Re: [SWR] Dilation theory.
Everyone, NSS Members can also view this article directly on our website: http://www.caves.org Login into the member's area (yellow bat sticker in the center of the page). Enter your NSS number as your username, your zip code as your password. The second section down has a direct link to al back issues of the News as well as our other periodicals. The December 1983 issue contains this article. Enjoy! Wm Shrewsbury President, National Speleological Society -Original Message- From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Rich Wolfert Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 12:50 PM To: s...@caver.net Subject: Re: [SWR] Dilation theory. For those interested in reading The Dilation Theory of Cave Origin, by Donald G. Davis, the article was published in the December, 1983 issue of the NSS News on page 315. If you don't have a copy, you can find it on line at: www.karstportal.org/filestorage/nss_news/1983-v041-012.pdf Donald wrote the Dilation Theory while he and I were traveling from Carlsbad, New Mexico to Denver, Colorado. I was driving and Donald was busy writing what I thought might be a trip report. Somewhere between Roswell and Vaughn, he finished writing and proceeded to read his manuscript to me. I have fond memories of that day, hearing Donald read the first draft of The Dilation Theory of Cave Origin! If you have not yet read it, by all means do so. If you have previously read it years ago, read it again. It's a gem! Rich Wolfert ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Dilation theory.
http://www.marckbeggs.com/ALF/2000/taylor.html Reference's The Donald's theory with excerpts. Interesting reading. Woul= d love to read Mr. Davis' publication, in English or German - apparently it= was also widely translated julia germany -Original Message- From: Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net To: Carl Pagano pagan...@comcast.net Cc: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net; DONALD DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net Sent: Sat, Sep 7, 2013 4:59 pm Subject: Re: [SWR] Dilation theory. Carl, I think you're on to something here. I agree, it would be great to h= ave The Donald's theory published again. Donald???=E2=80=A6. Peter On Sep 7, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Carl Pagano wrote: , it would be worth publishing again given the increased number of sinkhole= s. The world is beginning to collapse on itself because there aren't enough= people who believe that it is hollow anymore. It used to be that people th= ought the world was hollow. Cavers promoted this theory, but with the closu= re of so many caves due to ignorance, the world doesn't know just how many = hollow places there are/were, and so they are de-dilating.=20 Carl=E2=80=A6. As the Dilation Theory author, I believe that Dr. Pagano's brilliant extrapolation is entirely consistent with the Theory. Unless the agencies open caves again, the earth is in peril, and may end up as a black hole! Here's the header of my personal file of the article (available in MS Word .DOC format on request), giving some of the publication history: [This revolutionary scientific paper originally appeared in Virgin Passage, June 1982 (Colorado Mines Grotto). It was republished in NSS News, Dec. 1983; and in Geo2 (journal of the Cave Geology Geography Section of the NSS), Winter 1995; and has been printed in translation in German, Swiss and Norwegian journals, indicating worldwide acceptance of its definitive speleogenetic paradigm.--author's note, Dec. 1999.] Rich Wolfert's account (that came in as I write this) of the genesis of the Dilation Theory is correct. I dashed it off in pencil as we were on the road to Denver, just as a whimsical joke. It is totally outside my normal style; I've never quite understood why it caught on so well as to become by far the most popular and best-known of all my writings. It does explain, in a cockeyed way, a great many things--sometimes I can't help wondering if it might actually be *true* (a terrifying thought!) The translation history in my summary above is from word of mouth (a Spanish translation is also rumored); I don't recall that I have copies of any of the non-English versions--I'd like to get hold of them, if anyone else has. It would also be amusing if a speaker of any of those languages would render a literal translation back into English. Mark Twain did that with a French translation of his Jumping Frog story; the result was funnier than the original. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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I had forgotten that Donald pointed out that having sex in a cave increased the risk of de-dilation. DirtDoc NSS Members can also view this article directly on our website: http://www.caves.org Login into the member's area (yellow bat sticker in the center of the page). Enter your NSS number as your username, your zip code as your password. The second section down has a direct link to al back issues of the News as well as our other periodicals. The December 1983 issue contains this article.
Re: [SWR] Dilation theory.
