[Texascavers] Change of Location for 2018 TSA Winter Business Meeting

[Robert B via Texascavers]

In an effort to be considerate to the TSA Officers and members driving from
Austin, the location of the 2018 TSA Winter Business Meeting has been moved
from Government Canyon SNA to the pavilion at Cave Without A Name. (325
Kreutzberg Rd, Boerne, TX 78006)

The Date and Time of the meeting = Sunday January 7th starting at 10:00AM

If you have any ideas or concerns about the TSA that you would like
addressed but can't make the meeting, please let one of the officers know.

Rob Bisset - chair...@cavetexas.org
Amy Morton - vicechair...@cavetexas.org
Rachel Reddig - treasu...@cavetexas.org
Elizabeth Herren - secret...@cavetexas.org
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[Texascavers] Hill County State Natural Area Karst Project

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Texas Cavers

I am pleased to announce that this Saturday November 18 we start (again)
the Hill Country State Natural Area Cave and Karst Project. (Saturday Only)

The objective for this weekend is to send out small teams to verify that
existing cave location data is correct, and if not, to perform a local
search pattern with hopes of acquiring cave location. Further information
will be provided at Park.

Meeting Time & Location: 9:30am at HCSNA Headquarters (Bandera Tx)

Total number of participants: 10 - 12 persons (3 - 4 teams)

Requirements for participation:
1. RSVP to Rob Bisset (chair...@cavetexas.org)
2. Participants must sign some required waivers and other TPWD documents
(provided at Park)
3. Somebody in each Team must have a GPS and know how to use it. A GPS will
not be provided. Also, each team must have the ability to photograph cave
opening. Bring a camera.
4. You must be a member of our caving community. If I don't know you, or if
somebody can't vouch for you, don't come. Basically, it's not open to
public or extreme caving beginners.

This is not a recreational caving trip. We have work to do to provide the
Park with accurate data on existing cave locations. Once this is done the
Project can move forward with surveying existing or new caves.
Let me re-state this last part. As this project begins, I must keep the
numbers of participants low and the objectives narrow. As we establish a
working relationship with the Park and it's personnel the number of
participants can grow and we should be able to accommodate those with less
experience. Please have patience.

I will be looking for co-leaders to help with this project in case I can't
make a scheduled date.

Regards
Robert Bisset - Chairman Texas Speleological Association
chair...@cavetexas.org
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Re: [Texascavers] 2018 TSA Winter Business Meeting - Saturday January 6th - Gov't Canyon SNA

[Robert B via Texascavers]

TC Status. we finally enough articles to go forward with completion and
printing.
I expect mailing sometime around first week of december
193 active members

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:32 PM, Logan McNatt via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Rob, my primary question is: what is the status of The Texas Caver?
> A secondary question: how many current paid members are there in the TSA?
> (which reminds me that since I did not attend TCR I probably owe membership
> dues).
> I don't plan to attend the Jan 6th meeting.
> Logan McNatt
>
>
> On 11/14/2017 9:54 AM, Robert B via Texascavers wrote:
>
> The 2018 TSA Winter Business Meeting is scheduled for Saturday January 6th
> and will be held at Government Canyon State Natural Area just west of San
> Antonio.
> I believe the starting time will be 10AM.
>
> TSA members are encouraged to attend.
> If you cannot attend and would like some issue discussed, let an officer
> know so that we can put it on the agenda.
>
>
> Rob Bisset
>
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[Texascavers] 2018 TSA Winter Business Meeting - Saturday January 6th - Gov't Canyon SNA

[Robert B via Texascavers]

The 2018 TSA Winter Business Meeting is scheduled for Saturday January 6th
and will be held at Government Canyon State Natural Area just west of San
Antonio.
I believe the starting time will be 10AM.

TSA members are encouraged to attend.
If you cannot attend and would like some issue discussed, let an officer
know so that we can put it on the agenda.


