Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] Syntax highlighting / CodeMirror not working for me

2016-02-19 Thread BJ
oops l Meant to say auto-matching - its getting late...

On 19 February 2016 at 22:04, Hegart Dmishiv 
wrote:

> As I say above, the bracket *matching* is working fine, but not the
> bracket *auto-closing*. Thanks for looking into this, BJ.
>
> Hegart.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 20 February 2016 11:02:16 UTC+13, BJ wrote:
>>
>> I would guess that the version of codemirror in the tiddlywiki extension
>> is not the same as is on the codemirror site. - I have had a quick look at
>> the code and cannot see a version number! - it has been in the tw repo on
>> git hub for a couple of year
>>
>> I guess we will have to live without bracket matching at this time. It
>> needs to be raised as an issue.
>>
>> On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 9:24:40 PM UTC, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi BJ,
>>>
>>> I've gotten the *Basic working configuration* to work, with bracket
>>> matching
>>> ,
>>> but I can't get *Add closing brackets* to work. It comes up with a red
>>> Javascript error every time I use it. There must be a simpler way to use
>>> this thing, rather than having to add bits and pieces of raw Javascript
>>> code to my TiddlyWiki to make it work? Has someone got a working
>>> configuration that I can just pull into my TW instance, to get the bracket
>>> closing and WikiText syntax highlighting to work?
>>>
>>> Hegart.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 20 February 2016 06:30:12 UTC+13, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:

 Aha! Thanks for that BJ. I was wondering what was going on. The
 instructions
  for
 this only say:

  "To add the plugin to your own TiddlyWiki5, *just drag this link to
 the browser window*"

 Nothing about having to configure it. I'm going through the
 configuration process now. The documentation for this definitely needs to
 be better, not the internal documentation that you pointed me to, but the
 fact that there even is internal documentation, and configuration required,
 needs to be pointed out for us n00bs!

 Hegart.



 On Saturday, 20 February 2016 05:39:48 UTC+13, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Hegart,
> you need to look at the tiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/usage
> to see how to setup using a config tiddler ($:/config/CodeMirror)
> all the best
> BJ
>
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 2:32:47 AM UTC, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>
>> I have two {{DesignWrite}} TW5 instances[1
>> 
>> ][2
>> 
>> ] and my offline TW5 instance, all of which have the CodeMirror
>>  and the Highlight.js
>>  plugins installed. None
>> of my TW instances have syntax highlighting working when I edit a 
>> tiddler.
>> I can't even see syntax highlighting on the plugin demo site
>> . I've tried
>> it from both Firefox v44.0 and Midori 
>> web browsers. I'm running Lubuntu  v14.04 LTS
>> as my operating system. Is there something else I need to enable in order
>> to get syntax highlighting to work properly?
>>
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[tw] Re: Next for next item in tag list

2016-02-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 2:10:10 PM UTC-8, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 1:57:53 PM UTC-8, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>
>> <$list filter:"[tag[singing]before]">Prev <
>> >
>>
>
update:
The above example code assumes that the tiddler titles are WikiWord, which 
are autolinked.  To ensure that a link is created, even if the title is not 
a WikiWord, write:

<$list filter:"[tag[singing]before]">
   Prev <$link to=<>><$text text=<
>/>


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[tw] Re: Next for next item in tag list

2016-02-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 1:57:53 PM UTC-8, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Ah, that makes sense, thanks Eric. Now, can I break it out of the macro, 
> back into a widget? So that I can add something custom inside the widget to 
> click on, like this:
>
> <$list-links filter:"[tag[singing]before]">
> Prev
>
> This should give me a left-pointing index finger ☚ and "Prev" as the 
> clickable link. I'd do a similar ☛ for "Next".
>

There is no $list-links widget.  You want to use the $list widget. 
 However, $list doesn't automatically link the output.  You need to fully 
specify the output format, including the link to the tiddler, like this:

<$list filter:"[tag[singing]before]">Prev <
>

Note the different uses of "currentTiddler".  The one in the filter syntax 
refers to the actual current tiddler.  The one in the $list *content* 
refers to the results of the filter (i.e., the previous tiddler in the tag 
order).  Although this works just fine, it can be a bit confusing to read. 
 To avoid that confusion, you can use a separate variable for the results 
of the filter, like this:

<$list filter:"[tag[singing]before]" 
variable="listItem">Prev <>

enjoy,
-e

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Syntax highlighting / CodeMirror not working for me

2016-02-19 Thread Hegart Dmishiv
As I say above, the bracket *matching* is working fine, but not the bracket 
*auto-closing*. Thanks for looking into this, BJ.

Hegart.


On Saturday, 20 February 2016 11:02:16 UTC+13, BJ wrote:
>
> I would guess that the version of codemirror in the tiddlywiki extension 
> is not the same as is on the codemirror site. - I have had a quick look at 
> the code and cannot see a version number! - it has been in the tw repo on 
> git hub for a couple of year
>
> I guess we will have to live without bracket matching at this time. It 
> needs to be raised as an issue.
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 9:24:40 PM UTC, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>
>> Hi BJ,
>>
>> I've gotten the *Basic working configuration* to work, with bracket 
>> matching 
>> ,
>>  
>> but I can't get *Add closing brackets* to work. It comes up with a red 
>> Javascript error every time I use it. There must be a simpler way to use 
>> this thing, rather than having to add bits and pieces of raw Javascript 
>> code to my TiddlyWiki to make it work? Has someone got a working 
>> configuration that I can just pull into my TW instance, to get the bracket 
>> closing and WikiText syntax highlighting to work?
>>
>> Hegart.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 20 February 2016 06:30:12 UTC+13, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>>
>>> Aha! Thanks for that BJ. I was wondering what was going on. The 
>>> instructions 
>>>  for 
>>> this only say:
>>>
>>>  "To add the plugin to your own TiddlyWiki5, *just drag this link to 
>>> the browser window*" 
>>>
>>> Nothing about having to configure it. I'm going through the 
>>> configuration process now. The documentation for this definitely needs to 
>>> be better, not the internal documentation that you pointed me to, but the 
>>> fact that there even is internal documentation, and configuration required, 
>>> needs to be pointed out for us n00bs!
>>>
>>> Hegart.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, 20 February 2016 05:39:48 UTC+13, BJ wrote:

 Hi Hegart,
 you need to look at the tiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/usage 
 to see how to setup using a config tiddler ($:/config/CodeMirror)
 all the best
 BJ

 On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 2:32:47 AM UTC, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> I have two {{DesignWrite}} TW5 instances[1 
> 
> ][2 
> 
> ] and my offline TW5 instance, all of which have the CodeMirror 
>  and the Highlight.js 
>  plugins installed. None 
> of my TW instances have syntax highlighting working when I edit a 
> tiddler. 
> I can't even see syntax highlighting on the plugin demo site 
> . I've tried it 
> from both Firefox v44.0 and Midori  web 
> browsers. I'm running Lubuntu  v14.04 LTS as my 
> operating system. Is there something else I need to enable in order to 
> get 
> syntax highlighting to work properly? 
>


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Syntax highlighting / CodeMirror not working for me

2016-02-19 Thread BJ
I would guess that the version of codemirror in the tiddlywiki extension is 
not the same as is on the codemirror site. - I have had a quick look at the 
code and cannot see a version number! - it has been in the tw repo on git 
hub for a couple of year

I guess we will have to live without bracket matching at this time. It 
needs to be raised as an issue.

On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 9:24:40 PM UTC, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Hi BJ,
>
> I've gotten the *Basic working configuration* to work, with bracket 
> matching 
> ,
>  
> but I can't get *Add closing brackets* to work. It comes up with a red 
> Javascript error every time I use it. There must be a simpler way to use 
> this thing, rather than having to add bits and pieces of raw Javascript 
> code to my TiddlyWiki to make it work? Has someone got a working 
> configuration that I can just pull into my TW instance, to get the bracket 
> closing and WikiText syntax highlighting to work?
>
> Hegart.
>
>
> On Saturday, 20 February 2016 06:30:12 UTC+13, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>
>> Aha! Thanks for that BJ. I was wondering what was going on. The 
>> instructions 
>>  for 
>> this only say:
>>
>>  "To add the plugin to your own TiddlyWiki5, *just drag this link to the 
>> browser window*" 
>>
>> Nothing about having to configure it. I'm going through the configuration 
>> process now. The documentation for this definitely needs to be better, not 
>> the internal documentation that you pointed me to, but the fact that there 
>> even is internal documentation, and configuration required, needs to be 
>> pointed out for us n00bs!
>>
>> Hegart.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 20 February 2016 05:39:48 UTC+13, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Hegart,
>>> you need to look at the tiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/usage 
>>> to see how to setup using a config tiddler ($:/config/CodeMirror)
>>> all the best
>>> BJ
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 2:32:47 AM UTC, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:

 I have two {{DesignWrite}} TW5 instances[1 
 
 ][2 
 
 ] and my offline TW5 instance, all of which have the CodeMirror 
  and the Highlight.js 
  plugins installed. None of 
 my TW instances have syntax highlighting working when I edit a tiddler. I 
 can't even see syntax highlighting on the plugin demo site 
 . I've tried it 
 from both Firefox v44.0 and Midori  web 
 browsers. I'm running Lubuntu  v14.04 LTS as my 
 operating system. Is there something else I need to enable in order to get 
 syntax highlighting to work properly? 

>>>

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[tw] Re: Next for next item in tag list

2016-02-19 Thread Hegart Dmishiv
Ah, that makes sense, thanks Eric. Now, can I break it out of the macro, 
back into a widget? So that I can add something custom inside the widget to 
click on, like this:

<$list-links filter:"[tag[singing]before]">
Prev

This should give me a left-pointing index finger ☚ and "Prev" as the 
clickable link. I'd do a similar ☛ for "Next".

Hegart.

On Saturday, 20 February 2016 10:44:16 UTC+13, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 1:21:55 PM UTC-8, Steven Schneider wrote:
>>
>> I sense that this is an easy thing, but haven't figured it out.
>>
>> How to I use the next operator to get the next tagged tiddler?
>>
>> Why can't I do this to get the next tiddler after Pix1091 that is tagged 
>> with "singing" (and presumably, add a sort to the filter as well). 
>> <>
>>
>
> The "next" operator takes a tiddler title as it's operand.  It then uses 
> the "list" field of that tiddler to determine the next tiddler in the 
> sequence.  Thus, you can't use it the way you want.  Fortunately, there is 
> a different operator that does exactly what you want: "after".  To use it 
> for your purposes, first get the list of tagged tiddlers, and then apply 
> the after[...] operator to find the next tiddler in the list of tagged 
> tiddlers.  Like this:
>
> <> 
>
> To make this work generically for any tiddler, you could use:
> <]">>
> to get the link for the next tagged tiddler.
>
> and, of course, there's the corresponding "before" filter
> <]">>
> to get the link for the previous tagged tiddler.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

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[tw] Re: Using the next operator and transcluding {{!!title}} in a filter

2016-02-19 Thread Hegart Dmishiv
Hi Steve,

Where's your *"a tiddler is a tag is a tiddler"* when you need it? ;-)

Hegart.


On Saturday, 20 February 2016 10:26:14 UTC+13, Steven Schneider wrote:
>
>
> I suspect the problem Hegart is having here is the same as I just wrote 
> the group about. We are trying to use the tag as the list. In 
> Hegart's, <> returns an empty list; 
> he was hoping to move to the next tiddler in < filter:"[tag[References]]">>. So, how do we get that list into the 
> next/previous filters?
>
> //steve.
>
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 3:45:25 PM UTC-5, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eric,
>>
>> I just tried using this as well, in my own {{DesignWrite}} exercise, and 
>> couldn't get it to work either, even following your example code above. 
>> I've used it on just this one tiddler 
>> 
>>  
>> so far, but I intend to use it in a ViewTemplate later. Here's my code:
>>
>> <>
>>
>> Any idea why this isn't working? That tiddler is tagged with  References , 
>> and there are two other tiddlers also tagged in the same collection / set. 
>> A standard *<$list filter="[tag[References]">* filtered list sees them 
>> all.
>>
>> Hegart.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 19 February 2016 11:36:38 UTC+13, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 2:13:09 PM UTC-8, stevesuny wrote:

 I am exploring the use of the next operator, and want to build "next" 
 and "previous" buttons using tag lists etc.

