[tw] Re: Plugins Group?

[Andrew]

Does anyone know about http://erwanm.github.io/tw-community-search/# anyone?

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[tw] Re: Best "equal" operator?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Here's a javascript filter  "equals" (based on 'field') to try. Since it 
compares based on text, not fields, operations like equals:myfield are 
meaningless. I left code in there that can process regular expressions, but 
didn't test if it still works since that approach to regular expressions 
has been deprecated.

After installing, these tests seemed to work as expected depending on what 
variables were set:

<$vars foo="stuff" bar="stuff">
<$list filter="[equals]">
THEY MATCH!


<$list filter="[!equals]">
THEY DON'T MATCH!





Have fun,
Mark

On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 12:45:22 PM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> I often want to test if e.g a field or variable has a certain value. How 
> do I best do this in a filter?
>
> [{foo!!bar}EQUALS[frotz]]
>
> ...what is "EQUALS" ?
>
> <:-)
>

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$__core_modules_filters_equals.js.json
Description: application/json

Re: [tw] Re: Best "equal" operator?

[Thomas Elmiger]

Eric’s solution works without title:

<$vars foo="froz" bar="froz">
<$list filter="[] -[]" emptyMessage="match">
no match



@Stephan, do you suggest it would be better to use the reveal widget?

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[tw] [TW5] Plugin import problem

[Sergey Litvinov]

I drag and drop a link with a plugin (as described in the manual) to my 
tiddlywiki (tried in different browsers), and.. it is imported, but as a 
standard tiddler with the text containing the initial link only. 

Plugins through the settings-plugins-get plugins are being installed correctly. 
So I need to download the HTML file containing the plugin, drop the full file 
to my tiddlywiki and then manually choose which tiddlers (with the plugin) to 
import. Sure - it's a workaround, but a bit complex. 

I wonder what happened with my tiddlywiki that it stopped recognizing the links 
with plugins. And what should I do to fix it?

Thank you in advance for your advises!

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[tw] Get tiddlywiki file size macro

[Sergey Litvinov]

Sorry, this is about TW5

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[tw] Get tiddlywiki file size macro

[Sergey Litvinov]

Hi everyone!

I need to render to a tiddler the size of my tiddlywiki HTML file. 

I understand that I need to create a JavaScript macro tiddler, but.. (sorry for 
my stupid question) which should be the code in the run() function body? 

Probably the code should differ depending on the platform, don't know. I need 
one for Mac and iPhone (Quine - the new version of TWEdit for IOS).

Thanks a lot for any help!)

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[tw] Re: Best "equal" operator?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

If you can call the filter as a macro, or call a macro to make the filter, 
then this works:

\define compare(foo,bar)
<$list filter="[title[$foo$]regexp[^$bar$$]]" emptyMessage="no match">
Matches! 

\end

<>

It needs to be set up as a macro so it can use regexp[^$bar$$] (or 
regexp[^$(bar)$$] if passed as an environmental variable.

What I don't understand, is why THIS doesn't work:

<$vars foo="stuff" bar="stuff">
<$list filter="[titlefield:title]" >
Matches!



I've looked over the spec.s for the field operator. It should select an 
input title if an only it matches it's parameter. And the title operator 
should generate a tiddler title to be matched. But it doesn't seem to work 
that way. Instead, the field:title only returns the input title if the 
input title actually exists as a tiddler. But the spec's don't say that.

Good luck!
Mark



On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 12:45:22 PM UTC-7, Mat wrote:
>
> I often want to test if e.g a field or variable has a certain value. How 
> do I best do this in a filter?
>
> [{foo!!bar}EQUALS[frotz]]
>
> ...what is "EQUALS" ?
>
> <:-)
>

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Re: [tw] Re: Fountain Parser for a screenwriting tool

[Jan]

Hi Josiah,
fountain (at least as it seems to me) is a markuplanguage with a 
freeware .js. Hopfully it could be implemented like markup is in the new 
release, some features are already very similar.

http://bjtools.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fbj%2Fmarkdownlike%2Freadme
There are implementations for libre-office and mediawiki.

Developping the story of course will be a task for TW.

Yours Jan


Am 28.08.2017 um 17:26 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:

I feel for you

Its a lot more difficult than it first looks.

The strictness of the screenplay form is both what is good about it 
and challenging.


I'm incapable of helping you with code. However I can help with 
conceptualisation of how to think about screenplays.


In my own thinking they are a mix of TWO fundamentally different types 
of things.