Rob Bisset
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[Texascavers] Ambient Temperature of Deep Cave

[Robert B via Texascavers]

What is the ambient temperature of deep cave
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[Texascavers] Info on Hosting an NSS BOG Meeting

[Robert B via Texascavers]

For those Texas Grottos considering hosting the Spring 2018 NSS BOG
Meeting, here is a link to some info

https://caves.org/info/hostbogmtg/index.shtml
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[Texascavers] TSA Members Meeting - Sunday Oct 15 - 9:00AM

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Texas Speleological Association

The TSA Members Meeting is scheduled for this coming Sunday Oct 15 at
9:00AM

Where...TCR Paradise Canyon next to main cabin
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Re: [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto is the center of the caving universe and here's proof...

[Robert B via Texascavers]

we are all underpaid

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:10 PM, George Veni via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Bexar Grotto has always been generous, which makes me proud to be a
> member. Expanding that generosity to Texas cavers in general and some
> friends close to San Antonio:
>
>
>
> John Moses in El Paso is the NSS International Secretary
>
>
>
> Patty Perlaky at Cave Without A Name is President of the National Caves
> Association (US association of show caves)
>
>
>
> Brad Wuest at Natural Bridge Caverns is President of the International
> Show Caves Association.
>
>
>
> I look forward to seeing many of you in a couple of weeks.
>
>
>
> George
>
>
>
> 
>
> George Veni, PhD
>
> President, International Union of Speleology
>
> and
>
> Executive Director
>
> National Cave and Karst Research Institute
>
> 400-1 Cascades Avenue
>
> Carlsbad, New Mexico 88220-6215 USA
>
> Office: +1-575-887-5517 <(575)%20887-5517>
>
> Mobile: +1-210-863-5919 <(210)%20863-5919>
>
> Fax: +1-575-887-5523 <(575)%20887-5523>
>
> gv...@nckri.org
>
> www.nckri.org
>
>
>
> *From:* Texascavers [mailto:texascavers-boun...@texascavers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *gschindel via Texascavers
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2017 14:52
> *To:* texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Cc:* gschindel 
> *Subject:* Re: [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto is the center of the caving
> universe and here's proof...
>
>
>
> I've always said Bexar grotto is unique. They are much more service
> oriented than most.
>
> The grotto has a lot to be proud of.
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT 4G LTE smartphone
>
>
>
>  Original message 
>
> From: Bennett Lee via Texascavers 
>
> Date: 8/29/17 4:46 PM (GMT-05:00)
>
> To: bexargro...@googlegroups.com, "'texascavers@texascavers.com'" <
> texascavers@texascavers.com>
>
> Cc: Bennett Lee 
>
> Subject: [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto is the center of the caving universe
> and here's proof...
>
>
>
> I just wanted to point out that Texas has eight separate Grottos, and that
> the leaders of all the major *Texas, national,* and *international* cave
> organizations are *all Bexar Grotto members.*
>
>
>
>-
> *International Union of Speleology (UIS) *President: George Veni, Bexar
>Grotto
>
>
>-
> *National Speleological Society (NSS) *President: Geary Schindel, Bexar
>Grotto
>
>
>-
> *National Cave and Karst Research Institute (NCKRI) *Executive Director:
>George Veni, Bexar Grotto
>
>
>-
> *Texas Speleological Association (TSA) *Chairman: Rob Bisset, Bexar Grotto
>
>
>-
> *Texas Speleological Survey (TSS) *President: Joe Mitchell, Bexar Grotto
>
>
>-
> *Texas Cave Management Association (TCMA) *President: Gregg Williams,
>Bexar Grotto
>
>
>
> I HEREBY DECLARE THE BEXAR GROTTO AS THE CENTER OF THE CAVING UNIVERSE.
> BEXAR GROTTO ROCKS.
>
>
>
> --Bennett
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Re: [Texascavers] Photo request: Blaine and Rustler Formations

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Andrea
PM via your private email

