Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-09 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
I never raise anything; But I would never be a passerby when you insult and
abuse me; I told you already ; all of you stop ; the front will become
quiet; instead you cleverly turn the table, all of you must face the
consequences; what you sow so you reap. The mischief maker itself is you;
or else only Iyer member cannot get the data unless by your one to one
habit forward to save you from So stop Then see. Content writing will
continue but not otherwise arising out of you  Do not try act smart Thank u
KR IRS 10524

On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 18:06, gopala krishnan  wrote:

> Mr Rajaram,
>
> I am least bothered whatever you call me, because I was  what I was in
> official position before retirement. I am not uncultured and uncivilized
> like you.
>
> All the members in the groups know what position I held before retirement,
> which is immaterial to be a member in any group. Only thing required to be
> a member is educated  and be obedient with the rules of the group.
>
> Mr Rajaram, be honest, be cultured, be civilized, be humble and be modest.
> Don't abuse others and let down others.
>
> Understand all members are  well educated and having good caliber. B*e
> other members proud of  having a class 1 officer from IRS is in our group. *
>
> Stop all abuses and indecent behavior at least from now on wards. If you
> believe in Hinduism, the burden of  the sins you commit  will have to be
> met by your wards. It is called Munjanma *papam*. Be a good Hindu.
>
> I am sending copies of this mail to groups and to a few members also.
>
> Gopalakrishnan
>
>
> On Friday, 10 May, 2024 at 12:26:48 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thank you supervisor KR IRS
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 12:12, gopala krishnan  wrote:
>
> In that case your IRS is bogus.Shame with you, the lier,uncultured
> idiot,Rajaram
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer
> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=NativePlacement=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_EmailSignatureGrowth_YahooMail:Search,Organize,Conquer_sub1=Acquisition_sub2=Global_YMktg_sub3=_sub4=10945_sub5=OrganizeConquer__Static_>
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 21:47, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
>  wrote:
> yes supervisor KR
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 10:17, gopala krishnan  wrote:
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Are you not having manners? When the entire group know I am ITS class 1,
> how dare you are to write  about me as a* supervisor?*
>
> Are you really an IRS? No IRS will write like this. I have to call you in
> that case Bogus IRS.
>
> You are totally upset. Meet a good doctor in USA.
>
> R Gopalakrishnan former ITS 7024
>
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 07:21:28 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> True how pretenders will accept they understand; Goebbels do not; as
> evident from 1000nds of Q and A and other emails apart from hidden office
> blows and Vaishnava forum blows etc. Mug cannot and that also shows your
> English knowledge is so poor. Thank u da  KR  Have you understood monkey
> back as red etc? Pl read . Decent language of the canteen muttal; one is a
> liar; another canteenwalla calling himself as coconut kernel; and the third
> as ITS but a supervisor retd. All bahu decent people KR
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 08:40, gopala krishnan  wrote:
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Please write your response in clear English. I am not able to make out
> what you mean from your mail
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 06:35:12 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> There are 3 idiots in the forum scratching each other's backs; one above
> is asking why you are calling so and so as such and such when he had
> written a decent email? only because he wrote a decent email, I also
> addressed him with respect decently; if you feel that it shall come to you
> pl have that decency upon you sir so you may become an idiot a decent term
> as equal to yours and his. OK no regrets? KR
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: *gopala krishnan* 
> Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 at 07:55
> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS
> LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS
> To: keralaiy...@googlegroups.com , Patty
> Thatha , Iyer ,
> Narayanaswamy Iyer , Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com>, APS Mani , Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Why do you call a retired kernel Mr Sharma an  *idiot*? If he has used
> any abusing word in his mail, you could have pointed it.You are going far
> below of a cultured member.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 05:49:08 pm IST, Rajaram Kr

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-09 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty 
 Mr Rajaram,
I am least bothered whatever you call me, because I was  what I was in official 
position before retirement. I am not uncultured and uncivilized like you. 

All the members in the groups know what position I held before retirement, 
which is immaterial to be a member in any group. Only thing required to be a 
member is educated  and be obedient with the rules of the group.  

Mr Rajaram, be honest, be cultured, be civilized, be humble and be modest. 
Don't abuse others and let down others. 

Understand all members are  well educated and having good caliber. Be other 
members proud of  having a class 1 officer from IRS is in our group. 

Stop all abuses and indecent behavior at least from now on wards. If you 
believe in Hinduism, the burden of  the sins you commit  will have to be met by 
your wards. It is called Munjanma papam. Be a good Hindu. 

I am sending copies of this mail to groups and to a few members also.
Gopalakrishnan


On Friday, 10 May, 2024 at 12:26:48 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 Thank you supervisor KR IRS 
On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 12:12, gopala krishnan  wrote:

In that case your IRS is bogus.Shame with you, the lier,uncultured idiot,Rajaram

Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer 
 
  On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 21:47, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
wrote:   yes supervisor KR
On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 10:17, gopala krishnan  wrote:

 Mr Rajaram,
Are you not having manners? When the entire group know I am ITS class 1, how 
dare you are to write  about me as a supervisor? 
Are you really an IRS? No IRS will write like this. I have to call you in that 
case Bogus IRS. 

