date:20171010

I'm sorry for the confusion.

   - Download TiddlyServer-2.0.7-nexe-win-64.zip from https://github.com/
   Arlen22/TiddlyServer/releases/tag/2.0.7
   
   - Unzip to your desired location.
   - Copy your settings.json inside the folder you just unzipped, next to
   the dist, assets, and tiddlywiki folders.
   - Open the dist folder, and double-click on server.exe

Don't worry about start.bat, it isn't needed in this case.

If something is not clear, please ask. I am sorry that I am not so clear
the first time around.

Thanks, Arlen

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:12 PM,  wrote:

> No luck, Arlen...
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 9:44:11 PM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>>
>> @codacoder, tiddlyserver-2.0.7-nexe is the download with the executable.
>> The one you downloaded is tiddlyserver-2.0.7-bundled. I'm sorry for the
>> confusion, I don't think I explained it correctly.
>>
>>
> Okay, I downloaded the nexe zip, extracted it, copied the folders from the
> unzipped set over the previous unzipped set, ran start.cmd, same error.
>
> Next, I unzipped the nexe zip again (clean), copied the start.cmd and
> settings.json from the old set into the nexe set up and got this:
>
>
> C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7-nexe>node server
> module.js:341
> throw err;
> ^
>
> Error: Cannot find module 'C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServ
> er-2.0.7-nexe\server'
> at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:339:15)
> at Function.Module._load (module.js:290:25)
> at Function.Module.runMain (module.js:447:10)
> at startup (node.js:139:18)
> at node.js:999:3
>
> C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7-nexe>pause
> Press any key to continue . . .
>
> So, here's where I'm at:
>
> I have Windows 7 with Node version 5.5.0 already installed.
>
> 1 - is having node already installed a problem for TS?
>
> 2 - Which download and which set of instructions should I follow?
>
> Coda
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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

2017-10-10 Thread codacodercodacoder

No luck, Arlen...

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 9:44:11 PM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
>
> @codacoder, tiddlyserver-2.0.7-nexe is the download with the executable. 
> The one you downloaded is tiddlyserver-2.0.7-bundled. I'm sorry for the 
> confusion, I don't think I explained it correctly. 
>
>
Okay, I downloaded the nexe zip, extracted it, copied the folders from the 
unzipped set over the previous unzipped set, ran start.cmd, same error.

Next, I unzipped the nexe zip again (clean), copied the start.cmd and 
settings.json from the old set into the nexe set up and got this:


C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7-nexe>node server
module.js:341
throw err;
^

Error: Cannot find module 
'C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7-nexe\server'
at Function.Module._resolveFilename (module.js:339:15)
at Function.Module._load (module.js:290:25)
at Function.Module.runMain (module.js:447:10)
at startup (node.js:139:18)
at node.js:999:3

C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7-nexe>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

So, here's where I'm at:

I have Windows 7 with Node version 5.5.0 already installed.

1 - is having node already installed a problem for TS?

2 - Which download and which set of instructions should I follow?

Coda

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Re: [tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

Popups that scroll if they are longer than the window. I remember
implementing this in TiddlyWiki Classic, but I'm not sure if I ever got it
for TiddlyWiki Five. Also center them in the window when the screen is
narrower than a certain amount. :)

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>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 2:48:26 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>>
>> Ouch! Collision while catching the ball :–)
>> Ex-volley-ball-player here, Mark. But I have to admit that my VB-level
>> was only very amateur-ish, just as my development-skills.
>> Cheers, Thomas
>>
>>
> Mine too, though I did manage to break someone's foot ... when they landed
> on mine!
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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

@Jim, you need to put a settings.json file next to the dist folder
containing the tiddlyserver settings.

@codacoder, tiddlyserver-2.0.7-nexe is the download with the executable.
The one you downloaded is tiddlyserver-2.0.7-bundled. I'm sorry for the
confusion, I don't think I explained it correctly.

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:32 PM,  wrote:

