Re: [tw] Re: How do I count and get numbers for the instances that call a macro within a Tiddler/Within the storyriver.

[Jan]

Hi Tobi,
Sorry for the latency, I needed to read your explications about the 
architecture several times, and yet I do not fully understand everything.


Some thoughts though:
I would  rather like footnotes to be macros than tiddlers. On the one 
hand something tells me that it is smaller and reduces the number of 
total tiddlers. On the other hand I would like a footnote to disappear 
when its anchor is deleted, and not to be accidentally deleted when 
cleaning up. I wonder whether a unique id could change something about this.
The question I have is how could one search for the content of a macro 
in wikitext when the searching macro would have to use the same strings 
as the pattern we look for.

Like <>

Yours  Jan

Am 31.08.2016 um 07:34 schrieb Tobias Beer:

Hi Jan

To parseTreeNodes sounds a little chinese for me...but I think I
understand.


Yes, it takes some getting used to terminology. Think of it like that: 
You have wikitext and that is parsed by the TiddlyWiki core into a 
parseTree and then a widget tree subsequently constructed from that, 
which in turn eventually generates DOM elements for the browser to 
display, but not necessarily.


Since TiddlyWiki does away with the focus on manipulating DOM elements 
directly, operating on a widgets architecture, there is a bit of a 
gap. With TiddlyWiki classic it was easy to do DOM traversal and 
manipulation with jQuery and so we could do all kinds of fancy stuff 
after the fact, meaning, after TiddlyWiki did its default thing with 
the wikitext.


However, with the new architecture, we're a bit lacking on a general 
interface for developers to traverse the widget-tree-representation of 
your wiki text, e.g. so as to say "find that list and give me its list 
elements". Such a traversal may not even be desirable owed to the 
transient, stateless nature of widgets... which doesn't mean that they 
do not actually have a state, but that they can be trashed and 
recreated at any given moment... so if you have some other output that 
would depend on the current widget representation, there's a chance it 
would not notice that the thing it references and relies on to do 
further stuff actually changed from the first time it was created, 
e.g. that footnote index.


So, with TiddlyWiki classic there were HTML / DOM elements like ULs 
and LIs (which we still have, of course) for which we could use simple 
jQuery selectors to address them. However, now we would need some 
simplistic equivalent to address the underlying list widget, so as to 
be able to then do magick with a possibly much safer and much more 
powerful encapsulation in the form of a widget, that provides well 
defined interfaces for actually handling it, e.g. when to refresh or 
recompute the state of that widget, etc...


If it is what Ithink it would put us all a big deal forward and
could be the basis for many things I try to build.
- a filter  collecting Footnotes
- a way of transcluding/navigating to parts of Tiddlers
... and thus new possibilities to present information stored in
TWs for example in Slideshows et cetera


So, that's the thing: you would need to be able to tell the TiddlyWiki 
core:


  * that right there is my "tiddler" in the widget tree
  * and in that thing being the "tiddler" rendered from that wikitext,
go find elements matching this or that pattern, e.g. all list
widget where some attribute is such and such
  * eventually return the corresponding widgets so that I can do fancy
stuff based on what I'm given, e.g. with the list items
...presuming I know all about list widgets and how to get from the
list itself to the items

However, one core paradigm is that widgets are transient things by 
nature, especially their representation in the DOM. So, in general the 
philosophy would be to always work try and with the underlying 
wikitext first. And if that proves difficult, chances are you simply 
haven't sliced and diced your wikitext just enough for you to be able 
to address every single chunk of concern separately.



To conclude with a much more practical example, let me put it this way:
if you turned your footnotes into actual tiddlers, e.g. as

$:/fn/the related tiddler/foo
$:/fn/the related tiddler/bar

and then retrieved it as:

<>

in the context of *the related tiddler*, then you could do all kinds 
of magick with those footnotes ...and all that would be missing is 
some simplistic plugin that, instead of using some markup in the 
tiddler, would go create those "under-the-hood"-related system 
tiddlers being the footnotes... which it would be most trivial to 
later on list with whatever eye-candy you fancy most.


Based on a given list of chapter tiddlers being rendered each with 
their individual, related footnotes tiddlers you could as well easily 
generate one big list of footnotes. All you need is for your footnotes 
to be actual tiddlers. Hence system tiddlers since you may not 
actually want them to 

[tw] How to generate titles for childern of Tiddlers seting the title and a number based on the count widget.

