[tw] need clarification on tw-upgrade: twc = tw5

2014-12-05 Thread Dirk Huth
Hi folks, 

I'm sorry if this sounds stupid but maybe someone has the patience to 
enlighten me. I have been an avid end-user(!) of TiddlyWiki, meaning 
although I *did *experiment with plugins (from the web) and extensions and 
nice formatting over time, I am not really into Java Script and working 
under the hood of tw-engine. 

Yesterday I had a look at the TW5 and got a bit carried away, especially 
when I saw that TW5 is now hosted on tiddlyspot as well. 

So I downloaded my tw (a MPTW, v 2.6.1) and used the provided upgrade link 
(http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html) on the download. The upgraded file is 
afterwards in version 5.1.5 - so that has worked, yay! 
An upload to a newly created TW5-Tiddlyspot has also succeeded (using 
Chrome, since FF did not work.) - yay again! 

But then I noticed that the individual tiddlers have NOT been upgraded!? 
Each and every tiddler shows me an upgrade-button. Clicking this button 
does something to the tiddler, but it does NOT change the twc-syntax to 
tw5-syntax. E.g. I have a lot of code-blocks in my tiddlers (in twc marked 
with braces) - the braces are not converted to backticks (tw5-syntax). 

Am I missing something here? What exactly happens when I click the 
upgrade-button on an individual tiddler? And do I have to convert each and 
every tiddler manually or is there a better (faster) way? 
Is there a possibilty to delete my newly created tw5 on Tiddlyspot and 
start over again with an empty tw, using the same name? 


Any help appreciated, thanx in advance

Dirk

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[tw] [TW5] NaNaNaN on dates

2014-12-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello

Seems that TW does not understand javascript dates. Instead it sets the 
creation and modified date to NaNaN. I did not noticed this behavior 
before, but seems to happen in multiple browsers. Was this happening before?

This is an easy way to reproduce the problem:

Go to tiddlywiki.com, open the console and type the following

tid = $tw.wiki.getTiddler(HelloThere)
jsontid = JSON.stringify(tid.fields)
$tw.wiki.addTiddler(new $tw.Tiddler(JSON.parse(jsontid)))

If you open the info tab of HelloThere tiddler you can see that the created 
and modified fields are filled with NaN. This is a problem if you want to 
stringify a bunch of tiddlers. This does not happen if you use 
getTiddlerAsJson, but I need to encode all the tiddlers at once while 
 holding them into an array. Putting tiddlers as JSON format into an array 
and then stringify that array makes you double stringify on each tiddler, 
which is a problem.

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[tw] Re: need clarification on tw-upgrade: twc = tw5

2014-12-05 Thread Birthe C
Hi Dirk
http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWikiClassic:[[What%20happened%20to%20the%20original%20TiddlyWiki%3F]]%20TiddlyWikiClassic

Am I missing something here? What exactly happens when I click the 
 upgrade-button on an individual tiddler? And do I have to convert each and 
 every tiddler manually or is there a better (faster) way? 
 Is there a possibilty to delete my newly created tw5 on Tiddlyspot and 
 start over again with an empty tw, using the same name? 


So there are no fast way. Also you might have used plugins for TWC, that we 
do not have for TW5.

Upload your new empty TW to Tiddlyspot using the same name and password 
(set in the control panel).


Birthe

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[tw] Re: Notes from Hangout #70

2014-12-05 Thread Shash
Hi Jeremy,

Much of the expert's efforts in this group is duplicated answering the much 
similar questions of users. Also since there a good influx of enthusiasts 
jumping in to make TW5 a great tool, may I suggest you to have folks move 
to stackoverflow http://stackoverflow.com or webapps  
http://webapps.stackexchange.com/on stackexchange to get most of the 
similar or simpler questions answered. Comments welcome

Thanks
Shashank (Shash)

On Wednesday, November 26, 2014 11:02:44 PM UTC+5:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 At todays TiddlyWiki Hangout #70 we had a discussion about surmounting the 
 obstacles to TiddlyWiki's broader adoption. It was triggered by this 
 discussion thread:

 https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tiddlywiki/_rScP9Lscdg/discussion

 I wanted to record a few concrete suggestions that we discussed. The 
 hangout recording can be seen here:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKDVD6mf9tk

 ! Defining roles within the TiddlyWiki community

 In order to better coordinate contributions to the project we should 
 identify formal roles within the community, ask for volunteers to fill 
 those roles, and list them on tiddlywiki.com.

 For example:

 Head of Translations
 tiddlywiki.com Editor
 tiddlywiki.org Editor
 Owners for TiddlyWiki plugins such as CodeMirror, Highlight, KaTeX, 
 tw2parser
 Owners for each translation

 ! Establishing a TW5 community wiki

 To provide a place for community-created documentation we should move the 
 current http://tiddlywiki.org content to classic.tiddlywiki.org, and 
 instantiate a new TW5-based TiddlySpace at tiddlywiki.org.

 We'll need a dedicated and enthusiastic editor to take ownership, just as 
 Tobias did for the TWC community wiki. We may also need some dev work to 
 get TW5 working sufficiently well on TiddlySpace.

 ! Easing the path for contributions to the docs on tiddlywiki.com

 Anyone should be able to contribute by editing tiddlywiki.com, saving 
 changes and submitting the resulting file to the editor.

 ! Replacing the TiddlyWikiDev discussion group with the use of GitHub 
 issues

 Google Groups are not working well for us. We should put the current 
 TiddlyWikiDev group into read-only mode and move future discussions to 
 GitHub. We'd gain the ability to edit posts, use syntax highlighting and 
 labels.

 ! Gathering testimonials from TiddlyWiki users

 Testimonials are a great way to show people the value of TiddlyWiki. We 
 should figure out a way to invite users to contribute a testimonial, and to 
 show them on tiddlywiki.com

 ! Eventually, replacing the TiddlyWiki discussion group with a federated 
 TiddlyWiki-based alternative

 This is a big one, and not something that we can do in the near term. It's 
 not the only way to free us from the limitations of Google Groups but it's 
 one of the most powerful. I'm not afraid of ambitious goals that take 
 multiple manoeuvres to accomplish; choosing the right ones is a great way 
 to guide and shape ones agenda.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.



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[tw] Is there a way to drag text from one tiddler to another using mouse rather than copy paste.

2014-12-05 Thread Shash
Hi everyone,

As the question goes is there any way to drag text from one tiddler to 
another using mouse rather than copy paste.

Thanks!
Shash

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[tw] [TW5] check data tiddler for defined index

2014-12-05 Thread Tobias Beer
I am using this redirect template tagged *$:/tags/ViewTemplate*...

$:/.tb/ui/ViewTemplate/redirected-tb5 @ tb5 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2F.tb%2Fui%2FViewTemplate%2Fredirected-tb5

...to show a conditional message based on whether or not there is an entry 
for the current tiddler in this JSON DataTiddler:

$:/.tb/config/redirected-tb5 @ tb5 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2F.tb%2Fconfig%2Fredirected-tb5

However, I don't want the entire message to be contained in the 
DataTiddler, but rather move the common bits (moved to ) into the 
template, yet still be able to transclude the contents of that DataTiddler 
index.

