Re: Munshijis poem

['Jayashree Venkataraman' via Thatha_Patty]

Superb so soul stirring thnku sir for the meaningful poem .my childhood was in 
jabalpur and iam.very familiar with hindi .Namaskarams jayshree venkat raman 

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  *मुन्सी प्रेमचंद जी की एक सुंदर कविता*

_ख्वाहिश नहीं मुझे_
_मशहूर होने की,

      _आप मुझे पहचानते हो_
      _बस इतना ही काफी है._


_अच्छे ने अच्छा और_
_बुरे ने बुरा जाना मुझे,_

      _क्यों की जिसकी जितनी जरूरत थी_
      _उसने उतना ही पहचाना मुझे._


_जिन्दगी का फलसफा भी_
_कितना अजीब है,_

      _शामें कटती नहीं और_
      _साल गुजरते चले जा रहें है._


_एक अजीब सी_
_दौड है ये जिन्दगी,_

      _जीत जाओ तो कई_
      _अपने पीछे छूट जाते हैं और_

_हार जाओ तो_
_अपने ही पीछे छोड़ जाते हैं._


_बैठ जाता हूँ_
_मिट्टी पे अकसर,_

      _क्योंकि मुझे अपनी_
      _औकात अच्छी लगती है._

_मैंने समंदर से_
_सीखा है जीने का सलीका,_

      _चुपचाप से बहना और_
      _अपनी मौज मे रेहना._


_ऐसा नहीं की मुझमें_
_कोई ऐब नहीं है,_

      _पर सच कहता हूँ_
      _मुझमें कोई फरेब नहीं है._


_जल जाते है मेरे अंदाज से_
_मेरे दुश्मन,_

            _क्यों की एक मुद्दत से मैंने,
 न मोहब्बत बदली 
    और न दोस्त बदले हैं._


_एक घडी खरीदकर_
_हाथ मे क्या बांध ली_

      _वक्त पीछे ही_
      _पड गया मेरे._

_सोचा था घर बना कर_
_बैठुंगा सुकून से,_

      _पर घर की जरूरतों ने_
      _मुसाफिर बना डाला मुझे._


_सुकून की बात मत कर_
_ऐ गालिब,_

      _बचपन वाला इतवार_
      _अब नहीं आता._


_जीवन की भाग दौड मे_
_क्यूँ वक्त के साथ रंगत खो जाती है ?_

      _हँसती-खेलती जिन्दगी भी_
      _आम हो जाती है._


_एक सवेरा था_
_जब हँसकर उठते थे हम,_

      _और आज कई बार बिना मुस्कुराये_
      _ही शाम हो जाती है._


_कितने दूर निकल गए_
_रिश्तों को निभाते निभाते,_

      _खुद को खो दिया हम ने_
      _अपनों को पाते पाते._


_लोग केहते है_
_हम मुस्कुराते बहुत है,_

      _और हम थक गए_
      _दर्द छुपाते छुपाते._


_खुश हूँ और सबको_
_खुश रखता हूँ,_

      _लापरवाह हूँ फिर भी_
      _सब की परवाह करता हूँ._



_मालूम है_
_कोई मोल नहीं है मेरा फिर भी_

      _कुछ अनमोल लोगों से_
      _रिश्ता रखता हूँ._


        
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Fw: Fwd: Religion and circus

['Jayashree Venkataraman' via Thatha_Patty]

