[tw] Create Shadow tiddlers in a edition

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello,

 I'm creating a edition of one of my main wikis. I by the includewikis 
option read-only mode. I like this, is very cool but I have a question: I 
want to override some shadow tiddlers but keep them as shadow within the 
edition. So, let's say I have a plugin,  and I want a special edition of 
that plugin for my edition  and this means a couple of the plugin 
tiddlers with a different value. How can I accomplish this?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [tw] Create Shadow tiddlers in a edition

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

It sounds like you'd need a plugin to contain those shadow tiddlers. But
you shouldn't be thinking in terms of a special edition of that plugin;
if it has different content then it needs to be labelled as a different
plugin.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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wrote:

 Hello,

  I'm creating a edition of one of my main wikis. I by the includewikis
 option read-only mode. I like this, is very cool but I have a question: I
 want to override some shadow tiddlers but keep them as shadow within the
 edition. So, let's say I have a plugin,  and I want a special edition of
 that plugin for my edition  and this means a couple of the plugin
 tiddlers with a different value. How can I accomplish this?

 Thanks in advance.

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Re: [tw] Create Shadow tiddlers in a edition

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Jeremy,




 if it has different content then it needs to be labelled as a different 
 plugin.


It is exactly the same plugin, but with a different value for a single 
tiddler. It does not feel like a different plugin to me. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-25 Thread Sylvain Naudin
Hi Mario,

Do you know how I could define a widht parameter inside macro ? (and if we 
can ^^')

for exemple width=256

Thanks,
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-25 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mardi 25 novembre 2014 11:11:33 UTC+1, Sylvain Naudin a écrit :

 Hi Mario,

 Do you know how I could define a widht parameter inside macro ? (and if we 
 can ^^')

 for exemple width=256

 Thanks,
 Sylvain


I guess something like this : [img $width$[$tooltip$|$path$$image$]] and 
define in macrocall the variable..

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[tw] [TW5] A Hierarchy Without Category Tags Flexible Filters?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Reading a previous thread...

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/XxLT8zJqHYM/Pl90y8Evn7AJ

I have created a tutorial for a little more generic solution, providing a 
*catlist* macro with which you can specify a *subfilter* to be used to 
gather the *category* listing...

http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#A%20Hierarchy%20Without%20Category%20Tags

*Further Improvements*

It wouldn't be me if there wasn't something even more generic I would like 
to achieve. So, here it goes:

Not only do I want to be able to constrain the list to a given filter, 
which works fine.
I also want to be able to define a custom category field to be used rather 
than a hard-coded *category *field.

So, within my catlist macro list widget calls, instead of just using these 
filters...

[field:category{!!title}limit[1]]
[field:category{!!title}nsort[order]]

...I tried but failed using something like...

[field:$field${!!title}limit[1]]
[field:$field${!!title}nsort[order]]

...in other words: pass the category field to the macro and then use both 
the field and the title transclusion in a filter expression.

Any pointers?

Best wishes, Tobias.


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Re: [tw] Create Shadow tiddlers in a edition

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer


 if it has different content then it needs to be labelled as a different 
 plugin.


 It is exactly the same plugin, but with a different value for a single 
 tiddler. It does not feel like a different plugin to me. 


I fear the most sensible approach is to provide an override for whatever 
different plugin settings you need in your edition. Otherwise, perhaps the 
plugin itself needs to provide a means to customize what you're overriding.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer


 Do you know how I could define a widht parameter inside macro ? (and if we 
 can ^^')

 for exemple width=256


The ximg http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#External%20Image%20Path macro now 
also allows you to specify a width...

External Image Path @ tb5 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#External%20Image%20Path

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer


 Do you know how I could define a widht parameter inside macro ?  

  

I guess something like this : [img $width$[$tooltip$|$path$$image$]] and 
 define in macrocall the variable..


[img width=$width$ class=$class$ [$tooltip$|$path$$image$]] 

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
As I have added little icons to my top-menu links, I made a little tutorial 
on how I did that...

Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Auto-Generated%20TopBar%20With%20Icons

Now, here's the trouble:

In my wiki, I currently gather all menu links via *[tag[GettingStarted]]*... 
and this could be fine, but I'm an explorer and I'd like for things to be 
more generic and simpler to customize as I don't want to modify 
*[[$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags]]* to hide the visibly undesired 
*GettingStarted* tag.

So, what I'd like to do is gather the menu-links via *[field:menu[main]]*.

Now, while that actually works there is a wee little glitch:

The ordering no longer respects the list given in *GettingStarted*, as it 
is no longer referenced in my filter!

Now, what I'd ideally like to do is to tell the list macro where to get the 
ordering from, whereas the list macro would perhaps evaluate it as a text 
reference, take its value, fetch the list-field order for the tiddler being 
referenced, e.g.

name $:/ui/TopLeftBar/order

GettingStarted

Any way to do that?

If not, I'm inclined to open a ticket at GitHub and see if a solution can 
be wrought.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Create Shadow tiddlers in a edition

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Tobias,

Your recomendation worked like a charm. I created a different plugin with 
the same name but with /config at the end. Then I put inside it the tiddler 
that I want to override but with a different text and it works as expected.
Then if I disable the config plugin the tiddler in the original plugin get 
its original value.

Awesome.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Different Journals in a single TiddlyWiki

2014-11-25 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi Gerald,

Go to the Control Panel, and in Title of new journal tiddlers add 
$(currentTiddler)$ before or after the date format. Et voilà!

Regards,

Alberto

Le mardi 25 novembre 2014 00:29:04 UTC+1, Gerald Strickland a écrit :

 So I finally upgraded to the latest TiddlyWiki (5.1.4) from version 5.1.1 
 which was a *very* smooth upgrade and noticed the Journal feature. I 
 started entering journal entries over the weekend and have enjoyed using 
 the create a new journal tiddly tagged with this one feature.

 Perhaps it was never intended to be used the way I envisioned using it... 
 but for whatever reason I found myself thinking I could create an entirely 
 different journal based on whatever tiddler I happen to be on.

 For example, if I created a tiddler about my son, and began creating 
 journal entries using the create a new journal tiddly tagged with this 
 one feature then I would this awesome journal/diary about my son that 
 are dated accordingly. Then later I create a tiddler about my daughter... I 
 also want to keep a journal/diary about her, so I start entering entries 
 using the create a new journal tiddly tagged with this one feature 
 all is well until I find myself entering journal entries for both my son 
 and daughter on the same day.

 If I created a journal entry about my son in the morning, then later that 
 same day attempted to enter a journal entry about my daughter using the 
 create a new journal tiddly tagged with this one feature, then TiddlyWiki 
 open my entry on my son which I entered earlier. I can't separate the two.

 It would be nice to be able to 'separate' journal entries according to 
 topic/tags within a single TiddlyWiki giving it the ability to carry 
 multiple journals. I know there's always the option of setting up another 
 tiddlywiki file - but I like the idea of having everything in one file.

 I understand that there may be various problems trying to achieve 
 Different Journals in a single TiddlyWiki, for example like tiddlers 
 being titled the same (it can't be done), I always wondered if it would be 
 possible to have same titles co-exist by using different tags or different 
 tag combinations to differentiate them - just toying with ideas here.

 Any thoughts?

 p.s. I'm really enjoying the latest TiddlyWiki version, thanks to all 
 involved.


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[tw] [TW5] NewJournalHere trick !

2014-11-25 Thread Alberto Molina
Hi,

The default behaviour of the NewJournalHere button is to create a new 
tiddler with the date format specified in the Control Panel and add a tag 
to the current tiddler.

What if you want a different journal tiddlers (same day) for different 
topics? For example, one journal for each of my teaching courses. Or one 
for each of my projects. See this thread [1].

The trick to do that is very simple: Go to the Control Panel, and in Title 
of new journal tiddlers add $(currentTiddler)$ before or after the date 
format. Et voilà!

Regards,

Alberto

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Re: [tw] [TW5] NewJournalHere trick !

