date:20160617

Hi Mark

In the release of the twEbook I have disabled the ability for readers to
add, edit or save content using the tiddlywiki platform.

Please note that I expect in excess of 95% of readers to be interacting
with the twEbook on mobile devices ( phone & tablets ). That means access
to cloud services within the eBook ( NOT so common .. yet!! )

Tiddlywiki is perfectly suited to embeds, online interaction etc - how many
tiddlywikis have you created with ,  wrote:

> As an eBook, if you take away the ability to save, you also take away the
> ability to have annotations. Probably worth thinking about annotations and
> bookmarks in future ebooks. An annotated ebook could be passed among
> friends who could add their thoughts.
>
> Mark
>
> On Monday, December 30, 2013 at 9:02:12 AM UTC-8, NODEGAMRA wrote:
>>
>> Hi to all...
>> I am loving TW5, I am a new user and I would like for some one to point
>> me in the right direction.
>>
>> I am a board gamer and I am putting together a FAQs for some of the games
>> I play.
>> Mi goal is to be able to distribute the FAQs to the gaming community as a
>> read only file, for offline viewing.
>> Nothing fancy the default snow white theme works great, I want to keep it
>> simple and lightweight.
>>
>> I have my first FAQ ready to go, but...
>> I would like to hide or remove access to the inner workings of TW5.
>> I would also like to hide of remove the sidebar, toolbar and the save,
>> edit and control panel functions.
>>
>> Any help, info or links you guys can provide would be greatly appreciated.
>> Thank you.
>>
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[tw] Re: TW5 - Make it read only permanently

As an eBook, if you take away the ability to save, you also take away the 
ability to have annotations. Probably worth thinking about annotations and 
bookmarks in future ebooks. An annotated ebook could be passed among 
friends who could add their thoughts.

Mark

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>
> Hi to all...
> I am loving TW5, I am a new user and I would like for some one to point me 
> in the right direction.
>
> I am a board gamer and I am putting together a FAQs for some of the games 
> I play.
> Mi goal is to be able to distribute the FAQs to the gaming community as a 
> read only file, for offline viewing. 
> Nothing fancy the default snow white theme works great, I want to keep it 
> simple and lightweight.
>
> I have my first FAQ ready to go, but...
> I would like to hide or remove access to the inner workings of TW5.
> I would also like to hide of remove the sidebar, toolbar and the save, 
> edit and control panel functions.
>
> Any help, info or links you guys can provide would be greatly appreciated.
> Thank you.
>
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] converting standard Tiddlywiki to Node.js Tiddlywiki (and back)

2016-06-17 Thread RichardWilliamSmith

Hi Bob,

When you run the node version, you are accessing your wiki over http, which 
means that it cant access regular files on your filing system unless 
they're also being served over http - it's a security feature - you can run 
a separate server for them if that's the solution you're looking for, but 
it might be easier to incorporate them directly into the wiki.

What is your use-case for trying out the node version? I have some work to 
post soon which makes it easier to maintain a stand-alone wiki alongside a 
pair of folders containing it's images and pdfs - this allows one to keep 
the html file small and fast. If you can explain your preferred workflow or 
what you're trying to achieve, we should be able to figure out the best way 
to do it.

Regards,
Richard

On Saturday, June 18, 2016 at 4:04:00 AM UTC+10, Bob Flandard wrote:
>
> Hi Jeremy (or anyone),
>
> The standalone to Node.js drag and drop method worked well (very slick 
> interface for selecting tiddlers to import), but whereas a link to a video 
> clip would play the clip in a new browser tab, the link is now inactive. 
> Sample link = 
> file:///C:/Users/Bob/Videos/Advanced%20Surface%20Repair%20Techniques.mp4#t=0:01:01,0:01:23.
>
> Any thoughts on how to fix the links?
>
> Another small issue is that the original dates displayed on the tiddler, 
> all get replaced with today's date.
>
> Extra info. the links are created by the following macros in a tiddler 
> tagged $:/tags/Macro:
>
> \define vid(start, end , path, file)
>  target="_blank">$start$ ˃ $end$
> \end
>
> \define videolink(start:'0:00:00', end:"Finish")
> <$macrocall $name="vid" start="$start$" end="$end$" path={{!!path}} 
> file={{!!file}} />
> \end
>
> 
>
> Thanks and regards, Bob
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 - Make it read only permanently

 Hi c pa

I'm ReadOnly -ing my Final TW as an eBook - which works fine

I am applying that as my final, distributable product.

