[tw] Re: Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

[codacodercodacoder]

My 2 cents...

Yes to IDs.

No to users creating them. Ever.

 They should be GUIDs.
   Not concatenated titles+dates or anything related to existing tiddler 
data. This will likely fail and scale poorly.
   They must be created "behind the scenes",  but easily discovered/usable 
by experienced users.

Linking should support both titles and GUIDs (either/or)
  Contract: GUID links are robust and must therefore work in any environment
  Contract: titles are "optimistic" and "best effort, good faith" attempts 
at succeeding. In a standalone TW, they'll be as good as they are already.

Eric's "caption" approach is equivalent to my "subtitle" approach. Works 
fine for a TW-book edition I'm developing (very slowly, not published yet). 
And it works fine in the context ("domain") I'm trying to support (no js 
required!).  My Chapters and sections have ID-like titles. My subtitles are 
stored in a subtitle field.

If you're going to TWederate (publish) a given tiddler, I can imagine a 
routine that trawls the text looking for links that do NOT carry a GUID... 
and warn against potential breakages before allowing you to proceed <- off 
the cuff brainfart ;)

Like I said, my 0.02


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[tw] Re: Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

[Josiah]

eric

yeah, its long schlepp around.  :-)

On Sunday, 17 July 2016 03:26:20 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 6:08:11 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> I'm with you on needing a unique identifier -- every real database uses 
>> unique id's.   I was surprised that it wasn't in the TW5 design.
>>
>> I would go further and say that linking *should* occur by ID. The thing 
>> about IDs is that they are immutable. The thing about titles is that they 
>> *change* all the time. Currently, if you change a title, you have to go 
>> back and change every single linking item. This means editing and changing 
>> the mod date of possibly dozens of linked tiddlers. The alternative is that 
>> you are stuck with a non-informative tiddler title possibly for the rest of 
>> the life of the project.
>>
>
> One way to address this is to use the *caption* field as the tiddler's 
> visible "title" (by tweaking the view template), which would allow you to 
> use the real *title* field to hold a unique ID.  There may be a few other 
> places in the core that would need tweaking to also show the caption text 
> (e.g. the contents of tag popups), but it shouldn't be too difficult.
>
> -e
>
>

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[tw] Re: Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

[Eric Shulman]

On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 6:08:11 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I'm with you on needing a unique identifier -- every real database uses 
> unique id's.   I was surprised that it wasn't in the TW5 design.
>
> I would go further and say that linking *should* occur by ID. The thing 
> about IDs is that they are immutable. The thing about titles is that they 
> *change* all the time. Currently, if you change a title, you have to go 
> back and change every single linking item. This means editing and changing 
> the mod date of possibly dozens of linked tiddlers. The alternative is that 
> you are stuck with a non-informative tiddler title possibly for the rest of 
> the life of the project.
>

One way to address this is to use the *caption* field as the tiddler's 
visible "title" (by tweaking the view template), which would allow you to 
use the real *title* field to hold a unique ID.  There may be a few other 
places in the core that would need tweaking to also show the caption text 
(e.g. the contents of tag popups), but it shouldn't be too difficult.

-e

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[tw] Re: Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I'm with you on needing a unique identifier -- every real database uses 
unique id's.   I was surprised that it wasn't in the TW5 design.

I would go further and say that linking *should* occur by ID. The thing 
about IDs is that they are immutable. The thing about titles is that they 
*change* all the time. Currently, if you change a title, you have to go 
back and change every single linking item. This means editing and changing 
the mod date of possibly dozens of linked tiddlers. The alternative is that 
you are stuck with a non-informative tiddler title possibly for the rest of 
the life of the project.

I'm not sure if the hashing is necessary for internal use. In most 
databases, it is sufficient to simply assign an incremented value to an id 
field. For sharing with other tiddlers, (as in federation), of course, it 
becomes necessary to include some sort of database ID as well (like a hash 
of the database address).

On the topic of data tiddlers I'm not sure what you mean. You can already 
use a macro or other mechanism to display the contents of a data tiddler. 
The main problem is that there is only one root object, which means much of 
the data is hidden in complicated structures.

