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Mark!
 You are right, it works

On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 4:51:59 AM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I don't know what the default was in the past. But just turn off preview 
> in any tiddler's edit pane, and after that new tiddlers will be made 
> without the preview pane opened.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:48:06 PM UTC-7, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> If you go to tiddlywiki.com and click to make a new tiddler, the preview 
>> pane will be active by default. Unless I'm crazy, this wasn't always the 
>> case? This also the case on my recently upgraded wiki. How can I correct 
>> this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Diego
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Organizing Tiddlers for speech and lecturing

Mark!
I did what you advised nothing happened! Should I download the TW and save 
and reload it?

On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 3:57:43 AM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> If you have a TOC or other set of items driven by a list field, then you 
> can use this code. (In this example, create a tiddler at tiddlywiki.com 
> and tag it $:/tags/ViewTemplate and populate as follows):
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[HelloThere]]">
> <$button>
> <$action-listops $tiddler="HelloThere" $subfilter="+[move:-1{!!title}]"/>
> << Move back 
> 
>
> <$button>
> <$action-listops $tiddler="HelloThere" $subfilter="+[move:1{!!title}]"/>
> Move forward >>
> 
> 
>
> -- Mark
>
>
> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:55:00 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> One important requirements to use TW for presentation or lecturing is to 
>> have tiddlers in order.
>> There are some ways. My question is here
>>
>> *How one can have a macro or widget to show at the bottom of tiddler a 
>> back/next link to move to previous or next tiddler.*
>>
>> The tiddler can be saved in a story.
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Organizing Tiddlers for speech and lecturing

Thank you all!
I could use the snippet by Thomas and it works.

My next question is *How can I bind some keys with these Next/Previous?*

I mean in the zoomin story view or TalkyTalky Tiddlywiki I wish ti have

   - PageDown (and arrow down) for Next tiddler in the storyriver
   - PageUp (and arrow up) for previous tiddler in the storyriver


Best
Mohammad

On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 2:10:08 AM UTC+4:30, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad
>
> I used this for presentations, it is inspired by a solution from Steve 
> SUNY, if I remember right.
>
> Have fun!
> Thomas
>
> 
> <$list filter="[all[current]next[$:/StoryList]]">
> <$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="next">
> {{$:/core/images/down-arrow}}
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <$list filter="[all[current]previous[$:/StoryList]]">
> <$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="previous">
> {{$:/core/images/up-arrow}}
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> Am Donnerstag, 26. April 2018 22:55:00 UTC+2 schrieb Mohammad:
>>
>> One important requirements to use TW for presentation or lecturing is to 
>> have tiddlers in order.
>> There are some ways. My question is here
>>
>> *How one can have a macro or widget to show at the bottom of tiddler a 
>> back/next link to move to previous or next tiddler.*
>>
>> The tiddler can be saved in a story.
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Possible Bug: New Tiddlers open with preview pane on?

Hm. Thats not what im seeing in my tiddlywiki

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 7:21:59 PM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> I don't know what the default was in the past. But just turn off preview 
> in any tiddler's edit pane, and after that new tiddlers will be made 
> without the preview pane opened.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:48:06 PM UTC-7, Diego Mesa wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> If you go to tiddlywiki.com and click to make a new tiddler, the preview 
>> pane will be active by default. Unless I'm crazy, this wasn't always the 
>> case? This also the case on my recently upgraded wiki. How can I correct 
>> this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Diego
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Possible Bug: New Tiddlers open with preview pane on?

2018-04-26 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

I don't know what the default was in the past. But just turn off preview in 
any tiddler's edit pane, and after that new tiddlers will be made without 
the preview pane opened.

-- Mark

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:48:06 PM UTC-7, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> If you go to tiddlywiki.com and click to make a new tiddler, the preview 
> pane will be active by default. Unless I'm crazy, this wasn't always the 
> case? This also the case on my recently upgraded wiki. How can I correct 
> this?
>
> Thanks,
> Diego
>

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[tw5] Re: Organizing Tiddlers for speech and lecturing

2018-04-26 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

If you have a TOC or other set of items driven by a list field, then you 
can use this code. (In this example, create a tiddler at tiddlywiki.com and 
tag it $:/tags/ViewTemplate and populate as follows):

<$list filter="[all[current]tag[HelloThere]]">
<$button>
<$action-listops $tiddler="HelloThere" $subfilter="+[move:-1{!!title}]"/>
<< Move back 


<$button>
<$action-listops $tiddler="HelloThere" $subfilter="+[move:1{!!title}]"/>
Move forward >>



-- Mark


On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:55:00 PM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> One important requirements to use TW for presentation or lecturing is to 
> have tiddlers in order.
> There are some ways. My question is here
>
> *How one can have a macro or widget to show at the bottom of tiddler a 
> back/next link to move to previous or next tiddler.*
>
> The tiddler can be saved in a story.
>
>
> Best
>
>
>

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[tw5] Possible Bug: New Tiddlers open with preview pane on?