>
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 7:06:58 AM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> Good Morning everyone,
>> I just released an update to TiddlyServer. This release brings support
>> for nexe. So now I need people to test it. If you are interested, go to
>> https://github.com/Arlen22/TiddlyServer/releases/tag/2.0.7 and download
>> one of the nexe builds.
>>
>> For now, I only have windows and mac builds in 64 bit. The
>> settings.json file still belongs in the root folder, but the executable is
>> in the dist folder. Let me know how it works.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Arlen
>>
>
> I get this:
>
>
> C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7>node server
> C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7\src\server.js:186
> return server_types_1.obs_stat(state)(favicon).mergeMap(([err,
> stat]) => {
>  ^
>
> SyntaxError: Unexpected token [
> at exports.runInThisContext (vm.js:53:16)
> at Module._compile (module.js:387:25)
> at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:422:10)
> at Module.load (module.js:357:32)
> at Function.Module._load (module.js:314:12)
> at Module.require (module.js:367:17)
> at require (internal/module.js:16:19)
> at Object. (C:\DL\TiddlyServer\
> TiddlyServer-2.0.7\server.js:1:63)
> at Module._compile (module.js:413:34)
> at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:422:10)
>
> C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7>pause
> Press any key to continue . . .
>
> I downloaded the bundle zip file, extracted it, started with the example
> settings.json and cleaned out the comments, added a single alias "books":
> "some_path" and ran start.cmd.
>
> Does it matter the version of node installed if it's already installed? Or
> will it use the one in the bundle first?
>
> Coda
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[tw] Re: An Introduction and TiddlyWiki Project

2017-10-10 Thread RichardWilliamSmith

Hi Tony and Tib...

OERs are "Open Educational Resources" - something I've been pretty 
interested in myself. I made this some time ago, which is a 'port' of an 
excellent calculus textbook (by Matt Boelkins) to TW: 
https://didaxy.neocities.org/tiddlywiki/Active_Calculus_v0.1.html (takes a 
while to load)

The process I underwent was quite laborious - what we really need is a 
pipeline for ingesting tex (the defacto standard for academic publishing) 
and generating wikitext. My best guess for that was to write a wikitext 
plugin for Pandoc.

Something else I keep meaning to do more with is 
this: https://didaxy.neocities.org/tiddlywiki/KhanAcademy5114.html

It's a couple of years old now, but it's a TW index to lots of Khan Academy 
videos.

Good luck with your project, anyway - do you have a text already picked out 
or are you planning to mix elements from mulitiple sources?

Regards,
Richard

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

2017-10-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki


On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 2:48:26 PM UTC-7, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Ouch! Collision while catching the ball :–)
> Ex-volley-ball-player here, Mark. But I have to admit that my VB-level was 
> only very amateur-ish, just as my development-skills.
> Cheers, Thomas
>
>
Mine too, though I did manage to break someone's foot ... when they landed 
on mine!


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[tw] Re: Bad zoomin.js working with long tiddlers.

Archizona,

I understand,. there is a fundamental difference here, We do not use back 
or forward in TiddlyWiki, we remain on a single page all the time, Your 
example stores a scroll position for each page.

There are other ways to navigate in tiddlywiki, like using a Table of 
contents, or the Open (tiddlers) tab in the sidebar. or tabs (Yes it would 
be great.e if a tab could remember the scroll position).

What you raise is a little similar to my interest in a click to edit at 
cursor, but there are some architectural differences that need to be 
addressed.

Best of Luck
Tony

On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 5:31:57 AM UTC+11, Archizona V wrote:
>
> Hi,Tony! Your tabs don't solve this problem. The only way I have found is 
> to put some JS code to zoomin.js system tiddler. Here is my demo 
> https://Tupper.online  if you scroll to the bottom, click any picture and 
> the push back button, your will see that scroll position on the first page 
> is the same. 
>
> It will be very nice, if this modification will be in next TW5 releases 
>

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[tw] Re: An Introduction and TiddlyWiki Project

Welcome, to the TiddlyWiki community,

Your Name?

I think we have had others from SUNY Poly in the past, 
eg http://sunypoly-schedule-explorer.tiddlyspot.com/

What is "Calculus OER ", even just decompress the acronym OER, or tell us 
more about the nature of the data?

Some leads for you on graphical interaction,

   - Use a CSS Only solution http://familytree.tiddlyspot.com/ or TidGraph
   -  http://tiddlymap.org/
   - http://graphs.tiddlyspot.com/
   

I am not a mathematician, although I dabble, but I have some database and 
knowledge management skills, Tell us more and others will make connections 
to support you.

Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, October 11, 2017 at 12:30:31 AM UTC+11, tib...@sunyit.edu 
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I just wanted to introduce myself. I am currently working on my thesis as 
> a graduate student at SUNY Poly. I will be working on taking an existing 
> Calculus OER and importing it into TiddlyWiki. I plan to utilize the KaTeX 
> javascript library and also look into potential enhancements regarding 
> graphical interaction, mathematical formula calculation, etc.
>
> Would love to hear from anyone who is interested in or has experience with 
> things in this area.
>
> Thanks!
>

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

I replied late last night (Sydney time) on my Mobile only to loose my post 
to the digital grave yard.

I wanted to say this should be generalised rather than made specific to 
stylesheets. It should be quite easy to use a list field and step through 
each named tiddler removing then applying a named tag to the next in the 
list. It could be used to indicate one or more positions in a list,

It would be like using the list for OR rather than AND items.

