date:20180625

Mohammad,

To start you on your journey, use a tag pill for A 
or https://tiddlywiki.com/#list-links-draggable%20Macro to order the 
tagging tiddler and create the list field with the subtiddlers listed in it.

Now you can use the various order and listops operators to step through the 
tiddlers in the list field.

I have not done this yet, but will soon as I need to learn this aspect.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 2:48:21 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Assume there is a tiddler called A.
> And there are different number of sub-tiddlers i.e. tiddlers tagged with A
>
> So there is a structure like
>
>   -- A
> |- S01
> |- S02
> |- S03
> |- S04
> |-...
>
>
> All Sxx tiddlers are tagged with A. I call A the parent tiddler and Sxx 
> the subtiddlers (child)
>
> I want to have a button in parent tiddler to be clicked and transclude 
> (show only the text) of subtiddlers in turn, i.e by each button click one 
> subtiddler is shown.
>
>
> It would be great if the code can be wrapped into a macro to be used 
> everywhere for other set (like B--(sub01, sub02, ...)
>
>
> /Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Seeking Wiki-Lifeloggers

2018-06-25 Thread Mohammad

Great wiki. I enjoyed the way you used for tiddlers with lengthy text and 
how the tiddler toolbar sticks at the top when you browse to bottom.
/Mohammad


On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 5:26:58 AM UTC+4:30, h0p3 wrote:
>
> Hello! I'm trying to find people engaged in self-reflective, introspective 
> lifelogging through personal wikis. I'd like to get to know you, understand 
> your contemplative methodology, and attempt to learn from you about how to 
> wisely use this amazing wiki tool.
>
> This is my personal wiki: https://philosopher.life/. Desktop highly 
> recommended; it's about ~14mb in size. 
>
> Some of you are going to think "₩Һ혢ʈ ╤ћᘓ 픽ᵁʗꗪ" when you see my wiki. For 
> some, my wiki may feel like Timecube or TempleOS. I apologize for wasting 
> your time. Some of you, however, may be engaged in a similar process. I'd 
> like to connect with you folks! You can also find my contact information on 
> the wiki.
>

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[tw5] Tiddler + subtiddler and a Button

2018-06-25 Thread Mohammad

Assume there is a tiddler called A.
And there are different number of sub-tiddlers i.e. tiddlers tagged with A

So there is a structure like

  -- A
|- S01
|- S02
|- S03
|- S04
|-...
   

All Sxx tiddlers are tagged with A. I call A the parent tiddler and Sxx the 
subtiddlers (child)

I want to have a button in parent tiddler to be clicked and transclude 
(show only the text) of subtiddlers in turn, i.e by each button click one 
subtiddler is shown.


It would be great if the code can be wrapped into a macro to be used 
everywhere for other set (like B--(sub01, sub02, ...)


/Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

Thanks Shay,

I would find it easier to address the problems you raise with tiddlyWiki 
"couldn't use it for because it's rather static, requires revisions, and 
doesn't work well on phone " which for my uses, seems untrue.

Many conversations proceed ours about alternative markup/mark down, 
parsing, perhaps search and replace or the "text slicer Plugin" can 
sometimes solve this so let us hope someone has followed your path before.

I know it is another step but I do favour a single tool (not tiddlyWiki) 
that can translate any format into any other including tiddlywiki and back 
rather that catering for every format in TiddlyWiki, though plugins would 
be acceptable it would only convert a to b and b to a.

Best of luck
Tony


On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 12:53:59 PM UTC+10, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> OK, let me make an attempt at explaining better... slightly. 
>
> Org-mode works within Emacs. It's hard to fully explain Org-mode because 
> it has many, many features. But, for the needs of converting to .tid files, 
> we don't need even half of it's features. 
>
> Org-mode in its' basic for (an .org file) would look something like this: 
>
> * Header one
> ** Header two
> *** Header three
>
> [[url][link]] 
>
> /italics/
>
> *bold*
>
> Notice how close this already is to TW. 
>
> The more problematic parts would be, maybe, adding tags which in Org Modes 
> are added to header only in the form of :tag: (it's all text-based). It 
> will be something very very simple, that switches * for !, and can 
> "translate" links to what I described above. Org-mode does much much more, 
> but for the purposes of writing (for me anyway) this is enough. The trick 
> would be then, to find all the "bullet points" in TW and change them to 
> headers; find the links and change the to TW format. 
>
> I tried to convert from Org-mode to markdown 
>  and from markdown 
> to TW which kinda works... but it looks like a weird way to get at it. 
> There's tiddlywiki-mode, which I linked above. This should "plug into" 
> Emacs, and allow to edit .tid files... just not sure how. Was hoping 
> someone here would know. 
>
> Hope this sheds more light. Org-mode (imo) makes a lot of sense for 
> writing, and for those of us who already use TW on a regular basis, I think 
> there's an obvious match here -- TW is good to present and conserve 
> information long term, Org-mode is the dynamic, quick task-to-do and 
> thought to capture thing I always needed from TW but couldn't use it for 
> because it's rather static, requires revisions, and doesn't work well on 
> phone (this is my opinion of course). The both complete each other rather 
> well. 
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 9:33:33 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Shay,
>>
>> Your question depends on someone knowing the emacs and org-mode 
>> references you have made (I do not), and someone may very well know what 
>> you are talking about, however if you opened this question up to include 
>> examples, such that people with extensive tiddlywiki but not emacs org 
>> experience could understand what may be needed, you will most likely get 
>> more answers and sooner.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 11:21:30 AM UTC+10, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm looking around and I see a lot of Emacs references, a few less (but 
>>> still a lot) Org-Mode references, but I don't see something that answers 
>>> the question itself (yet): is there a way to export from Org-mode to TW. 
>>>
>>> I started playing around with Org-mode recently and the writing 
>>> experience is great. I would really like to be able to export to TW (tid) 
>>> format. The closet I saw was this 
>>>  on 
>>> tiddlywiki.com but I'm not sure how to actually use it. It doesn't 
>>> font-lock (highlight) anything in the syntax really. Besides, I would 
>>> *really 
>>> *like to be able to write in Org-mode, if it exists. 
>>>
>>> So... anyone here familiar with this? Anyone here uses Org to write and 
>>> work with TW at the same time? 
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Catalogue of goto off-the-shelf Wikis?

2018-06-25 Thread Amit Ahire

Hello, 

I have been big fan tiddlywiki for some time (no big news there) - But I 
still feel that there is a big learning curve and ppl get lost in 
customizing their own solution after the learning the basic. (Yes I guess I 
am talking about myself...)

I keep seeing other ppl who have used TW5 to do wonderful things like 
websites, journals online, blogs etc 

I feel that we as a community can make these sites/templates available 
online to people who would like "off-the-shelf" solutions. With the list of 
plugins that the TW5 is enabled with and if/any custom tools available in 
the wiki.A catalogue of such wikis in one place would be very beneficial 
for ppl who - like some particular feature or site that they come across 
web.

Just a thought. And yes I am aware that you could just download the wiki 
you like and then use it. I am talking about a site with different TW5 
solutions for different needs.

Thanks

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[tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

Comment #2

The problem with orgmode was that it was too easy for one note to "leak" 
into the next with just a single keystroke. The Android app didn't work or 
look anything like the real orgmode, and the synchronization was 
unreliable.  And, like all emacs productions, you needed to memorize a 
really arcane series of key strokes for most everything. Getting it set up 
on different platforms could be time-consuming, and it was tricky to get it 
to display images. It did have a lot of features and robust user base.

-- Mark

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:39:11 PM UTC-7, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Orgmode has tags ... and it has headers that have relationships to each 
> other that would ordinarily be represented also by tags.
>
> If I recall, you can export orgmode to html. Then you could use the slicer 
> edition to cut the html up into tiddlers. Of course, that wouldn't give you 
> any of the semantic tags -- just the structural ones.
>
> -- Mark
>
>

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[tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

Orgmode has tags ... and it has headers that have relationships to each 
other that would ordinarily be represented also by tags.

If I recall, you can export orgmode to html. Then you could use the slicer 
edition to cut the html up into tiddlers. Of course, that wouldn't give you 
any of the semantic tags -- just the structural ones.