At that point, I need a *$reveal* or *$list filter=[all[current]...]* to 
check if that index is defined for the current tiddler.
This is where I'm stuck, as I always get the moved to  message...

\define getIndex() {{$:/.tb/config/Redirected-tb5##$(currentTiddler)$}}
$reveal type=nomatch default= text=redirect
div class=redirected
moved to $transclude tiddler=$:/.tb/config/Redirected-tb5 index=
currentTiddler/
/div
/$reveal

How do I conditionally check if an index is defined?

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] NaNaNaN on dates

2014-12-05 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Danielo,

The problem seems to lie in using JSON.stringify on a tiddler object, as it 
produces these values for...

modified:2014-11-26T15:30:16.142Z,
created:2013-08-22T17:02:00.000Z

Notice the T and the Z and... all the weird formatting that doesn't look 
like the core dateformat.

So, is JSON.stringify the appropriate call to make?

Why would you use it anyways?

Also, this is definitely a dev topic / a question for GitHub, I think.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Notes from Hangout #70

2014-12-05 Thread Mat
Shash wrote:

  stackoverflow http://stackoverflow.com or webapps  
 http://webapps.stackexchange.com/on stackexchange to get most of the 
 similar or simpler questions answered. Comments 

 
I also think this type of application should work very well for us but it 
should obviously be designed in TW. Jeremy did also indicate we should 
build a TW solution instead of the google groups, but that this is too big 
a project for us to prioritize right now.

...however... just maybe this is something that Danielos GoogleDrive could 
be used for? Or at least dabbling with. It seems to have some of the key 
issues solved already, particularly the hosting problem. As far as I can 
tell, GoogleDrive would be perfect for this type of rough 
mass-documentation.

@Danielo - comments?

And, to get it to kick off in a very fast way, we could import threads from 
here, ie from google groups, and turn posts into tiddlers, linked into 
threads. I did some conceptual brainstorming on the idea 
http://tiddlynodes.tiddlyspace.com/# some time ago together with one of 
the core developers but in the end he had to prioritize other stuff. But 
appearently, the actual conversion from posts here into tiddlers should not 
be too difficult from what I undestood.

:-)

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[tw] Re: Notes from Hangout #70

2014-12-05 Thread PMario
On Friday, December 5, 2014 11:58:39 AM UTC+1, Shash wrote:

 Much of the expert's efforts in this group is duplicated answering the 
 much similar questions of users. Also since there a good influx of 
 enthusiasts jumping in to make TW5 a great tool, may I suggest you to have 
 folks move to stackoverflow http://stackoverflow.com or webapps  
 http://webapps.stackexchange.com/on stackexchange to get most of the 
 similar or simpler questions answered. Comments welcome


I've never seen this post is closed, because a moron thinks, you should 
use search here in the group. It happens all the time on stackoverflow. 
... I probably won't post there. 

Using search is important, sure but TW answers posted a year ago are 
probably outdated and it is ok to ask again. 

-mario

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[tw] Re: Notes from Hangout #70

2014-12-05 Thread Tobias Beer


 stackoverflow http://stackoverflow.com


If it didn't have this techy feel to it, it would be close to perfect.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Is there a way to drag text from one tiddler to another using mouse rather than copy paste.

2014-12-05 Thread Tobias Beer


 As the question goes is there any way to drag text from one tiddler to 
 another using mouse rather than copy paste.


Just, why ...and above all, how, do you imagine that to happen?

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Is there a way to drag text from one tiddler to another using mouse rather than copy paste.

2014-12-05 Thread PMario
I don't understand your question. I did a short test just now and it works 
as expected. 

Double clicking a word selects it.
Tripple clicking the editor selects all.
Double click-hold move mouse selects words. 
Click move mouse selects area.

If the selection is done, dd works as expected, if 2 tiddlers are open in 
the same TW. It also works with 2 windows with open tiddlers in edit mode. 

I'm using FF latest and win 8.1

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Latest tiddlydrive4community, now with all available plugins on startup

2014-12-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello,

I just updated tiddlydrive4commuinity to the latest core of the plugin. The 
main new feature is that tiddlers available on the server are downloaded on 
startup. This is like having those tiddlers included in the main file but 
the main file will load much faster. Check it out here:

http://danielo515.github.io/TiddlyDrive4Community

I'm not sure if I like this approach or I would prefer to load just the 
definitions of the tiddlers, with, maybe, the keywords in the text or 
something else.

Please give me your feedback.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] NaNaNaN on dates

2014-12-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez


El viernes, 5 de diciembre de 2014 12:29:57 UTC+1, Tobias Beer escribió:

 Hi Danielo,

 The problem seems to lie in using JSON.stringify on a tiddler object, as 
 it produces these values for...


I knew already the problem was using the stringify method of JSON , but I 
don't understand why this just does not work.


 So, is JSON.stringify the appropriate call to make?


To get a JSON representation, yes, it is the correct one. 

 

 Why would you use it anyways?


I need an array of tiddler fields in JSON to sent it to the server.
 


 Also, this is definitely a dev topic / a question for GitHub, I think.


I agree, but dev group seems to have less attention.


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[tw] Re: [TW5] NaNaNaN on dates

2014-12-05 Thread Stephan Hradek


Am Freitag, 5. Dezember 2014 12:29:57 UTC+1 schrieb Tobias Beer:

 Hi Danielo,

 The problem seems to lie in using JSON.stringify on a tiddler object, as 
 it produces these values for...

 modified:2014-11-26T15:30:16.142Z,
 created:2013-08-22T17:02:00.000Z

 Notice the T and the Z and... all the weird formatting that doesn't look 
 like the core dateformat.


That's a perfectly valid ISO 8601 timestamp for UTC (Zulu) time but not the 
format TW5 expects.

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[tw] Re: Latest tiddlydrive4community, now with all available plugins on startup

2014-12-05 Thread Mat
Great things are progressing!
 

 tiddlers available on the server are downloaded on startup. 



   - OK, now I can find my own tiddlers under tab More  All. Good. I would 
   also like to see added tiddlers under tab Recent, or some new top level 
   tab. I mean, if there is documentation it makes sense to get a latest 
   updates list. Especially now that we want people to experiment. Currently 
   the resulting user contributions are way too hidden for being the main idea 
   of it all.
   - I notice a tiddler titled $:/temp/GAS/conflicts appears at top when I 
   load, suggesting to import GettingStarted. Bug?
   - Idea: The field for filling in username coudl be up in left corner. 
   For now, I'd sugest fully visible but later on perhaps behind some icon 
   (i.e slider). When the user fills this, then his personal tag could show 
   somewhere (on right side of screen perhaps), i.e so that anything 
   previously tagged with this is immediately accessible by clicking it. 
   - If I upload a tiddler and reload the wiki, I'm of course alerted that 
   I haven't saved the wiki. But saving here means downloading it which is not 
   really relevant. It would make more sense if there was an altert about 
   un-uploaded tiddlers. Maybe icon cloud with a tick in it, analogous to the 
   circle with the tick.
   - Apropos icons; am I the only one who thinks the dark cloud with what I 
   assume is an arrow(?) looks more like some guy with a huuuge afro?

:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: How to upload TiddlyWiki file to a website?