[Jan]

Hi
I tried the following construction to achieve this:

\define titelsetzen() [[$(titel)$]]
\define StundenTitel() $(titel)$ - $(counter)$
\define neueStunde()
<$set name="counter" value=<>
<$vars tagthema={{!!thema}} titel={{!!title}}>
<$button>
<$action-setfield counter=<>/>
<$action-sendmessage
  $message="tm-new-tiddler"
  text={{$:/MetaTabs/MusterStunde}}
  thema={{!!thema}} seminar={{!!seminar}}
  title=<>
  source=<>
  tags="Stunde"/>
neu



\end

<>

Unfortunately the title I get is just " - "
Does anyone see the mistake?

Thanks Jan

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Have a Macro Insert the Value of a Tiddler as a Tag

[Taylor Jensen]

Hmm, this is technically a solution. Unfortunately it costs time and 
convenience. Two things we can't afford in the theater. I don't know when 
or where I may have to take a new note, so I'd have to find that tiddler 
and then start clicking. But it's not the worst idea. Sometimes no-tech 
solutions are the best, but I think the constraints I have to deal with 
unfortunately make this note one of those times. Thanks tho!

-TCJ

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 11:57:11 AM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi TCJ
>
> If possible, you could change your workflow a little bit. eg:
>
>  - create a tiddler named: CurrentShow and tag it: Romeo and Juliet
>  - save and don't close it. 
>  - Use the: New Here button from the tiddler CurrentShow  (view) toolbar
>
> IMO that produces the exact outcome, with a little change from your side. 
> No TW modifications needed.
>
> You can activate the new here button with the *ControlPanel: Appearence: 
> Toolbars: View Toolbar*   settings
>
> -m
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Have a Macro Insert the Value of a Tiddler as a Tag

[Taylor Jensen]

Unfortunately those instructions seem to only detail basic templating. The 
way I need my tiddlers created from a template to be tagged appear to be 
beyond the scope of that tutorial.

The problem is not changing a template, or the new journal button to do 
what I want, but making it so I can turn a transclusion or substitution 
into a tag for new tiddlers using that template.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 6:42:09 AM UTC+1, Tobias Beer wrote:
>
> Hi Taylor,
>
> See if you can follow these instructions
> to build a custom "my new journal" button,
> because that's apparently what you need:
>
> Create Tiddler From Template @ tb5 
> 
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Tobias. 
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] TOC External Navigation Style for a List

[Taylor Jensen]

It's pretty simple tbh. It's just something like [tag{Tiddler}Tag[tag]]. 
It's allowing me to see all of the tiddlers with a preset tag, and then in 
a group that gets changed by the contents of [[Tiddler]].

The problem with easily adapting the core TOC code is that each one 
references the more basic ones before it. So I think I would need to modify 
all of them? Or maybe I can just copy the TOC code into prefixed macros, 
and then add tag[tag] to the most basic one's filter.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 12:20:44 PM UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 12:41:24 AM UTC+2, Taylor Jensen wrote:
>>
>> ... But I need that style of thing for a normal list (because I need more 
>> filter options than TOCs are designed for)...
>>
>  
> What does your filter look like?
> IMO the macro could be easily extended (into a new one) that usees a 
> "filter" input variable.
>
> -mario
>
>

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[tw] Re: TW5: Can I put code blocks inside tables?

[Tobias Beer]

There's always good old html:



example


```
runCode(foo);
alert("bar");
```




Best wishes,

Tobias.

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.13

[BJ]

looks like a bug in strEndsWith, it should I think be:-

exports.strEndsWith = function(str,ending,position) {
if(str.endsWith) {
return str.endsWith(ending,position);
} else {
if (typeof position !== 'number' || !isFinite(position) || 
Math.floor(position) !== position || position > str.length) {
position = str.length;
}
   * position -= ending.length**;*
var lastIndex = str.indexOf(ending, position);
return lastIndex !== -1 && lastIndex === position;
}
};