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Dear all  The world is going at a fast pace .we declare we r modern but as an 
elderly person what alarms me most is levels of stress and insecurity which has 
risen among the people .          I feel very sad and dismayed to follow kamal 
hasans career graph .
Long ago we visited his family at their eldams road residence .his mama shri 
jaganathan and my fatherinlaw were colleagues in the IB .  His mother a very 
beautiful saintly iyengar lady who was quite ill replied to my fatherinlaw s 
query in a shocking way     He told her to get him.married and her reply  I 
don't want to spoil a girls life .he has very different views . This callous 
statement about ur own son set me thinking of  parenting  .    Religion teaches 
us how to live  and teaches us to  endure rejection sufferings and gives us 
strength to deal with life   Our Hindu religion is not a religion it is a way 
of life .The Muslim religious teachings are praiseworthy as they stress on 
protecting the women .the meher system and the widow remarriage and the dowry 
system is very well organised.
Christianity we know teaches us about  peace love and and endurance .  It is 
terrible to note how all these teachings who give us the ability to commune 
with our inner strength has been reduced to rituals and blind fundamentalism .
The Sikhs r the ideal bridge of spiritualty which has combined all faiths in 
their guru Grantha saab.    We have the so called gutless  broadminded Hindus 
condemning their religion. I feel very sorry for them .            They have 
not understood the ancient texts and fail to  understand the strength it gives 
us .it is a pathetic bid to gain popularity with the other faiths ,believe me 
no one is going to respect u .
Family and parents have a vital role to play moulding a child's life  during 
the formative years . Let us not confuse rituals and caste based blind 
orthodoxy with religion .Rituals r personal belief systems .
We have raja ram.mohan Roy and rabindranath  tagore  who started the brahma 
samaj . We have dayananda  saraswathi who started the arya  samaj .life should 
be based on efforts regularity and discipline.    Secularism is a misunderstood 
term only applies to Hindus. The other faiths merrily continue their lives .   
Kamal hasan is  a brilliant actor has reduced himself to a puppet and feel very 
sad for himI guess the orthodoxy put him of . Hatred and condemning and using 
prejudiced statements never give us a status .             The Hindus have 
their sanathana dharma which tells us about our different duties stresses on 
the fact life is temporary .It is not the fault of the religion we have become 
buffoons and object of derision .    It is the duty of every parent to instill 
religious spiritual values and encourage their children to pray be friendly be 
equal and relaxed that is all.Do ur best and leave it to the God to do the rest 
.The Hindus revere all the natural elements and express thanks giving .the fact 
it is been reduced to a money making pathetic circus .is not the fault of the 
religion.   my humble appeal don't expose ur children to blind superstition 
rituals and black magic and stupid orthodoxy and term it religion . Don't 
overprotect them .teach them to be good strong human beings .learn to be  a 
good human being and the kids will follow      Regards jayshree venkatraman     
        
   


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Fw: Vedic Verses for 3/30/18

['Jayashree Venkataraman' via Thatha_Patty]

Dear allOur scriptures give us an awareness that our hindu religion is a way of 
life. Somewhere down the lane it has been misunderstood.the explanation of TIME 
might interest u all .regards jayshree venkatraman

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Sharing no whining

['Jayashree Venkataraman' via Thatha_Patty]