Hey all,

If you go to tiddlywiki.com and click to make a new tiddler, the preview 
pane will be active by default. Unless I'm crazy, this wasn't always the 
case? This also the case on my recently upgraded wiki. How can I correct 
this?

Thanks,
Diego

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[tw5] Re: Organizing Tiddlers for speech and lecturing

2018-04-26 Thread Thomas Elmiger

Hi Mohammad

I used this for presentations, it is inspired by a solution from Steve 
SUNY, if I remember right.

Have fun!
Thomas


<$list filter="[all[current]next[$:/StoryList]]">
<$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="next">
{{$:/core/images/down-arrow}}




<$list filter="[all[current]previous[$:/StoryList]]">
<$link to={{!!title}} tooltip="previous">
{{$:/core/images/up-arrow}}





Am Donnerstag, 26. April 2018 22:55:00 UTC+2 schrieb Mohammad:
>
> One important requirements to use TW for presentation or lecturing is to 
> have tiddlers in order.
> There are some ways. My question is here
>
> *How one can have a macro or widget to show at the bottom of tiddler a 
> back/next link to move to previous or next tiddler.*
>
> The tiddler can be saved in a story.
>
>
> Best
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Organizing Tiddlers for speech and lecturing

Thank you Diego!
I 'll try it

On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 1:43:05 AM UTC+4:30, Diego Mesa wrote:
>
> Hey Mohammad, 
>
> I worked on something like this for my anwiki plugin. The following macro 
> establishes a "linked list" of tiddlers, by setting the "next" field of a 
> tiddler to the tiddler next in the chain. It uses Evan's formula plugin 
> (though Im sure someone else can provide a better solution that does not 
> use the formula plugin.)
>
> \define showSelectedCards(subfilter, finalLink:'')
> 
> 
> <$formula-vars counter="count([$subfilter$])-1">
> 
> <$list filter="[rangebutlast[]]" variable="iter">
> 
> <$formula-vars current="nth([$subfilter$], <> + 1)" 
> next="nth([$subfilter$], 
> <> + 2)">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="next" $value=<<
> next>>/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <$list filter="[rangelast[]]" variable="iter">
> <$formula-vars current="nth([$subfilter$], <> + 1)">
> <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> next=$finalLink$/>
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
> You use it like this:
>
> <$button>
> Quiz!
> <$macrocall $name="showSelectedCards" 
> subfilter="tag[Test]!sort[created]" finalLink='Home'/>
> 
>
> And can change the subfilter, and final link in the chain. 
>
> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:55:00 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> One important requirements to use TW for presentation or lecturing is to 
>> have tiddlers in order.
>> There are some ways. My question is here
>>
>> *How one can have a macro or widget to show at the bottom of tiddler a 
>> back/next link to move to previous or next tiddler.*
>>
>> The tiddler can be saved in a story.
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Annoying "Changes you made may not be saved." popup on leaving without editing

2018-04-26 Thread HansWobbe

Peter:

An impressive piece of work, indeed.

Hopefully I'll find some time this summer to learn more about both your 
technolony and the subject matter. 

Congratulations!

Best regards,
Hans

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Re: [tw5] Re: [INTRO] uni-link plugin

Hey Mario,

I'm not sure whats going on, but since I upgraded I've had some problems. 
Whenever I try to use an alias that has a capital letter, it no longer 
works, regardless of how the aliases field is defined. In other words:


   - tiddler My Friend has aliases: *Test*, from tiddler B I type: [[*Test*|?]] 
   - Does *NOT* work
   - tiddler My Friend has aliases: *Test*, from tiddler B I type: [[*test*|?]] 
   - works
   - tiddler My Friend has aliases: *test*, from tiddler B I type: [[*Test*|?]] 
   - Does *NOT* work
   - tiddler My Friend has aliases: *test*, from tiddler B I type: [[*test*|?]] 
   - works
   
Have I missed something?