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Alberto

That is a very cunning trick, well done! I've added it to the docs:


On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Alberto Molina alberton...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 The default behaviour of the NewJournalHere button is to create a new
 tiddler with the date format specified in the Control Panel and add a tag
 to the current tiddler.

 What if you want a different journal tiddlers (same day) for different
 topics? For example, one journal for each of my teaching courses. Or one
 for each of my projects. See this thread [1].

 The trick to do that is very simple: Go to the Control Panel, and in
 Title of new journal tiddlers add $(currentTiddler)$ before or after the
 date format. Et voilà!

 Regards,

 Alberto

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Re: [tw] [TW5] NewJournalHere trick !

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Apologies, that got sent too early...

That is a very cunning trick, well done! I've added it to the docs:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/b26e2955d448b8443d1b9ccd640a0a7713bbf40a

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi Alberto

 That is a very cunning trick, well done! I've added it to the docs:


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Alberto Molina alberton...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 The default behaviour of the NewJournalHere button is to create a new
 tiddler with the date format specified in the Control Panel and add a tag
 to the current tiddler.

 What if you want a different journal tiddlers (same day) for different
 topics? For example, one journal for each of my teaching courses. Or one
 for each of my projects. See this thread [1].

 The trick to do that is very simple: Go to the Control Panel, and in
 Title of new journal tiddlers add $(currentTiddler)$ before or after the
 date format. Et voilà!

 Regards,

 Alberto

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-25 Thread Sylvain Naudin


Le mardi 25 novembre 2014 12:10:22 UTC+1, Tobias Beer a écrit :

[img width=$width$ class=$class$ [$tooltip$|$path$$image$]] 


Exactly,* thanks Tobias* :)

Since I already use Mario code from my first question, I've modify to that :

\define imageFullPath(image, tooltip, path, width, class)
[img width=$width$ class=$class$ [$tooltip$|$path$$image$]]
\end


\define iLink( image, tooltip:image, pathConfig:imagePath, width, class)
$macrocall $name=imageFullPath path={{$pathConfig$}} image=$image$ 
tooltip=$tooltip$ class=$class$ width=$width$/
\end


Best wishes,
Sylvain

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Re: [tw] [TW5] NewJournalHere trick !

2014-11-25 Thread Alex Hough
Indeed... super cunning and useful. Easy to implement as well


Alex

On 25 November 2014 at 12:38, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com wrote:

 Apologies, that got sent too early...

 That is a very cunning trick, well done! I've added it to the docs:


 https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/b26e2955d448b8443d1b9ccd640a0a7713bbf40a

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Alberto

 That is a very cunning trick, well done! I've added it to the docs:


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:22 PM, Alberto Molina alberton...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,

 The default behaviour of the NewJournalHere button is to create a new
 tiddler with the date format specified in the Control Panel and add a tag
 to the current tiddler.

 What if you want a different journal tiddlers (same day) for different
 topics? For example, one journal for each of my teaching courses. Or one
 for each of my projects. See this thread [1].

 The trick to do that is very simple: Go to the Control Panel, and in
 Title of new journal tiddlers add $(currentTiddler)$ before or after the
 date format. Et voilà!

 Regards,

 Alberto

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[tw] [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out

2014-11-25 Thread Felix Küppers

When you start searching it will show you your searched tiddlers and their 
neighbours:

http://wkpr.de/hosting/tmp/tw5/taskgraph/

try searching for bread or tgm

WARNING CODE IS NOT DONE YET. THIS IS JUST A SWEET DEMO :)

Hope you like it
Felix

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[tw] [TW5] access subtiddler fields

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello,

As part of a plugin that I'm developing I need access of the fields of the 
subtiddlers of a plugin like tiddler. I tried with this:

$list filter=[title[TEST]plugintiddlers[]sort[title]]
trth colspan=2$view field=title//th/tr$list 
filter=[is[current]fields[]] -[[text]] variable=field
trthfield/thtd$view field=field//td/tr
/$list
/$list
/table


But it transcludes the fields of the tiddlers that are on the store. How 
can I access the sub-tiddlers fields instead?

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[tw] TW5 the list of search results (i.e., matching tiddlers) appears to be truncated.

2014-11-25 Thread steve
Hi

I've noticed a possible problem with TW 5.1.4 concerning search results in 
the right sidebar. The problem is that the list of tiddlers returned by the 
search appears to be truncated.

I downloaded a fresh version of the full wiki and created a tiddler called 
x. I did a search for x and got 331 matches. The list of matches ended with 
the tiddler called SecondTwo and the Tiddler called x did not show up in 
the list of matches. Is there a limit to the number of search results that 
can be displayed? I'm using Firefox 31.2.0.

Steve Wharton

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Tobias

It looks like the basic problem you're trying to solve is to be able to
hide certain tags on certain tiddlers. In this case you're using fields
like tags, and want fields to be able to use the same ordering
functionality as tags.

You could try something like this:

[list[GettingStarted]field:menu[main]]

That returns all the tiddlers listed in the list field of getting started
that have their menu field set to main.

 Now, what I'd ideally like to do is to tell the list macro where to get
the ordering from

Do you mean the list-links macro? One of the parameters is filter;
you can construct any ordering you need.

Best wishes

Jeremy




On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 11:25 AM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:

 As I have added little icons to my top-menu links, I made a little
 tutorial on how I did that...

 Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons
 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Auto-Generated%20TopBar%20With%20Icons

 Now, here's the trouble:

 In my wiki, I currently gather all menu links via *[tag[GettingStarted]]*...
 and this could be fine, but I'm an explorer and I'd like for things to be
 more generic and simpler to customize as I don't want to modify
 *[[$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/tags]]* to hide the visibly undesired
 *GettingStarted* tag.

 So, what I'd like to do is gather the menu-links via *[field:menu[main]]*.

 Now, while that actually works there is a wee little glitch:

 The ordering no longer respects the list given in *GettingStarted*, as it
 is no longer referenced in my filter!

 Now, what I'd ideally like to do is to tell the list macro where to get
 the ordering from, whereas the list macro would perhaps evaluate it as a
 text reference, take its value, fetch the list-field order for the tiddler 
 being
 referenced, e.g.

 name $:/ui/TopLeftBar/order

 GettingStarted

 Any way to do that?

 If not, I'm inclined to open a ticket at GitHub and see if a solution can
 be wrought.

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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Re: [tw] TW5 the list of search results (i.e., matching tiddlers) appears to be truncated.

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Steve

The search results in the sidebar and in advanced search are currently
truncated at 250 for performance.

Why do you need more than 250 search results in the sidebar?

If you want to perform a search without truncation then you can use the
filter tab of advanced search and a filter string like
[search[the]sort[title]].

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:59 PM, steve swwhar...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hi

 I've noticed a possible problem with TW 5.1.4 concerning search results in
 the right sidebar. The problem is that the list of tiddlers returned by the
 search appears to be truncated.

 I downloaded a fresh version of the full wiki and created a tiddler called
 x. I did a search for x and got 331 matches. The list of matches ended with
 the tiddler called SecondTwo and the Tiddler called x did not show up in
 the list of matches. Is there a limit to the number of search results that
 can be displayed? I'm using Firefox 31.2.0.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] access subtiddler fields

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

Try searching for subtiddler on tiddlywiki.com:

http://tiddlywiki.com/#ViewWidget:ViewWidget%20TranscludeWidget

Best wishes

Jeremy


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 Hello,

 As part of a plugin that I'm developing I need access of the fields of the
 subtiddlers of a plugin like tiddler. I tried with this:

 $list filter=[title[TEST]plugintiddlers[]sort[title]]
 trth colspan=2$view field=title//th/tr$list
 filter=[is[current]fields[]] -[[text]] variable=field
 trthfield/thtd$view field=field//td/tr
 /$list
 /$list
 /table


 But it transcludes the fields of the tiddlers that are on the store. How
 can I access the sub-tiddlers fields instead?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
This is awesome!! Very useful, powerful... and a lot of full.

How can apply this to a single view? It will make it one of the best tools 
to visualize data and see relations between them.

