[tw] TW 2.71 bug: text corrupted by new internationalization

2013-03-25 Thread Rich
 

version 2.71
Firefox 19
TiddlyFox plugin
many other plugins (http://way.net/FiddlyWiki)

replicate:
1. update large TW from 2.70 to 2.71 from backstage

expected behavior:
update with improved international character support

actual behavior
1. International characters in tiddlers changed (for example, Korean 
Characters changed to unrelated Chinese characters)
2. arbitrary corruption of text, replacing some but not all punctuation, 
quotes and adjacent characters, and other characters to random 
international (Chinese?) characters.
3. new entries work fine with typed in international chars, and pasting 
from 2.70 backup into 2.71 works fine, keeping international characters.

workaround
downgrade to 2.70 via recent backup (thank you auto-backup and dropbox), 
spend an hour going through all tiddlers updated since 2.71 to restore any 
purposely changed content to tiddlers to downgraded TW from 2.71 TW.
 

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[tw] Re: TW 2.71 bug: text corrupted by new internationalization

2013-03-25 Thread Eric Shulman
 version 2.71
 Firefox 19
 TiddlyFox plugin
 many other plugins (http://way.net/FiddlyWiki)

 replicate:
 1. update large TW from 2.70 to 2.71 from backstage

The only thing that was changed in the TWCore from 270 to 271 was the
version of jQuery.  This was done because the previous jQuery code
contained an improperly encoded character.  However, this should have
NO effect on file I/O handling within TW.

What version of TiddlyFox are you using?  There were some updates done
to address some encoding issues.  Perhaps you are still using an older
revision?  The most recent version is here:
   https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/TiddlyFox/raw/master/tiddlyfox.xpi

enjoy,
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[tw] Re: how to add a newJournal in the ToolbarCommands ?

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi julien23,

Please let us know, if you are able and want to follow the steps suggested 
by either PMario or Yakov. If so, please open a new thread in the 
TiddlyWikiDev group for any further development issues ...and, once it all 
works, provide a final solution here.

~

In general, defining custom toolbar commands unfortunately is more 
complicated than it needs to be.
I think, it would be way easier if toolbar commands (or other content) 
could be pulled from plain tiddlers, e.g.

ViewToolbar: +editTiddler  SomeTiddlerContainingOneOrMoreButtons  
closeTiddler

So, instead of creating a new command in Javascript using the core methods 
for each and every purpose, I suggest to implement the above so as to 
easily allow commands to be read from a plain tiddler, possibly with %title% or 
$1 being replaced with the current tiddlers title in about the same way $1is 
replaced with the first parameter following 
with: in the tiddler macro.

For me, this should be a core feature whereas the basic logic is: *If 
there is no such command under config.commands but a tiddler by the name, 
render that instead*.

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: How to make a list/table of newest tiddlers of a given set of tags?

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Arc,

No need for plugins! The easiest way would actually be to use the timeline 
macro...
http://tiddlywiki.org/#timeline

|!Foo|h
|timeline maxlength:5 filter:[tag[Foo]]|

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Security in Saving TiddlyWiki

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi everyone,

It seems to me that failing plugins would benefit from updated 
documentation, e.g. some section in the PluginInfo tiddler that reads...

@@color:red;''Important:'' This plugin may no longer work in recent 
browsers due to file access restrictions. For details see 
http://tiddlywiki.org#Troubleshooting@@

...or something like that and then a page similar to the FAQ page, 
http://tiddlywiki.org#Troubleshooting listing such topics, whereas the 
inability to save TiddlyWiki probably is the #1 issue, best answered with 
some kind of a compatibility matrix for browsers vs. core / plugins and 
dedicated links to individual solutions, e.g. *TiddlyFox* or *
TiddlySaver.jar*.

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: How to stop TW Main Menu moving with the content of the TW area

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Hans,

I would not promote this, because it's really not a good design choice — 
it's not intuitive and has usability problems.

Anyhow, here's what you could add to your StyleSheet...

.header{
position: fixed;
width: 100%;
top: 0;
}

#mainMenu {
position: fixed;
padding-top: 0;
}

#displayArea{
margin: 140px 1em 0 330px;
}

Also, I would also remove the Getting Started link... it seems to serve no 
purpose as well as the toolbar when viewed over http.