               Dear all Sharing as usual my fears and apprehensions.  Iam 
increasingly alarmed at the growing frustration and the negative vibes which is 
spewed out during functions and family gatherings   regarding the super 
geriatric  care, makes one shudder because of the terrible  after effects it 
has on the young er generation . 
                          The responsibilities which now people in their 70s 
are facing are caretaking of their elders in their 90s. I admit it is tough but 
pls refrain from whining and grumbling so openly .the sickening part is either 
complaining or boasting .most of them want padma shri  ha ha  It  is after all 
our parents .               I don't want to moralise but the solution is 
sharing and  caring and accepting part time help .pls don't drive ur self too 
hard .Take a break and if necessary find an adult creche . I would like to 
suggest instead of complaining about adult kids  during ur idle times and 
indulging in self pity pls offer part time help to the concerned family .     
Let me tell u about shri Sampath and Mrs Malini both r senior bank officials . 
They r offering help and moral support to the super geriatric group giving the 
family members a breather. They told us we were wondering what to do with 
ourselves and we decided to spend time this way gives u a feeling of tripti. No 
big  lect ures they just mention it casually that is all.      Quite a few of 
us who have free time can think about it  within the family or extended 
relations.an afternoon or a day should ocasionally make a world of difference. 
I honestly feel the grumbling and rage  makes u a sick person not the caring .  
                I remember I used to enjoy old movies with my elders and they 
used to tell me very rare stories .                       I remember my dad 
suddenly asked me u never sing ur old rabindra Sangeet I almost told him that 
day I would do it later but some divine strength urged me on .I brought out my 
harmonioum and we had a wonderful session of singing and reliving our days in 
calcutta .a few days later dad went into  a semi coma and never returned. What 
iam trying to emphasize is spend time with family ..even now I feel so warm and 
thankful  when I think of that day   I was amused at my relative who has 
proudly presented some ancient family tree from some archives and is busy 
publicizing it .this person had not cared to give a second look when the elders 
were alive .             Ask ur self an honest question what r u trying to 
achieve.                           We need to understand one thing  if we r 
able to be with our elders and family when they r all alive and  be of some use 
to the mortal body it is an achievement .Let us not try to do things remote 
control .                   it is futile.don't over do the respect and 
adoration pls give some attention to ur wife and husband .                      
     we have no idea of balance .either we behave li k e Shravan baalak who 
carried his parents around in a basket,                     personally I feel 
it is very unrealistic and juvenile or we dump them during emergencies.         
                                       pls remember don't behave like gautam 
Buddha  dumping that poor yashodara .do u remember who she is  or lakshmana 
dumping that poor urmila.                the mantra of existence is sharing and 
caring and enjoying and depart .regards jayshree venkatraman                    
                             Ps   philosophy comes later learn to feed the 
hungry and realise the pain of existence. It is a tragedy when we r not welcome 
any where and very sad to see people faces screw up in distaste when we timidly 
smile expecting  a smile in return .whatever age we r .                         
 Pls refrain from shunning people .it might be u at their door one day .    U 
might be the next time keeps ticking my friend .  

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Fw: Vedic Verses for 7/30/17

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Fw: Vedic Verses for 8/6/17

['Jayashree Venkataraman' via Thatha_Patty]

Dear allI am really dismayed at the growing dependence of the corporate and 
political  world resorting to tantric powers for succes and mental peace . 
There has been a mention about this obsession in india today a few years back 
.hinduism is not at all understood by us .it is a wonderful balance of duties 
rights and way of living .why r we getting stuck at the ritualistic level. Why 
don't we realise we have no power to change our destiny.of course we have the 
power of prayer ,positive vibrations which do help  and modify.                 
 Let us read out vedas and upanishads and realise there is a time when we need 
to know when tobe  detached .it is comical when peopl get terrified of evil 
forces.please realise we r all mortal and distri buting and sharing are the 
real forces which help. No one is responsible for our life's activities ups and 
down .we all know it is a kaala chakram.        There r 4 stages for all .when 
we reach vaanprastham we should have the brains to realise and move away .fear 
is the biggest disease.pls don't blame any one accept everyone's behaviour.u 
might like the excerpts from the upanishad.all of us must during our early 
seventies must  follow vedanta way only to prevent from cribbing and the 
emotion of fear rage and jealousy . We r so petrified why.  life is very 
painful I know but no point in finding loopholes .accept and move on believe me 
it helps pls don't encourage half baked ritualistic methods and demean our 
divine religion. Naam sankeertanam  and discipline is the best solution to 
alleviate mental and physical pain .Regards jayshree venkatraman

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babies are the best

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

 the hugs message was so great and am forwarding this msg as children are 
always a source of joy





  YOU  WILL LOVE 
ENJOY THIS ONE. !


Subject: Evian commercial
 

This is abs awesome... 

  
Good Evian Commercial. Enjoy! 
  
  
http://www.youtube.com/embed/pfxB5ut-KTs?rel=0; 

  


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what is secularism teaching us

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

listening to the old hauntingly melodious song from chitralekha 'mann re tu 
kaahe na dheer dhare' i was amazed at the beautiful philosophy underlying the 
words and then it struck me what is our pathetic nation been led to believe 
about been secular from our bandit group of politicians . 