BTW did you see my pull request? I'm not asking you to merge it, is just to 
know if you consider it.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] A Hierarchy Without Category Tags Flexible Filters?

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Tobias


 ...I tried but failed using something like...

 [field:$field${!!title}limit[1]]
 [field:$field${!!title}nsort[order]]

 ...in other words: pass the category field to the macro and then use both
 the field and the title transclusion in a filter expression.


That looks OK to me.

Best wishes

Jeremy.




 Any pointers?

 Best wishes, Tobias.


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Re: [tw] [TW5] New widget to accumulate values inside of list loop (alpha, or something)

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Mark

Well done for getting this to work.

I'm afraid that the approach that it is using isn't really viable. The main
reason is that widgets should not modify the tiddler store as part of their
rendering or refresh processing. (I see people trying to do this a lot, and
so I may add some debug code that raises a warning when this happens).

A problem with the approach is that it is reliant on the order of execution
of the various instances of the AddWidget. Most of the time, the ordering
will be as you expect, but the refresh mechanism of TiddlyWiki is able to
regenerate any subtree of the widget tree at any time. So you will not
necessarily see the ordering you expect.

You are also storing state information in an instance of a widget. Again
that will only work in some situations; the refresh mechanism needs to be
able to destroy and re-instantiate your widget on demand.

If you can explain a little more about your use case I may be able to
advise a robust approach.

Best wishes

Jeremy






On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:49 AM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
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 This widget allows you to sum values within a list.Well, at least it did
 for me. From time to time.

 *DISCLAIMER*: It is experimental so be sure to back up your Tiddlywiki.
 Use at your own risk!

 It requires a little bit more of the user. The user needs to provide three
 instances of the widget:


1. One before the LIST using action=init and a value to initialize
counting (e.g. value=0)


1. One inside the LIST using action=sum and a value to be
accumulated (e.g. value={{!!payment}} )


1. One outside the LIST using action=show or save. If values are
to be saved then a tiddler and a field need to be assigned (e.g.
tiddler=Totals field=totals) Using show with a tiddler and a field
will both show the result and save it to the specified tiddler/field.

  Each instance must also share an id that is unique throughout the
 TiddlyWiki. The id is set with addid=YourUniqueId.

 Other *anomalies*. After running, the Save icon will indicate that you
 need to save the TiddlyWiki. You must Save if you want the results of
 summation to be saved. If the tiddler that you are saving to is not open
 when the widget is run, then you probably will not be able to open it until
 the tiddler with the widget is closed. The workaround is to open the
 tiddler that saves the results before running the tiddler with the
 summation widget.

 *Meta*: There was an easier way that I could have written this that would
 have just summed all the fields based on the current filter, but I wanted
 the flexibility of sending any value to the ADD widget.

 *Meta meta*: This took way too long to do! And I only tested on the
 version I happened to be running because I need to get back to other things.

 *Future*: It would be nice if it formatted the output. I guess it depends
 on how well received it is.


 *Example of usage*:
 $*add* action=*init* value=0 addid=test1 /

 $list filter=[tag[Addme]]
 {{!!title}} {{!!payment}}br/
 $*add* addid=test1 action=*sum* value={{!!payment}}
 /$list
 Total was: $*add* addid=test1 action=*show* tiddler=Totals
 field=totals /

 *CODE:*


 /*\
 title: $:/core/modules/widgets/add.js
 type: application/javascript
 module-type: widget

 Accumulate values into specified variable.

 \*/
 (function(){

 /*jslint node: true, browser: true */
 /*global $tw: false */
 use strict;

 var Widget = require($:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js).widget;

 var AddWidget = function(parseTreeNode,options) {

 this.initialise(parseTreeNode,options);
 };

 /*
 Inherit from the base widget class
 */
 AddWidget.prototype = new Widget();

 /*
 Render this widget into the DOM when necessary
 */

 AddWidget.prototype.render = function(parent,nextSibling) {
 this.parentDomNode = parent;
 this.siblingDomNode = nextSibling;
 this.computeAttributes();
 this.execute();
 // Only need to render if action is PUT
 if(this.addAction==show) {
 var textNode =
 this.document.createTextNode(this.wiki.masAdder[this.addId]);
 parent.insertBefore(textNode,nextSibling);
 this.domNodes.push(textNode);
 this.putval(this.wiki.masAdder[this.addId]) ;
 }
 if(this.addAction==save) this.putval(this.wiki.masAdder[this.addId])
 ;
 };


 /*
 Get essential attributes
 */
 AddWidget.prototype.getKeyAttribs = function() {
this.addAction = this.getAttribute(action,oops).toLowerCase() ; //
 can be init,sum or put
 this.addField = this.getAttribute(field,text);
 this.setValue = this.getAttribute(value);
 this.addTitle = this.getAttribute(tiddler,);
 this.addId = this.getAttribute(addid,DEFAULT).toLowerCase() ;
 } ;

 /*
 Compute the internal state of the widget
 */
 AddWidget.prototype.execute = function() {
 // Get our parameters
 this.getKeyAttribs() ;

 //Set up global variable holder masAdder if never used
 if (typeof this.wiki.masAdder != 'undefined') {
 // 

Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Stephan's new journal macro - suppress creator

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Tobias

Are core components (still) overwritten upon upgrade?


I'm not sure what you mean. What core components are you talking about?

The issue about upgrading is that if you modify a shadow tiddler and then
perform an upgrade that happens to bring in a new value for that shadow
tiddler, then your modified version will not include the new value. I think
that that situation is the same in TWC.

Best wishes

Jeremy.




 If not, the procedure now amounts to...

1. open *$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/subtitle*
2. apply changes above
3. save

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Re: [tw] [TW5] access subtiddler fields

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Jeremy,

I did already, but the transclude subtiddler only works with the text or 
tittle.

I I do something like this:

$list filter=[title[TEST]plugintiddlers[]sort[title]] 
variable=subtiddler
$transclude tiddler=TEST subtiddler=subtiddler field=uploaded/
/$list


I get that field. But, how can I iterate over all the fields?


El martes, 25 de noviembre de 2014 15:06:30 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 Try searching for subtiddler on tiddlywiki.com:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/#ViewWidget:ViewWidget%20TranscludeWidget

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hello,

 As part of a plugin that I'm developing I need access of the fields of 
 the subtiddlers of a plugin like tiddler. I tried with this:

 $list filter=[title[TEST]plugintiddlers[]sort[title]]
 trth colspan=2$view field=title//th/tr$list 
 filter=[is[current]fields[]] -[[text]] variable=field
 trthfield/thtd$view field=field//td/tr
 /$list
 /$list
 /table


 But it transcludes the fields of the tiddlers that are on the store. How 
 can I access the sub-tiddlers fields instead?

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Re: [tw] [TW5] access subtiddler fields

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

I get that field. But, how can I iterate over all the fields?


So is the problem that you want to be able to iterate over all the fields
of a subtiddler?

That isn't currently possible, I'm afraid.

Best wishes

Jeremy




 El martes, 25 de noviembre de 2014 15:06:30 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 Try searching for subtiddler on tiddlywiki.com:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/#ViewWidget:ViewWidget%20TranscludeWidget

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello,

 As part of a plugin that I'm developing I need access of the fields of
 the subtiddlers of a plugin like tiddler. I tried with this:

 $list filter=[title[TEST]plugintiddlers[]sort[title]]
 trth colspan=2$view field=title//th/tr$list
 filter=[is[current]fields[]] -[[text]] variable=field
 trthfield/thtd$view field=field//td/tr
 /$list
 /$list
 /table


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Re: [tw] [TW5] access subtiddler fields

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez

El martes, 25 de noviembre de 2014 15:51:15 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 I get that field. But, how can I iterate over all the fields?


 So is the problem that you want to be able to iterate over all the fields 
 of a subtiddler?


Yes, that was the problem. 
I think this is needed if, for example, you want to implement revisions as 
plugin-like tiddlers. 

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Re: [tw] [TW5] access subtiddler fields

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

I think this is needed if, for example, you want to implement revisions as
 plugin-like tiddlers.