A script is a crossing of "vertical" sections (act, scene etc) and 
"horizontal" components that form the "content"  -- Dialogue, 
Direction, Actions, Scene instructions.


Whilst its relatively easy to think about Tiddlers to create the 
"vertical aspect" its not at all easy to conceptualise how to most 
appropriately do the "horizontal" content. Should they be separate 
Tiddlers? Or just Boilerplate text?


Some cases bring out more clearly the needs. For instance, would you 
need to be able to extract ALL but ONLY the dialogue of Eve? To be 
able to do that all Eve's dialogue would need to be in Tiddlers OR you 
gonna have to develop very smart Regular Expressions to extract it. 
The same applies to Scene Setting that Executive Producers &  DPs 
would need.


My feeling now about Fountain is its excellent if you going for the 
Regular Expressions extraction method. TW can actually do much more 
than Fountain. I think the issue is getting the right conceptual model 
to start from.


Just thoughts


On Monday, 28 August 2017 15:44:44 UTC+2, Jan wrote:

Hi all,
I am working on a tool for screenwriting (So far in german but with a
languageTiddler to configure: http://storywriting.tiddlyspot.com/
)
The aim should be managing ideas, roles and storylines and of course
formatting Wikitext  as a screenplay.
After hours of trying to adapt the normal rules and getting into an
awfull mess I finally decided I should follow an Idea brought up
by BJ
and Josiah and implement
the fountain library https://fountain.io/
Is there anyone who has done this already?
At the moment I got no clue how this could be achieved.

Yours Jan


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[tw] Re: Best "equal" operator?

[Stephan Hradek]

Am Montag, 28. August 2017 15:13:42 UTC+2 schrieb Mat:
>
> Thank you guys! As noted, the need is for it to be used inside a filter
>

And you cannot put the "equal" outside the filter to use reveal? 

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The triumph of Smartphones & The Cloud

[Riz]

Thanks, I ll check it out and update. 

Ciao Riz
>
> Glad you popped up. Your excellent experiment on "hashtag2tag" I just 
> recently tamed, with help of Mark S. into a fine finished product. The 
> discussion is here:
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/4hE3-KUOqkY/rcOYhvX9BAAJ
>
> and here
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/LqWPv8xzsho 
>
> On the way to the solution Mark S. modified core code that benefits 
> everyone.
>
> Let me know if you want the code of the finished thing.
>



 

>
>

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The triumph of Smartphones & The Cloud

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Riz

Glad you popped up. Your excellent experiment on "hashtag2tag" I just 
recently tamed, with help of Mark S. into a fine finished product. The 
discussion is here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/4hE3-KUOqkY/rcOYhvX9BAAJ

and here

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/LqWPv8xzsho 

On the way to the solution Mark S. modified core code that benefits 
everyone.

Let me know if you want the code of the finished thing.

Hope you are well
Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The triumph of Smartphones & The Cloud

[Lost Admin]

In my opinion, we need both Daniello's Noteself and Arlen's server. They 
solve different problems.

NoteSelf is for cloud synchronizing your tiddlywikis that will only ever be 
for your own personal access. Or possibly shared among a small group. It 
offers offline availability and online synchronization but it does so by 
breaking the "one file wiki" approach (although it includes functionality 
to save a single file). One wiki, one (or a few) person, many devices.

Arlen's server keeps the one file  but it only exists on one device. There 
is no cloud component. There is no sync. There is no sharing. One wiki, one 
file, one person.

Yes, you can skip the cloud component for Noteself (but then you are only 
using a subset of it's capabilities) and you can share your one file with 
Arlen's server, but that isn't part of Arlen's solution (as far as I know). 
They serve different needs.


And yes, they both deserve support from us.


The Raspberry Pi Pocket Server, on the other hand, is a much bigger (and in 
my opinion, much sillier) idea. Have something akin to a home network 
server (files, website, media, whatever) that you can carry around in your 
pocket. Useful if you have a home server you can access over the Internet 
but are going somewhere that doesn't have reliable Internet access. 
Otherwise, it is (to me) mostly an amusing exercise. Other people might 
have more practical uses. It's also probably not a good idea to bring onto 
an airplane. I'm sure gate security would be asking a lot of questions.