 This song is written for a history based movie chitralekha, the singer 
is a punjabi muslim and i have yet to see a person singing with such devotion 
the famed rafi sahb , the lyrics are pure sanskrit based verses and written by 
sahir  

ludhianvi a punjabi muslim and the music composed by a  punjabi hindu Roshan 
Nagrath

 do we need any more lessons in secularism , well i think the hindus are the 
only ones who are given all the pathetic instructions. let us wake up and put 
our sick nation on our feet and that is the least we oldies can do for the 
children of the Nation   

  jayshree  venkatraman

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Re: ENJOY,NO OFFENCE

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

fantastic mail thnkyou so much lalithaji
    regards jayshree venkatraman

Jayashree Venkataraman

Re: Emails

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

my dear lalithaji
 what a superb mail. it echoes the present tense situation . what is the use of 
earning when people are forever stressed
  regards jayshree venkat

Jayashree Venkataraman

--- On Sat, 10/6/12, Lalitha Subramaniam lalitha26...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Lalitha Subramaniam lalitha26...@gmail.com
Subject: Emails
To: thatha_patty@googlegroups.com, thatha_pa...@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 6, 2012, 8:12 AM


 


I want to thank you all for your educational e-mails over
the past year. I am totally screwed up now and have little
chance of recovery.



I can no longer open a bathroom door without using a paper
towel, nor let the waitress put lemon slices in my ice water
without worrying about the bacteria on the lemon peel.



I can't sit down on a hotel bedspread because I can only
imagine what has happened on it since it was last washed.



I have trouble shaking hands with someone who has been
driving because the number one pastime while driving alone
is picking one's nose.



Eating a little snack sends me on a guilt trip because I can
only imagine how many gallons of trans fats I have consumed
over the years.



I can't touch any woman's handbag for fear she has placed it
on the floor of a public toilet.



I must send my special thanks for the email about rat poo in
the glue on envelopes because I now have to use a wet sponge
with every envelope that needs sealing.



ALSO, now I have to scrub the top of every can I open for
the same reason.



I can't have a drink in a bar because I fear I'll wake up in
a bathtub full of ice with my kidneys gone.



I can't eat at KFC because their chickens are actually
horrible mutant freaks with no eyes, feet or feathers.



I can't use cancer-causing deodorants even though I smell
like a water buffalo on a hot day.



Thanks to you I have learned that my prayers only get
answered if I forward an e-mail to seven of my friends and
make a wish within five minutes.



Because of your concern , I no longer drink Coca Cola
because it can remove toilet stains.



I no longer buy fuel without taking someone along to watch
the car, so a serial killer doesn't crawl in my back seat
when I'm filling up.



I no longer use Cling Wrap in the microwave because it
causes seven different types of cancer.



And thanks for letting me know I can't boil a cup of water
in the microwave anymore because it will blow up in my face,
disfiguring me for life.



I no longer go to the cinema because I could be pricked with
a needle infected with AIDS when I sit down.



I no longer go to shopping centers because someone will drug
me with a perfume sample and rob me..



And I no longer answer the phone because someone will ask me
to dial a number for which I will get a huge phone bill with
calls to Jamaica , Uganda , Singapore and Uzbekistan ..



Thanks to you I can't use anyone's toilet but mine because a
big black snake could be lurking under the seat and cause me
instant death when it bites my butt.



And thanks to your great advice I can't ever pick up a dime
coin dropped in the car park because it was probably placed
there by a sex molester waiting to grab me as I bend over.



I can't do any gardening because I'm afraid I'll get bitten
by the Violin Spider and my hand will fall off.



If you don't send this e-mail to at least 144,000 people in
the next 70 minutes, a large dove with diarrhea will land on
your head at 5:00 p.m. tomorrow afternoon, and the

fleas from 120 camels will infest your back, causing you to
grow a hairy hump. I know this will occur because it
actually happened to a friend of my next door neighbors ex
mother-in-law's second husband's cousin's best friend's
beautician!



Oh, and by the way...



A German scientist from Argentina , after a lengthy study,
has discovered that people with insufficient brain
activity read their e-mails with their hand

Re: A LESSON FROM BIRDS.....