I agree that it would be useful. We'd need to add an operator like
subtiddlerfields.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out

2014-11-25 Thread Felix Küppers
Hola amigo

This is awesome!! Very useful, powerful... and a lot of full.


Yay!
 


 How can apply this to a single view? It will make it one of the best tools 
 to visualize data and see relations between them.


Good idea, I am working on it! ;) 
 

 BTW did you see my pull request? I'm not asking you to merge it, is just 
 to know if you consider it.


Ah no I didn't see it. Please write @felixhayashi so I get informed next 
time.

Regards
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-25 Thread Felix Küppers
The feature to export tiddlers is such a relieve! I am happy it exists.

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Re: [tw] TW5 the list of search results (i.e., matching tiddlers) appears to be truncated.

2014-11-25 Thread steve
Jeremy

Actually I don't really want to see more than 250 search results.
The problem was that tiddlers that show up towards the bottom of the 
matched list (i.e., typically tiddlers whose first letter is in the range 
s-z) don't appear in the first 250 results.

As per your suggestion, I can avoid the problem with a more focused search.

Thanks
Steve Wharton



On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 9:05:10 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Steve

 The search results in the sidebar and in advanced search are currently 
 truncated at 250 for performance.

 Why do you need more than 250 search results in the sidebar?

 If you want to perform a search without truncation then you can use the 
 filter tab of advanced search and a filter string like 
 [search[the]sort[title]].

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


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 wrote:

 Hi

 I've noticed a possible problem with TW 5.1.4 concerning search results 
 in the right sidebar. The problem is that the list of tiddlers returned by 
 the search appears to be truncated.

 I downloaded a fresh version of the full wiki and created a tiddler 
 called x. I did a search for x and got 331 matches. The list of matches 
 ended with the tiddler called SecondTwo and the Tiddler called x did not 
 show up in the list of matches. Is there a limit to the number of search 
 results that can be displayed? I'm using Firefox 31.2.0.

 Steve Wharton

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[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out

2014-11-25 Thread Ton Gerner
Hi Felix,

Really, really nice.

Just curious about the following:

After entering a search string the graph of search results displays. When I 
switch back and forth between tabs List and Graph, I get different 
graphs. The graphs as such are not really different, but the nodes are 
placed differently every time.

Cheers,

Ton


On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:36:21 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

 Hola amigo

 This is awesome!! Very useful, powerful... and a lot of full.


 Yay!
  


 How can apply this to a single view? It will make it one of the best 
 tools to visualize data and see relations between them.


 Good idea, I am working on it! ;) 
  

 BTW did you see my pull request? I'm not asking you to merge it, is just 
 to know if you consider it.


 Ah no I didn't see it. Please write @felixhayashi so I get informed next 
 time.

 Regards
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[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out

2014-11-25 Thread Felix Küppers
Thanks Ton,

yes that's right. Positions are not stored in this dynamic search scenario. 
The point is storing positions would create a mess when you change your 
search term and the node position is not the best anymore.

Also at the moment I do a full graph refresh on every keypress.

Felix

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[tw] Re: TiddlyWiki Hangout #70 on Tuesday 25th November at 4pm GMT

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
TiddlyWiki Hangout #70 is about to start.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Felix,

Here you have an example to show you that I'm taking seriously your plugin. 
Also you can notice there are several nodes with the same name. It's not 
actually the same tiddlers, they are different tiddlers with same label. 
That is because I implemented the label  functionality. You can see how I 
did on the pull request I mentioned.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Rf3nm-p7rY0/VHSsdBRXtNI/LnE/ifh5rNWqmvk/s1600/example_tree.PNG






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[tw] [TW5] Popups inside tables

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello al

Is possible to display a popup from inside a table? I have something like 
this: 

table
$list filter=[some filter]
trth colspan=2$view field=title/  $transclude 
tiddler=$:/core/ui/Buttons/more-page-actions mode=inline//th/tr
[...blablabbla table body with fields]
/$list
/table

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Top Bars

2014-11-25 Thread andrew.j.harrison84
I obviously am doing something wrong. Sometimes I can toggle my clock and 
sometimes I can't without the Internal JavaScript Error: Uncaught TypeError: 
Cannot set property 'innerHTML' of null. Anyone. Anyone?



Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G TouchTobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:I 
still have 3 anomalies...

Add to the list that you cannot toggle your clock without causing an  Internal 
Javascript Error .

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Different Journals in a single TiddlyWiki

2014-11-25 Thread Gerald Strickland
Even better! It's great to know there are several ways to achieve this - 
the flexibility of TW5 amazes me.

Thanks to all for the suggestions.


On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 4:19:56 AM UTC-8, Alberto Molina wrote:

 Hi Gerald,

 Go to the Control Panel, and in Title of new journal tiddlers add 
 $(currentTiddler)$ before or after the date format. Et voilà!

 Regards,

 Alberto

 Le mardi 25 novembre 2014 00:29:04 UTC+1, Gerald Strickland a écrit :

 So I finally upgraded to the latest TiddlyWiki (5.1.4) from version 5.1.1 
 which was a *very* smooth upgrade and noticed the Journal feature. I 
 started entering journal entries over the weekend and have enjoyed using 
 the create a new journal tiddly tagged with this one feature.

 Perhaps it was never intended to be used the way I envisioned using it... 
 but for whatever reason I found myself thinking I could create an entirely 
 different journal based on whatever tiddler I happen to be on.

 For example, if I created a tiddler about my son, and began creating 
 journal entries using the create a new journal tiddly tagged with this 
 one feature then I would this awesome journal/diary about my son that 
 are dated accordingly. Then later I create a tiddler about my daughter... I 
 also want to keep a journal/diary about her, so I start entering entries 
 using the create a new journal tiddly tagged with this one feature 
 all is well until I find myself entering journal entries for both my son 
 and daughter on the same day.

 If I created a journal entry about my son in the morning, then later that 
 same day attempted to enter a journal entry about my daughter using the 
 create a new journal tiddly tagged with this one feature, then TiddlyWiki 
 open my entry on my son which I entered earlier. I can't separate the two.

 It would be nice to be able to 'separate' journal entries according to 
 topic/tags within a single TiddlyWiki giving it the ability to carry 
 multiple journals. I know there's always the option of setting up another 
 tiddlywiki file - but I like the idea of having everything in one file.

 I understand that there may be various problems trying to achieve 
 Different Journals in a single TiddlyWiki, for example like tiddlers 
 being titled the same (it can't be done), I always wondered if it would be 
 possible to have same titles co-exist by using different tags or different 
 tag combinations to differentiate them - just toying with ideas here.

 Any thoughts?

 p.s. I'm really enjoying the latest TiddlyWiki version, thanks to all 
 involved.



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[tw] [TW5] How to change the default content type for journal entries?

2014-11-25 Thread Gerald Strickland
I chose to do this before for tiddlers using the methods described here: TW5 
Default type 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/vKMkeyezxpg/discussion

How would I go about changing the default content type for journal entries?

Thanks!

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[tw] Re: Create Shadow tiddlers in a edition

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
  I by the includewikis option read-only mode.

This sounds very interesting, if only I would understand what you are 
actually referring to / are talking about.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Top Bars

2014-11-25 Thread Birthe C
Hi Andrew
I noticed that if your sidebar/tools is open, the clock there i active, but 
the clock stops in your topmenu. If I try to toggle topmenu button of then, 
I see no javascript error. But if I close sidebar tools topmenu clock is 
active and trying to toggle the button of then sur enogu gives a javascript 
error.


Birthe

Den tirsdag den 25. november 2014 17.52.58 UTC+1 skrev Andrew:

 I obviously am doing something wrong. Sometimes I can toggle my clock and 
 sometimes I can't without the Internal JavaScript Error: Uncaught 
 TypeError: Cannot set property 'innerHTML' of null. Anyone. Anyone?



 Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Touch

 Tobias Beer beert...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 I still have 3 anomalies...


 Add to the list that you cannot toggle your clock without causing an  
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[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out

2014-11-25 Thread Felix Küppers


 Here you have an example to show you that I'm taking seriously your 
 plugin. 


