Re: [tw] using HTML5 localStorage in forms?
Thanks Tizianothat worked. Em quarta-feira, 21 de novembro de 2012 19h20min26s UTC-2, tiziano escreveu: Il 21/11/2012 21:43, skye riquelme ha scritto: Hi All I have been using localStorage extensively in my TW work, but cant seem to get access to the data from within html formsfor eample...why doesnt this simple bit of code set the localStorage item test?? (the wikify at the end is just to check if test got set.) Try this snippet, it should work: html form name=myform action= method=GETEnter something in the box: BR INPUT TYPE=text NAME=inputbox VALUE= INPUT TYPE=button NAME=button Value=Click onClick=testResults(this.form) /form /htmlscript testResults= function(form) { var TestVar = form.inputbox.value; var test=localStorage.setItem(test,TestVar); wikify(localStorage key test = + localStorage.getItem(test)+\n,place ); } /script regards -- tiziano de togni __ http://tizziano.altervista.org/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/YdI2sIbUeZIJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Cross-domain woes!!!
Hi All I have a eLearning platform running fairly well directly online, based on UploadPlugin and the use of some php scripts to store online data in simple txt files Now I need to consider students who do not have continual online access (still quite a reality in Brasil) and who need to study using my platform in offline (USB) mode. My thinking is that when a student is connected, to download the server-side txt files to the USB (probably svae them in localStorage as well) to store offline additions in another localStorage and to re-integrate this new data when the student re-connects. My problem is downloading the server-side txt files to a local TW - seems I am hitting cross-domain problems. Online I use a code like - script var out=; var xmlHttp = null; xmlHttp = new XMLHttpRequest(); var discFile=/someTextFile.txt; xmlHttp.open( GET,discFile, false); xmlHttp.send( null ); var returnText =xmlHttp.responseText; var lines=returnText.split(#\n); to get the data from the txt filebut using this from the offline TW does not work.the data is not passed to the offline TW !!! How to get around this? How to get the txt data from the server to the offline TW??? Thanks in Advance Skye -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/vzPl5xTTTHwJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] TiddlyFox 1.0alpha7: Fewer confirmation alerts
I've just uploaded a new alpha release of TiddlyFox that avoids that pesky confirmation alert every time you open a TiddlyWiki document. It now remembers each document that you approve and doesn't ask a second time for the same URL. The new version won't hit the Mozilla add-ons site for a few days, so head over to GitHub to download it: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfox.xpi With many thanks to Dimitris Gardiklis, who contributed the original code. Cheers Jeremy -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Save Changes not working
I upgraded to FF17 today (64-bit Linux) and can confirm that the older trick of editing your prefs.js as described earlier in this email thread no longer works. That is confirmed in this long thread on the mozilla site: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546848 So, it looks like the only way to use TiddlyWiki on Firefox as a single file (ie., not using TiddlySaver.jar) going forward is to use the Tiddlyfox plug in, so many thanks to Jeremy for providing it. That means we get an annoying popup dialog box every time you open tiddlywiki from now on, but I'll learn to live with it. -Michael On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:21:39 AM UTC-5, Theo K. wrote: Hi, I upgraded yesterday to Firefox 17 and am a heavy user of TiddlyWikis. Surprisingly, the update broke the save operation for my mGSD - Getting things done - wiki. Surprisingly, because I've installed the TiddlyFox extension ( https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/tiddlyfox) which should enable saving. Even more surprising, other wiki still were able to save using that extension, but not that one. I've found a solution for that, as well, more on that below. - So in your case I would install the TiddlyFox extension and check then if saving works. If it does, you're done. - If not, have a look at the pre head section in your tiddlywiki with a texteditor. Mine had some Google analytics code in there. Upon removing that code, the TiddlyFox extensions started to work with this wiki as well. - If you find code there, be sure to check the MarkupPreHead-Tiddler. In my case this tiddler caused a reinsertion of the analytics code in the prehead section. Clearing this tiddler helped. On a side note, the new Firefox-version killed the FirefoxPriveledgesPlugin as well. It now states Error: TypeError: netscape.security.PrivilegeManager is undefined when trying to view the privileges. Hope that helps, Theo On Wednesday, November 21, 2012 10:21:24 AM UTC+1, PhilBee wrote: Hi, I have just experienced a similar problem with FF 17.0. While my TW works fine with FF Version 9 and FF Version 11, as soon as I try to 'SaveChanges' with Version 17. I think the problem is with the latest releases of FF because I get similar problems with other non-TW programs. Any suggestions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/gkUd7Brh6z0J. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TiddlyFox 1.0alpha7: Fewer confirmation alerts