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: how to add a newJournal in the ToolbarCommands ?

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Beer
While we're at the topic of the toolbar, I think it deserves a new slice 
for readOnly mode which is one bit to the puzzle of creating some sort of 
TiddlySite.

Cheers, Tobias,

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[tw] Re: Strangeness=Different things at different locations ???

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Beer


 But the backstage does not show - is there another way to make it show, 
 please ??


I guess you need to either permanently disable readOnly over http or toggle 
readOnly mode manally each time using:
TiddlyTools.com/#ToggleReadOnly http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleReadOnly

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: How to make a list/table of newest tiddlers of a given set of tags?

2013-03-25 Thread Arc Acorn
I actually very much like the ForEachTiddler method since it lets me make 
each item into it's own table cell.
Which seems to be good news for me as it would appear that a plugin I love 
using a lot ExcludeTimelinePlugin breaks that function of the timeline 
macro.

The plugin doesn't seem to have any author information for me to link you 
to so... 

--ExcludeTimelinePlugin--

// // Excludes any tiddlers from timeline that have been tagged with 
''excludeTimeline''// // Excludes any tiddlers from timeline that have been 
tagged with ''excludeTimeline''
/*{{{*/
config.macros.timeline.handler = function(place,macroName,params)
{
var field = params[0] ? params[0] : modified;
var tiddlers = store.reverseLookup(tags,excludeTimeline,false,field);
var lastDay = ;
var last = params[1] ? 
tiddlers.length-Math.min(tiddlers.length,parseInt(params[1])) : 0;
for(var t=tiddlers.length-1; t=last; t--)
{
var tiddler = tiddlers[t];
var theDay = tiddler[field].convertToLocalMMDDHHMM().substr(0,8);
if(theDay != lastDay)
{
var theDateList = document.createElement(ul);
place.appendChild(theDateList);
createTiddlyElement(theDateList,li,null,listTitle,tiddler[field].formatString(this.dateFormat));
lastDay = theDay;
}
var theDateListItem = createTiddlyElement(theDateList,li,null,listLink);
theDateListItem.appendChild(createTiddlyLink(place,tiddler.title,true));
}
}
/*}}}*/

 End---

On Monday, March 25, 2013 1:22:38 AM UTC-7, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Hi Arc,

 No need for plugins! The easiest way would actually be to use the timeline 
 macro...
 http://tiddlywiki.org/#timeline

 |!Foo|h
 |timeline maxlength:5 filter:[tag[Foo]]|

 Cheers, Tobias.


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[tw] Re: how to add a newJournal in the ToolbarCommands ?

2013-03-25 Thread Eric Shulman
 In general, defining custom toolbar commands unfortunately is more
 complicated than it needs to be.
 I think, it would be way easier if toolbar commands (or other content)
 could be pulled from plain tiddlers, e.g.

 ViewToolbar: +editTiddler  SomeTiddlerContainingOneOrMoreButtons 
 closeTiddler

see http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#CoreTweaks

specifically #608/609/610 which includes the toolbar transclusion
feature you describe

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[tw] Re: Strangeness=Different things at different locations ???

2013-03-25 Thread TonG
*Hi **smallhagrid,

You can try the bookmarklet EnableEdit by Saq Imtiaz*.
His site is not online anymore, but the info can be found at 
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8286741/lewcid.ord.htm

Cheers,

Ton


On Monday, March 25, 2013 10:26:57 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:


 But the backstage does not show - is there another way to make it show, 
 please ??


 I guess you need to either permanently disable readOnly over http or toggle 
 readOnly mode manally each time using:
 TiddlyTools.com/#ToggleReadOnly http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleReadOnly

 Cheers, Tobias.


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[tw] WikiWords in TW5

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy, great job on the screencast [1] for TiddlyWiki5!

Someone recently asked in the context of LinkifyPlugin [1] whether 
WikiWords could be optional or even turned off by default. I tend to agree, 
that it is good to have explicit control over links without being required 
to escape using a tilde, e.g. ~WikiWord.

Is that under consideration for TW5?

For backwards compatibility that would mean when WikiWords are deactivated, 
to still remove any tilde from what would match a ~WikiWord, in order to 
only display the text only as WikiWord. From a first impression that is a 
rather simple modification to the link formatter.

