Re: [tw] Can I have Different Table Style?

[James]

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for your response.

I able to apply the class on my table, but the table header remain as 
default grey color.  Is there any way I can change it?


On Tuesday, 12 May 2015 04:06:43 UTC+8, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi James
>
> You can add a class to a table with a special row marked with a "k" like 
> this:
>
> |myclass|k
> |the |rest |of |my |table |
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:13 AM, James > 
> wrote:
>
>> The table design, especially the table header fall back to the default 
>> design "grey color" when I use the classic "@@." command to define the CSS 
>> style for my table.
>> When I define it in HTML format, ">
>> Can anyone guide me on this?
>>
>> Thanks.
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?

[Jeremy Ruston]

I've added a configuration tiddler for setting the draft tiddler typing
timeout:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/b5ad255d0c7a78392460ddf537bd0cf3ac10fe50

http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease

There's no UI at present.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 6:54 PM, Jed Carty  wrote:

> That looks like it would be pretty easy to add as a configuration option
> in the control panel. I don't think that would cause trouble, but I am not
> sure where in the control panel would be an appropriate place. We may want
> to add an advanced configuration tiddler somewhere. Probably only a link to
> it in the control panel so that it doesn't cause a lot of clutter but we
> can still have the options exposed to the user in a reasonable way.
>
> Mark,
>
> Thanks for the feedback! I have been running around getting ready to move
> so I am a bit busy. I haven't encountered the scrolling in full screen
> problem, I will look into it. I had the maximum width set on the menus
> because I made it on my desktop with a 24" monitor where it was too big
> when it was the full width, but I should change that since it won't be a
> problem on mobile devices. My little sister has my tablet for a bit so I
> won't be able to do any testing for a few days.
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi BJ,

Your instructions were easy to follow -- thanks!

Unfortunately, I'm not sure that it improved things. Actually, it may have 
been a little better turning the suggested number down (like to 4). But 
either way there was still noticeable delay when inputting information, as 
compared to inputting on a similar web app (simplenotes). Frequently I find 
I'm typing ahead -- sometimes by half a line or more. 

So, there must be something else or some other variable also at play.

Thanks!

On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 10:21:21 AM UTC-7, BJ wrote:
>
>
>1. first backup your tiddlywiki
>2. install the jsoneditor plugin from http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/
>3. find the $:/core tiddler and click on the edit icon 
>4. click on the '+' infront of the file icon within the jsonedtor, 
>(now shows 'tiddlers' folder) click on the '+' in front of the tiddlers 
>folder icon, (long list of all core shadow tiddlers appears), scroll down 
>to $:/core/modules/startup/render.js and click on the '+' in front, then 
>click on the icon in front of 'text'
>5. scroll down to the bottom the the list to find the edit pane with 
>'value:' above it. 
>6. within this edit pane find the line 'var DRAFT_TIDDLER_TIMEOUT = 
>400;' and change the 400 to 4000.
>7. click on the button 'Set value' located under the edit pane.
>8. save the (now modified) s:/core tiddler
>9. save your tw and reload
>
>
>
> On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 3:49:33 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> If you want to outline the steps that would be great. I'm sure others 
>> will be interested too!
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 12:53:26 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> It is possible to change this value by hacking the core plugin, if you 
>>> feel adventurous I can walk you through the procedure.
>>>
>>> BJ
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 6:36:43 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:

 Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're 
 trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what 
 you really care about is performance. 

 I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy 
 typing in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way 
 to dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms 
 delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to 
 increase that so that typing becomes reasonable.

 Thanks!
 Mark

 On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote:
>
> Hi Danielo
>
> Not a fair/correct statement...
> @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major 
> improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. 
>
> Check them out.
>
> Cheers Måns Mårtensson 
>

  

>
> Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez:
>>
>> Hello Mark, 
>>
>> Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile 
>> devices, even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile 
>> environment. 
>
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Re: [tw] Can I have Different Table Style?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi James

You can add a class to a table with a special row marked with a "k" like
this:

|myclass|k
|the |rest |of |my |table |

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 3:13 AM, James  wrote:

> The table design, especially the table header fall back to the default
> design "grey color" when I use the classic "@@." command to define the CSS
> style for my table.
> When I define it in HTML format, "
> Can anyone guide me on this?
>
> Thanks.
>
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[tw] Re: [TW5 Learning] A "Good to Start With" list - please come with input

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mat

>
> BTW, have we ever tried to run a Google Doc parallel with the hangout,
> open for anyone to annotate in?
>

We've talked about it but I don't think ever done it.