Thanks,
Diego

On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 11:10:30 AM UTC-5, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> A property of most GUID generation algorithms is that they can generate a 
> stream of GUIDs that are guaranteed to be unique across time and space:
>
> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier
>
> When generated according to the standard methods, UUIDs are for practical 
> purposes unique, without depending for their uniqueness on a central 
> registration authority or coordination between the parties generating them, 
> unlike most other numbering schemes 
> . While the probability 
> that a UUID will be duplicated is not zero, it is close enough to zero to 
> be negligible.
>
>
> With such algorithms it may be reasonable to maintain a GUID in a tiddler 
> field other than the title, and to do without any uniqueness constraints 
> (instead, one would just need to follow some high level rules, such as that 
> a new GUID is generated for a clone of an existing tiddler).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> --
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>
> On 20 Apr 2018, at 16:16, PMario  wrote:
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 4:24:38 PM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mario,
>>
>> I am in total agreement on your approach to titles and have no problem 
>> with these myself.
>>
> What I am trying to say is can we make a field that containes a unique id 
>> stored in a field for any (not nessasarily every) tiddler that is 
>> independant of its name.
>>
>
> Yes.  tiddler titile.   once "alias" is a first class TW citizen. 
>
> We need something that works out of the box. The tiddler title is the only 
> thing atm, that fulfills the uniqueness requirement. So the tiddler title 
> is the only thing, that can be used as a UUID. period. 
>
> We just have to change the existing UI to deal with this. So we have to 
> make sure, once a user flips the switch to UUIDs the "subtitle" or 
> "aliases" field is filled with the tiddler title text. So the user can 
> start to use the tiddler title as the UUID. ... 
>
> I think UUIDs and human readable titles may even coexist. IMO it's 
> primarily a UI and editor problem atm. 
>
> I don't think a new uuid-field will be a real solution. 
>  
>
>> If such a field existed I am sure a minor addition to the uni-links 
>> plugin would allow tiddlers to be located via this permanent reference and 
>> render its caption, title or alias.
>>
>
> right. 
>
> -
>
> About using timestamp to create UUIDs .. This is a solved problem. We 
> shouldn't discuss it. 
>
> -mario
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[tw5] Re: Organizing Tiddlers for speech and lecturing

Hey Mohammad, 

I worked on something like this for my anwiki plugin. The following macro 
establishes a "linked list" of tiddlers, by setting the "next" field of a 
tiddler to the tiddler next in the chain. It uses Evan's formula plugin 
(though Im sure someone else can provide a better solution that does not 
use the formula plugin.)

\define showSelectedCards(subfilter, finalLink:'')


<$formula-vars counter="count([$subfilter$])-1">

<$list filter="[rangebutlast[]]" variable="iter">

<$formula-vars current="nth([$subfilter$], <> + 1)" 
next="nth([$subfilter$], 
<> + 2)">
<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> $field="next" $value=<<
next>>/>




<$list filter="[rangelast[]]" variable="iter">
<$formula-vars current="nth([$subfilter$], <> + 1)">
<$action-setfield $tiddler=<> next=$finalLink$/>



\end

You use it like this:

<$button>
Quiz!
<$macrocall $name="showSelectedCards" 
subfilter="tag[Test]!sort[created]" finalLink='Home'/>


And can change the subfilter, and final link in the chain. 

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:55:00 PM UTC-5, Mohammad wrote:
>
> One important requirements to use TW for presentation or lecturing is to 
> have tiddlers in order.
> There are some ways. My question is here
>
> *How one can have a macro or widget to show at the bottom of tiddler a 
> back/next link to move to previous or next tiddler.*
>
> The tiddler can be saved in a story.
>
>
> Best
>
>
>

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[tw5] Organizing Tiddlers for speech and lecturing

One important requirements to use TW for presentation or lecturing is to 
have tiddlers in order.
There are some ways. My question is here

*How one can have a macro or widget to show at the bottom of tiddler a 
back/next link to move to previous or next tiddler.*

The tiddler can be saved in a story.


Best


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[tw5] Re: A TiddlyWiki -- "... Knowledge About Tattooed Cultures."

Great job!

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 11:42:06 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> A simple, small but effective, TW that supports the writing of a term 
> paper on tattoos & culture.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/y9yrtgtk
>
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[tw5] Re: discussion: codemirror editor and improved indentation handling

2018-04-26 Thread Thomas Elmiger

You are right, Tony.

*Everywhere* was much exaggerated :–/

In every editor might be more correct (with and without code mirror). TW 
rendering seems to remove tabs from view mode.

Best regards,
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: (re-)Presenting: LeftBar - a menu type sidebar, on the left

2018-04-26 Thread Mat

LeftBar  has been updated. Major diff is to 
remove the supporting Toggle plugin (now deprecated) thanks to new checkbox 
functionality in 5.1.16.

<:-)

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[tw5] A TiddlyWiki -- "... Knowledge About Tattooed Cultures."

A simple, small but effective, TW that supports the writing of a term paper 
on tattoos & culture.

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[tw5] Re: A TiddlyWiki -- "Romance of the Three Kingdoms"

Thank you!