-- Mark

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 6:21:30 PM UTC-7, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> I'm looking around and I see a lot of Emacs references, a few less (but 
> still a lot) Org-Mode references, but I don't see something that answers 
> the question itself (yet): is there a way to export from Org-mode to TW. 
>
> I started playing around with Org-mode recently and the writing experience 
> is great. I would really like to be able to export to TW (tid) format. The 
> closet I saw was this 
>  on 
> tiddlywiki.com but I'm not sure how to actually use it. It doesn't 
> font-lock (highlight) anything in the syntax really. Besides, I would *really 
> *like to be able to write in Org-mode, if it exists. 
>
> So... anyone here familiar with this? Anyone here uses Org to write and 
> work with TW at the same time? 
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to debug my unload-able Wiki

Chrome reports a subtly different message

Internal JavaScript Error
Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki 
by refreshing your browser
Uncaught RangeError: Maximum call stack size exceeded

And more error information

TiddlyWiki5.html:63099 Uncaught SyntaxError: Invalid regular expression: 
/~?\$:\/[A-Za-z0-9À-ÖØ-Þß-öø-ÿŐŰőű/._-]+/: Stack overflow
$tw.utils.error @ TiddlyWiki5.html:63099
window.onerror @ TiddlyWiki5.html:63126
error (async)
_boot @ TiddlyWiki5.html:63125
(anonymous) @ TiddlyWiki5.html:65199


$tw.utils.each @ TiddlyWiki5.html:63036
Widget.renderChildren @ $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369
VarsWidget.render @ $:/core/modules/widgets/vars.js:44
(anonymous) @ $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370

Hmm


On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 1:03:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> In the attachment we can see what leads into the loop, and the red line I 
> added shows what then occurs to infinity/ the too much recursion limit.
>
> What would be using those js functions?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 12:47:40 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> In side the more information I found this occuring multiple times
>>
>> http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
>> Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
>> MacroCallWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/macrocall.js:34:2 
>> Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3 
>> _boot/$tw.utils.each
>> http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
>> Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
>> VarsWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/vars.js:44:2 
>> Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3 
>> _boot/$tw.utils.each
>> http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
>> Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
>> MacroCallWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/macrocall.js:34:2 
>> Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3 
>> _boot/$tw.utils.each
>> http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
>> Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
>> VarsWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/vars.js:44:2 
>> Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 12:14:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> I did that BJ,
>>>
>>> And I am clueless.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> This occurs in safemode and on other tiddlers in the address bar.
>>>
>>>
>>> I expect it is something I did in a recent tiddler, but have no way I 
>>> can find to review the let tiddlers edited from the text editor (yet).
>>>
>>>
>>> this is a real pain
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:38:19 PM UTC+10, BJ wrote:

 if you load your broke tw, then right click and select 'inspect 
 element' you might get a clue

 On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:39:23 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Post script:
>>
>
> On refresh a stray pre is appearing on the Browser address 
> bar TiddlyWiki5.html#%2Fpre> and in my side bar /pre> 
> 
>  
>  On attempting to import all the broken wikis tiddlers into a new 
> empty tiddler in only attempts to import a subset of core tiddlers and no 
> more.. Ie even the import facility may be breaking.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to debug my unload-able Wiki

In the attachment we can see what leads into the loop, and the red line I 
added shows what then occurs to infinity/ the too much recursion limit.

What would be using those js functions?

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 12:47:40 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> In side the more information I found this occuring multiple times
>
> http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
> Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
> MacroCallWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/macrocall.js:34:2 
> Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3 
> _boot/$tw.utils.each
> http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
> Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
> VarsWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/vars.js:44:2 
> Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3 
> _boot/$tw.utils.each
> http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
> Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
> MacroCallWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/macrocall.js:34:2 
> Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3 
> _boot/$tw.utils.each
> http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
> Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
> VarsWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/vars.js:44:2 
> Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 12:14:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> I did that BJ,
>>
>> And I am clueless.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> This occurs in safemode and on other tiddlers in the address bar.
>>
>>
>> I expect it is something I did in a recent tiddler, but have no way I can 
>> find to review the let tiddlers edited from the text editor (yet).
>>
>>
>> this is a real pain
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:38:19 PM UTC+10, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> if you load your broke tw, then right click and select 'inspect element' 
>>> you might get a clue
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:39:23 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:

 Post script:
>

 On refresh a stray pre is appearing on the Browser address 
 bar TiddlyWiki5.html#%2Fpre> and in my side bar /pre> 
 
  
  On attempting to import all the broken wikis tiddlers into a new empty 
 tiddler in only attempts to import a subset of core tiddlers and no more.. 
 Ie even the import facility may be breaking.



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[tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

OK, let me make an attempt at explaining better... slightly. 

Org-mode works within Emacs. It's hard to fully explain Org-mode because it 
has many, many features. But, for the needs of converting to .tid files, we 
don't need even half of it's features. 

Org-mode in its' basic for (an .org file) would look something like this: 

* Header one
** Header two
*** Header three

[[url][link]] 

/italics/

*bold*

Notice how close this already is to TW. 

The more problematic parts would be, maybe, adding tags which in Org Modes 
are added to header only in the form of :tag: (it's all text-based). It 
will be something very very simple, that switches * for !, and can 
"translate" links to what I described above. Org-mode does much much more, 
but for the purposes of writing (for me anyway) this is enough. The trick 
would be then, to find all the "bullet points" in TW and change them to 
headers; find the links and change the to TW format. 

I tried to convert from Org-mode to markdown 
 and from markdown to 
TW which kinda works... but it looks like a weird way to get at it. There's 
tiddlywiki-mode, which I linked above. This should "plug into" Emacs, and 
allow to edit .tid files... just not sure how. Was hoping someone here 
would know. 

Hope this sheds more light. Org-mode (imo) makes a lot of sense for 
writing, and for those of us who already use TW on a regular basis, I think 
there's an obvious match here -- TW is good to present and conserve 
information long term, Org-mode is the dynamic, quick task-to-do and 
thought to capture thing I always needed from TW but couldn't use it for 
because it's rather static, requires revisions, and doesn't work well on 
phone (this is my opinion of course). The both complete each other rather 
well. 

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 9:33:33 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> Shay,
>
> Your question depends on someone knowing the emacs and org-mode references 
> you have made (I do not), and someone may very well know what you are 
> talking about, however if you opened this question up to include examples, 
> such that people with extensive tiddlywiki but not emacs org experience 
> could understand what may be needed, you will most likely get more answers 
> and sooner.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 11:21:30 AM UTC+10, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking around and I see a lot of Emacs references, a few less (but 
>> still a lot) Org-Mode references, but I don't see something that answers 
>> the question itself (yet): is there a way to export from Org-mode to TW. 
>>
>> I started playing around with Org-mode recently and the writing 
>> experience is great. I would really like to be able to export to TW (tid) 
>> format. The closet I saw was this 
>>  on 
>> tiddlywiki.com but I'm not sure how to actually use it. It doesn't 
>> font-lock (highlight) anything in the syntax really. Besides, I would 
>> *really 
>> *like to be able to write in Org-mode, if it exists. 
>>
>> So... anyone here familiar with this? Anyone here uses Org to write and 
>> work with TW at the same time? 
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: How to debug my unload-able Wiki

Arlen,

I am confident because "I have removed an Item in default tiddlers (using a 
text editor removed a title only), removed a recent rawmarkup tag to no 
effect" and other tags -- not removed a whole tiddler.