Such a solution may let us use drag to drag a tag from one tiddler to 
another. More like a tag in the real world.

This would be helpful since so much of TiddlyWiki is driven by tags on 
tiddlers.

Tony

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

2017-10-10 Thread Thomas Elmiger

Ouch! Collision while catching the ball :–)
Ex-volley-ball-player here, Mark. But I have to admit that my VB-level was 
only very amateur-ish, just as my development-skills.
Cheers, Thomas

Am Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2017 23:35:22 UTC+2 schrieb Mark S.:
>
> If you don't mind a selection drop-down and and an activate button.
>
> Obviously potential developers need to do the volley-ball thing and call 
> "mine" if they're doing something.
>
> Mark
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 2:27:32 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> There are so many great programmers here I thought it might be a useful 
>> idea to have a general "Suggestions Box" for stuff that has not been (as 
>> far as I know) been implemented they might be interested in ...
>>
>
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[tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

2017-10-10 Thread codacodercodacoder

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 7:06:58 AM UTC-5, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> Good Morning everyone,
> I just released an update to TiddlyServer. This release brings support for 
> nexe. So now I need people to test it. If you are interested, go to 
> https://github.com/Arlen22/TiddlyServer/releases/tag/2.0.7 and download 
> one of the nexe builds. 
>
> For now, I only have windows and mac builds in 64 bit. The 
> settings.json file still belongs in the root folder, but the executable is 
> in the dist folder. Let me know how it works. 
>
> Thanks,
> Arlen
>

I get this:

C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7>node server
C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7\src\server.js:186
return server_types_1.obs_stat(state)(favicon).mergeMap(([err, 
stat]) => {
 ^

SyntaxError: Unexpected token [
at exports.runInThisContext (vm.js:53:16)
at Module._compile (module.js:387:25)
at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:422:10)
at Module.load (module.js:357:32)
at Function.Module._load (module.js:314:12)
at Module.require (module.js:367:17)
at require (internal/module.js:16:19)
at Object. 
(C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7\server.js:1:63)
at Module._compile (module.js:413:34)
at Object.Module._extensions..js (module.js:422:10)

C:\DL\TiddlyServer\TiddlyServer-2.0.7>pause
Press any key to continue . . .

I downloaded the bundle zip file, extracted it, started with the example 
settings.json and cleaned out the comments, added a single alias "books": 
"some_path" and ran start.cmd.

Does it matter the version of node installed if it's already installed? Or 
will it use the one in the bundle first?

Coda

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

2017-10-10 Thread Thomas Elmiger

Hi Josiah

This was simply a great idea – and relatively simple to build. I didn’t 
like the cycle though. 
So here’s my Stylesheet Manager: 
http://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html#Stylesheet%20Manager 

Changing the filter at the top (e.g. the search part) allows you to show 
only the Stylesheets you want to juggle with:
 
\define myfilter() 
[tag[$:/tags/Stylesheet]search[vanilla/base]sort[title]]
\end

Have fun!
Thomas

Am Dienstag, 10. Oktober 2017 11:36:29 UTC+2 schrieb @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> *Suggestion #1: Stylesheet Toggler*
>

[...]

Workings: Simply adds and removes the tag activating stylesheet 
>

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[tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

2017-10-10 Thread Jim



This is what I get





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[tw] Help on a macro to generate the adress of an Iframe needed.

2017-10-10 Thread Jan


Hello,
I am lost making a macro to generate a Temporary Wikipedia Tiddler. This 
means it should open a Tiddler with an Iframe containing the Wikipedia 
article. I do not arrive to insert the subject into the Iframe.
Somehow the wikify-part does not seem to work because the generated 
Tiddler has not text at all, but also the frame shown (for test purpose) 
has no the correct suffix that should be inserted via the variable...


---

\define Wikiframe2(subject)
<$macrocall $name="Wikiframe" subject="""$subject$""" />
\end

\define Wikiframe(subject)
src="https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/$subject$; 
style="width:110%;height:95vh;" scrolling="yes">

\end

\define Wikipedia(subject)
<$button>
<$wikify name="insert" text=<>>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="""$:/temp/Wikipedia/$subject$""" 
text=<>/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="""$:/temp/Wikipedia/$subject$""" 
tags="Wikipedia"/>
<$action-setfield $tiddler="""$:/temp/Wikipedia/$subject$""" 
alias="$subject$"/>

<$action-navigate $to="""$:/temp/Wikipedia/$subject$"""/>
Wikipedia:$subject$


<>
\end

<>

---

Thanks for help
Jan

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Re: [tw] Graph, scatter

2017-10-10 Thread Mat

Pit,

OK, so I made this  temporary but working 
solution for you . I'll incorporate it into graphs  
at some later stage.