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 11:11:18 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> If you look through the Google Group for DesignWriteStudio (its public) 
> you can find them... https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/designwrite
>
> Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> How one can finds other presentation from this course?
>>
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[tw5] Re: A TiddlyWiki -- "Romance of the Three Kingdoms"

If you look through the Google Group for DesignWriteStudio (its public) you 
can find them... https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/designwrite

Mohammad wrote:
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> How one can finds other presentation from this course?
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[tw5] Re: A TiddlyWiki -- "Romance of the Three Kingdoms"

How one can finds other presentation from this course?


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>
> An elegant, simple, effective for purpose, TiddlyWiki from the 
> DesignWriteStudio course ...
>
> "Romance of the Three Kingdoms"
>
> http://scharem122562.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> If you want to comment than the author is at: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/designwrite/xCWSjnurgqw
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[tw5] A TiddlyWiki -- "The Three Kingdoms Period of China"

An elegant, simple, effective for purpose, TiddlyWiki from the 
DesignWriteStudio course ...

"The Three Kingdoms Period of China"

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Re: [tw5] Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

Ciao Jeremy

Footnote to last. 

The only issue I can see with "Tiddly" is it can evoke "diminutive" with 
possible semantic resonance of "under-powered / featured" (which it 
definitely isn't, rather the opposite). But, TBH, I'm not sure non-British 
speakers would have that possible chain of meanings. 

Even with that as a possible issue, "Tiddler" remains a very apposite 
descriptor of "fundamental fragments" ... In usage it also works 
semantically as an "efficient unit" ... for instance a Tiddler that does a 
list is highly efficient and direct. So the label "Tiddler" I think remains 
suitably flexible and fits well actual usage in building wholes from 
fragments using fragments that compound fragments. 

I doubt anyone could do better on "Tiddler."

Best wishes
Josiah

Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> d) If it’s not called TiddlyWiki then we’d probably want to rename 
>> “tiddler” too
>>
>
> In a discussion some months ago on Twitter it became clear to me you need 
> to be British to immediately "get" Tiddler ... Other English speakers, 
> Americans and Australians, for instance, don't have the immediate visceral 
> understanding of what it means. They simply don't label those small fish 
> like Brits do, or have an affective relation to them. 
>
> BUT I'm not sure "Tiddler" ever needs to go or even "Tiddly". 
>
> Why? Because they have semantic clout because they not been infiltrated by 
> other meanings so you can "Let the words mean what you want them to mean". 
> I think that is good. Most well-named software does that ... it creates a 
> semantic field of it own. And for Tiddly & Tiddler its done that, I think.
>

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[tw5] Re: ckeditor 4.9.2 blank edit mode

2018-04-26 Thread armlet

Hi BJ,

What did you do exactly to reload the tiddywiki?
I tried with Chrome from the browser refresh button as well as tiddlywiki 
refresh button. It still doesn't display tiddler's content or the toolbars, 
just blank below tiddler's tag bar and above Type dropdown in edit mode.
I forgot to mention that I am using TiddlyDesktop 0.0.9. It displays the 
same as with Chrome.

Thanks


On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 9:46:20 AM UTC-5, BJ wrote:
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> HI armlet,
> I just tried version 4.9.2.With chrome. I needed to reload the tiddlywiki 
> in order for CKE to work. I think that chrome was probably caching the 
> files and this caused a mixing of the old and new version.
>
> all the vest BJ
>
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 7:03:43 PM UTC+2, armlet wrote:
>>
>> I am using BJ's plugin ($:/plugins/bj/visualeditor 1.11.0) and local 
>> ckeditor library.
>> I just downloaded the latest ckeditor 4.9.2 today.
>> The text/x-htmlp type tiddlers display correctly in render mode. But it 
>> shows blank edit area in edit mode. The edit area is just plain blank, not 
>> even a 'loading ckeditor' message.
>> Any ideas how to fix it?
>> I have to revert back to the previous version 4.8 before having a 
>> solution.
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler width and sidebar position

2018-04-26 Thread Sjaak Adriaanse

Hi Mario,

Thanks a bunch! This solved my problem (and probably some I had not noticed 
yet). I imported my own content and some innocent-looking system tiddlers. 
I have to repair some appearance settings but hey, that's computer life.