If what you suggest is worth doing - I would be grateful to see the end
result and any accompanying Guide Notes, I just don't have any free time
ATM to pursue your suggestion - I am not a coder - so it already daunts me

Cheers John

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> Oh this is an easy one.
> #1 Edit the edit template and change it to look exactly like the view
> template
> #2 Open up the tiddlywiki in a text editor, find the shadow edit template,
> and make it look exactly like the view template.
> #Save the text file
> #Load in a browser and test
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Re: [tw] [TW5] converting standard Tiddlywiki to Node.js Tiddlywiki (and back)

2016-06-17 Thread Bob Flandard

Hi Jeremy (or anyone),

The standalone to Node.js drag and drop method worked well (very slick 
interface for selecting tiddlers to import), but whereas a link to a video 
clip would play the clip in a new browser tab, the link is now inactive. 
Sample link = 
file:///C:/Users/Bob/Videos/Advanced%20Surface%20Repair%20Techniques.mp4#t=0:01:01,0:01:23.

Any thoughts on how to fix the links?

Another small issue is that the original dates displayed on the tiddler, 
all get replaced with today's date.

Extra info. the links are created by the following macros in a tiddler 
tagged $:/tags/Macro:

\define vid(start, end , path, file)
$start$ ˃ $end$
\end

\define videolink(start:'0:00:00', end:"Finish")
<$macrocall $name="vid" start="$start$" end="$end$" path={{!!path}} 
file={{!!file}} />
\end



Thanks and regards, Bob

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Re: [tw] Re: Navigating and transcluding Slices...Missing Features for the atomic concept:

>> Can you give an example of #3. I've never had luck calling a widget from 
inside a widget and I would like to know how it's done

Oh right. I do all my editing from dashboards because all my tiddlers are 
structured. The concept is as follows:

Analysis


# Decide on a structure for your tiddlers
#* Example "Book" would have the following fields
#** Title
#** Authors
#** Publisher
#** My random ramblings
#** My Review
#** Plot synopsis
#** ISBN Number

Discussion
=

* My random ramblings is a good candidate for the text field
* My Review, and Plot synopsis are good candidates for slices
* The title of the book should be put in the caption field because two 
books can have the same title
* ISBN is unique for books so put that in the title filed (The name of the 
tiddler - must be unique)
* Authors can be multiple so this would be a list of authors populated from 
tiddlers tagged "author"
** This requires a macro to populate it. 
** You can use crazyListHere from cpashow.tiddlyspot.com 
** As you might suspect from the name, my macro currently does all sorts of 
stuff in addition to populating a list
* Publisher is a text name populated using a select from tiddlers tagged 
"publisher"

Code a template
=

Create a tiddler to act as the "template" for books

title: "book"-- named the same as the tag used to define books
text:"""
ISBN: {{!!title}} 
Edit ISBN: <$edit field="title" />

Authors: <> 

Publisher: <$select field="publisher"> -- <$list 
filter="[tag[publisher]]">> > 
<> 

My random ramblings: <$edit field="text" />

My Review: <$edit-text tag="textarea" field="review" />

Plot synopsis: <$edit-text tag="textarea"  field="synopsis" />
"""

Code a dashboard

title: "Book Dashboard"
text: """
Add a book: <$edit-text tag="input"  tiddler="$:/temp/newbook" />
<$button>
Add book
<$action-setfield $field="currentbook" $value={{$:/temp/newbook}} />
<$action-setfield $tiddler={{$:/temp/newbook}} $field="tags" 
$value="book" />
<$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/newbook" $field="text" $value="" />

Select a book to edit:
   <$select field="currentbook">
-- 
   <$list filter="[tag[book]]" variable="Current_Book" emptyMessage="""
  There are no books available 
   """>
 > >
 <>
 
   
  
<$tiddler tiddler={{!!currentbook}} >
<$transclude tiddler="book" />

"""

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[tw] Re: What would be needed to create an INSTANT (READER) PUBLISH mode?