2014-12-05 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Chuck / Daniel,
 

 If you aren't into dropbox, tiddlyspot.com will remote host your wiki for 
 you, you'll get backups there.  It's possible to get a TW5 onto tiddlyspot 
 (TW5 supports saving to tiddlyspot out of the box), but we haven't had time 
 to write it into the get-started bit yet.

 I think tiddlyspace.com does something similar.


Right now, TiddlySpot http://tiddlyspot.com/ works like a charm and 
provides a very smooth experience...

http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#TiddlySpot

...whereas with TiddlySpace there are a few quite major restrictions...

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1194#issuecomment-65726736

As also explained on TiddlyWiki.com 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#Saving%20on%20a%20PHP%20Server, you can also 
rather easily run...

your own TiddlySpot-like upload server 
http://tb5.tiddlyspot.com/#Your%20own%20TiddlySpot-like%20upload%20server

...if you wish to use TiddlyWiki as an actual website, for which dropbox is 
not a solution.

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Is there a way to drag text from one tiddler to another using mouse rather than copy paste.

2014-12-05 Thread Tobias Beer
I don't think Shash was thinking / asking in terms of edit-mode.
But that's for her / him to clarify. :)

Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Is there a way to drag text from one tiddler to another using mouse rather than copy paste.

2014-12-05 Thread Tobias Beer
And, nice...

If the selection is done, dd works as expected, if 2 tiddlers are open in 
 the same TW. 

It also works with 2 windows with open tiddlers in edit mode. 


...although I much prefer CTRL+C, CTRL+V, I didn't know it actually worked 
that way already.

Best wishes, Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Calendar Plugin from BJ and changed journal date format

2014-12-05 Thread Jens
Don't see Month and Weekday Names.

Hi BJ,

I just installed your Calendar PlugIn. Very nice. Unfortunately it doesn't 
print the month and weekday names. So what I see is

| 2014   |
| 1 | 2 | 3 ...

What I expected is

|  December 2014 |
| Mon | Tue | 
| 1 | 2 | 3 ...

I guess I need more than just your this tiddlers = 
http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fbj%2FCalendar.

Thanks you very much in advance for any help.

Jens

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[tw] Re: [TW5] NaNaNaN on dates

2014-12-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Stephan ,

Any possible solution ? Should y treat the date first ? Before saving it as 
json or when importing it as json ? Any idea ?

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[tw] Re: Latest tiddlydrive4community, now with all available plugins on startup

2014-12-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez




- OK, now I can find my own tiddlers under tab More  All. Good. 


This was also possible in previous version.
 


- I would also like to see added tiddlers under tab Recent, or some 
new top level tab. I mean, if there is documentation it makes sense to get 
a latest updates list. Especially now that we want people to experiment. 
Currently the resulting user contributions are way too hidden for being 
 the 
main idea of it all.

 This is because a bug with dates that I'm trying to resolve.
 


- I notice a tiddler titled $:/temp/GAS/conflicts appears at top when 
I load, suggesting to import GettingStarted. Bug?

 It's not a bug, it is intended. TiddlyDrive is designed to protect the 
data that is already on your TW. Someone created a tiddler called 
GettingStarted, which is a tiddler that every tiddlywiki has. 
GettingStarted is not a normal tiddler, is a shadow one, so when the list 
of existing tiddlers is sent to the server, this one is not included. As a 
result, the server includes it in the response. TiddlyDrive tries to 
override already existing tiddlers, event when importing silently. That's 
why the conflict menu is displayed. 
 


- Idea: The field for filling in username coudl be up in left corner. 
For now, I'd sugest fully visible but later on perhaps behind some icon 
(i.e slider). When the user fills this, then his personal tag could show 
somewhere (on right side of screen perhaps), i.e so that anything 
previously tagged with this is immediately accessible by clicking it.

 I like the idea except for the place of the field. I will prefer to put it 
on the sidebar, instead of the search bar. The auto-tagging thing will take 
a bit more of work I think,
 


- If I upload a tiddler and reload the wiki, I'm of course alerted 
that I haven't saved the wiki. But saving here means downloading it which 
is not really relevant. It would make more sense if there was an altert 
about un-uploaded tiddlers. Maybe icon cloud with a tick in it, analogous 
to the circle with the tick.

 It is planned something similar. But I'm not sure If I can and if I should 
remove that warning since the aim of TiddlyDrive is to store data locally 
backing it up to the server.
 


- Apropos icons; am I the only one who thinks the dark cloud with what 
I assume is an arrow(?) looks more like some guy with a huuuge afro?

 :-)


If you find something better I will include it :) This one is the better I 
found. 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] NaNaNaN on dates

2014-12-05 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Danielo

To get a JSON representation of a tiddler you should call
`wiki.getTiddlerAsJson(title)`.

The reason is that the tiddler object supports fields of types other than
strings. The modified and created fields are JavaScript Date() objects, and
the list and tags fields are arrays of strings. So, if you convert the
tiddler object directly to JSON you'll end up with those data types used
for the fields.

Best wishes

Jeremy.




On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Danielo Rodríguez rdani...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello Stephan ,

 Any possible solution ? Should y treat the date first ? Before saving it
 as json or when importing it as json ? Any idea ?

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Re: [tw] Re: Is there a way to drag text from one tiddler to another using mouse rather than copy paste.

2014-12-05 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Shash

 As the question goes is there any way to drag text from one tiddler to
another using mouse rather than copy paste.

Yes, you can select text and then drag it into the TiddlyWiki text editor.
You can do this to transfer text from another app, another website, or a
different tiddler within the same wiki.

Best wishes

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On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Tobias Beer beertob...@gmail.com wrote:

 And, nice...

 If the selection is done, dd works as expected, if 2 tiddlers are open in
 the same TW.

 It also works with 2 windows with open tiddlers in edit mode.


 ...although I much prefer CTRL+C, CTRL+V, I didn't know it actually worked
 that way already.

 Best wishes, Tobias.

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[tw] Re: need clarification on tw-upgrade: twc = tw5

2014-12-05 Thread Dirk Huth
Hej Birthe, 

mange takk! I didn't expect the plugins to work, just thought a syntax 
converter might have been nice. The link you provided mentioned a tw2parser 
plugin - I will have a closer look at that. Replacing my erroneous tw5 
with a new empty one of the same name has worked! Thanks again for that! 
(But now I wonder what will happen to all the backups from the old version 
which are still there. Can I delete them manually? Will only a certain 
number of backups be stored and will they be rolled? I.e. will a new 
backup occasionally replace the oldest one when max. number is reached? 
Probably not a question for this board, but you seemed to know your way on 
tiddlyspot as well ... ;-)

Best greetings, 
Dirk

Am Freitag, 5. Dezember 2014 10:44:47 UTC+1 schrieb Birthe C:

 Hi Dirk

 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWikiClassic:[[What%20happened%20to%20the%20original%20TiddlyWiki%3F]]%20TiddlyWikiClassic

 Am I missing something here? What exactly happens when I click the 
 upgrade-button on an individual tiddler? And do I have to convert each and 
 every tiddler manually or is there a better (faster) way? 
 Is there a possibilty to delete my newly created tw5 on Tiddlyspot and 
 start over again with an empty tw, using the same name? 


 So there are no fast way. Also you might have used plugins for TWC, that 
 we do not have for TW5.