Cheers, Tobias.

[1] https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/tiddlywiki/wj0DwKB1adM
[2] http://linkify.tiddlyspot.com

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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki5 introductory screencast

2013-03-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Mar 23, 2013, at 8:05 PM, Mark Krieg wrote:

 I think that you've done an outstanding job on this video! You systematically 
 step the user through the features and functions of TW5. Highlighting the 
 save function in different browsers was brilliant!

Agreed. 

While I'm at it, can I run TiddlyWiki5 on an iPad?

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[tw] Re: WikiWords in TW5

2013-03-25 Thread PMario
On 25 Mrz., 14:57, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote:
 Furthermore, there are some special system macros that the $link widget
 looks for that then modify it's behaviour. In particular, if the macro
 tw-wikilinks expands to the string no then no wikilinks will be
 rendered.

 This can be done on an individual tiddler basis by inserting this line at
 the top of the tiddler:

 \define tw-wikilinks() no
Is it possible to have definitions like this within the ViewTemplate?

-m

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Re: [tw] TW5 for exploration... @Jeremy

2013-03-25 Thread Eric Weir

On Mar 11, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Yes, I'd like to support Google Drive, and Microsoft's LiveDrive. I've done 
 Dropbox first mainly because it's what I use.


SugarSync? I find it much more convenient than Dropbox.

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[tw] Re: Events Notebook

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi passingby,

Congratulation, I like the simplicity. There's some inspiration here.

~

I really like the simplicity of...

   - What
   - Where
   - When
   - Why
   - Who
   - How

This stuff is quite reusable.

~

Some suggestions...

A) I would suggest to perhaps use a namespace for the field names, e.g. *
event.what*, *event.where*, etc... or *e.what*, *e.where* ...that keeps 
them together when more fields are involved.

B) I would also suggest to use *event.circle* and *event.type* instead of 
tags, this makes it more explicit... although listing available circles and 
types to chose from and finding related stuff may then need some additional 
plugin, like GetPlugin http://get.tiddlyspace.com/ [3].

C) As for the UI, I think a vertical flow would make *[[Timeline 
Selected]]*easier to use, with 
*select all* being the first checkbox at the top.

~

I think I will extend FiltrPlugin http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#Filtr[1] 
to add something like your 
*[[Timeline Slected]]*, whereas you can have one set of *primary tags* to 
filter (your circles) and then *secondary tags* (your types) to refine on 
these.

~

Also, looking at Show All By Tags makes me want to give TidsByTags 
http://tidsbytags.tiddlyspot.com[2] a little code-review / update.

~

All in all, congratulation,

Tobias.


[1] http://tobibeer.tiddlyspace.com/#Filtr
[2] http://tidsbytags.tiddlyspot.com
[3] http://get.tiddlyspace.com

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Re: [tw] WikiWords in TW5

2013-03-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for the details...

I take it there are new ways then (aka \rules) to activate/deactivate 
features for/within tiddlers.

How to go about activating/deactivating them globally?

Are there still formatters and a wikifier? If not, how is wikification / 
rendering of wiki markup being handled?

Cheers, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Strangeness=Different things at different locations ???

2013-03-25 Thread TonG
Hi Tobias,

Nice to have it at an official place ;)

Cheers,

Ton

On Monday, March 25, 2013 2:53:03 PM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Hi Ton  Smallhagrid,

 A few weeks ago I took the time to list all bookmarklets known to me at...
 http://tiddlywiki.org/#Bookmarklets

 Among that you also find *EnableEdit*.

 Cheers, Tobias.


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Re: [tw] Re: WikiWords in TW5

2013-03-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston

 Is it possible to have definitions like this within the ViewTemplate?


Yes, they can be in any tiddler. In TW5, all templates are wikitext,
including PageTemplate and ViewTemplate. Wikitext can now include HTML tags.

Best wishes

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Re: [tw] WikiWords in TW5

2013-03-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Tobias

 I take it there are new ways then (aka \rules) to activate/deactivate
 features for/within tiddlers.

 How to go about activating/deactivating them globally?


To enable or disable a parser rule globally you'd enable or disable the
module that implements it. There's currently no way to disable a module
from within the core other than overwriting it in your tiddlers with the
same title, but there will be some kind of mechanism to do it. It would be
a bit of a last resort; ideally everyone would be using the same core so as
to maximise compatibility.