Nice thanks for sharing, danielo

I will look at your other pull requests to once I have the time.

Its great that you paste screenshots, it gives me sense how you use it.

Felix

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Popups inside tables

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

That example seems like it works OK for me in Chrome and Firefox. What
problem are you seeing?

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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 Hello al

 Is possible to display a popup from inside a table? I have something like
 this:

 table
 $list filter=[some filter]
 trth colspan=2$view field=title/  $transclude
 tiddler=$:/core/ui/Buttons/more-page-actions mode=inline//th/tr
 [...blablabbla table body with fields]
 /$list
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Re: [tw] [TW5] How to change the default content type for journal entries?

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Gerald

The default content type should probably be configurable. In the meantime,
the best way would be to create an alternative new journal button that
incorporates the special behaviour that you need.

Create a new tiddler called something like $:/MyNewJournalButton and the
following content:

\define journalButton()
$button tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/NewJournal/Hint}}
aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/NewJournal/Caption}}
class=tv-config-toolbar-class
$action-sendmessage $message=tm-new-tiddler title=now
$(journalTitleTemplate)$ tags=$(journalTags)$/
$list filter=[tv-config-toolbar-iconsprefix[yes]] type=image/png
{{$:/core/images/new-journal-button}}
/$list
$list filter=[tv-config-toolbar-textprefix[yes]]
span class=tc-btn-text$text
text={{$:/language/Buttons/NewJournal/Caption}}//span
/$list
/$button
\end
$set name=journalTitleTemplate value={{$:/config/NewJournal/Title}}
$set name=journalTags value={{$:/config/NewJournal/Tags}}
journalButton
/$set/$set

It's the same as the shadow tiddler $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-journal with
the addition of type=image/png on the action-sendmessage widget.

Best wishes

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 I chose to do this before for tiddlers using the methods described here: TW5
 Default type
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/vKMkeyezxpg/discussion

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Set img path variable ?

2014-11-25 Thread PMario
Nice, that it works :)
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Re: [tw] [TW5] Popups inside tables

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Jeremy,

For some reason it is not working on my work laptop. The only difference is 
the SO (windows on work) and the TW version (5.1.5 on work). The current 
problem is that the popup is displayed in the top of the tiddler instead of 
appearing under the button.

El martes, 25 de noviembre de 2014 20:12:52 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 That example seems like it works OK for me in Chrome and Firefox. What 
 problem are you seeing?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


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 javascript: wrote:

 Hello al

 Is possible to display a popup from inside a table? I have something like 
 this: 

 table
 $list filter=[some filter]
 trth colspan=2$view field=title/  $transclude 
 tiddler=$:/core/ui/Buttons/more-page-actions mode=inline//th/tr
 [...blablabbla table body with fields]
 /$list
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[tw] What first attracted you to Tiddlywiki?

2014-11-25 Thread 'Stephen Kimmel' via TiddlyWiki
I am especially interested in the New User experience and at the moment 
the specific question is what attracts people to Tiddlywiki in the first 
place. We were all new users once and while we may not be representative of 
the typical new user... I figure anyone who has even found this group is a 
fairly advanced computer user in general... our answers may offer some 
useful insights.

So...

1. What were you looking for when you first found Tiddlywiki?

In my case, I was looking for a wiki that was simple, didn't require a 
specialized set-up and could fit on a USB flash drive.

2. Was there anything about the program, the eco-system, whatever, that 
frustrated you nearly to the point of giving up on it?

In my case, the documentation at the time was almost more than I could 
handle. Even figuring out how to Underline and Bold text seemed to require 
wading through a pile of documentation that seemed to be written by geeks 
for geeks.

3. What made you stick with the program?

Ultimately for me it was the fact there was ongoing support and 
development. The competitive products seemed on the verge of dying or were 
dead products already.

I would like to see answers to my three questions from several folks and I 
would also like to hear from whoever it was who used Tiddlywiki in a 
classroom setting. How did it go with the students?


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[tw] Re: Create Shadow tiddlers in a edition

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello,

While you are working on node you can include other wikis inside the wiki 
you are running. It is commonly used in the while translating. The person 
who is made the translation gets its own wiki and imports TW5.com as an 
external wiki in read only mode. That way they can override tiddlers and 
those tiddlers get saved to the folder of your current wiki instead of the 
folder of the wiki you are importing.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Popups inside tables

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

What browser are you using on your work laptop? Do the popups in the tag
manager work on that machine?

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello Jeremy,

 For some reason it is not working on my work laptop. The only difference
 is the SO (windows on work) and the TW version (5.1.5 on work). The current
 problem is that the popup is displayed in the top of the tiddler instead of
 appearing under the button.

 El martes, 25 de noviembre de 2014 20:12:52 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 That example seems like it works OK for me in Chrome and Firefox. What
 problem are you seeing?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello al

 Is possible to display a popup from inside a table? I have something
 like this:

 table
 $list filter=[some filter]
 trth colspan=2$view field=title/  $transclude
 tiddler=$:/core/ui/Buttons/more-page-actions mode=inline//th/tr
 [...blablabbla table body with fields]
 /$list
 /table

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[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out

2014-11-25 Thread PMario
Hi Felix,
Very well done! I like it.
-mario

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Popups inside tables

2014-11-25 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Jeremy,

I'm using Chrome. I can check with Firefox also. Everything is working as
expected except that.

El mar 25/11/2014, 20:57, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 What browser are you using on your work laptop? Do the popups in the tag
 manager work on that machine?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Jeremy,

 For some reason it is not working on my work laptop. The only difference
 is the SO (windows on work) and the TW version (5.1.5 on work). The current
 problem is that the popup is displayed in the top of the tiddler instead of
 appearing under the button.

 El martes, 25 de noviembre de 2014 20:12:52 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 That example seems like it works OK for me in Chrome and Firefox. What
 problem are you seeing?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdan...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello al

 Is possible to display a popup from inside a table? I have something
 like this:

 table
 $list filter=[some filter]
 trth colspan=2$view field=title/  $transclude
 tiddler=$:/core/ui/Buttons/more-page-actions mode=inline/
 /th/tr
 [...blablabbla table body with fields]
 /$list
 /table

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Popups inside tables

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

So, does this summarise the situation:

* TW5.1.4 + your example code works on Chrome on Linux
* TW5.1.5 + your example code doesn't work on Chrome on Windows

I think there's too many variables here - can you create a single example
based on 5.1.5 that we can test on all platforms?

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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 Hello Jeremy,

 I'm using Chrome. I can check with Firefox also. Everything is working as
 expected except that.

 El mar 25/11/2014, 20:57, Jeremy Ruston jeremy.rus...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 What browser are you using on your work laptop? Do the popups in the tag
 manager work on that machine?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy

 On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello Jeremy,

 For some reason it is not working on my work laptop. The only difference
 is the SO (windows on work) and the TW version (5.1.5 on work). The current
 problem is that the popup is displayed in the top of the tiddler instead of
 appearing under the button.

 El martes, 25 de noviembre de 2014 20:12:52 UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston
 escribió:

 Hi Danielo

 That example seems like it works OK for me in Chrome and Firefox. What
 problem are you seeing?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


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 Hello al

 Is possible to display a popup from inside a table? I have something
 like this:

 table
 $list filter=[some filter]
 trth colspan=2$view field=title/  $transclude
 tiddler=$:/core/ui/Buttons/more-page-actions mode=inline/
 /th/tr
 [...blablabbla table body with fields]
 /$list
 /table

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,
 

 It looks like the basic problem you're trying to solve is to be able to 
 hide certain tags on certain tiddlers. In this case you're using fields 
 like tags, and want fields to be able to use the same ordering 
 functionality as tags.


Yes, that was the plan. More than just hide, I really want to avoid 
functional flag-tags as much as possible, i.e. those only used to create a 
menu.

You could try something like this...

 [list[GettingStarted]field:menu[main]]


Perfect! Actually, now that I moved the list to the menu tiddler, it's all 
in one spot.
I can even skip the *field:**menu[main]* part, although it's good to 
remember I can chain things like that.

