date:20190219

Hi JD

> I  wonder if I have to convert some colors for that? Some of these palettes 
> use rgba colors with opacities, which might not be compatible with some 
> browsers. 

We may be OK, support looks pretty broad now:

https://caniuse.com/#feat=css3-colors

> And also, I don't know how to actually request something be put into the 
> core, nor the naming convention for a palette that isn't attached to a theme. 
>  

Not a problem, I can easily copy them across if you're happy to contribute them?

Many thanks,

Jeremy

> 
> -jd
> 
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 21:18 Jeremy Ruston > Hi JD
>> 
>> These are great. I'd be interested in having them in the core: most of us 
>> struggle to make palettes that are effective, and yet they are quite small.
>> 
>> Best wishes
>> 
>> Jeremy
>> 
>> --
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>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>> 
>>> On 18 Feb 2019, at 15:28, E Browns  wrote:
>>> 
>>> http://j.d.palette.tiddlyspot.com/Hi BTC,
>>> 
>>> Thank you! Spartan Day and Night are my actual favorites. 
>>> 
>>> It's not a problem for me to update http://j.d.palette.tiddlyspot.com/ with 
>>> your suggestion, as I constantly change my personal copy of the palette 
>>> anyway (I tend towards redder colors more, recently. Sometimes harsh white 
>>> accents when the mood strikes)
>>> 
>>> -jd
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 8:17 PM BurningTreeC 
  wrote:
 Hi JD, forgive me that I'm using this thread for something not directly 
 related:
 
 
 I like your palettes a lot and often happen to just drag one over to one 
 of my wikies, especially the spartan night palette
 There's one stopper that needs me to add a line of css for the spartan 
 night palette every time, it's the color of the tc-tiddlylink buttons and 
 a-tags
 
 I use a slightly more readable color for them (#5656f3;)
 
 
 Would you mind giving it a shot if it also improves readability for you? I 
 think it would improve the palette a lot
 
 all the best,
 btc
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[tw5] Re: Announcing the new "Browser-Storage" plugin

Another use case;

We can request a username be given, and saved in the browser session. That 
username will be there on return.

Local storage permits the saving of new tiddlers such as comments. If we 
get the user to provide their user name all their created tiddlers can be 
exported easily and such a package can be forwarded as a submission to the 
website and imported by or applied by the wiki owner with update access.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 13:22:58 UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I am experimenting with local storage over here 
> . 
> Anyone can use this as a platform to test Local storage and play with the 
> pre-release as at 2019-02-20 so have a look.
>
> I have no doubt it will have a number of great use cases. 
>
>- One is simply permitting trivial search and settings the visitor 
>uses to be saved for your return
>   - In this case it is trivial if the settings are lost on return
>   - Local storage saved Pallets, themes, toolbar settings etc... make 
>   the experience much better.
>- Remember it only saves the changes from the loaded version so it 
>needs only the space required to store these changes
>   - Imagine if I had a "Home Loan Calculator", the user details are 
>   small in volume.
>   - The Result of the computation could be printed so the result is 
>   captured by the user, 
>   - If the local storage goes (by my calculation very unlikely) they 
>   can enter it again (if you do not promise they will not expect it)
>- At any time the user can save the wiki in totality - they are in 
>charge of their own risk aversion.
>
> Issues Encountered
>
>- If I export an updated wiki to file, then upload and replace the 
>online copy with those changes, when I return to the URL it is still 
>showing the local storage items which are now redundant
>   - I need to find a way to purge these
>   - I Found a Way to purge this 
>- It is all good showing there are unsaved changes, but this would be 
>unnecessarily confusing to casual users. I have thus hidden this in the 
>DOcument Info tiddler.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, 10 February 2019 06:04:50 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Actually I'm puzzled what the use case might be. If you can't trust your 
>> data in it for long, and if there is no synchronization, then what are the 
>> use cases? Mostly I could see it in an environment where every other save 
>> technique is disallowed and where you don't mind if the data could be 
>> exposed. Perhaps a system where your only connection to the outside world 
>> is via email. Perhaps a mechanism for using TW for collating and processing 
>> information, that then gets copied and pasted elsewhere. What else  
>> although your data isn't secure, if you've ever rifled through your FF 
>> profile for information (like I did with NoteSelf), it's definitely 
>> obscure. Obscure may be good enough when all you want is to not leave a 
>> trail of files behind.
>>
>> Other ideas?
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> There's another product, Laverna, that uses local and/or indexed storage 
>> as well. They tout that they have an emphasis on privacy, because your data 
>> isn't on the web. 
>>
>> On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 6:11:17 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> PMario wrote:

 Some more info about the storage limits 
 .
  