Something related that's crossed my mind is for me to create a tiddlyspot
for each hangout with the agenda, that I live update with links etc. during
the hangout. Then we could add the video embed and Mario's annotations.

A nice side effect would be that each hangout wiki would be a snapshot of
the state of TiddlyWiki itself at the time of each hangout.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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> <:-)
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[tw] Re: [TW5 Workflow] The Stealth NewHere Method! PLEASE READ

[Jed Carty]

The error with the edit title and recent tab come from the same thing. The 
locked field of $:/state/FastNewTiddler was set. This meant that changing 
the title field changed the temporary title state, not the state of any 
actual tiddler, and putting text into the text editor was trying to edit a 
tiddler with no title. To fix this problem we may have to put some action 
widgets that clear the locked field in a few places. I think that one in 
the page toolbar that opens the fast new tiddler interface may be enough, 
but putting one on the close button of the fast new tiddler popup may be a 
good idea also.

One other bug that should be added to the todo list is if you have the 
tiddler you are editing visible and you change the name than the visible 
tiddler gets deleted but the new one doesn't get opened.

To prevent the delete button from deleting the FNT tiddler when no title is 
entered replace the delete button with this:

<$reveal type='nomatch' state={{$:/temp/FastNewTiddler!!newtitle}} text=''>
  <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" message='tm-delete-tiddler' 
param={{$:/temp/FastNewTiddler!!newtitle}}>
{{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
  

<$reveal type='match' state={{$:/temp/FastNewTiddler!!newtitle}} text=''>
  <$button class="tc-btn-invisible">
{{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
  


that will make the delete button do nothing unless there is actually 
something to delete.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?

[BJ]

# first backup your tiddlywiki
# install the jsoneditor plugin from http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/
# find the $:/core tiddler and click on the edit icon 
# click on the '+' infront of the file icon within the jsonedtor, (now 
shows 'tiddlers' folder) click on the '+' in front of the tiddlers folder 
icon, (long list of all core shadow tiddlers appears), scroll down to 
$:/core/modules/startup/render.js and click on the '+' in front, then click 
on the icon in front of 'text'
# scroll down to the bottom the the list to find the edit pane with 
'value:' above it. 
# within this edit pane find the line 'var DRAFT_TIDDLER_TIMEOUT = 400;' 
and change the 400 to 4000.
# click on the button 'Set value' located under the edit pane.
# save the (now modified) s:/core tiddler
# save your tw and reload

On Monday, May 11, 2015 at 3:49:33 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi BJ,
>
> If you want to outline the steps that would be great. I'm sure others will 
> be interested too!
>
> Mark
>
> On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 12:53:26 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote:
>>
>> It is possible to change this value by hacking the core plugin, if you 
>> feel adventurous I can walk you through the procedure.
>>
>> BJ
>>
>> On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 6:36:43 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're 
>>> trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what 
>>> you really care about is performance. 
>>>
>>> I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy 
>>> typing in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way 
>>> to dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms 
>>> delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to 
>>> increase that so that typing becomes reasonable.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote:

 Hi Danielo

 Not a fair/correct statement...
 @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major 
 improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. 

 Check them out.

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson 

>>>
>>>  
>>>

 Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez:
>
> Hello Mark, 
>
> Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, 
> even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. 



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[tw] Re: Is an inside out TiddlyWiki possible?

[Dave]

 My holy grail would be tiddlers as text files in one folder with one or 
more TWs as front ends that could access them.  I've intended to dive 
deeper into the node.js (can't remember why it didn't work for me when I 
tried it a year ago or so) option.  

I think at some point I discovered that you can trigger bash scripts from 
TW that could theoretically search the file system (find, grep etc (I 
mainly use Linux)) but I don't know how you'd get the info back into the 
TW.  Using the bash script method you could even edit files in a separate 
system text editor if you wanted, and then you'd just have to reload the 
tiddler once that was done.

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[tw] Re: [TW5 Learning] A "Good to Start With" list - please come with input

[Mat]

>
> * We may want to declassify some of these concepts to keep the overall 
> number down; it's quite overwhelming at the moment.
> ** For example "InfoList" could perhaps be tagged "Features" instead of 
> "Concepts", as it doesn't really introduce any new mental concepts
> * We may want to separate out the "advanced" concepts, again the keep the 
> main list reasonable
>

Keeping the number down may be a good idea generally to not overwhelm 
people but, of course, from this lists point of view it is more a matter of 
highlighting what is worth studying or knowing about regardless of amount 
or of how it is categorized.