But please, as stated:  kindly remove that other post in the other thread 
where you initially posted.

<:-)

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Re: [tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

I beg your pardon. If you download the nexe zip for your platform, and
unzip it, then you should be able to go into the dist folder and run the
binary contained in it. It's compiled into one executable instead of being
a bunch of loose javascript files.

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> Could you explain what "nexe" is about?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
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[tw] Re: Bad zoomin.js working with long tiddlers.

2017-10-10 Thread Archizona V

Hi,Tony! Your tabs don't solve this problem. The only way I have found is to 
put some JS code to zoomin.js system tiddler. Here is my demo 
https://Tupper.online  if you scroll to the bottom, click any picture and the 
push back button, your will see that scroll position on the first page is the 
same. 

It will be very nice, if this modification will be in next TW5 releases 

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

2017-10-10 Thread Lost Admin

If you are familiar with setting up Apache, you could definitely set-up an 
Apache WebDav server. I just followed some generic how-to guides that 
explains the settings needed to get WebDav, TLS (and letsencrypt), and 
authentication working on Apache.

The issue is with using TiddlyWiki. When you save your wiki, it sends an 
HTTP PUT method request. You either get a normal save (like we are used to 
with TiddlyWiki) or a somewhat cryptic 412 error.

The 412 error indicates the save didn't happen because the version on the 
server is "newer" than the version your browser has. It works nicely when 
multiple people try to edit the same TiddlyWiki file (I tested this myself).

Unfortunately, in order to get the magic ETag value after you save a 
change, you need to reload TiddlyWiki because you don't get an update to it 
after the PUT request.

*Note:* ETag is just an HTTP header that the server sends with a GET 
request. It changes when the file changes. When TiddlyWiki saves (does the 
PUT) it sends the ETag back to the server effectively saying, "save the 
file if the ETag is this otherwise give me an error".

I am planning on writing up a full setup guide to create your own WebDav 
server using Apache, TLS, Letsencrypt, and HTTP Basic Auth (in digest mode) 
but I'm not going to until it works properly. Which means without needing 
to reload. Sadly, my programming skills are seriously lacking. I think I 
know what should be done in TiddlyWiki's webdav saver, but I don't have the 
skills to do it.

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 1:27:04 PM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Where are we with this?
>
> Could a newbie cope?
>
> Is the install outlined above consistent & reliable?
>
> Josiah
>
>

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[tw] Re: Tidgraph question

2017-10-10 Thread magasine




Hello

I chose to create a template that I called "Template - MindMap" with the 
following information:

!! {{!! summary}}
<$ button>
<$ action-navigate $ to = "Menu" />
Menu

<$ button set = !! setto = "S"> {{$: / core / images / chevron-down}} 
<$ button set = !!  
<$ button set = !! maxdepth setTo = "- 1"> Min 
<$ button set = !! maxdepth setTo = "1"> 1 
<$ button set = !! maxdepth setTo = "2"> 2 
<$ button set = !! maxdepth setTo = "3"> 3 
<$ button set = !! maxdepth setTo = "10"> Max 
^^ @@ color: gray; ({{!! !! maxdepth}}) @@ ^^


<$ tidgraph start = {{title}} maxdepth = {{!! maxdepth}} layout = {{!! 
layout}}


For rendering, create any tiddler with a tag name and place the 
transclusion statement in the body:

{{|| Template - MindMap}}


and also the following fields:

maxdepth = 2
layout = E
summary = abc


Greetings

Em sábado, 7 de outubro de 2017 13:57:01 UTC-3, Ste Wilson escreveu:
>
> I use the wonderful tidgraph (
> https://ihm4u.github.io/tw5plugs/#Tidgraph%20-%20Easy%20tiddler%20graphs%20for%20TW5)
>  
> I'm my Wiki. 
> Quick (hopefully) question. Is it possible to have a default view where 
> the graph is collapsed to the first level? 
>
> Cheers 
>
> Stephen. 
>
>

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

2017-10-10 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

Where are we with this?

Could a newbie cope?

Is the install outlined above consistent & reliable?

Josiah

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Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] WebDav Saver Observations.