all the best BJ

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 3:45:04 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Xavier
>
> Good to hear that things are working. Let's see if anyone else encounters 
> the problem,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
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> http://jermolene.com
>
> On 25 Jul 2016, at 15:41, Xavier Cazin  
> wrote:
>
> Jeremy,
>
> Bingo. Not sure whether it was a Linux or a NodeJS bug, but after I 
> installed the 4.4.7 binaries found on the nodejs site 
> https://nodejs.org/en/download/, it worked again as expected! Don't know 
> what to do of this, but users of popular Ubuntu and Debian installations 
> will probably see the bug if they use the default packages.
>
> Best,
>
> -- Xavier Cazin
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Xavier Cazin  > wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeremy,
>>
>> I may have found something related to Linux vs MacOS nodejs versions: 
>> https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/685. I'm did my tests 
>> on Debian Jessie, which is I believe the stable Debian, that ships with 
>> v0.10.29 of nodejs :-(
>>
>> X.
>>
>> -- Xavier Cazin
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jeremy Ruston > > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Xavier
>>>
>>> That’s very strange. I’m not seeing the repeated file extension on my 
>>> Mac. I’m wondering if it is somehow an OS difference? Can anyone else 
>>> confirm the problem?
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> On 25 Jul 2016, at 13:50, Xavier Cazin  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Jeremy,
>>>
>>> I believe the extraneous .tid extension still appears in server mode (at 
>>> least in the npm version):
>>>
>>> xavier@hautbois:~$ mkdir /tmp/my-test && cd /tmp/my-test
>>> xavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$ which tiddlywiki
>>> /usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki
>>> xavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$ 
>>> xavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$ tiddlywiki --version
>>> 5.1.13
>>> xavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$ tiddlywiki . --init server
>>> Copied edition 'server' to .
>>> xavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$ tiddlywiki . --server 4242
>>> Serving on 127.0.0.1:4242
>>> (press ctrl-C to exit)
>>> syncer-server: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
>>> FileSystem: Saved file /tmp/my-test/tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid.tid
>>> ^Cxavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$ 
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> -- Xavier Cazin
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Jeremy Ruston >> > wrote:
>>>
 I'm delighted to announce that TiddlyWiki version 5.1.13 has been 
 released to:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/

 Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis 
 at:

 http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html

 This is a minor bug fix release that mostly deals with issues 
 introduced in 5.1.12:

 * Fixed (and refixed) problematic stricter external link matching rules 
 introduced in 5.1.12
 * Fixed problem with tiddlers titled "undefined"
 * Fixed rendering problem with KaTeX Plugin
 * Removed unneeded border in print stylesheet
 * Fixed problem with extraneous .tid extension added to tiddler 
 filenames
 * Updated Portuguese (Portugal) translation

 See the release note at http://tiddlywiki.com/#Release%205.1.13 for 
 more details.

 As usual, feedback and questions are gratefully received.

 Best wishes

 -- 
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 mailto:jeremy...@gmail.com 

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[tw] Can I put code blocks inside tables?

[Jeff Vance]

 I like to keep lots of notes of syntax on various programming languages or 
command line tricks.  In other note tools, I often would create a table 
that lists the commands in one column and a description in another.  I 
can't find any way to do this in TW5 with so many `|<> characters.  I can't 
escape those characters inside inline code block (with ` code `), so I 
figured I'd use full code blocks...but I would really like each block to be 
within 1 column of a table.  I can't seem to make it work.  Is it possible?


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[tw] Re: Show a list of all tags without "companion" tiddler

[NT]

Am Mittwoch, 31. August 2016 13:46:53 UTC+2 schrieb PMario:
>
>
> you can use: 
> <> .. to show all used tags. *Those, that 
> are shown in italic don't have a corresponding tiddler. *
>
> <>  to list all tiddlers, that are 
> untagged.
>
> You may also have a look at the *right sidebar: More: Tags* tab. and the 
> TagManager which links from there.
>
> see: 
> http://tiddlywiki.com/#untagged%20Operator:%5B%5Buntagged%20Operator%5D%5D%20%5B%5Buntagged%20Operator%20(Examples)%5D%5D%20%5B%5Btags%20Operator%20(Examples)%5D%5D%20%5B%5Btags%20Operator%5D%5D
>  
>

Mario, thanks for showing up possibilities. I know the right sidebar and 
the tag manager, but I find them not really helpful for my problem. The 
list of all tags is not really handy for me as well, since I have a lot of 
tags - around 500. Also the italic markup is a bit hard to recolgnize in 
between. I really would appreciate a list ONLY with the tags without 
tag-tiddler since I have to repeat this process of review from time to time 
and don't want to scroll through a growing number of tags again and again. 
Is it possible to put just another filter that shows just the italic tags 
or something similar? How would that look like? Thanks for help, everyone!


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[tw] Re: Newly created tiddlyspot wiki gives max stack size exceeded error on save

[Mat]

You can simply download tiddlywiki.com. There's even a direct button to do 
that, in GettingStarted on tiddlywiki.com.

