Re: [tw] Mark external links using CSS and inline image

2012-09-22 Thread tiziano de togni

Il 19/09/2012 15:18, Stephan Hradek ha scritto:

Hi!

I'm using TiddlyWiki for some days now and really like it. I also started
to tweak a bit the sytlesheets and thought that, maybe, some of you would
like to have a small icon after external links too.

For this, I edited the StyleSheetLayout tiddler, adding the 2 definitions
below. Hope you like it.



where did you find this extremely compact icon? There are more like this 
somewhere?


yes I like it, for TiddlyWiki this technique is very useful for small UI 
icons, and images because the file doesn't depend from external images 
and works even when it's downloaded and used locally.


but you should also explain us the underlying technique.

By using the Data URI scheme [1] you can embed images directly into your 
HTML and CSS. It works by encoding an image into a base64 string and 
place it directly withing an HTML image tag or as a CSS background URL. 
The image below is encoded directly into the HTML on the page:
img alt= 
src=data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhEgASAKIGAO7u7ru7u3d3d4iIiKqqqv///wAAACH5BAEAAAYALAASABIAAAMgaLrc/jDKSau9OOvNcSBgGEhEYZ4DeQIFkEbEIM9CdyUAOw== 
/


or declared into a CSS rule:
background-image: 
url(data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhEgASAKIGAO7u7ru7u3d3d4iIiKqqqv///wAAACH5BAEAAAYALAASABIAAAMgaLrc/jDKSau9OOvNcSBgGEhEYZ4DeQIFkEbEIM9CdyUAOw==);



Tiddlytools offers a package to store or link binary files (such as 
jpg, gif, pdf or even mp3) within your TiddlyWiki document and then use 
them as images or links from within your tiddler content [2].


Also, I think every OS has it's own command line base64 command to 
encode files to base64.

-
[1] http://www.phpied.com/data-urls-what-are-they-and-how-to-use/
[2] http://www.tiddlytools.com/#AttachFilePackage

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[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-09-22 Thread TonG
Hi Vincent;

Forgot to mention in the last post:
Tested with Win 7  FF 15
The autosave problem was also found with Google Chrome 17 portable.
A Minimal Test Case with TableEditor did autosave correctly in FF.
There must be a conflicting plugin. I tried to disable the plugins
that use autoSaveChanges to no avail. There are about 20 plugins
left to try :-)

Cheers,

Ton

On Sep 21, 7:55 pm, TonG ton.ger...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Vincent,

 The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things:
 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay
 problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the
 table and text overlay.
 I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling
 the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the
 offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did
 not show up anymore!
 Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for
 editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling
 editing restores a good display. I assume a rendering problem.
 2) In the same TW autosave does not work anymore when the
 TableEditor is enabled.
 I use config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged
 tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor
 plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore.
 I tried config.options.chkAutoSave : true in SystemSettings but that
 did not work either; no autosave anymore with TableEditor enabled.
 Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2]
 by Jon Robson (which both use autoSaveChanges as well) did not help
 either.
 I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a
 workaround. Now I can toggle the systemConfig tag to enable the
 TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled autosave works as
 expected.

 Cheers,

 Ton

 [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin
 [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr
 [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin

 On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote:







  Hello Vincent,

  sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to
  consistent testing in several days.

  Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to
  investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at
  [1]?

  As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should try
  iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's
  transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus which
  bothers you?

  Best regards,
  Yakov.

  [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/
  [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/
  [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar

  понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh
  написал:

   Yakov,

   I keep getting an error saying access forbidden clicking the link below.
   Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here?

   I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the features
   working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do any 
   useful
   test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? I'll use a
   larger one to test when I have a chance.

   FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't found one
   Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet.

   Cheers

   Vincent

   On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:

   Hello Vincent,

   thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in the
   mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, Chrome 21.0
   (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the E button in tables 
   without
   a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is more
   painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app..

   A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide the code
   using the following wrapper:

   /***
   [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options]
   /%
   ***/
        [code here]
   /***
   %/
   ***/

   As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but found that
   tiddler .. macro gets an error if used with section which contains a
   table:  tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a table]].
   Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one tiddler, transcluded
   it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content of the first
   tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is opened at 
   the
   same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is shown as it
   was before editing).

   I also did a test with merged cells (||one long cell|, |one high
   cell|\n|~|) and it seems that everything works fine.

   Is it cut-and-past the whole column to the one next you are talking
   about?

   If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not yet, 

[tw] Re: Deeper levels in PopUp Menu by Saq Imtiaz

2012-09-22 Thread DrCory
Thanks Gentlemen, this looks like what I need! (simplepopup)


 DrCory


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[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-09-22 Thread Vincent Yeh
Yakov,

We all face problems from time to time, aren't we? Take good care.

The link at [1] is still giving me Sorry, access forbidden. Error 403. at 
the bottom of the page. I do, however, see a large Download button which 
is giving me a file named etypesetup.exe. Is that what I am supposed to 
have? Well, it's fine if the link doesn't work for me since the attachment 
is good and I see all the screenshots included. Seems like I really need to 
get a hand on AdnTidWiki to really know what's going on... Thanks for the 
advice on android phone, I will find time to try it in a few days.