 Upload your new empty TW to Tiddlyspot using the same name and password 
 (set in the control panel).


 Birthe


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[tw] [TW5] bug report - TOC problems with Tiddlers containing square brackets in the title

2014-12-05 Thread Michael Wiktowy
Hello,

I am not sure if square brackets are supposed to be allowed in tiddler 
titles but I noticed that the automatic TOC builders do not like them much. 
It tries to interpret the titles as filters in some way. This isn't an 
issue with round or squiggly brackets but I can imagine that the same issue 
that is interpreting this case might have problems with other special 
character combinations. Double square brackets have a similar issue but 
seem to give a different manifestation with the TOC is sorted than single 
square brackets.

The following is a json export of a self contained group of Tiddlers 
showing this problem. (I couldn't attach as a file for some reason but 
cutting and pasting into a text file and importing that into any TiddlyWiki 
should work fine):

[
{
created: 20141205171240135,
text: Some text in Tiddler [with square brackets],
tags: [[bug report]] [[Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with 
square brackets in title]],
title: Tiddler [with square brackets],
modified: 20141205171954093
},
{
created: 20141205171518406,
text: Some text in Tiddler (with round brackets),
tags: [[bug report]] [[Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with 
square brackets in title]],
title: Tiddler (with round brackets),
modified: 20141205172005060
},
{
created: 20141205171703109,
text: Some text in Tiddler {with squiggly brackets},
tags: [[Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets 
in title]] [[bug report]],
title: Tiddler {with squiggly brackets},
modified: 20141205172022775
},
{
created: 20141205171000230,
text: Simple TOC:\ndiv class=\tc-table-of-contents\\ntoc 
\Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets in 
title\\n/div\n\nExpandable TOC:\ndiv 
class=\tc-table-of-contents\\ntoc-expandable \Tiddler with TOC 
containing Tiddler with square brackets in title\\n/div\n\nSelective 
Expandable TOC:\ndiv 
class=\tc-table-of-contents\\ntoc-selective-expandable \Tiddler with 
TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets in title\\n/div\n\nSorted 
Expandable TOC:\ndiv class=\tc-table-of-contents\\ntoc-expandable 
\Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets in title\ 
\sort[title]\\n/div,
title: Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets 
in title,
tags: [[bug report]],
modified: 20141205173324901
},
{
created: 20141205174257528,
text: Text in Tiddler with {{double squiggly brackets}},
tags: [[Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets 
in title]] [[bug report]],
title: Tiddler with {{double squiggly brackets}},
modified: 20141205174353746
},
{
created: 20141205174410946,
text: Text in Tiddler with [[double square brackets]],
tags: [[Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets 
in title]] [[bug report]],
title: Tiddler with [[double square brackets]],
modified: 20141205174557791
}
]


I have worked around this just by using round brackets in place of square 
ones. However, is there an official accepted way to escape these special 
characters to avoid interpretation yet avoid tiddler naming/linking 
nightmares?

Thanks,
/Mike

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[tw] Re: need clarification on tw-upgrade: twc = tw5

2014-12-05 Thread Birthe C
Hi Dirk

I really only know what can be read in the faq:
You can access a certain number of older versions of your site via http://
*your-site-name*.tiddlyspot.com/backup/
Use http://*your-site-name*.tiddlyspot.com/controlpanel/ for deleting your 
site or changing your password.

Tiddlyspot is really great! I have used it for years without any problems.



Birthe

On Friday, December 5, 2014 6:05:47 PM UTC+1, Dirk Huth wrote:

 Hej Birthe, 

 mange takk! I didn't expect the plugins to work, just thought a syntax 
 converter might have been nice. The link you provided mentioned a tw2parser 
 plugin - I will have a closer look at that. Replacing my erroneous tw5 
 with a new empty one of the same name has worked! Thanks again for that! 
 (But now I wonder what will happen to all the backups from the old version 
 which are still there. Can I delete them manually? Will only a certain 
 number of backups be stored and will they be rolled? I.e. will a new 
 backup occasionally replace the oldest one when max. number is reached? 
 Probably not a question for this board, but you seemed to know your way on 
 tiddlyspot as well ... ;-)

 Best greetings, 
 Dirk



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[tw] [TW5] Is there a tag structure that allows children to be tagged with all of their ancestors and still maintain the toc

2014-12-05 Thread Jed Carty
I haven't been able to find a way to allow a tiddler to be tagged with all 
of its ancestors in the table of contents. The specific example I have is 
in the wiki I use for my dissertation notes I have a Citations section, at 
the moment I have all of my citations simply tagged with 'Citations', I 
would like to be able to keep that tag and divide them into sub-categories, 
like Citations::Noise Models, and have the table of contents use that 
hierarchy, with tiddlers tagged 'Noise Models' that aren't citations not 
listed under citations. There are some other thing I would like to do using 
this idea for tags, but they all rely on being able to do this first.

Does anyone know of a way to do this or have any ideas on how I could make 
it work?

There are probably a bunch of cases where this breaks, so I may need to 
refine the idea before it is possible, but I figured I would try asking if 
someone else had tried first.

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[tw] TW5 link to list of tags

2014-12-05 Thread Paul Hodor
In classic TW I could add a link to a particular tag like this:

tag journal

This syntax does not seem to work in TW5. What is the equivalent?

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[tw] Re: Calendar Plugin from BJ and changed journal date format

2014-12-05 Thread BJ

Intriguing!

The days and month names are provided by the tiddlycore - what version of 
tiddlywiki5 are you using -  

cheers

BJ

On Friday, December 5, 2014 9:58:53 AM UTC-6, Jens wrote:

 Don't see Month and Weekday Names.

 Hi BJ,

 I just installed your Calendar PlugIn. Very nice. Unfortunately it doesn't 
 print the month and weekday names. So what I see is

 | 2014   |
 | 1 | 2 | 3 ...

 What I expected is

 |  December 2014 |
 | Mon | Tue | 
 | 1 | 2 | 3 ...

 I guess I need more than just your this tiddlers = 
 http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fbj%2FCalendar.

 Thanks you very much in advance for any help.

 Jens



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[tw] Re: [TW5] Tweet This or Pin That - Social Buttons

2014-12-05 Thread BJ
Hi Rich - do you mean putting tweeds into a tiddler?

cheers BJ

On Thursday, December 4, 2014 10:23:52 PM UTC-6, RichShumaker wrote:

 Has anyone incorporated Tweet or Pins to their TW5 to allow individual 
 tiddlers to be shared?

 Thanks again everyone.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] bug report - TOC problems with Tiddlers containing square brackets in the title

2014-12-05 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Michael

I'm afraid that as you've found the TOC macro doesn't work well with
tiddlers with square brackets in their titles. There isn't a workaround at
the moment. With some work I think we could fix it so that it does work,
though. I've created a ticket here:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/1200

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Michael Wiktowy mwikt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I am not sure if square brackets are supposed to be allowed in tiddler
 titles but I noticed that the automatic TOC builders do not like them much.
 It tries to interpret the titles as filters in some way. This isn't an
 issue with round or squiggly brackets but I can imagine that the same issue
 that is interpreting this case might have problems with other special
 character combinations. Double square brackets have a similar issue but
 seem to give a different manifestation with the TOC is sorted than single
 square brackets.