  

> I'll respond over on GitHub to the issue
>

Looking forward to it. 

 

> > Another proposal is a themed Hangout, dedicated to the Concepts,
>
> That could be a good idea. I'd certainly be interested to explore a 
> hangout that was structured in that way.
>

Great! I think it makes sense also from a reference point; In spite of 
Marios fantastic job with annotating the hangouts, I think it may still be 
a bit tricky for users to find info. I think a hangout like this 
would/could work more as a direct reference source.

On a related note I just created an issue 
 concerning Marios 
annotations and tw.com.

BTW, have we ever tried to run a Google Doc parallel with the hangout, open 
for anyone to annotate in?

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Problems with TiddlyWiki presuming that I have missing tiddlers and how to remove them

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Stefan

The sample I sent you was done by : Download empty tiddlywiki from main
> website. Import zip file (in chrome). Let me know if you need any info
> about the versions of chrome / windows 7 / etc.
>

How did you save the file after importing the zip file? You should use the
"save changes" button in the right hand sidebar of TiddlyWiki.

You'll see if you open the HTML file that you get a "doubled" sidebar on
the right, with two copies of each element slightly overlapping one
another. None of the tabs or buttons work.

Best wishes

Jeremy



>
> Regards,
> Stefan Szekeres
>
> On 11 May 2015 at 16:58, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>
>> Hi Stefan
>>
>> Apologies for the late reply. The samples you've sent look as though they
>> have been saved from Firefox using the File/Save menu item. That is a big
>> problem: it actually saves a corrupted TiddlyWiki file that doesn't include
>> the latest changes. Have you still got a copy of the file that was saved in
>> the usual way? (ie, by clicking the "save changes" button in the sidebar)
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Stefan Szekeres <
>> stefan.szeke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeremy,
>>> the type field : application/zip
>>>
>>> Attached is an empty tiddly + the problematic tiddler.
>>>
>>> Thank you, let me know what you find, maybe a commit when you have the
>>> time, i'm curious what needs to be changed to fix this.
>>>
>>> A great day,
>>> Stefan Szekeres
>>>
>>> On 5 May 2015 at 23:59, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Stefan

 > I can e-mail it to you if you think it's necessary.

 Before you do, can you just confirm the value of the "type" field of
 the ZIP tiddler?

 Many thanks,

 Jeremy

 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Stefan Szekeres <
 stefan.szeke...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jeremy,
>
> I'm using 5.1.8 on the standard node.js setup. I can e-mail it to you
> if you think it's necessary.
>
> Regards,
>
> Stefan
>
> On 4 May 2015 at 22:57, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>
>> Hi Stefan
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Stefan Szekeres <
>> stefan.szeke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi guys, currently I'm having the same problem with a zip file that
>>> i imported, in the missing tiddlers side view, there are all the BASE64
>>> strings with camelCase from the contents of the zip file. Added
>>> the excludeMissing tag, but didn't work.
>>>
>>
>> What version of TiddlyWiki are you using? I couldn't reproduce the
>> problem with 5.1.8.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 10:52:37 UTC+3, Mark C wrote:

 Thanks. That's perfect. I'm not worried about any real missing
 links in
 the text of the tiddler as there aren't any.

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Re: [tw] Re: Problems with TiddlyWiki presuming that I have missing tiddlers and how to remove them

[Stefan Szekeres]

Hi Jeremy,

This is how I made the file corrupted : Follow instructions from main site
to install node.js with an empty tiddlywiki. (I only worked with chrome).
Import zip file.

The sample I sent you was done by : Download empty tiddlywiki from main
website. Import zip file (in chrome). Let me know if you need any info
about the versions of chrome / windows 7 / etc.