Ciao Mark S.

What I am really interested in is when folk like you devise a suited way 
forward can make a published version that permits stuff like bookmarks and 
annotation but can STOP everything else. The point being its a DEFINITIVE 
TEXT, not an editable one. 

I am convinced the combination of basic bookmarking and (maybe) verse level 
notes will be be intuitively right for the audience for stuff like the 
Bible.
 
Right now in TW this kind of RESTRICTING full-editing AND allowing 
bookmarking and adding notes is not possible.Yet opening the whole editing 
interface is CONFUSING & not right in a way beacuse the text is GIVEN. BUT 
not having any tools is equally bad. 

Its quite a BIG issue IMO.

Josiah

On Friday, 17 June 2016 19:11:34 UTC+2, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I added Sticky notes to the KJV Bible project, but haven't heard what 
> people think of the idea.
>
> In general, once you have your content in the smallest "semantic unit" 
> (maybe paragraphs), it should be easy to display it with the option to 
> annotate or bookmark. A side entry in the TOC would display bookmarks and 
> annotations.
>
>  Mark
>
> On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 5:36:53 AM UTC-7, Josiah wrote:
>>
>> Ciao 
>>
>> To me it seems ODD that TW does not natively have an INSTANT 
>> READER-PUBLISH mode.
>>
>> I do NOT mean a means to get an offline TW online. Several exist.
>>
>> I mean a direct, built in method, to transform an editable TW into a 
>> NON-EDITABLE one & auto-upload it, but still dynamic, with all features 
>> except editing.
>>
>> To take that further, a SEMI-EDITABLE version option that could allow for 
>> edited notes and bookmarks but prevents change of existing tiddlers.
>>
>> Has anyone done this? Is it of interest?
>>
>> It seems to me there is a huge potential for semi-editable versions of 
>> classic texts as well as read-only versions.
>>
>> For years I used RadioUserland to maintain a blog. One of its greatest 
>> features was INSTANT transform of editable (desktop) to directly published 
>> read-only (online).
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: What would be needed to create an INSTANT (READER) PUBLISH mode?

I added Sticky notes to the KJV Bible project, but haven't heard what 
people think of the idea.

In general, once you have your content in the smallest "semantic unit" 
(maybe paragraphs), it should be easy to display it with the option to 
annotate or bookmark. A side entry in the TOC would display bookmarks and 
annotations.

 Mark

On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 5:36:53 AM UTC-7, Josiah wrote:
>
> Ciao 
>
> To me it seems ODD that TW does not natively have an INSTANT 
> READER-PUBLISH mode.
>
> I do NOT mean a means to get an offline TW online. Several exist.
>
> I mean a direct, built in method, to transform an editable TW into a 
> NON-EDITABLE one & auto-upload it, but still dynamic, with all features 
> except editing.
>
> To take that further, a SEMI-EDITABLE version option that could allow for 
> edited notes and bookmarks but prevents change of existing tiddlers.
>
> Has anyone done this? Is it of interest?
>
> It seems to me there is a huge potential for semi-editable versions of 
> classic texts as well as read-only versions.
>
> For years I used RadioUserland to maintain a blog. One of its greatest 
> features was INSTANT transform of editable (desktop) to directly published 
> read-only (online).
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] converting standard Tiddlywiki to Node.js Tiddlywiki (and back)

2016-06-17 Thread Bob Flandard

Cor! that was quick,

Thanks Jeremy! I just woke from an afternoon nap and there's the answer. 
And it looks pretty straightforward.

Have a good weekend, Bob

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Re: [tw] Re: Navigating to a specific headline or slice in TW5

Please consider the matter from the viewpoint of  average users.