 Putting this code in the Tuesday tiddler http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tuesday
 in Tiddlywiki.com the first line returns "Wednesday"  and the second, 
 nothing.

 1 <>
 2 <>

 I have trouble with syntax getting the {{!!title}} to work when 
 embedded in code like this. What am I missing?

>>>
>>> You have too many brackets and braces... within filter syntax, there are 
>>> three ways to specify a value, using brackets, chevrons and braces, like 
>>> this: 
>>>
>>> [Tuesday] is a constant literal text value
>>>  retrieves the value of a variable currently in scope
>>> {TextReference} retrieves the value from a text reference 
>>>
>>> Think of the brackets, chevrons and braces as different kinds of quotes 
>>> that indicate how the enclosed content should be handled.  This is similar 
>>> to the way wikitext syntax uses [[...]] for literal links, 
>>> {{TextReference}} for transclusion, and <> for variables/macros. 
>>>  Note however that the filter syntax uses *single* brackets, chevrons, and 
>>> braces, while the wikitext syntax uses *doubled* brackets, chevrons, and 
>>> braces.
>>>
>>> Thus, starting with your first example:
>>> <>
>>>
>>> replace the [Tuesday] with {!!title} to use a TextReference to the title 
>>> of the current tiddler:
>>> <>
>>>
>>> enjoy,
>>> -e
>>> Eric Shulman
>>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
>>> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Using the next operator and transcluding {{!!title}} in a filter

2016-02-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 1:26:14 PM UTC-8, Steven Schneider wrote:
>
>
> I suspect the problem Hegart is having here is the same as I just wrote 
> the group about. We are trying to use the tag as the list. In 
> Hegart's, <> returns an empty list; 
> he was hoping to move to the next tiddler in < filter:"[tag[References]]">>. So, how do we get that list into the 
> next/previous filters?
> //steve.
>

As posted in reply on the other thread, use before[...] and after[...] 
rather than previous[...] and next[...] 

-e

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[tw] Re: Next for next item in tag list

2016-02-19 Thread Eric Shulman
On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 1:21:55 PM UTC-8, Steven Schneider wrote:
>
> I sense that this is an easy thing, but haven't figured it out.
>
> How to I use the next operator to get the next tagged tiddler?
>
> Why can't I do this to get the next tiddler after Pix1091 that is tagged 
> with "singing" (and presumably, add a sort to the filter as well). 
> <>
>

The "next" operator takes a tiddler title as it's operand.  It then uses 
the "list" field of that tiddler to determine the next tiddler in the 
sequence.  Thus, you can't use it the way you want.  Fortunately, there is 
a different operator that does exactly what you want: "after".  To use it 
for your purposes, first get the list of tagged tiddlers, and then apply 
the after[...] operator to find the next tiddler in the list of tagged 
tiddlers.  Like this:

<> 

To make this work generically for any tiddler, you could use:
<]">>
to get the link for the next tagged tiddler.

and, of course, there's the corresponding "before" filter
<]">>
to get the link for the previous tagged tiddler.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw] Re: Using the next operator and transcluding {{!!title}} in a filter

2016-02-19 Thread Steven Schneider
Many thanks. It works...//steve.

On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 5:36:38 PM UTC-5, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 2:13:09 PM UTC-8, stevesuny wrote:
>>
>> I am exploring the use of the next operator, and want to build "next" and 
>> "previous" buttons using tag lists etc.
>>
>> Putting this code in the Tuesday tiddler http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tuesday
>> in Tiddlywiki.com the first line returns "Wednesday"  and the second, 
>> nothing.
>>
>> 1 <>
>> 2 <>
>>
>> I have trouble with syntax getting the {{!!title}} to work when embedded 
>> in code like this. What am I missing?
>>
>
> You have too many brackets and braces... within filter syntax, there are 
> three ways to specify a value, using brackets, chevrons and braces, like 
> this: 
>
> [Tuesday] is a constant literal text value
>  retrieves the value of a variable currently in scope
> {TextReference} retrieves the value from a text reference 
>
> Think of the brackets, chevrons and braces as different kinds of quotes 
> that indicate how the enclosed content should be handled.  This is similar 
> to the way wikitext syntax uses [[...]] for literal links, 
> {{TextReference}} for transclusion, and <> for variables/macros. 
>  Note however that the filter syntax uses *single* brackets, chevrons, and 
> braces, while the wikitext syntax uses *doubled* brackets, chevrons, and 
> braces.
>
> Thus, starting with your first example:
> <>
>
> replace the [Tuesday] with {!!title} to use a TextReference to the title 
> of the current tiddler:
> <>
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>

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[tw] Re: Using the next operator and transcluding {{!!title}} in a filter

2016-02-19 Thread Steven Schneider

I suspect the problem Hegart is having here is the same as I just wrote the 
group about. We are trying to use the tag as the list. In 
Hegart's, <> returns an empty list; 
he was hoping to move to the next tiddler in <>. So, how do we get that list into the 
next/previous filters?

//steve.


On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 3:45:25 PM UTC-5, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> I just tried using this as well, in my own {{DesignWrite}} exercise, and 
> couldn't get it to work either, even following your example code above. 
> I've used it on just this one tiddler 
> 
>  
> so far, but I intend to use it in a ViewTemplate later. Here's my code:
>
> <>
>
> Any idea why this isn't working? That tiddler is tagged with  References , 
> and there are two other tiddlers also tagged in the same collection / set. 
> A standard *<$list filter="[tag[References]">* filtered list sees them 
> all.
>
> Hegart.
>
>
> On Friday, 19 February 2016 11:36:38 UTC+13, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 2:13:09 PM UTC-8, stevesuny wrote:
>>>
>>> I am exploring the use of the next operator, and want to build "next" 
>>> and "previous" buttons using tag lists etc.
>>>
>>> Putting this code in the Tuesday tiddler http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tuesday
>>> in Tiddlywiki.com the first line returns "Wednesday"  and the second, 
>>> nothing.
>>>
>>> 1 <>
>>> 2 <>
>>>
>>> I have trouble with syntax getting the {{!!title}} to work when embedded 
>>> in code like this. What am I missing?
>>>
>>
>> You have too many brackets and braces... within filter syntax, there are 
>> three ways to specify a value, using brackets, chevrons and braces, like 
>> this: 
>>
>> [Tuesday] is a constant literal text value
>>  retrieves the value of a variable currently in scope
>> {TextReference} retrieves the value from a text reference 
>>
>> Think of the brackets, chevrons and braces as different kinds of quotes 
>> that indicate how the enclosed content should be handled.  This is similar 
>> to the way wikitext syntax uses [[...]] for literal links, 
>> {{TextReference}} for transclusion, and <> for variables/macros. 
>>  Note however that the filter syntax uses *single* brackets, chevrons, and 
>> braces, while the wikitext syntax uses *doubled* brackets, chevrons, and 
>> braces.
>>
>> Thus, starting with your first example:
>> <>
>>
>> replace the [Tuesday] with {!!title} to use a TextReference to the title 
>> of the current tiddler:
>> <>
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e
>> Eric Shulman
>> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
>> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Syntax highlighting / CodeMirror not working for me