Regards,
Stefan Szekeres

On 11 May 2015 at 16:58, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:

> Hi Stefan
>
> Apologies for the late reply. The samples you've sent look as though they
> have been saved from Firefox using the File/Save menu item. That is a big
> problem: it actually saves a corrupted TiddlyWiki file that doesn't include
> the latest changes. Have you still got a copy of the file that was saved in
> the usual way? (ie, by clicking the "save changes" button in the sidebar)
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Stefan Szekeres  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeremy,
>> the type field : application/zip
>>
>> Attached is an empty tiddly + the problematic tiddler.
>>
>> Thank you, let me know what you find, maybe a commit when you have the
>> time, i'm curious what needs to be changed to fix this.
>>
>> A great day,
>> Stefan Szekeres
>>
>> On 5 May 2015 at 23:59, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stefan
>>>
>>> > I can e-mail it to you if you think it's necessary.
>>>
>>> Before you do, can you just confirm the value of the "type" field of the
>>> ZIP tiddler?
>>>
>>> Many thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Stefan Szekeres <
>>> stefan.szeke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Jeremy,

 I'm using 5.1.8 on the standard node.js setup. I can e-mail it to you
 if you think it's necessary.

 Regards,

 Stefan

 On 4 May 2015 at 22:57, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:

> Hi Stefan
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Stefan Szekeres <
> stefan.szeke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi guys, currently I'm having the same problem with a zip file that i
>> imported, in the missing tiddlers side view, there are all the BASE64
>> strings with camelCase from the contents of the zip file. Added
>> the excludeMissing tag, but didn't work.
>>
>
> What version of TiddlyWiki are you using? I couldn't reproduce the
> problem with 5.1.8.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 10:52:37 UTC+3, Mark C wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks. That's perfect. I'm not worried about any real missing links
>>> in
>>> the text of the tiddler as there aren't any.
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 TiddlyWiki processing while typing?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi BJ,

If you want to outline the steps that would be great. I'm sure others will 
be interested too!

Mark

On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 12:53:26 PM UTC-7, BJ wrote:
>
> It is possible to change this value by hacking the core plugin, if you 
> feel adventurous I can walk you through the procedure.
>
> BJ
>
> On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 6:36:43 PM UTC+1, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Cosmetic tweaks are nice and certainly appreciated, but when you're 
>> trying to type on a small screen (which can already be challenging) what 
>> you really care about is performance. 
>>
>> I rarely care what is going on in the rest of the TW when I'm busy typing 
>> in input. I don't need things updating in the background. So a way to 
>> dial-back the responsiveness would be very helpful. I figure the 400ms 
>> delay is already built in some place in the system. There must be a way to 
>> increase that so that typing becomes reasonable.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Mark
>>
>> On Saturday, May 9, 2015 at 5:25:59 AM UTC-7, Måns wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Danielo
>>>
>>> Not a fair/correct statement...
>>> @Jed's new mobile theme and @Matabele's floating sidebar are major 
>>> improvements which helps when using TiddlyWiki on mobile devices. 
>>>
>>> Check them out.
>>>
>>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson 
>>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> Den lørdag den 9. maj 2015 kl. 13.14.45 UTC+2 skrev Danielo Rodríguez:

 Hello Mark, 

 Seems that the entire TW community has forgotten about mobile devices, 
 even after Jeremy said that he is very interested on mobile environment. 
>>>
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Re: [tw] Re: Problems with TiddlyWiki presuming that I have missing tiddlers and how to remove them

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Stefan

Apologies for the late reply. The samples you've sent look as though they
have been saved from Firefox using the File/Save menu item. That is a big
problem: it actually saves a corrupted TiddlyWiki file that doesn't include
the latest changes. Have you still got a copy of the file that was saved in
the usual way? (ie, by clicking the "save changes" button in the sidebar)

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Stefan Szekeres 
wrote:

> Hi Jeremy,
> the type field : application/zip
>
> Attached is an empty tiddly + the problematic tiddler.
>
> Thank you, let me know what you find, maybe a commit when you have the
> time, i'm curious what needs to be changed to fix this.
>
> A great day,
> Stefan Szekeres
>
> On 5 May 2015 at 23:59, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>
>> Hi Stefan
>>
>> > I can e-mail it to you if you think it's necessary.
>>
>> Before you do, can you just confirm the value of the "type" field of the
>> ZIP tiddler?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:45 AM, Stefan Szekeres <
>> stefan.szeke...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeremy,
>>>
>>> I'm using 5.1.8 on the standard node.js setup. I can e-mail it to you if
>>> you think it's necessary.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Stefan
>>>
>>> On 4 May 2015 at 22:57, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Stefan

 On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Stefan Szekeres <
 stefan.szeke...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys, currently I'm having the same problem with a zip file that i
> imported, in the missing tiddlers side view, there are all the BASE64
> strings with camelCase from the contents of the zip file. Added
> the excludeMissing tag, but didn't work.
>

 What version of TiddlyWiki are you using? I couldn't reproduce the
 problem with 5.1.8.