You might also want to check out 

https://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Welcome
http://inmysocks.tiddlyspot.com/#Other%20Places%20to%20Look + the inmysocks 
site itself

<:-)

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Re: [tw] [TW5] Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.13

[Erwan]

Hi Jerermy and Xavier,

I confirm the bug with my old Ubuntu 14.04:

moreaue@moreaue:/tmp> tiddlywiki --version
5.1.13
moreaue@moreaue:/tmp> tiddlywiki test --init server
Copied edition 'server' to test
moreaue@moreaue:/tmp> tiddlywiki test --server 4242
Serving on 127.0.0.1:4242
(press ctrl-C to exit)
syncer-server: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
FileSystem: Saved file /tmp/test/tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid.tid

moreaue@moreaue:/tmp> npm --version
1.4.28

I followed Xavier's advice to install the binaries and it looks like 
it's fixed now. Btw if anyone needs to do this and is a bit clueless 
like me about how to do it, here are instructions: 
http://www.hostingadvice.com/how-to/install-nodejs-ubuntu-14-04/#standard-binary-packages.


All the best,

Erwan


On 25/07/16 15:44, Jeremy Ruston wrote:

Hi Xavier

Good to hear that things are working. Let's see if anyone else 
encounters the problem,


Best wishes

Jeremy

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On 25 Jul 2016, at 15:41, Xavier Cazin > wrote:



Jeremy,

Bingo. Not sure whether it was a Linux or a NodeJS bug, but after I 
installed the 4.4.7 binaries found on the nodejs site 
https://nodejs.org/en/download/, it worked again as expected! Don't 
know what to do of this, but users of popular Ubuntu and Debian 
installations will probably see the bug if they use the default packages.


Best,

-- Xavier Cazin

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 4:03 PM, Xavier Cazin > wrote:


Hi Jeremy,

I may have found something related to Linux vs MacOS nodejs
versions: https://github.com/nodejs/node-v0.x-archive/issues/685.
I'm did my tests on Debian Jessie, which is I believe the stable
Debian, that ships with v0.10.29 of nodejs :-(

X.

-- Xavier Cazin

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Jeremy Ruston
> wrote:

Hi Xavier

That’s very strange. I’m not seeing the repeated file
extension on my Mac. I’m wondering if it is somehow an OS
difference? Can anyone else confirm the problem?

Best wishes

Jeremy


On 25 Jul 2016, at 13:50, Xavier Cazin > wrote:

Hello Jeremy,

I believe the extraneous .tid extension still appears in
server mode (at least in the npm version):

xavier@hautbois:~$ mkdir /tmp/my-test && cd /tmp/my-test
xavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$ which tiddlywiki
/usr/local/bin/tiddlywiki
xavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$
xavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$ tiddlywiki --version
5.1.13
xavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$ tiddlywiki . --init server
Copied edition 'server' to .
xavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$ tiddlywiki . --server 4242
Serving on 127.0.0.1:4242 
(press ctrl-C to exit)
syncer-server: Dispatching 'save' task: $:/StoryList
FileSystem: Saved file
/tmp/my-test/tiddlers/$__StoryList.tid.tid
^Cxavier@hautbois:/tmp/my-test$

Regards,
-- Xavier Cazin

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Jeremy Ruston
>
wrote:

I'm delighted to announce that TiddlyWiki version 5.1.13
has been released to:

http://tiddlywiki.com/

Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading
existing 5.x.x wikis at:

http://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html

This is a minor bug fix release that mostly deals with
issues introduced in 5.1.12:

* Fixed (and refixed) problematic stricter external link
matching rules introduced in 5.1.12
* Fixed problem with tiddlers titled "undefined"
* Fixed rendering problem with KaTeX Plugin
* Removed unneeded border in print stylesheet
* Fixed problem with extraneous .tid extension added to
tiddler filenames
* Updated Portuguese (Portugal) translation

See the release note at
http://tiddlywiki.com/#Release%205.1.13 for more details.

As usual, feedback and questions are gratefully received.

Best wishes

-- 
Jeremy Ruston

mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com


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[tw] Re: Newly created tiddlyspot wiki gives max stack size exceeded error on save

[ChrisN]

Okay, thank you (and to Birthe C), I'm now on TW5 and I seem to have sorted 
out saving to tiddlyspot.com.

Now I'm looking for up-to-date (!) tutorials. Is there a TiddlyWiki I can 
download (for offline browsing while travelling) that contains the 
information found in *tiddlywiki.com*?.  I've found *TW Tribal Knowledge*, 
which looks good, but I need something more basic to begin with.  Thanks.