Appreciate your Effort Jeremy. This will smooth my every day workflow.. TonyM On Friday, November 23, 2012 9:17:54 AM UTC+11, Jeremy Ruston wrote: I've just uploaded a new alpha release of TiddlyFox that avoids that pesky confirmation alert every time you open a TiddlyWiki document. It now remembers each document that you approve and doesn't ask a second time for the same URL. The new version won't hit the Mozilla add-ons site for a few days, so head over to GitHub to download it: https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfox.xpi With many thanks to Dimitris Gardiklis, who contributed the original code. Cheers Jeremy -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com javascript: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/BVL4FdYXsOIJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: TiddlySpace RFC
I think that Tiddlyspace should congratulate itself on achieving 6000 users with really no marketing at all. What next? First, selfishly, *don't do anything that will break the stuff that is already there* - the AMBIT project now have over 30 mental health teams from all over the UK and possibly teams from beyond the UK (we certainly get plenty of hits from all over the world) trained in, and using and adapting their own local versions of the http://ambit.tiddlyspace.com space (see http://tiddlymanuals.tiddlyspace.com for more details) and that adds up to a lot of workers who really like what this does... and to an extent rely on it to guide their practice and document their own innovation... Second, *get clearer about a few core things that you think people can do with TiddlySpace* - what distinguishes it from other places in the web? Third* ask non-programmers what they think/want/like.*.. - What got me interested (as a non-techie) in tiddlywiki first was the ease with which I found I could write a fairly complex website that used links and tags to organise pages of information; it was the *non-linear* style of writing that fired me up. - Then I liked the sense that it could function as a *self-contained document*, that had edges - ie that its wiki-ness was not a kind of come and graffiti on my wall free-for-all, but there could be some ownership of the document as a whole. - Then, with the advent of tiddlySpace, it was the* inclusion* idea that seemed intrinsically beautiful, this is what allows my tiddlymanuals to have multiple layers of ownership, so that locally-derived improvements/developments in local versions (that include our AMBIT core) can gradually be drawn down into the core to be shared more widely. This allows some hierarchical editorial control, but without crushing the opportunity to make multiple zany newer versions of/improvements on our first shot at writing a way of working with seriously complex vulnerable youth - it is very close to what Jean Lave and Etienne Wenger speak of as a Community of Practice (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_of_practice) I am using TS in quite a specific way, but it seems to me that other bodies of work could be presented and developed in similar ways (and they probably are - I don't spend enough time looking at the ways other people are using TS)... *Conference?:* This leads me to suggest that one way forward would be to think about that old fashioned idea of getting people together to share how they are using TS... I am not so interested in the technical development (though am in awe of you who do it!) but I would like to hear narratives of* how other people are using their spaces *and the various things that * this-being-TS* (rather than some other blogging space) allows them to do this. I suppose I would suggest a small *conference* - get some people together who can talk about how they are using TS - why they are using TS and not something else out there. I find keeping up with the Google discussion groups quite hard (I really don't have a lot of spare time on my hands and the volume of conversation is daunting) so listening to edited highlights of people explaining their work would be a lot easier. Invite You tube videos (one of my poor attempts is here: http://ambit.