You are totally upset. Meet a good doctor in USA.
R Gopalakrishnan former ITS 7024


On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 07:21:28 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 True how pretenders will accept they understand; Goebbels do not; as evident 
from 1000nds of Q and A and other emails apart from hidden office blows and 
Vaishnava forum blows etc. Mug cannot and that also shows your English 
knowledge is so poor. Thank u da  KR  Have you understood monkey back as red 
etc? Pl read . Decent language of the canteen muttal; one is a liar; another 
canteenwalla calling himself as coconut kernel; and the third as ITS but a 
supervisor retd. All bahu decent people KR
On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 08:40, gopala krishnan  wrote:

 Mr Rajaram,
Please write your response in clear English. I am not able to make out what you 
mean from your mailGopalakrishnan

On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 06:35:12 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 There are 3 idiots in the forum scratching each other's backs; one above is 
asking why you are calling so and so as such and such when he had written a 
decent email? only because he wrote a decent email, I also addressed him with 
respect decently; if you feel that it shall come to you pl have that decency 
upon you sir so you may become an idiot a decent term as equal to yours and 
his. OK no regrets? KR
-- Forwarded message -
From: gopala krishnan 
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 at 07:55
Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN 
KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS
To: keralaiy...@googlegroups.com , Patty Thatha 
, Iyer , Narayanaswamy 
Iyer , Rajaram Krishnamurthy , APS 
Mani , Laxminarayan Sarma 


 Mr Rajaram,
Why do you call a retired kernel Mr Sharma an  idiot? If he has used any 
abusing word in his mail, you could have pointed it.You are going far below of 
a cultured member.Gopalakrishnan


   On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 05:49:08 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 Ignored the idiot KR
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 23:48, Laxminarayan Sarma  
wrote:

Hey IaRSe
Nobody questioned or doubted or laid a claim that xy or z is greater than 
Mahaperiyaval. You bird brained rotten  ego misinterprets anything and 
evrything. That's your problem. 
But it goes to prove one thing. And that is the deficiency in your 
underdeveloped and, also, perverted intellect. And your non-existent 
comprehension abilities. Add to this your zero linguistic abilities 
It was in this context that i suggested you sit at the feet of Brahmashri 
Narayanaswmy Anna and get your basics rught 
And , by the way,  I accepted you as my manasika guru in the domain of Tamil 
profanities and you will be glad that i excel you, my guru in this.
Aren't you glad that the sushya has excelked his guru, Shri Rajaram, IRS 999




On Thu, 9 May, 2024, 8:07 am Rajaram Krishnamurthy,  
wrote:

Thank GOD; there is a mahan greater than Maha periyava and accusing and 
rebutting HIM, but turning the table over others. The REV to one ignoramus and 
one anna sarama , I dont know how many more worship him as greater than Maha 
Periyava. Truth is written; as a matter of fact certain scriptures hold more 
which will be presented at the appropriate time. Veda includes all Mere neti 
without any content and quoting wrongly chandogya upanishad will not make a 
fool a king  Thank you KR IRS 9524
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 21

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-09 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
Thank you supervisor KR IRS

On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 12:12, gopala krishnan  wrote:

> In that case your IRS is bogus.Shame with you, the lier,uncultured
> idiot,Rajaram
>
> Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer
> <https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=NativePlacement=Global_Acquisition_YMktg_315_EmailSignatureGrowth_YahooMail:Search,Organize,Conquer_sub1=Acquisition_sub2=Global_YMktg_sub3=_sub4=10945_sub5=OrganizeConquer__Static_>
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 21:47, Rajaram Krishnamurthy
>  wrote:
> yes supervisor KR
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 10:17, gopala krishnan  wrote:
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Are you not having manners? When the entire group know I am ITS class 1,
> how dare you are to write  about me as a* supervisor?*
>
> Are you really an IRS? No IRS will write like this. I have to call you in
> that case Bogus IRS.
>
> You are totally upset. Meet a good doctor in USA.
>
> R Gopalakrishnan former ITS 7024
>
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 07:21:28 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> True how pretenders will accept they understand; Goebbels do not; as
> evident from 1000nds of Q and A and other emails apart from hidden office
> blows and Vaishnava forum blows etc. Mug cannot and that also shows your
> English knowledge is so poor. Thank u da  KR  Have you understood monkey
> back as red etc? Pl read . Decent language of the canteen muttal; one is a
> liar; another canteenwalla calling himself as coconut kernel; and the third
> as ITS but a supervisor retd. All bahu decent people KR
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 08:40, gopala krishnan  wrote:
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Please write your response in clear English. I am not able to make out
> what you mean from your mail
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 06:35:12 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> There are 3 idiots in the forum scratching each other's backs; one above
> is asking why you are calling so and so as such and such when he had
> written a decent email? only because he wrote a decent email, I also
> addressed him with respect decently; if you feel that it shall come to you
> pl have that decency upon you sir so you may become an idiot a decent term
> as equal to yours and his. OK no regrets? KR
>
> ------ Forwarded message -
> From: *gopala krishnan* 
> Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 at 07:55
> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS
> LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS
> To: keralaiy...@googlegroups.com , Patty
> Thatha , Iyer ,
> Narayanaswamy Iyer , Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com>, APS Mani , Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Why do you call a retired kernel Mr Sharma an  *idiot*? If he has used
> any abusing word in his mail, you could have pointed it.You are going far
> below of a cultured member.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 05:49:08 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ignored the idiot KR
>
> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 23:48, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *Hey IaRSe*
>
> *Nobody questioned or doubted or laid a claim that xy or z is greater than
> Mahaperiyaval. You bird brained rotten  ego misinterprets anything and
> evrything. That's your problem. *
>
> *But it goes to prove one thing. And that is the deficiency in your
> underdeveloped and, also, perverted intellect. And your non-existent
> comprehension abilities. Add to this your zero linguistic abilities *
>
> *It was in this context that i suggested you sit at the feet of Brahmashri
> Narayanaswmy Anna and get your basics rught *
>
> *And , by the way,  I accepted you as my manasika guru in the domain of
> Tamil profanities and you will be glad that i excel you, my guru in this.*
>
> *Aren't you glad that the sushya has excelked his guru, Shri Rajaram, IRS
> 999*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 May, 2024, 8:07 am Rajaram Krishnamurthy, 
> wrote:
>
> Thank GOD; there is a mahan greater than Maha periyava and accusing and
> rebutting HIM, but turning the table over others. The REV to one ignoramus
> and one anna sarama , I dont know how many more worship him as greater than
> Maha Periyava. Truth is written; as a matter of fact certain scriptures
> hold more which will be presented at the appropriate time. Veda includes
> all Mere neti without any content and quoting wrongly chandogya upanishad
> will not make a fool a king  Thank you KR IRS 9524
>
> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 21:11, Narayanaswamy Iyer 
> wrote:
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> An absolute abys

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-09 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty 
In that case your IRS is bogus.Shame with you, the lier,uncultured idiot,Rajaram

Yahoo Mail: Search, organise, conquer 
 
  On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 21:47, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
wrote:   yes supervisor KR
On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 10:17, gopala krishnan  wrote:

 Mr Rajaram,
Are you not having manners? When the entire group know I am ITS class 1, how 
dare you are to write  about me as a supervisor? 
Are you really an IRS? No IRS will write like this. I have to call you in that 
case Bogus IRS. 