Il giorno mercoledì 31 agosto 2016 14:06:54 UTC+1, Mat ha scritto:
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 12:34:17 PM UTC+2, ChrisN wrote:
>>
>> Returning to TW after several years' absence, I created a wiki on 
>> tiddlyspot.com (flavour: *Standard*).  I edited a couple of tiddlers as 
>> per the *Getting Started* advice then clicked *save to web*.  Although I 
>> see the message "About to upload on http://.
>> tiddlyspot.com/index.html ...Main TiddlyWiki file uploaded" lower down 
>> there's also an ominous red "Error while executing macro <>" and 
>> the explanation "*Error while executing macro <>*
>> *RangeError  Maximum call stack size exceeded".* Retrieving the wiki 
>> using a different browser shows it hasn't been saved.
>>
>> I've tried this on Chrome, FF, Opera.  Likely I've missed something 
>> obvious, but I don't know where to go from here.  Thanks.
>>
>> Hi ChrisN, 
>
> a lot has changed (improved) over the past years. TW5 is superior to what 
> is now knowns as TWClassic or TW2. Unless you need the data you put into 
> your  TW (that was just newly created, right?) then I suggest you instead 
> use TW5 upload this to your tiddlyspot (i.e same url). If you need help 
> with this, ask here.
>
> Another option is to go into the backups section of your tiddlyspot and 
> open a previously saved version. I.e the tiddlyspot url but adding the 
> suffix /backup/
>
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Beginner questions

[Sven]

Hi Mat,
Thanks for taking some time to answer.
 

> Do not rely on tiddlyspace. It is about to be closed down (owner 
> BrittishTelecom) and the wikis and info in it is typically not about TW5 
> but the older TW2/TWclassic.
>  
> I suggest you search a bit in the archives for how to make this. I'm 
> pretty sure there's info there and I am myself not sure of the best way to 
> go about it.
>

Thanks, will do. Maybe somebody else has a good idea. Anyway, I will keep 
on searching. So far it was pretty hard to find good documentation but 
maybe this will improve...
 

> Where is your TW hosted? Browser restrictons affect this. Also, what is it 
> you expect to happen when you click the link?
>
> Depending on answer, there was something called twexe released a while ago 
> that you might find useful.
>

It is on local host (http://127.0.0.1:8080/)
Expected behaviour is what happens if I paste the file URL directly into 
the browser... (it asks me how to open the file) 

I think it was either Eric (whose username i believe is elsdesign) or Mario 
(pmario) that has a neat solution for this.

Ok, sorry if these were kind of indirect answers but I hope they are a step 
> in the right direction.
>

Thanks. Any sort of help is appreciated.
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[tw] Re: Newly created tiddlyspot wiki gives max stack size exceeded error on save

['Birthe C' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi ChrisN,

I just tested and it worked for me in firefox. Standard flavour gives you 
tiddlywiki classic version 2.65. You might want a later version if you 
prefer tiddlywiki classic http://classic.tiddlywiki.com/


Birthe

Den onsdag den 31. august 2016 kl. 15.06.54 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
>
> On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 12:34:17 PM UTC+2, ChrisN wrote:
>>
>> Returning to TW after several years' absence, I created a wiki on 
>> tiddlyspot.com (flavour: *Standard*).  I edited a couple of tiddlers as 
>> per the *Getting Started* advice then clicked *save to web*.  Although I 
>> see the message "About to upload on http://.
>> tiddlyspot.com/index.html ...Main TiddlyWiki file uploaded" lower down 
>> there's also an ominous red "Error while executing macro <>" and 
>> the explanation "*Error while executing macro <>*
>> *RangeError  Maximum call stack size exceeded".* Retrieving the wiki 
>> using a different browser shows it hasn't been saved.
>>
>> I've tried this on Chrome, FF, Opera.  Likely I've missed something 
>> obvious, but I don't know where to go from here.  Thanks.
>>
>> Hi ChrisN, 
>
> a lot has changed (improved) over the past years. TW5 is superior to what 
> is now knowns as TWClassic or TW2. Unless you need the data you put into 
> your  TW (that was just newly created, right?) then I suggest you instead 
> use TW5 upload this to your tiddlyspot (i.e same url). If you need help 
> with this, ask here.
>
> Another option is to go into the backups section of your tiddlyspot and 
> open a previously saved version. I.e the tiddlyspot url but adding the 
> suffix /backup/
>
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Beginner questions

[Mat]

Hi Sven and welcome to TW5!

Valid questions.


> *1) New Journal template.*When I click "new journal here" on a tiddly I 
> would like that a custom template is used.
> I found that there is a newJournal macro ( 
> http://tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com/newJournal 
> 
>  
> ) which seems to be the right thing to use but I did not find the place 
> where to put it...
> Does anybody know?
>

Do not rely on tiddlyspace. It is about to be closed down (owner 
BrittishTelecom) and the wikis and info in it is typically not about TW5 
but the older TW2/TWclassic.
 