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

dear lalithaji
 that was a  very inspiring mail thankyou and the group for such good mails
   regards
   jayshree venkatraman

 
Jayashree Venkataraman



 From: Lalitha Subramaniam lalitha26...@gmail.com
To: thatha_patty@googlegroups.com; thatha_pa...@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 9:09 AM
Subject: A LESSON FROM BIRDS.
 





Subject: A LESSON FROM BIRDS.

Re: Complain of discomforts.....

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

superb message Lalitha maam. i have kept it to show the class which i have for 
kids

 
Jayashree Venkataraman



 From: Lalitha Subramaniam lalitha26...@gmail.com
To: thatha_patty@googlegroups.com; thatha_pa...@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 10:04 AM
Subject: Complain of discomforts.

Re: Fwd: t's time to get angry !!

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

excellent mail and so thoughtprovoking lalithaji
 namaskarams  jayshree

 
Jayashree Venkataraman
1-B, Srinivasa Terrace,
52, 2nd Main road,
Gandhi nagar, Adayar,
Chennai 600 020
Tel 044-24913104
Mob 09445489204



From: Lalitha Subramaniam lalitha26...@gmail.com
To: 
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 2:55 PM
Subject: Fwd: t's time to get angry !!


Mail from a good friend of mine , it really means a lot.


-- Forwarded message --

Subject: Fw: t's time to get angry !!




 
Dear friends,
Many of you don’t know me, many will say ‘unsubscribe’, many would not like 
to read it at all but I need to write..
It’s not about me, it’s not about you. It’s about the place we stay in, the 
society we live in, the systems we have!!
I often wonder when a mosquito bites me why do I think of a 
repellant, why a coil or hit, why don’t I have the courage to question my 
municipality?
Why do I buy water in a bottle? Why do I purify water at my home? 
Does the water bill say that the tap water is only for washing clothes or 
having 
a bath? Why don’t I get drinking water in my tap?
Why should I pay a toll tax on every single black, nice looking 
road? Why a basic road is not my right?
Why do I buy an inverter or dream of a generator? Why don’t I get 
current in my wires?
Why do we call the private schools as public schools.. I always 
thought schools run by the government should be called public schools!!
Why- the cricketer who sold the ethics of game sits in parliament or 
come as experts on channels?
Why someone known for beating his wife and had charges of holding 
drugs is a celebrity to judge dance shows and all of us watch and clap 
too.
Why is it that the so called high profile tainted journalists still 
run public shows and we all watch it..
Why don’t I know the fine on jumping red light or for not wearing a 
helmet but am very well aware of power of 100 rupees: the cost of duty of most 
of the traffic guys across the country!!
Why is a girl raped in a roaming car in the capital of the country 
almost every month and all that the government says is that “girls should be 
careful..”
Why does the trial and judgment of social activists just takes a few 
weeks but Raja, Raju, Reddy roam around!!
Why even after killing hundreds of people on road the blue line 
buses remained on roads? Do you know any city apart from the capital of your 
country where the city buses crushed people on a daily basis?
Why didn’t we come on the roads when someone made elephants of 
stones for thousands of crores rupees in U.P. where people still dig pits to 
sleep or die of hunger?
Why a tainted, corrupt minister is called to IIM and Academy for IAS 
and applauded – unstopped on his desi style?
It’s so easy to call someone corrupt but have you ever thought; The act 
of bribe starts by giving not by taking.. it starts from me not from him or 
her.. so why don’t I look at myself first ?
I strongly believe that the Logic is always for NOT doing something.. 
Doing does not need logic, doers don’t believe in logics!!
Just a couple of years back some people came and played with us, killed our 
pride and people. We were angry.. some people thought  that the attack in 
Mumbai was on rich people and therefore something would change..
Nothing happened.. we all go to gateway of Indian on every anniversary in 
November, burn some wax, sing some songs and come back. Nothing changes- the 
government is back, Z security is back and people are back at the Gateway of 
India…
It’s time to come out, stand up...move.. do something.. Sitting in 
drawing rooms or discussing over a mug of beer will not solve anything..
Please remember this country does not need thinkers any more, enough of 
them.. what you need is an action .. an initiative !!
Even when the government listens to Anna, the voice has to go on… 
corruption is not limited to the government only !!  we all need to start 
with ourselves and march..
Anna Hazare is there.. and there are thousands of people across.. its time 
for you to join.. Time to create lots of Jantar Mantars- across the 
country..
Lage raho !!