I appear to have located the last hour any tiddler was edited 2018062207 so 
I can review those, but their are many.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 12:36:24 PM UTC+10, Arlen Beiler wrote:
>
> That being said, it is probably not lost, especially if the file size is 
> about the same. It looks like there is a pre tag somewhere that is messing 
> things up. But I can't think where it would be. You said you manually 
> removed a tiddler, which is where pre tags are used. Are you sure you 
> removed it correctly?
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:26 AM @TiddlyTweeter  > wrote:
>
>> Grandpa speaking ... erm ... didn't you backup?
>>
>> On Tuesday, 26 June 2018 04:14:36 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> I did that BJ,
>>>
>>> And I am clueless.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> This occurs in safemode and on other tiddlers in the address bar.
>>>
>>>
>>> I expect it is something I did in a recent tiddler, but have no way I 
>>> can find to review the let tiddlers edited from the text editor (yet).
>>>
>>>
>>> this is a real pain
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:38:19 PM UTC+10, BJ wrote:

 if you load your broke tw, then right click and select 'inspect 
 element' you might get a clue

 On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:39:23 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Post script:
>>
>
> On refresh a stray pre is appearing on the Browser address 
> bar TiddlyWiki5.html#%2Fpre> and in my side bar /pre> 
> 
>  
>  On attempting to import all the broken wikis tiddlers into a new 
> empty tiddler in only attempts to import a subset of core tiddlers and no 
> more.. Ie even the import facility may be breaking.
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[tw5] Re: How to debug my unload-able Wiki

In side the more information I found this occuring multiple times

http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
MacroCallWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/macrocall.js:34:2 
Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3 
_boot/$tw.utils.each
http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
VarsWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/vars.js:44:2 
Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3 
_boot/$tw.utils.each
http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
MacroCallWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/macrocall.js:34:2 
Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3 
_boot/$tw.utils.each
http://127.0.0.1:8088/Instances/TiddlyWiki5.html:63036:12
Widget.prototype.renderChildren $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:369:2 
VarsWidget.prototype.render $:/core/modules/widgets/vars.js:44:2 
Widget.prototype.renderChildren/< $:/core/modules/widgets/widget.js:370:3


On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 12:14:36 PM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> I did that BJ,
>
> And I am clueless.
>
>
> 
>
> This occurs in safemode and on other tiddlers in the address bar.
>
>
> I expect it is something I did in a recent tiddler, but have no way I can 
> find to review the let tiddlers edited from the text editor (yet).
>
>
> this is a real pain
>
>
> Regards
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:38:19 PM UTC+10, BJ wrote:
>>
>> if you load your broke tw, then right click and select 'inspect element' 
>> you might get a clue
>>
>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:39:23 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Post script:

>>>
>>> On refresh a stray pre is appearing on the Browser address 
>>> bar TiddlyWiki5.html#%2Fpre> and in my side bar /pre> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  On attempting to import all the broken wikis tiddlers into a new empty 
>>> tiddler in only attempts to import a subset of core tiddlers and no more.. 
>>> Ie even the import facility may be breaking.
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: How to debug my unload-able Wiki

I thought backups were occuring under tiddlyserver but when I upgraded and 
created a new folder I did not also create the backups folder. At least this is 
what I thought happened. Further I discoverd my synology cloud station was not 
syncing the folders either.

Arggh

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Re: [tw5] Re: How to debug my unload-able Wiki

2018-06-25 Thread Arlen Beiler

That being said, it is probably not lost, especially if the file size is
about the same. It looks like there is a pre tag somewhere that is messing
things up. But I can't think where it would be. You said you manually
removed a tiddler, which is where pre tags are used. Are you sure you
removed it correctly?

On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:26 AM @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Grandpa speaking ... erm ... didn't you backup?
>
> On Tuesday, 26 June 2018 04:14:36 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> I did that BJ,
>>
>> And I am clueless.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> This occurs in safemode and on other tiddlers in the address bar.
>>
>>
>> I expect it is something I did in a recent tiddler, but have no way I can
>> find to review the let tiddlers edited from the text editor (yet).
>>
>>
>> this is a real pain
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:38:19 PM UTC+10, BJ wrote:
>>>
>>> if you load your broke tw, then right click and select 'inspect element'
>>> you might get a clue
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:39:23 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:

 Post script:
>

 On refresh a stray pre is appearing on the Browser address
 bar TiddlyWiki5.html#%2Fpre> and in my side bar /pre>
 

  On attempting to import all the broken wikis tiddlers into a new empty
 tiddler in only attempts to import a subset of core tiddlers and no more..
 Ie even the import facility may be breaking.

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[tw5] Re: How to debug my unload-able Wiki

Grandpa speaking ... erm ... didn't you backup?

On Tuesday, 26 June 2018 04:14:36 UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> I did that BJ,
>
> And I am clueless.
>
>
> 
>
> This occurs in safemode and on other tiddlers in the address bar.
>
>
> I expect it is something I did in a recent tiddler, but have no way I can 
> find to review the let tiddlers edited from the text editor (yet).
>
>
> this is a real pain
>
>
> Regards
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:38:19 PM UTC+10, BJ wrote:
>>
>> if you load your broke tw, then right click and select 'inspect element' 
>> you might get a clue
>>
>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:39:23 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Post script:

>>>
>>> On refresh a stray pre is appearing on the Browser address 
>>> bar TiddlyWiki5.html#%2Fpre> and in my side bar /pre> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>  On attempting to import all the broken wikis tiddlers into a new empty 
>>> tiddler in only attempts to import a subset of core tiddlers and no more.. 
>>> Ie even the import facility may be breaking.
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: How to debug my unload-able Wiki

I did that BJ,

And I am clueless.



This occurs in safemode and on other tiddlers in the address bar.


I expect it is something I did in a recent tiddler, but have no way I can 
find to review the let tiddlers edited from the text editor (yet).


this is a real pain


Regards

Tony





On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:38:19 PM UTC+10, BJ wrote:
>
> if you load your broke tw, then right click and select 'inspect element' 
> you might get a clue
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:39:23 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Post script:
>>>
>>
>> On refresh a stray pre is appearing on the Browser address 
>> bar TiddlyWiki5.html#%2Fpre> and in my side bar /pre> 
>> 
>>  
>>  On attempting to import all the broken wikis tiddlers into a new empty 
>> tiddler in only attempts to import a subset of core tiddlers and no more.. 
>> Ie even the import facility may be breaking.
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

The full Org Mode of Emacs would require a parser for TW. Org mode is 
basically an "outliner" but it's actually about as sophisticated as you can 
get in plain text in what it does. It would need interest. Probably the 
central issue would be whether TW does it's functions already (in a 
different way). I agree its powerful plain simplicity is attractive. 

On Tuesday, 26 June 2018 03:21:30 UTC+2, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> I'm looking around and I see a lot of Emacs references, a few less (but 
> still a lot) Org-Mode references, but I don't see something that answers 
> the question itself (yet): is there a way to export from Org-mode to TW. 
>
> I started playing around with Org-mode recently and the writing experience 
> is great. I would really like to be able to export to TW (tid) format. The 
> closet I saw was this 
>  on 
> tiddlywiki.com but I'm not sure how to actually use it. It doesn't 
> font-lock (highlight) anything in the syntax really. Besides, I would *really 
> *like to be able to write in Org-mode, if it exists. 
>
> So... anyone here familiar with this? Anyone here uses Org to write and 
> work with TW at the same time? 
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Seeking Wiki-Lifeloggers

₩Һ혢ʈ ╤ћᘓ yes

For me, engaged in self-reflective, introspective lifelogging (not 
blogging) through personal wikis - Yes

Very interesting, Ditto to what TiddlyTweeter said.

Tony

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 10:56:58 AM UTC+10, h0p3 wrote:
>
> Hello! I'm trying to find people engaged in self-reflective, introspective 
> lifelogging through personal wikis. I'd like to get to know you, understand 
> your contemplative methodology, and attempt to learn from you about how to 
> wisely use this amazing wiki tool.
>
> This is my personal wiki: https://philosopher.life/. Desktop highly 
> recommended; it's about ~14mb in size. 
>
> Some of you are going to think "₩Һ혢ʈ ╤ћᘓ 픽ᵁʗꗪ" when you see my wiki. For 
> some, my wiki may feel like Timecube or TempleOS. I apologize for wasting 
> your time. Some of you, however, may be engaged in a similar process. I'd 
> like to connect with you folks! You can also find my contact information on 
> the wiki.
>

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[tw5] Re: import from Org-Mode

Shay,

Your question depends on someone knowing the emacs and org-mode references 
you have made (I do not), and someone may very well know what you are 
talking about, however if you opened this question up to include examples, 
such that people with extensive tiddlywiki but not emacs org experience 
could understand what may be needed, you will most likely get more answers 
and sooner.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 11:21:30 AM UTC+10, Shay Shaked wrote:
>
> I'm looking around and I see a lot of Emacs references, a few less (but 
> still a lot) Org-Mode references, but I don't see something that answers 
> the question itself (yet): is there a way to export from Org-mode to TW. 
>
> I started playing around with Org-mode recently and the writing experience 
> is great. I would really like to be able to export to TW (tid) format. The 
> closet I saw was this 
>  on 
> tiddlywiki.com but I'm not sure how to actually use it. It doesn't 
> font-lock (highlight) anything in the syntax really. Besides, I would *really 
> *like to be able to write in Org-mode, if it exists. 
>
> So... anyone here familiar with this? Anyone here uses Org to write and 
> work with TW at the same time? 
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Seeking Wiki-Lifeloggers

WHOA! That is seriously brilliant.  I need a couple of days to survey it. 
Comments later. It's lovely to see an actual wiki in it's purpose.