I suggest you search a bit in the archives for how to make this. I'm pretty 
sure there's info there and I am myself not sure of the best way to go 
about it.


Then as a follow up question: In the template to be used I would like to 
> define a field which every Journal entry has to fill (a mandatory field so 
> to say). How is this possible?
>
>
> *2) Links to external docs*I've been trying to add links to external 
> documents.
>

Where is your TW hosted? Browser restrictons affect this. Also, what is it 
you expect to happen when you click the link?

Depending on answer, there was something called twexe released a while ago 
that you might find useful.

 

> Also, I would prefer to give a relative link like 
> [ext[Link|./tiddly/docs/Doc1.docx]] rather than the absolute one, but this 
> also does not work...
>

I think it was either Eric (whose username i believe is elsdesign) or Mario 
(pmario) that has a neat solution for this.


Ok, sorry if these were kind of indirect answers but I hope they are a step 
in the right direction.

<:-)

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[tw] Re: Newly created tiddlyspot wiki gives max stack size exceeded error on save

[Mat]

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 12:34:17 PM UTC+2, ChrisN wrote:
>
> Returning to TW after several years' absence, I created a wiki on 
> tiddlyspot.com (flavour: *Standard*).  I edited a couple of tiddlers as 
> per the *Getting Started* advice then clicked *save to web*.  Although I 
> see the message "About to upload on http://.
> tiddlyspot.com/index.html ...Main TiddlyWiki file uploaded" lower down 
> there's also an ominous red "Error while executing macro <>" and 
> the explanation "*Error while executing macro <>*
> *RangeError  Maximum call stack size exceeded".* Retrieving the wiki 
> using a different browser shows it hasn't been saved.
>
> I've tried this on Chrome, FF, Opera.  Likely I've missed something 
> obvious, but I don't know where to go from here.  Thanks.
>
> Hi ChrisN, 

a lot has changed (improved) over the past years. TW5 is superior to what 
is now knows ans TWClassic or TW2. Unless you need the data you put into 
your  TW (that was just newly created, right?) then I suggest you instead 
use TW5 upload this to your tiddlyspot (i.e same url). If you need help 
with this, ask here.

Another option is to go into the backups section of your tiddlyspot and 
open a previously saved version. I.e the tiddlyspot url but adding the 
suffix /backup/


<:-)

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[tw] Re: Deactivate fold animation for view templates

[Danielo Rodríguez]

> The problem here is, that it is used for all animations. 

Exactly. It's all or nothing. There are some animations that are desirable, one 
some that don't. Also some animations look fine at certain speed while other 
look awful. Finally what should be animated or not it's a matter of liking and 
should be more granular 

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[tw] Re: Show a list of all tags without "companion" tiddler

[Eucaly J]

maybe 
[tags[]is[missing]]
or
[tags[]is[missing]!is[system]]

PMario ...：

> you can use: 
> <> .. to show all used tags. *Those, that 
> are shown in italic don't have a corresponding tiddler. *
>
> <>  to list all tiddlers, that are 
> untagged.
>

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[tw] Re: Show a list of all tags without "companion" tiddler

[PMario]

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 1:04:38 PM UTC+2, NT wrote:
>
> As a prerequisite I want the notion to be clarified. 
>
 

> Not every tag has a tiddler with the identical name, automatically - you 
> have to create it. 
>

right
 

> Since also not for every tiddler there is a tag with the same name, a 
> tiddler with a name of a tag must be some kind of a special tiddler - is it?
>

Not really. Since every tiddler can be a tag for others. There's nothing 
special with tags. ... but ... there are some UI enhancements using the 
generic <$list> widget with "filter-operators" designed for tagging. 
 

> So what is the offical naming of these kind of tiddlers? Companion tiddler?
>

It's just a tiddler, that happens to be a tag for other tiddlers. you could 
name it a "tag-tiddler".
 

> Let's come to the initial purpose of this post. In my wiki I try to make a 
> companion tiddler for every "normal" tag - just to be able to structure / 
> cluster / aggregate the tags by tagging them again with some "higher meta 
> tags". And because you can't tag other tags directly, you have to create a 
> companion tiddler first and then tag this one. This is the solution that 
> came to my mind - if you have other / better suggestions to strructure your 
> tags just tell me, please.
>

We use this structure for the table-of-content macros 
. That's how it is 
designed. You use it in the proper way. 
 

