[tw] Re: [TW5] Import a CSV file... how actually?

[Jed Carty]

I made a tool to make tiddler schools (didn't someone come up with a better 
word for that a while ago? I can't remember.). You give a filter and a name 
and it creates a tiddler that contains all the information for all the 
tiddlers returned by the filter. You can then import that tiddler into 
another wiki and use the widget I made (action-import-tiddlers) to unpack 
the imported tiddlers.

There is a demo here . 
There is a bug that I can't track down, if you try to make a school using 
the filter [tag[Filter Operators]] or [tag[Messages]] you get a too much 
recursion error. I can't figure out why and I haven't found any other bugs 
so far. I am sure there are plenty though, so play with it and try to break 
it. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

[David Gifford]

Absolutely brilliant. There have been times I really needed something like 
this. Thanks Jed!

Dave

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 7:54:02 AM UTC-6, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> A while ago there was a lot of discussion about making things like 
> mini-plugins that are just for easily moving groups of tiddlers from one 
> wiki to another. Prompted by Mats questions over here 
>  I 
> finally got around to making a way to do this.
>
> It has two parts:
>
> First, a purely wkitext tool that lets you give a filter and a name, it 
> then packs all of the tiddlers returned by the filter into a school tiddler 
> with the given name.
>
> Second, after importing a school into your wiki you use the 
> action-import-school widget to take the information contained in the school 
> and unpack it into tiddlers.
>
> Some differences between this and plugins:
>
> There is no version control here
> All tiddlers are normal tiddlers, there are no shadow tiddlers created
> There is no need to reload your wiki after importing a tiddler school
>
> So far I have found one bug that I can't track down. If you try to make a 
> school on tiddlywiki.com using either the filter '[tag[Messages]] or 
> [tag[Filter Operator]] it gives a too much recursion error. I can't figure 
> out why because I haven't run into other filters that give the same error.
>
> The demo site with the tools is here 
> .
>
> Let me know if you have any suggestions or find any bugs.
>

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[tw] [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

[Jed Carty]

A while ago there was a lot of discussion about making things like 
mini-plugins that are just for easily moving groups of tiddlers from one 
wiki to another. Prompted by Mats questions over here 
 I finally 
got around to making a way to do this.

It has two parts:

First, a purely wkitext tool that lets you give a filter and a name, it 
then packs all of the tiddlers returned by the filter into a school tiddler 
with the given name.

Second, after importing a school into your wiki you use the 
action-import-school widget to take the information contained in the school 
and unpack it into tiddlers.

Some differences between this and plugins:

There is no version control here
All tiddlers are normal tiddlers, there are no shadow tiddlers created
There is no need to reload your wiki after importing a tiddler school

So far I have found one bug that I can't track down. If you try to make a 
school on tiddlywiki.com using either the filter '[tag[Messages]] or 
[tag[Filter Operator]] it gives a too much recursion error. I can't figure 
out why because I haven't run into other filters that give the same error.

The demo site with the tools is here 
.

Let me know if you have any suggestions or find any bugs.

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[tw] Re: Making more editions - how?

[Jed Carty]

I am not sure what your last question means. You may be interested in 
looking at the tiddlertool 
 I made to see how I 
dealt with searching for field names as a reference. Also for forms do you 
mean something like this 

?

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[tw] Toc sorted by creation

[K0ertis]

Hi! I am using TW5 and I struggle with the table of contents.
I want to create a toc which sorts all journals by its creating date and 
not its title. 
The last created ones should be placed on top and I dont want to name 
journals by its date.


My Toc from last year:
2015
*December
** note 31dez
** note 1dez
*November
*October

and so on

so far i have this:

<>


Thanks,

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New plugin: tobibeer/filter

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Mat,
 

> Joking aside; regarding "avoiding nested list widgets" - does your plugin 
> "merely" provide a smoother interface or does it really somehow circumvent 
> to nest lists? I mean, I don't doubt your plugin is preferable to nesting 
> lists but does it also improve performance compared to standard?
>

It evaluates however many filters and subfilters as you want in one filter 
expression. Obviously, that can have a performance impact, but no more than 
doing the same using nested widgets, presumably less... for obvious 
reasons. Also, something like sorting nested lists is quite a different 
thing than sorting one result list... isn't it? ;-)
 

> BTW, I'll be using this on TWaddle where I have some expensive list'o 
> lists. Thank you!
>

Great... let us know how that goes or if you should get stuck.

