Re: [Texascavers] Jack Prince, first person to cross Devil's Delight ledge in Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora)

[Katherine Arens]

Share with the Texas Caver  and TSS

On Dec 11, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Fritz Holt 
mailto:fritz...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Thanks, George. I may be able to write of one or two more early caving 
adventures and furnish some pictures. Fritz

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 11, 2018, at 2:02 PM, PRESTON FORSYTHE 
mailto:pns_...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:

Fritz--What a weekend!!


Preston in Browder, KY

On Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM CST, Fritz Holt 
mailto:fritz...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I had not met Jack Prince but knew of his ledge crossing and great discovery. 
In December of 1955 or January 1956 I was stationed at Ft. Bliss in El Paso and 
had corresponded with good caving friend Jimmy Walker of Waelder, TX.  Jimmy 
said he was leaving on Friday to check out a cave that a Dallas caving group 
had just discovered on The Mayfield Ranch near Sonora and invited me to meet 
him there. Fortunately, I did not have K.P. or guard duty that weekend so I 
loaded my gear in the car and headed east. I arrived at the ranch house at 2:00 
AM Saturday morning and awakened Mr. Mayfield. He advised me that my party was 
camped under some trees about 500 feet south of his house and near the cave 
entrance. I slept in my car until first light and then joined the group in 
building a fire and eating some breakfast. We then descended into what was to 
be the most beautifully decorated underground wonderland that any of us had 
seen before or since. By the way, Jimmy’s two friends who accompanied us on 
this trip were Bob Hudson and his brother-in-law Ralph.
Once in the cave, it did not take long to reach the ledge that had been 
described to Jimmy. The drop to the floor below appeared to be 30 or 40 feet 
and looked perilous. Jimmy remembers that it was Ralph who crossed the ledge to 
secure a rope to a distant formation to give us some sense of security. My 
memory is that there was an existing rope already attached from the previous 
expedition. Jimmy believed we were the third group to cross the ledge after the 
Prince group did so in September. 1955.  Carl Kunath believes we were the fifth 
or sixth group to make the crossing. Jimmy told me that he had previously 
received a call from Prince or a member of his group asking for a 
recommendation for a cave to visit. Jimmy had a trip planned for that same 
September, 1955
period and did not want the competition so he told them they might want to 
check out a cave on the Mayfield Ranch which was some distance from Jimmy’s 
planned trip. Little did he know what the other group would discover. It goes 
without saying that the two days spent in Mayfield were the best of all my 
caving experiences. The formations were and I hope still are the most beautiful 
anyone could ever hope to see. I have never been back but hope to visit again. 
Friend Preston McMichael (deceased) and Lyndon TU said the cave office has a 
picture displayed of 21 year old Fritz Holt looking up at a six foot soda 
straw. Jimmy Walker took this picture and others on our trip to the cave. I 
think I have several. I hope I haven’t bored all with my nostalgic 
recollections.

Fritz F. Holt
12737 Silver Creek Rd.
Dripping Springs, TX 78620
fritz...@gmail.com
713-818-2496
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:30 PM, George Veni 
mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote:


Thanks Logan. I’ve forwarded your message to the owners of Caverns of Sonora 
just in case they didn’t know.



I met Jack once there during the 50th anniversary of the ledge crossing. He 
told me that he and his team didn’t really think of the crossing as a big deal 
and didn’t rig a safety line for there first few trips, even when they crossed 
it with duffel bags during a cave camp trip. I crossed the ledge a couple of 
times while sketching that part of the cave and it looks a lot more treacherous 
from the tourist trail than from the direction of exploration. There is a 
frequently distributed photo of someone crossing the ledge and being high up on 
the slope next to the safety line. Jack and I agreed that the best place to 
cross is to walk right along the edge of the ledge. The floor is flat with a 
grippy surface there, making it very easy for much of the traverse. Although I 
wouldn’t do it without that safety line.



Jack also told me the he was elected to cross the ledge first because he was 
the most experienced, something I’d heard many times. I asked him how 
experienced and he said, “I think it was my third caving trip.”