2017-10-10 Thread Lost Admin

Further on the complexity of ETag and why Apache (and generic web servers) 
should not send an updated ETag in response to a PUT:

https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-reschke-http-etag-on-write-09.html


On Thursday, September 14, 2017 at 3:23:30 PM UTC-4, Lost Admin wrote:
>
> I finally found something that properly talks about Etags. You can infer 
> why we don't get an ETag header in the response to a PUT (for both Apache 
> and IIS). 
> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/42246577/why-responses-to-put-requests-must-not-provide-an-etag
>
> You can skip going to the link if you want to. It is asking for an 
> explanation of when to send an ETag or not and I think we can use what it 
> quotes to get the understanding.
>
> *An origin server MUST NOT send a validator header field* (Section 7.2 
> ), such as an ETag or 
> Last-Modified field, in a successful response to PUT unless the request's 
> representation data was saved without any transformation applied to the 
> body (i.e., the resource's new representation data is identical to the 
> representation data received in the PUT request) and the validator field 
> value reflects the new representation. This requirement allows a user agent 
> to know when the representation body it has in memory remains current as a 
> result of the PUT, thus not in need of being retrieved again from the 
> origin server, and that *the new validator(s) received in the response 
> can be used for future conditional requests* in order to prevent 
> accidental overwrites (Section 5.2 
> ).
>
> Apache (and IIS) allow for the server to be configured such that you can 
> add a custom processor to specific HTTP actions (like PUT) that are 
> completely independent of WebDAV (I forget how but I did one for a post 
> call once because we didn't have source and needed to re-mangle some of the 
> user input).
>
> This means that the Apache web server doesn't know for sure that what you 
> send in the PUT through WebDAV will be what it picks up on the next GET. 
> So, can't send and updated ETag.
>
> I imagine the same goes for IIS.
>
> Lighttpd doesn't appear to honor etag and If-Match headers so Lighttpd is 
> broken. Nginx (I've been told) has a very primitive webdav module so is 
> also not suitable for this discussion.
>
> On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 4:59:40 PM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so how *does* web dav take care of making sure someone is editing 
>> the latest version? Or does it use the entirely file-system concept of 
>> locking files for editing?
>>
>> Are we barking up the wrong tree with the idea of using web DAV? It is 
>> entirely file system centered. The fact that it can handle web requests 
>> seems almost incidental. Or maybe it is just the simple fact that the PUT 
>> saver nowhere near implements the entire DAV protocol. 
>>
>> What protocol talks about Etags in 204 responses? The one I found only 
>> mentions it once in relation to a PUT request by saying that there is no 
>> specific definition of whether it should guarantee the file content is 
>> exactly byte-for-byte identical to the PUT request.  
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4918.txt
>>
>> The HTTP/1.1 spec is at https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2616.txt
>>
>> I can't find anything in either of those just by searching for "etag".
>>
>> Just some thoughts.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:48 AM, Lost Admin  wrote:
>>
>>> I've been trying to dig into the proper specs on the use of ETag and it 
>>> looks like it is only supposed to be sent from the server along with the 
>>> data. Thus the PUT request is not supposed to include a new ETag. I 
>>> *think* Apache is actually doing it right.
>>>
>>> Also, I did the same series of screenshots on my test Lighttpd server 
>>> (which doesn't experience the same 412 error) and for some reason, the 
>>> If-Match header gets dropped from the subsequent PUT requests headers. I 
>>> don't know why it would be different as I think that header is coming from 
>>> the client side.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 9:18:07 AM UTC-4, Arlen Beiler wrote:

 It is becoming pretty clear that for some reason the Etag is not being 
 set in the response header, nor anything else equivalent to it. Per our 
 discussion privately, it does seem that this is an Apache issue, however I 
 have not been able to look into it further. 

 A couple of articles which touch on this: 

- 

 https://fullstackhack.wordpress.com/2014/12/10/the-pain-of-etags-mod_deflate-apache-2-4-and-tomcat-7/
 
- https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/caching.html

 At some point I will test it on one of my servers and see if I can get 
 it working. However, it is obvious that this is the problem. One option 
 would be to make a second head request if the 204 response does not 
 contain

[tw] Re: Bug report: Creating New Journal Tiddler deletes existing Journal Tiddler

2017-10-10 Thread Michael Wiktowy

Thanks. That matches my problem and, while a related problem from 2009 
turned up in a google search, this didn't.
I didn't see the details of a new-journal.tid workaround in that thread and 
am hesitant to start poking around in the system tiddlers. Knowing about 
the problem makes it easy to work around. I just didn't want it catching 
new users with data loss.