Penny Boston pbos...@nmt.edu wrote: Lee, When I read this in 1983, I don't believe this paragraph was even there. The recent sinkhole accident of which you speak occurred in Brandon, Florida on February 28 of 2013! It's as if this paragraph suddenly appeared in your article to be read in the present time during this discussion. Very strange! Maybe your theory needs some tweaking to explain this. It is apparent that Donald's theorem presciently also accounts for relativistic time dilation as well. Nice touch, DD. Penny Not only that, but since the quantum aspects of Dilation are already well-established, your insightful comments show that it can also be the basis for finally resolving the vexing contradiction between quantum physics and relativity. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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At last, the Unified Hole Theory of the universe. I see Stockholm in your future. P On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:07 PM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: Penny Boston pbos...@nmt.edu wrote: Lee, When I read this in 1983, I don't believe this paragraph was even there. The recent sinkhole accident of which you speak occurred in Brandon, Florida on February 28 of 2013! It's as if this paragraph suddenly appeared in your article to be read in the present time during this discussion. Very strange! Maybe your theory needs some tweaking to explain this. It is apparent that Donald's theorem presciently also accounts for relativistic time dilation as well. Nice touch, DD. Penny Not only that, but since the quantum aspects of Dilation are already well-established, your insightful comments show that it can also be the basis for finally resolving the vexing contradiction between quantum physics and relativity. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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Penny Boston pbos...@nmt.edu wrote: At last, the Unified Hole Theory of the universe. I see Stockholm in your future. P Well, most of the universe is just a big, dark cave, dilated starting with the inflation episode. H--I see implications for the identification of dark matter and dark energy here... --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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Wonderful pun Penny - it looks like Donald has focused many great minds on this theory... Regards, John -Original Message- From: swr-boun...@caver.net [mailto:swr-boun...@caver.net] On Behalf Of Penny Boston Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:21 PM To: DONALD G. DAVIS Cc: s...@caver.net; skin...@thuntek.net Subject: Re: [SWR] Dilation theory. At last, the Unified Hole Theory of the universe. I see Stockholm in your future. P On Sep 8, 2013, at 3:07 PM, DONALD G. DAVIS wrote: Penny Boston pbos...@nmt.edu wrote: Lee, When I read this in 1983, I don't believe this paragraph was even there. The recent sinkhole accident of which you speak occurred in Brandon, Florida on February 28 of 2013! It's as if this paragraph suddenly appeared in your article to be read in the present time during this discussion. Very strange! Maybe your theory needs some tweaking to explain this. It is apparent that Donald's theorem presciently also accounts for relativistic time dilation as well. Nice touch, DD. Penny Not only that, but since the quantum aspects of Dilation are already well-established, your insightful comments show that it can also be the basis for finally resolving the vexing contradiction between quantum physics and relativity. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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Hi Donald! MANY THANKS for providing the original document. From beginning to end, I couldn't help but wonder if Hunter S Thompson was part of the road trip during which this paper was written, or were you just channeling him at the time. And everyone knows that cave sex is the best sex, especially in virgin passages; the risks noted in paper be damned. Greatly enjoyed it. Thank you again for resurrecting this fantastically written paper. Cavingly, julia germany -Original Message- From: DONALD G. DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net To: swr s...@caver.net Sent: Sun, Sep 8, 2013 4:35 pm Subject: Re: [SWR] Dilation theory I'll attach a copy of my digital version here. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: Hi Donald! MANY THANKS for providing the original document. From beginning to end, I = couldn't help but wonder if Hunter S Thompson was part of the road trip dur= ing which this paper was written, or were you just channeling him at the ti= me. No, I haven't read any Hunter Thompson in my life. What I've read of the man's crude behavior didn't strike me as attractive. Anyway, he was still alive long after I wrote the Dilation Theory article. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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Thanks for clearing that up. He may have been crude at times, but his wit, like yours, was incomparable. -Original Message- From: DONALD G. DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net To: swr s...@caver.net Sent: Sun, Sep 8, 2013 9:38 pm Subject: Re: [SWR] Dilation theory Julia Germany germa...@aol.com wrote: Hi Donald! MANY THANKS for providing the original document. From beginning to end, I = couldn't help but wonder if Hunter S Thompson was part of the road trip dur= ing which this paper was written, or were you just channeling him at the ti= me. No, I haven't read any Hunter Thompson in my life. What I've read of the man's crude behavior didn't strike me as attractive. Anyway, he was still alive long after I wrote the Dilation Theory article. --Donald ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
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Carl, I think you're on to something here. I agree, it would be great to have The Donald's theory published again. Donald???…. Peter On Sep 7, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Carl Pagano wrote: Does anyone still have a copy of Donald Davis's cave dilation theory? If so, it would be worth publishing again given the increased number of sinkholes. The world is beginning to collapse on itself because there aren't enough people who believe that it is hollow anymore. It used to be that people thought the world was hollow. Cavers promoted this theory, but with the closure of so many caves due to ignorance, the world doesn't know just how many hollow places there are/were, and so they are de-dilating. Carl…. ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
Re: [SWR] Dilation theory.
http://www.marckbeggs.com/ALF/2000/taylor.html Reference's The Donald's theory with excerpts. Interesting reading. Would love to read Mr. Davis' publication, in English or German - apparently it was also widely translated julia germany -Original Message- From: Peter Jones pjca...@gwi.net To: Carl Pagano pagan...@comcast.net Cc: Southwestern Region s...@caver.net; DONALD DAVIS dgda...@nyx.net Sent: Sat, Sep 7, 2013 4:59 pm Subject: Re: [SWR] Dilation theory. Carl, I think you're on to something here. I agree, it would be great to have The Donald's theory published again. Donald???…. Peter On Sep 7, 2013, at 3:21 PM, Carl Pagano wrote: Does anyone still have a copy of Donald Davis's cave dilation theory? If so, it would be worth publishing again given the increased number of sinkholes. The world is beginning to collapse on itself because there aren't enough people who believe that it is hollow anymore. It used to be that people thought the world was hollow. Cavers promoted this theory, but with the closure of so many caves due to ignorance, the world doesn't know just how many hollow places there are/were, and so they are de-dilating. Carl…. ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET ___ SWR mailing list s...@caver.net http://lists.caver.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swr ___ This list is provided free as a courtesy of CAVERNET