George





George Veni, PhD

Executive Director, National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)

and

President, International Union of Speleology (UIS)



NCKRI address (primary)

400-1 Cascades Avenue

Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA

Office: +575-887-5517

Mobile: +210-863-5919

Fax: +575-887-5523

gv...@nckri.org

www.nckri.org



UIS address

Titov trg 2

Postojna, 6230, Slovenia

Re: [Texascavers] Jack Prince, first person to cross Devil's Delight ledge in Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora)

[Fritz Holt]

Thanks, George. I may be able to write of one or two more early caving 
adventures and furnish some pictures. Fritz

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 11, 2018, at 2:02 PM, PRESTON FORSYTHE  wrote:
> 
> Fritz--What a weekend!!
> 
> 
> Preston in Browder, KY
> 
> On Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM CST, Fritz Holt 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I had not met Jack Prince but knew of his ledge crossing and great discovery. 
> In December of 1955 or January 1956 I was stationed at Ft. Bliss in El Paso 
> and had corresponded with good caving friend Jimmy Walker of Waelder, TX.  
> Jimmy said he was leaving on Friday to check out a cave that a Dallas caving 
> group had just discovered on The Mayfield Ranch near Sonora and invited me to 
> meet him there. Fortunately, I did not have K.P. or guard duty that weekend 
> so I loaded my gear in the car and headed east. I arrived at the ranch house 
> at 2:00 AM Saturday morning and awakened Mr. Mayfield. He advised me that my 
> party was camped under some trees about 500 feet south of his house and near 
> the cave entrance. I slept in my car until first light and then joined the 
> group in building a fire and eating some breakfast. We then descended into 
> what was to be the most beautifully decorated underground wonderland that any 
> of us had seen before or since. By the way, Jimmy’s two friends who 
> accompanied us on this trip were Bob Hudson and his brother-in-law Ralph. 
> Once in the cave, it did not take long to reach the ledge that had been 
> described to Jimmy. The drop to the floor below appeared to be 30 or 40 feet 
> and looked perilous. Jimmy remembers that it was Ralph who crossed the ledge 
> to secure a rope to a distant formation to give us some sense of security. My 
> memory is that there was an existing rope already attached from the previous 
> expedition. Jimmy believed we were the third group to cross the ledge after 
> the Prince group did so in September. 1955.  Carl Kunath believes we were the 
> fifth or sixth group to make the crossing. Jimmy told me that he had 
> previously received a call from Prince or a member of his group asking for a 
> recommendation for a cave to visit. Jimmy had a trip planned for that same 
> September, 1955 
> period and did not want the competition so he told them they might want to 
> check out a cave on the Mayfield Ranch which was some distance from Jimmy’s 
> planned trip. Little did he know what the other group would discover. It goes 
> without saying that the two days spent in Mayfield were the best of all my 
> caving experiences. The formations were and I hope still are the most 
> beautiful anyone could ever hope to see. I have never been back but hope to 
> visit again. Friend Preston McMichael (deceased) and Lyndon TU said the cave 
> office has a picture displayed of 21 year old Fritz Holt looking up at a six 
> foot soda straw. Jimmy Walker took this picture and others on our trip to the 
> cave. I think I have several. I hope I haven’t bored all with my nostalgic 
> recollections. 
> 
> Fritz F. Holt
> 12737 Silver Creek Rd. 
> Dripping Springs, TX 78620
> fritz...@gmail.com
> 713-818-2496
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:30 PM, George Veni  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Thanks Logan. I’ve forwarded your message to the owners of Caverns of Sonora 
> just in case they didn’t know.
> 
>  
> 
> I met Jack once there during the 50th anniversary of the ledge crossing. He 
> told me that he and his team didn’t really think of the crossing as a big 
> deal and didn’t rig a safety line for there first few trips, even when they 
> crossed it with duffel bags during a cave camp trip. I crossed the ledge a 
> couple of times while sketching that part of the cave and it looks a lot more 
> treacherous from the tourist trail than from the direction of exploration. 
> There is a frequently distributed photo of someone crossing the ledge and 
> being high up on the slope next to the safety line. Jack and I agreed that 
> the best place to cross is to walk right along the edge of the ledge. The 
> floor is flat with a grippy surface there, making it very easy for much of 
> the traverse. Although I wouldn’t do it without that safety line.
> 
>  
> 
> Jack also told me the he was elected to cross the ledge first because he was 
> the most experienced, something I’d heard many times. I asked him how 
> experienced and he said, “I think it was my third caving trip.”
> 
>  
> 
> George
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> George Veni, PhD
> 
> Executive Director, National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
> 
> and
> 
> President, International Union of Speleology (UIS)
> 
>  
> 
> NCKRI address (primary)
> 
> 400-1 Cascades Avenue
> 
> Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA
> 
> Office: +575-887-5517
> 
> Mobile: +210-863-5919
> 
> Fax: +575-887-5523
> 
> gv...@nckri.org
> 
> www.nckri.org
> 
>  
> 
> UIS address
> 
> Titov trg 2
> 
> Postojna, 6230, Slovenia
> 
> www.uis-speleo.org
> 
>  
> 
> From: 