Josiah, x

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> wisely use this amazing wiki tool.
>
> This is my personal wiki: https://philosopher.life/.
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler as Field Value of Another Tiddler

TJ,

Be assured TiddlyWiki is extremely adaptable, rests on top of common 
internet standards and technology HTML, CSS, Javascript (special 
application there of)  and more. It is both a front and backend, a friend 
to coders and non coders alike and much more.

Responses below,

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 6:40:12 AM UTC+10, TJ Walker wrote:
>
> On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 6:49:55 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:
>
>> T J,
>>
>> In your question you use an alternative jargon to describe tiddlywiki, 
>>
>  
> With the so-called "jargon", I was merely hoping to double check some of 
> my understanding of TW by confirming perceived analogs between its 
> vernacular and terms I happen to be familiar with and find more 
> meaningful or *less* jargon-y.
>

 Understood and support your approach, however I could not understand it, I 
just wanted a little more familiar language used.

>
> then say "I've found that one dictionary can be set as the value of a 
>> key/attribute/field on another dictionary." Could you please spell this out 
>> a but more, 
>>
>
> Sure. Take, for example, JS:
> const wiki = {} // associative array as DB
>—given this structure is a collection of organized 
> data— and DBMS
>—given mechanisms are offered for managing and 
> retrieving its data
>
> wiki['Tiddler A Title'] = {text:'blah', ...other standard fields..., 
> customField1:'meh'} // associative array as record, a tiddler
> wiki['Tiddler B Title'] = {text:'stuff', ...} // another tiddler
> wiki['Tiddler C Title'] = {
> ...standard fields...,
> customFieldMyRefList: [
> wiki['Tiddler A Title'],
> wiki['Tiddler B Title']
> ] // an array of refs to records as the value of a custom field on a 
> record
> }
>  
>
>> and as mark suggests explain your objectives better.
>>
>
> The abstract nature of my inquiry accurately reflects the abstract nature 
> of my objective: to understand the structures and mechanisms of TW 
> generally/abstractly, to learn what types of things are (im)possible with 
> it —not to, at this point, realize any particular use or application of it.
>

I love chatting about the abstract, conceptual and nature of tiddlywiki, 
and I can help you with this. I am no JS expert, others here are, But I 
think what you are looking for is more than possible in TiddlyWiki, however 
there are some conceptual differences from a Procedural or Object 
programming language. I will try and dig up where I did a comprehensive 
explanation of this difference.

>  
>
>> As a platform I do not believe there is any database model that can not 
>> be represented in tiddlywiki, although some such as one that 
>> demands"referential integrity" as Mark mentions would be a little 
>> convoluted. 
>>
>
> So, if the value of a tiddler's title field changes, all ref mechanisms 
> break?
>

If you build a solution where the tiddler titles can or need to change, but 
they also represent a unique ID then yes this will break,  but this is in 
your hands. Not all reference mechanisms break, and less so if you use the 
uni-links plugin and alias'e. A Few of us have a solution for strict unique 
ids for some use cases. However using a changeable field (the Title) as a 
unique or key field is of course not the way to do it, It is easy to use 
other fields as the key field, not to mention datatiddlers Json formats and 
custom lists.

>
>  
>
>> Could you explain this further?, 
>>
>
> I'll revisit if I devise a more concrete use case that I need help with.
>

Abstract is also good, but only if use use a common higher level 
terminology, please.

>
> but first let me try and answer the question.
>>
>
> Thanks.
>  
>
>> Any Field can be use to store lists of tiddlers, just as the tags field 
>> already is doing, and there is a convention that uses the list field of a 
>> given tiddler  to list the tiddlers tagged with that tiddler, allowing 
>> drag-able reordering, and the listops operators etc.. are there to 
>> manipulate such lists.
>>
>> "Set[ing] one tiddler or a Title List 
>>  of tiddlers as the value of a 
>> custom field on another tiddler." Is possible using the above mechanism, 
>> and set-field messages, list ops widget and more.
>>
>
> Some of the mentioned mechanisms (messages, listops, widgets, *et cetera*) 
> have helped me find the relevant docs entries that I'd previously been 
> unable to find. Thanks.
>

Your Welcome, that was the intent. In learning tiddlywiki on TiddlyWiki.com 
the "Filter Operators" and Widgets are the most likely areas you will find 
answers, but search for other tiddlywiki resources because items such as 
tobias'es solutions http://tobibeer.github.io/tb5/#Welcome and filter info 
http://tobibeer.github.io/tw/filters/#Filter%20Examples are very helpful as 
are other sites out there.

>
>
> However I believe if we could see your objectives we may even be able to 
>> give more detailed or alternative options.
>>
>> Regrads
>>

[tw5] import from Org-Mode

I'm looking around and I see a lot of Emacs references, a few less (but 
still a lot) Org-Mode references, but I don't see something that answers 
the question itself (yet): is there a way to export from Org-mode to TW. 

I started playing around with Org-mode recently and the writing experience 
is great. I would really like to be able to export to TW (tid) format. The 
closet I saw was this 
 on 
tiddlywiki.com but I'm not sure how to actually use it. It doesn't 
font-lock (highlight) anything in the syntax really. Besides, I would *really 
*like to be able to write in Org-mode, if it exists. 

So... anyone here familiar with this? Anyone here uses Org to write and 
work with TW at the same time? 


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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

That's what I did.. and I think that's what messed it up. 

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 4:33:26 AM UTC-4, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi Shay,
>
> The thing I did, wrongly, is to try to play around with the tiddler I 
>> created *$:/tags/RawMarkup*. I wanted to include a comment to tell 
>> myself what I did. As soon as I did that, it broke stuff. So... ok I guess 
>> I can't explain in that tiddler, I'll explain in a tiddler leading to it. A 
>> bit messy, but no big deal. $ tiddlers are not meant to be self-explanatory 
>> anyway, they are code. 
>>
>> I think HTML comments
>
> 
>
> should work.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

Ah, good point there. I could do that right. 

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 8:35:18 PM UTC-4, TonyM wrote:
>
> Shay,
>
> I believe in documentation, and self documentation myself. I tend to use 
> the description field in a given tiddler to do this as it has less 
> likelyhood of interfering with the tiddler itself.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 4:02:26 AM UTC+10, Shay Shaked wrote:
>>
>> OK so after testing and re-testing, I think I understand what the issue 
>> is. 
>>
>> The good news is that *$:/tags/RawMarkup *works. 
>>
>> Just create a tiddler, put the code from Google Fonts in it, for example:
>>  https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Markazi+Text; rel=
>> "stylesheet">
>> In the tiddler tagged with *$:/tags/RawMarkup*, save it, save your wiki, 
>> reload wiki. 
>>
>> Then you have to specify you want to USE the font. You can do this in CSS 
>> in the wiki, or the newer version has this in the wiki settings. Just 
>> specify the font face, as you see it in Google fonts. This should work. 
>>
>> The thing I did, wrongly, is to try to play around with the tiddler I 
>> created *$:/tags/RawMarkup*. I wanted to include a comment to tell 
>> myself what I did. As soon as I did that, it broke stuff. So... ok I guess 
>> I can't explain in that tiddler, I'll explain in a tiddler leading to it. A 
>> bit messy, but no big deal. $ tiddlers are not meant to be self-explanatory 
>> anyway, they are code. 
>>
>> On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 7:51:24 AM UTC-4, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> It might well be. It sounds likely its a bug.
>>>
>>> IF something that worked with the $*:/tags/RawMarkup* tag in versions 
>>> prior to 5.1.17 stopped working then most likely it is. The best way to be 
>>> sure is to clone the same wiki content to 5.1.17 & 5.1.16 and see. If it 
>>> doesn't work in 5.1.17 then maybe open an issue at: 
>>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues
>>>
>>> UPDATE: Or comment here: https://groups.google.com/d/ 
>>> 
>>> msg/tiddlywiki/bSwzQSrExMg/ 
>>> 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bSwzQSrExMg/OcKiFvhyBQAJ
>>>
>>> JD wrote:

 yeah, this definitely was how I did it in previous versions, using 
 *$:/tags/RawMarkup*
 Is this maybe a bug in 5.1.17 ?