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 12:10:28 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote: 
>
> Riz
>
> Fully agree. Come November when Firefox will begin to fail chickens will 
> come home to roost and the need will be more obvious. Arlen's already 
> working solution is excellent. And i agree if anything deserves support, 
> its that. Its the best CONTINUITY option IMO. 
>
> That does not mean that the Daniello Way is lesser. In fact his method may 
> reach further. 
>
> Josiah
>
> On Monday, 28 August 2017 17:53:18 UTC+2, Riz wrote:
>>
>> Am I somehow thoroughly mistaken or isn't this exactly what was elegantly 
>> solved Arlen's TiddlyServer?
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The triumph of Smartphones & The Cloud

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Riz

Fully agree. Come November when Firefox will begin to fail chickens will 
come home to roost and the need will be more obvious. Arlen's already 
working solution is excellent. And i agree if anything deserves support, 
its that. Its the best CONTINUITY option IMO. 

That does not mean that the Daniello Way is lesser. In fact his method may 
reach further. 

Josiah

On Monday, 28 August 2017 17:53:18 UTC+2, Riz wrote:
>
> Am I somehow thoroughly mistaken or isn't this exactly what was elegantly 
> solved Arlen's TiddlyServer?
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[tw] Re: Opinion: The triumph of Smartphones & The Cloud

[Riz]

Am I somehow thoroughly mistaken or isn't this exactly what was elegantly 
solved Arlen's TiddlyServer? At under 500kb size, it is minimal as anything 
out there and can run on practically every platform available. If anything. 
IMHO, community should encourage Arlen to expand its feature set beyond TW. 
Say, a markdown parser, or and org-mode parser using existing node modules 
will convert it to a coveted knowledge-base solution.

Not to completely forget the efforts towards Danielo's NoteSelf. 

>
>
>

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[tw] Re: Opinion: The triumph of Smartphones & The Cloud

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

That was kind of my thought too. You could use a usb power pack and duck 
tape them together, I suppose. 

Mark

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 7:28:59 AM UTC-7, Lost Admin wrote:
>
> I wonder if I can find a powerful enough and small enough battery to be 
> able to carry a Raspberry Pi server in my pocket all day. An appropriate 
> case will be tough.
>
> On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 9:44:14 AM UTC-4, Mat wrote:
>>
>> @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps the future of TW lays in the Cloud and on Smartphones?
>>>
>>
>> Given the political tensions and all other disasters evolving... I kind 
>> of feel the future lies in TWs on Raspberry Pies or similar... :-/
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>>

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[tw] Re: Fountain Parser for a screenwriting tool

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I feel for you

Its a lot more difficult than it first looks.

The strictness of the screenplay form is both what is good about it and 
challenging.

I'm incapable of helping you with code. However I can help with 
conceptualisation of how to think about screenplays.

In my own thinking they are a mix of TWO fundamentally different types of 
things. 

A script is a crossing of "vertical" sections (act, scene etc) and 
"horizontal" components that form the "content"  -- Dialogue, Direction, 
Actions, Scene instructions.

Whilst its relatively easy to think about Tiddlers to create the "vertical 
aspect" its not at all easy to conceptualise how to most appropriately do 
the "horizontal" content. Should they be separate Tiddlers? Or just 
Boilerplate text?

Some cases bring out more clearly the needs. For instance, would you need 
to be able to extract ALL but ONLY the dialogue of Eve? To be able to do 
that all Eve's dialogue would need to be in Tiddlers OR you gonna have to 
develop very smart Regular Expressions to extract it. The same applies to 
Scene Setting that Executive Producers &  DPs would need. 

My feeling now about Fountain is its excellent if you going for the Regular 
Expressions extraction method. TW can actually do much more than Fountain. 
I think the issue is getting the right conceptual model to start from.

Just thoughts


On Monday, 28 August 2017 15:44:44 UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> Hi all, 
> I am working on a tool for screenwriting (So far in german but with a 
> languageTiddler to configure: http://storywriting.tiddlyspot.com/) 
> The aim should be managing ideas, roles and storylines and of course 
> formatting Wikitext  as a screenplay. 
> After hours of trying to adapt the normal rules and getting into an 
> awfull mess I finally decided I should follow an Idea brought up by BJ 
> and Josiah and implement 
> the fountain library https://fountain.io/ 
> Is there anyone who has done this already? 
> At the moment I got no clue how this could be achieved. 
>
> Yours Jan 
>
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

[Arlen Beiler]

Can anyone test whether the WebDAV saver works correctly if the file names
have spaces in them, and which server/browser combinations they work on?
Thanks,
-Arlen

On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 9:10 AM, PMario  wrote:

> Hi LostAdmin,
>
> That's a perfect reminder, to have a closer look at MS built-in stuff.
> WebDav is part of* Internet Information Services (IIS)*, which seems to
> be available for up to 20 users for Windows Vista, 7, 8.x and 10. ...
>
> I'm basically interested in a replacement for TiddlyFox and not in a
> "internet facing" setup. ...
>
> from win10 user terms
> .
>
>
> *2.  Installation and Use Rights.*
>> **
>>
>> *d.  Multi use scenarios.*
>>
>> 
>>
>> (iii)*Device connections*. You may allow up to 20 other devices to
>> access the software installed on the licensed device for the purpose of
>> using the following software features: file services, print services, 
>> Internet
>> information services, and Internet connection sharing and telephony
>> services on the licensed device. You may allow any number of devices to
>> access the software on the licensed device to synchronize data between
>> devices. This section does not mean, however, that you have the right to
>> install the software, or use the primary function of the software (other
>> than the features listed in this section), on any of these other devices.
>>
> So with the right settings, it *may be* possible to activate it for most
> windows machines. ... The important phrase is "may be", since nobody really
> knows, how  crippeld "Home xxx" and OEM Licenses really are.
>
> For those who are courious, *IIS *is the equivalent of the Apache and
> Lighttdp servers, that Lost Admin mentioned. ... So it should be possible
> to use the stuff for local installations.
>
> ... I'm not at home at the moment. So I can't run tests with my machine.
> But anyone who is interested, should expolore the docs
> ,
> run some tests and report back here.
>
> Especially interesting: OS version used! So we can see, if it works with
> "Home " licenses. I do have a Win10 Pro, wich I can test on :)
>
> have fun!
> mario
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[tw] Re: Opinion: The triumph of Smartphones & The Cloud

[Lost Admin]

I wonder if I can find a powerful enough and small enough battery to be 
able to carry a Raspberry Pi server in my pocket all day. An appropriate 
case will be tough.

On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 9:44:14 AM UTC-4, Mat wrote:
>
> @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps the future of TW lays in the Cloud and on Smartphones?
>>
>
> Given the political tensions and all other disasters evolving... I kind of 
> feel the future lies in TWs on Raspberry Pies or similar... :-/
>
> <:-)
>
>
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[tw] Fountain Parser for a screenwriting tool

[Jan]

Hi all,
I am working on a tool for screenwriting (So far in german but with a 
languageTiddler to configure: http://storywriting.tiddlyspot.com/)
The aim should be managing ideas, roles and storylines and of course 
formatting Wikitext  as a screenplay.
After hours of trying to adapt the normal rules and getting into an 
awfull mess I finally decided I should follow an Idea brought up by BJ 
and Josiah and implement

the fountain library https://fountain.io/
Is there anyone who has done this already?
At the moment I got no clue how this could be achieved.

Yours Jan


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[tw] Re: Opinion: The triumph of Smartphones & The Cloud

[Mat]

@TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Perhaps the future of TW lays in the Cloud and on Smartphones?
>

Given the political tensions and all other disasters evolving... I kind of 
feel the future lies in TWs on Raspberry Pies or similar... :-/

<:-)


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[tw] Re: Opinion: The triumph of Smartphones & The Cloud

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

The default saving mechanism is ok as long as you have a launcher to make 
re-starting easy. I've done this with Windows and I'm sure it could be done 
with Mac and Linux. My post on the topic seemed to be greeted with yawns, 
alas.

I think it should be possible to make a small Android app that would do the 
same for smartphones.

On my smartphone, admittedly 4 generations behind, loading TW takes too 
long. Worse Android will arbitrarily de-load when I switch away to another 
app for more than a minute. This is why when to take a note or share 
information I'm more likely to use Simplenote.

Mark


On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 5:54:55 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Perhaps the future of TW lays in the Cloud and on Smartphones? Hastened, 
> perhaps, by the on-coming demise of normal file-saving in both FF & Chrome, 
> the main futures may be: in-browser storage (Noteself), in-cloud storage 
> (Noteself; other emergent stuff. I think Jeremy is working on that?), 
> local, minimalist server that enables file-save (TiddlyServer) that also 
> allows, likely, best continuity with the past, especially on desktops. 
>
> Also the wide move towards extensive smartphone usage is clear. And to do 
> a lot of things iOS & Android are often more important now than PC & Mac.
>
> The CSS for TW is pretty good overall, but I wouldn't say it was optimal 
> for smartphones yet.
>
> Just speculative thoughts
> Josiah
>
> P.S. Part of this came from my thoughts on a Twitter post by Thomas 
> Elmiger of some Google research:  “96% of people turn to a smartphone to 
> get things done” 
> https://www.thinkwithgoogle.com/consumer-insights/mobile-search-consumer-behavior-data/
>
>

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[tw] Re: Best "equal" operator?