>
> In fact, slices would become the fundamental unit; an entire tiddler would 
> be a special case of a slice covering the entire tiddler.
>
> Slices are different in several important ways. To start, they are much 
lighter than a full tiddler. Each tiddler has about 60 characters 
overhead.  More importantly, slices are RIGHT THERE while you edit. You 
don't have to click link, then click again to edit the tiddler, then close 
the tiddler, then check how it all works back in the main document. You 
don't have to wrack your head to to write a unique descriptive link for 
every semantic unit. You get to see the actual text and not a widget. You 
don't have to worry that changing a tiddler title  will break a dependent 
document.

Finally, in many case, the article, documents, correspondence etc. IS  the 
"semantic" unit that you want. The tiddler is complete, but you just want 
to to add a bookmark or anchor into the text, or quickly find a particular 
section, without having to explode the document into  a dozen scatter-shot 
pieces. It's unnatural to take a piece of correspondence, for instance, and 
break it into little pieces just so you can quickly access some particular 
piece in the future. Most people would not do that with their real-life 
filing, and it feels strange to do it inside of an electronic document. 

>From a different engineering perspective, each tiddler adds overhead to a 
non-indexed system where every byte represents a performance decrease. It's 
clear that lots of people enjoyed the slice approach in the TWC, and that 
some are going to great lengths to come up with approaches that bring it 
back. 
 
Mark

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[tw] Re: [tw5] Filter operand characters for newline or linebreak?

2016-06-17 Thread Jed Carty

For me this works:

<$list filter='[[bob
joe]splitbefore[
]]'>




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[tw] Re: TW5 - Make it read only permanently

Oh this is an easy one.
#1 Edit the edit template and change it to look exactly like the view 
template
#2 Open up the tiddlywiki in a text editor, find the shadow edit template, 
and make it look exactly like the view template.
#Save the text file
#Load in a browser and test

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] TiddlyWiki code structure and documentation, try 2. Any volunteers?


I'm trying to do this same thing at tw-for-bunnies, but I'm approaching it 
from the other end. Here are my observations (some of which I'm thinking of 
on the fly)

# As a user I need to understand the structure of widgets and macros so I 
can use them myself
  #* The structure of widgets and macros documentation seems to be as 
follows
#** Widget or macro name
#** Widget or macro parameters
#** Widget or macro description
#** Widget or macro examples
#** Widget or macro called_variables
#** Widget or macro usage_by_other_widgets_macros_and_tiddlers 
# As a developer I need to know if the requirement for documentation means 
that I need to change my coding style so I can adopt that standard once and 
then focus on development
  #* Jeremy has adopted the following standards
#** 
#** Code comment includes 
   #*** purpose
#** Separate doc tiddler to document the macro or widget
#** doc tiddler text field contains
   #*** Widget or macro name
   #*** Widget or macro parameters
   #*** Widget or macro description
   #*** [[Link to]] Widget or macro examples
#** The code itself contains
   #*** Widget or macro called_variables
# As a documentation developer I need widgets and macros coded in a 
standard format so I can extract the documentation rather than documenting 
each widget or macro individually

It would be helpful if we could decide on a standard way to approach this 
and then Jeremy could publish that standard as part of the core

It seems we have much of a standard format defined for us. Once a standard 
is established, writing tiddlers and macros to build a documentation 
management interface would be fairly simple. 

Next step would be figuring out a pipeline to feed community developed 
documentation and examples into the core. (This is the internet so the 
horde will skip and mix steps but . . .) Something like

# Anyone   develops things on their own
# Collaborators   post code to a "test it out and provide comments here" 
website such as twederation
# Moderators  browse the twederation to identify "good stuff" and 
provide professional polish
# Contributors Post polished tiddlers to github
# Jeremysays "Hey everyone needs to know this" and puts it in 
the core docs

I'm thinking of implementing the following in my documentation standard. 