 The following is a json export of a self contained group of Tiddlers
 showing this problem. (I couldn't attach as a file for some reason but
 cutting and pasting into a text file and importing that into any TiddlyWiki
 should work fine):

 [
 {
 created: 20141205171240135,
 text: Some text in Tiddler [with square brackets],
 tags: [[bug report]] [[Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with
 square brackets in title]],
 title: Tiddler [with square brackets],
 modified: 20141205171954093
 },
 {
 created: 20141205171518406,
 text: Some text in Tiddler (with round brackets),
 tags: [[bug report]] [[Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with
 square brackets in title]],
 title: Tiddler (with round brackets),
 modified: 20141205172005060
 },
 {
 created: 20141205171703109,
 text: Some text in Tiddler {with squiggly brackets},
 tags: [[Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square
 brackets in title]] [[bug report]],
 title: Tiddler {with squiggly brackets},
 modified: 20141205172022775
 },
 {
 created: 20141205171000230,
 text: Simple TOC:\ndiv class=\tc-table-of-contents\\ntoc
 \Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets in
 title\\n/div\n\nExpandable TOC:\ndiv
 class=\tc-table-of-contents\\ntoc-expandable \Tiddler with TOC
 containing Tiddler with square brackets in title\\n/div\n\nSelective
 Expandable TOC:\ndiv
 class=\tc-table-of-contents\\ntoc-selective-expandable \Tiddler with
 TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets in title\\n/div\n\nSorted
 Expandable TOC:\ndiv class=\tc-table-of-contents\\ntoc-expandable
 \Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets in title\
 \sort[title]\\n/div,
 title: Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square brackets
 in title,
 tags: [[bug report]],
 modified: 20141205173324901
 },
 {
 created: 20141205174257528,
 text: Text in Tiddler with {{double squiggly brackets}},
 tags: [[Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square
 brackets in title]] [[bug report]],
 title: Tiddler with {{double squiggly brackets}},
 modified: 20141205174353746
 },
 {
 created: 20141205174410946,
 text: Text in Tiddler with [[double square brackets]],
 tags: [[Tiddler with TOC containing Tiddler with square
 brackets in title]] [[bug report]],
 title: Tiddler with [[double square brackets]],
 modified: 20141205174557791
 }
 ]


 I have worked around this just by using round brackets in place of square
 ones. However, is there an official accepted way to escape these special
 characters to avoid interpretation yet avoid tiddler naming/linking
 nightmares?

 Thanks,
 /Mike

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[tw] [TW5] Use caption for link in exists?

2014-12-05 Thread Michael Wiktowy
Hello,

I am currently using a caption in certain Tiddlers so that I can change 
their labels in the TOC (in order to have a unique Tiddler name without 
having to have a unique TOC entry). I am also gathering up section with a 
filter and transcluding these sections through a template file containing a 
$link macro. Is there a way that I can use the $link macro to show the 
caption field if it exists, otherwise show the title field? There seems 
to be a lot of different configuration macros listed 
in http://tiddlywiki.com/#LinkWidget but none seem to do what I need.

Thanks
/Mike

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Re: [tw] Using JetBrains WebStorm's spy-js to profile TiddlyWiki 5 under node.js

2014-12-05 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Jim

Good stuff. I've not done any profiling of TiddlyWiki under Node.js, but I
do sometimes use the browser developer tools (particularly Chrome). I'll be
very interested in any discoveries you make,

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Jim Lehmer jim.leh...@gmail.com wrote:

 While digging into my static site project, I wanted to capture something I
 got working the other day using WebStorm (I am on the free 30-day trial :)
 ). They have a profiling tool called spy-js, and it shows some interesting
 things, although ultimately it didn't give me the detail I wanted
 (especially on parameter contents on method calls). However, I did gain
 some insight into how TW5 works that helps flesh out the architectural
 documentation I've read (which isn't all of it, yet).

 I am thinking njsTrace https://github.com/valyouw/njstrace (open
 source, which is better) may be a better choice. Has anyone here used it to
 trace TW under node?

 Anyway, just in case anyone else stumbles across this doing a search, here
 is how I set up the run profile (with my userid in the Users directory
 elided). It is with node installed per default on Windows and *npm
 install tiddlywiki *run under my own user id, with the actual TW set up
 in a sandbox location.


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rNs61-gobIw/VICNiMp1EtI/AAABO-c/D4EIVm0orjg/s1600/WebStorm%2BSpy-Js%2Bfor%2BNode%2BRun%2BConfiguration.JPG

 Here is a sample of the output;


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FwWWcOQJ_fk/VICOP6kiF4I/AAABO-o/8gQUvHzzS6U/s1600/Spy-Js%2BResults.JPG
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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Use caption for link in exists?

2014-12-05 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Michael

The key is that both the transclude and view widgets render their own
content as a fallback if the specified content is not available. In this
case, the view widget is contained within the transclude widget, and so it
is only rendered when the target of the transclusion is not available.

By the way, the core macros generally transclude the caption field (which
means that its content are wikified) and views the title field (which means
that it is not wikified). It's useful to transclude the caption field so
that it can include logic to handle translation, but it's never useful to
wikify the title field because it is always used raw.

Best wishes

Jeremy.



On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Michael Wiktowy mwikt...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Friday, December 5, 2014 2:49:51 PM UTC-5, Evolena wrote:

 The list-links macro uses this method:

 $link to={{!!title}}
 $transclude field=caption
 $view field=title/
 /$transclude
 /$link

 The choice of transclude or view widget is up to your use-cases.


 Thank you ... that works perfectly! It will take me some time to figure
 out why it is not displaying both the caption and the title when it exists
 but in the meanwhile I will use that solution blindly :]

 Based on Conditional variables in http://tiddlywiki.com/#SetWidget , I
 was fiddling along the lines of something like:

 $set name=display_name filter=[is[current]field:caption[]]
 value={{!!caption}} emptyValue={{!!title}}
 $linkdisplay_name/$link
 /$set

 but getting no success. Maybe it was a blind alley ...

 Thanks again,

 /Mike

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Auto-Generated TopBar With Icons — Ordering?!?

2014-12-05 Thread Jeremy Ruston
On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 6:03 PM, BJ buggy...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think it would be good if a tiddler could refer to its own fields


The transclude widget could be extended to set variable(s) to the name of
the tiddler/field/index that was transcluded, would that help?

Best wishes

Jeremy.





 On Wednesday, December 3, 2014 4:28:42 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

 Hi Tobias

 Sorry for the late reply.

 Transcluding with the curly braces syntax actually generates a nested
 pair of a tiddler widget to set the current tiddler and a transclude widget
 to do the transclusion. So the result is just like TWC - by default,
 transcluding a tiddler sets the current tiddler to that tiddler.

  When something is tagged $:/tag/PageTemplate ...this context is?!? I
 don't know

 That's the point, neither do I! If there was a sensible default we could
 implement it.

 Anyhow, if you're underlying problem is that you'd like to be able to
 create wikitext that displays differently according to whether it is in the
 sidebar or in a tiddler, then there has been a thread about that here that
 you should be able to find.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.




 On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Tobias Beer beert...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Jeremy,


 Why would you expect currentTiddler to be defined outside of the
 story river?

 And what value would you expect it to have?


 In TWc, there were two cases in addition to the story-tiddler...