2016-02-19 Thread Hegart Dmishiv
Hi BJ,

I've gotten the *Basic working configuration* to work, with bracket matching 
,
 
but I can't get *Add closing brackets* to work. It comes up with a red 
Javascript error every time I use it. There must be a simpler way to use 
this thing, rather than having to add bits and pieces of raw Javascript 
code to my TiddlyWiki to make it work? Has someone got a working 
configuration that I can just pull into my TW instance, to get the bracket 
closing and WikiText syntax highlighting to work?

Hegart.


On Saturday, 20 February 2016 06:30:12 UTC+13, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> Aha! Thanks for that BJ. I was wondering what was going on. The 
> instructions 
>  for 
> this only say:
>
>  "To add the plugin to your own TiddlyWiki5, *just drag this link to the 
> browser window*" 
>
> Nothing about having to configure it. I'm going through the configuration 
> process now. The documentation for this definitely needs to be better, not 
> the internal documentation that you pointed me to, but the fact that there 
> even is internal documentation, and configuration required, needs to be 
> pointed out for us n00bs!
>
> Hegart.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 20 February 2016 05:39:48 UTC+13, BJ wrote:
>>
>> Hi Hegart,
>> you need to look at the tiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/usage to 
>> see how to setup using a config tiddler ($:/config/CodeMirror)
>> all the best
>> BJ
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 2:32:47 AM UTC, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>>
>>> I have two {{DesignWrite}} TW5 instances[1 
>>> 
>>> ][2 
>>> 
>>> ] and my offline TW5 instance, all of which have the CodeMirror 
>>>  and the Highlight.js 
>>>  plugins installed. None of 
>>> my TW instances have syntax highlighting working when I edit a tiddler. I 
>>> can't even see syntax highlighting on the plugin demo site 
>>> . I've tried it 
>>> from both Firefox v44.0 and Midori  web 
>>> browsers. I'm running Lubuntu  v14.04 LTS as my 
>>> operating system. Is there something else I need to enable in order to get 
>>> syntax highlighting to work properly? 
>>>
>>

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[tw] Next for next item in tag list

2016-02-19 Thread Steven Schneider
I sense that this is an easy thing, but haven't figured it out.

How to I use the next operator to get the next tagged tiddler?

Why can't I do this to get the next tiddler after Pix1091 that is tagged 
with "singing" (and presumably, add a sort to the filter as well). 
<>


Thanks!

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[tw] Re: Using the next operator and transcluding {{!!title}} in a filter

2016-02-19 Thread Hegart Dmishiv
Hi Eric,

I just tried using this as well, in my own {{DesignWrite}} exercise, and 
couldn't get it to work either, even following your example code above. 
I've used it on just this one tiddler 

 
so far, but I intend to use it in a ViewTemplate later. Here's my code:

<>

Any idea why this isn't working? That tiddler is tagged with References, 
and there are two other tiddlers also tagged in the same collection / set. 
A standard *<$list filter="[tag[References]">* filtered list sees them all.

Hegart.


On Friday, 19 February 2016 11:36:38 UTC+13, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 2:13:09 PM UTC-8, stevesuny wrote:
>>
>> I am exploring the use of the next operator, and want to build "next" and 
>> "previous" buttons using tag lists etc.
>>
>> Putting this code in the Tuesday tiddler http://tiddlywiki.com/#Tuesday
>> in Tiddlywiki.com the first line returns "Wednesday"  and the second, 
>> nothing.
>>
>> 1 <>
>> 2 <>
>>
>> I have trouble with syntax getting the {{!!title}} to work when embedded 
>> in code like this. What am I missing?
>>
>
> You have too many brackets and braces... within filter syntax, there are 
> three ways to specify a value, using brackets, chevrons and braces, like 
> this: 
>
> [Tuesday] is a constant literal text value
>  retrieves the value of a variable currently in scope
> {TextReference} retrieves the value from a text reference 
>
> Think of the brackets, chevrons and braces as different kinds of quotes 
> that indicate how the enclosed content should be handled.  This is similar 
> to the way wikitext syntax uses [[...]] for literal links, 
> {{TextReference}} for transclusion, and <> for variables/macros. 
>  Note however that the filter syntax uses *single* brackets, chevrons, and 
> braces, while the wikitext syntax uses *doubled* brackets, chevrons, and 
> braces.
>
> Thus, starting with your first example:
> <>
>
> replace the [Tuesday] with {!!title} to use a TextReference to the title 
> of the current tiddler:
> <>
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools / ELS Design Studios
> InsideTiddlyWiki: The Missing Manuals
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Very slow on android

2016-02-19 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki
On the old TWC there was a plugin that would let you transclude other TW's. 

12mb seems like a lot for only 850 tiddlers. I have a TW of a book with 
more than 1000 tiddler/chapters, and it's only 6mb.

Check out that image. Even a single image you've snapped on your phone can 
take a lot of space. It's stored internally as base 64 ascii, which 
inflates the size it even more.