Greetings,
Sjaak


On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 11:10:03 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Sjaak, 
>
> On Tuesday, April 24, 2018 at 1:46:22 PM UTC+2, Sjaak Adriaanse wrote:
>>
>> I updated from 5.0.12-beta to 5.1.15, 
>>
>
> BACKUP FIRST
>
> That's a big jump. ... I think your problem is, that you may have imported 
> some theme-tweaks to your new TW, that are not compatible with the existing 
> stable version. 
>
>
>- So you could download a new empty.html from tiddlywiki.com
>- Then drag and drop your work.html from the OS file-browser to the 
>open empty.html 
>- It will show you the import list 
>- Check this list and __only__ import your content to the new TW. 
>
>
> Especially have a look for tiddlers that* start with $:/* . 
> SystemTiddlers ... They may contain stuff that is not compatible anymore. 
>
> Also have a look at your plugins.  Some of them may be outdated and 
> may behave strange with the current version
>
> TW stable implemented a lot of functions into the core, that had been 
> plugins in beta. ... 
>
> Just some thoughts. 
>
> mario
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How can list tag pills of the current tiddler in a table of filtered tiddlers?

2018-04-26 Thread 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki

Try:



author
quote
tags

<$list filter="[tag[quote]sort[author]]">

<$view field="author"/>
<$view field="quote"/>
 
<$list filter="[all[current]tags[]!title[quote]]" 
template="$:/core/ui/TagTemplate"/>





HTH
-- Mark

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 7:15:16 AM UTC-7, Rene wrote:
>
> 
> 
> author
> quote
> tags
> 
> <$list filter="[tag[quote]sort[author]]">
> <$view field="author"/>
> <$view field="quote"/>
>  ??? 
> 
> 
> 
>
> Am Donnerstag, 26. April 2018 16:12:01 UTC+2 schrieb Rene:
>>
>> I have a filtered list of tiddlers with author and quote field, formatted 
>> as a table. In one column i would like to show the tag pills of the 
>> corresponding tiddler.
>> How can i do this?
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: ckeditor 4.9.2 blank edit mode

2018-04-26 Thread BJ

HI armlet,
I just tried version 4.9.2.With chrome. I needed to reload the tiddlywiki 
in order for CKE to work. I think that chrome was probably caching the 
files and this caused a mixing of the old and new version.

all the vest BJ

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 7:03:43 PM UTC+2, armlet wrote:
>
> I am using BJ's plugin ($:/plugins/bj/visualeditor 1.11.0) and local 
> ckeditor library.
> I just downloaded the latest ckeditor 4.9.2 today.
> The text/x-htmlp type tiddlers display correctly in render mode. But it 
> shows blank edit area in edit mode. The edit area is just plain blank, not 
> even a 'loading ckeditor' message.
> Any ideas how to fix it?
> I have to revert back to the previous version 4.8 before having a solution.
> Thanks in advance.
>

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[tw5] Re: How can list tag pills of the current tiddler in a table of filtered tiddlers?

2018-04-26 Thread Rene



author
quote
tags

<$list filter="[tag[quote]sort[author]]">
<$view field="author"/>
<$view field="quote"/>
 ??? 




Am Donnerstag, 26. April 2018 16:12:01 UTC+2 schrieb Rene:
>
> I have a filtered list of tiddlers with author and quote field, formatted 
> as a table. In one column i would like to show the tag pills of the 
> corresponding tiddler.
> How can i do this?
>

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Re: [tw5] Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

Ciao Jeremy

Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> The obvious characteristic of a wiki is that anyone can edit it. 
>

Yeah. But that applies to a vast realm of stuff that are not thought of as 
"wikis" at all. I mean, a lot of better WordPress elaborations do that. And 
include markup systems & so on. 

> However, I’ve always thought that more interesting characteristic of wikis 
> at their best is the way that they elevate linking to be part of the 
> punctuation of writing. In other words, features like links, recent changes 
> lists, orphan lists, missing lists, etc.
>

Right. Its a user-needs driven writing environment that creates both 
content, and to an extent, structure.  

And that is one point where I think the contrast with TW starts. Because TW 
goes so far with that I'm really not convinced it shares anything much more 
than rudimentary markup with the others.

This sounds like a version of the perennial question “Should we rename 
> TiddlyWiki?”. My take on that is:
>
> a) I’d probably call the next backwards-incompatible version of TiddlyWiki 
> something else
>
b) In technical terms, renaming TiddlyWiki5 could be a monster undertaking 
> depending on how far one went. The name “TiddlyWiki” is riddled through the 
> code and the user interface
>

Right.

I'm not really suggesting "Change its name" for TW5. I think that would a 
complex nightmare that would just likely lead to confusion. Not a good idea.

Rather, I'm thinking into ways to describe it without falling into the 
existing semantics & meanings of "Wiki" now. Ways that get what it IS more 
accurately. 

d) If it’s not called TiddlyWiki then we’d probably want to rename 
> “tiddler” too
>

In a discussion some months ago on Twitter it became clear to me you need 
to be British to immediately "get" Tiddler ... Other English speakers, 
Americans and Australians, for instance, don't have the immediate visceral 
understanding of what it means. They simply don't label those small fish 
like Brits do, or have an affective relation to them. 