Mark


On Saturday, July 16, 2016 at 4:13:24 PM UTC-7, Dragon Cotterill wrote:
>
> This is just a quick list of some of the thoughts following on from 
> conversations with Mat and Mario at the Pub after the TWEU Meetup. As with 
> any Pub conversations it is likely that most of these ideas will fall by 
> the wayside, but some of the ideas have got me thinking and it's worth 
> getting them logged whilst they are fresh in my mind.
>
> There can be no doubt that TW is a really great concept. But now that 
> we're joining them together (by TWederation) we are going to run into some 
> seriously big road blocks if we're not careful. For example how do we 
> handle the importing of Tiddlers with the same Title?
> I feel that it is very disingenuous to force users to create shared 
> Tiddlers with different names. At the moment we are doing this by adding 
> the creators name to the end of the Tiddler's Title. This I feel is a big 
> mistake. The naming of the Tiddlers should NOT be enforced like this. The 
> creator should be free to name them however they want. But of course this 
> throws a spanner in the works when names clash.
>
> What we need is a unique way of identifying the Tiddler that is visible to 
> TW, but not necessarily to the users. Pretty much every database system has 
> a Key or a Unique ID and I think we need the same.
> Now I know that Jeremy would say that your should be able to link to the 
> Tiddler via the Title, and I fully agree. In any given TW the Title is 
> unique (Shadows not withstanding). So that is the link you would use when 
> linking to them in a given instance. But when a TW is federated, with the 
> same name, which "New Tiddler" do you mean? Because they should all be 
> available.
>
> I propose that each TW should have a UID. It should be comprised of the 
> hash of the URL of the TW, and the hash of the date/time when it was 
> created. And that ID should stay with it for the life of it's existence. 
> Even if it's federated into a new TW, then the ID stays. The only time it 
> should gain a new ID is if it was copied, the copy getting a new UID.
>
> Now when it comes to TWederation, the structure is clear. HASH1 is the 
> parent. HASH2, HASH3 are children of the parent, HASH4 is the child of 
> HASH3. Using this it is very clear how the individual tiddlers should be 
> displayed, now matter what the actual content of them. If a Tiddler is a 
> reply, then it has a parent. If no parent, it's a top level entry.
> Tiddlers change. At present if a federated tiddler is changed, that change 
> is not propagated (or have misunderstood the workings of TWederation? 
> Mat?). If a parent tiddler is deleted, what becomes of the orphans? Yes, 
> there is still much to discuss on this.
>
>
> Now one of the other thoughts I had was in the concept of data Tiddlers. I 
> know Mario wants to see all the data of any given Tiddler, but that's a 
> different matter. :) You should be able to have data WITHOUT the concept of 
> how it should be displayed, but use another Tiddler as the actual layout. 
> We have the ViewTemplate tiddler, but if you break that down to a smaller 
> level you can start to build up the Tiddlers to produce stronger concepts.
> At present TW is geared around Text components. Title, Text and Tags as 
> core values (yes I suppose created, modified and change count are other 
> values too). TW Classic has the Data Plugin ( 
> http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#DataTiddlerPlugin ) which kind of 
> uses this concept. TW5 allows you to add further fields relatively easily. 
> But what if you took it further?
> By opening up TW to the concept of data you could really build up 
> applications. For example a remote weather station server simply outputs a 
> raw tiddler stream of 

[tw] Re: Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

[Josiah]

Ciao Mr Dragon

"There can be no doubt that TW is a really great concept"

TW is NOT a concept. It exists.

Titling in TW is a pain in the arse. But that is not a "federation" issue.

In the best of worlds every Tiddler would have a unique number so you could 
title many tiddlers the same. As is it won't work.The title IS the index.