Cheers,

Vincent

On Friday, September 21, 2012 6:23:51 PM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:

 Hello Vincent,

 sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to 
 consistent testing in several days.

 Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to 
 investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at 
 [1]?

 As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should try 
 iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's 
 transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus which 
 bothers you?

 Best regards,
 Yakov.

 [1] http://yakovl.bplaced.net/
 [2] http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/
 [3] http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar

 понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh 
 написал:

 Yakov,

 I keep getting an error saying access forbidden clicking the link 
 below. Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here?

 I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the features 
 working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do any useful 
 test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? I'll use a 
 larger one to test when I have a chance.

 FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't found one 
 Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet.

 Cheers

 Vincent

 On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:

 Hello Vincent,

 thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in the 
 mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, Chrome 21.0 
 (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the E button in tables without 
 a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is more 
 painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app..

 A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide the code 
 using the following wrapper:

 /***
 [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options]
 /%
 ***/
  [code here]
 /***
 %/
 ***/

 As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but found that 
 tiddler .. macro gets an error if used with section which contains a 
 table:  tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a table]]. 
 Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one tiddler, transcluded 
 it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content of the first 
 tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is opened at the 
 same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is shown as it 
 was before editing).

 I also did a test with merged cells (||one long cell|, |one high 
 cell|\n|~|) and it seems that everything works fine.

 Is it cut-and-past the whole column to the one next you are talking 
 about?

 If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not yet, though). 
 If I am misunderstanding, please tell me more about it.


 I mean if a table has colomns A, B, C, D, shifting C to the left is 
 changing the table so that it has A, C, B, D, and then C, A, B, D. It is 
 close to copy+paste, just means cutting/pasting of the whole colomn 
 (instead of its content as it is done in office-like apps, so that one 
 needs to delete the colomn after cutting the content and create a new 
 colomn before inserting the content). Less efforts for such manual sorting 
 would be nice.

 As for the behavior in AndTidWiki (it's an Android app which acts as a 
 TiddlySaver.jar), I made a bunch of screenshots [1]. Sorry, I haven't 
 studied any tool which creates a photo gallery, so there are just files at 
 [1]; though, I made a zip file so that you can download them at once. The 
 sequence is approximately the same as I reported previously. Watch the top 
 table (two others are without names, so are not editable in AndTidWiki), 
 the names of the pictures say what is done before each screenshot is taken.

 [1] http://yakovl.bplaced.net/materials/TW/table%20editor%20report/ 



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[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-09-22 Thread Vincent Yeh
Ton,

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote:

 Hi Vincent, 

 The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 
 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay 
 problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the 
 table and text overlay.


That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed it in 
v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version?
 


 I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling 
 the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the 
 offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did 
 not show up anymore! 
 Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for 
 editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling 
 editing restores a good display. I assume a rendering problem. 


I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back normal 
after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the browser or 
some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this yet.
 

 2) In the same TW autosave does not work anymore when the 
 TableEditor is enabled. 
 I use config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged 
 tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor 
 plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. 
 I tried config.options.chkAutoSave : true in SystemSettings but that 
 did not work either; no autosave anymore with TableEditor enabled. 
 Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2] 
 by Jon Robson (which both use autoSaveChanges as well) did not help 
 either. 
 I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a 
 workaround. Now I can toggle the systemConfig tag to enable the 
 TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled autosave works as 
 expected. 


One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is interfering with 
the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and just use 
the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is conflicting 
with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You can try 
to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going wrong.
 

 Cheers, 

 Ton 

 [1] http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin 
 [2] http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr 
 [3] http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin 



Let's keep having fun!

Vincent
 

 On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Hello Vincent, 
  
  sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to 
  consistent testing in several days. 
  
  Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to 
  investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at 
  [1]? 
  
  As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should 
 try 
  iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's 
  transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus 
 which 
  bothers you? 
  
  Best regards, 
  Yakov. 
  
  [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/ 
  [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/ 
  [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar 
  
  понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh 
  написал: 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   Yakov, 
  
   I keep getting an error saying access forbidden clicking the link 
 below. 
   Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here? 
  
   I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the 
 features 
   working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do any 
 useful 
   test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? I'll 
 use a 
   larger one to test when I have a chance. 
  
   FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't found 
 one 
   Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet. 
  
   Cheers 
  
   Vincent 
  
   On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: 
  
   Hello Vincent, 
  
   thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in the 
   mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, Chrome 
 21.0 
   (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the E button in tables 
 without 
   a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is 
 more 
   painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app.. 
  