# Segregating each widget or macro into a separate tiddler
# Use the following fields in the macro or widget tiddler itself to outline 
the macro usage
#* name= widget or macro name
#* parameters  = List of parameter names
#* description = Long description
#* caption = Short description
#* tags= If contains "$:/tags/macro" this is a macro
#* type= if application/javascript this is a widget
# Use the following in each macro or widget example tiddler
#* example-for = List of macros or tiddlers that this example documents

Why I haven't adopted this yet
# During development of macros, I find that writing a whole bunch of macros 
together in one tiddler is the most efficient way to develop for a 
particular use-case since the macros tend to be dependent on each other

What I'm using instead
# Each use case is a separate tiddler with a whole bunch of macro 
definitions
# If there is only one macro in the tiddler, I add the following text and 
make sure the display is illustrative

! macro name
* ``
* 

# If there are many macros in the one tiddler, I add text after the 
definitions to create a table, one row per macro with the illustration

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Re: [tw] [TW5] converting standard Tiddlywiki to Node.js Tiddlywiki (and back)

2016-06-17 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Hi Bob

> Sorry if this question is naive. I followed the instructions to install a 
> Node.js version of TW (Windows) and all went smoothly. How do I convert my 
> existing standard single file TW into a Node.js version, and then convert it 
> back if I need to? My standard TW has some non-standard templates and 
> possibly other non-core "system" tiddlers.

The easiest way to convert a TiddlyWIki standalone HTML file into the Node.js 
layout is to run the Node.js wiki in client-server mode, and then import the 
HTML file by drag and drop in the browser. (You can also use the --load 
command; see /bin/ginsu.sh in the TW5 repo).

To convert the other way, either click the “save changes” button in the browser 
to save a snapshot of the wiki as a standalone HTML file, or use the 
--rendertiddler command:

--rendertiddler $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/tiddlyweb/save/offline index.html 
text/plain

Best wishes

Jeremy.


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Re: [tw] Re: Navigating and transcluding Slices...Missing Features for the atomic concept:

Can you give an example of #3. I've never had luck calling a widget from 
inside a widget and I would like to know how it's done.

All of that, just to call a slice, which could have been made in a second 
in TWC. Am I the only one who thinks this is incredibly daunting, 
especially for new-comers?

Mark

On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 7:51:52 AM UTC-7, c pa wrote:
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> Folks,
>
> Whenever I feel the need to include slices in my tiddlers, I implement 
> each slice using a combination of the following:
>
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> widget. 
> 2. the same field and an <$transclude mode="block" $field="slicename" />  
> widget.
> 3. a tag (I use edit) and a <$list filter="[all[current]tag[edit]]" 
> emptymessage=""" -- put view widget here --- """> --put edit widget here -- 
>  widget to switch the display between edit and view of the field
>
> Benefits
> 1. Allows me to stay with the tiddlywiki core path
> 2. Imposes standard slice names
> 3. Allows me to look up and manipulate all slice names
>
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[tw] [TW5] converting standard Tiddlywiki to Node.js Tiddlywiki (and back)

2016-06-17 Thread Bob Flandard

Hello,

Sorry if this question is naive. I followed the instructions to install a 
Node.js version of TW (Windows) and all went smoothly. How do I convert my 
existing standard single file TW into a Node.js version, and then convert 
it back if I need to? My standard TW has some non-standard templates and 
possibly other non-core "system" tiddlers.

Thanks, Bob

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[tw] What happened to HORIZONTAL SPACE? (queries on tranclusion display)

One of the weirdest aspects of the net is how the metaphor of "the page",
despite a potentially infinite 2 dimensional viewport, most of the time
gets limited horizontal space and enforces obligatory infinite vertical
reading.

I am absolutely sure THAT is hampering modes of understanding.

The vertical fetish runs through most everything.

I have a USE CASE idea to do this:

(1) transfer a fairly large database to TW of film that lists directors,
actors etc. Each record has a UNIQUE TITLE.

(2) create one or more TW's of iframed clips of that particular title

(3) create potentially many Tweets to Twitter about the film.

I want them grouped by the film title. But each form (1-3) is radically
differently formatted. It would be easiest to collect them with
transclusion.

Right now I would get

(1) Data
(2) Clips
(3) Tweets

For this application ...

(1) Data (2) Clips (3) Tweets

... would be far better in an infinite horizontal plane.

Has anyone played with that?

Its systemic transclusion with stylistic (visual) freedom that goes left,
not down.