You are totally upset. Meet a good doctor in USA.
R Gopalakrishnan former ITS 7024


On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 07:21:28 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 True how pretenders will accept they understand; Goebbels do not; as evident 
from 1000nds of Q and A and other emails apart from hidden office blows and 
Vaishnava forum blows etc. Mug cannot and that also shows your English 
knowledge is so poor. Thank u da  KR  Have you understood monkey back as red 
etc? Pl read . Decent language of the canteen muttal; one is a liar; another 
canteenwalla calling himself as coconut kernel; and the third as ITS but a 
supervisor retd. All bahu decent people KR
On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 08:40, gopala krishnan  wrote:

 Mr Rajaram,
Please write your response in clear English. I am not able to make out what you 
mean from your mailGopalakrishnan

On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 06:35:12 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 There are 3 idiots in the forum scratching each other's backs; one above is 
asking why you are calling so and so as such and such when he had written a 
decent email? only because he wrote a decent email, I also addressed him with 
respect decently; if you feel that it shall come to you pl have that decency 
upon you sir so you may become an idiot a decent term as equal to yours and 
his. OK no regrets? KR
-- Forwarded message -
From: gopala krishnan 
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 at 07:55
Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN 
KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS
To: keralaiy...@googlegroups.com , Patty Thatha 
, Iyer , Narayanaswamy 
Iyer , Rajaram Krishnamurthy , APS 
Mani , Laxminarayan Sarma 


 Mr Rajaram,
Why do you call a retired kernel Mr Sharma an  idiot? If he has used any 
abusing word in his mail, you could have pointed it.You are going far below of 
a cultured member.Gopalakrishnan


   On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 05:49:08 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 Ignored the idiot KR
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 23:48, Laxminarayan Sarma  
wrote:

Hey IaRSe
Nobody questioned or doubted or laid a claim that xy or z is greater than 
Mahaperiyaval. You bird brained rotten  ego misinterprets anything and 
evrything. That's your problem. 
But it goes to prove one thing. And that is the deficiency in your 
underdeveloped and, also, perverted intellect. And your non-existent 
comprehension abilities. Add to this your zero linguistic abilities 
It was in this context that i suggested you sit at the feet of Brahmashri 
Narayanaswmy Anna and get your basics rught 
And , by the way,  I accepted you as my manasika guru in the domain of Tamil 
profanities and you will be glad that i excel you, my guru in this.
Aren't you glad that the sushya has excelked his guru, Shri Rajaram, IRS 999




On Thu, 9 May, 2024, 8:07 am Rajaram Krishnamurthy,  
wrote:

Thank GOD; there is a mahan greater than Maha periyava and accusing and 
rebutting HIM, but turning the table over others. The REV to one ignoramus and 
one anna sarama , I dont know how many more worship him as greater than Maha 
Periyava. Truth is written; as a matter of fact certain scriptures hold more 
which will be presented at the appropriate time. Veda includes all Mere neti 
without any content and quoting wrongly chandogya upanishad will not make a 
fool a king  Thank you KR IRS 9524
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 21:11, Narayanaswamy Iyer  wrote:


Dear folks
An absolute abysmal ignoramus preaching undiluted ignorance to the uninitiated. 
 Examples:-
(1)  "The rites meant for the deities must be performed with devotion and those 
meant for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith. What is done with 
devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha."
My comments:-  Both devotion and shraddha are needed for deva-yajnya and for 
pithru-yajnya.
(2)  "Vyasa goes on to state in his Brahmasutra that animal sacrifice is not 
sinful since the act is permeated by the sound of the Vedas."
My comments:-  Are the milliards of cattle and other animals killed for food in 
Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other flesh-eating communities done so while 
reciting vedams?
(3)  "To do "pradakshina" means to go facing the south. (In majority of temples 
the raja-gopuram-the main entrance tower -is in the east. When you enter it and 
start circumbulating you will be facing the south.)"
My comments:-   No.  You don't.  
When you enter a temple, you face the deity, i.e. WEST.  Then you begin

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-09 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
yes supervisor KR

On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 10:17, gopala krishnan  wrote:

> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Are you not having manners? When the entire group know I am ITS class 1,
> how dare you are to write  about me as a* supervisor?*
>
> Are you really an IRS? No IRS will write like this. I have to call you in
> that case Bogus IRS.
>
> You are totally upset. Meet a good doctor in USA.
>
> R Gopalakrishnan former ITS 7024
>
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 07:21:28 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> True how pretenders will accept they understand; Goebbels do not; as
> evident from 1000nds of Q and A and other emails apart from hidden office
> blows and Vaishnava forum blows etc. Mug cannot and that also shows your
> English knowledge is so poor. Thank u da  KR  Have you understood monkey
> back as red etc? Pl read . Decent language of the canteen muttal; one is a
> liar; another canteenwalla calling himself as coconut kernel; and the third
> as ITS but a supervisor retd. All bahu decent people KR
>
> On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 08:40, gopala krishnan  wrote:
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Please write your response in clear English. I am not able to make out
> what you mean from your mail
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 06:35:12 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> There are 3 idiots in the forum scratching each other's backs; one above
> is asking why you are calling so and so as such and such when he had
> written a decent email? only because he wrote a decent email, I also
> addressed him with respect decently; if you feel that it shall come to you
> pl have that decency upon you sir so you may become an idiot a decent term
> as equal to yours and his. OK no regrets? KR
>
> ------ Forwarded message -----
> From: *gopala krishnan* 
> Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 at 07:55
> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS
> LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS
> To: keralaiy...@googlegroups.com , Patty
> Thatha , Iyer ,
> Narayanaswamy Iyer , Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com>, APS Mani , Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Why do you call a retired kernel Mr Sharma an  *idiot*? If he has used
> any abusing word in his mail, you could have pointed it.You are going far
> below of a cultured member.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 05:49:08 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ignored the idiot KR
>
> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 23:48, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *Hey IaRSe*
>
> *Nobody questioned or doubted or laid a claim that xy or z is greater than
> Mahaperiyaval. You bird brained rotten  ego misinterprets anything and
> evrything. That's your problem. *
>
> *But it goes to prove one thing. And that is the deficiency in your
> underdeveloped and, also, perverted intellect. And your non-existent
> comprehension abilities. Add to this your zero linguistic abilities *
>
> *It was in this context that i suggested you sit at the feet of Brahmashri
> Narayanaswmy Anna and get your basics rught *
>
> *And , by the way,  I accepted you as my manasika guru in the domain of
> Tamil profanities and you will be glad that i excel you, my guru in this.*
>
> *Aren't you glad that the sushya has excelked his guru, Shri Rajaram, IRS
> 999*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 May, 2024, 8:07 am Rajaram Krishnamurthy, 
> wrote:
>
> Thank GOD; there is a mahan greater than Maha periyava and accusing and
> rebutting HIM, but turning the table over others. The REV to one ignoramus
> and one anna sarama , I dont know how many more worship him as greater than
> Maha Periyava. Truth is written; as a matter of fact certain scriptures
> hold more which will be presented at the appropriate time. Veda includes
> all Mere neti without any content and quoting wrongly chandogya upanishad
> will not make a fool a king  Thank you KR IRS 9524
>
> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 21:11, Narayanaswamy Iyer 
> wrote:
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> An absolute abysmal ignoramus preaching undiluted ignorance to the
> uninitiated.  Examples:-
>
> (1)  "*The rites meant for the deities must be performed with devotion
> and those meant for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith. What
> is done with devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha.*"
>
> My comments:-  Both devotion and shraddha are needed for deva-yajnya and
> for pithru-yajnya.
>
> (2)  "*Vyasa goes on to state in his Brahmasutra that animal sacrifice is
> not sinful sin

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-09 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty 
 Mr Rajaram,
Are you not having manners? When the entire group know I am ITS class 1, how 
dare you are to write  about me as a supervisor? 
Are you really an IRS? No IRS will write like this. I have to call you in that 
case Bogus IRS. 

You are totally upset. Meet a good doctor in USA.
R Gopalakrishnan former ITS 7024


On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 07:21:28 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 True how pretenders will accept they understand; Goebbels do not; as evident 
from 1000nds of Q and A and other emails apart from hidden office blows and 
Vaishnava forum blows etc. Mug cannot and that also shows your English 
knowledge is so poor. Thank u da  KR  Have you understood monkey back as red 
etc? Pl read . Decent language of the canteen muttal; one is a liar; another 
canteenwalla calling himself as coconut kernel; and the third as ITS but a 
supervisor retd. All bahu decent people KR
On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 08:40, gopala krishnan  wrote:

 Mr Rajaram,
Please write your response in clear English. I am not able to make out what you 
mean from your mailGopalakrishnan

On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 06:35:12 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 There are 3 idiots in the forum scratching each other's backs; one above is 
asking why you are calling so and so as such and such when he had written a 
decent email? only because he wrote a decent email, I also addressed him with 
respect decently; if you feel that it shall come to you pl have that decency 
upon you sir so you may become an idiot a decent term as equal to yours and 
his. OK no regrets? KR
-- Forwarded message -
From: gopala krishnan 
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 at 07:55
Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN 
KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS
To: keralaiy...@googlegroups.com , Patty Thatha 
, Iyer , Narayanaswamy 
Iyer , Rajaram Krishnamurthy , APS 
Mani , Laxminarayan Sarma 


 Mr Rajaram,
Why do you call a retired kernel Mr Sharma an  idiot? If he has used any 
abusing word in his mail, you could have pointed it.You are going far below of 
a cultured member.Gopalakrishnan


   On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 05:49:08 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 Ignored the idiot KR
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 23:48, Laxminarayan Sarma  
wrote:

Hey IaRSe
Nobody questioned or doubted or laid a claim that xy or z is greater than 
Mahaperiyaval. You bird brained rotten  ego misinterprets anything and 
evrything. That's your problem. 
But it goes to prove one thing. And that is the deficiency in your 
underdeveloped and, also, perverted intellect. And your non-existent 
comprehension abilities. Add to this your zero linguistic abilities 
It was in this context that i suggested you sit at the feet of Brahmashri 
Narayanaswmy Anna and get your basics rught 
And , by the way,  I accepted you as my manasika guru in the domain of Tamil 
profanities and you will be glad that i excel you, my guru in this.
Aren't you glad that the sushya has excelked his guru, Shri Rajaram, IRS 999




On Thu, 9 May, 2024, 8:07 am Rajaram Krishnamurthy,  
wrote:

Thank GOD; there is a mahan greater than Maha periyava and accusing and 
rebutting HIM, but turning the table over others. The REV to one ignoramus and 
one anna sarama , I dont know how many more worship him as greater than Maha 
Periyava. Truth is written; as a matter of fact certain scriptures hold more 
which will be presented at the appropriate time. Veda includes all Mere neti 
without any content and quoting wrongly chandogya upanishad will not make a 
fool a king  Thank you KR IRS 9524
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 21:11, Narayanaswamy Iyer  wrote:


Dear folks
An absolute abysmal ignoramus preaching undiluted ignorance to the uninitiated. 
 Examples:-
(1)  "The rites meant for the deities must be performed with devotion and those 
meant for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith. What is done with 
devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha."
My comments:-  Both devotion and shraddha are needed for deva-yajnya and for 
pithru-yajnya.
(2)  "Vyasa goes on to state in his Brahmasutra that animal sacrifice is not 
sinful since the act is permeated by the sound of the Vedas."
My comments:-  Are the milliards of cattle and other animals killed for food in 
Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other flesh-eating communities done so while 
reciting vedams?
(3)  "To do "pradakshina" means to go facing the south. (In majority of temples 
the raja-gopuram-the main entrance tower -is in the east. When you enter it and 
start circumbulating you will be facing the south.)"
My comments:-   No.  You don't.  
When you enter a temple, you face the deity, i.e. WEST.  Then you begin 
circumambulating the garbha-graham where the deity is installed..
(4)  "In the concluding passage of the Chandogya Upanishad whwre ahimsa or 
non-violence is extolled you find these words, "Anyatra tirthebhyah". It means 
ahimsa must be pr

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-09 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
True how pretenders will accept they understand; Goebbels do not; as
evident from 1000nds of Q and A and other emails apart from hidden office
blows and Vaishnava forum blows etc. Mug cannot and that also shows your
English knowledge is so poor. Thank u da  KR  Have you understood monkey
back as red etc? Pl read . Decent language of the canteen muttal; one is a
liar; another canteenwalla calling himself as coconut kernel; and the third
as ITS but a supervisor retd. All bahu decent people KR

On Thu, 9 May 2024 at 08:40, gopala krishnan  wrote:

> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Please write your response in clear English. I am not able to make out
> what you mean from your mail
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 06:35:12 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> There are 3 idiots in the forum scratching each other's backs; one above
> is asking why you are calling so and so as such and such when he had
> written a decent email? only because he wrote a decent email, I also
> addressed him with respect decently; if you feel that it shall come to you
> pl have that decency upon you sir so you may become an idiot a decent term
> as equal to yours and his. OK no regrets? KR
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: *gopala krishnan* 
> Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 at 07:55
> Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS
> LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS
> To: keralaiy...@googlegroups.com , Patty
> Thatha , Iyer ,
> Narayanaswamy Iyer , Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com>, APS Mani , Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Mr Rajaram,
>
> Why do you call a retired kernel Mr Sharma an  *idiot*? If he has used
> any abusing word in his mail, you could have pointed it.You are going far
> below of a cultured member.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
>
> On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 05:49:08 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Ignored the idiot KR
>
> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 23:48, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *Hey IaRSe*
>
> *Nobody questioned or doubted or laid a claim that xy or z is greater than
> Mahaperiyaval. You bird brained rotten  ego misinterprets anything and
> evrything. That's your problem. *
>
> *But it goes to prove one thing. And that is the deficiency in your
> underdeveloped and, also, perverted intellect. And your non-existent
> comprehension abilities. Add to this your zero linguistic abilities *
>
> *It was in this context that i suggested you sit at the feet of Brahmashri
> Narayanaswmy Anna and get your basics rught *
>
> *And , by the way,  I accepted you as my manasika guru in the domain of
> Tamil profanities and you will be glad that i excel you, my guru in this.*
>
> *Aren't you glad that the sushya has excelked his guru, Shri Rajaram, IRS
> 999*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 May, 2024, 8:07 am Rajaram Krishnamurthy, 
> wrote:
>
> Thank GOD; there is a mahan greater than Maha periyava and accusing and
> rebutting HIM, but turning the table over others. The REV to one ignoramus
> and one anna sarama , I dont know how many more worship him as greater than
> Maha Periyava. Truth is written; as a matter of fact certain scriptures
> hold more which will be presented at the appropriate time. Veda includes
> all Mere neti without any content and quoting wrongly chandogya upanishad
> will not make a fool a king  Thank you KR IRS 9524
>
> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 21:11, Narayanaswamy Iyer 
> wrote:
>
>
> Dear folks
>
> An absolute abysmal ignoramus preaching undiluted ignorance to the
> uninitiated.  Examples:-
>
> (1)  "*The rites meant for the deities must be performed with devotion
> and those meant for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith. What
> is done with devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha.*"
>
> My comments:-  Both devotion and shraddha are needed for deva-yajnya and
> for pithru-yajnya.
>
> (2)  "*Vyasa goes on to state in his Brahmasutra that animal sacrifice is
> not sinful since the act is permeated by the sound of the Vedas."*
>
> My comments:-  Are the milliards of cattle and other animals killed for
> food in Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other flesh-eating communities done so
> while reciting vedams?
>
> (3)  "*To do "pradakshina" means to go facing the south. (In majority of
> temples the raja-gopuram-the main entrance tower -is in the east. When you
> enter it and start circumbulating you will be facing the south.)*"
>
> My comments:-   No.  You don't.
>
> When you enter a temple, you face the deity, i.e. WEST.  Then you begin
>

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-09 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty 
 Mr Rajaram,
Please write your response in clear English. I am not able to make out what you 
mean from your mailGopalakrishnan

On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 06:35:12 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 There are 3 idiots in the forum scratching each other's backs; one above is 
asking why you are calling so and so as such and such when he had written a 
decent email? only because he wrote a decent email, I also addressed him with 
respect decently; if you feel that it shall come to you pl have that decency 
upon you sir so you may become an idiot a decent term as equal to yours and 
his. OK no regrets? KR
-- Forwarded message -
From: gopala krishnan 
Date: Thu, 9 May 2024 at 07:55
Subject: Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN 
KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS
To: keralaiy...@googlegroups.com , Patty Thatha 
, Iyer , Narayanaswamy 
Iyer , Rajaram Krishnamurthy , APS 
Mani , Laxminarayan Sarma 