[Mat]

Thank you guys! As noted, the need is for it to be used inside a filter so 
Erics suggestion is the closest. It does have the limitation that you can't 
have other stuff in the filter because the filter will never be empty then. 
That's, of course, not what I asked for but I tried to simplify the 
question. Hopefully I can use this as a wrap around yet another filter.

Thank you!!

<:-)

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[tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

[PMario]

Hi LostAdmin,

That's a perfect reminder, to have a closer look at MS built-in stuff. 
WebDav is part of* Internet Information Services (IIS)*, which seems to be 
available for up to 20 users for Windows Vista, 7, 8.x and 10. ... 

I'm basically interested in a replacement for TiddlyFox and not in a 
"internet facing" setup. ...

from win10 user terms 
.
 


*2.  Installation and Use Rights.*
> **
>
> *d.  Multi use scenarios.*
>
> 
>
> (iii)*Device connections*. You may allow up to 20 other devices to 
> access the software installed on the licensed device for the purpose of 
> using the following software features: file services, print services, 
> Internet 
> information services, and Internet connection sharing and telephony 
> services on the licensed device. You may allow any number of devices to 
> access the software on the licensed device to synchronize data between 
> devices. This section does not mean, however, that you have the right to 
> install the software, or use the primary function of the software (other 
> than the features listed in this section), on any of these other devices.
>
So with the right settings, it *may be* possible to activate it for most 
windows machines. ... The important phrase is "may be", since nobody really 
knows, how  crippeld "Home xxx" and OEM Licenses really are. 

For those who are courious, *IIS *is the equivalent of the Apache and 
Lighttdp servers, that Lost Admin mentioned. ... So it should be possible 
to use the stuff for local installations. 

... I'm not at home at the moment. So I can't run tests with my machine. 
But anyone who is interested, should expolore the docs 
,
 
run some tests and report back here. 

Especially interesting: OS version used! So we can see, if it works with 
"Home " licenses. I do have a Win10 Pro, wich I can test on :)

have fun!
mario

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[tw] Opinion: The triumph of Smartphones & The Cloud

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Perhaps the future of TW lays in the Cloud and on Smartphones? Hastened, 
perhaps, by the on-coming demise of normal file-saving in both FF & Chrome, 
the main futures may be: in-browser storage (Noteself), in-cloud storage 
(Noteself; other emergent stuff. I think Jeremy is working on that?), 
local, minimalist server that enables file-save (TiddlyServer) that also 
allows, likely, best continuity with the past, especially on desktops. 

Also the wide move towards extensive smartphone usage is clear. And to do a 
lot of things iOS & Android are often more important now than PC & Mac.

The CSS for TW is pretty good overall, but I wouldn't say it was optimal 
for smartphones yet.

Just speculative thoughts
Josiah

P.S. Part of this came from my thoughts on a Twitter post by Thomas Elmiger 
of some Google research:  “96% of people turn to a smartphone to get things 
done” 
https://www.thinkwithgoogle.com/consumer-insights/mobile-search-consumer-behavior-data/

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[tw] Re: tiddlyfox

[@TiddlyTweeter]

You may want to read this thread that explains WHY it won't work in FF57 
and what you can do for the moment to get it working till at least spring 
next year.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/4yyMPH-0hXg/SjIOy7aeAgAJ

Best wishes
Josiah

On Thursday, 24 August 2017 15:23:12 UTC+2, Sergio Rolim wrote:
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> Some tiddlyfox update for Firefox Nightly 57 
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Re: [tw] Re: Filter to search for transclusions that do not exist...

[Jan]

Am 27.08.2017 um 19:47 schrieb Thomas Elmiger:

Cool, you found a way to do it, Jan! And even using one of my macros. That 
makes me a bit proud of both of us ;–)

Sorry, I am a bit slow at the moment. But great to see there are people like 
you that are able to find a solution themselves and publish it again to benefit 
others.

Herzliche Grüsse,
Thomas


Hello Thomas.
Extract is a really great thing which makes possible a lot of things. I 
wish it were part of the core for it would be much easier to to plugins 
using it. Could you open a pull-request for it?


Yours Jan

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[tw] Re: Best "equal" operator?

[Stephan Hradek]

What about the $reveal widget?

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[tw] Re: tiddlyfox

[PMario]

On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 3:23:12 PM UTC+2, Sergio Rolim wrote:
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> Some tiddlyfox update for Firefox Nightly 57 
>

It will need a completely new version, which is not available at the 
moment. 

-m

   

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