However, for some reason, just using...

[list[]]

...does not work at the menu tiddler 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fui%2FTopLeftBar. But then...

[list[$:/ui/TopLeftBar]]

...does. Why could that be?

Do you mean the list-links macro?
 javascript:


Typo ...widget. Thanks for your help. Simple and elegant solutions are my 
favorites. :)

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Tobias

 [list[]]

When no operand is provided the list filter operator defaults to
retrieving the list field of the current tiddler.

Best wishes

Jeremy


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 Hi Jeremy,


 It looks like the basic problem you're trying to solve is to be able to
 hide certain tags on certain tiddlers. In this case you're using fields
 like tags, and want fields to be able to use the same ordering
 functionality as tags.


 Yes, that was the plan. More than just hide, I really want to avoid
 functional flag-tags as much as possible, i.e. those only used to create
 a menu.

 You could try something like this...

 [list[GettingStarted]field:menu[main]]


 Perfect! Actually, now that I moved the list to the menu tiddler, it's all
 in one spot.
 I can even skip the *field:**menu[main]* part, although it's good to
 remember I can chain things like that.

 However, for some reason, just using...

 [list[]]

 ...does not work at the menu tiddler
 http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fui%2FTopLeftBar. But then...

 [list[$:/ui/TopLeftBar]]

 ...does. Why could that be?

 Do you mean the list-links macro?


 Typo ...widget. Thanks for your help. Simple and elegant solutions are my
 favorites. :)

 Best wishes, Tobias.




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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,
 

 When no operand is provided the list filter operator defaults to 
 retrieving the list field of the current tiddler.


Yes, so I thought. And that's the problem. When I I remove the operand, it 
does not iterate the list of the menu tiddler any longer ...and I have no 
idea why that is.

So, I created a tiddler like this...

name: $:/foo
list: foo bar baz

$list filter=[list[]]/

This works as expected on TiddlyWiki.com and on /prerelease but the one 
place it doesn't work is a tb5 updated to the latest /prerelease 10 minutes 
ago.

One thing I tried was to uninstall matchfilter from EucaliJ as it extends 
on filters, but that didn't have any effect, so I put it back up.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,
 

 the one place it doesn't work is a tb5


Actually, things are actually weirder than I realized.
It DOES work with just *[list[]]* but at that point the output is only 
rendered within the menu tiddler but no longer into the top-left-bar?!?

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Tobias

 It DOES work with just [list[]] but at that point the output is only
rendered within the menu tiddler but no longer into the top-left-bar?!?

Sorry I'm not following enough to replicate the problem. What are the steps
I need to perform to see the problem?

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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 Hi Jeremy,


 the one place it doesn't work is a tb5


 Actually, things are actually weirder than I realized.
 It DOES work with just *[list[]]* but at that point the output is only
 rendered within the menu tiddler but no longer into the top-left-bar?!?

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[tw] Re: Create Shadow tiddlers in a edition

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Danielo,
 

 While you are working on node you can include other wikis inside the wiki 
 you are running.


I really want to explore how that works.
 

 That way they can override tiddlers and those tiddlers get saved to the 
 folder of your current wiki instead of the folder of the wiki you are 
 importing.


I see, simplifies the workflow and setting it up this way allows you to use 
certain features while not having them saved back into your language 
edition folder.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 Social

2014-11-25 Thread RichShumaker
Thanks Daniel for posting I have used and loved the TW work you have done, 
thanks for posting and for creating with TW.

From your post

 Anyway the lessons there for winning new users are maybe:

 - find a clear, real-world use case (or more than one) and show how TW 
 satisfies that use
 - approach blogs and review sites and ask for coverage, or even better 
 write a story yourself and ask blog/review sites to publish it or adapt it
 - go to the trouble to do pretty screenshots, and be MUCH less technical 
 than you want to be

 And to return to the topic: Even having a share-a-tiddler feature isn't a 
 usecase, it's just a feature.  You'd have to show how it makes activity X 
 awesome / possible / fun / useful.


Brilliant suggestions and help.

   1. So having tutorials based on usage cases would be very helpful for 
   new and existing users on TW5.
  1. Instead of just having generic TW5 tutorials, So TiddlyWiki 5 
  Recipes, Notebook, GTD, ect.  Since TW can be used for anything it can be 
  overwhelming and exciting as the possibilities are limitless.
  2. Possibly the Level 1 Learning that I discuss in another thread 
  stays the same and then around Level 2 or Level 3 you get specific.
 1. Everyone using TW needs to create a Tiddler as an example and 
 understanding formatting basics.
  2. Getting our different usage cases into bloggers hands that way 
   they can review them.  So we send GTD TW5 to GTD people.
   3. Create Tutorials with good screenshots and less technobabble to be 
   more inviting to new users
   4. I think easy to follow videos help everyone.  When TW started posting 
   videos was more complicated.  Now it is much easier and should be easier 
   for all to do if you want too.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,
 

 Sorry I'm not following enough to replicate the problem. What are the 
 steps I need to perform to see the problem?


   1. *open* http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fui%2FTopLeftBar
   2. *remove* *$:/ui/TopLeftBar* from the filter...
   3. *result*: within the tiddler the menu is displayed, but no longer in 
   the top-bar

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[tw] Re: Spreading TW to an unsuspecting world! MWOA-HA-HAAA!

2014-11-25 Thread Mat
Killer app?

In the minutes before todays hangout - great hangout by the way - Eric 
brought up some interesting gizmo that, if I got it right, hides the 
surrounding browser from being seen around the web content. I think he 
might demo it at next hangout. BTW, wasn't there a software along these 
lines called Prism or WebRunner or something some years ago?... Anyway, 
here's an application for that, that might just be a viral killer (...ouch, 
that sounds nasty!)

I sometimes see people attach business cards to their emails. E.g a simple 
logo or occasionally something that I'm guessing is a contact file intended 
to import to cellphone (never tried it). And in Outlook you can appearently 
add a full html signature 
http://www.madesimplemedia.co.uk/news/adding-a-nice-html-signature-to-outlook-2010-and-2013/
.

If a TW could be made into a teeny-weenified to a business card / signature 
on steroids I imagine it could be popular. It is often in the interest of 
people to spread their business cards as much as they can... so TW would 
ride on that.

...you click the signature and it animates into (ok, opens a slider) to 
show a video greeting from the individual. He or she points to some links 
in the video - CV, interests, fb page etc - that you can click. 

...Powered by TiddlyWiki

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Re: [tw] [TW5] A Hierarchy Without Category Tags Flexible Filters?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,
 

 [field:$field${!!title}limit[1]]

  

that looks OK to me


Ah, sorry... it does, and so it all works nicely now.
I was referncing an old field-name in the macrocall. *facepalm* 

For anyone interested, I have renamed the name tiddler...

http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#A%20Hierarchy%20Without%20Tags

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-11-25 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Try putting the following at the top of that tiddler:

Current Tiddler: $text text=currentTiddler/

You'll see that the current tiddler is blank when the tiddler is displayed
as the topbar. That's the problem: you're requesting the list field of the
current tiddler, and the current tiddler is blank when you're in the top
bar.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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 Hi Jeremy,


 Sorry I'm not following enough to replicate the problem. What are the
 steps I need to perform to see the problem?


1. *open* http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fui%2FTopLeftBar
2. *remove* *$:/ui/TopLeftBar* from the filter...
3. *result*: within the tiddler the menu is displayed, but no longer
in the top-bar

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[tw] Re: TW5 Social

2014-11-25 Thread Mat


 That is the end of the pitch.

Let me know what you think about the pitch.


I like it - and as a former business angel and startup analyst in a team of 
angels, I've read an seen many pitches. This would raise my interest and 
I'd want more info.

I particularly like that you've identified how Social media is very 
SnapShot. Very good observation, especially for an area (if you can call 
social media an area) where people have been staring at these one trick 
ponys for 10-20 years now. Considering that social media is as hot as it 
gets on planet earth, your observation implies great opportunities, IMO. 