1. a placeholder had the tiddler attribute set to the corrsponding
tiddler, e.g. SiteTitle
2. a transclusion had the tiddler attribute set to the
corresponding tiddler being transcluded via the tiddler macro

 So, there was that way of knowing from within either of these instances
 what placeholder we're in, i.e. what is being rendered. There even had to
 be special handling via *story.findContainingTiddler* to find the
 actual story tiddler within code. Now, I am not saying this was better, but
 it turns out I am missing that other variant now, especially when there is
 no story around my rendered tiddler.

 When something tagged *$:/tag/ViewTemplate* is rendered, then
 *currentTiddler* for that template is what? Exactly, the tiddler for
 which the template is rendered. When something is tagged
 *$:/tag/PageTemplate* ...this context is?!? I don't know. But I'd sure
 like to know from within the code of that tiddler as you can see ...call it
 *contextTiddler*. :)

 Best wishes, Tobias.




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[tw] [TW5] Markdown as default on new tiddlers

2014-12-05 Thread Arthur Borshenko
Hi All,

I have with TW5 and changing the new tiddler setting or macro maybe. I'm 
brand new and have not completely grasped how everything works.

I want to make every new tiddler to default to markdown plugin as the 
editor. I have installed the plugin and I'm able to switch the content type 
to markdown manually, but I haven't figured out how to make every new 
tiddler to default to markdown.

I've searched through the tiddlywiki.com, but couldn't find an answer. 
Thank you for your help.

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] NaNaNaN on dates

2014-12-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello Jeremy 

As I said I can not use the getTiddlerAsJson because I have to put them into an 
array and then encode that array. If I do this I will end with a tiddler double 
encoded. Any workaround? 

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[tw] [TW5] Markdown as default for New Tiddler

2014-12-05 Thread Arthur Borshenko
Hi All,

I have a question about TW5 and changing the new tiddler setting or macro 
maybe. I'm brand new and have not completely grasped how everything works.

I want to make every new tiddler to default to markdown plugin as the 
editor. I have installed the plugin and I'm able to switch the content type 
to markdown manually, but I haven't figured out how to make every new 
tiddler to default to markdown.

I've searched through the tiddlywiki.com, but couldn't find an answer. 
Thank you for your help.

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[tw] How to assign subtitles field to macro

2014-12-05 Thread Danielo Rodríguez
Hello

Is there an easy way to access the fields of a subtiddler? I want to assign the 
value of a field to a macro call. The best approach I got is using the 
transclude macro, but I can not assign it's value. Any help please? 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Creating an edition that requires no knowledge of tiddlywiki

2014-12-05 Thread Jeremy Ruston
Hi Jed

 Do those seem reasonable? And would it be useful for me to package each
part as a plugin so that you can import them into another wiki?

For most editions, it's going to make the most sense to package most of the
tiddlers that comprise the edition as a plugin so that we can upgrade users
in the field. So, the question then would be whether to separate some
features (like the dashboard) out into more reusable plugins, but that's
probably something that can be considered later.

One obstacle to making these editions part of the core library is that
you're currently using a number of community plugins. We have to either
simplify things to make those plugins be optional, or we have to get those
plugins into the core.

It sounds like you've got two quite clearly defined editions: simplest
possible task management and contact management. I think the key is to
ruthlessly target the specific user needs of the vertical edition. The
elements that look like general improvements to TiddlyWiki should migrate
to being a separate plugin (or included in the core).

Best wishes

Jeremy






On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Jed Carty inmyso...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have updated the demo a bit. I plan on putting together an edition that
 just displays the Dashboard tiddler without the system tabs or the edit and
 close buttons with some other minor changes, like changing the introduction
 message to reflect what the wiki does and removing visible tags.

 For example, the contacts one would have `Intorduction` `Contacts` `New
 Contact Form` and `Settings` in the tabbed toc and the other tabs.

 Then there would be one for the task management versions, although the
 nicer one should have more display templates before it is finished.

 Do those seem reasonable? And would it be useful for me to package each
 part as a plugin so that you can import them into another wiki?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Is there a tag structure that allows children to be tagged with all of their ancestors and still maintain the toc

2014-12-05 Thread Joshua
Would something like the following do what you want? It uses nested lists 
and I believe that could work for your TOC.

ul$list filter=[tag[Citation]]
li$link$view field=title //$link
ul
$list filter=[is[current]tagging[Citation]tag[Citation::Noise]]
li$link$view field=title //$link/li
/$list
/ul/li
/$list/ul

Joshua


On Friday, December 5, 2014 12:47:28 PM UTC-6, Jed Carty wrote:

 I haven't been able to find a way to allow a tiddler to be tagged with all 
 of its ancestors in the table of contents. The specific example I have is 
 in the wiki I use for my dissertation notes I have a Citations section, at 
 the moment I have all of my citations simply tagged with 'Citations', I 
 would like to be able to keep that tag and divide them into sub-categories, 
 like Citations::Noise Models, and have the table of contents use that 
 hierarchy, with tiddlers tagged 'Noise Models' that aren't citations not 
 listed under citations. There are some other thing I would like to do using 
 this idea for tags, but they all rely on being able to do this first.

 Does anyone know of a way to do this or have any ideas on how I could make 
 it work?

 There are probably a bunch of cases where this breaks, so I may need to 
 refine the idea before it is possible, but I figured I would try asking if 
 someone else had tried first.


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[tw] Re: Calendar Plugin from BJ and changed journal date format

2014-12-05 Thread NT
Hi Birthe, are we doing different things? If I use diary   or 
diary 2014  my calender does not show up the date of a tiddler 
created with the format YY-0MM-0DD_0hh-0mm-0ss, although the Calndar.json 
configuration is set to
diary:{
lastDayOfWeek:0,
formatter:$:/macros/bj/Calendar/diary.js,
titlebold:yes,
highlightThisDay:yes,
highlightLinks:yes
},
So are you sure that you use really my formatting?
Thanks for your help! NT.

Am Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2014 03:03:23 UTC+1 schrieb Birthe C:

 Hi NT
 The timing part works,  if you use the diary part of the plugin to create 
 your journals. And it will be shown in your calendar. I cannot seem to find 
 the link right now, but calendar and journals has been discussed not long 
 ago. Also the possibility of adding fields if need bee.

 Birthe

 On Thursday, December 4, 2014 2:47:06 AM UTC+1, NT wrote:

 Hey Birthe, thanks for the fast answer. 
 Yes I set the journal format in the control panel and I am pretty sure 
 that the timing part matters as this is the major difference.
 So I think the timing part is the reason why the functionality breaks. 
 I would strongly guess that every unusual single sign - even a underline 
 - could break the function if the title is been parsed. 
 This limits the customizability of the date format a lot if it should 
 work together with the calendar. 
 So my secondary question was why the date-created field is not used for 
 this - even if it's only a fallback option if the date format for the title 
 is not been recognized?
 Then you would be totally free with your date format of the title.

 Am Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2014 02:12:44 UTC+1 schrieb Birthe C:

 Hi NT
 Did you set new journal format from the control panel? I just tried that 
 and it shows up in the calendar. It didn't try for the timing part though.


 Birthe



 On Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:45:45 AM UTC+1, NT wrote:

 Hi Community, I'm new to Tiddly Wiki and found the calendar plugin from 
 BJ.