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Toc sorted by creation

[Tobias Beer]

Hi K0ertis,

Are you sure that the tiddler *2016*
is the root tiddler of a tagging tree?

Best wishes,

Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Making more editions - how?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Mat,
 

> Now, I can't fully follow the syntax - e.g how does the placeholder 
> %inputTitle% know the the term inputTitle? Is this a hardcoded keyword?
>

Yes, and it's a variable that is set to each input title in turn when the 
subfilter is evaluated against it ...unless you'd declare a custom variable 
in the suffix like so:

a b c +[filter: var:foo]

..then this variable *foo* will be set instead ...first to *a*, then to *b* 
and finally to *c*. 

...but, more importantly for the OP, I'm wondering this also search the 
> field name itself, or only the field value?
>

There is no filter yet that matches some substring of a field, yet.

I think the *has* filter operator  can 
and should be amended to cater for basic wildcards, e.g.:

   - has:prefix-*[]
   - has:*-suffix[] 

Does "found for the fields" mean "found in the field values for..." or 
> perhaps both "found in the field titles and/or the field values for..."
>

It means "in the field value" ...not the field names.
The field-names simply specify in which fields to search
not which field-names to search for.
 

> As you know, normal search does search both the tiddler titles and the 
> text fields - and even top-ranks title hits - so it would be very good if 
> this was also the case with your method!
>

You can always construct cascaded filters where one field gets added first 
and some other(s) later.
 
Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Temp Tiddlers and Form Updating Question

[David Allen]

I have a few forms I'm using that have basic text boxes where you can enter 
a string of text and the form saves the string somewhere.  If I have the 
text box store its contents in a field in the containing tiddler, I have to 
type the string I want to input one character at a time, as any change in 
the fields of the tiddler causes the screen to de-focus from the text box.  
The only workaround I've found so far is to store the string in a temp 
tiddler:

<$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/genericname" tag="input" default="name"/>

This works fine in most situations.  Here is one where it does not.

I have a form where I can quickly and easily add a tiddler for a character 
(person, not text).  One of the fields in this form is the character's 
name.  What I'm trying to do is make the form show a button that would 
allow me to add the new character tiddler if said tiddler doesn't exist, 
and the string "Already Exists" if it does, but not both at the same time.  
This prevents me from accidentally overwriting an existing character if I 
put a name that's already been used.  It's close to working, but I have a 
major problem.

Let's say I made a character named John Doe using the form, and he didn't 
exist before I used the form.  Let's also say I have a character named Jane 
Doe already made.  At the moment, the form has the name John Doe in its 
name input and, since John Doe didn't exist before-hand, the button 
allowing me to add him is visible.  If I change the name to Jane Doe, the 
button isn't updated and, if pressed, overwrites Jane Doe.

I think the problem is that the form isn't updating the containing tiddler 
when I type a string into the name input.  I say this because the form has 
two selection boxes that modify fields in the containing tiddler, and when 
those are modified, the button updates correctly.

*I think what I need is a way to update a field in the containing tiddler 
using a text box that doesn't require me typing the input 
character-by-character.*  If I can find that, this problem should be fixed.

Here's the relevant code:

Name: <$edit-text tiddler="$:/temp/genericname" tag="input" default="name" 
/>

<$setvars _moo="<

<$set name=thebutton value='
<$button> Add Character
<$action-setfield $tiddler="Template: Generic Character" 
title={{$:/temp/genericname}}/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler={{$:/temp/genericname}} text=<>/>
'>

<$set name=addifsafe 
filter="[prefix{$:/temp/genericname}suffix{$:/temp/genericname}tag[character]]" 
value="Already Exists" emptyValue=<>>

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The image field that's used in the setvars widget is set using a selection 
box.  It works fine.
The first set widget sets the value of a variable named thebutton to code 
that makes a button.  This part works fine.
The second set widget that sets addifsafe is the problem.