>>>

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

It's working after the upgrade (D'Oh!)

Thanks for your patience :)

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[tw5] Seeking Wiki-Lifeloggers

2018-06-25 Thread h0p3

Hello! I'm trying to find people engaged in self-reflective, introspective 
lifelogging through personal wikis. I'd like to get to know you, understand 
your contemplative methodology, and attempt to learn from you about how to 
wisely use this amazing wiki tool.

This is my personal wiki: https://philosopher.life/. Desktop highly 
recommended; it's about ~14mb in size. 

Some of you are going to think "₩Һ혢ʈ ╤ћᘓ 픽ᵁʗꗪ" when you see my wiki. For 
some, my wiki may feel like Timecube or TempleOS. I apologize for wasting 
your time. Some of you, however, may be engaged in a similar process. I'd 
like to connect with you folks! You can also find my contact information on 
the wiki.

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler as Field Value of Another Tiddler

TJ,

There are solutions that support the renaming of tiddlers and I myself will 
publish a unique id alias soon. Many cases can be handled with the uni-link 
plugin. I think however this need for re-nameable tiddlers is something a 
lot of new comers ask for but the more experienced people do not see as 
very important because this is not normally an issue with a few specific 
exceptions.

I recommend putting this perceived need to the side and see how much it 
comes up.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, June 26, 2018 at 8:31:42 AM UTC+10, TJ Walker wrote:
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:56:46 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 1:40:12 PM UTC-7, TJ Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> So, if the value of a tiddler's title field changes, all ref mechanisms 
>>> break?
>>>  
>>>
>>
>> Mostly. All the links to the tiddler will continue pointing at the old 
>> location. The exception is when you change the name of a tiddler TW will 
>> offer to make corresponding changes within the tags and lists fields of 
>> other tiddlers. The upshot is that you're probably better off forming 
>> relationships between tiddlers via tags and lists (the actual list field) 
>> then by standard links because the latter do not auto-update.
>>
>
> I see. Is there a reason behind this limitation; was it an intentional 
> design decision? Why aren't refs a function of IDs that are permanent (in 
> terms of the life of tiddler) allowing titles to change? 
>
>> ...
>>>
 ...
>
> ...
>
 ...
>>>
>> ...
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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

There we go -- "actions" was added to the checkbox widget in release 5.1.14.

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On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 2:53:15 PM UTC-7, Dave wrote:
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> Oh, I never thought of that - I'm on 5.1.13, and I see the latest is 
> 5.1.17 - I'll give that a try
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler as Field Value of Another Tiddler

TJ Walker wrote:
>
>
> I see. Is there a reason behind this limitation; was it an intentional 
> design decision? Why aren't refs a function of IDs that are permanent (in 
> terms of the life of tiddler) allowing titles to change?
>

No idea if this was intended. But its simply the case that the title of a 
tiddler IS its ID. Change it and you change the ID. That is why you can't 
have two tiddlers with the same title. This can create issues on import if 
you are not wary.

> ...
>>>
 ...
>
> ...
>
 ...
>>>
>> ...
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler as Field Value of Another Tiddler

2018-06-25 Thread Diego Mesa

This exact point has been the subject of *much* discussion/debate! 

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 5:31:42 PM UTC-5, TJ Walker wrote:
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:56:46 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 1:40:12 PM UTC-7, TJ Walker wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> So, if the value of a tiddler's title field changes, all ref mechanisms 
>>> break?
>>>  
>>>
>>
>> Mostly. All the links to the tiddler will continue pointing at the old 
>> location. The exception is when you change the name of a tiddler TW will 
>> offer to make corresponding changes within the tags and lists fields of 
>> other tiddlers. The upshot is that you're probably better off forming 
>> relationships between tiddlers via tags and lists (the actual list field) 
>> then by standard links because the latter do not auto-update.
>>
>
> I see. Is there a reason behind this limitation; was it an intentional 
> design decision? Why aren't refs a function of IDs that are permanent (in 
> terms of the life of tiddler) allowing titles to change? 
>
>> ...
>>>
 ...
>
> ...
>
 ...
>>>
>> ...
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler as Field Value of Another Tiddler

2018-06-25 Thread TJ Walker

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:56:46 PM UTC-6, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 1:40:12 PM UTC-7, TJ Walker wrote:
>>
>>
>> So, if the value of a tiddler's title field changes, all ref mechanisms 
>> break?
>>  
>>
>
> Mostly. All the links to the tiddler will continue pointing at the old 
> location. The exception is when you change the name of a tiddler TW will 
> offer to make corresponding changes within the tags and lists fields of 
> other tiddlers. The upshot is that you're probably better off forming 
> relationships between tiddlers via tags and lists (the actual list field) 
> then by standard links because the latter do not auto-update.
>

I see. Is there a reason behind this limitation; was it an intentional 
design decision? Why aren't refs a function of IDs that are permanent (in 
terms of the life of tiddler) allowing titles to change? 

> ...
>>
>>> ...

 ...

>>> ...
>>
> ...

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Re: [tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

2018-06-25 Thread David Shaw

Let me see if I have this straight.

There are two check boxes.
There are three different, legal states

1) Both boxes unselected
2) Box 1 selected, box 2 unselected
3) Box 2 selected, box 1 unselected (the reverse of 1)

If the boxes are in state 1, then clicking on a box puts them in either
state 2 or state 3, depending on which box is clicked.

If the boxes are in state 2 or state 3, then the action taken depends on
whether the clicked box is already selected or not.

If unselected, change from state 2 to state 3 or vice versa, depending on
the current state.

If selected, revert to state 1 with neither box selected.

The problem you have is that, if the boxes are in state 2 when clicked,
they change to state 3 and vice versa *regardless of whether the clicked
box is selected or not*

Am I right?

David Shaw

On Mon, 25 Jun 2018, 19:35 Dave,  wrote:

> But if I decided I was being dyslexic and want to change my mind and say
> its deviating to the L, checking that would uncheck the R one
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler as Field Value of Another Tiddler

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 1:40:12 PM UTC-7, TJ Walker wrote:
>
>
> So, if the value of a tiddler's title field changes, all ref mechanisms 
> break?
>  
>

Mostly. All the links to the tiddler will continue pointing at the old 
location. The exception is when you change the name of a tiddler TW will 
offer to make corresponding changes within the tags and lists fields of 
other tiddlers. The upshot is that you're probably better off forming 
relationships between tiddlers via tags and lists (the actual list field) 
then by standard links because the latter do not auto-update.

-- Mark

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

Oh, I never thought of that - I'm on 5.1.13, and I see the latest is 5.1.17 
- I'll give that a try

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

What exactly are you seeing when you do it? For me it seems to be working 
fine. Click R. Check. Click L. Check and clear R.

Is there any possibility that you're running the code on an older version 
of TW?

Good luck!
-- Mark

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 12:48:38 PM UTC-7, Dave wrote:
>
> @TiddlyTweeter - yes I will have tests like that, but that's not what I'm 
> getting at here.
>
> Mark -
>
> So ... you want to be able to check either box, and automatically CLEAR 
>> the other box. And at no point could it be left AND right because then your 
>> patient would be speaking with forked tongue.
>>
>> Right?
>>
>
> Correct! (and ha ha, good one!)
>
> And yes, later on I was going to add some indication of the test being 
> negative vs untested :) - I just need to get past this roadblock of 
> clearing the other checkbox.  If the checkbox info was being stored at some 
> absolute tiddler somewhere it would be easy, but because the naming is 
> relative to the <> $(currentTiddler)$ (??) I can't seem to 
> get it to work right. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Plugin for adding many wikitext links from search results?