BUT I'm not sure "Tiddler" ever needs to go or even "Tiddly". 

Why? Because they have semantic clout because they not been infiltrated by 
other meanings so you can "Let the words mean what you want them to mean". 
I think that is good. Most well-named software does that ... it creates a 
semantic field of it own. And for Tiddly & Tiddler its done that, I think.

Rather, I think "Wiki" has become seriously loaded. And, truthfully, I 
don't think most of the extant, known, Wiki systems are much like TW once 
you get beyond markup. (I'm not forgetting http://twiki.org/ -- but even 
that I think is not what most potential end users think a wiki is either.)

Best wishes
Josiah 

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[tw5] How can list tag pills of the current tiddler in a table of filtered tiddlers?

2018-04-26 Thread Rene

I have a filtered list of tiddlers with author and quote field, formatted 
as a table. In one column i would like to show the tag pills of the 
corresponding tiddler.
How can i do this?

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[tw5] Re: Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

Ste, Mark S. & TonyM

Mark says...
"When referring to it in the company of adults, I tend to refer to "TW"
(tee-double-you) or "TW technology".

TonyM wrote...
... I would think a word like Chameleon combined with a suitable IT
related word like info-chameleon cloud-chameleon.

Exactly. Using some VAGUE indeterminate, though directed looking term, does
have merit in that then our thing has a unique "label" that needs filling
in. Its can be motivating to find out.

I believe this is better than being ABDUCTED semantically into probably
not-so-relevant felt-meanings, the upfront resonance of "Wiki", in the
longform (TiddlyWiki), unfortunately evokes all sorts of stuff.

Its perhaps harder for some folk here to understand that "Wiki"
semantically for, I think, most people, is a "codswallop" word-bucket.
Since its not immediately obvious what it means the mind will fill in the
semantic void with Julian Assange & Wikipedia which they are far more
likely to know about.

I hope I'm not coming over as too pedantic. But the "implicit implying of
meaning" of Names & Logos in a world without other information is
significant.

In any case, I frankly can't see how much of the functionality of TW you
are using everyday is anything like other extant "Wiki" systems. So part of
my point was to try better articulate how it is NOT like other Wiki systems
to better tease out more accurate descriptions.

Accurate vagueness is, IMO, better than inaccurate false concretion. (<--
pompous sentence of the day. But in the ball-park.)

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

2018-04-26 Thread Ste Wilson

Mat says... 
"When referring to it in the company of adults, I tend to refer to "TW" 
(tee-double-you) or "TW technology". Then the addressee feels sheepish because 
they don't know what "TW" refers to. 

:D Brilliant! That's the one. TW Technology. Someone update the powered by 
tiddlywiki banner! 

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[tw5] Re: Please explain to me why TiddlyWiki is a "Wiki"?

2018-04-26 Thread PMario

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:43:57 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
... 

> In some ways that is what tiddlyWiki does, it is a Wiki, the best wiki, 
> but it is much more.
>

So we name it BestWiki. So if someone searches for the "best wiki" software 
they will find it for sure :)

-m

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[tw5] Re: Customice font sice of sidebar

2018-04-26 Thread Xabriña

Hello TonyM!

I refer for example to the "Recent" tab or to a TOC created by me in another 
tab.

Thank you.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

2018-04-26 Thread Maarten

hi Jeremy,

I'm running 5.1.16 now.

On the NPM site (https://www.npmjs.com/package/tiddlywiki) I found a lot of 
documentation. 

The upgrade with "npm update -g tiddlywiki" (execute in /usr/bin) went well 
and "tiddlywiki --version" reported 5.1.16 but the site stilll said 5.1.15. 
But I forgot to restart the services. 