 It works when you are using the default date format for a new journal 
 tiddler.
 But if I am using a different format, say YY-0MM-0DD_0hh-0mm-0ss no 
 marks are showing up in the calendar anymore for this date.
 So I assume BJ parses the tiddler title to get the date - am I wrong?

 First question: Wouldn't it be better to take the created-field for 
 that as the journal title is variable?
 Second question: If that would be better, why had BJ chosen the title 
 anyway?
 @BJ: Maybe you could answer yourself if you read this? :-)
 (But community oppinions are very welcome as well)

 The relevant code seems to be located in journalslinked.js of the 
 plugin.
 But i was not able to figure out what needs to be changed there to fit 
 my format.

 So, final question: What needs to be changed to fit the date/time 
 format YY-0MM-0DD_0hh-0mm-0ss and why?

 Hope I could learn some insights of Tiddly Wiki if someone is willing 
 to help me with this.
 Thank you.



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[tw] Re: Add side bar content? (tabs)

2014-12-05 Thread juliabell
I looked at the entries in Suggestions for Learning More, but I don't see a 
response that tells me how to add the Contents tab.  Can you identify a 
specific response in that thread that refers specifically to that item?


On Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:31:58 PM UTC-7, Jon wrote:

 Hi,

 see responses to recent post Suggestions for Learning More 
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#%21topic/TiddlyWiki/nxIfhbvgGyM

 Jon

 On Thursday, 17 July 2014 05:27:03 UTC+1, FAYNUS wrote:

 If you go to the main http://tiddlywiki.com you will see off to the 
 right various tabs: Open Contents Recent Tools More By default it 
 seems my tidily wiki does not offer the Contents tab. How would I go 
 about making something similar to this on my own wiki? Many thanks!



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[tw] Re: Calendar Plugin from BJ and changed journal date format

2014-12-05 Thread Birthe C
Hig NT

I'm so sorry. I clearly mixed something up. As BJ explained himself above 
it is not possible to use calendar in this way at least for now.


Birthe

On Friday, December 5, 2014 11:22:59 PM UTC+1, NT wrote:

 Hi Birthe, are we doing different things? If I use diary   or 
 diary 2014  my calender does not show up the date of a tiddler 
 created with the format YY-0MM-0DD_0hh-0mm-0ss, although the Calndar.json 
 configuration is set to
 diary:{
 lastDayOfWeek:0,
 formatter:$:/macros/bj/Calendar/diary.js,
 titlebold:yes,
 highlightThisDay:yes,
 highlightLinks:yes
 },
 So are you sure that you use really my formatting?
 Thanks for your help! NT.

 Am Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2014 03:03:23 UTC+1 schrieb Birthe C:

 Hi NT
 The timing part works,  if you use the diary part of the plugin to create 
 your journals. And it will be shown in your calendar. I cannot seem to find 
 the link right now, but calendar and journals has been discussed not long 
 ago. Also the possibility of adding fields if need bee.

 Birthe

 On Thursday, December 4, 2014 2:47:06 AM UTC+1, NT wrote:

 Hey Birthe, thanks for the fast answer. 
 Yes I set the journal format in the control panel and I am pretty sure 
 that the timing part matters as this is the major difference.
 So I think the timing part is the reason why the functionality breaks. 
 I would strongly guess that every unusual single sign - even a underline 
 - could break the function if the title is been parsed. 
 This limits the customizability of the date format a lot if it should 
 work together with the calendar. 
 So my secondary question was why the date-created field is not used for 
 this - even if it's only a fallback option if the date format for the title 
 is not been recognized?
 Then you would be totally free with your date format of the title.

 Am Donnerstag, 4. Dezember 2014 02:12:44 UTC+1 schrieb Birthe C:

 Hi NT
 Did you set new journal format from the control panel? I just tried 
 that and it shows up in the calendar. It didn't try for the timing part 
 though.


 Birthe



 On Thursday, December 4, 2014 1:45:45 AM UTC+1, NT wrote:

 Hi Community, I'm new to Tiddly Wiki and found the calendar plugin 
 from BJ.

 It works when you are using the default date format for a new journal 
 tiddler.
 But if I am using a different format, say YY-0MM-0DD_0hh-0mm-0ss no 
 marks are showing up in the calendar anymore for this date.
 So I assume BJ parses the tiddler title to get the date - am I wrong?

 First question: Wouldn't it be better to take the created-field for 
 that as the journal title is variable?
 Second question: If that would be better, why had BJ chosen the title 
 anyway?
 @BJ: Maybe you could answer yourself if you read this? :-)
 (But community oppinions are very welcome as well)

 The relevant code seems to be located in journalslinked.js of the 
 plugin.
 But i was not able to figure out what needs to be changed there to fit 
 my format.

 So, final question: What needs to be changed to fit the date/time 
 format YY-0MM-0DD_0hh-0mm-0ss and why?

 Hope I could learn some insights of Tiddly Wiki if someone is willing 
 to help me with this.
 Thank you.



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[tw] Re: Calendar Plugin from BJ and changed journal date format

2014-12-05 Thread NT
Hi BJ, thanks for your input!
First I think your calendar is a quite nice thing for the right purpose, so 
thanks for your work.
Unfortunately I have the tendency to just try to use things in a way that 
they are not made for.

I understood why you chose the title and not the creation date of the 
tiddler and that makes sense.
My usecase was just to put some journal notes within the day and other days 
but most of the time with a different subject.
I use the time formatting for journals to separate my entries to different 
tiddlers for the reason of being able to tag them with complement tags.
If I would put complement notes in the same journal, tagging it with many 
complement tags, then after a month when I call a tag I would get a mass of 
quite all that I wrote down, but only 20% of it is the information I need - 
thats a bad aggregation.

On the other hand I don't make notes every day and I had the intention that 
the calendar was supposed to show me at which day I made a note or some 
notes at all.
Without thinking about it I just expected that by clicking on a day in the 
calender all journals of this day would show up.
Unfortunately I am quite busy as well, otherwise I would really like it to 
make a pull and experimenting with your code.
But initially I thought I had missed something that is adjustable by 
configuration or a line of formatting code.
I am not familiar with tiddlywiki or node.js and its some time ago that I 
did javascript at all - so playing with your code would take some time of 
orientation.
But maybe there's another solution to my usecase - I don't see it yet, but 
perhaps some of the readers ?!?! :-)

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[tw] Re: Latest tiddlydrive4community, now with all available plugins on startup

2014-12-05 Thread Mat



- Idea: The field for filling in username coudl be up in left corner. 
For now, I'd sugest fully visible but later on perhaps behind some icon 
(i.e slider). When the user fills this, then his personal tag could 
 show 
somewhere (on right side of screen perhaps), i.e so that anything 
previously tagged with this is immediately accessible by clicking it.

 I like the idea except for the place of the field. I will prefer to put 
 it on the sidebar, instead of the search bar. The auto-tagging thing will 
 take a bit more of work I think,


Modified idea, no tags involved:
(a) Usertab in sidebar. (b) At top in this, field where user fills in 
username. This is linked to any other place he fills in his username, i.e 
if it is filled in in current *Configure your session*, this field is 
already filled. (c) Below is a list based on a filter into which this 
username is transcluded, i.e it exclusively lists tiddlers where 
modifier==username.
 


