Andrea Croskrey UT Grotto Vice Chair ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- Last Sunday on NPR's This American Life the third segment was about a famous body recovery in Boesmansgat (Bushmansgat) in South Africa. It's a good recounting of the tale of cave diver Dave Shaw who discovered the body of a missing diver and vowed to bring it out. In the process he died himself. Boesmansgat is one of the world's deepest underwater caves. The story is at http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/515/good-guys, Act 3. Mark Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org ---End Message---
[Texascavers] robot related - not yet caving topic
9 years and 3 months ago, I posted something about how excited I was to witness the birth of my daughter and I nicknamed her Cavepearl. The link below shows her in a brown vest on a live tv news program broadcast this morning in Spanish throughout southeast Texas. https://db.tt/QlkX4RPZ What was exciting about this, is all of the studio cameraman had been replaced by real robots. I took this picture with my phone, while standing behind one of the robots in the studio of Univision. All 4 robots were tethered with a cord to a laptop operated by one geeky looking guy. I can see clearly now that robots are coming and they will be doing things we never imagined. While these robots could not go caving, I can see something similar to these robots at the NSS Banquet serving cavers their food, or video-taping the award ceremony, or serving as information kiosk in the hallways, or helping the vendors with gear sales. On a related note, the video in the link below is of today's tv segment, featuring Cavepearl. ( I could only find it on Facebook. ) https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=760312710664416set=vb.239977856031240type=2theater David Locklear
Re: [Texascavers] robot related - not yet caving topic
Actually robotic vehicles are being used to explore, map, and photograph tombs in Maya-land and other parts of the world -- and cave passages under pyramids -- before humans are allowed (or able) to enter. This is different from the tube-wire-camera things used to peer under doors, into tombs, sealed caves, and (as I have recently done) look back into low areas that humans cannot yet get through to look at archeological materials back in those passages. With correct software it is possible to produce accurate 3D maps and 3D images. I don't see how this will not be done in caving in the not too distant future (if it's not being done now). Haven't you noticed what's going on on Mars (and other) exploration with remote vehicles? Terrestrial vehicles have been used for quite some time, with constant improvements, and now the big push is aerial (drones) with photographic, real-time-video, and 3D mapping capabilities (which many people are now using) -- and these can be used right now to explore, photograph, and map just about any pit or large cave room in the world. Stone and others are already using similar technology underwater, and lidar and photogrammetry are now commonplace (e.g., Devils Sinkhole). These might not be full-fledged robots, but they're getting pretty close. John Greer - Original Message - From: David To: CaveTex Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 5:31 PM Subject: [Texascavers] robot related - not yet caving topic I can see clearly now that robots are coming and they will be doing things we never imagined. While these robots could not go caving, I can see something similar to these robots at the NSS Banquet serving cavers their food, or video-taping the award ceremony, or serving as information kiosk in the hallways, or helping the vendors with gear sales. David Locklear
[Texascavers] radio program
I didn't manage to persuade my browser to play that radio program on attempted body recovery in Bushmansgat. Maybe that's because it sure isn't obvious on the page how to do it, or maybe it's because I'm using an obsolete version of Safari. But there's a whole book on the subject: Raising the Dead, by Phillip Finch, Harper Sport 2008. -- Mixon A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone’s feelings unintentionally. You may reply to the address this message came from, but for long-term use, save: Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu AMCS: a...@amcs-pubs.org or sa...@amcs-pubs.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
Re: [Texascavers] radio program
At 07:11 PM 1/14/2014, Mixon Bill wrote: I didn't manage to persuade my browser to play that radio program on attempted body recovery in Bushmansgat. Maybe that's because it sure isn't obvious on the page how to do it, or maybe it's because I'm using an obsolete version of Safari. But there's a whole book on the subject: Raising the Dead, by Phillip Finch, Harper Sport 2008. -- Mixon Instead of streaming the show in real time, it is often better to download it and then listen after you have the complete file. The first option near the top of the page is download: http://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/podcast.thisamericanlife.org/podcast/515.mp3. You get an MP3 file that should play on any media player. You can also download a transcript for a text version: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/515/transcript Mark At 11:56 AM 1/14/2014, Mark Minton wrote: Last Sunday on NPR's This American Life the third segment was about a famous body recovery in Boesmansgat (Bushmansgat) in South Africa. It's a good recounting of the tale of cave diver Dave Shaw who discovered the body of a missing diver and vowed to bring it out. In the process he died himself. Boesmansgat is one of the world's deepest underwater caves. The story is at http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/515/good-guys, Act 3. Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] a video of a Mexican cave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-7tto9-A7A This cave appears to be about a 2 hour drive north of the town that was in the news today, ( the story that the American networks picked up concerning an alleged raid against an alleged gang calling themselves the Knights Templar. ) ***I am only suggesting that there are interesting caves in the area.*** The aerial view looks igneous. approximate coordinates ( see note below ) 19.652934,-102.011847 I will let someone else with more info elaborate, but this La Cueva de Hurumutaro looks historically interesting at least, but I doubt it goes all the way to Uruapan, about 15 miles ( as the bird flies ) south of there, as the description by the YouTube uploader suggest. David Locklear Disclaimer: The YouTube description suggest it is near the ejido village in the hills above the town of Aranza which would put it a few kilometers southeast of that town, based on the aerial view - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[Texascavers] O-9 Well trip report, January 11
Hola, Andrea Croskrey and myself went to O-9 Well last weekend in order to continue surveying the infeeder that's heading north-west, taking off from the main upstream passage about half-way between the entrance and the upstream sump. There was some interesting biology to observe in the cave: tons of cave crickets in the entrance, and many throughout the cave, and some even on the surface in daylight. (Usually, there are few at best.) And a little field mouse running around in the bottom of the entrance. On the way to our survey, we checked a number of question marks from previous survey trips that I wanted to look at and took a few photos. This cost use a few hours, and changing into wetsuits when arriving at the infeeder and making our way to the actual end of the previous survey took another while. Out of our 10 hours in the cave, we only spent about 4 hours on the actual survey, resulting in about 60 meters of passage added. The passage is fairly muddy, the stuff that will stick to everything including itself, and often a little bit of standing or streaming water is present. It varies in size from almost squeezy to a few spots where one is able to stand. The lead continues in a hands-and-knees crawl that seems to go for another while, muddy, with a little bit of water. The passage ahead has been labeled by previous visitors (no evidence of survey that far along in the infeeder) as Perverts Alley (written in mud). Sounds worse than it looks to me, though. ;-) Cheers, David -- David Ochel -= http://blog.ochel.net =- - Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
[SWR] Boesmansgat
Last Sunday on NPR's This American Life the third segment was about a famous body recovery in Boesmansgat (Bushmansgat) in South Africa. It's a good recounting of the tale of cave diver Dave Shaw who discovered the body of a missing diver and vowed to bring it out. In the process he died himself. Boesmansgat is one of the world's deepest underwater caves. The story is at http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/515/good-guys, Act 3. Mark Please reply to mmin...@caver.net Permanent email address is mmin...@illinoisalumni.org ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