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 11:19 AM, grubbsi--- via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Ask Kevin Stafford, he has done a lot of work out there
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Andrea Croskrey via Texascavers" 
> To: "Texas Cavers" 
> Cc: "Andrea Croskrey" 
> Sent: Monday, July 3, 2017 11:05:37 AM
> Subject: [Texascavers] Photo request: Blaine and Rustler Formations
>
> Howdy Texas Cavers!
>
> I'm giving a presentation on the Rustler and Blaine aquifers and would
> like photos. Anyone have photos I could use? I would give photo credit! I
> know some people have at least been in the gypsum caves in the panhandle
> which is in the Blaine aquifer...
>
> Andrea Croskrey
> quartzit...@hotmail.com
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Re: [Texascavers] Need small group of cavers for 'emergency' trip into O9 well

[Robert B via Texascavers]

there are loads of vertically competent cavers returning from convention.
Maybe they could make a small detour and meet you there

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Ben Hutchins via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Hello cavers,
>
> I was contacted by the rancher that leases the property above O9 well. He
> needs a small group of cavers to go down the entrance drop and flush out
> the pipe at the base of the windmill. I am not exactly sure of the issue,
> but I think that one of the wooden rods within the pipe broke and the
> shattered pieces of wood need to be flushed out so that the remaining
> wooden rods can be reinserted before they dry and warp.
>
> This will only take a group of 3 cavers, but everyone needs to be
> competent on rope, and the trip must include someone that has rigged the
> entrance drop before. And it needs to be ASAP (preferably this weekend or
> early next week at the latest). If interested and able, call me at 512
> 212 0230 <(512)%20212-0230>.
>
> thanks,
> Ben Hutchins
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Re: [Texascavers] 2017 Speleo-Trivia

[Robert B via Texascavers]

jewel cave

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 12:40 AM, David via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> In what cave will you find 2 passages with pools of water
> named:
>
> "New Year’s Lake" and "Bonus Lake"  ?
>
>
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[Texascavers] All Texas Grottos to Check in with TSA

[Robert B via Texascavers]

I need all Texas Grottos (officers) to check in with the Texas
Speleological Association.

This includes any somewhat inactive Grottos. I would still like to initiate
communications with you or your group. So help me out here... send this
request to friends, colleagues, cavers.

Reasons for Check In.
1. I would like to have a small recurring section of the Texas Caver
Magazine dedicated to providing current information on all Texas Grottos.
Please provide the following:
   A. Name of Grotto,
   B. Who are the current officers (names w/ email contact)
   C. Meeting times and location
   D. Website link - include Facebook. meet-up or other links if you
want them added
   E. other information???

2. The TSA website is being updated soon and we request the most current
information regarding Texas Grottos.

As names and email addresses are going to be published in Texas caver and
posted to TSA website... I have to ask
Is it ok to publish your names and emails () if not how would you like
folks to contact.
Is there anything you would like add


Deadlines:
For submitting info: I need ASAP. (within a week or two)


Please submit to my attention (both email addresses please)
publicati...@cavetexas.org
robert.c.b1...@gmail.com


regards,

Rob Bisset - TSA Chairman
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Re: [Texascavers] TPWD video on White Nose Syndrome research

[Robert B via Texascavers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx_ViX9ye2M

On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 12:18 PM, Rick Corbell via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

>
>
> This recently released video shows Jonah Evans, Texas state mammologist,
> Bracken Bat Cave manager and Bexar Grotto member Fran Hutchins, and Katie
> Gillies bat researcher for BCI.  If you look close you may recognize other
> Texas cavers who have been involved in the project to get baseline
> populations and gather swab samples for testing for evidence of the
> Whitenose fungus.  Hopefully, this years sampling will continue to show a
> Whitenose free Texas.
>
>
>
> Rick Corbell
>
> rlcorb...@hotmail.com
>
> Bexar Grotto, NSS
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[Texascavers] Who fired the canon at TCR?

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Who fired the canon at TCR?