Are there still formatters and a wikifier? If not, how is wikification /
 rendering of wiki markup being handled?


There are more moving parts than before, but they are a bit simpler.

There is a wiki text parser that uses individual parser rules to convert
wikitext into a parse tree. A parse tree is a plain javascript structure
representing the logical structure of the wikitext. Rendering constructs a
separate render tree that references the parse tree. The rendering tree can
be rendered directly to the DOM or straight to text. In the former case
there are mechanisms to support dynamic updates of the DOM representation
as the underlying render tree changes.

The two most useful types of plugins involved are parser rules and widgets.

Parser rules can be pretty simple. For example, the pretty link rule:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/parsers/wikiparser/rules/prettylink.js

Widgets are roughly equivalent to macros in classic TW: blobs of JavaScript
that implement magic, dynamic content like lists and transclusions. The
video embed widget is a simple example:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/blob/master/core/modules/widgets/video.js

Best wishes

Jeremy


Cheers, Tobias.



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[tw] Re: Security in Saving TiddlyWiki

2013-03-25 Thread TonyM
Good Idea,

It would also be good to have a matrix of Browser / TiddlyWiki / 
TiddlySaver and TiddlyFox combinations.

Great work
Tony

On Monday, March 25, 2013 7:33:05 PM UTC+11, Tobias Beer wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 It seems to me that failing plugins would benefit from updated 
 documentation, e.g. some section in the PluginInfo tiddler that reads...

 @@color:red;''Important:'' This plugin may no longer work in recent 
 browsers due to file access restrictions. For details see 
 http://tiddlywiki.org#Troubleshooting@@

 ...or something like that and then a page similar to the FAQ page, 
 http://tiddlywiki.org#Troubleshooting listing such topics, whereas the 
 inability to save TiddlyWiki probably is the #1 issue, best answered with 
 some kind of a compatibility matrix for browsers vs. core / plugins and 
 dedicated links to individual solutions, e.g. *TiddlyFox* or *
 TiddlySaver.jar*.

 Cheers, Tobias.


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Re: [tw] TW5 for exploration... @Jeremy

2013-03-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Eric

After quick glance at SugarSync's developer documentation (
https://www.sugarsync.com/developer) their API looks very reasonable. I'm
trying to abstract the specifics of serverside APIs sufficiently that
adaptors can be fairly simple, and I'd hope that we'd end up with a bunch
of options for users.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Eric Weir eew...@bellsouth.net wrote:


 On Mar 11, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Yes, I'd like to support Google Drive, and Microsoft's LiveDrive. I've
 done Dropbox first mainly because it's what I use.


 SugarSync? I find it much more convenient than Dropbox.


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Re: [tw] Re: Strangeness=Different things at different locations ???

2013-03-25 Thread mark
Hello Tobias and thanks.
  But the backstage does not show - is there another way to make it show, 
  please ??

Setting is correct, I looked just now: 
 I guess you need to either permanently disable readOnly over http or 
 toggle readOnly mode manally each time using: TiddlyTools.com/#ToggleReadOnly 
 http://tiddlytools.com/#ToggleReadOnly

Tobias, will this make a button or something show someplace at all times for me 
??

Thanks.

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Re: [tw] Re: Strangeness=Different things at different locations ???

2013-03-25 Thread mark
Hi Ton, and thanks !!

I got that, and...:
 You can try the bookmarklet EnableEdit by Saq Imtiaz*.
 His site is not online anymore, but the info can be found at 
 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8286741/lewcid.ord.htm

I'll try it soon.

It is a shame that site is not fully archived as the rest of it's links look 
very, very interesting; I even tried the Wayback Machine, but it seems to have 
a bellyache today and won't work for me.

Thanks !!!

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[tw] Is there a way to modify 'list all' like this ??

2013-03-25 Thread smallhagrid
Howdy Folks.
I have a 'list all' tiddler that works fine, and it is quite long !!!

Looking at it I wonder 2 things and will greatly appreciate any pointers, 
please:

1.
Is there an easy way to make it into several (as in 3 or 4) columns ??

2.
Is there also any way for it to be listed from newest to oldest, thereby 
helping me with my tired old memory of what I've forgotten to do ??

Thanks.

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