 Mr Rajaram,
Why do you call a retired kernel Mr Sharma an  idiot? If he has used any 
abusing word in his mail, you could have pointed it.You are going far below of 
a cultured member.Gopalakrishnan


   On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 05:49:08 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 Ignored the idiot KR
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 23:48, Laxminarayan Sarma  
wrote:

Hey IaRSe
Nobody questioned or doubted or laid a claim that xy or z is greater than 
Mahaperiyaval. You bird brained rotten  ego misinterprets anything and 
evrything. That's your problem. 
But it goes to prove one thing. And that is the deficiency in your 
underdeveloped and, also, perverted intellect. And your non-existent 
comprehension abilities. Add to this your zero linguistic abilities 
It was in this context that i suggested you sit at the feet of Brahmashri 
Narayanaswmy Anna and get your basics rught 
And , by the way,  I accepted you as my manasika guru in the domain of Tamil 
profanities and you will be glad that i excel you, my guru in this.
Aren't you glad that the sushya has excelked his guru, Shri Rajaram, IRS 999




On Thu, 9 May, 2024, 8:07 am Rajaram Krishnamurthy,  
wrote:

Thank GOD; there is a mahan greater than Maha periyava and accusing and 
rebutting HIM, but turning the table over others. The REV to one ignoramus and 
one anna sarama , I dont know how many more worship him as greater than Maha 
Periyava. Truth is written; as a matter of fact certain scriptures hold more 
which will be presented at the appropriate time. Veda includes all Mere neti 
without any content and quoting wrongly chandogya upanishad will not make a 
fool a king  Thank you KR IRS 9524
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 21:11, Narayanaswamy Iyer  wrote:


Dear folks
An absolute abysmal ignoramus preaching undiluted ignorance to the uninitiated. 
 Examples:-
(1)  "The rites meant for the deities must be performed with devotion and those 
meant for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith. What is done with 
devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha."
My comments:-  Both devotion and shraddha are needed for deva-yajnya and for 
pithru-yajnya.
(2)  "Vyasa goes on to state in his Brahmasutra that animal sacrifice is not 
sinful since the act is permeated by the sound of the Vedas."
My comments:-  Are the milliards of cattle and other animals killed for food in 
Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other flesh-eating communities done so while 
reciting vedams?
(3)  "To do "pradakshina" means to go facing the south. (In majority of temples 
the raja-gopuram-the main entrance tower -is in the east. When you enter it and 
start circumbulating you will be facing the south.)"
My comments:-   No.  You don't.  
When you enter a temple, you face the deity, i.e. WEST.  Then you begin 
circumambulating the garbha-graham where the deity is installed..
(4)  "In the concluding passage of the Chandogya Upanishad whwre ahimsa or 
non-violence is extolled you find these words, "Anyatra tirthebhyah". It means 
ahimsa must be practised except with regard to Vedic rites."
My comments:-  
What the cchaandogya upanishad Cap VIII v 15 says, inter alia, is:  "sansarva 
bhoothaanya anyathra theerthebhyaha".  
Meaning, according to the context, the student, after learning the Vedas from 
his teacher, returns home and takes up the duties of a householder.  
Withdrawing all his organs into Self, not injuring any creature, other than 
what is prescribed in the scriptures, he attains the world of Brahma.

The notorious pervert K RAJARAM ex-IRS 8524 alias Karuppan-chaami twists this 
to mean, according to his own delusion, that ahimsa, including cruelty to all 
living beings, animal-slaughter, and consumption of meat, is permitted under 
the pretext of Vedic rites.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer


On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 12:46 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy  
wrote:


SANATANA DHARMA 18TH PART K RAJARAM IRS 8524 //9524

The rites meant for the deities must be performed withdevotion and t

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-09 Thread 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty 
 Mr Rajaram,
Why do you call a retired kernel Mr Sharma an  idiot? If he has used any 
abusing word in his mail, you could have pointed it.You are going far below of 
a cultured member.Gopalakrishnan


   On Thursday, 9 May, 2024 at 05:49:08 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
 wrote:  
 
 Ignored the idiot KR
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 23:48, Laxminarayan Sarma  
wrote:

Hey IaRSe
Nobody questioned or doubted or laid a claim that xy or z is greater than 
Mahaperiyaval. You bird brained rotten  ego misinterprets anything and 
evrything. That's your problem. 
But it goes to prove one thing. And that is the deficiency in your 
underdeveloped and, also, perverted intellect. And your non-existent 
comprehension abilities. Add to this your zero linguistic abilities 
It was in this context that i suggested you sit at the feet of Brahmashri 
Narayanaswmy Anna and get your basics rught 
And , by the way,  I accepted you as my manasika guru in the domain of Tamil 
profanities and you will be glad that i excel you, my guru in this.
Aren't you glad that the sushya has excelked his guru, Shri Rajaram, IRS 999




On Thu, 9 May, 2024, 8:07 am Rajaram Krishnamurthy,  
wrote:

Thank GOD; there is a mahan greater than Maha periyava and accusing and 
rebutting HIM, but turning the table over others. The REV to one ignoramus and 
one anna sarama , I dont know how many more worship him as greater than Maha 
Periyava. Truth is written; as a matter of fact certain scriptures hold more 
which will be presented at the appropriate time. Veda includes all Mere neti 
without any content and quoting wrongly chandogya upanishad will not make a 
fool a king  Thank you KR IRS 9524
On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 21:11, Narayanaswamy Iyer  wrote:


Dear folks
An absolute abysmal ignoramus preaching undiluted ignorance to the uninitiated. 
 Examples:-
(1)  "The rites meant for the deities must be performed with devotion and those 
meant for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith. What is done with 
devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha."
My comments:-  Both devotion and shraddha are needed for deva-yajnya and for 
pithru-yajnya.
(2)  "Vyasa goes on to state in his Brahmasutra that animal sacrifice is not 
sinful since the act is permeated by the sound of the Vedas."
My comments:-  Are the milliards of cattle and other animals killed for food in 
Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other flesh-eating communities done so while 
reciting vedams?
(3)  "To do "pradakshina" means to go facing the south. (In majority of temples 
the raja-gopuram-the main entrance tower -is in the east. When you enter it and 
start circumbulating you will be facing the south.)"
My comments:-   No.  You don't.  
When you enter a temple, you face the deity, i.e. WEST.  Then you begin 
circumambulating the garbha-graham where the deity is installed..
(4)  "In the concluding passage of the Chandogya Upanishad whwre ahimsa or 
non-violence is extolled you find these words, "Anyatra tirthebhyah". It means 
ahimsa must be practised except with regard to Vedic rites."
My comments:-  
What the cchaandogya upanishad Cap VIII v 15 says, inter alia, is:  "sansarva 
bhoothaanya anyathra theerthebhyaha".  
Meaning, according to the context, the student, after learning the Vedas from 
his teacher, returns home and takes up the duties of a householder.  
Withdrawing all his organs into Self, not injuring any creature, other than 
what is prescribed in the scriptures, he attains the world of Brahma.

The notorious pervert K RAJARAM ex-IRS 8524 alias Karuppan-chaami twists this 
to mean, according to his own delusion, that ahimsa, including cruelty to all 
living beings, animal-slaughter, and consumption of meat, is permitted under 
the pretext of Vedic rites.
S Narayanaswamy Iyer


On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 12:46 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy  
wrote:


SANATANA DHARMA 18TH PART K RAJARAM IRS 8524 //9524

The rites meant for the deities must be performed withdevotion and those meant 
for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith.What is done with 
devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha.While performing the 
former, the sikha must be gathered into a knot and thesacred thread must rest 
on the left shoulder, and while performing the latterthe sikha must be worn 
loose and the sacred thread must rest on the rightshoulder.

The sikha and the sacred thread are meant for these twopurposes. Sannyasins do 
not have either. When they renounce the world they alsorenounce the rites for 
the fathers and cease to worship a number of deities.They adore the Paramatman 
directly without any worldly desire in their hearts.The followers of other 
religions too wear neither a sikha nor a sacred threadand they worship the 
Supreme God directly [that is without going through thestages in which the 
various deities are worshipped].

Let me tell you about the two positions of the sacredthread while performing 
the rites for the celestials and the fathers. We mustface the east as

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-09 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
Ignored the idiot KR

On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 23:48, Laxminarayan Sarma <
laxminarayan.sa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Hey IaRSe*
>
> *Nobody questioned or doubted or laid a claim that xy or z is greater than
> Mahaperiyaval. You bird brained rotten  ego misinterprets anything and
> evrything. That's your problem. *
>
> *But it goes to prove one thing. And that is the deficiency in your
> underdeveloped and, also, perverted intellect. And your non-existent
> comprehension abilities. Add to this your zero linguistic abilities *
>
> *It was in this context that i suggested you sit at the feet of Brahmashri
> Narayanaswmy Anna and get your basics rught *
>
> *And , by the way,  I accepted you as my manasika guru in the domain of
> Tamil profanities and you will be glad that i excel you, my guru in this.*
>
> *Aren't you glad that the sushya has excelked his guru, Shri Rajaram, IRS
> 999*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, 9 May, 2024, 8:07 am Rajaram Krishnamurthy, 
> wrote:
>
>> Thank GOD; there is a mahan greater than Maha periyava and accusing and
>> rebutting HIM, but turning the table over others. The REV to one ignoramus
>> and one anna sarama , I dont know how many more worship him as greater than
>> Maha Periyava. Truth is written; as a matter of fact certain scriptures
>> hold more which will be presented at the appropriate time. Veda includes
>> all Mere neti without any content and quoting wrongly chandogya upanishad
>> will not make a fool a king  Thank you KR IRS 9524
>>
>> On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 21:11, Narayanaswamy Iyer 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear folks
>>>
>>> An absolute abysmal ignoramus preaching undiluted ignorance to the
>>> uninitiated.  Examples:-
>>>
>>> (1)  "*The rites meant for the deities must be performed with devotion
>>> and those meant for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith. What
>>> is done with devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha.*"
>>>
>>> My comments:-  Both devotion and shraddha are needed for deva-yajnya and
>>> for pithru-yajnya.
>>>
>>> (2)  "*Vyasa goes on to state in his Brahmasutra that animal sacrifice
>>> is not sinful since the act is permeated by the sound of the Vedas."*
>>>
>>> My comments:-  Are the milliards of cattle and other animals killed for
>>> food in Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other flesh-eating communities
>>> done so while reciting vedams?
>>>
>>> (3)  "*To do "pradakshina" means to go facing the south. (In majority
>>> of temples the raja-gopuram-the main entrance tower -is in the east. When
>>> you enter it and start circumbulating you will be facing the south.)*"
>>>
>>> My comments:-   No.  You don't.
>>>
>>> When you enter a temple, you face the deity, i.e. WEST.  Then you begin
>>> *circumambulating* the garbha-graham where the deity is installed..
>>>
>>> (4)  "*In the concluding passage
>>> **
>>>  of
>>> the Chandogya Upanishad whwre ahimsa or non-violence is extolled you find
>>> these words, "Anyatra tirthebhyah". It means ahimsa must be practised
>>> except with regard to Vedic rites.*"
>>>
>>> My comments:-
>>>
>>> What the cchaandogya upanishad Cap VIII v 15 says, inter alia, is:
>>> "sansarva bhoothaanya anyathra theerthebhyaha".
>>>
>>> Meaning, according to the context, the student, after learning the Vedas
>>> from his teacher, returns home and takes up the duties of a householder.
>>> Withdrawing all his organs into Self, not injuring any creature, other than
>>> what is prescribed in the scriptures, he attains the world of Brahma.
>>>
>>> The notorious pervert K RAJARAM ex-IRS 8524 alias Karuppan-chaami
>>> twists this to mean, according to his own delusion, that ahimsa, including
>>> cruelty to all living beings, animal-slaughter, and consumption of meat, is
>>> permitted under the pretext of Vedic rites.
>>>
>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 12:46 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
>>> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 SANATANA DHARMA 18 TH PART K RAJARAM IRS 8524 //9524