Could I have them contact me via email.
chair...@cavetexas.org

Thanks
Rob
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[Texascavers] Hundreds of Texas Blind Salamander Missing

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Hundreds of Texas Blind Salamanders Missing

http://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Missing-hundreds-of-endangered-Texas-blind-10654733.php

I get locked out from reading the whole story. Maybe somebody else can
access this story and repost

Rob
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[Texascavers] ASS - Aggie Grotto Contacts

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Could I get some of the current Aggie Speleological Society officers to
contact me personally.


Thanks
Rob Bisset
chair...@cavetexas.org
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[Texascavers] Texas Caver Magazine & TSA Fall Business Meeting

[Robert B via Texascavers]

TSA Members and concerned Texas Cavers

Many of you have voiced your concern regarding the absence of the Texas
Caver magazine over the past year. For the most part I have tried to listen
to your individual concerns and explain the situation on a 'one to one'
basis either through emails or phone calls. I have been personally
reluctant to utilize the 'Texascavers' listserve or Facebook as a means to
communicate to our caving community about the magazine. As current TSA
Chairman I can longer keep our members and our caving community in the
dark. Hence this note

Our current Editor has produced a number of great Texas Cavers issues over
the last few years. And I am greatful for her efforts. The content and
layout had been professionally edited. However, I (acting as TSA Chairman)
recognized too late that the editor did not have the support needed. This
job requires many people to lend a helping hand. Yes, there were a number
of very helpful proofreaders. But that's not enough to produce our
magazine. This task cannot fall to just one person. As such...

I have been actively searching for a new 'Editor in Chief' and a strong
group of Co-Editors for the Texas Caver Magazine. This team is finally
coming together and our goal is to produce quarterly issues ASAP. We have
the articles and the photos, its just a matter of completing some final
editing/layout tasks and getting it to a printer.

I ask for your patience, indulgence and yes, your help as we transition to
a new team of Editors.

Regarding the TSA Fall Business Meeting
Date & Time = Sunday October 16 - 9:00AM

I hope to see you all at TCR..

Robert Bisset
TSA Chairman
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[Texascavers] Austin -Need an Enclosed Trailer - Tuesday Aug 16

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Gill and I are going to purchase three (3) Futons for the Deep and Punkin
Cabin this evening - Tuesday Aug 16

Is there an empty Enclosed Trailer we could borrow for a day or so.
Size, prefer around 5x10 single axle
Location - near 300 Mockingbird

Its raining and Futon mattresses must stay dry

call Gill if you have one,
I'm driving up from San Antonio
Thanks,
Rob
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[Texascavers] Deep & Punkin Cabin Sofas - Futons

[Robert B via Texascavers]

For your consideration

The sectional sofas at D Cabin need to be replaced

Please see the 3 each Futons for sale up in Austin. Link below.

These would fit nicely and are at an excellent price

I would purchase myself and give them to D if they were available in San
Antonio.

https://austin.craigslist.org/fuo/573155.html

Regards, Rob
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[Texascavers] Paging - Mark Childre

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Mark Childre contact me off list
I lost your contact Cell Phone #

Rob Bisset
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[Texascavers] Honey Creek Road Project - Fundraising Complete

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Regarding the request for donations to the Honey Creek Road Repair Project.

We have exceeded the request for donations.
As such we are not taking additional donations at this time.

A big thank you to all those who committed funds to this project.
We raised $1800 in 24 hours and have another $500 is available as back-up
should costs exceed expectations.

Arron Wertheim has been informed of this and is proceeding with the project.
He believes that actual costs will come in below the $1800

Rob
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Re: [Texascavers] Honey Creek Cave Road Repair Project

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Joe & texascavers

Thank you for your donation(s). Every little bit helps.

I'll try to answer your questions as diplomatically as possible.