- Apropos icons; am I the only one who thinks the dark cloud with 
what I assume is an arrow(?) looks more like some guy with a huuuge afro?

 If you find something better I will include it :) This one is the better 
 I found. 


Maybe analogous to unsaved document tick-circle; the white/outlined cloud 
but red instead? Maybe faint red if red is too sharp. 

:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 include external js/css in meta area

2014-12-05 Thread Jan Johannpeter

Am 20.05.2014 17:53, schrieb BJ:
to include code (ie your script references etc) in the header section, 
put the code into a tiddler and tag it with $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup.

cheers

BJ

Hi,
Thanks for the Trick, this seems to be very practical.
is there a similar one for TiddlyWikiClassic? And would it work with the 
jquery.js


many thanks Jan




On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:56:09 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote:

Hi,

I want to include my external library in TW5, however, everytime I
save TW, it overrides my script reference in the html code.

the code is inserted by me manually inside the head tag

script src=js/jquery-1.9.1.js type=text/javascript/script
script src=js/my.js type=text/javascript/script
link href=css/my.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /

...

any ideas how to solve it?
many thanks!

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[tw] Deploy tbGTD, mGSD, and dGSD on Node.js server

2014-12-05 Thread Chris Miller
Hi Folks,

I have TiddlyWiki deployed on a Node.js server. Are there any instruction 
to deploy one of tbGTD, mGSD, or dGSD on Node.js?

Thanks for the help,

Chris.

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[tw] Re: Add side bar content? (tabs)

2014-12-05 Thread Birthe C
Hi

It is explained here http://tiddlywiki.com/#TableOfContentsMacro.


Birthe

On Friday, December 5, 2014 11:50:16 PM UTC+1, juli...@att.net wrote:

 I looked at the entries in Suggestions for Learning More, but I don't see 
 a response that tells me how to add the Contents tab.  Can you identify a 
 specific response in that thread that refers specifically to that item?



 On Thursday, 17 July 2014 05:27:03 UTC+1, FAYNUS wrote:

 If you go to the main http://tiddlywiki.com you will see off to the 
 right various tabs: Open Contents Recent Tools More By default it 
 seems my tidily wiki does not offer the Contents tab. How would I go 
 about making something similar to this on my own wiki? Many thanks!



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[tw] highlightJS, VBA and apostrophes for comments

2014-12-05 Thread Thomas Hirsch
I appear to have discovered a rather annoying bug in the highlightJS plugin 
in TiddlyWiki. I am experimenting with making a small VBA reference using 
TW5. However, while I seem to be able to tag code as VBA, it doesn't render 
correctly. In VBA, comments are started with apostrophes, but in other 
languages apostrophes are used for strings, and the latter is what happens. 
As the HighlightJS demo page shows VBScript comments being rendered 
correctly, I suspect the issue is with TiddlyWiki.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Help for beginner in Node.js

2014-12-05 Thread Suzanne McHale
I am getting a similar error too (using the portable Node.js version on my 
D: drive - installed using the instructions at 
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/118970/wiki/tw5tribalknowledge.html). I 
managed to import my tiddlywiki, but all I get is an unable to connect 
error page in Firefox when I try going to http://127.0.0.1:8080/ .

D:\NodejsPortabletiddlywiki starwarrior --server

$:/core/modules/startup/story.js:122
storyList = 
$tw.hooks.invokeHook(th-opening-default-tiddlers-list,stor
yList
  ^
TypeError: Cannot call method 'invokeHook' of undefined
at openStartupTiddlers ($:/core/modules/startup/story.js:122:24)
at Object.exports.startup ($:/core/modules/startup/story.js:33:2)
at $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask 
(D:\NodejsPortable\node_modules\tiddlywik
i\boot\boot.js:1827:10)
at $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask 
(D:\NodejsPortable\node_modules\tiddlywik
i\boot\boot.js:1831:21)
at $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask 
(D:\NodejsPortable\node_modules\tiddlywik
i\boot\boot.js:1831:21)
at $tw.boot.executeNextStartupTask 
(D:\NodejsPortable\node_modules\tiddlywik
i\boot\boot.js:1831:21)
at $tw.boot.startup 
(D:\NodejsPortable\node_modules\tiddlywiki\boot\boot.js:
1793:11)
at D:\NodejsPortable\node_modules\tiddlywiki\boot\boot.js:1904:12
at $tw.boot.decryptEncryptedTiddlers 
(D:\NodejsPortable\node_modules\tiddlyw
iki\boot\boot.js:1368:2)
at $tw.boot.boot 
(D:\NodejsPortable\node_modules\tiddlywiki\boot\boot.js:190
2:11)

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[tw] Re: Add side bar content? (tabs)

2014-12-05 Thread Richard Smith
Hi,

In addition to Birthe's suggestion, if you look at the tiddler 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#TableOfContentsMacro you can see specifically how 
the table of contents is actually generated. You'll see it has the tag 
$:/tags/SideBar which is what makes it appear in the sidebar.

Regards,
Richard

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 include external js/css in meta area

2014-12-05 Thread BJ
Hi Jan,
in classic there are shadow tiddlers - MarkupPreHead and MarkupPostHead. 
Note that jquery is already include in classic tiddlywiki

cheers

BJ

On Friday, December 5, 2014 6:16:56 PM UTC-6, Jan wrote:

  Am 20.05.2014 17:53, schrieb BJ:
  
 to include code (ie your script references etc) in the header section, put 
 the code into a tiddler and tag it with $:/core/wiki/rawmarkup.
 cheers

 BJ
  
 Hi,
 Thanks for the Trick, this seems to be very practical. 
 is there a similar one for TiddlyWikiClassic? And would it work with the 
 jquery.js 

 many thanks Jan


  
 On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 1:56:09 PM UTC+1, Felix Küppers wrote: 

 Hi,

 I want to include my external library in TW5, however, everytime I save 
 TW, it overrides my script reference in the html code.

 the code is inserted by me manually inside the head tag

 script src=js/jquery-1.9.1.js type=text/javascript/script
 script src=js/my.js type=text/javascript/script
 link href=css/my.css rel=stylesheet type=text/css /

 ...

 any ideas how to solve it?
 many thanks!

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[tw] Re: Inside TiddlyWiki - IndieGoGo Fundraising update and Jump Start challenge

2014-12-05 Thread Mark Brown
As well as the book content itself, I'm looking forward to seeing how you go 
about setting up tw5 to export to the hard copy format. 

Ps. I've contributed. Go Eric. 

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[tw] Re: Add side bar content? (tabs)

2014-12-05 Thread juliabell
I now have it in the sidebar, but nothing is listed in that tab in the 
sidebar.  How do I actually populate the contents?  (I was expecting that 
all of the existing Tiddlers would automatically show up under the Contents 
tab in the sidebar.)



On Friday, December 5, 2014 5:55:31 PM UTC-8, Richard Smith wrote:

 Hi,

 In addition to Birthe's suggestion, if you look at the tiddler 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/#TableOfContentsMacro you can see specifically how 
 the table of contents is actually generated. You'll see it has the tag 
 $:/tags/SideBar which is what makes it appear in the sidebar.

 Regards,
 Richard


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