Re: [Texascavers] Jack Prince, first person to cross Devil's Delight ledge in Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora)

[PRESTON FORSYTHE]

 Fritz--What a weekend!!

Preston in Browder, KY
On Tuesday, December 11, 2018, 11:16:38 AM CST, Fritz Holt 
 wrote:  
 
 I had not met Jack Prince but knew of his ledge crossing and great discovery. 
In December of 1955 or January 1956 I was stationed at Ft. Bliss in El Paso and 
had corresponded with good caving friend Jimmy Walker of Waelder, TX.  Jimmy 
said he was leaving on Friday to check out a cave that a Dallas caving group 
had just discovered on The Mayfield Ranch near Sonora and invited me to meet 
him there. Fortunately, I did not have K.P. or guard duty that weekend so I 
loaded my gear in the car and headed east. I arrived at the ranch house at 2:00 
AM Saturday morning and awakened Mr. Mayfield. He advised me that my party was 
camped under some trees about 500 feet south of his house and near the cave 
entrance. I slept in my car until first light and then joined the group in 
building a fire and eating some breakfast. We then descended into what was to 
be the most beautifully decorated underground wonderland that any of us had 
seen before or since. By the way, Jimmy’s two friends who accompanied us on 
this trip were Bob Hudson and his brother-in-law Ralph. Once in the cave, it 
did not take long to reach the ledge that had been described to Jimmy. The drop 
to the floor below appeared to be 30 or 40 feet and looked perilous. Jimmy 
remembers that it was Ralph who crossed the ledge to secure a rope to a distant 
formation to give us some sense of security. My memory is that there was an 
existing rope already attached from the previous expedition. Jimmy believed we 
were the third group to cross the ledge after the Prince group did so in 
September. 1955.  Carl Kunath believes we were the fifth or sixth group to make 
the crossing. Jimmy told me that he had previously received a call from Prince 
or a member of his group asking for a recommendation for a cave to visit. Jimmy 
had a trip planned for that same September, 1955 
period and did not want the competition so he told them they might want to 
check out a cave on the Mayfield Ranch which was some distance from Jimmy’s 
planned trip. Little did he know what the other group would discover. It goes 
without saying that the two days spent in Mayfield were the best of all my 
caving experiences. The formations were and I hope still are the most beautiful 
anyone could ever hope to see. I have never been back but hope to visit again. 
Friend Preston McMichael (deceased) and Lyndon TU said the cave office has a 
picture displayed of 21 year old Fritz Holt looking up at a six foot soda 
straw. Jimmy Walker took this picture and others on our trip to the cave. I 
think I have several. I hope I haven’t bored all with my nostalgic 
recollections. 
Fritz F. Holt12737 Silver Creek Rd. Dripping Springs, TX 
78620fritztcr@gmail.com713-818-2496Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:30 PM, George Veni  wrote:



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Thanks Logan. I’ve forwarded your message to the owners of Caverns of Sonora 
just in case they didn’t know.
 