#1. why isn't a group like the TSA taking care of the total cost?  They
have ample funds and this type of thing seems right up their alley...
Answer...The folks heading up this project did not directly request that
the TSA take care of the "Total Cost". They did ask that the TSA make a
fair and reasonable donation. The TSA has committed $500.
Further to your question regarding ample funds... (This is where I may fail
in the diplomatic response) The TSA does have funds that it can and does
use for such efforts. However, the TSA as an organization is not in charge
of this 'road repair project' and as such the TSA should not feel obligated
to incur 100% of the costs for which we have no control.

#2. how we keep this from happening? (There is alot of history within your
question...)
Answer...The quick answer is to not drive when wet. Yes, we (the cavers of
Texas) had done much work on the road and ranch. Might we have to do repair
work sometime on the future. Possibly... Hopefully yes! I think as an
optimist. 30 years from now when this repair project is far from our
collective memories, Texas cavers are still exploring Honey Creek and still
have excellent relations with the owner but we screw up the road during
a through trip HC to CWAN & Spring Creek and it's organized by Bill
Steele's granddaughter...
Honestly...I can only hope and work towards continued good landowner
relations today

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Don Arburn via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Texas Cavers Reunion will commit a hundred. It'll cost Texas Cavers a bit
> extra at TCR, just a tad.
>
>
> --Don
>
> On Feb 24, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Robert B via Texascavers <
> texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:
>
> To Texas Cavers
>
> The following is a request for financial donations for a project to repair
> the well shaft road at Honey Creek Cave. This is not a request for
> volunteers.
>
> The road to the Honey Creek well shaft is in need of repairs after many
> years of use, neglect and damage from last years rain during a major caver
> event.
>
> As Texas Cavers directly benefit from access to the cave, and any efforts
> at maintaining good landowner relations may enhance our continued access,
> we feel repairing the road is in our best interest.
>
> As such, on the weekend of March 5&6 repairs will begin. Equipment and
> labor is being donated to this effort but there will be significant out of
> pocket expenses. Two (2) bobcat type skidsteers, a backhoe and a large
> capacity dump trailer are being donated. Equipment operators are
> volunteering their time. However, this group feels their out of pocket
> costs such as diesel and equipment hauling costs should be compensated by
> Texas Cavers. The necessary heavy duty trucks and trailers to haul the
> skidsteers and backhoe are not being donated.
> Initial estimates of out of pocket costs = $1500.
>
> Mr. Arron Wertheim has agreed to be the Project Manager. He has contacted
> the landowner to work out road repair details and permission. He has also
> agreed to incur the up front costs himself, with the understanding that
> Texas Cavers will make reasonable 'not to exceed' commitments (donations)
> from which he will be compensated.
>
> We are requesting funds from TSA, TCMA, all Texas Grottoes and individual
> Texas Cavers.
> Funding shall be made in the form of a 'not to exceed' financial
> commitment. Upon project completion those donating shall be informed of
> their exact amount to be paid based upon actual expenses. Actual funds
> will be paid directly to Arron Wertheim after project completion.
>
> Should you feel this is a worthy cause please email me directly (off
> Texascavers Listserve) with your committed donation. Robert Bisset (
> chair...@cavetexas.org).
>
> Note: The Bexar Grotto has agreed to fund $500 with another $500 should
> fundraising efforts fall short.
>
> Thanks
> Robert Bisset - TSA Chairman
> chair...@cavetexas.org
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[Texascavers] Honey Creek Cave Road Repair Project

[Robert B via Texascavers]

To Texas Cavers

The following is a request for financial donations for a project to repair
the well shaft road at Honey Creek Cave. This is not a request for
volunteers.

The road to the Honey Creek well shaft is in need of repairs after many
years of use, neglect and damage from last years rain during a major caver
event.

As Texas Cavers directly benefit from access to the cave, and any efforts
at maintaining good landowner relations may enhance our continued access,
we feel repairing the road is in our best interest.