Doing both prefix and suffix was the only workaround I found to get a 
tiddler with a specific title without returning a link to a missing tiddler 
if said title wasn't found (this is what title[] and putting the tiddler 
name in directly seem to do).  If there's a better way to do this, please 
let me know.

Since the prefix and suffix parameters both use the temp tiddler, rather 
than a field in the containing tiddler, the second set widget doesn't get 
updated when the name text-box does.  This creates the aforementioned 
problem.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

[Jed Carty]

@Jeremy,

The way I have been thinking about things is that plugins are a more or 
less permanent collection of tiddlers where you want consistent behaviour 
or information. So pretty much how plugins exist now, hopefully with more 
things like Erics book added.

With the tiddler schools I just want to make a quick and easy way to 
transfer tiddlers between wikis. So if someone wanted to pull off all the 
tiddlers the reference tiddlers from tiddlywiki.com into their own wiki 
they would be able to use the advanced search and get a link that they can 
drag and drop into their own wiki to import all the tiddlers at the same 
time. My goal is just to make moving lots of tiddlers easily. My motivation 
is from things like the interactive fiction thing I made and the SVG 
graphic tool I am working on where sharing anything requires moving lots of 
tiddlers from wiki to wiki. The only way what I made is any better than 
exporting as json is that it doesn't require you to download the json as an 
intermediate step. I am planning on making the unpacking process remove the 
school tiddler by default.

As far as json or other formats, I think that they would be used for 
applications where computer readable formats are important. I don't think 
that comes up as often. Someone had asked about making a wiki that had the 
bible split up into verses that were properly labeled and searchable with 
chapter, verse, etc. Making a json file in the correct form to import into 
tiddlywiki from that just took a simple perl script. I think that is the 
main use for json or other formats.

@Mat

Draw ui ideas, if nothing else it is interesting to see what other people 
are thinking. And schools to fit with schools of fish to go with the 
tiddler name. I will go with a better name if anyone suggests one.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

[Mat]

@Jed Carty wrote:
 

> schools to fit with schools of fish to go with the tiddler name. I will go 
> with a better name if anyone suggests one.
>

Aaah, shoal! Which I just learnt can also be called school! Thank you - I 
had no idea. (I think I even got an additional aspect of Finding Nemo now.) 
Ok, may I humbly suggest perhaps "tiddler *bundles*" or packets or some 
such? Or I fear many non-native Enlighs people will just not understand. 
Just a suggestion.


[...]I am planning on making the unpacking process remove the school 
> tiddler by default.
>


   - For such a "quick" version I'd like it if one didn't have to come up 
   with a name for the bun... school. It could perhaps have a default name if 
   none is entered?
   - In the intro to the plugin, may I suggest you state it's a "two part 
   plugin - one for bundling and one for unbundling"
   

As far as json or other formats, I think that they would be used for 
> applications where computer readable formats are important. I don't think 
> that comes up as often. 
>

Well, for the unbundling part of the plugin it would be good if it could 
manage JSON and e.g CSV. As noted in another thread, it is unclear how to 
import non-tiddly data. LibreOffice (and I guess most spreadsheets) have a 
limited set of output formats where CSV seems to be common. I believe also 
XML, btw.
Handling something like this woudl open up for extra usefulness of the 
plugin. Of course, I think this would be a natural feature in the TW import 
function...


Draw ui ideas, if nothing else it is interesting to see what other people 
> are thinking. 


Ok.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New plugin: tobibeer/filter

[cmari]

Here's what I did:
Clicked the link to "Search Multiple Fields with a Subfilter" in this 
thread:
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7152daf5-f0f0-4282-9167-806f96106655%40googlegroups.com
 


At the top of the tiddler, I clicked the word "filter" in the sentence
*how to evaluate subfilters using the operator filter 
 to search multiple fields 
at once, optionally using the split 
 filter*

This took me to a tiddler with an Info tab. First text in that tab is:
The plugin $:/plugins/tobibeer/filter 
 
provides:

I dragged that link into an empty 5.1.10 TW, saved, and reloaded.

