Ton,

On Saturday, September 22, 2012 1:55:48 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote:
>
> Hi Vincent, 
>
> The TableEditor (v1.3.6) works great but I found two things: 
> 1) At one time - used in a TW with many plugins - I got the 'overlay 
> problem': text positioned below the table is shifted to the top so the 
> table and text overlay.


That could be the resiziong bug I found lately. I should have fixed it in 
v1.3.7. Are you still having this problem with the latest version?
 

>
> I tried to pinpoint the problem by disabling plugins. After disabling 
> the first plugin the problem disappeared so I thought I found the 
> offending plugin. But after enabling the plugin again the problem did 
> not show up anymore! 
> Irreproducible problems are very frustrating. Sometimes opening (for 
> editing) the tiddler with overlay problems and thereafter canceling 
> editing restores a "good" display. I assume a rendering problem. 
>

I had such experiences myself a few times, but it all came back normal 
after relaunching the browser. I am guessing it could be the browser or 
some deeply hidden bug that I haven't found. Not sure about this yet.
 

> 2) In the same TW "autosave" does not work anymore when the 
> TableEditor is enabled. 
> I use "config.options.chkAutoSave = true;" in a "systemConfig" tagged 
> tiddler which works OK without the TableEditor; when the TableEditor 
> plugin is enabled autosave does not work anymore. 
> I tried "config.options.chkAutoSave : true" in SystemSettings but that 
> did not work either; no "autosave" anymore with TableEditor enabled. 
> Disabling TagSearchPlugin [1] by Tobias Beer and TiddlyFileImportr [2] 
> by Jon Robson (which both use "autoSaveChanges" as well) did not help 
> either. 
> I ended up using the ToggleTagPlugin [3] by Simon Baird as a 
> workaround. Now I can toggle the "systemConfig" tag to enable the 
> TableEditoronly when needed; when disabled "autosave" works as 
> expected. 
>
>
One possibility is that the chkTEditorManualSave option is interfering with 
the system autosave option. Maybe I should remove this option and just use 
the system option? Another possibility is the TableEditor is conflicting 
with some plugin that also hijacks the saveChanges() function. You can try 
to find one that does so and I'll try to find out what's going wrong.
 

> Cheers, 
>
> Ton 
>
> [1] http://tagsearch.tiddlyspot.com/#TagSearchPlugin 
> [2] http://repository.tiddlyspace.com/TiddlyFileImportr 
> [3] http://mptw.tiddlyspot.com/#ToggleTagPlugin 
>
>
>
Let's keep having fun!

Vincent
 

> On Sep 21, 12:23 pm, Yakov <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > Hello Vincent, 
> > 
> > sorry for long silence, got some major problems.. I think I'll return to 
> > consistent testing in several days. 
> > 
> > Ok, I added the archive with screenshots to this message. It's better to 
> > investigate why the site isn't visible, though.. Can you see anything at 
> > [1]? 
> > 
> > As for Android devices.. if you use TW on a phone, you probably should 
> try 
> > iTW [2] (AndTidWiki can generate a new one) or use at least 2 Eric's 
> > transclusions [3] to get more room. Or is there something aside menus 
> which 
> > bothers you? 
> > 
> > Best regards, 
> > Yakov. 
> > 
> > [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/ 
> > [2]http://tiddlywiki.bidix.info/ 
> > [3]http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleRightSidebar%20ToggleLeftSidebar 
> > 
> > понедельник, 17 сентября 2012 г., 8:15:30 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh 
> > написал: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > Yakov, 
> > 
> > > I keep getting an error saying "access forbidden" clicking the link 
> below. 
> > > Maybe we try another way? Or just a couple of screenshots here? 
> > 
> > > I tried AndTidWikky on my Android phone and did see some of the 
> features 
> > > working while others not, but the screen is just too small to do any 
> useful 
> > > test. I am guessing special tricks are needed for AndTidWikky? I'll 
> use a 
> > > larger one to test when I have a chance. 
> > 
> > > FF15 for Android refuses to install on my phone, and I haven't found 
> one 
> > > Vista 64 system nearby, so no way to try them myself yet. 
> > 
> > > Cheers 
> > 
> > > Vincent 
> > 
> > > On Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:10:03 AM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: 
> > 
> > >> Hello Vincent, 
> > 
> > >> thanks for the update, now extra captions are not displayed in the 
> > >> mentioned browsers which is fine for me; on the other hand, Chrome 
> 21.0 
> > >> (latest) and Safari 5.0.3 still don't show the "E" button in tables 
> without 
> > >> a caption (OS: Vista x64); the same thing in AndTidWiki (which is 
> more 
> > >> painful for me). I guess those are WebKit browsers/app.. 
> > 
> > >> A small note: for TableEditor--MIN it may be useful to hide the code 
> > >> using the following wrapper: 
> > 
> > >> /*** 
> > >> [the header of the plugin, other visible things like Options] 
> > >> /% 
> > >> ***/ 
> > >>      [code here] 
> > >> /*** 
> > >> %/ 
> > >> ***/ 
> > 
> > >> As for transclusions, I haven't done extended tests, but found that 
> > >> <<tiddler ..>> macro gets an error if used with section which 
> contains a 
> > >> table:  <<tiddler [[This or another tiddler##a section with a 
> table]]>>. 
> > >> Simple transclusion test works: I put a table in one tiddler, 
> transcluded 
> > >> it into another, edited the table there, no errors, content of the 
> first 
> > >> tiddler is changed. The only note is if the first tiddler is opened 
> at the 
> > >> same time, its representation is not refreshed (the table is shown as 
> it 
> > >> was before editing). 
> > 
> > >> I also did a test with merged cells ("|>|one long cell|", "|one high 
> > >> cell|\n|~|") and it seems that everything works fine. 
> > 
> > >> Is it "cut-and-past the whole column to the one next" you are talking 
> > >>> about? 
> > 
> > >> If so then I'd rather just do the cut-and-past alone (not yet, 
> though). 
> > >>> If I am misunderstanding, please tell me more about it. 
> > 
> > >> I mean if a table has colomns A, B, C, D, shifting C to the left is 
> > >> changing the table so that it has A, C, B, D, and then C, A, B, D. It 
> is 
> > >> close to copy+paste, just means cutting/pasting of the whole colomn 
> > >> (instead of its content as it is done in office-like apps, so that 
> one 
> > >> needs to delete the colomn after cutting the content and create a new 
> > >> colomn before inserting the content). Less efforts for such manual 
> sorting 
> > >> would be nice. 
> > 
> > >> As for the behavior in AndTidWiki (it's an Android app which acts as 
> a 
> > >> TiddlySaver.jar), I made a bunch of screenshots [1]. Sorry, I haven't 
> > >> studied any tool which creates a photo gallery, so there are just 
> files at 
> > >> [1]; though, I made a zip file so that you can download them at once. 
> The 
> > >> sequence is approximately the same as I reported previously. Watch 
> the top 
> > >> table (two others are without names, so are not editable in 
> AndTidWiki), 
> > >> the names of the pictures say what is done before each screenshot is 
> taken. 
> > 
> > >> [1]http://yakovl.bplaced.net/materials/TW/table%20editor%20report/ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  table editor report.zip 
> > 1757KViewDownload 
>

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