Some thoughts. Any comments?

Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 as a better option than ePub.

hi there

TOTALLY agree
▶️ I've introduced hundreds to TW - and if each of us TW aficionados has
been doing the same - then there's a big userbase out there -
but the increased complexity confuses many, ( like it's built for nerds
and not Joe Average )

Following the lead of Ghost.org and their clean and simple approach to
pages/posts and markup /// or pen.io if you like
I have everyone keeping it simple and safe

As for eBooks, tiddlywiki is a God-sent marvel and an invigorating new
format to revel in. It flows better, DOWN a page actually is more
accommodating that 20 flicks to the right.

Navigation via tags and buttons are seconds to produce with a bit of
forethought.

The whole process is simplified dramatically. I have created twBooks in
under an hour compared to 3-10 times longer preparing a legible ePub. Let's
not even touch PDFs.
No front and back end. No dramas following daft protocols, the likes that
PressBooks delivers.

Clean.
responsive.
Beautiful if you want it to be

It's even a website that you can take offline and still enjoy ..

Let's keep in touch,
This is only just starting to get interesting.

Cheers
John Newell
Pref - bluemi...@me.com

On Friday, 17 June 2016, Josiah  wrote:

> Ciao John Newell
>
> I am very much in harmony with the idea of wide USAGE without needing full
> blown editing.
>
> By way of background it seems to me that there is a huge userbase for TW
> that never appears here and is hard to document because (by design) TW does
> not track users.
>
> The MASS effect of TW's that are mainly read is something of interest to
> me. "Semi-editing" modes are also interesting. Like, for instance, to
> create versions with facility to ONLY add notes & bookmarks.
>
> Regards
> Josiah
>
> On Friday, 17 June 2016 09:14:34 UTC+2, John Newell wrote:
>>
>> Missed a bit .
>>
>> My objective is to have thousands of reader using tiddlywiki - with ease
>> ( though not editing it ) . Or at least - not in the way you'd imagine.
>>
>> Cheers
>> JN
>>
>> John Newell
>> MAGILLA ENTERPRISES
>> 0419992172
>> jo...@social.as
>> tw: @magillamax
>>
>> On 17 Jun 2016, at 4:24 PM, Mat  wrote:
>>
>> Hi John, you mentioned in another thread that your book is about to be
>> released.
>>
>> Could I, on behalf o f the community, ask you to share your final
>> TW-as-eBook setup (without content) ? It sounds like a spot-on thing as an
>> edition and I'm sure it would be very appealing to a lot of people -
>> including people who would not otherwise begin using TW.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> <:-)
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Re: [tw] Re: Navigating and transcluding Slices...Missing Features for the atomic concept:

Folks,

Whenever I feel the need to include slices in my tiddlers, I implement each 
slice using a combination of the following:

1. a field and an <$edit-text tag="textarea" $field="slicename" />  widget. 
2. the same field and an <$transclude mode="block" $field="slicename" />  
widget.
3. a tag (I use edit) and a <$list filter="[all[current]tag[edit]]" 
emptymessage=""" -- put view widget here --- """> --put edit widget here -- 
 widget to switch the display between edit and view of the field

Benefits
1. Allows me to stay with the tiddlywiki core path
2. Imposes standard slice names
3. Allows me to look up and manipulate all slice names


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[tw] [tw5] Filter operand characters for newline or linebreak?

2016-06-17 Thread Mat

+[splitbefore[-]]

...works great for splitting before (or actually, after) the "-" character. 

But what do I put in its place to split at newline or paragraph breaks? 
I've searched around and cannot find any solution.

I've also attempted to use regexp[], where it is easy to symbolize e.g 
paragraph breaks in the operand - but the output of a regexp seems to 
always be the full input so there is no way to split at the operand. Or are 
there any ways to make regexp actually manipulate the input?

Thank you!

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: [Happy Birthday Jeremy]

2016-06-17 Thread David Gifford

well, I am a couple days late to the party, but hey, hope you had a happy 
birthday Jeremy!