Then I created a new tiddler and pasted in the text of the first example in 
"Search Multiple Fields with a Subfilter". I changed the search term so it 
would find something in my file.
While editing, I clicked the "show preview" button. 
Removing the space in front of either of the plus signs (+) in the example 
produced the "Well this is embarrassing" error.

Hope that's clear!
cmari

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 12:30:54 PM UTC-8, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
>  Hi cmari,
>
> I think the link in the summary field inside your example tiddler "Search 
>> Multiple Fields with a Subfilter" still goes to the earlier version of the 
>> filter plugin? (I got javascript errors).
>
>
> Not sure what might have happened there. I tested Chrome and FF and get no 
> errors. Can you give more details when the error occurs?
>  
>
>> One other comment (bearing in mind I'm a non-expert): after reading the 
>> preface to the examples, I initially thought the search term was going to 
>> be the word "filter" itself (that's how I interpreted " using the filter 
>> operator *filter* to search for the word filter "). 
>>
>
> Oh, sorry. That must have been quite confusing. Fixed.
>
> It might help clarify things to state explicitly that in all of the 
>> examples the term being searched for is the word "Evaluate" (I think!).
>>
>
> Yes, that is correct. I have updated the example so now they probably make 
> a lot more sense. ;-)
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias. 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New plugin: tobibeer/filter

[Tobias Beer]

 Hi cmari,

I think the link in the summary field inside your example tiddler "Search 
> Multiple Fields with a Subfilter" still goes to the earlier version of the 
> filter plugin? (I got javascript errors).


Not sure what might have happened there. I tested Chrome and FF and get no 
errors. Can you give more details when the error occurs?
 

> One other comment (bearing in mind I'm a non-expert): after reading the 
> preface to the examples, I initially thought the search term was going to 
> be the word "filter" itself (that's how I interpreted " using the filter 
> operator *filter* to search for the word filter "). 
>

Oh, sorry. That must have been quite confusing. Fixed.

It might help clarify things to state explicitly that in all of the 
> examples the term being searched for is the word "Evaluate" (I think!).
>

Yes, that is correct. I have updated the example so now they probably make 
a lot more sense. ;-)

Best wishes,

Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Conditional Caption

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Andrew,

May I suggest not to use the system tag *$:/tags/favorite* to make a 
tiddler is a favorite?
It's just... that looks rather ugly... and should be reserved to system 
*components*.
Why not just use a tag called ★ or Favorites?

Also, why hide the favorite button once a tiddler is a favorite,
rather than highlight the button as if active?

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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[tw] Re: Temp Tiddlers and Form Updating Question

[Jed Carty]

I have an example in my new post form on my site here 
.
You use reveal widgets. It comes up a lot in forms in what I make. The 
general form is like this:

<$edit-text tiddler='$:/temp/Some Tiddler' field='some_field' 
class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>

<$reveal type=match state='$:/temp/Some Tiddler!!some_field' text=''>
Enter a name first


<$reveal type=nomatch state='$:/temp/Some Tiddler!!some_field' text=''>
<$list filter='[{$:/temp/Some Tiddler!!some_field}!has[title]]' 
emptyMessage='Already Exists'>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

[Jed Carty]

I have poked it a bit more and it looks like because the way I made it it 
can't pack more than around 10 tiddler together without an error. I am 
looking into it.