HTH
Mark

On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 4:37:58 AM UTC-8, HC Haase wrote:
>
> Thanks for the reply’s.
> Well it is a bit big, around 12mb. But I think I only have one pic I can 
> remove so it's not going to do much. I have around 850 tiddlers and quite a 
> lot of plug-ins.
> I would not like to partition my data, since it would break the idea of 
> one file with everything. But maybe that’s my best option.
>
>
> Is thee a way to transclude a tiddler form another tiddlywiki, like when 
> you load an external img? or would that just make it load it and make it 
> slow again? 
>
>
>
> I certainly agree with you that mobile devices is going to be more 
> central. And it a shame that TW don’t preform well there. But TW still have 
> the advantage of being a single file, open and portable tool. I think that 
> many of the note apps that exist have too much lock in effect for me to 
> trust it all my precious notes. 
>
>
> HC
>
> Den søndag den 14. februar 2016 kl. 22.33.51 UTC+1 skrev Mark S.:
>>
>> An external link to a separate TW in the same directory as the current TW 
>> would look like:
>>
>>[ext[TW Testbed|TestBed515.htm]]
>>
>> An image link to an external image in a subdirectory of the current 
>> directory would look like:
>>
>>   [img[2014/Transit/2014-Subway-Schedule-Green-Line.jpg]]
>>
>> However, I'm thinking lately that it might be better to go with an image 
>> macro system as outlined on Tobias Beer's site (
>> http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#External%20Image%20Path)
>>
>> The advantage here is that you can separate and sync images separately 
>> from the TW file. So, for instance, you might want your image files to 
>> reside on an SD card rather than taking up space in your main memory.
>>
>> In terms of collecting information while on your android, it might be 
>> more efficient to save the images using some existing tool (evernote, ES 
>> file manager) to save the images and then later manipulate them on your 
>> desktop.
>>
>> On your desktop  you can use the local snip mode of tiddlyclip (
>> http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/) . What you do is navigate to the file 
>> directory of your images in one tab, and then use the tiddlyclip local 
>> image feature to send  your image links into TW on another tab.
>>
>> Tiddlyclip is configurable, so it might be possible to have it create 
>> Tobias'  macro instead of an image reference on the fly. I haven't tried 
>> that yet, but that would make it easier to have linked images created 
>> associated with image paths that can be changed based on current context.
>>
>> These challenges on the Android are part of the reason I haven't embraced 
>> TW5 fully yet. I think the future of computing for most of us is going to 
>> be more about mobile devices and less about desktop machines.  That said, 
>> TW5 is just about the only supported open source information manager that 
>> works on all platforms out there. 
>>
>> HTH
>> Mark 
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 1:07:41 PM UTC-8, Pit.W. wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> *links to each other
>>> *moving them into external image files
>>>
>>> ... some practical advice (ho-to) on the above would be 
>>> welcome...,especially on how to link TWs to each other.
>>>
>>> Pit.W
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 14.02.2016 um 21:04 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>>
>>> How big is your TW? One of the weaknesses of TW is that is not an 
>>> indexed database system. So once you've done everything reasonable like you 
>>> alredy have, you either have to get a more powerful device or reduce the 
>>> size of your data set.
>>>
>>> One thing you could is to partition your data into separate TW's that 
>>> have links to each other. So you might have one TW for work and the other 
>>> for home, or split off contacts from the rest of your data.Or split off 
>>> frequently referenced data from "archived" data. And, of course, you have 
>>> imported images, consider moving them into external image files.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 6:38:59 AM UTC-8, HC Haase wrote: 

 Both in andtiddlywiki and FF it takes minimum 18 seconds to open my 
 tiddlywiki. Can I do annything to speed it up or make it nobile friendly? 

 I have made it start on a simple tiddler and only show open tiddlers in 
 the menu tab.

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[tw] Re: [meta] What other software can elicit the same reaction as TiddlyWiki?

2016-02-19 Thread Peter Miller


I remember HyperCard with some affection and nostalgia but these days the 
only generative software I use of similar ilk is OpenSimulator. As of 
today's viewer update I can display (and potentially edit) TiddlyWiki 5 
inworld. This is going to be very useful for documenting builds (that's 
17th century Liverpool being mapped out in the background, tiddlywiki.com 
and tiddlymap.org on a "prim" in the foreground). Sometimes it's great when 
worlds "collide"!


Best wishes


Peter




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Re: [tw] Re: TWC: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services

2016-02-19 Thread Måns Mårtensson
Hi Rowan

The bopland.org service doesn't seem to exist anymore, which is too bad.
It was very nice to be able to write tabs and musical notation, have it
play back and transpose.
You could even download a mp3 file.

I haven't been able to find out what happened to the service.

We will just have to wait and see if any alternatives show up.

Have you checked out VexTab ? It
currently works as a plugin

in google docs.
Here is a tutorial .

Cheers Måns Mårtenssom

2016-02-19 18:46 GMT+01:00 Rowan Corbett :

> Actually, I just figured it out. I just needed to keep at it for a little
> while. :)
>
> Rowan
>
>
> On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 10:54:00 AM UTC-5, Rowan Corbett wrote:
>>
>> I've been trying to get this to work as well. I'm using 5.1.11 but can't
>> seem to get any of the above examples to function.
>> Has something changed in the way TW deals with rawmarkup tags?
>>
>> Rowan
>>
>> On Monday, July 14, 2014 at 8:55:26 AM UTC-4, Piotr Świerszcz wrote:
>>>
>>> Any news? Work in progress?
>>>
>>> Piotr
>>>
>>> W dniu czwartek, 17 października 2013 03:23:02 UTC+2 użytkownik Måns
>>> napisał:

 Hi TWafficionados

 Just found out how easy it is to write,edit and publish musical notes
 in a TW* - and wanted to share my new found insight with you:

 1) Write: http://my.bopland.org/render.js";>   in
 your MarkupPostHead tiddler (save & reload)

 2) Create a template eg. "Bop" containing:

 
 
 $1
 
 


 3) Use it like this:

 <>>> Your musical code here
 ">>


 My example: BopNotes
 

 Have fun :-)

 Cheers Måns Mårtensson

 *) You'll need to be connected to the internet to use it.

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[tw] Re: Where can I find alternative colour / color palettes?