  
 
I met Jack once there during the 50th anniversary of the ledge crossing. He 
told me that he and his team didn’t really think of the crossing as a big deal 
and didn’t rig a safety line for there first few trips, even when they crossed 
it with duffel bags during a cave camp trip. I crossed the ledge a couple of 
times while sketching that part of the cave and it looks a lot more treacherous 
from the tourist trail than from the direction of exploration. There is a 
frequently distributed photo of someone crossing the ledge and being high up on 
the slope next to the safety line. Jack and I agreed that the best place to 
cross is to walk right along the 

Re: [Texascavers] Jack Prince, first person to cross Devil's Delight ledge in Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora)

[George Veni]

Fritz,

In my view, trips reports about actual caving are always welcome and never 
boring—even if the trip happened a few years ago. Thank you for sharing.

By the way, I measured the distance of the drop to the floor from the ledge 
while sketching the cave. I don’t recall the exact depth without checking my 
notes, but in any case it has changed and needs to be remeasured. During the 
cutting of tourist trails, a lot of rumble got dumped down the pit, raising the 
floor more than 2 m in some places. That rubble was still there when I measured 
the depth, but the restoration projects at the cave have since restored the 
floor to its natural condition and elevation.

George


George Veni, PhD
Executive Director, National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
and
President, International Union of Speleology (UIS)

NCKRI address (primary)
400-1 Cascades Avenue
Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA
Office: +575-887-5517
Mobile: +210-863-5919
Fax: +575-887-5523
gv...@nckri.org
www.nckri.org

UIS address
Titov trg 2
Postojna, 6230, Slovenia
www.uis-speleo.org

From: Texascavers  On Behalf Of Fritz Holt
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2018 10:16
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Cc: Janice Vieira ; June Levy ; Frank 
McAvoy ; Jimmy Wagner ; Jim Sherwin 
; Mandy Holt 
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Jack Prince, first person to cross Devil's Delight 
ledge in Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora)

I had not met Jack Prince but knew of his ledge crossing and great discovery. 
In December of 1955 or January 1956 I was stationed at Ft. Bliss in El Paso and 
had corresponded with good caving friend Jimmy Walker of Waelder, TX.  Jimmy 
said he was leaving on Friday to check out a cave that a Dallas caving group 
had just discovered on The Mayfield Ranch near Sonora and invited me to meet 
him there. Fortunately, I did not have K.P. or guard duty that weekend so I 
loaded my gear in the car and headed east. I arrived at the ranch house at 2:00 
AM Saturday morning and awakened Mr. Mayfield. He advised me that my party was 
camped under some trees about 500 feet south of his house and near the cave 
entrance. I slept in my car until first light and then joined the group in 
building a fire and eating some breakfast. We then descended into what was to 
be the most beautifully decorated underground wonderland that any of us had 
seen before or since. By the way, Jimmy’s two friends who accompanied us on 
this trip were Bob Hudson and his brother-in-law Ralph.
Once in the cave, it did not take long to reach the ledge that had been 
described to Jimmy. The drop to the floor below appeared to be 30 or 40 feet 
and looked perilous. Jimmy remembers that it was Ralph who crossed the ledge to 
secure a rope to a distant formation to give us some sense of security. My 
memory is that there was an existing rope already attached from the previous 
expedition. Jimmy believed we were the third group to cross the ledge after the 
Prince group did so in September. 1955.  Carl Kunath believes we were the fifth 
or sixth group to make the crossing. Jimmy told me that he had previously 
received a call from Prince or a member of his group asking for a 
recommendation for a cave to visit. Jimmy had a trip planned for that same 
September, 1955
period and did not want the competition so he told them they might want to 
check out a cave on the Mayfield Ranch which was some distance from Jimmy’s 
planned trip. Little did he know what the other group would discover. It goes 
without saying that the two days spent in Mayfield were the best of all my 
caving experiences. The formations were and I hope still are the most beautiful 
anyone could ever hope to see. I have never been back but hope to visit again. 
Friend Preston McMichael (deceased) and Lyndon TU said the cave office has a 
picture displayed of 21 year old Fritz Holt looking up at a six foot soda 
straw. Jimmy Walker took this picture and others on our trip to the cave. I 
think I have several. I hope I haven’t bored all with my nostalgic 
recollections.