Dave

On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 6:40:30 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Thank you everybody for the birthday wishes, much appreciated! A grand 
> thing about being so old is that birthdays now seem to come all the time!
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> On 17 Jun 2016, at 12:15, Eric Shulman  
> wrote:
>
> On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 3:39:06 AM UTC-7, Josiah wrote:
>>
>> Remind me not to invite you to my funeral. lol. x
>>
>
> That would require permanent allocation of space for a RESTful API.
>
> -e
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting the wizard wizard plugin, which may need a better name.

Jed

I am often an idiot on computing. But, fuck, I can see that is extremely 
elegant. Why because its not looking like "time out", its really well 
integrated. Giving full access as you go along. Its not a slideshow as we 
know it. Its is, but its more.

Best
Josiah

On Friday, 17 June 2016 13:55:23 UTC+2, Jed Carty wrote:
>
> I have added some things to the wizard. You can now control make it so 
> that the 'Next' button is only visible if certain conditions are met.
>
> It uses a list of filters and checks each filter individually. This means 
> you have have a set of different unrelated conditions that all need to be 
> met before the 'Next' button appears. And you can also optionally have a 
> message when these conditions aren't met. This is one of those things that 
> may be more interesting than the application I made it for.
>
> The updated version is here 
> .
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[tw] Re:

Ciao Xavier & John

It interests me a lot to LEVERAGE off the the huge e-text repositories that 
now exists. Many of them have very fair copyright regulations that allow 
their e-texts to be used, often without even acknowledgement.

I suspect that an initiative around this, which there are often, in this 
list, intimations of, could get TW much more widely used.

In another thread I have pointed to a couple of things that would help. At 
the moment its not so easy to make a "semi-edtibable" TW. I think it would 
be MOST RELEVANT for e-texts to allow addition of (1) notes (2) bookmarks. 
But WITHOUT the rest of the editing system.

Best wishes
Josiah

On Friday, 17 June 2016 10:37:55 UTC+2, Xavier wrote:
>
> Hi John,
>
> I believe what TW is capable of FAR EXCEEDS the functionality and BEAUTY 
>> of other eBook formats - and my limited coding ability holds me back from 
>> making this THE future for eBooks - yes - I am an advocate and 
>> part-visionary as I see in TW what hasn't been used to advantage 
>>
>
> As a digital publishing professional, let me second your statement 
> heartily. I think we are not that far from being able to import 
> automatically any ePub in TW5, or via a mere drag and drop. Apart from 
> writing an ad hoc importer, I think that the only remaining obstacle is the 
> handling of HTML anchors. Once we get the ability to convert ePub to TW5 
> (we are talking about potentially 4 million ebooks), we'd have a book 
> format that is truly rooted into the Web, instead of just having PDF 
> replaced with HTML. That would make a huge difference for readers and 
> writers.
>
> Now, that doesn't mean that the publishing world is about to be conquered: 
> ebooks are currently sold mostly by vendors (Amazon, Apple,..) who don't 
> like open formats.
> 
>
> Xavier.
>
> On 17 Jun 2016, at 4:24 PM, Mat  wrote:
>
> Hi John, you mentioned in another thread that your book is about to be 
>> released.
>>
>> Could I, on behalf o f the community, ask you to share your final 
>> TW-as-eBook setup (without content) ? It sounds like a spot-on thing as an 
>> edition and I'm sure it would be very appealing to a lot of people - 
>> including people who would not otherwise begin using TW.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> <:-)
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[tw] What would be needed to create an INSTANT (READER) PUBLISH mode?

Ciao 

To me it seems ODD that TW does not natively have an INSTANT READER-PUBLISH 
mode.

I do NOT mean a means to get an offline TW online. Several exist.

I mean a direct, built in method, to transform an editable TW into a 
NON-EDITABLE one & auto-upload it, but still dynamic, with all features 
except editing.

To take that further, a SEMI-EDITABLE version option that could allow for 
edited notes and bookmarks but prevents change of existing tiddlers.

Has anyone done this? Is it of interest?

It seems to me there is a huge potential for semi-editable versions of 
classic texts as well as read-only versions.