2016-02-19 Thread Dave
Yeah, I like the idea of taking a nice photo or other image and using one 
of those websites where it extracts a color palette based on that and use 
those colors for a theme (somehow)

like this site:
http://www.cssdrive.com/imagepalette/index.php

On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 10:30:11 AM UTC-7, Scott Simmons 
(Secret-HQ) wrote:
>
> I keep hoping to stumble across a treasure chest of palettes myself, Dave. 
>  ;)
>
> One of the items on my "someday" list for TiddlyWiki is sitting down and 
> making several based around some common background images I've been using. 
>  I've also thought about going back to some of my favorite TiddlyWiki 
> Classic themes and adapting a couple of color palettes from there.
>
> Someday ... .
>

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[tw] Re: TWC: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services

2016-02-19 Thread Rowan Corbett
Actually, I just figured it out. I just needed to keep at it for a little 
while. :)

Rowan

On Friday, February 19, 2016 at 10:54:00 AM UTC-5, Rowan Corbett wrote:
>
> I've been trying to get this to work as well. I'm using 5.1.11 but can't 
> seem to get any of the above examples to function.
> Has something changed in the way TW deals with rawmarkup tags?
>
> Rowan
>
> On Monday, July 14, 2014 at 8:55:26 AM UTC-4, Piotr Świerszcz wrote:
>>
>> Any news? Work in progress?
>>
>> Piotr
>>  
>> W dniu czwartek, 17 października 2013 03:23:02 UTC+2 użytkownik Måns 
>> napisał:
>>>
>>> Hi TWafficionados
>>>
>>> Just found out how easy it is to write,edit and publish musical notes in 
>>> a TW* - and wanted to share my new found insight with you:
>>>
>>> 1) Write: http://my.bopland.org/render.js";>   in 
>>> your MarkupPostHead tiddler (save & reload)
>>>
>>> 2) Create a template eg. "Bop" containing: 
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> $1
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> 3) Use it like this:
>>>
>>> <>> Your musical code here
>>> ">>
>>>
>>>
>>> My example: BopNotes 
>>> 
>>>
>>> Have fun :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>>
>>> *) You'll need to be connected to the internet to use it.
>>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Where can I find alternative colour / color palettes?

2016-02-19 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
I keep hoping to stumble across a treasure chest of palettes myself, Dave. 
 ;)

One of the items on my "someday" list for TiddlyWiki is sitting down and 
making several based around some common background images I've been using. 
 I've also thought about going back to some of my favorite TiddlyWiki 
Classic themes and adapting a couple of color palettes from there.

Someday ... .

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Syntax highlighting / CodeMirror not working for me

2016-02-19 Thread Hegart Dmishiv
Aha! Thanks for that BJ. I was wondering what was going on. The instructions 
 for this 
only say:

 "To add the plugin to your own TiddlyWiki5, *just drag this link to the 
browser window*" 

Nothing about having to configure it. I'm going through the configuration 
process now. The documentation for this definitely needs to be better, not 
the internal documentation that you pointed me to, but the fact that there 
even is internal documentation, and configuration required, needs to be 
pointed out for us n00bs!

Hegart.



On Saturday, 20 February 2016 05:39:48 UTC+13, BJ wrote:
>
> Hi Hegart,
> you need to look at the tiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/usage to 
> see how to setup using a config tiddler ($:/config/CodeMirror)
> all the best
> BJ
>
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 2:32:47 AM UTC, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>>
>> I have two {{DesignWrite}} TW5 instances[1 
>> 
>> ][2 
>> 
>> ] and my offline TW5 instance, all of which have the CodeMirror 
>>  and the Highlight.js 
>>  plugins installed. None of 
>> my TW instances have syntax highlighting working when I edit a tiddler. I 
>> can't even see syntax highlighting on the plugin demo site 
>> . I've tried it 
>> from both Firefox v44.0 and Midori  web 
>> browsers. I'm running Lubuntu  v14.04 LTS as my 
>> operating system. Is there something else I need to enable in order to get 
>> syntax highlighting to work properly? 
>>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins within Plugins, Shadows within Shadows

2016-02-19 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
The way my TW5 use is shaping up, I think this is the best fit for me:

   - plugins composed of tiddlers designed for specific purposes (e.g., a 
   "to do" plugin containing my macros, buttons, lists, images, stylesheets, 
   and skeletons related to task management; a "bug reporting" plugin with its 
   own set of stylesheets, images, macros, skeletons, and buttons)
   - a "personal core" comprising the settings I apply in every new 
   TiddlyWiki and customizations I made to a handful of core shadows, as well 
   as universal macros, buttons, and skeletons I'd like to make available 
   everywhere
  - within this personal core, I'd like to include a couple of plugins:
 - plugins I've created for specific purposes that I'd like to make 
 available everywhere (for example, plugins that other items in my 
personal 
 core depend on)
 - setvars — you knew I was talking about setvars, didn't you, 
 Tobias? ;)  — on which so many of my buttons depend
  
I haven't sat down and tested this yet.  I'm wary of running into potential 
conflicts, but, off-hand, I think it will actually work.

I think I'd prefer to reserve bundles — which, as an aside, I am going to 
personally insist on calling "schools"! :P — for content tiddlers rather 
than system/operational/functional tiddlers.

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Syntax highlighting / CodeMirror not working for me

2016-02-19 Thread BJ
Hi Hegart,
you need to look at the tiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/codemirror/usage to 
see how to setup using a config tiddler ($:/config/CodeMirror)
all the best
BJ

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 2:32:47 AM UTC, Hegart Dmishiv wrote:
>
> I have two {{DesignWrite}} TW5 instances[1 
> 
> ][2 
> 
> ] and my offline TW5 instance, all of which have the CodeMirror 
>  and the Highlight.js 
>  plugins installed. None of my 
> TW instances have syntax highlighting working when I edit a tiddler. I 
> can't even see syntax highlighting on the plugin demo site 
> . I've tried it 
> from both Firefox v44.0 and Midori  web 
> browsers. I'm running Lubuntu  v14.04 LTS as my 
> operating system. Is there something else I need to enable in order to get 
> syntax highlighting to work properly? 
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[tw] Re: Proposal: make list-before and list-after fields accept multiple titles

2016-02-19 Thread Scott Simmons (Secret-HQ)
Perhaps the core could treat it as a fallback case?