> So from time to time I forget to create a companion tiddler for a tag. 
> Then it is kind of hard work to find the tags without companion tiddler, 
> manually.
>

you can use: 
<> .. to show all used tags. Those, that are 
shown in italic don't have a corresponding tiddler. 

<>  to list all tiddlers, that are 
untagged.

You may also have a look at the *right sidebar: More: Tags* tab. and the 
TagManager which links from there.

see: 
http://tiddlywiki.com/#untagged%20Operator:%5B%5Buntagged%20Operator%5D%5D%20%5B%5Buntagged%20Operator%20(Examples)%5D%5D%20%5B%5Btags%20Operator%20(Examples)%5D%5D%20%5B%5Btags%20Operator%5D%5D
 
hope that helps

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Re: [TW5] TOC External Navigation Style for a List

[PMario]

On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 at 12:41:24 AM UTC+2, Taylor Jensen wrote:
>
> ... But I need that style of thing for a normal list (because I need more 
> filter options than TOCs are designed for)...
>
 
What does your filter look like?
IMO the macro could be easily extended (into a new one) that usees a 
"filter" input variable.

-mario

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[tw] Re: Deactivate fold animation for view templates

[PMario]

Hi Danielo,

You could set the "Animation duration" to 0 or a lower value than 400, 
which is the default

see: ControlPanel: Info: Animation Duration: 400

The problem here is, that it is used for all animations. 

-m


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[tw] Show a list of all tags without "companion" tiddler

[NT]

As a prerequisite I want the notion to be clarified. Not every tag has a 
tiddler with the identical name, automatically - you have to create it. 
Since also not for every tiddler there is a tag with the same name, a 
tiddler with a name of a tag must be some kind of a special tiddler - is 
it? So what is the offical naming of these kind of tiddlers? Companion 
tiddler?

Let's come to the initial purpose of this post. In my wiki I try to make a 
companion tiddler for every "normal" tag - just to be able to structure / 
cluster / aggregate the tags by tagging them again with some "higher meta 
tags". And because you can't tag other tags directly, you have to create a 
companion tiddler first and then tag this one. This is the solution that 
came to my mind - if you have other / better suggestions to strructure your 
tags just tell me, please.

So from time to time I forget to create a companion tiddler for a tag. Then 
it is kind of hard work to find the tags without companion tiddler, 
manually.

So here I am asking for a suggestion / example for some code / a macro to 
get a list of those tags. Would be awesome if this would be a list of tag 
pills, then you could click on them to open / create the companion tiddler. 
But the essential part it the filtering. 

Any hints? Thanks for reading.

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[tw] Re: How do I modify the wikitex syntax for definitions (semicolon) ?

[PMario]

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 6:43:41 PM UTC+2, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Create a tiddler tagged with $:/tags/Stylesheet which contains:
>
> dl dt { font-weight: normal; }
>
>
It may not be obvious. .. Please do _not_ change the core stylesheet. It 
may cause problems in the future.

*Ceate a new tiddler* eg: myStyles and *tag it*: $:/tags/Stylesheet

Ton's info is correct, but could be interpreted as changing the core 
settings.

-m

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Have a Macro Insert the Value of a Tiddler as a Tag

[PMario]

Hi TCJ

If possible, you could change your workflow a little bit. eg:

 - create a tiddler named: CurrentShow and tag it: Romeo and Juliet
 - save and don't close it. 
 - Use the: New Here button from the tiddler (view) toolbar

IMO that produces the exact outcome, with a little change from your side. 
No TW modifications needed.

You can activate the new here button with the *ControlPanel: Appearence: 
Toolbars: View Toolbar*   settings

-m

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[tw] Newly created tiddlyspot wiki gives max stack size exceeded error on save

[ChrisN]

Returning to TW after several years' absence, I created a wiki on 
tiddlyspot.com (flavour: *Standard*).  I edited a couple of tiddlers as per 
the *Getting Started* advice then clicked *save to web*.  Although I see 
the message "About to upload on http://.tiddlyspot.com/index.html 
...Main TiddlyWiki file uploaded" lower down there's also an ominous red "Error 
while executing macro <>" and the explanation "*Error while executing 
macro <>*
*RangeError  Maximum call stack size exceeded".* Retrieving the wiki using 
a different browser shows it hasn't been saved.

I've tried this on Chrome, FF, Opera.  Likely I've missed something 
obvious, but I don't know where to go from here.  Thanks.

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Re: [tw] Re: Latency of editing-fields

['Birthe C' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Jan,

In your $:/MetaTabs/newReference Lang, I think you need to clear float.