   A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide the code 
   using the following wrapper: 
  
   /*** 
   [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options] 
   /% 
   ***/ 
[code here] 
   /*** 
   %/ 
   ***/ 
  
   As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but found that 
   tiddler .. macro gets an error if used with section which 
 contains a 
   table:  tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a 
 table]]. 
   Simple transclusion test works: 

[tw] Positioning Popups via CSS in TiddlyTools ShowPopUpPlugin

2012-09-22 Thread Jan Johannpeter

Hello
I would like to give a PopUp containing a two level Menu a fixed 
position in the Browserwindow.
Using Tiddlytools show PopUpPlugin 
http://www.tiddlytools.com/#ShowPopupPlugin and trying a CSS code like


.specialPop {position:fixed; top:45px; left:10px;}

the PopUp appears fixed but always right below the Button.

Usinig margin-top as parameter, the position is altered but is also 
dependend on the button.


Is the CSS overridden by the plugin's code? Is it possible to make the 
popup appear always on the same place independent from where the button 
is pressed?


Thanks for Help! Jan

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[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-09-22 Thread TonG
Hi Vincent,

I found the conflicting plugin: YourSearchPlugin [1] from Udo
Borkowski (abego-software).
When TableEditor (v1.3.7) and YourSearchPlugin are both enabled
autosave does not work anymore.
With only TableEditor enabled or only YourSearchPlugin enabled
autosave does work as expected.
I made a Minimal Test Case [2].

Cheers,

Ton


[1] http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#YourSearchPlugin
[2] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TableEditor_137_YourSearch.html

On Sep 22, 7:17 pm, Vincent Yeh qmo.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ton,

 On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote:

  Hi Vincent,

  The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things:
  1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay
  problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the
  table and text overlay.

 That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed it in
 v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version?



  I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling
  the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the
  offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did
  not show up anymore!
  Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for
  editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling
  editing restores a good display. I assume a rendering problem.

 I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back normal
 after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the browser or
 some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this yet.









  2) In the same TW autosave does not work anymore when the
  TableEditor is enabled.
  I use config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged
  tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor
  plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore.
  I tried config.options.chkAutoSave : true in SystemSettings but that
  did not work either; no autosave anymore with TableEditor enabled.
  Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2]
  by Jon Robson (which both use autoSaveChanges as well) did not help
  either.
  I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a
  workaround. Now I can toggle the systemConfig tag to enable the
  TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled autosave works as
  expected.

 One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is interfering with
 the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and just use
 the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is conflicting
 with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You can try
 to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going wrong.

  Cheers,

  Ton

  [1]http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin
  [2]http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr
  [3]http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin

 Let's keep having fun!

 Vincent







  On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com wrote:
   Hello Vincent,

   sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to
   consistent testing in several days.

   Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to
   investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at
   [1]?

   As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should
  try
   iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's
   transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus
  which
   bothers you?

   Best regards,
   Yakov.

   [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/
   [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/
   [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar

   понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh
   написал:

Yakov,

I keep getting an error saying access forbidden clicking the link
  below.
Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here?

I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the
  features
working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do any
  useful
test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? I'll
  use a
larger one to test when I have a chance.

FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't found
  one
Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet.

Cheers

Vincent

On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote:

Hello Vincent,

thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in the
mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, Chrome
  21.0
(latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the E button in tables
  without
a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is
  more
painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app..

A small note: for 

[tw] Really Stupid Linux trick

2012-09-22 Thread Jonnan
This is only a I wonder if this will work till they get the Firefox plugin 
done idea, but I've tested it, and oddly enough it seems to work.

If you install chrome and Sun Java on your linux box, you can stick your 
tiddlywiki in your ~/bin folder, Make the first line 
#!/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome, put the tiddlysaver.jar in the same 
folder, and make said file executable.
type the filename at the command line, and chrome will happily open it and 
let you edit it. I thought it would overwrite the headerline when I saved, 
but it doesn't seem to, and it's more convenient than manually opening it 
in chrome till they get the firefox (which I infinitely prefer) plugin 
finished.

I kinda like it - when they do get firefox finished, I'll probably just 
change the header to #!/usr/bin/firefox.

Jonnan

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[tw] Receiving return responses from code inside a html form

2012-09-22 Thread skye riquelme
Hi All

Trying to understand more about javascript in TiddlyWiki and Html forms.

I gave a script that I use so people can login to a TW page (on-line). Now 
the script responds with various messages (using the javascript return 
command) and all works well when the script is in a seperate tiddler 
(obviously I have InlineJavascriptPlugin installed!!).

Now if I put that script inside a html form (which collects the users login 
details), the script is processed when the user hits the button (input 
type=button...)... but the return messages are not seen! Why not?

And is there some way I can get to see those messages...as the user needs 
the confirmation (logged in...login failed...that the javascript is 
generating.)

Thanks in Advance
Skye

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[tw] Re: Inline Editing of tables

2012-09-22 Thread Lyall
FYI: I notice that the links in the top description of the plugin do not 
actually point to the source of the table edit plugin.

The problem is that the URL is immediately followed by a br/, with no 
space.

TW linkifying soaks up this and breaks the URL. I guess this is actually a 
defect in TiddlyWiki URL'ifying code.

I am only guessing but maybe you used the table editor to edit this cell? 
The auto translation of newlines to br./ maybe should replace newline 
with spacebr/, to work around this problem.

Awesome work...

:)

...Lyall

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