 Best wishes

 Jeremy.


>
>
> On Wednesday, 2 August 2006 10:52:37 UTC+3, Mark C wrote:
>>
>> Thanks. That's perfect. I'm not worried about any real missing links
>> in
>> the text of the tiddler as there aren't any.
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[tw] Re: [TW5 Learning] A "Good to Start With" list - please come with input

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mat

Very interesting. A few thoughts:

* We may want to declassify some of these concepts to keep the overall
number down; it's quite overwhelming at the moment.
** For example "InfoList" could perhaps be tagged "Features" instead of
"Concepts", as it doesn't really introduce any new mental concepts
* We may want to separate out the "advanced" concepts, again the keep the
main list reasonable

> BTW, that list in the tiddler Concepts would be more informative if there
really was a brief description next to each item a bit like here (...but
more formal). The description could be a transclusion of the summative
introductory paragraph that typically exist in those tiddlers, or if they
have a summary field or such. I posted a github isse.

I'll respond over on GitHub to the issue

> Another proposal is a themed Hangout, dedicated to the Concepts, with Big
J and the wizards talking about the concepts in a general sense. (I could
pretend to NOT be an expert grandmaster hacker and ask the dumb questions,
almost as if I didn't know how to code. I can be a very convincing actor in
this role.)

That could be a good idea. I'd certainly be interested to explore a hangout
that was structured in that way.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Mat  wrote:

> As a part of a greater "Learning TW" project (if "project" is the right
> word?), here is an introductory run through of the identified Concepts
>  in TW.
>
> Please help to improve it - not only the factual errors that I *for sure* am
> making, but also to make it generally to make it a valuable list for
> newcomers.
>
>
> It is intended as a "priority list" that newcomers can reference. And that
> *we* can reference newcomers *to*.
>
> I have selected the "concepts" as a good starting point (...after the
> newcomer has read the very introductory material, and played around a bit)
> as opposed to, say, a listing like the Definitions
>  or Features
>  because learning about the
> Concepts is more close to *mastering* TW. It is also not as specific as,
> say, a study in FilterOperators
> . BTW, listings
> such as FilterOperators serve more as a reference than as learning material
> but I'm very happy to note that this list has added notes about which are
> the most common operators.
>
> Apropos "Reference material" vs "Learning material"; Note that the listed
> comments below are intentionally NOT presented a perfect structure but
> instead in a semi-verbose style that convey *relative* importance *better*
> than a strict factual format does. This is a typical major difference
> between official reference material and e.g learning in a more live
> context. But of course, it must not be factually false.
>
>
> I will update this post with your input.
>
>
> *A subjective Good to Start With list*
>
> *Target audience*:
> New to TW and not particularly competent coder. (I'm limited to this
> audience because of my own competence on the matter. With your help I hope
> the target audience can widen.)
>
> Recommended reading for beginners are marked with *Beginner.* Concepts
> with *Fundamental* or *Useful* can also be good to study but perhaps at
> other levels. The comments typically refer to *the topic of* the listed
> tiddler, not the tiddler itself... even if the tiddler itself probably is
> the best starting point for closer study.
>
>
>- ColourPalettes  -
>Advanced. Limited use (but of course the term ColorPalette and its end-use
>are basic)
>- Commands  - Advanced.
>Concerns the node.js version, and probably fundamental there.
>- Current Tiddler  -
>Intermediate. Useful. For the special, but frequent, case when code needs
>to refer to "this" tiddler
>- DataTiddlers  -
>Advanced. Probably very useful.
>- Date Fields  -
>Intermediate. Limited use. In addition to the three default fields
>"title","tags" and "text", you can add a date field specialized for showing
>dates.
>- DictionaryTiddlers
> - Advanced.
>General use. Tiddlers listing "name:value" pairs.
>- Dominant Append  -
>Advanced kink. Specific filter technique.
>- ExternalImages  -
>Beginner. Useful. Note it's a concept, not just a term for using external
>images.
>- Filter Operators
> - Fundamental.
>The "actions" used in filters.
>- Filters 

Re: [tw] [TW5] <$list filter= looks like text. where is my mistake?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Sini-Kit


Hi, Jeremy! Is there any way to put $list filter into $list filter ? I try
> many variants with $set, define and so on. and I always get the same
> result. I saw my list as text.  I think it must be a standard way to put to
> temp tiddler rendered result (ore something else), but I can't find it.
>

I'm not sure that I understand exactly what you're asking. When nesting
list widgets, one uses the "variable" attribute to save the outer list
index:

<$list filter="[tags[]sort[title]]" variable="theTag">

The tag is: <$text text=<>/>

<$list filter="">

Tag: <$text text="currentTiddler"/>




But I suspect that's not quite what you mean.