Other than that it seems to work as expected. I should be able to put 
something together to make it work.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

[Mat]

...Follow up to my previous input;


   - I propose to include a note that unpacking (unschooling?) a tiddler 
   that already exists will overwrite the existing one.
   - The list field - is it only for the pupropse of showing the import 
   tiddler list (i.e the button stating Show Import Tiddler List)?
   I'm thinking maybe it could be used instead of the 
   funnyandridiculouslylongseparator, i.e using "title:" to be 
   the separator but that would require that when they're packed, they put 
   that field first in the tiddlers internal display of the fields.
   ...plus it might mean that a tiddler can't contain that textstring?
   - May I humbly ask that the long separator is just a few characters 
   shorter so it doesn't linewrap? Or just a more traditional separator,hehe 
   ;-)

<:-)

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 5:01:24 PM UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> @Jed - now this is TERRIFIQUE!
>
> (I'm answering on this here instead of in the other thread of ours.)
>
> Let me know if you have any suggestions
>>
>
> *I'm getting some images popping up in my mind from this with UI ideas 
> etc. Should I draw them?
>
> *Out of curiousity - why is it called Schools? Am I missing something?
>
> <:-)
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Re: [tw] [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Jed

Interesting, how would you compare the goals/capabilities/format of:

* Tiddler schools
* plugins
* JSON tiddler files

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> On 9 Jan 2016, at 13:54, Jed Carty  wrote:
> 
> A while ago there was a lot of discussion about making things like 
> mini-plugins that are just for easily moving groups of tiddlers from one wiki 
> to another. Prompted by Mats questions over here I finally got around to 
> making a way to do this.
> 
> It has two parts:
> 
> First, a purely wkitext tool that lets you give a filter and a name, it then 
> packs all of the tiddlers returned by the filter into a school tiddler with 
> the given name.
> 
> Second, after importing a school into your wiki you use the 
> action-import-school widget to take the information contained in the school 
> and unpack it into tiddlers.
> 
> Some differences between this and plugins:
> 
> There is no version control here
> All tiddlers are normal tiddlers, there are no shadow tiddlers created
> There is no need to reload your wiki after importing a tiddler school
> 
> So far I have found one bug that I can't track down. If you try to make a 
> school on tiddlywiki.com using either the filter '[tag[Messages]] or 
> [tag[Filter Operator]] it gives a too much recursion error. I can't figure 
> out why because I haven't run into other filters that give the same error.
> 
> The demo site with the tools is here.
> 
> Let me know if you have any suggestions or find any bugs.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

[Jed Carty]

@Mat,

I forgot to include the part about only overwriting tiddlers if an 
attribute is set in the widget. I will add that.

I am hoping to use the list field to allow the user to selectively unpack 
the tiddlers in the destination wiki. That is probably a good idea for the 
tiddler separators, I just put in something that I hope people wouldn't 
have in their wikis. The problem is that without using more than wikitext I 
can't do anything to sanitize input to prevent users from accidentally 
breaking the import. 

To get around the error I mentioned I may have to go to javascript anyway. 
I would like to avoid that because then you wouldn't be able to drop the 
exporter into a wiki you don't have write access to (like a reference wiki) 
and selectively pull out content.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] A tool to create and import schools (swarms? Groups? whatever) of tiddlers (move multiple tiddlers between wikis easily)

[Mat]

@Jed - now this is TERRIFIQUE!

(I'm answering on this here instead of in the other thread of ours.)

Let me know if you have any suggestions
>

*I'm getting some images popping up in my mind from this with UI ideas etc. 
Should I draw them?

*Out of curiousity - why is it called Schools? Am I missing something?

<:-)

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[tw] My 'perfect.system' just got much more perfecter-ish

[David Gifford]

Hi all

I knew I should have played around a bit more before posting about 
'perfect.system.'

Last night and this morning I had eureka moments and greatly refined my 
system. It is now way easier to use and does things that would have been 
next to impossible in the first zip file.

Imagine a system that allows you to link and create tiddlers between 
numerous TWs almost as easily as internal links in a single TiddlyWiki, 
with no node.js, and something you can upload to your site if you wish. A 
system that lets you find and edit any tiddler quickly.

Here is the link to perfect.system, a zip file with three folders and 41 TW 
files (5.1.10). 
http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/perfect.system.1.09.16.zip.  I was 
enthused last weekend with the original idea. I am ecstatic about this. I 
think I practically just created my own personal substitute for wikipedia...

Maybe I am overstating my case, you decide. Please try it out and give me 
some feedback.