As such, on the weekend of March 5&6 repairs will begin. Equipment and
labor is being donated to this effort but there will be significant out of
pocket expenses. Two (2) bobcat type skidsteers, a backhoe and a large
capacity dump trailer are being donated. Equipment operators are
volunteering their time. However, this group feels their out of pocket
costs such as diesel and equipment hauling costs should be compensated by
Texas Cavers. The necessary heavy duty trucks and trailers to haul the
skidsteers and backhoe are not being donated.
Initial estimates of out of pocket costs = $1500.

Mr. Arron Wertheim has agreed to be the Project Manager. He has contacted
the landowner to work out road repair details and permission. He has also
agreed to incur the up front costs himself, with the understanding that
Texas Cavers will make reasonable 'not to exceed' commitments (donations)
from which he will be compensated.

We are requesting funds from TSA, TCMA, all Texas Grottoes and individual
Texas Cavers.
Funding shall be made in the form of a 'not to exceed' financial
commitment. Upon project completion those donating shall be informed of
their exact amount to be paid based upon actual expenses. Actual funds will
be paid directly to Arron Wertheim after project completion.

Should you feel this is a worthy cause please email me directly (off
Texascavers Listserve) with your committed donation. Robert Bisset (
chair...@cavetexas.org).

Note: The Bexar Grotto has agreed to fund $500 with another $500 should
fundraising efforts fall short.

Thanks
Robert Bisset - TSA Chairman
chair...@cavetexas.org
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[Texascavers] TSA Spring Convention now on Facebook

[Robert B via Texascavers]

FYI - TSA Spring Convention now on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/events/1493950854246139/1493962604244964/
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[Texascavers] From CNN - New Jersey Boy Scout Leader attacked by Bear in Cave

[Robert B via Texascavers]

I hope it's permissible to reference a CNN news link

If this had been my scouts, I would have suspected they had poured bacon
grease on my boots.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/21/us/bear-attacks-boy-scout-leader-new-jersey/index.html
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[Texascavers] Water Filter for Toxic Metals

[Robert B via Texascavers]

I just want to do my part to ensure my caver fiends good health.

Question...
Can anybody recommend a portable - medium capacity (20 gal/day) water
filter that can remove toxic metals such as lead, arsenic mercury. Those
metals typically found in mines.

The specifications listed for typical water filters leaves a bit to be
desired when it comes to metals.

Would using two types of filtration systems work better. A typical
backpacking filter followed by a run through activated charcoal. ???

Can the water found in the mines at Minas Viejas be filtered adequately for
drinking by large group of cavers.

Other considerations? Advice?

Thanks
Rob
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[Texascavers] Tags for Rigging Anchors

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Seeking opinions...

Within the greater vertical caving community... what are peoples opinion to
adding a "Tag Plate" to rigging anchors. Especially in a cave where a route
may justify using or placing rigging at same general location.

The Tag Plate would be made from an aluminum strip (maybe another material
???) and have such information as placement date, bolt manufacturer, type,
diameter, depth. Anchor information could be put on there too, but may not
be needed as one can more easily inspect the anchor.

Maybe add a 'Tag #' that could be included in survey notes and map.

This 'Tag Plate' would attach to the anchor/bolt in some manner as to not
obstruct use. Some sort of wire maybe??? Think heavy industry. Every piece
of equipment is Tagged.

If a project agrees ahead of time to use the same type of bolts and
anchors, then Tags could be made ahead of time and installed as rigging
crew sets each point.

Consider this...
You are on the rigging team. You come to a point in a cave where you must
set some anchors.
You notice three (3) other full sets of anchors.They may be in very good
looking condition and the location is perfect... BUT???
Who set these?
When or how old are they?
What kind of bolt did they use?
Is the bolt deep enough, strong enough?
Is it stainless? Galvanized?
Is there corrosion due to dissimilar metals that I cant see?

Would a 'Tag' help you in these situations?
Other info to add to Tag?