I.e.:

   - if the value of "list-before" matches an item in the list field of 
   some tiddler somewhere, then TW handles "list-before" as it always has
   - but if it *doesn't*, TW makes a second pass, treating the contents of 
   "list-before" as a list and stopping when it finds a value that works for 
   its current context.
   

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Re: [tw] [tw5] Introducing "Internals" plugin for exploring TW5

2016-02-19 Thread Arlen Beiler
It would include all dynamic inclusions using a list on a tag, right? My,
I'm really like this idea. This is going to make everything so much easier
if we had a way to easily inspect TiddlyWiki internals!

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 10:50 PM, Brian Theado 
wrote:

> Those preview types look really useful. I think a "transclusion tree"
> preview type would be another useful addition.  Instead of displaying
> the full widget tree, this preview type would extract only the
> transclusion widgets and display them as a nested list of tiddler
> links. It would be much less verbose than the full widget tree, but
> still display useful information. It would be great for learning how
> all the core shadow tiddlers work together to create the TiddlyWiki
> functionality. Just open the $:/core/ui/PageTemplate and choose this
> view to see a top to bottom summary of how all the tiddlers relate to
> each other.
>
> Brian
>
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:10 AM, Jeremy Ruston 
> wrote:
> > When the “internals" plugin is loaded, an extra dropdown appears above
> the preview pane allowing the user to choose the type of preview.
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Re: [tw] Re: running tw5 without install

2016-02-19 Thread Arlen Beiler
That warning is more of a courtesy notice that you haven't specified those
two plugins to the tiddlywiki.info file in the data directory, as they are
required to synchronize the changes between the browser, the server, and
the file system. It would be interesting to see if there is a way to use
the tiddlyweb plugin with a server that isn't running TiddlyWiki.

-Arlen

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> Hi,
> Thanks now it works.
>
> greetings,
> simon
>
>
> Am 19.02.2016 um 16:10 schrieb Tobias Beer:
>
>> Hi Simon,
>>
>> If you want to run it via node, and have it sync changes back from the
>> browser to your filesystem, you need to either add these two plugins to
>> your tiddlywiki.info or otherwise initialize your wiki folder from the
>> "server" edition:
>>
>> $ node tiddlywiki.js mywiki --init server
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Tobias.
>>
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[tw] Re: TWC: Using TW as a musical scratchpad with BopLand.org services

2016-02-19 Thread Rowan Corbett
I've been trying to get this to work as well. I'm using 5.1.11 but can't 
seem to get any of the above examples to function.
Has something changed in the way TW deals with rawmarkup tags?

Rowan

On Monday, July 14, 2014 at 8:55:26 AM UTC-4, Piotr Świerszcz wrote:
>
> Any news? Work in progress?
>
> Piotr
>  
> W dniu czwartek, 17 października 2013 03:23:02 UTC+2 użytkownik Måns 
> napisał:
>>
>> Hi TWafficionados
>>
>> Just found out how easy it is to write,edit and publish musical notes in 
>> a TW* - and wanted to share my new found insight with you:
>>
>> 1) Write: http://my.bopland.org/render.js";>   in 
>> your MarkupPostHead tiddler (save & reload)
>>
>> 2) Create a template eg. "Bop" containing: 
>>
>> 
>> 
>> $1
>> 
>>  
>>
>>
>> 3) Use it like this:
>>
>> <> Your musical code here
>> ">>
>>
>>
>> My example: BopNotes 
>> 
>>
>> Have fun :-)
>>
>> Cheers Måns Mårtensson
>>
>> *) You'll need to be connected to the internet to use it.
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: running tw5 without install

2016-02-19 Thread Simon Eigeldinger

Hi,
Thanks now it works.

greetings,
simon


Am 19.02.2016 um 16:10 schrieb Tobias Beer:

Hi Simon,

If you want to run it via node, and have it sync changes back from the
browser to your filesystem, you need to either add these two plugins to
your tiddlywiki.info or otherwise initialize your wiki folder from the
"server" edition:

$ node tiddlywiki.js mywiki --init server

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[tw] Re: running tw5 without install

2016-02-19 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Simon,

If you want to run it via node, and have it sync changes back from the 
browser to your filesystem, you need to either add these two plugins to 
your tiddlywiki.info or otherwise initialize your wiki folder from the 
"server" edition:

$ node tiddlywiki.js mywiki --init server

Best wishes,

Tobias. 

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[tw] Re: Proposal: make list-before and list-after fields accept multiple titles

2016-02-19 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Matthew,
 

> Is there any system or procedure for making backwards incompatible changes 
> like this?  Or is it just "too late, tough luck" (not that I'll be upset, 
> just trying to understand)
>

>From what I understand that's a per case decision making process and 
depends on our ability to either invent acceptably non-backwards compatible 
ways (the above proposed syntax) or alternative methods (e.g. new fields).

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins within Plugins, Shadows within Shadows

2016-02-19 Thread Tobias Beer
Hi Jed, Scott,
 

> Do you think it is important to have it be a single thing you import?
>

I very much think so. Some things are more like "apps", i.e. plugin bundles 
+ templates  + demo content, etc
As for node, we can work it in a granular fashion using a tiddlywiki.info.
For standalone, you'd have to handle individual bits, manually, for every 
wiki.

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[tw] running tw5 without install

2016-02-19 Thread Simon Eigeldinger

Hi all,

I just tried to run tiddlywiki 5.1.11 as portable as possible.
i also got node.js 5.6.0 for windows running without installation.
i received a error message that some plugins wheren't found in the 
tiddlywiki.info file.


Here's the error message:

$ node tiddlywiki.js mywiki --init

Copied edition 'empty' to mywiki

$ node tiddlywiki.js mywiki --server

Serving on 127.0.0.1:8080
(press ctrl-C to exit)
Warning: Plugins required for client-server operation 
("tiddlywiki/filesystem" and "tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb") are missing from 
tiddlywiki.info file


The plan is to run node.js which is just a executable file (node.exe) 
and tiddlywiki 5.1.11 from a USB stick.


greetings,
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Syntax highlighting / CodeMirror not working for me

2016-02-19 Thread Jed Carty
I am not aware of anything that gives syntax highlighting or completion to the 
tiddlywiki editor. 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Syntax highlighting / CodeMirror not working for me

2016-02-19 Thread HC Haase
 

I have the same problem though highlight work when the text field is set to 
some code (java, html etc).