:-)

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[tw] Re: TW5 Social

2014-11-25 Thread RichShumaker
I split my post as they were two separate ideas.  Thanks again Daniel for 
your insight on growing TW5.

The other post was about growing the TW audience.
This post is about creating what I call a TW5 Social Platform.
Using TW5 as the base you build on it to allow everyone to interconnect 
their TW5's.

I am watching TW Hangout #70 and at about 1:00 @Jeremy Ruston (I tried to 
socially link to him) mentions replacing Google Group with decentralized 
TW5.
That is what I was discussing with TW5 Social.
Everyone has a TW5 hosted wherever they want.
You interlink the TW5 using 'code magic' so that I can copy and comment on 
your Tiddler and you get notified.
Like the [[New Here]] button, you use the (i)nformation button on another 
TW5 Social and it creates a [[Bass Fishing]] on your TW5 Social.
It also creates a link back for the person you took it from that they can 
see.

You then have an Internet Spider pull from all the TW5 to create a list of 
similar data across the world.
So if I tag something [[Bass Fishing]] and [[@Bill From Down the Street]] 
does too then the Spider can pick them up.
This spider trace could be run from TW5 on the internet and creates a list 
of TW5 locally for yourself.
Or lists could be created and hosted by anyone that wanted too.

TW5 Social
Build a platform on TW5 that allows us to interact between each other more 
easily using TW5.
I create, own, and host my TW5 and you do too.
TW5 has built in technology that allows them to cross communicate so you 
putting [[@RichShumaker]] would link to me or allow me to see the mention 
when I log onto my TW5.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] in a macro: achieve if / else

2014-11-25 Thread Mat
Side note: I just stumbled over IFTTT https://ifttt.com/wtf. Figure it 
may be of interest to take a peek at. How relevant, I don't know.

It is a (not new) tool totally based on the formula If this then 
that. I'm guessing this is a piece of cake in TW - but it's interesting 
to note that they've made a full service around this single concept.

:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Stephan's new journal macro - suppress creator

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,

Nevermind, I perhaps remembered that wrong and it was the updates that 
didn't get through.
I thought at some point in a distant past customizations could get lost 
upon upgrade.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Preview of new export button

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Felix,
 

 The feature to export tiddlers is such a relieve! I am happy it exists.


I have the distinct feeling that you're using that for a very interesting 
worklflow that I'd like to know more about if you'd want to share.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] How to change the default content type for journal entries?

2014-11-25 Thread Gerald Strickland
Thanks for the response Jeremy. I tried doing it but it doesn't seem to 
work. When I click on the new button it doesn't use the preset default type.

The default content type should probably be configurable.


I second that. It would be nice to be able to set the default types under 
control panel for New Tiddlers, New Journal Tiddlers and when using the 
Create a new journal tiddly tagged with this one button.

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 Hi Gerald

 The default content type should probably be configurable. In the meantime, 
 the best way would be to create an alternative new journal button that 
 incorporates the special behaviour that you need.

 Create a new tiddler called something like $:/MyNewJournalButton and the 
 following content:

 \define journalButton()
 $button tooltip={{$:/language/Buttons/NewJournal/Hint}} 
 aria-label={{$:/language/Buttons/NewJournal/Caption}} 
 class=tv-config-toolbar-class
 $action-sendmessage $message=tm-new-tiddler title=now 
 $(journalTitleTemplate)$ tags=$(journalTags)$/
 $list filter=[tv-config-toolbar-iconsprefix[yes]] type=image/png
 {{$:/core/images/new-journal-button}}
 /$list
 $list filter=[tv-config-toolbar-textprefix[yes]]
 span class=tc-btn-text$text 
 text={{$:/language/Buttons/NewJournal/Caption}}//span
 /$list
 /$button
 \end
 $set name=journalTitleTemplate value={{$:/config/NewJournal/Title}}
 $set name=journalTags value={{$:/config/NewJournal/Tags}}
 journalButton
 /$set/$set

 It's the same as the shadow tiddler $:/core/ui/Buttons/new-journal with 
 the addition of type=image/png on the action-sendmessage widget.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.



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 I chose to do this before for tiddlers using the methods described here: TW5 
 Default type 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/vKMkeyezxpg/discussion

 How would I go about changing the default content type for journal 
 entries?

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[tw] Re: Not a Manual Post - Still about Learning TW

2014-11-25 Thread RichShumaker
Created a TW5 as a start to a Video on Learning TiddlyWiki 5.
This is a generic Level One TiddlyWiki
http://www.richshumaker.com/tw5/TW-Learning-Level1.htm

Check it out, I designed it as a Follow these Steps to start.
I want it to become a Choose your Own Adventure at some point.

What Other topics should be hit in Level One.
I was thinking formatting.
Thanks for your help.

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[tw] Re: What first attracted you to Tiddlywiki?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Stephen,

I can't speak for others but if I had heard the tagline from the hangout 
today...

Own it like a document, use it like a website.

...I would have been hooked even more than I probably was as is.

1) 

Some 7 or 8 years ago, when I first encountered TiddlyWiki,
perhaps I was looking for a task management solution,
or some alternative to OneNote / EverNote.

Perhaps I was also playing with a simplistic wiki on that htc back then,
can't remember the name, though.

2)

not really, except for the part where I sometimes had so many ideas to put 
my hands on than I could possibly work on

3)

its evolution and the fact that with some know-how I can use it for a lot 
of things other applications can't while being pretty independent

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[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Sweet you say? This is like the candyland. ^^

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] First demo of the graph search is out

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Felix,

Maybe I shouldn't do that, but the fact that I can just click that 
controlpanel button,
enter some tiddlyspot credentials ...and, voila... is just unbelievable!

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: What first attracted you to Tiddlywiki?

2014-11-25 Thread Suzanne McHale
1 - I was looking at various wiki programs, and TW seemed neat and 
self-contained, and didn't need other software (such as a server) to run 
it. Also being open-source is a major factor, and that it is hopefully to 
last the next 25 years at least.
2 - Just trying to figure out how it worked generally - the documentation 
is fragmented and I have to do much Googling to find out various things; 
this forum tends to be a main source. I also don't quite understand how to 
use the Node.js thing.
3 - Don't know if I will stick with it yet; I wish there were a view-only 
mode (the current option just hides the editable parts). The code itself 
doesn't validate (TW.com had 1001 errors when I ran it through the W3C 
validator out of curiosity!) - I'm just picky about such things though.

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Re: [tw] TW5 the list of search results (i.e., matching tiddlers) appears to be truncated.

2014-11-25 Thread steve
A final note:

The SearchBox at http://tesis.tiddlyspot.com/ was just what I was looking 
for. Thanks to Alberto Molina!

Steve Wharton


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jeremy,
 

 Try putting the following at the top of that tiddler:

 Current Tiddler: $text text=currentTiddler/

 You'll see that the current tiddler is blank when the tiddler is displayed 
 as the topbar. That's the problem: you're requesting the list field of the 
 current tiddler, and the current tiddler is blank when you're in the top 
 bar.


That's highy confusing and quite a constraint compared to TWc.

Are you suggesting that the context is non-existing because we're not in 
the story-river? Now, if that's the case, how could the widget that is 
rendering a tiddler outside the story-river into some placeholder possibly 
know what tiddler we're dealing with?

If I look at the *SiteTitle* in TWc, I see a *tiddler=SiteTitle*... Why 
doesn't that exist in tw5 to provide a proper context when there's no 
story-column for a tiddler to reside in? I can see how you would want to 
some simple way to do an equivalent to *story.findContainingTiddler* (TWc), 
rather than just get the tiddler context for some widget, but... if there 
is no story, this context should be set by the widget to whatever the 
context tiddler for it was when rendering. 

Not?

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: What first attracted you to Tiddlywiki?

2014-11-25 Thread David Gifford


 1. What were you looking for when you first found Tiddlywiki?


I was investigating Moodle for our seminary, and a lot of people on Moodle 
were talking about integrating TW classic with Moodle. So out of curiosity 
I checked it out. I remember playing with something called d cubed and 
enjoying it. And I got hooked.