Re: FW: A BREATHTAKING TESTIMONY OF DR. SRINIVASA BHATTACHARY

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

i fully agree with u SIR. it is trash
  regards mrs venkatraman
Jayashree Venkataraman

1-B, Srinivasa Terrace,

52, 2nd Main road,

Gandhi nagar, Adayar,

Chennai 600 020

Tel 044-24913104

Mob 09445489204

--- On Tue, 6/15/10, vaidya lingam vaid...@gmail.com wrote:

From: vaidya lingam vaid...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: FW: A BREATHTAKING TESTIMONY OF DR. SRINIVASA BHATTACHARY
To: Jayashree Venkataraman srika4...@yahoo.com
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 12:29 AM

The story is man made, no truth, all false statements, please do not circulate. 
 
I know a story, In nagaland some christian propagandist who wants to spread 
christianity decided to convert the whole town,  they kept a Two in one stereo 
player on a tree top hidden and they can operate through remote control. They 
said to the people we will call krishna, siva, ganapathy etc.. and jesus, see 
who answers our call, they read Bhagavath geetha, bible then they started 
calling each god, but when they called jesus, somebody operated the stereo set 
by remote control and a loud voice answered and it started a verse from bible 
also, and the christian fathers who added more spirit by going unconscious, 
crying etc... converted the whole uneducated gramavasis

 
Regards
 
Vaidyalingam


On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Jayashree Venkataraman srika4...@yahoo.com 
wrote:









--- On Thu, 6/10/10, Krishnan Venkataraman srika5...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Krishnan Venkataraman srika5...@yahoo.com
Subject: FW: A BREATHTAKING TESTIMONY OF DR. SRINIVASA 







Your comments !!




INDIA
Tel: 91-44-24913104 
Mob: 9841360072


--- On Wed, 6/9/10, shivagiri srinivasan shivagirisriniva...@yahoo.co.in 
wrote:


From: shivagiri srinivasan shivagirisriniva...@yahoo.co.in

Subject: FW: A BREATHTAKING TESTIMONY OF DR. SRINIVASA BHATTACHARY
To: 
Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 10:48 PM







 
 The trailing msg, which is full of trash,  was received from somebody. You can 
see the kind of propaganda being done against Hinduism. Absolue nonsense.
 
 

 




Subject: A BREATHTAKING TESTIMONY OF DR. SRINIVASA BHATTACHARY

 







A BREATHTAKING TESTIMONY OF DR. SRINIVASA BHATTACHARY 


(This testimony was given in a public meeting in Tamilnadu) 

  

Good morning, How many of you are really happy this morning? I am Dr. Srinivasa 
Bhattachary. If I appropriately introduce myself stating my full name it is too 
long. I come from the 145th direct generation of Sri Vaishnav Bhattachary 
priesthood community. Even today my grandfather, Raghu Bhattachary is the chief 
priest in Sri Ranganathaswamy Devasthanam at Sirangam. My father Govindaraja 
Bhattahay is chief priest in Srilakshmaneshaswamy Devasthanam at 
Ponvanugalathoor. I come from a family background of priests and today my whole 
family are Bhattacharyas for the gods who have eyes but cannot see, who have 
ears but cannot hear, who have noses but cannot smell, who have hands but 
cannot touch, who have legs but cannot walk, but I by the grace of Jesus 
Christ, have come among you as a Bhattachary for Lord Jesus Christ.  