Rob Bisset
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Re: [Texascavers] Looking for TSA Bylaws

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Thanks everyone.
I missed the link on my search of the website

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Ron Ralph via Texascavers <
texascavers@texascavers.com> wrote:

> Rob and other interested TSA folks,
>
> Attached is the 2012 version of the bylaws.  I have no idea if it has been
> revised.  Ask the Secretary.
>
> Ron
>
> From: Robert B via Texascavers
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:20 AM
> To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
> Subject: [Texascavers] Looking for TSA Bylaws
>
> I am looking for a copy of the latest TSA Bylaws and any amendments.
> I thought I might have a copy in my old files, but no luck.
>
> Rob Bisset
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[Texascavers] Looking for TSA Bylaws

[Robert B via Texascavers]

I am looking for a copy of the latest TSA Bylaws and any amendments.
I thought I might have a copy in my old files, but no luck.

Rob Bisset
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Re: [Texascavers] Pedro Elizaldi

[Robert B via Texascavers]

I too remember Mr. Elizaldi and bringing cake and other pastries to his
home in Lampazos on our way to Minas.
The caver gang would hang out in Lampazos while Joe Ivy would shoot the
bull with Don Pedro.
Even arriving very late at night, the Elizaldi's would warmly welcome
everyone.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Charles Loving via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 *I went to his place in Lampazos and to Minas with Rune and we ate and
 explored and saw the bear in the pool near his hacienda. He was a wonderful
 man and we drank a few beers together. RIP Don Pedro.*

 On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Fofo via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 That is sad news. Thank you for sharing Nico.

 Don Pedro Elizaldi was a very nice guy, always had a story to share and
 it was very pleasant to hang out with him.

 - Fofo



 On 24/04/2015, at 19:05, Nico Escamilla via Texascavers 
 texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

 For those of you who might have met him, Pedro Elizaldi owner of rancho
 Minas Viejas died today.. he was placed in a nursing home by his wife and
 children against his will after having hip surgery, once there he faded
 fast and finally died this morning.

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[Texascavers] Bexar Grotto Meeting and Presentation - Ron Ralph - Ezell's Cave

[Robert B via Texascavers]

The Bexar Grotto of the NSS will have a meeting Monday evening March 23
starting at 7PM

After the normal business discussions...
Ron Ralph will have a presentation on the history of Ezell's Cave and
possibly discuss some of the roles and responsibilities of a TCMA Cave
Preserve Manager.

Bear Grotto meets at Chester's hamburgers (16609 San Pedro Ave, San
Antonio, TX 78232)
Northwest corner of US281 and Thousand Oaks
Meeting begins at 7PM
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[Texascavers] Bexar Grotto Meeting Program

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Please accept this email as an invitation to come by the Bexar Grotto
Meeting this Monday evening Jan 26th

*The scheduled program for the evening -*
Dr. Abe Springer, Professor at the School of Earth Sciences and
Environmental Sustainability, Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff
 will provide a presentation on the Hydrogeology of the Grand Canyon.

The Bexar Grotto Meets the 2nd and 4th Mondays of every month
Location - San Antonio, Chesters Hamburgers, NW corner of US 281N and
Thousand Oaks
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Re: [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto Meeting Program

[Robert B via Texascavers]

Meeting begins at 7PM
Program usually starts by 8PM

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 8:34 PM, via Texascavers 
texascavers@texascavers.com wrote:

   What Time?

 REB

  *From:* Robert B via Texascavers texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, January 24, 2015 8:29 PM
 *To:* Texascavers@texascavers.com
 *Subject:* [Texascavers] Bexar Grotto Meeting  Program

  Please accept this email as an invitation to come by the Bexar Grotto
 Meeting this Monday evening Jan 26th

 *The scheduled program for the evening -*
 Dr. Abe Springer, Professor at the School of Earth Sciences and
 Environmental Sustainability, Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff
 will provide a presentation on the Hydrogeology of the Grand Canyon.

 The Bexar Grotto Meets the 2nd and 4th Mondays of every month
 Location - San Antonio, Chesters Hamburgers, NW corner of US 281N and
 Thousand Oaks

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