/Mike

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 11:15:17 AM UTC-4, Rob Hoelz wrote:
>
> It's already reported: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2845
>
> Until a fix is released, you could just fix your $:/
> core/ui/PageControls/new-journal.tid 
> 
>
> -Rob
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 10:10:37 AM UTC-5, Mat wrote:
>>
>> Confirmed!
>> Definitely a bug.
>> Could you post this on github?
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 4:58:43 PM UTC+2, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
>>>
>>> Greetings all,
>>>
>>> Description:
>>> There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when 
>>> there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the 
>>> existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing, 
>>> appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning 
>>> banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty 
>>> tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of 
>>> cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
>>>
>>> Method to reproduce:
>>> 1) Create a journal entry.
>>> 2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal 
>>> entry of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal 
>>> tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new 
>>> Journal Tiddler" button.
>>> 3) Save newly created tiddler.
>>> 4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
>>>
>>> Expected Results:
>>> Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
>>> Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name 
>>> exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on 
>>> saving.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> /Mike
>>>
>>
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[tw] Re: Bug report: Creating New Journal Tiddler deletes existing Journal Tiddler

2017-10-10 Thread Mat

Confirmed!
Definitely a bug.
Could you post this on github?

<:-)


On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 4:58:43 PM UTC+2, Michael Wiktowy wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
>
> Description:
> There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when 
> there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the 
> existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing, 
> appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning 
> banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty 
> tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of 
> cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.
>
> Method to reproduce:
> 1) Create a journal entry.
> 2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal entry 
> of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal 
> tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new 
> Journal Tiddler" button.
> 3) Save newly created tiddler.
> 4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning
>
> Expected Results:
> Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
> Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name 
> exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on 
> saving.
>
> Thanks,
> /Mike
>

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[tw] Graph, scatter

2017-10-10 Thread Pit.W.


Hello Mat von TWaddle,

I am looking at the Scatter graph, and I wonder:
is it possible to have a graph, where beside the x and y values for the
2 axis, a third value is displyed by the size of the dot / bubble?

The idea isto have something like the Boston-Consulting matrix.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Consulting_Group#/media/File:Folio_Plot_BCG_Matrix_Example.png 
 




Kind regards

Pit


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[tw] Bug report: Creating New Journal Tiddler deletes existing Journal Tiddler

2017-10-10 Thread Michael Wiktowy

Greetings all,

Description:
There is an issue using the "Create a new journal tiddler" button when
there is an existing one of the same name. Rather then use one of the
existing name collision mechanisms (opening existing tiddler for editing,
appending an incremental index on to the tiddler name or putting a warning
banner that an existing tiddler exists with the same name), a new empty
tiddler is opened with the same name and if it is saved instead of
cancelled, the old existing journal is overwritten without warning.

Method to reproduce:
1) Create a journal entry.
2) Within the same time increment that would create another journal entry
of the same name (different depending on the "Title of new journal
tiddlers" format in settings), create a new one using the "Create a new
Journal Tiddler" button.
3) Save newly created tiddler.
4) Previous journal tiddler gets deleted without warning

Expected Results:
Step 2) should load the existing tiddler to edit , or
Step 3) should give a warning that an existing tiddler of the same name
exists either in the editing toolbar or an "Are you sure?"-type popup on
saving.

Thanks,
/Mike

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[tw] Re: An Aside: Learning Curves

Here is the precise source of the phrase:

Matthew 6.2-4

“So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the 
hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by 
others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But 
when you give to the needy, *do not let your left hand know what your right 
hand is doing*, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, 
who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 10:04:47 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The common meaning of stuff happens when people guess at what a phrase 
> means. Eventually the common meaning becomes the effective meaning.
>
> The one that always bother me is "left hand doesn't know what the right 
> hand does"
>
> The original context of this saying was about giving. i.e. Give without 
> paying attention to how much.
>
> But today it's almost always used in the context of dysfunctional 
> government or organizations.
>
> Mark
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 3:09:30 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao David & others
>>
>> The discussion was interesting. I think I wasn't quite as explicit in my 
>> bits as I could have been. 
>>
>> The origin of "learning curve" dates back some time in psychology (1920's 
>> and before) when this kind of curve ...
>>
>>
>> ...meant you learnt quite fast at the start but eventually plateau.
>>
>> Sometime in the 1970's the idea of "steep learning curve" emerged that is 
>> metaphorically the opposite. That the "steepness is effort, not gain". That 
>> is NOT what the original research showed. 
>>
>> I'm interested sociologically and linguistically in the contradiction 
>> between the older (still relevant psychology) and the wider meaning the 
>> "steep" version adopted.
>>
>> Well, I did say it was an "aside" :-)
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>> Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>>>
>>> Steep learning curve is fine if you know there will eventually be a 
>>> payoff worth the steep effort. But most newbies aren't sure it will be 
>>> worth the effort. 
>>>
>>
>

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[tw] Re: An Aside: Learning Curves

2017-10-10 Thread Lost Admin

I always wondered where that one came from.