For years I used RadioUserland to maintain a blog. One of its greatest 
features was INSTANT transform of editable (desktop) to directly published 
read-only (online).

Best wishes
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Presenting the wizard wizard plugin, which may need a better name.

2016-06-17 Thread Jed Carty

I have added some things to the wizard. You can now control make it so that 
the 'Next' button is only visible if certain conditions are met.

It uses a list of filters and checks each filter individually. This means 
you have have a set of different unrelated conditions that all need to be 
met before the 'Next' button appears. And you can also optionally have a 
message when these conditions aren't met. This is one of those things that 
may be more interesting than the application I made it for.

The updated version is here 
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Re: [tw] Re: [Happy Birthday Jeremy]

2016-06-17 Thread Jeremy Ruston

Thank you everybody for the birthday wishes, much appreciated! A grand thing 
about being so old is that birthdays now seem to come all the time!

Best wishes

Jeremy


> On 17 Jun 2016, at 12:15, Eric Shulman  wrote:
> 
> On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 3:39:06 AM UTC-7, Josiah wrote:
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> 
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[tw] Re: [Happy Birthday Jeremy]

2016-06-17 Thread Eric Shulman

On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 3:39:06 AM UTC-7, Josiah wrote:
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> Remind me not to invite you to my funeral. lol. x
>

That would require permanent allocation of space for a RESTful API.

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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 as a better option than ePub.

Ciao John Newell

I am very much in harmony with the idea of wide USAGE without needing full 
blown editing.

By way of background it seems to me that there is a huge userbase for TW 
that never appears here and is hard to document because (by design) TW does 
not track users.

The MASS effect of TW's that are mainly read is something of interest to 
me. "Semi-editing" modes are also interesting. Like, for instance, to 
create versions with facility to ONLY add notes & bookmarks.

Regards
Josiah

On Friday, 17 June 2016 09:14:34 UTC+2, John Newell wrote:
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> Missed a bit .
>
> My objective is to have thousands of reader using tiddlywiki - with ease ( 
> though not editing it ) . Or at least - not in the way you'd imagine.
>
> Cheers
> JN
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> On 17 Jun 2016, at 4:24 PM, Mat  wrote:
>
> Hi John, you mentioned in another thread that your book is about to be 
> released.
>
> Could I, on behalf o f the community, ask you to share your final 
> TW-as-eBook setup (without content) ? It sounds like a spot-on thing as an 
> edition and I'm sure it would be very appealing to a lot of people - 
> including people who would not otherwise begin using TW.
>
> Thank you!
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[tw] Re: [Happy Birthday Jeremy]

Remind me not to invite you to my funeral. lol. x

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[tw]

2016-06-17 Thread Xavier Cazin

Hi John,

I believe what TW is capable of FAR EXCEEDS the functionality and BEAUTY of
> other eBook formats - and my limited coding ability holds me back from
> making this THE future for eBooks - yes - I am an advocate and
> part-visionary as I see in TW what hasn't been used to advantage
>

As a digital publishing professional, let me second your statement
heartily. I think we are not that far from being able to import
automatically any ePub in TW5, or via a mere drag and drop. Apart from
writing an ad hoc importer, I think that the only remaining obstacle is the
handling of HTML anchors. Once we get the ability to convert ePub to TW5
(we are talking about potentially 4 million ebooks), we'd have a book
format that is truly rooted into the Web, instead of just having PDF
replaced with HTML. That would make a huge difference for readers and
writers.

Now, that doesn't mean that the publishing world is about to be conquered:
ebooks are currently sold mostly by vendors (Amazon, Apple,..) who don't
like open formats.


Xavier.

On 17 Jun 2016, at 4:24 PM, Mat  wrote:

Hi John, you mentioned in another thread that your book is about to be
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Re: [tw] Re: TW5 as a better option than ePub.

Missed a bit .

My objective is to have thousands of reader using tiddlywiki - with ease ( 
though not editing it ) . Or at least - not in the way you'd imagine.

Cheers
JN

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> On 17 Jun 2016, at 4:24 PM, Mat  wrote:
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> Hi John, you mentioned in another thread that your book is about to be 
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