thanks

On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 10:40:33 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Maarten
>
>
> how can I update a TW running with Node.JS?
>
>
> There are some instructions here:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Upgrading%20TiddlyWiki%20on%20Node.js
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> Maarten
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 25, 2018 at 7:54:52 PM UTC+2, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>>
>> I’m delighted to announce the long-awaited release of v5.1.16 of 
>> TiddlyWiki.
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>>
>> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>>
>> There are too many new features to mention; some of the highlights 
>> include:
>>
>> * “Visual diffs” in the edit preview pane and the import listing
>> * A new “range” widget for creating sliders
>> * Simplified page scrolling behaviour: navigating to a tiddler now 
>> scrolls the top of the tiddler to the top of the viewport
>> * Ability to create buttons that copy text to the clipboard
>> * Added support for comparison operators to the RevealWidget
>> * Added support for StartupActions to execute action widgets at startup
>> * A new "rotate left" button for the bitmap editor toolbar
>> * A major update to the CodeMirror plugin
>> * A new “DynaView” plugin for dynamic interactive scroll and zoom effects
>> * Improved Text-Slicer Plugin with customisable JSON rules
>> * Updated KaTeX Plugin to latest v0.9.0
>> * New Slovenian and Português (Brasil) translations, and improved Dutch, 
>> French, German and Chinese translations
>> * A new alphanumeric sorting operator that avoids having to use numbers 
>> like 456 to ensure proper sorting
>> * Tweaked, more readable font settings
>>
>> Full details of all the changes can be found in the release note:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Releases
>>
>> My sincere thanks to the many people who have contributed to this 
>> substantial release:
>>
>>- alexhough
>>- anavarre
>>- BramChen
>>- BurningTreeC
>>- diego898
>>- flibbles
>>- furicle
>>- gernert
>>- ibnishak
>>- inmysocks
>>- Marxsal
>>- metebalci
>>- mklauber
>>- pmario
>>- Skeeve
>>- TheDiveO
>>- tobibeer
>>- twMat
>>- xcazin
>>
>> As usual, feedback and questions are welcome,
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
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[tw5] Re: Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

2018-04-26 Thread Jed Carty

You need to give more context than this. Otherwise the most specific answer 
possible is 'Probably with css'.

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[tw5] Re: Story to defaultTiddlers (Pull Request?)

2018-04-26 Thread Jed Carty

I made a quick test of using tiddlywiki as an ebook viewer than does some 
similar things to what your button does.

https://ooktech.com/jed/ExampleWikis/TiddlyBook/

It isn't really laid out well but it has macros that set the story list to 
a list of tiddlers in order based on the book definitions. You could 
probably pull out pieces of it to make a more flexible version of the 
button.

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Re: [tw5] Re: Link to tidier from modal?

2018-04-26 Thread Evgeniy Degtyar

Thank you! It's what I need.

2018-04-26 11:04 GMT+03:00 BurningTreeC :

> Hi, I believe that the modal is missing the informations from the
> <$navigator> widget
>
> Basically, to interact with the story river, the template for the modal
> needs something like this on top:
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>
> ... Modal Content ...
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Re: [tw5] Re: Story to defaultTiddlers (Pull Request?)

2018-04-26 Thread PMario

On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 1:35:12 AM UTC+2, Jan wrote:
>
> i would not mind having simply "[list[$:/StoryList]]"  as a filter to set 
> the default Tiddlers.  After all you can still control them manually 
> afterwards.
>

That would be an option.  

For some of my TWs I use [tag[default]]  in the defaultTiddlers. So 
whenever I think a tiddler should show up at the next start I tag it 
default. 

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I think a button, that "hardcodes" a special set of tiddlers is not really 
convenient. I would like to have a functionality, that is able to do what 
you suggested in a more flexible way. 

I would like, if the existing "retain story ordering" button would show a 
list of different possibilities. ... Including yours. 
I'm thinking about a selector similar to the "filtered search" dropdown, 
but with more information for new users. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Stupid question: How can I embed a TW in a static page without getting a scrollbar

2018-04-26 Thread Peter Merel

Iframes and objects and embed tags - oh my! And client side includes too 
... but no combination of cute tricks seems to get rid of the extra 
scrollbar I get when I embed the TW in a static page.

I'm sure that I'm overlooking something obvious - how do you do it?

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Annoying "Changes you made may not be saved." popup on leaving without editing

2018-04-26 Thread Peter Merel

Thanks for the kind words Eneko. I'm just getting around to updating it 
now. 

And many thanks Jeremy for the tip - it works fine!

On Sunday, 24 September 2017 01:08:45 UTC+10, Eneko Gotzon wrote:
>
> What a wonderful piece of work Peter… 
>
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Peter Merel  > wrote:
>
>> Dear tiddlyfolks,
>>
>> I have a public tiddlywiki up at http://xscale.wiki . Public editing is 
>> unimportant because the community coordinates and versions its edits on 
>> github as you'd naturally expect.
>>
>> I know that's not how most people save edits but I confess for the life 
>> of me I don't understand why not. Git integration ought to be a first 
>> priority for tiddlywiki imho 
>>
>> But that's not what this is about. When someone visits the site and then 
>> navigates away they invariably get a popup "Do you want to leave this site? 
>> Changes you made may not be saved." even though they've made no changes.
>>
>> I've had a few complaints about it and don't see a setting to fix it. I 
>> tried to set Autosave to No, and that didn't help. And I tried the 
>> $:/config/SyncFilter 
>> trick Jeremy put up a couple years ago and that had no effect either. Any 
>> ideas?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
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[tw5] Re: TopStoryView plugon with no icon!