Josiah



On Sunday, 17 July 2016 01:13:24 UTC+2, Dragon Cotterill wrote:
>
> This is just a quick list of some of the thoughts following on from 
> conversations with Mat and Mario at the Pub after the TWEU Meetup. As with 
> any Pub conversations it is likely that most of these ideas will fall by 
> the wayside, but some of the ideas have got me thinking and it's worth 
> getting them logged whilst they are fresh in my mind.
>
> There can be no doubt that TW is a really great concept. But now that 
> we're joining them together (by TWederation) we are going to run into some 
> seriously big road blocks if we're not careful. For example how do we 
> handle the importing of Tiddlers with the same Title?
> I feel that it is very disingenuous to force users to create shared 
> Tiddlers with different names. At the moment we are doing this by adding 
> the creators name to the end of the Tiddler's Title. This I feel is a big 
> mistake. The naming of the Tiddlers should NOT be enforced like this. The 
> creator should be free to name them however they want. But of course this 
> throws a spanner in the works when names clash.
>
> What we need is a unique way of identifying the Tiddler that is visible to 
> TW, but not necessarily to the users. Pretty much every database system has 
> a Key or a Unique ID and I think we need the same.
> Now I know that Jeremy would say that your should be able to link to the 
> Tiddler via the Title, and I fully agree. In any given TW the Title is 
> unique (Shadows not withstanding). So that is the link you would use when 
> linking to them in a given instance. But when a TW is federated, with the 
> same name, which "New Tiddler" do you mean? Because they should all be 
> available.
>
> I propose that each TW should have a UID. It should be comprised of the 
> hash of the URL of the TW, and the hash of the date/time when it was 
> created. And that ID should stay with it for the life of it's existence. 
> Even if it's federated into a new TW, then the ID stays. The only time it 
> should gain a new ID is if it was copied, the copy getting a new UID.
>
> Now when it comes to TWederation, the structure is clear. HASH1 is the 
> parent. HASH2, HASH3 are children of the parent, HASH4 is the child of 
> HASH3. Using this it is very clear how the individual tiddlers should be 
> displayed, now matter what the actual content of them. If a Tiddler is a 
> reply, then it has a parent. If no parent, it's a top level entry.
> Tiddlers change. At present if a federated tiddler is changed, that change 
> is not propagated (or have misunderstood the workings of TWederation? 
> Mat?). If a parent tiddler is deleted, what becomes of the orphans? Yes, 
> there is still much to discuss on this.
>
>
> Now one of the other thoughts I had was in the concept of data Tiddlers. I 
> know Mario wants to see all the data of any given Tiddler, but that's a 
> different matter. :) You should be able to have data WITHOUT the concept of 
> how it should be displayed, but use another Tiddler as the actual layout. 
> We have the ViewTemplate tiddler, but if you break that down to a smaller 
> level you can start to build up the Tiddlers to produce stronger concepts.
> At present TW is geared around Text components. Title, Text and Tags as 
> core values (yes I suppose created, modified and change count are other 
> values too). TW Classic has the Data Plugin ( 
> http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#DataTiddlerPlugin ) which kind of 
> uses this concept. TW5 allows you to add further fields relatively easily. 
> But what if you took it further?
> By opening up TW to the concept of data you could really build up 
> applications. For example a remote weather station server simply outputs a 
> raw tiddler stream of weather data. You can TWederate that data straight in 
> to get an idea of rainfall. Others could get the exact same data but be 
> more concerned with wind speed and direction. Or both. Or temperature.
> You would write a macro which would take all of the data and display it 
> using the layout of another Tiddler. An iteration over that list would give 
> us a simple table. Another version would format it for feeding into a chart 
> (HighCharts anyone?) Or a data connector that changes it in some way to 
> feed into other components (temperature delta over time? Temp vs Rain?)
> This would give us an extremely powerful, dashboard like configuration.
>
>
>
> As I said, these are just some random thoughts, typed up on a train 
> journey back to London after the TWEU Meetup. They need refining in so many 
> ways, but I feel that they may have some merits.
>
> Discuss...

[tw] Random Thoughts about the new version of TW.

[Dragon Cotterill]

This is just a quick list of some of the thoughts following on from 
conversations with Mat and Mario at the Pub after the TWEU Meetup. As with 
any Pub conversations it is likely that most of these ideas will fall by 
the wayside, but some of the ideas have got me thinking and it's worth 
getting them logged whilst they are fresh in my mind.

There can be no doubt that TW is a really great concept. But now that we're 
joining them together (by TWederation) we are going to run into some 
seriously big road blocks if we're not careful. For example how do we 
handle the importing of Tiddlers with the same Title?
I feel that it is very disingenuous to force users to create shared 
Tiddlers with different names. At the moment we are doing this by adding 
the creators name to the end of the Tiddler's Title. This I feel is a big 
mistake. The naming of the Tiddlers should NOT be enforced like this. The 
creator should be free to name them however they want. But of course this 
throws a spanner in the works when names clash.

What we need is a unique way of identifying the Tiddler that is visible to 
TW, but not necessarily to the users. Pretty much every database system has 
a Key or a Unique ID and I think we need the same.
Now I know that Jeremy would say that your should be able to link to the 
Tiddler via the Title, and I fully agree. In any given TW the Title is 
unique (Shadows not withstanding). So that is the link you would use when 
linking to them in a given instance. But when a TW is federated, with the 
same name, which "New Tiddler" do you mean? Because they should all be 
available.