 2. Was there anything about the program, the eco-system, whatever, that 
 frustrated you nearly to the point of giving up on it?


The learning curve. I knew no CSS or JavaScript, but needed a little of 
both to work with customizing colors and layout, and for adapting the 
ForEachTiddlerPlugin and others to my needs. Also, there were so many 
awesome plugins, but I couldn't keep track of them all, and they were all 
over the place. 

3. What made you stick with the program?

Its insane usefulness. And the friendly help I got, and continue to get, 
here at this Google group.

4. In an educational setting with Mexican students on a bachelor's level 
with poor previous education, and little technical knowhow, it didn't work. 
But my resources online in Spanish in TiddlyWiki, now at 
recursos.giffmex.org, have been very well received.





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[tw] Re: Not a Manual Post - Still about Learning TW

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Rich,

I think concise videos can and will show in a much more intuitive way
what a screenshot based walkthrough can never hold a candle to.

Also, try not to use jpg for screenshots = very ugly artefacts.

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Re: [tw] TW5 the list of search results (i.e., matching tiddlers) appears to be truncated.

2014-11-25 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Steve,
 

 The SearchBox at http://tesis.tiddlyspot.com/ was just what I was looking 
 for. Thanks to Alberto Molina!


Actually, besides the fact that I don't like how *tags are hidden* under 
more,
to show the *tags first* in the search results makes total sense.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Not a Manual Post - Still about Learning TW

2014-11-25 Thread David Gifford
Here is the other one I did. More similar to what you are looking for than 
TW5 mall.

http://giffmex.org/TiddlyQuickly.html

Dave

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[tw] Re: What first attracted you to Tiddlywiki?

2014-11-25 Thread Arc Acorn
*1. What were you looking for when you first found Tiddlywiki?*

A Writing tool I could customize to my way of thinking. I'd tried a few 
dozen note and creative writing programs and ultimately they just drove 
me nuts. They where all very static and encouraged users to follow either 
standard methods or the developers desired method. I wanted something that 
was effectually a word processor / Wikipad / enclosed file system that I 
could mold around my own way's of working and thinking. (That didn't 
require me to run a portable WAMP or LAMP just for it.)

(As a side note it's been working great for me for a long while now. It's 
also worth noting that my main wiki is built around it's own customized 
version of FireFox which is heavily extended and modded around extending 
the experience as a replacement for standalone applications, and is overall 
a circuital component to my main use for TWC. )

*2. Was there anything about the program, the eco-system, whatever, that 
frustrated you nearly to the point of giving up on it?*

On the program side learning the strange and literal backwards way to add 
JavaScript libraries nearly drove me batty... Thankfully Eric set me 
straight and I've been pretty happy ever since.

On the eco-system side; It still irritates me greatly that the group is not 
divided properly between TWC and TW5. At the very least it has driven me 
away from using the group regularly, and nearly driven me away from the 
community entirely.

*3. What made you stick with the program?*
An obsession with tinkering, and it's hard to beat how easy and intuitive 
it is to tinker with TWC.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Quoting formatting characters

2014-11-25 Thread Ken
This accomplishes what I wanted. Thanks!

On Monday, November 24, 2014 12:17:17 AM UTC-8, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 You could also escape one of the /s with #47;


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Quoting formatting characters

2014-11-25 Thread Ken
I just started using the new version a few days ago so at this point this 
seems like an advanced solution. I do need to play around with the 
templates though so I understand how they work. Thanks for the suggestion - 
it will give me a good starting point for learning about them.

On Monday, November 24, 2014 12:20:24 AM UTC-8, Stephan Hradek wrote:

 Or create your own nowiki-template:

 title: nowiki
 content: $view field=title/

 Usage: {{//hostname/folder||nowiki}}


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Re: [tw] [TW5] Quoting formatting characters

2014-11-25 Thread Ken
Thanks for the suggestion! However, this renders it in code format which, 
in the context I'm using it, isn't what I want.

On Monday, November 24, 2014 1:25:27 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Ken

 The solution that I use is to wrap the pathname in backticks, which causes 
 it to be displayed as literal monospaced text: `//hostname/folder`

 Would that work for you?

 Best wishes

 Jeremy


 On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Ken kenneth...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 I am trying to include a URL  in the format '//hostname/folder' in a 
 Tiddler. Tiddlywiki sees the '//' as a request to format the text in 
 italics. How do I quote the '//' so they appear as part of the rendered 
 text rather than as formatting characters? 

 In V2, I would use triple double quotes, or the nowiki tag, but neither 
 of these appears to work in V5. The triple backtick quotes the characters, 
 but I really don't want to display the URL in code format.

 Thanks.


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[tw] Tiddlywiki 5: Adding Plugins

2014-11-25 Thread Ross Jacobs
Hi all,

I've been having difficulty adding plugins in version 5. I was able to do 
it in TW classic, but I prefer v5 for the new updated look. 

I've tried all sorts of guides, and from what I understand, I need to give 
the plugin tiddler a title, tag it with systemConfig, and the body of the 
tiddler must contain the concomitant source code. Additionally, I would 
need to redownload this new updated tiddlywiki and relaunch back into my 
browser to save the settings. However, when I look at $:/ControlPanel after 
doing this, I never see any added plugins. Is there something basic I'm 
missing here? Thanks!

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[tw] Re: Tiddlywiki 5: Adding Plugins

2014-11-25 Thread Birthe C
Hi Ross
Importing a plugin is so much easier in TW5. Drag the link to the plugin 
you want to your own TiddlyWiki, drop it, and you will see an import 
tiddler. Import, save your wiki. You have to refresh before being able to 
use the plugin.


Birthe


Den onsdag den 26. november 2014 06.08.54 UTC+1 skrev Ross Jacobs:

 Hi all,

 I've been having difficulty adding plugins in version 5. I was able to do 
 it in TW classic, but I prefer v5 for the new updated look. 

 I've tried all sorts of guides, and from what I understand, I need to give 
 the plugin tiddler a title, tag it with systemConfig, and the body of the 
 tiddler must contain the concomitant source code. Additionally, I would 
 need to redownload this new updated tiddlywiki and relaunch back into my 
 browser to save the settings. However, when I look at $:/ControlPanel after 
 doing this, I never see any added plugins. Is there something basic I'm 
 missing here? Thanks!


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[tw] Re: What first attracted you to Tiddlywiki?

2014-11-25 Thread whatever
Hi!
I was looking for Wikipedia without the server clutter. I do some writing 
and I needed an encyclopedia for that. When I first encountered 
TiddlyWiki, I was totally amazed, but didn't go into details. It wasn't 
until several years later when I was looking for a wiki for an unrelated 
project that I got into details and really dug in. It even got me to learn 
JavaScript.:D That it's light weight, offline and highly customizable was 
also a bonus. I also got my colleague interested and now we're even using 
TW at work.
w

On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 8:52:01 PM UTC+1, Stephen Kimmel wrote:

 I am especially interested in the New User experience and at the moment 
 the specific question is what attracts people to Tiddlywiki in the first 
 place. We were all new users once and while we may not be representative of 
 the typical new user... I figure anyone who has even found this group is a 
 fairly advanced computer user in general... our answers may offer some 
 useful insights.

 So...

 1. What were you looking for when you first found Tiddlywiki?

 In my case, I was looking for a wiki that was simple, didn't require a 
 specialized set-up and could fit on a USB flash drive.

 2. Was there anything about the program, the eco-system, whatever, that 
 frustrated you nearly to the point of giving up on it?

 In my case, the documentation at the time was almost more than I could 
 handle. Even figuring out how to Underline and Bold text seemed to require 
 wading through a pile of documentation that seemed to be written by geeks 
 for geeks.

 3. What made you stick with the program?

 Ultimately for me it was the fact there was ongoing support and 
 development. The competitive products seemed on the verge of dying or were 
 dead products already.

 I would like to see answers to my three questions from several folks and I 
 would also like to hear from whoever it was who used Tiddlywiki in a 
 classroom setting. How did it go with the students?




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