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 10:04:47 AM UTC-4, Mark S. wrote:
>
> The common meaning of stuff happens when people guess at what a phrase 
> means. Eventually the common meaning becomes the effective meaning.
>
> The one that always bother me is "left hand doesn't know what the right 
> hand does"
>
> The original context of this saying was about giving. i.e. Give without 
> paying attention to how much.
>
> But today it's almost always used in the context of dysfunctional 
> government or organizations.
>
> Mark
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 3:09:30 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao David & others
>>
>> The discussion was interesting. I think I wasn't quite as explicit in my 
>> bits as I could have been. 
>>
>> The origin of "learning curve" dates back some time in psychology (1920's 
>> and before) when this kind of curve ...
>>
>>
>> ...meant you learnt quite fast at the start but eventually plateau.
>>
>> Sometime in the 1970's the idea of "steep learning curve" emerged that is 
>> metaphorically the opposite. That the "steepness is effort, not gain". That 
>> is NOT what the original research showed. 
>>
>> I'm interested sociologically and linguistically in the contradiction 
>> between the older (still relevant psychology) and the wider meaning the 
>> "steep" version adopted.
>>
>> Well, I did say it was an "aside" :-)
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Josiah
>>
>> Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>>>
>>> Steep learning curve is fine if you know there will eventually be a 
>>> payoff worth the steep effort. But most newbies aren't sure it will be 
>>> worth the effort. 
>>>
>>
>

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[tw] Re: Testers needed for TiddlyServer

2017-10-10 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Could you explain what "nexe" is about? 

Thanks,
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[tw] An Introduction and TiddlyWiki Project

2017-10-10 Thread tibbitl

Hi All,

I just wanted to introduce myself. I am currently working on my thesis as a 
graduate student at SUNY Poly. I will be working on taking an existing 
Calculus OER and importing it into TiddlyWiki. I plan to utilize the KaTeX 
javascript library and also look into potential enhancements regarding 
graphical interaction, mathematical formula calculation, etc.

Would love to hear from anyone who is interested in or has experience with 
things in this area.

Thanks!

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[tw] Re: An Aside: Learning Curves

Ciao TonyM

I agree and disagree. 

I agree in the sense that "steep learning curve" has escaped, through 
modern usage, its connection with the 1920's psychologists "learning 
curves". 

I disagree in the sense that the modern usage of the term is any way 
compatible with the originating scholastic metaphors. That is WHY its 
interesting to me. Tensions like this say a lot about broader cultural 
CHANGE IMO.

Enough of this aside already. I'll shut up.

Josiah

TonyM wrote:
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> Interesting, 
>
> I am not sure they are opposites.
>
>

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[tw] Re: An Aside: Learning Curves

Interesting, 

I am not sure they are opposites.

perhaps It depends on why you are learning. If something has a steep learning 
curve wether it is quick and easy at the begining it still indicates the need 
to learn a lot. If I use a steep learning curve to indicate the amount of 
learning required regardless of its difficulty tge can be the same thing.

perhaps this is how the meaning migrated to its apparent opposite.

regards
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[tw] Testers needed for TiddlyServer

2017-10-10 Thread Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/

Good Morning everyone,
I just released an update to TiddlyServer. This release brings support for
nexe. So now I need people to test it. If you are interested, go to
https://github.com/Arlen22/TiddlyServer/releases/tag/2.0.7 and download one
of the nexe builds.

For now, I only have windows and mac builds in 64 bit. The
settings.json file still belongs in the root folder, but the executable is
in the dist folder. Let me know how it works.

Thanks,
Arlen

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[tw] Re: An Aside: Learning Curves

oh, I was not aware of that.

On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 at 6:09:30 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao David & others
>
> The discussion was interesting. I think I wasn't quite as explicit in my 
> bits as I could have been. 
>
> The origin of "learning curve" dates back some time in psychology (1920's 
> and before) when this kind of curve ...
>
>
> ...meant you learnt quite fast at the start but eventually plateau.
>
> Sometime in the 1970's the idea of "steep learning curve" emerged that is 
> metaphorically the opposite. That the "steepness is effort, not gain". That 
> is NOT what the original research showed. 
>
> I'm interested sociologically and linguistically in the contradiction 
> between the older (still relevant psychology) and the wider meaning the 
> "steep" version adopted.
>
> Well, I did say it was an "aside" :-)
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>>
>> Steep learning curve is fine if you know there will eventually be a 
>> payoff worth the steep effort. But most newbies aren't sure it will be 
>> worth the effort. 
>>
>

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Re: [tw] New favicon for TiddlyServer - Comments?

Ciao Arlen

You don't need the whole cat. A face would do. Or a tail. Or a comic 
version.

More seriously, I favour use of the cat *in some way* because its the 
nearest thing we have to a signature mark. 