I propose that each TW should have a UID. It should be comprised of the 
hash of the URL of the TW, and the hash of the date/time when it was 
created. And that ID should stay with it for the life of it's existence. 
Even if it's federated into a new TW, then the ID stays. The only time it 
should gain a new ID is if it was copied, the copy getting a new UID.

Now when it comes to TWederation, the structure is clear. HASH1 is the 
parent. HASH2, HASH3 are children of the parent, HASH4 is the child of 
HASH3. Using this it is very clear how the individual tiddlers should be 
displayed, now matter what the actual content of them. If a Tiddler is a 
reply, then it has a parent. If no parent, it's a top level entry.
Tiddlers change. At present if a federated tiddler is changed, that change 
is not propagated (or have misunderstood the workings of TWederation? 
Mat?). If a parent tiddler is deleted, what becomes of the orphans? Yes, 
there is still much to discuss on this.


Now one of the other thoughts I had was in the concept of data Tiddlers. I 
know Mario wants to see all the data of any given Tiddler, but that's a 
different matter. :) You should be able to have data WITHOUT the concept of 
how it should be displayed, but use another Tiddler as the actual layout. 
We have the ViewTemplate tiddler, but if you break that down to a smaller 
level you can start to build up the Tiddlers to produce stronger concepts.
At present TW is geared around Text components. Title, Text and Tags as 
core values (yes I suppose created, modified and change count are other 
values too). TW Classic has the Data Plugin ( 
http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#DataTiddlerPlugin ) which kind of uses 
this concept. TW5 allows you to add further fields relatively easily. But 
what if you took it further?
By opening up TW to the concept of data you could really build up 
applications. For example a remote weather station server simply outputs a 
raw tiddler stream of weather data. You can TWederate that data straight in 
to get an idea of rainfall. Others could get the exact same data but be 
more concerned with wind speed and direction. Or both. Or temperature.
You would write a macro which would take all of the data and display it 
using the layout of another Tiddler. An iteration over that list would give 
us a simple table. Another version would format it for feeding into a chart 
(HighCharts anyone?) Or a data connector that changes it in some way to 
feed into other components (temperature delta over time? Temp vs Rain?)
This would give us an extremely powerful, dashboard like configuration.



As I said, these are just some random thoughts, typed up on a train journey 
back to London after the TWEU Meetup. They need refining in so many ways, 
but I feel that they may have some merits.

Discuss...



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[tw] Re: My TiddlyWiki Math Project

[Ste Wilson]

That's got it, thank you. 
Now my only problem is how to integrate this without making it ridiculously 
easy for my students 

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[tw] Re: My TiddlyWiki Math Project

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Stephen W,

Looking over Stephen's (K) code, it looks like you have to use a data 
tiddler in all lower case. All references to the data tiddler should also 
be in lower case. 

HTH
Mark

On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 12:57:18 PM UTC-7, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 03:22:51 UTC, Stephen Kimmel  wrote:
> > My TiddlyWiki math project, which I'm calling Mathcell, has progressed 
> far enough to actually be of some use to people. So I'm unleashing it on 
> the unsuspecting public in hopes of getting some feedback and comments.
> >  
>
> Hi Stephen, 
> Finally got around to trying something with your Mathcell.
> I think I have everything set up but it doesn't seem to evaluate any 
> formula. 
> I'm sure it's a school boy error on my part... 
>
> http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/#Math%20Force
>  is the tiddler I am using to present the data and as you can see it 
> returns values but doesn't do the calc. 
>
> http://stephenteacher.tiddlyspot.com/#Math%20Force%20Data
> Is the data tiddler. 
>
> Any insight much appreciated. 
>
> Stephen W
>
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.12

[Ed Dixon]

Congrats Jeremy and team! Awesome as always!

On Wednesday, July 13, 2016 at 6:04:57 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I'm delighted to announce that TiddlyWiki version 5.1.12 has finally been 
> released to:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:
>
> http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> This is a much bigger release than usual:
>
> * New text editor toolbars
> * New bitmap editor toolbars with usable drawing tools
> * Upgraded KaTeX and CodeMirror plugins
> * Experimental Evernote import by dragging .enex files
> * Added a bulk delete button to advanced search "Filter" tab
> * Introduction of the new WikifyWidget
> * New "internals" plugin that allows results of parsing and rendering to 
> be previewed
> * Many bug fixes
>
> See the release note at http://tiddlywiki.com/#Release%205.1.12 for more 
> details.
>
> Once again, this release has more contributors than ever before, including 
> quite a few first time contributors. My sincere thanks to everyone for 
> their help. 
>
> As usual, feedback and questions are gratefully received.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> -- 
> Jeremy Ruston
> mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] More twederation from the meetup

['Birthe C' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Jed,

Thank you. I was able to fetch the latest wall posts. It was fun finally to 
see how it works with more users.