Yes, I expected to have every tiddler clicked on, jump to the top of 
viewpoint.
as you said, the small length tiddlers specially at the bottom of story 
river does not behave as I expected.

Thank you Mat.



On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 12:08:28 PM UTC+4:30, Mat wrote:
>
> It is automatic AFAICT. But a difference between the plugin and 5.1.16 is 
> that the plugin also *inserts empty space* below the bottom-most tiddler 
> so that also bottom-most tiddlers align with the viewport top edge. While 
> I'd wish for this behaviour also in 5.1.16 so that really *every* tiddler 
> clicked on aligns with top, this is unfortunately not the case. Is it this 
> issue you're having? If you really think this is important then I guess 
> you'll still have to use the plugin. 
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: Link to tidier from modal?

2018-04-26 Thread BurningTreeC

Hi, I believe that the modal is missing the informations from the 
<$navigator> widget

Basically, to interact with the story river, the template for the modal 
needs something like this on top:

<$navigator story="$:/StoryList" history="HistoryList">

... Modal Content ...




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[tw5] Re: Link to tidier from modal?

2018-04-26 Thread Evgeniy Degtyar

Just trying to understand how to make it work too. Still no options?

суббота, 9 сентября 2017 г., 4:54:44 UTC+3 пользователь Magnus написал:
>
> I have tried different ways of adding the tiddler to be opened to 
> the $:/StoryList and closing the modal but to no avail. Anyone know if it 
> would be possible to make a macro to achieve this?
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[tw5] Re: TopStoryView plugon with no icon!

2018-04-26 Thread Mat

It is automatic AFAICT. But a difference between the plugin and 5.1.16 is 
that the plugin also *inserts empty space* below the bottom-most tiddler so 
that also bottom-most tiddlers align with the viewport top edge. While I'd 
wish for this behaviour also in 5.1.16 so that really *every* tiddler 
clicked on aligns with top, this is unfortunately not the case. Is it this 
issue you're having? If you really think this is important then I guess 
you'll still have to use the plugin. 

<:-)

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[tw5] The way to add shortcuts for most used actions.

2018-04-26 Thread Evgeniy Degtyar

Hi. I live TiddlyWiki. Also I like to make most actions without using 
mouse. Only keyboard. Only hardcore.

Is there the way to use shortcuts for hiding/showing sidebar, create new 
tiddler or go to change mode in current tiddler?
Also shortcut which open sidebar and focus to search field will be great.

Right now I only see the way to use greasemonkey script for such things. 
But it'll be be great if there is a way to use shortcuts natively in 
TiddlyWiki.

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Re: [tw5] Announcing TiddlyWiki v5.1.16

2018-04-26 Thread Enneco Gotzon

It is wonderful how all you conceive and develop programs to manage
information.

Thank you very much.

On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 7:54 PM, Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> I’m delighted to announce the long-awaited release of v5.1.16 of
> TiddlyWiki.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
>
> Remember to keep careful backups before upgrading existing 5.x.x wikis at:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/upgrade.html
>
> There are too many new features to mention; some of the highlights include:
>
> * “Visual diffs” in the edit preview pane and the import listing
> * A new “range” widget for creating sliders
> * Simplified page scrolling behaviour: navigating to a tiddler now scrolls
> the top of the tiddler to the top of the viewport
> * Ability to create buttons that copy text to the clipboard
> * Added support for comparison operators to the RevealWidget
> * Added support for StartupActions to execute action widgets at startup
> * A new "rotate left" button for the bitmap editor toolbar
> * A major update to the CodeMirror plugin
> * A new “DynaView” plugin for dynamic interactive scroll and zoom effects
> * Improved Text-Slicer Plugin with customisable JSON rules
> * Updated KaTeX Plugin to latest v0.9.0
> * New Slovenian and Português (Brasil) translations, and improved Dutch,
> French, German and Chinese translations
> * A new alphanumeric sorting operator that avoids having to use numbers
> like 456 to ensure proper sorting
> * Tweaked, more readable font settings
>
> Full details of all the changes can be found in the release note:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Releases
>
> My sincere thanks to the many people who have contributed to this
> substantial release:
>
>- alexhough
>- anavarre
>- BramChen
>- BurningTreeC
>- diego898
>- flibbles
>- furicle
>- gernert
>- ibnishak
>- inmysocks
>- Marxsal
>- metebalci
>- mklauber
>- pmario
>- Skeeve
>- TheDiveO
>- tobibeer
>- twMat
>- xcazin
>
> As usual, feedback and questions are welcome,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
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