Fritz F. Holt
12737 Silver Creek Rd.
Dripping Springs, TX 78620
fritz...@gmail.com
713-818-2496
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:30 PM, George Veni 
mailto:gv...@nckri.org>> wrote:
Thanks Logan. I’ve forwarded your message to the owners of Caverns of Sonora 
just in case they didn’t know.

I met Jack once there during the 50th anniversary of the ledge crossing. He 
told me that he and his team didn’t really think of the crossing as a big deal 
and didn’t rig a safety line for there first few trips, even when they crossed 
it with duffel bags during a cave camp trip. I crossed the ledge a couple of 
times while sketching that part of the cave and it looks a lot more treacherous 
from the tourist trail than from the direction of exploration. There is a 
frequently distributed photo of someone crossing the ledge and being 

Re: [Texascavers] Jack Prince, first person to cross Devil's Delight ledge in Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora)

[Fritz Holt]

I had not met Jack Prince but knew of his ledge crossing and great discovery. 
In December of 1955 or January 1956 I was stationed at Ft. Bliss in El Paso and 
had corresponded with good caving friend Jimmy Walker of Waelder, TX.  Jimmy 
said he was leaving on Friday to check out a cave that a Dallas caving group 
had just discovered on The Mayfield Ranch near Sonora and invited me to meet 
him there. Fortunately, I did not have K.P. or guard duty that weekend so I 
loaded my gear in the car and headed east. I arrived at the ranch house at 2:00 
AM Saturday morning and awakened Mr. Mayfield. He advised me that my party was 
camped under some trees about 500 feet south of his house and near the cave 
entrance. I slept in my car until first light and then joined the group in 
building a fire and eating some breakfast. We then descended into what was to 
be the most beautifully decorated underground wonderland that any of us had 
seen before or since. By the way, Jimmy’s two friends who accompanied us on 
this trip were Bob Hudson and his brother-in-law Ralph. 
Once in the cave, it did not take long to reach the ledge that had been 
described to Jimmy. The drop to the floor below appeared to be 30 or 40 feet 
and looked perilous. Jimmy remembers that it was Ralph who crossed the ledge to 
secure a rope to a distant formation to give us some sense of security. My 
memory is that there was an existing rope already attached from the previous 
expedition. Jimmy believed we were the third group to cross the ledge after the 
Prince group did so in September. 1955.  Carl Kunath believes we were the fifth 
or sixth group to make the crossing. Jimmy told me that he had previously 
received a call from Prince or a member of his group asking for a 
recommendation for a cave to visit. Jimmy had a trip planned for that same 
September, 1955 
period and did not want the competition so he told them they might want to 
check out a cave on the Mayfield Ranch which was some distance from Jimmy’s 
planned trip. Little did he know what the other group would discover. It goes 
without saying that the two days spent in Mayfield were the best of all my 
caving experiences. The formations were and I hope still are the most beautiful 
anyone could ever hope to see. I have never been back but hope to visit again. 
Friend Preston McMichael (deceased) and Lyndon TU said the cave office has a 
picture displayed of 21 year old Fritz Holt looking up at a six foot soda 
straw. Jimmy Walker took this picture and others on our trip to the cave. I 
think I have several. I hope I haven’t bored all with my nostalgic 
recollections. 