2018-06-25 Thread Rob Hoelz

Thanks for the tip, JD - I'll use that for inspiration if I end up writing 
this thing!

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 10:12:03 AM UTC-5, JD wrote:
>
> Hi Rob, if you're comfortable with overwriting a shadow tiddler, you can 
> remove a line of code in *$:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/link-dropdown*
>
> so basically what you can do is maybe just delete this line
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
> from the *add-link-actions* macro
>
> from this 
> \define add-link-actions()
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-text-operation" $param="make-link" 
> text={{$(linkTiddler)$}} />
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
> \end
>
> to this
> \define add-link-actions()
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-text-operation" $param="make-link" 
> text={{$(linkTiddler)$}} />
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
> \end
>
> the "add wikitext link" dropdown won't close automatically now, you'd have 
> to click the editor toolbar icon again to dismiss the window.
>
> and maybe, if you don't want the searchbar to clear automatically, you can 
> also remove the following line:
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
>
> something like that?
>
> -JD
>
>
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 10:40:02 PM UTC+9, Rob Hoelz wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> I really like the "Create wikitext link" button in the editor, but 
>> oftentimes I find myself wanting to add many more than one link from a list 
>> of search results.  I was thinking it would open a popup that would stay 
>> open until dismissed, and each time a link is clicked in the popup it would 
>> be added to a bulleted list in the tiddler being edited.  Has anyone 
>> written a plugin like this?  If not, it doesn't sound that hard to do - 
>> just trying not to reinvent the wheel!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rob
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler as Field Value of Another Tiddler

2018-06-25 Thread TJ Walker

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 6:49:55 PM UTC-6, TonyM wrote:

> T J,
>
> In your question you use an alternative jargon to describe tiddlywiki, 
>
 
With the so-called "jargon", I was merely hoping to double check some of my 
understanding of TW by confirming perceived analogs between its vernacular 
and terms I happen to be familiar with and find more meaningful or *less* 
jargon-y.

then say "I've found that one dictionary can be set as the value of a 
> key/attribute/field on another dictionary." Could you please spell this out 
> a but more, 
>

Sure. Take, for example, JS:
const wiki = {} // associative array as DB
   —given this structure is a collection of organized data— 
and DBMS
   —given mechanisms are offered for managing and 
retrieving its data

wiki['Tiddler A Title'] = {text:'blah', ...other standard fields..., 
customField1:'meh'} // associative array as record, a tiddler
wiki['Tiddler B Title'] = {text:'stuff', ...} // another tiddler
wiki['Tiddler C Title'] = {
...standard fields...,
customFieldMyRefList: [
wiki['Tiddler A Title'],
wiki['Tiddler B Title']
] // an array of refs to records as the value of a custom field on a record
}
 

> and as mark suggests explain your objectives better.
>

The abstract nature of my inquiry accurately reflects the abstract nature 
of my objective: to understand the structures and mechanisms of TW 
generally/abstractly, to learn what types of things are (im)possible with 
it —not to, at this point, realize any particular use or application of it. 
 

> As a platform I do not believe there is any database model that can not be 
> represented in tiddlywiki, although some such as one that 
> demands"referential integrity" as Mark mentions would be a little 
> convoluted. 
>

So, if the value of a tiddler's title field changes, all ref mechanisms 
break?
 

> Could you explain this further?, 
>

I'll revisit if I devise a more concrete use case that I need help with.

but first let me try and answer the question.
>

Thanks.
 

> Any Field can be use to store lists of tiddlers, just as the tags field 
> already is doing, and there is a convention that uses the list field of a 
> given tiddler  to list the tiddlers tagged with that tiddler, allowing 
> drag-able reordering, and the listops operators etc.. are there to 
> manipulate such lists.
>
> "Set[ing] one tiddler or a Title List 
>  of tiddlers as the value of a 
> custom field on another tiddler." Is possible using the above mechanism, 
> and set-field messages, list ops widget and more.
>

Some of the mentioned mechanisms (messages, listops, widgets, *et cetera*) 
have helped me find the relevant docs entries that I'd previously been 
unable to find. Thanks.

However I believe if we could see your objectives we may even be able to 
> give more detailed or alternative options.
>
> Regrads
> Tony
>
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 6:38:54 AM UTC+10, TJ Walker wrote:
>>
>> TiddlerFields are name:value pairs that make up a tiddler 
>>> 
>>>
>>
>> So, tiddlers're more or less dictionaries/associative arrays/maps as db 
>> records, right? Within many contexts that offer such constructs, I've found 
>> that one dictionary can be set as the value of a key/attribute/field on 
>> another dictionary. I was hoping to be able to do this in TiddlyWiki; 
>> though, in poring over the docs, I wasn't able to determine how to set one 
>> tiddler or a Title List  of 
>> tiddlers as the value of a custom field on another tiddler. Is this 
>> possible?
>>
>> ...
>>
>> ...
>>
>> ...
>>
> ...

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

@TiddlyTweeter - yes I will have tests like that, but that's not what I'm 
getting at here.

Mark -

So ... you want to be able to check either box, and automatically CLEAR the 
> other box. And at no point could it be left AND right because then your 
> patient would be speaking with forked tongue.
>
> Right?
>

Correct! (and ha ha, good one!)

And yes, later on I was going to add some indication of the test being 
negative vs untested :) - I just need to get past this roadblock of 
clearing the other checkbox.  If the checkbox info was being stored at some 
absolute tiddler somewhere it would be easy, but because the naming is 
relative to the <> $(currentTiddler)$ (??) I can't seem to 
get it to work right. 

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

I don't blame the doctor. They feel bad enough already people die in their 
care.

Regarding an actual answer. Well its has quite a lot to do with the 
specific disease/condition/state-of-the doctor.

Surely you need to be able to define easily many "multi-toggle" states? Or 
picklists of criteria.

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

So ... you want to be able to check either box, and automatically CLEAR the 
other box. And at no point could it be left AND right because then your 
patient would be speaking with forked tongue.

Right?

>From a systems analyst point of view, it should be a 4 way radio button 
with "unasked (default)" , "Normal", "Left", "Right" . That way you can 
check your work in case the dyslexic, amnesiac doctor didn't do the test ;-)

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On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 11:31:12 AM UTC-7, Dave wrote:
>
> The use case is something like this:
> cranial nerve 12 test: tell the patient to stick out their tongue.  You're 
> looking for either straight ahead (normal) or deviating to the R or to the 
> L.
>
> Lets say initially I marked it as deviating to the R, so I check off the 
> "R" box.  This type of test is either/or or possibly negative (both 
> unchecked) but never both checked.  Lets say I decide, "no, I was 
> hallucinating, I'm going to call that negative (normal)" so I'd want to 
> uncheck the R checkbox, but I don't want the L one to suddenly become 
> checked - I want to call it a normal test (both unchecked)
>
> Does that help clarify?
>

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

I'm the right patient to ask about this as I have Multiple Sclerosis.

So you do the Medical Tuning Fork test on my Left Ankle. I report a clear 
NO that I can sense no vibration inside the bone. that is a positive 
measure. On my Right Elbow I clearly sense the vibration and you, doctor, 
can see my right hand has grip and normal ability. A positive measure of 
normal function.

Now, take the case of my Right Ankle. I report that I can feel SOME 
vibration though you, doctor, can confirm that the Right foot has 
inclination to Babinski's Reflex. Is it a positive or a negative? It seems 
IN-BETWEEN.

Is it in-betweens you are trying to get at?

On Monday, 25 June 2018 20:35:23 UTC+2, Dave wrote:
>
> But if I decided I was being dyslexic and want to change my mind and say 
> its deviating to the L, checking that would uncheck the R one
>

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

But if I decided I was being dyslexic and want to change my mind and say 
its deviating to the L, checking that would uncheck the R one

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

The use case is something like this:
cranial nerve 12 test: tell the patient to stick out their tongue.  You're 
looking for either straight ahead (normal) or deviating to the R or to the 
L.

Lets say initially I marked it as deviating to the R, so I check off the 
"R" box.  This type of test is either/or or possibly negative (both 
unchecked) but never both checked.  Lets say I decide, "no, I was 
hallucinating, I'm going to call that negative (normal)" so I'd want to 
uncheck the R checkbox, but I don't want the L one to suddenly become 
checked - I want to call it a normal test (both unchecked)

Does that help clarify?