Dave

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New plugin: tobibeer/filter

[cmari]

@Tobias,
I think the link in the summary field inside your example tiddler "Search 
Multiple Fields with a Subfilter" still goes to the earlier version of the 
filter plugin? (I got javascript errors).
>
>
> Here are a bunch of examples:
> Search Multiple Fields With A Subfilter @ tobibeer/plugins 
> 
>

One other comment (bearing in mind I'm a non-expert): after reading the 
preface to the examples, I initially thought the search term was going to 
be the word "filter" itself (that's how I interpreted " using the filter 
operator *filter* to search for the word filter "). 
It might help clarify things to state explicitly that in all of the 
examples the term being searched for is the word "Evaluate" (I think!).

cmari 

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Re: [tw] Re: Temp Tiddlers and Form Updating Question

[David Allen]

Didn't need the reveal widgets, but using a list widget instead of a set
widget worked beautifully.  Thanks!

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> I have an example in my new post form on my site here
> .
> You use reveal widgets. It comes up a lot in forms in what I make. The
> general form is like this:
>
> <$edit-text tiddler='$:/temp/Some Tiddler' field='some_field'
> class='tc-edit-texteditor'/>
>
> <$reveal type=match state='$:/temp/Some Tiddler!!some_field' text=''>
> Enter a name first
> 
>
> <$reveal type=nomatch state='$:/temp/Some Tiddler!!some_field' text=''>
> <$list filter='[{$:/temp/Some Tiddler!!some_field}!has[title]]'
> emptyMessage='Already Exists'>
> <>
> 
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[tw] Name formatting using caption field

[David Allen]

So I've got various different characters of various different species and 
various different ways in which a character's name is displayed.  I'd like 
to format how a character's name is displayed by using the caption field of 
a character tiddler.  I'm using a macro that uses Tobias's setvars widget, 
and it works when I put the macro call into the caption field and manually 
enter the parameters for the species and names for the characters.

Here's how it's working (Other species will be added eventually):

\define name_output(species,first,second,third)
<$setvars twothreename="""(\$third$\ ? \$third$, $first$ $second$\) || 
\$second$, $first$\""" formatted_name="""(\$species$\ == \Human\ ? 
twothreename ) || (\$species$\ == \Bajoran\ ? \$first$ $second$\) || 
(\$species$\ == \Garbrini\ ? \$second$, $first$ $third$\) || \$first$\""">
<>

\end

Here are the fields in an example character tiddler:

caption: <>
species: Human

This works fine so far.  Here's what I'd like it to do.

   1. Pass the title of the character tiddler into a macro, parse the title 
   as a list, then pass the list to the name_output macro so I don't have to 
   manually add the name fields to a bunch of already made character tiddlers.
   2. Use the species field in the caption field.  <> doesn't seem to work as it interprets the 
   species parameter as {{!!species}} rather than the value of the species 
   field, although <> doesn't have this problem.

Does anyone know how I can do this?

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Re: [tw] Re: My 'perfect.system' just got much more perfecter-ish

[David Gifford]

Hi Dave

Yeah, I was thinking of that, May be a while before I can, as I would have
to refresh myself on how to do that.

Dave

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Dave  wrote:

> Looks interesting!  You know what would be helpful? a screencast of you
> using the system.  E.g. It took me a while to figure out that the starting
> tiddler was hidden (at least in linux a file that starts with a "." is
> automatically hidden).
>
> Would you use this system for everything?  Research, brainstorming,
> presentation TWs...?  Some widely ranging examples in a screencast showing
> the actual work flow of things would be ideal.
>
> Regardless, I'll try it out over the weekend and get back to you if I have
> any questions (or praises ;) )
>
> Dave
>
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:34:40 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> I knew I should have played around a bit more before posting about
>> 'perfect.system.'
>>
>> Last night and this morning I had eureka moments and greatly refined my
>> system. It is now way easier to use and does things that would have been
>> next to impossible in the first zip file.
>>
>> Imagine a system that allows you to link and create tiddlers between
>> numerous TWs almost as easily as internal links in a single TiddlyWiki,
>> with no node.js, and something you can upload to your site if you wish. A
>> system that lets you find and edit any tiddler quickly.
>>
>> Here is the link to perfect.system, a zip file with three folders and 41
>> TW files (5.1.10).
>> http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/perfect.system.1.09.16.zip.  I was
>> enthused last weekend with the original idea. I am ecstatic about this. I
>> think I practically just created my own personal substitute for wikipedia...
>>
>> Maybe I am overstating my case, you decide. Please try it out and give me
>> some feedback.
>>
>> Dave
>>
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[tw] How can I show a ViewTemplate cnditionally?