Fritz F. Holt
12737 Silver Creek Rd. 
Dripping Springs, TX 78620
fritz...@gmail.com
713-818-2496
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:30 PM, George Veni  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Logan. I’ve forwarded your message to the owners of Caverns of Sonora 
> just in case they didn’t know.
>  
> I met Jack once there during the 50th anniversary of the ledge crossing. He 
> told me that he and his team didn’t really think of the crossing as a big 
> deal and didn’t rig a safety line for there first few trips, even when they 
> crossed it with duffel bags during a cave camp trip. I crossed the ledge a 
> couple of times while sketching that part of the cave and it looks a lot more 
> treacherous from the tourist trail than from the direction of exploration. 
> There is a frequently distributed photo of someone crossing the ledge and 
> being high up on the slope next to the safety line. Jack and I agreed that 
> the best place to cross is to walk right along the edge of the ledge. The 
> floor is flat with a grippy surface there, making it very easy for much of 
> the traverse. Although I wouldn’t do it without that safety line.
>  
> Jack also told me the he was elected to cross the ledge first because he was 
> the most experienced, something I’d heard many times. I asked him how 
> experienced and he said, “I think it was my third caving trip.”
>  
> George
>  
> 
> George Veni, PhD
> Executive Director, National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI)
> and
> President, International Union of Speleology (UIS)
>  
> NCKRI address (primary)
> 400-1 Cascades Avenue
> Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220 USA
> Office: +575-887-5517
> Mobile: +210-863-5919
> Fax: +575-887-5523
> gv...@nckri.org
> www.nckri.org
>  
> UIS address
> Titov trg 2
> Postojna, 6230, Slovenia
> www.uis-speleo.org
>  
> From: Texascavers  On Behalf Of Logan
> Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2018 20:16
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [Texascavers] Jack Prince, first person to cross Devil's Delight 
> ledge in Mayfield Cave (Caverns of Sonora)
>  
> Jack Prince passed away on November 19, 2018, one month shy of his 90th 
> birthday. Most of you do not know who he was, or that he made one of the most 
> memorable discoveries in a cave in Texas. Bill Stephenson, founder of the 
> National Speleological Society, described the cave as 

[Texascavers] relating to caving and social media

[David]

>From David Locklear
( hit delete button now )

Back in 2011, there was quite a few cavers that were
hostile towards Facebook.Trying to plan any caving
event and mention Facebook, and one was met with
unpleasant feedback.

Ironically, at that same time, Google Plus was just
getting its baby teeth. So I took it upon myself to
make a fancy Google Plus Page for the NSS and I
emailed all the gurus and explained the concept.
At that time, lots of cavers had a Gmail address already,
so why not try to plan things using this new Google Plus
thing.

NSS approved my request, and within a few weeks, the
official NSS Page had 150 real NSS members on it.

The powers that be, did not like the idea of someone
controlling it without their micromanaging of it.In the spring of 2012,
the page was active, because I was enthusiastically putting
an effort into it.But they made me turn it over to them, and
I knew what would happen, but by that point I had far more important
things to be doing with my spare time.I knew the page would get watered
down,
to be so vague and generic that it
would not offer anything that any of the other on-line sources
offered. I never followed it after that point which was about
6 years ago.Although I was aware that 3 cavers liked
it and they still regularly posted stuff.

I just looked at the page for the first time in about 5 years,
and there have been 2 generic post in the past month.

  https://plus.google.com/111610247864593899054

And the Community Section has only had one recent post nearly 2 months
ago.

 https://plus.google.com/communities/100328245514364040731

Anyways, everybody knows Google Plus never took off.And
Google announced last year or the year before that it would
eventually die. In today's news, Google announced it was
dead, but they would keep it enabled for another 4 months.

Meanwhile the younger generation has fully adopted Facebook
and other forms of social media. I do not follow any of them
and for the past 2 years have tried hard to stay off of Facebook.


You often hear about the successes and achievements of cavers,
but seldom do you hear about the losers.Among my many other
failed ideas, was the East Texas Caver's Cookout, and
the Speleo-Stationwagon, the GHG Christmas Auction Fundraiser, and marrying
a girl from the Sierra Madres, thinking that I would get to go caving in
Mexico whenever
I wanted to.The list
is probably much longer.

The good news is that somehow, I managed
to have a beautiful bilingual teenage daughter, I call "Cavepearl."She
is having
a Quincenera in about 9 months, and is already planning an extravagant
event, that she claims I must attend.

And while I have your attention,

I wanted to drive to Austin Monday, to attend part of Mr. Prince's funeral,
but I just
had too much work, and stuff.   I spent about 30 minutes fretting or
pondering over
the drive, and finally decided, I just can't go to every caver's funeral or
wake.   Had
it been in Houston, I could have gone to at least part of it.


If anybody is passing thru Houston during the last week of December, I have
a guest room
in my new apartment with a clean twin-size bed.
Address:   4545 Cook Rd.  # 716, Houston, TX 77072

D.L.
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