  

At the age of six I wore the sacred thread (poonool) according to the Hindu 
tradition. I was given to the Gayathri Diksha, ombhoohu, Om bhuwaha, Om 
subhaga, ommaha, Omjanaka, Om thapaka, Om sathyam, Om thathuservdarinam, Om 
barbudevastimagam, Om diviyayonagam, Om prajothaya, Om jothirasakam, Om 
amarthavarm, Om burbosaram. I was sent to an ashramam for my studies. Right 
from my childhood I studied the Rigveda, Yegurveda, Samarveda, Adarvarnaveda, 
Nalayiram Lijya Prabhandtha, Ethihasa, Purana Ramayana, Mahabharatha, 
Ehagvateeetha etc etc in the Hindu mythological subjects in Sanskrit as well as 
in the Grandha language. Once my early education was over in Hindu philosophy 
in south India , I was sent to north India , Uttar Pradesh to do my doctorate 
in the Banaras University . I went there and did my siromony in Sanskrit and 
Ph.D. in Grandha. While I was studying in the Banaras University the 
destruction of the Babri Masjid took place at Ayodhya. Since I was
 a Bhattachary and since I was doing my double Ph.D. in a famous Hindu 
university, I was chosen by the RSS as their national youth leader. The 
objective of the RSS, as you all know, is to stop foreign religions coming to 
India . They are especially dead against to Christ and Christianity being 
proclaimed in the land of India . When I was in this organisation as their 
national Youth leader, my personal commitment was to destroy the mosque then 
and there. In those days my faith in the Hindu religion and their gods was very 
strong and so I went all the way to France and I peddled a dynamite bomb and I 
brought it to India and set it off at the tomb of the mosque, using my personal 
computer from my cabin. At that time many Islamic fundamentalists came forward 
to stop us in our activities. In retaliation our Hindu parishad people chopped 
up their hands and legs and chopped off their heads and killed not less than

reference

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

my mail on positive thinking had its material from the books of Richard Carlson 
P.H.D for all those interested. He is also the coauthor of Hand Book for the 
Soul.
   jayshree venkatraman
Jayashree Venkataraman

1-B, Srinivasa Terrace,

52, 2nd Main road,

Gandhi nagar, Adayar,

Chennai 600 020

Tel 044-24913104

Mob 09445489204


  

thanksgiving and memorial day

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

i just got this mail from a senior citizen group and i was asked for my 
comments . Ihave only one thing to say if we lead our life with ethical 
principles and remember to see things from others point of view, and steer 
clear from been judgmental the world would be a better place. thought i would 
send it to the group. why is it that we always think a little too late, it 
sounds a little to mushy about the laddos and we have to realise that is not 
the point start setting an example when we are young would be a better solution 
.Shivakumar said in his speech, you dont have to advise your children how to 
lead their lives, you lead your life and they will pick up everyday lessons.
    namaskarams jayshree venkatraman



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It is Worth Reading
 
The son who performs the ritual of shraddha even though his mother is alive


[Note: Shraddha is a Hindu ritual performed for the benefit of the departed 
ancestors.]




I met a friend at the Indian sweet shop and he said: ‘Today is my mother’s 
Shraddha and she likes ladoo very much, so I have come to buy some.

I was very surprised. Just five minutes ago I had met his mother in the 
vegetable market. And before I could say something, his mother arrived there 
with her bag . I slapped my friend and said: ‘Dear friend, what type of joke is 
this? Mother is here, right next to you!’ 

My friend put both his hands on his mother's shoulders and with a smile said: 
‘Gopal bhai, rather than perform the Shraddha after her death and give the 
ladoos to crows, I prefer satisfying her whilst she is alive by putting the 
ladoo in her meal. I believe that to make our parents happy whilst they are 
alive is the true shraddha.’

He further said that Mother had diabetes, but she likes MAAZA [soft drink] very 
much, so I always keep MAAZA in the fridge.

Orange, Apple, mangoes, etc. are her favourite items and I feed her with all 
these. 

Devotees go and light incense sticks in the temple. I do not visit the temple, 
but I do light the mosquito repelling incense stick in mother’s bedroom. 

In the morning before she starts reading the Bhagvad Gita, I polish her reading 
glasses. I think rather than dusting the photograph or idol of God, cleaning 
the old mother’s reading glasses has more merit. 

My friend's opinion will hurt the devotees, but there is some virtue in his 
belief. We tend to perform shradha after the death of our ancestors. We feed a 
luxury meal to the community. Remember that this may be all right as a 
tradition, but to feed cows and crows never benefits the departed souls. 