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BVideo%20tour%20of%20the%20AMBIT%20manual%5D%5D) *Featured Spaces: *I have looked at the featured Spaces (http://featured.tiddlyspace.com/#%5B%5BRecently%20Featured%5D%5D) but often get a bit lost in their CONTENT, without working out quite how they are using the FUNCTIONALITY of TS to make their spaces do what they want them to do. Its is helpful to have someone explain the WHY and the HOW of what they are doing with their site. I think you could look hard at the Featured Spaces space, and revamp it: - a short questionnaire to people who want their spaces featured - the admission fee for being featured is that you have to flesh out user-friendly explanations - - Better still, video explanations that would show not just the content, but also explain the generalisability of of how you are using TS... - Then you'd need to group/tag all the featured spaces in ways that would help interested enquirers home in on* different functional applications*, so they could zoom in on stuff that is doing stuff similar to what they want to do... - at the moment is is an overwhelming list and primarily focused on the amazingly rich array of CONTENT in spaces, rather than on how the developers of these spaces are using TS. Result is that I don't know where to start (too long to start at the beginning of the list!) If I was going to make a suggestion to bring in non-techie users who want to use TS to do something unrelated to the development of TS, it would all be stuff about the interface -
[tw] Re: Announcement: TiddlyWiki 2.7.0 Beta 2 includes fixes for local file import
Hi Eric Happy that things are progressing on this front. Using FF 17.0 (portable) under Vista I have been able to import tiddlers from a local TW in the same directoryand from www.tiddlytools.com However using ExternalTiddlersPlugin...trying to import a simple txt file from my server does not do it No message, and no created tiddler!!! Thanks Skye Em sexta-feira, 2 de novembro de 2012 05h46min05s UTC-2, Eric Shulman escreveu: Greetings All! I am EXTREMELY pleased to announce the posting of TiddlyWiki 2.7.0 Beta 2, which can be downloaded by right-clicking the following link and choosing save link as... from the popop menu: http://www.TiddlyWiki.com/beta The reason I am so pleased is that this beta update includes fixes for backstageimport that I've just written (and tested) that appear to successfully work around the latest file I/O security barriers imposed by FireFox v15+ as well some related security changes that affected Chrome, Safari, and Opera. The backstageimport browse handling has been updated so that when you select a local file for import, a properly-formed file:// URI is automatically filled in (in the enter a URL text input). However, as before, the selected file must still be in the *same folder* as the current document for it to be read in. This is a restriction imposed by almost all browsers (FF, Chrome, Safari, Opera, etc.)... *except* for... surprisingly... InternetExplorer, which *does* permit access to files outside the current folder (even a file on networked drive works in IE)!! Note: if you *do* try to select a file outside the current folder, the result displayed in the file control text area (next to the browse button) will be the path/file you selected, but the path/file actually used (and displayed in the enter a URL text area) will be the *current* folder, combined with the *filename.ext* of the selected file. The bigger fix is that... after selecting the file... when you press the OPEN button... the import process now detects when local filesystem I/O is needed and no longer tries (and fails) to use ajax I/O to read in the file... so that spurious not CORS enabled error message does not appear... and the process actually retrieves tiddlers and let's you proceed with the import without further issues. HOORAY.. YIPPEE YAY! I have tested on my local system using IE, FF15 (with TiddlyFox installed), and Chrome. Of course, every system setup is a little different, so it's still very important for everyone to download this latest build from the above link... and test it with your own OS/ browser configuration, with as many use-cases as you can think of... and then report back here with the results, either positive or negative. If, after field testing by the community, this fix proves to be as effective and stable as I think it is, then I will quickly move TW2.7.0 from beta to official release status... probably by the end of next week. Have a great weekend! enjoy, -e Eric Shulman TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios HELP ME TO HELP YOU - MAKE A CONTRIBUTION TO MY TIP JAR... http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Donations Professional TiddlyWiki Consulting Services... Analysis, Design, and Custom Solutions: http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#Contact -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/3AqnaUybxqUJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] Re: Cross-domain woes!!!