Birthe


Den lørdag den 16. juli 2016 kl. 16.04.48 UTC+2 skrev Jed Carty:
>
> There have been some changes to the twederation plugins that break a lot 
> of what currently exists. There are updated plugins on 
> http://twederation.tiddlyspot.com, so if you have an existing wiki you 
> can use those plugins. The starting edition isn't updated so you shouldn't 
> use that yet. I should update that either late tonight when I get home or 
> tomorrow morning sometime. But until you do that update things are broken. 
> Also there are changes to twCards and posts that will break existing 
> things. The changes should be listed on a post on 
> twederation.tiddlyspot.com  so you can do the modifications manually if 
> you want.
>

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Plugins files not saved

[Sylvain Dangin]

I have tested few minutes your the actual github version and it's work. 
Thanks you for your work.
Just an information, they are multiple .tid extension on some files with 
this version.
$__StoryList.tid
$__StoryList.tid.tid
$__StoryList.tid.tid.tid
$__StoryList.tid.tid.tid.tid
$__StoryList.tid.tid.tid.tid.tid
$__StoryList.tid.tid.tid.tid.tid.tid

Best regards.

Le vendredi 15 juillet 2016 19:42:27 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston a écrit :
>
> Hi Sylvain
>
> You’ve actually uncovered two problems:
>
> * Misleading documentation and user experience around plugin installation 
> under the client-server configuration. With the Node.js configuration the 
> plugin library is actually integrated into the installation. Rather than 
> installing plugins using control panel, instead plugins are listed in the 
> tiddlywiki.info file of the wiki. See the examples in the TW repo to see 
> how it’s done
>
> * Secondly, a bug whereby text tiddlers that weren’t marked as wikitext 
> were saved as zero byte files under the client server configuration. I’ve 
> started a fix for 5.1.13 here, but I’m still testing:
>
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/commit/a4506231a70941041e421d24810339ba5bfb9b43
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> Hi, i'm new on TW5 (5.1.12) and i have a problem.
> If i install a plugin (like language), no problem, all works fine.
> But if i stop the server and restart it, all plugins doesn't works.
>
> I have looking for a solution and i have found that all plugins files are 
> empty in the tiddlers directory.
> Are they special rights to set to the folders ?
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[tw] [TW5] More twederation from the meetup

[Jed Carty]

There have been some changes to the twederation plugins that break a lot of 
what currently exists. There are updated plugins on 
http://twederation.tiddlyspot.com, so if you have an existing wiki you can 
use those plugins. The starting edition isn't updated so you shouldn't use 
that yet. I should update that either late tonight when I get home or 
tomorrow morning sometime. But until you do that update things are broken. 
Also there are changes to twCards and posts that will break existing 
things. The changes should be listed on a post on 
twederation.tiddlyspot.com  so you can do the modifications manually if you 
want.

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[tw] Re: [Concept] Aggregated stylesheets

[Zaphod Beeblebrox]

Thank You for the suggestion, Mark :)

Yes, I'm fairly familiar with the Developer's Console in both Firefox and 
Chrome, I'm just not very proficient at using it :-P

I was hoping someone had done a 'demonstration' type thing somewhere that I 
could readily access to see all the different parts that make up the 
interface.

I'll keep plugging away until I figure it out :)

--Zaphod


On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 2:10:25 PM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> You probably already know this, but if you are in Firefox (and Chrome, I 
> think) you can right click on a piece of text and choose "inspect element". 
> Then a little console will open up below allowing you to work out the 
> current classes of the selected object.
>
> There's a nice little image of styles in TW that someone has posted 
> somewhere. Wish I had kept the URL. Maybe someone will come forward?
>
> Mark
>
>
> On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 10:58:21 AM UTC-7, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
>>
>> So has anyone delved further into this idea?
>>
>> I agree that the 'modular' style of discrete tiddlers does naturally lead 
>> to the idea of aggregation of style elements.
>>
>> I would love to see such an implementation incorporated into the core of 
>> TW, whereby we would be able to style more individual parts of the wiki.
>>
>> This also leads me back to something I've been searching for (in vain): a 
>> (complete, exhaustive?) listing of all the parts that make up the 
>> interface; the tiddler, the SideBar, etc.  Maybe a presentation showing the 
>> elements with their CSS names (.tc-tiddler-*whatever*) with different 
>> color backgrounds for each element so they can be easily separated and 
>> identified.  This in itself would make the task of creating more varied 
>> designs and maybe even Themes that much easier.
>>
>> --Zaphod
>>
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki European Meetup 2016