Birthe

Den tirsdag den 30. august 2016 kl. 23.04.32 UTC+2 skrev Jan:
>
> Well, correction...I feel even more stupid now.
> Even implanting editor and style of your 
> http://test21.tiddlyspot.com/#editor to my Wiki gives me editingfields 
> About 20em high...not just 2 as desired.
>
> Thou shallst not curse...
> Ja 
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Hide parts of a tiddler without using a tag or global css styles

[PMario]

On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 at 11:01:48 AM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Yes. I think *it might* be a possibility fix issue 958 
>  and even improve 
> the possibilities. 
>
> What do you mean by fixing #958? 
>

closing, if we reach an agreeable proposal.
 

> That ticket merely points out that tag names have to be encoded for use in 
> a stylesheet. 
> We don’t have a plausible proposal for how to avoid the need for escaping, 
> so I’m not sure what a fix would look like.
>

That's exactly the point. Due to the CSS spec, class names have to be 
escaped. So I think, there is no solution, other than create weird looking 
classes. The problem with those classes are, that they are extremely 
inconvenient for newbie users. IMO it's impossible for humans to create 
valid CSS stylesheets by hand. Except for simple tag names. . 

Having a look to this group, it seems there aren't many problems with this 
functionality. .. Either because 
 - the feature it's rarely used
 - tag names are simple by default
 - Users just use simpler tag names, if complicated ones don't work

As I wrote several times, we need more testing with the new [attr] 
selector. I'm not sure yet, how it handles quotes. ..

I'm ok with a `data-tiddler-title` html attribute, but need to look at the 
specs, what characters it allows for the values section.

-m


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[tw] Beginner questions

[Sven]

Hello,
I just started using TW 5 and I've got some questions for which I was not 
able to find an answer:
I'm using TW version *5.1.11* on Windows.


*1) New Journal template.*When I click "new journal here" on a tiddly I 
would like that a custom template is used.
I found that there is a newJournal macro ( 
http://tiddlywiki.tiddlyspace.com/newJournal ) which seems to be the right 
thing to use but I did not find the place where to put it...
Does anybody know?

Then as a follow up question: In the template to be used I would like to 
define a field which every Journal entry has to fill (a mandatory field so 
to say). How is this possible?


*2) Links to external docs*I've been trying to add links to external 
documents.
The dir structure is:
C:\Users\user name\tiddly\tiddlers <= here are all the *.tid files
C:\Users\user name\tiddly\docs <= here I would like to have all external 
files, e.g. I have a file C:\Users\user name\tiddly\docs\Doc1.docx
C:\Users\user name\tiddly\tiddlywiki.info

How can I now link to this Doc1.docx file from a tiddler.
I've tried:
[ext[Link|file:///C:/Users/user name/galileo/docs/Doc1.docx]]
which renders to a link to file:///C:/Users/user name/tiddly/docs/Doc1.docx
However, clicking on this link nothing happens (both IE and Firefox). If I 
paste file:///C:/Users/user name/tiddly/docs/Doc1.docx directly into the 
browser I'm asked how I would like to open the file which is fine.

What is wrong with [ext[Link|file:///C:/Users/user 
name/galileo/docs/Doc1.docx]] ?

Also, I would prefer to give a relative link like 
[ext[Link|./tiddly/docs/Doc1.docx]] rather than the absolute one, but this 
also does not work...

I had a similar problem when referring to images. These I could work around 
by importing the pictures first, but I do not want to do this for every 
external document.

Thanks for your help.

Regards
--sven

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[tw] Re: Action on tab opening

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello Mat, 

thank you for your example. 
I ended with something similar for another implementation. 

My requirement for what I originally asked here does not allow me to change or 
override any core macro, so I can't implement my own tabs. 

I still thinking we need a widget that acts on loading 

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[tw] Re: Transclude current tiddler avoiding recursion

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Finally! I got it! 

Here is how I did it:

* Use a special tab macro that renders everything except the current tiddler. 
* That macro adds a special button as the first one, which corresponds to the 
current tiddler 
* All the tabs folds the current tiddler and transclude the target tiddler 
using core's view template 
* The first tab is an exception and acts the opposite:it unfolds the current 
tiddler and shows nothing, so it looks like the tab content is the current 
tiddler 

Easy and without touching a single core tiddler. 

Regards 

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[tw] Re: [TW5] Tabs Help

[Tobias Beer]

Hi,

Can you perhaps create a more specific example on your demo wiki
and comment directly in there where you're stuck with it?

Best wishes,

Tobias.

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