Even in America and Japan there is no service which will carry tiffin [lunch 
box] to the heavens above. Giving all the comforts to parents whilst they are 
alive is the most virtuous shraddha.

One truth must be realised right now. Sons may be very wise, understanding and 
loving but they cannot know the true pains, dependence, and vulnerability felt 
in old age. 

The helplessness experienced by the blind can only be understood by becoming 
blind. Under the circumstance, the old need love more than money and support, 
rather than criticism. 

In today’s life of stress, we can forgive those sons who themselves are 
suffering from tensions and responsibilities of their own. Even though they 
desire, they are unable to look after their parents. A large proportion of 
elders in the society are suffering disrespect and suffering in silence.

Such sons do not spend a little to please their parents and spend thousands of 
rupees after their death in appeasing the community. 

When the parents are eating their meals, the daughter-in-law does not want to 
add a spoonful of ghee in their rice, yet in their funeral, they w,aste a kilo 
of ghee on their dead body; they give donations to Brahmins, they visit places 
of worship to perform shraddha. All these are unproductive activities. 

Although the old and orthodox are unlikely to change their worn out mindset, it 
is necessary of the youth of today to dispense with these old meaningless 
traditions.

There is a small booklet containing the poetry of Shayar Devdas ‘Ameer’. A 
sentence in it by Ramesh Joshi: ‘When I was a child, I remembered my mother 
whenever there were tears in my eyes; today, whenever I remember my mother, 
tears come to my eyes!.

When we were young and could not walk, they held our hands and made us walk. 
Now, they are unable to walk, so we should hold their hands!

I understand one thing very well. You may not be able to take your elderly 
parents to visit places of worship, but if you take them with respect and 
support to the toilet, it will be as good as visiting 68 places of worship. It 
is said that parents cry on two occasions: one when their daughter gets married 
and leaves home; other when their sons disregard them. But mothers! They have 
to cry throughout their 

tiruvaadirai

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

dear sir/madam
    i would be grateful if you tell us about the significance of young girls 
been venerated during  the truvaadirai festival .
   regards jayshree venkatraman

Jayashree Venkataraman

1-B, Srinivasa Terrace,

52, 2nd Main road,

Gandhi nagar, Adayar,

Chennai 600 020

Tel 044-24913104

Mob 09445489204


  

Re: topics

[Jayashree Venkataraman]

i have been reading and been a part of this august and intellectual group  for 
quite a few years  and i completely agree with Madam that we are having a 
surfeit of religious articles and bordering on the ritualistic pattern . Small 
incidents and pep tabs can be included and suggestions to get on with life at 
all age groups .
    regards jayshree venkatraman 

Jayashree Venkataraman

1-B, Srinivasa Terrace,

52, 2nd Main road,

Gandhi nagar, Adayar,

Chennai 600 020

Tel 044-24913104

Mob 09445489204

--- On Mon, 9/14/09, Lalitha Subramaniam lalitha26...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Lalitha Subramaniam lalitha26...@gmail.com
Subject: topics
To: thatha_patty@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, September 14, 2009, 3:14 AM

Dear Friends,
  As you all know i am a member here since the first day itself 
and we have a  beautiful group now with  lot of members here. We are receiving 
a lot of emails daily and most of them are simply good to read. Off late i feel 
that we are heading very  much towards religious and Brahminism which is not a 
healthy one. Sincerely i must say that we should start writing on a broader 
subject on various topics instead of caste and religion, which others may feel 
a bad taste. There are enormous topics on health, medicines, travelling, 
cooking, art, jokes, etc etc. Lets please focus our attention to these topics 
hereafter and it would be very healthy and nice too.

 Sorry i dont mean to hurt anyone, its only a small request 
which i felt like expressing , and not for anyone to take it to heart. 
Sometimes religion and repeatitive emails are  becoming a bore.As the group is 
growing bigger we have people from various walks of life and so better we start 
thinking on these lines.

    God bless,
LalithaSubramaniam