[Devin Weaver]

I have a tiddler which is tagged $:/tags/ViewTemplate What this does is 
display the tiddler on every tiddler view.

What I was hoping would be to have that tiddler only visible on tiddlers 
which have a specific tag.

For example if I have a tiddler that shows a button to leave a comment and 
put it at the bottom of tiddler view that have the tag Article and not 
other tiddlers.

The reveal widget seems to only work with fields not on filters. Maybe a 
list widget? But if it one template tiddler a list seems wrong.

Any help appreciated. Thanks.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] New plugin: tobibeer/filter

[Tobias Beer]

Hi cmari,

Removing the space in front of either of the plus signs (+) in the example 
> produced the "Well this is embarrassing" error.
>

Thanks for the detailed report.
With this very last step I could reproduce the error.
Will investigate tomorrow.

One thing's for sure, removing that *+* sign
from the filter expression  
will have the subfilter evaluated
against whatever the *[all[]]* filter returns.

Best wishes,

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[tw] Re: How can I show a ViewTemplate cnditionally?

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Devin,
 

> What I was hoping would be to have that tiddler only visible on tiddlers 
> which have a specific tag.
>

Have a look at Conditional ViewTemplate Section @ tb5 


Something along the lines of...

<$list filter="[all[current]tag[foo]">
do something


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[tw] Re: My 'perfect.system' just got much more perfecter-ish

[Dave]

Looks interesting!  You know what would be helpful? a screencast of you 
using the system.  E.g. It took me a while to figure out that the starting 
tiddler was hidden (at least in linux a file that starts with a "." is 
automatically hidden).  

Would you use this system for everything?  Research, brainstorming, 
presentation TWs...?  Some widely ranging examples in a screencast showing 
the actual work flow of things would be ideal.

Regardless, I'll try it out over the weekend and get back to you if I have 
any questions (or praises ;) )

Dave

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:34:40 AM UTC-7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I knew I should have played around a bit more before posting about 
> 'perfect.system.'
>
> Last night and this morning I had eureka moments and greatly refined my 
> system. It is now way easier to use and does things that would have been 
> next to impossible in the first zip file.
>
> Imagine a system that allows you to link and create tiddlers between 
> numerous TWs almost as easily as internal links in a single TiddlyWiki, 
> with no node.js, and something you can upload to your site if you wish. A 
> system that lets you find and edit any tiddler quickly.
>
> Here is the link to perfect.system, a zip file with three folders and 41 
> TW files (5.1.10). 
> http://www.giffmex.org/experiments/perfect.system.1.09.16.zip.  I was 
> enthused last weekend with the original idea. I am ecstatic about this. I 
> think I practically just created my own personal substitute for wikipedia...
>
> Maybe I am overstating my case, you decide. Please try it out and give me 
> some feedback.
>
> Dave
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Conditional Caption

[Andrew]

OK, well, here is what I did.
I put the following in the caption field: 

{{$:/core/images/star-filled}}{{$:/language/SideBar/Favorites/Caption}}

and the following in the stylesheet:

.tc-btn-dropdown + .tc-favorites-hidden {
display: none;
}

If anyone has any better ideas, please let me know. Here 
 is my new updated version 0.0.8 of 
Favorites.

On Friday, January 8, 2016 at 2:33:09 PM UTC-7, Andrew wrote:
>
> Would it be possible to have a caption field display as an icon if in a 
> tab, but as text if in a dropdown list? My favorites tab displays as a star 
> icon in the sidebar tab, but in the settings tab, just a blank line shows 
> for the caption in the dropdown for default tab in sidebar.
>
>
>
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