[Jeremy Ruston]

Today's live stream is available at:

https://plus.google.com/events/cfk7k5473fv0i4jfj89j3koo038

If you'd like to join in and be part of the discussion:

https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe0FAWmaYqqLwZSgSi5cv0PnxvbSyhlFSA5JUPAvq_xFpr4Ug

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi Josiah
>
> Your voice is excellent. REALLY. You could do voiceovers for movies.
>
>
> Ahem, thank you!
>
> Unfortunately the sound overall is poor. As a filmmaker I can tell you you
> need a professional mike designed to attenuate itself to focal sound. Part
> of the problem looks like the room is too big for standard computer mikes
> to be able to attenuate speech from ambience. The best bet, lacking full
> technical support, may be to use any simple extension mike and get people
> to speak into it fairly closely.
>
>
> Yup, we don't have a decent microphone between us, but I plan to try using
> an ipad as a dedicated camera/microphone. We'll see how it goes.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
>
> On Friday, 15 July 2016 16:38:14 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mark
>>
>> Yes indeed, I'm afraid we're just using the laptop mikes, which are not
>> good! Will try to figure out something better
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
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>>
>>
>> On 15 Jul 2016, at 15:30, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
>> tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe, a better room mike? Can be hard to pick out voices.
>>
>> - ook
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 4:44:00 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>>
>>> The live stream is up and running:
>>>
>>> http://tiddlywiki.com/tiddlywiki-eu-meetup-2016/#LiveStream
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Sylvain Naudin 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello !

 I'm affraid, I will not be with you :(
 Hope I can follow you online !

 Cheers,
 Sylvain

>>>
>>>
>>>
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[tw] Re: [TW5] Open all the tiddlers with a particular tag

[Matabele]

Hi


The $action-listops widget (now included in the core) may be used for this 
functionality, using the $filter= attribute option:


\define getTiddlers()
<$button class="btn-invisible">$(tag)$
<$action-listops $tiddler="$:/StoryList" $field="list" $filter=
"[tag[$(tag)$]]"/>

\end

Note: This doesn't update the history

regards

On Friday, 20 June 2014 09:26:03 UTC+2, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I'd find it really useful to be able to simultaneously open all the 
> tiddlers with a particular tag and then close them all again.
>
> Is that already possible?
>
> Thanks
> Jon
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Re: [tw] Re: TiddlyWiki European Meetup 2016

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Josiah

> Your voice is excellent. REALLY. You could do voiceovers for movies.

Ahem, thank you!

> Unfortunately the sound overall is poor. As a filmmaker I can tell you you 
> need a professional mike designed to attenuate itself to focal sound. Part of 
> the problem looks like the room is too big for standard computer mikes to be 
> able to attenuate speech from ambience. The best bet, lacking full technical 
> support, may be to use any simple extension mike and get people to speak into 
> it fairly closely.

Yup, we don't have a decent microphone between us, but I plan to try using an 
ipad as a dedicated camera/microphone. We'll see how it goes.

Best wishes

Jeremy

> 
> Best wishes
> Josiah
> 
> 
>> On Friday, 15 July 2016 16:38:14 UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>> Hi Mark
>> 
>> Yes indeed, I'm afraid we're just using the laptop mikes, which are not 
>> good! Will try to figure out something better
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> 
>> 
>>> On 15 Jul 2016, at 15:30, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe, a better room mike? Can be hard to pick out voices.
>>> 
>>> - ook
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> 
 On Friday, July 15, 2016 at 4:44:00 AM UTC-7, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
 The live stream is up and running:
 
 http://tiddlywiki.com/tiddlywiki-eu-meetup-2016/#LiveStream
 
 Best wishes
 
 Jeremy.
 
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Sylvain Naudin  wrote:
> Hello !
> 
> I'm affraid, I will not be with you :(
> Hope I can follow you online !
> 
> Cheers,
> Sylvain
 
 
 
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