You can assign the result of a filter to a variable using the "set" widget:

<$set name="myVariable" filter="[tag[Introduction]]">

But it isn't currently possible to use the entries in the list within a
filter.

Best wishes

Jeremy



>
> четверг, 7 мая 2015 г., 21:35:21 UTC+3 пользователь Jeremy Ruston написал:
>>
>> Hi sini-Kit
>>
>> You've got an unterminated widget here:
>>
>>
>>> here is the whole code of my macros
>>> 
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[is[current]tagging[]tag[$:/Note]sort[stoimost]]
>>> -
>>> <$list filter="[[$:/_allvendors]fields[]sort[]]"
>>> variable="fieldName"><$macrocall $name="inner" fieldName=<>/
>>> >
>>>  "> 
>>>{{||$:/_tile}}  
>>>
>>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5 Workflow] The Stealth NewHere Method! PLEASE READ

[Mat]

On Sunday, May 10, 2015 at 12:48:52 AM UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Maybe I'm just catching it on a bad day, but when I type a title into the 
> title box and fill in the other fields, nothing appears over in the 
> "recent" tab.Also, there is no little hand icon for changing the title. 
>

I'm afraid this happened a few days ago to me too so I carefully removed 
and reloaded each tiddler, on fastnewdev.tiddlyspot.com, and got it to 
function properly... but it seems to have "reverted". I have no idea why 
and it must be a bug - @Jed, do you think you could take a look at it?

 

> If it it did work, I would wonder how it knows when you're  finished 
> writing a title. Maybe when you leave the field?
>

Currently, you must manually click the Retitle button again to deactivate 
it. But you idea is very good and is a point 

 
in the ToDo list 
. My 
reasoning is that it should not be when you not just leave the field but 
when you go to, specifically, either of the tag fields or the text field 
because you should be allowed to retitle and e.g scroll down the sidebar to 
take a look at some other title, only to continue to retitle.

Do you by any chance have any idea for how to do achieve this? How is focus 
set to various things? (Setting focus is also also relevant for the 
intended "tab-key jump cycle 
"
 
for fastnewtiddler. I created a related github issue 
 for this.)


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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] The NewtiddlerWidget

[Matthew Petty]

Thanks! That did it.

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>
>
>
>> Is there a way to tag the newly created tiddler with the current tiddler?
>>
>
> Yes, under the More button (the downpointing arrow/bracket), simply click
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> directly, via Controlpanel>Appearance>Toolbars>ViewToolbar
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[tw] Re: [TW5] The NewtiddlerWidget

[Mat]

Please note that it is a very old thread you are replying to, @Matthew.

 

> Is there a way to tag the newly created tiddler with the current tiddler?
>

Yes, under the More button (the downpointing arrow/bracket), simply click 
"new here". You can also make this button appear in the tiddler toolbar 
directly, via Controlpanel>Appearance>Toolbars>ViewToolbar

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[tw] Re: [TW5] The NewtiddlerWidget

[Matthew Petty]

Thanks for creating this!
I use this to create tasks. Is there a way to tag the newly created tiddler 
with the current tiddler?

Also, the "edit=yes" doesn't seem to work for me.

On Thursday, December 19, 2013 at 7:25:03 PM UTC+4, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> Nope!
>
> It does not do what I want.
>
>
>1. It can't change the title
>2. It cant' change field values
>3. It can't change the text
>4. It can#t change the type
>5. It can't add tags
>6. …
>
>
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[tw] [TW5] Button to create new task tagged with current tiddler?

[Matthew Petty]

I use a button to create task tiddlers. It uses a TaskSkeleton to create 
consistently formatted tiddlers.
I want to add a button to the skeleton which would create a new task, 
tagged with the current task, which would also use the TaskSkeleton.
The "new here" button just creates a new empty tiddler, and it's only 
accessible in view mode.

I think it's just a case of making a new task creation button, based on the 
current one. Here's TaskButton:
<$let tag1="journal" text="">
<$newtiddler title=<> 
skeleton="TaskSkeleton" edit="yes">Create Task "<>"


What could I add to that to tag the new task with the tiddler that 
displayed this button?

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