Thomas gave some images too.

How about the last one with the letters "TS" scaled to fill it?

Alternatively one could just use the shape you present but have some "Cat 
Badge" appear somewhere else.

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw] New favicon for TiddlyServer - Comments?

2017-10-10 Thread Pit.W.

Looks great but,...

tiddly.* without cat?

Really? I dont know...

Thats like Apple without apple, Mercedes without star...

(There is a similar but different cat in Riga:
https://www.tripadvisor.de/Attraction_Review-g274967-d289084-Reviews-Cat_House-Riga_Riga_Region.html,
and since Jack is rumoured to come from a farawy place, to)

Having the same icon/logo on very component makes it easier for
newcomers. And branding helps...

Pit

Am 2017-10-09 um 22:28 schrieb Arlen Beiler:

Hello Everyone,
I made a new icon for TiddlyServer, since every windows program needs
an icon :)

What do you think? Do you like it? Don't like it? The hexagonal shape
is inspired by NodeJS. I didn't really want to include the cat because
it felt like too much noise. But maybe I don't need to. After all,
something distinctive stands by itself after a day or two.

Thanks,
Arlen

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Re: [tw] Timeline idea

2017-10-10 Thread Pit.W.


Zekin,


You probably know...

http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/

http://graphs.tiddlyspot.com/  (look for chronology)


Pit


Am 2017-10-10 um 09:16 schrieb zekin25...@gmail.com:

Is it possible to implement this in TW5? It looks very nice.

http://timeline.knightlab.com/


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Re: [tw] Timeline idea

2017-10-10 Thread Jan

Hello,
There already is a good Solution:
http://kixam.github.io/TW5-visjsTimeline/

My only desire I would have some more tolerance regarding the
input-format of the Date.
It would be nice if you could enter as well as /mm and
/mm/dd because some times dates have different formats/precisions

Greetings
Jan

Am 10.10.2017 um 09:16 schrieb zekin25...@gmail.com:

Is it possible to implement this in TW5? It looks very nice.

http://timeline.knightlab.com/

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[tw] Re: An Aside: Learning Curves

Ciao David & others

The discussion was interesting. I think I wasn't quite as explicit in my 
bits as I could have been. 

The origin of "learning curve" dates back some time in psychology (1920's 
and before) when this kind of curve ...

...meant you learnt quite fast at the start but eventually plateau.

Sometime in the 1970's the idea of "steep learning curve" emerged that is 
metaphorically the opposite. That the "steepness is effort, not gain". That 
is NOT what the original research showed. 

I'm interested sociologically and linguistically in the contradiction 
between the older (still relevant psychology) and the wider meaning the 
"steep" version adopted.

Well, I did say it was an "aside" :-)

Best wishes
Josiah

Dave Gifford - http://www.giffmex.org/ wrote:
>
> Steep learning curve is fine if you know there will eventually be a payoff 
> worth the steep effort. But most newbies aren't sure it will be worth the 
> effort. 
>

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[tw] Re: Suggestions Box ...

*Suggestion #1*

Aim: A button that cycles different CSS stylesheets ($:/tags/Stylesheet)

Workings: Simply adds and removes the tag activating stylesheet through a 
cycle. Each click on the button advancing one. A Data Tiddler holds the 
addresses of styling Tiddlers included in the cycle. 

Benefits: 
1 - Lets users modify layout easily.
2 - Aids CSS design.

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw] Suggestions Box ...

There are so many great programmers here I thought it might be a useful 
idea to have a general "Suggestions Box" for stuff that has not been (as 
far as I know) been implemented they might be interested in ...

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Re: [tw] Re: [Theme] Moments: A little color won't hurt

2017-10-10 Thread Sylvain Naudin



Le mardi 10 octobre 2017 04:44:00 UTC+2, Riz a écrit :
>
> I ll check and get back to you. Any idea what is specifically the issue? 


You can check the screenshot on the post linked. It's a core update on 
$:/core/modules/widgets/keyboard.js, line 36, and about div to span.

Sylvain

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[tw] Re: TW5: How to move the sidebar from the right side to the left

2017-10-10 Thread Sylvain Naudin

Hello,

You can check Riz work here with a ready to use json : 
https://tesseract-index.bitbucket.io/UI/leftsidebar.html


Cheers,
Sylvain

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[tw] Re: TW5: How to move the sidebar from the right side to the left

2017-10-10 Thread Birthe C

I tried that long ago. I just upgraded and cleaned out at least most of my 
notes. Find it here: http://leftie.tiddlyspot.com/

Hope you will get some ideas,
Birthe


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[tw] Re: [TW5] Expense tracking plugin