 The rites meant for the deities must be performed with devotion and
 those meant for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith. What is
 done with devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha. While
 performing the former, the sikha must be gathered into a knot and the
 sacred thread must rest on the left shoulder, and while performing the
 latter the sikha must be worn loose and the sacred thread must rest on the
 right shoulder.

 The sikha and the sacred thread are meant for these two purposes.
 Sannyasins do not have either. When they renounce the world they also
 renounce the rites for the fathers and cease to worship a number of
 deities. They adore the Paramatman directly without any worldly desire in
 their hearts. The followers of other religions too wear neither a sikha nor
 a sacred thread and they worship the Supreme God

Re: [iyer123] Re: [KeralaIyers] SANATANA DHARMA PART 18 KR IRS LDN KANCHI K RAJARAM IRS

2024-05-08 Thread Rajaram Krishnamurthy 
Thank GOD; there is a mahan greater than Maha periyava and accusing and
rebutting HIM, but turning the table over others. The REV to one ignoramus
and one anna sarama , I dont know how many more worship him as greater than
Maha Periyava. Truth is written; as a matter of fact certain scriptures
hold more which will be presented at the appropriate time. Veda includes
all Mere neti without any content and quoting wrongly chandogya upanishad
will not make a fool a king  Thank you KR IRS 9524

On Wed, 8 May 2024 at 21:11, Narayanaswamy Iyer  wrote:

>
> Dear folks
>
> An absolute abysmal ignoramus preaching undiluted ignorance to the
> uninitiated.  Examples:-
>
> (1)  "*The rites meant for the deities must be performed with devotion
> and those meant for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith. What
> is done with devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha.*"
>
> My comments:-  Both devotion and shraddha are needed for deva-yajnya and
> for pithru-yajnya.
>
> (2)  "*Vyasa goes on to state in his Brahmasutra that animal sacrifice is
> not sinful since the act is permeated by the sound of the Vedas."*
>
> My comments:-  Are the milliards of cattle and other animals killed for
> food in Jewish, Christian, Muslim and other flesh-eating communities done so
> while reciting vedams?
>
> (3)  "*To do "pradakshina" means to go facing the south. (In majority of
> temples the raja-gopuram-the main entrance tower -is in the east. When you
> enter it and start circumbulating you will be facing the south.)*"
>
> My comments:-   No.  You don't.
>
> When you enter a temple, you face the deity, i.e. WEST.  Then you begin
> *circumambulating* the garbha-graham where the deity is installed..
>
> (4)  "*In the concluding passage
> **
>  of
> the Chandogya Upanishad whwre ahimsa or non-violence is extolled you find
> these words, "Anyatra tirthebhyah". It means ahimsa must be practised
> except with regard to Vedic rites.*"
>
> My comments:-
>
> What the cchaandogya upanishad Cap VIII v 15 says, inter alia, is:
> "sansarva bhoothaanya anyathra theerthebhyaha".
>
> Meaning, according to the context, the student, after learning the Vedas
> from his teacher, returns home and takes up the duties of a householder.
> Withdrawing all his organs into Self, not injuring any creature, other than
> what is prescribed in the scriptures, he attains the world of Brahma.
>
> The notorious pervert K RAJARAM ex-IRS 8524 alias Karuppan-chaami twists
> this to mean, according to his own delusion, that ahimsa, including cruelty
> to all living beings, animal-slaughter, and consumption of meat, is
> permitted under the pretext of Vedic rites.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 12:46 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> SANATANA DHARMA 18 TH PART K RAJARAM IRS 8524 //9524
>>
>> The rites meant for the deities must be performed with devotion and those
>> meant for the pitrs or fathers must be performed with faith. What is done
>> with devotion is yajna and what is done with faith is sraddha. While
>> performing the former, the sikha must be gathered into a knot and the
>> sacred thread must rest on the left shoulder, and while performing the
>> latter the sikha must be worn loose and the sacred thread must rest on the
>> right shoulder.
>>
>> The sikha and the sacred thread are meant for these two purposes.
>> Sannyasins do not have either. When they renounce the world they also
>> renounce the rites for the fathers and cease to worship a number of
>> deities. They adore the Paramatman directly without any worldly desire in
>> their hearts. The followers of other religions too wear neither a sikha nor
>> a sacred thread and they worship the Supreme God directly [that is without
>> going through the stages in which the various deities are worshipped].
>>
>> Let me tell you about the two positions of the sacred thread while
>> performing the rites for the celestials and the fathers. We must face the
>> east as we conduct various rituals. The north is the direction in which we
>> make the passage to the celestials. This path is called ""uttarayana". Our
>> departed fathers reside in the south. The saint-poet Tiruvalluvar calls
>> them "tenpulattar", those dwelling in the south. "Dakshinayana" is the way
>> to the world of the fathers. Bhagavan Krsna speaks of the two paths in
>> the Gita
>> 
>> .
>>
>> When we sit facing the east to perform rites for the pitrs, which
>> shoulder is to the south? The right one. So the sacred thread must rest on
>> it.
>>
>> To do "pradakshina" means to go facing the south. (In majority of temples
>> the raja-gopuram-the main entrance tower -is in the east. When you enter it
>> and start circumbulating you will be facing the south. )
>>
>> When we sit facing the east