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is there anyway to put comments with \define pragma?

For folk interested here is the BEFORE the discussion ...

\define fldAt() .\Wikis\$(twName)$\tiddlers\
\define tidsAt() .\Wikis\$(twName)$\tiddlers\*.tid
\define sfName() tw_$(twName)$.html
\define sfTo() ..\..\..\..\pages\tw\tw\tw_$(twName)$
\define hmXp2() ..\twBOB\Wikis\$(twName)$\tiddlers\

<$set name=twName value={{$:/WikiName}}> ... etc

and here is the AFTER that works ...

\define () Path to wiki's tiddler FOLDER
\define fldAt() .\Wikis\$(twName)$\tiddlers\
\define () Path to OPEN all .tid files for wiki
\define tidsAt() .\Wikis\$(twName)$\tiddlers\*.tid
\define () NAME single-file version of wiki
\define sfName() tw_$(twName)$.html
\define () PATH of single-file version of wiki 
\define sfTo() ..\..\..\..\pages\tw\tw\tw_$(twName)$
\define () Open an EXPLORER of wiki at
\define hmXp2() ..\twBOB\Wikis\$(twName)$\tiddlers\

<$set name=twName value={{$:/WikiName}}>

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

The logic of the buttons is confusing. What is the use-case?

You want the buttons to swap their status, but only until the 2nd click? 
What condition returns the buttons to independent operation?

Let's say you click the right button. Then you click the right button 
AGAIN. Presumably the left button is now clicked. NOW will clicking the 
left button turn off only the left button, or will it turn on the right?
 
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On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 10:22:45 AM UTC-7, Dave wrote:
>
> Thank you.  Here's what I need to happen:
>
> R[[_]] L[[_]]  <-- when you check the left one, it becomes checked, and if 
> checked again it becomes unchecked, same for the right one, and if either 
> one is checked, its opposite becomes unchecked, but having done that, you 
> can uncheck either one (to have neither checked) and in doing so *** the 
> opposite does //not// become checked again***  i.e. a checkbox only becomes 
> checked by the user checking it, not when the user unchecks the other.
>
> in the code in the first post, what I'm trying to do is when a checkbox is 
> checked (putting the value of "1" in the current tiddler's field 
> "test.right" (e.g.)), it also runs the macro "nulll" that assigns "0" to 
> the field "test.left".
>
> My problem is that with the "currentTiddler" reference I can't seem to get 
> that to work.
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is there anyway to put comments with \define pragma?


>
> Eric: I think the best long-term solution is to update the core pragma 
> parsing to allow HTML-style comments in between macros... but until then, 
> the above method does work today even though it's a bit ugly and awkward.
>

I raised an issue at GitHub 
https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3340 though it must have 
been raised often before?

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[tw5] Re: 2 checkboxes as OR choice, like radio buttons

Thank you.  Here's what I need to happen:

R[[_]] L[[_]]  <-- when you check the left one, it becomes checked, and if 
checked again it becomes unchecked, same for the right one, and if either 
one is checked, its opposite becomes unchecked, but having done that, you 
can uncheck either one (to have neither checked) and in doing so *** the 
opposite does //not// become checked again***  i.e. a checkbox only becomes 
checked by the user checking it, not when the user unchecks the other.

in the code in the first post, what I'm trying to do is when a checkbox is 
checked (putting the value of "1" in the current tiddler's field 
"test.right" (e.g.)), it also runs the macro "nulll" that assigns "0" to 
the field "test.left".

My problem is that with the "currentTiddler" reference I can't seem to get 
that to work.

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is there anyway to put comments with \define pragma?

Thank you Ton for the pointer. 
Thank you Eric for the detailed explanation and useful example workarounds. 

In my case I think that "Dummy" define pragma will do the job best till 
there is a better solution.

Many thanks!
Josiah

On Monday, 25 June 2018 19:09:20 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:51:03 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> I was really wondering whether there was a method of interspersing 
>> comments in the actual code. 
>>
>
> The pragma parsing syntax only allows whitespace *between* macro 
> definitions.  Thus, as you have noted, using HTML comments in-between the 
> macros does NOT work:
>
> 
> \define foo() bar
>
> However, when using a multi-line macro definition, you can use HTML 
> comments *inside* the macro itself:
> \define foo()
><-- comment inside definition -->
>bar
> \end
>
> But... this won't work if the macro content is intended for use in other 
> TW syntax (e.g., as a parameter value in a widget call).
>
> One approach that DOES work, is to define dummy "comment()" macros, like 
> this:
> \define comment() notes about foo go here
> \define foo() bar
>
> \define comment() notes about mumble go here
> \define mumble() gronk
>
> and... for readability, you can use dashes as the comment macro names to 
> match the length of the macro being defined after it, like this:
> \define ---() notes about foo go here
> \define foo() bar
>
> \define --() notes about mumble go here
> \define mumble() gronk
>
> I think the best long-term solution is to update the core pragma parsing 
> to allow HTML-style comments in between macros... but until then, the above 
> method does work today even though it's a bit ugly and awkward.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is there anyway to put comments with \define pragma?

2018-06-25 Thread Eric Shulman

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 8:51:03 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I was really wondering whether there was a method of interspersing 
> comments in the actual code. 
>

The pragma parsing syntax only allows whitespace *between* macro 
definitions.  Thus, as you have noted, using HTML comments in-between the 
macros does NOT work:

\define foo() bar

However, when using a multi-line macro definition, you can use HTML 
comments *inside* the macro itself:
\define foo()
   <-- comment inside definition -->
   bar
\end

But... this won't work if the macro content is intended for use in other TW 
syntax (e.g., as a parameter value in a widget call).

One approach that DOES work, is to define dummy "comment()" macros, like 
this:
\define comment() notes about foo go here
\define foo() bar

\define comment() notes about mumble go here
\define mumble() gronk

and... for readability, you can use dashes as the comment macro names to 
match the length of the macro being defined after it, like this:
\define ---() notes about foo go here
\define foo() bar

\define --() notes about mumble go here
\define mumble() gronk

I think the best long-term solution is to update the core pragma parsing to 
allow HTML-style comments in between macros... but until then, the above 
method does work today even though it's a bit ugly and awkward.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is there anyway to put comments with \define pragma?

2018-06-25 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi Josiah,

See 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/ioUM6pEPUEk/9ROfb4jaAAAJ

Cheers,

Ton

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is there anyway to put comments with \define pragma?

Ciao Ton

Not really. But thank you. Someone might find that tip useful. In my case I 
don't need it visible. Its only when I'm editing I need to see it. Though I 
guess I could use a  after the defines instead?

But the real issue in the use case is the problem of redundancy. By having 
two separate blocks (defines & defines with comments) you have to maintain 
both. It gets cumbersome if you twiddling with the defines and there are 
many.

I was really wondering whether there was a method of interspersing comments 
in the actual code. 

Best wishes
Josiah

On Monday, 25 June 2018 17:19:53 UTC+2, Ton Gerner wrote:
>
> Hi Josiah,
>
> When I create macros, I add documentation within triple backticks like so:
>
> \define ...
> code1
> code2
> \end
>
> ```
> \define ...
> code1
> explanation code1
> code2
> explanation code 2
> \end
> ```
>
>
> Does that work in your case?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ton
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Single Executable version using Bob 1.0.2 Sourdough Biscuits

Testing extra editions path ...

I set "editionsPath" in Manual Settings to ...

"editionsPath":".\tpl\"

In the ".\tpl\" directory I added the sub-directory "awsAgain" that is a
simple clone of the "aws" edition created through Available Wikis.

After reloading Bob "awsAgain" correctly appears on the "Select Wiki
Edition" menu.

I click "Make Wiki" and get the long error message below, which says
something like its 'not compiled into the executable.'

FYI I undid "editionsPath" and tried running Bob using the Environment
Variable instead. Same issue arose.