Code mirror gives me line-numbers, but non of all that nice stuff like 
closing bracket and all that. 

I didnt enable any thing.

Den tirsdag den 16. februar 2016 kl. 03.32.47 UTC+1 skrev Hegart Dmishiv:
>
> I have two {{DesignWrite}} TW5 instances[1 
> 
> ][2 
> 
> ] and my offline TW5 instance, all of which have the CodeMirror 
>  and the Highlight.js 
>  plugins installed. None of my 
> TW instances have syntax highlighting working when I edit a tiddler. I 
> can't even see syntax highlighting on the plugin demo site 
> . I've tried it 
> from both Firefox v44.0 and Midori  web 
> browsers. I'm running Lubuntu  v14.04 LTS as my 
> operating system. Is there something else I need to enable in order to get 
> syntax highlighting to work properly? 
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[tw] Re: Proposal: make list-before and list-after fields accept multiple titles

2016-02-19 Thread Matthew Lauber
Yeah, that was my concern.  I thought it would be worth raising though, 
considering how much additional utility it could provide.  Is there any 
system or procedure for making backwards incompatible changes like this? 
 Or is it just "too late, tough luck" (not that I'll be upset, just trying 
to understand)

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> Hi Matthew,
>
> Good point. I'm afraid this would be a non backwards-compatible change, 
> though.
> The only way to go about it would be new fields, or perhaps some 
> field-value prefix that has TiddlyWiki retroactively interpret fields as 
> list-fields, e.g:
>
> list-before: as-list => foo [[bar baz]]
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias.
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Re: [tw] Re: Very slow on android

2016-02-19 Thread HC Haase
 

Thanks for the reply’s.
Well it is a bit big, around 12mb. But I think I only have one pic I can 
remove so it's not going to do much. I have around 850 tiddlers and quite a 
lot of plug-ins.
I would not like to partition my data, since it would break the idea of one 
file with everything. But maybe that’s my best option.


Is thee a way to transclude a tiddler form another tiddlywiki, like when 
you load an external img? or would that just make it load it and make it 
slow again? 



I certainly agree with you that mobile devices is going to be more central. 
And it a shame that TW don’t preform well there. But TW still have the 
advantage of being a single file, open and portable tool. I think that many 
of the note apps that exist have too much lock in effect for me to trust it 
all my precious notes. 


HC

Den søndag den 14. februar 2016 kl. 22.33.51 UTC+1 skrev Mark S.:
>
> An external link to a separate TW in the same directory as the current TW 
> would look like:
>
>[ext[TW Testbed|TestBed515.htm]]
>
> An image link to an external image in a subdirectory of the current 
> directory would look like:
>
>   [img[2014/Transit/2014-Subway-Schedule-Green-Line.jpg]]
>
> However, I'm thinking lately that it might be better to go with an image 
> macro system as outlined on Tobias Beer's site (
> http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#External%20Image%20Path)
>
> The advantage here is that you can separate and sync images separately 
> from the TW file. So, for instance, you might want your image files to 
> reside on an SD card rather than taking up space in your main memory.
>
> In terms of collecting information while on your android, it might be more 
> efficient to save the images using some existing tool (evernote, ES file 
> manager) to save the images and then later manipulate them on your desktop.
>
> On your desktop  you can use the local snip mode of tiddlyclip (
> http://tiddlyclip.tiddlyspot.com/) . What you do is navigate to the file 
> directory of your images in one tab, and then use the tiddlyclip local 
> image feature to send  your image links into TW on another tab.
>
> Tiddlyclip is configurable, so it might be possible to have it create 
> Tobias'  macro instead of an image reference on the fly. I haven't tried 
> that yet, but that would make it easier to have linked images created 
> associated with image paths that can be changed based on current context.
>
> These challenges on the Android are part of the reason I haven't embraced 
> TW5 fully yet. I think the future of computing for most of us is going to 
> be more about mobile devices and less about desktop machines.  That said, 
> TW5 is just about the only supported open source information manager that 
> works on all platforms out there. 
>
> HTH
> Mark 
>  
>
>
>
> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 1:07:41 PM UTC-8, Pit.W. wrote:
>>
>>
>> *links to each other
>> *moving them into external image files
>>
>> ... some practical advice (ho-to) on the above would be 
>> welcome...,especially on how to link TWs to each other.
>>
>> Pit.W
>>
>>
>> Am 14.02.2016 um 21:04 schrieb 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki:
>>
>> How big is your TW? One of the weaknesses of TW is that is not an indexed 
>> database system. So once you've done everything reasonable like you alredy 
>> have, you either have to get a more powerful device or reduce the size of 
>> your data set.
>>
>> One thing you could is to partition your data into separate TW's that 
>> have links to each other. So you might have one TW for work and the other 
>> for home, or split off contacts from the rest of your data.Or split off 
>> frequently referenced data from "archived" data. And, of course, you have 
>> imported images, consider moving them into external image files.
>>
>> HTH
>> Mark
>>
>> On Sunday, February 14, 2016 at 6:38:59 AM UTC-8, HC Haase wrote: 
>>>
>>> Both in andtiddlywiki and FF it takes minimum 18 seconds to open my 
>>> tiddlywiki. Can I do annything to speed it up or make it nobile friendly? 
>>>
>>> I have made it start on a simple tiddler and only show open tiddlers in 
>>> the menu tab.
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Plugins within Plugins, Shadows within Shadows

2016-02-19 Thread Jed Carty
I have never seen this done. I am not sure how plugins inside plugins would 
work. This is one thing you could do with tiddler bundles but I don't have 
any of the nice features from the core import mechanism yet so if you want 
to go that way be careful.
Do you think it is important to have it be a single thing you import? It 
may be easier to have a tiddlyspot where you have an empty wiki populated 
with your desired plugins and then just download a copy of it when you want 
a new one. That way other people can do the same thing easily and if we get 
the plugin libraries and twederation set up the way we would like updating 
the plugins on your blank wiki would be easy.

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