Hi Again...still trying to sort this out - I read in another thread, that since I am trying to read from a local file...I shouldn´t be having cross-domain issues. so Im the online TW I have the code script var out=; var xmlHttp = null; xmlHttp = new XMLHttpRequest(); var discFile=/AAA/alunoParticipation.txt; xmlHttp.open( GET,discFile, false); xmlHttp.send( null ); var returnText =xmlHttp.responseText; /script it works but when I put the same code, but with an external url..like this... script var out=; var xmlHttp = null; xmlHttp = new XMLHttpRequest(); var discFile=http://my domain/AAA/alunoParticipation.txt; xmlHttp.open( GET,discFile, false); xmlHttp.send( null ); var returnText =xmlHttp.responseText; /script I get the message - [Exception... Failure nsresult: 0x80004005 ( NS_ERROR_FAILURE) location: JS frame :: file:///X:/Documents/Dropbox/beta.htm :: _out :: line 9681 data: no] Anyone have ideas whats happening...whay cant I read from a local file??? Thanks in Advance Skye Em quinta-feira, 22 de novembro de 2012 10h09min28s UTC-2, skye riquelme escreveu: Hi All I have a eLearning platform running fairly well directly online, based on UploadPlugin and the use of some php scripts to store online data in simple txt files Now I need to consider students who do not have continual online access (still quite a reality in Brasil) and who need to study using my platform in offline (USB) mode. My thinking is that when a student is connected, to download the server-side txt files to the USB (probably svae them in localStorage as well) to store offline additions in another localStorage and to re-integrate this new data when the student re-connects. My problem is downloading the server-side txt files to a local TW - seems I am hitting cross-domain problems. Online I use a code like - script var out=; var xmlHttp = null; xmlHttp = new XMLHttpRequest(); var discFile=/someTextFile.txt; xmlHttp.open( GET,discFile, false); xmlHttp.send( null ); var returnText =xmlHttp.responseText; var lines=returnText.split(#\n); to get the data from the txt filebut using this from the offline TW does not work.the data is not passed to the offline TW !!! How to get around this? How to get the txt data from the server to the offline TW??? Thanks in Advance Skye -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/jJQ7WEqqH_QJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
[tw] growth-confusion
Hello guys, I am confused about the use of the different TW spin-offs. I am organizing a large international benefit event and during the preparation phase, I have been using tiddlywiki as a tool to structure my ideas, collect all the information (background-info, lists of all kinds, contact-info (with *TaggedTemplateTweak*),...) and write a descriptive document about the different aspects of the project. (I have been using TW for 2 years now, on *Firefox *(most often on *Prism*) in combination with *Dropbox *and on *andtidwiki *for my android phone - the portable and off-line functionality is important to me) Now I have reached the point where the concept is mature, I need to start sharing the information with other people: the volunteers that help in implementing the project, and later-on maybe partners and sponsors. There are close to 700 tiddlers in this wiki, with lots of links/transclusions and many also with automated contents (FET-lists and such) As I understand Tiddlywiki is intended as a personal document and it was never really suited for collaboration with different people at the same time. So I think I will have to move away and towards spaces or tiddlyweb or ... I don't know; I am confused. (I have experimented with the spaces concept, but it seems all the tiddlers can be accessed? Can I reuse my TW layout in spaces? (I use a modified color scheme with the left and right sidebars removed and a small topmenu, conform to and suitable for andtidwiki) So I want to share my tiddlers; some of them can be publicly available (visible, not editable), others should only be visible to certain people. These people would be grouped in different user profiles. I estimate there could be up to 20 people to modify tiddlers. (with only a few changes per day; the tool mainly being used as a reference tool) And for example sponsors could see more tiddlers than the general public, but neither should be able to make changes. Overall, the content/structure would be mainly managed by just one or two people, with small contributions (only text/markup, no coding or such) from the other users (f.e. change contact information or add a journal report) The user group will not be very large; but It is quite diverse so I would still need a good and flexible user-management. What would you recommend as the best way to go? * some plugin for TW and share it on dropbox ? ** TW5 ? * move the content to spaces or tiddlyweb? How does user management function here? ** create my own server? * maybe do I need to move to mediawiki or some of the other platforms with a stronger user management !? (I would not like this option! But if needed, could you recommend any?) Saving TW in the browser seems to be a neverending concern. Does Spaces experience similar problems? On the other hand, could I still (how?) access a spaces implementation offline? Thanks in advance for any advice or helpful comments. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups TiddlyWiki group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/noe3RFPdLQ0J. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.