Wikis Folder Exists
WebSocket error, probably closed connection: { Error: Directory
'C:\**\SingleExecutable\editions\awsAgain' was not
included into executable at compilation stage. Please recompile adding it
as asset or script.
at error_ENOENT (pkg/prelude/bootstrap.js:422:17)
at readdirFromSnapshot (pkg/prelude/bootstrap.js:762:29)
at Object.fs.readdirSync (pkg/prelude/bootstrap.js:782:12)
at specialCopy ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/NodeMessageHandlers.js:598:29)
at Object.$tw.nodeMessageHandlers.createNewWiki ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/
NodeMessageHandlers.js:651:11)
at WebSocket.incoming ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/NodeWebSocketsSetup.js:182
:57)
at WebSocket.emit (events.js:159:13)
at Receiver._receiver.onmessage ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/WS/WebSocket.js:
156:47)
at Receiver.dataMessage ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/WS/Receiver.js:402:14)
at Receiver.getData ($:/plugins/OokTech/Bob/WS/Receiver.js:343:12)
errno: -4058,
code: 'ENOENT',
path: 'C:\\snapshot\\SingleExecutable\\editions\\awsAgain',
pkg: true }

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[tw5] Re: Query: Is there anyway to put comments with \define pragma?

2018-06-25 Thread Ton Gerner

Hi Josiah,

When I create macros, I add documentation within triple backticks like so:

\define ...
code1
code2
\end

```
\define ...
code1
explanation code1
code2
explanation code 2
\end
```


Does that work in your case?

Cheers,

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[tw5] Re: Plugin for adding many wikitext links from search results?

2018-06-25 Thread JD

Hi Rob, if you're comfortable with overwriting a shadow tiddler, you can 
remove a line of code in *$:/core/ui/EditorToolbar/link-dropdown*

so basically what you can do is maybe just delete this line
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
from the *add-link-actions* macro

from this 
\define add-link-actions()
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-text-operation" $param="make-link" 
text={{$(linkTiddler)$}} />
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
\end

to this
\define add-link-actions()
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-text-operation" $param="make-link" 
text={{$(linkTiddler)$}} />
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
\end

the "add wikitext link" dropdown won't close automatically now, you'd have 
to click the editor toolbar icon again to dismiss the window.

and maybe, if you don't want the searchbar to clear automatically, you can 
also remove the following line:
<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />

something like that?

-JD



On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 10:40:02 PM UTC+9, Rob Hoelz wrote:
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I really like the "Create wikitext link" button in the editor, but 
> oftentimes I find myself wanting to add many more than one link from a list 
> of search results.  I was thinking it would open a popup that would stay 
> open until dismissed, and each time a link is clicked in the popup it would 
> be added to a bulleted list in the tiddler being edited.  Has anyone 
> written a plugin like this?  If not, it doesn't sound that hard to do - 
> just trying not to reinvent the wheel!
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Single Executable version using Bob 1.0.2 Sourdough Biscuits

2018-06-25 Thread Ed

Hi Jed,

Am trying out latest version of Bob. Problem.
I have made a tiddler and did the following
1. I edited it: Entered some more text.
2. Changed the title
3. Saved it

Now I have two tiddlers, the old one AND the new one.
If I delete the first version the older version persists.
I have to close down everything to get rid of it, or so it seems.
and starts via the .exe file again.
Any ideas?
Tschüß, Ed
= = = = = =
.
.





Op zondag 24 juni 2018 15:38:10 UTC+2 schreef Jed Carty:
>
> I just uploaded the new versions of Bob as a single executable tiddlywiki. 
> The updates to Bob as a plugin have actually been up for about 3 weeks but 
> I forgot to announce it.
>
> The single executable version is here 
> https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-SingleExecutable/releases/tag/1.0.2
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> The plugin version is here https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob
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> Let me know if you run into any bugs.
>
> Here is the changelog for version 1.0.2:
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> - Fixed/Updated documentation
> - for the getSetting macro (fixed typo)
> - for the buildHTMLWiki message (added excludeList info)
> - fixed the message about shutting down the server in the server 
> actions tab
> - Fixed a bug where output single file html wikis would always be 
> called `index.html`
> - Added an optional excludeFilter attribute to the buildHTMLWiki message 
> that lists tiddlers that shouldn't be added to the exported wiki.
> - Added the option to set the location of external editions using the 
> editionsPath setting.
> - This shouldn't affect the environment variable method of setting the 
> location.
> - Fixed a bug that would let the server try and load a wiki that didn't 
> exist
> - Updated instructions to point to TiddlyWiki version 5.1.17
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[tw5] Plugin for adding many wikitext links from search results?

2018-06-25 Thread Rob Hoelz

Hi everyone,

I really like the "Create wikitext link" button in the editor, but 
oftentimes I find myself wanting to add many more than one link from a list 
of search results.  I was thinking it would open a popup that would stay 
open until dismissed, and each time a link is clicked in the popup it would 
be added to a bulleted list in the tiddler being edited.  Has anyone 
written a plugin like this?  If not, it doesn't sound that hard to do - 
just trying not to reinvent the wheel!

Thanks,
Rob

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[tw5] Query: Is there anyway to put comments with \define pragma?

Use case...

I'm using Jed Carty's Bob a lot. For my needs i define variant paths at the 
top of Tiddlers that do things so that I don't have to edit the actions 
individually ... for example ...

\define fldAt() .\Wikis\$(twName)$\tiddlers\
\define tidsAt() .\Wikis\$(twName)$\tiddlers\*.tid
\define sfName() tw_$(twName)$.html
\define sfTo() ..\..\..\..\pages\tw\tw\tw_$(twName)$
\define hmXp2() ..\twBOB\Wikis\$(twName)$\tiddlers\

<$set name=twName value={{$:/WikiName}}> ... etc

... whilst today I understand what the definitions mean its unlikely in 3 
months I will.

My question is: is there a way to be able to add comments (one above each 
line) so later I can understand the definitions without having to look 
through the whole code below them?

I haven't seen any documentation on whether you can or workarounds. 

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Single Executable version using Bob 1.0.2 Sourdough Biscuits

Dear Bob & Jed

There a few things I'd to check to make sure I have understood them right 
...

Am I right that in...

<$action-websocketmessage $type='buildHTMLWiki' outputFolder= 

... that "outputFolder=" needs an address relative to where the wiki is 
located. I.e. "$type='buildHTMLWiki'" runs in the directory of the wiki 
concerned?

Whilst...

 <$action-websocketmessage $type=runScript

Always run from the directory where the executable is located. I.e. when 
using addresses in "$type=runScript" paths should be relative to that?

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[tw5] Re: [TW5] Announcing Single Executable version using Bob 1.0.2 Sourdough Biscuits


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> - Fixed a bug where output single file html wikis would always be 
> called `index.html`
>

Thanks! Its working well now with bespoke names.

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[tw5] Re: Google Fonts - again?

2018-06-25 Thread JD

Ooh, looks like I missed a certain step in my previous testing process. It 
is indeed working properly!

On Sunday, June 24, 2018 at 8:51:24 PM UTC+9, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> It might well be. It sounds likely its a bug.
>
> IF something that worked with the $*:/tags/RawMarkup* tag in versions 
> prior to 5.1.17 stopped working then most likely it is. The best way to be 
> sure is to clone the same wiki content to 5.1.17 & 5.1.16 and see. If it 
> doesn't work in 5.1.17 then maybe open an issue at: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues
>
> UPDATE: Or comment here: https://groups.google.com/d/ 
> 
> msg/tiddlywiki/bSwzQSrExMg/ 
> 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/bSwzQSrExMg/OcKiFvhyBQAJ
>
> JD wrote:
>>
>> yeah, this definitely was how I did it in previous versions, using 
>> *$:/tags/RawMarkup*
>> Is this maybe a bug in 5.1.17 ?
>>
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[tw5] Re: How to debug my unload-able Wiki

2018-06-25 Thread BJ

if you load your broke tw, then right click and select 'inspect element' 
you might get a clue

On Monday, June 25, 2018 at 3:39:23 AM UTC+2, TonyM wrote:
>
> Post script:
>>
>
> On refresh a stray pre is appearing on the Browser address 
> bar TiddlyWiki5.html#%2Fpre> and in my side bar /pre> 
> 
>  
>  On attempting to import all the broken wikis tiddlers into a new empty 
> tiddler in only attempts to import a subset of core tiddlers and no more.. 
> Ie even the import facility may be breaking.
>
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[tw5] Re: Request for help with new filter operator and new tutorial.