 If you take your time an read this stuff, you'll see that the behaviour is 
 completely unpredictable. 

 And in my opinion way to fragile for our usecases. ... 

>>>
>>> I agree.
>>>
>>> I think there are a limited set of use cases where it could work 
>>> usefully. But for longer-term saving of a wiki it is not a good strategy  
>>> IMO.
>>>
>>> FYI, when NoteSelf first appeared I looked into it and found 
>>> understanding browser storage very difficult. NoteSelf is a really great 
>>> tool, but I'd never use it without a CouchDB remote database its constantly 
>>> syncing with.
>>>
>>> My two cents
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: WikiText for Dummies

S S ,

*Seriously good work there*. As you move on to *WIki Text for beginners* 
you may want to steal from my developing resource as needed.

See Variables, Parameters and transclusions 

*Note some items are untested.*

In Widgets For Beginners

*Perhaps this note is not for beginners.*

I wonder if there is value pointing out HTML often integrates with 
Javascript to execute things. 

TiddlyWiki's way of providing access to execute things is via widgets 
(which  include javascript)

For example
Inactive button
Click Me!
is HTML but we can't get it to execute the alert('Hello world!') in 
Tiddlywiki and if it did It would bypass some vary useful features of 
tiddlywiki.

Instead we use the tiddlywiki version, the <$button widget
<$button parameters>
Click Me!

The point being you will always need widgets to execute things in 
TiddlyWiki, so behind the scenes TiddlyWiki can keep track of all 
executions and changes.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 15:43:32 UTC+11, S. S. wrote:
>
>
> Now that, thanks to all the feedback, Widgets for Beginners 
>  is 
> almost done;
>
> It's time for WikiText for Beginners 
> 
>
> It's a reasonably short tiddler (by my standards)! 
>
> I'd appreciate knowing if there are any glaring mistakes or omissions.
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: A Little challenge - Searching for numbers "within" a range

FYI:

As you divide the Problem by two (2) each time, two is synonymous with 
binary. So you have suggested a version of "binary search".

You can even do this without numbers. For example if you can't connect to 
google search.

*Your Browser*, on your desktop, on your home network, *your home router*, 
your ISP, on the internet, google servers, *google search*

You could see if the problem is your home router, then to the left or right 
of your Home Router depending on success or failure.

You should be proud of re-inventing the wheel, it's a sign of genius, of 
local invention, if not the first or global invention.

Regards
Tony



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>
>
> Tony,
>
> I have no idea what a binary search is. I am not a programmer!
> Now I did the difficult part, laying out the logic, which works!
> I'll leave the easy part to the programmers.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:31:09 AM UTC+7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> S S ,
>>
>> A Form of Binary search? Nice algorithm. 
>>
>> . . .
>>
>> I have no doubt your algoritium could be essential in other data cases.
>>
>> How do you think it would be implemented in TiddlyWiki?
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] WikiText for Dummies

2019-02-19 Thread S. S.


Now that, thanks to all the feedback, Widgets for Beginners 
 is 
almost done;

It's time for WikiText for Beginners 


It's a reasonably short tiddler (by my standards)! 

I'd appreciate knowing if there are any glaring mistakes or omissions.

Thanks.

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the new "Browser-Storage" plugin

Issue?

On importing a tiddler, it is not being saved in Local Storage and thus is 
not available on reload?

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 13:22:58 UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> I am experimenting with local storage over here 
> . 
> Anyone can use this as a platform to test Local storage and play with the 
> pre-release as at 2019-02-20 so have a look.
>
> I have no doubt it will have a number of great use cases. 
>
>- One is simply permitting trivial search and settings the visitor 
>uses to be saved for your return
>   - In this case it is trivial if the settings are lost on return
>   - Local storage saved Pallets, themes, toolbar settings etc... make 
>   the experience much better.
>- Remember it only saves the changes from the loaded version so it 
>needs only the space required to store these changes
>   - Imagine if I had a "Home Loan Calculator", the user details are 
>   small in volume.
>   - The Result of the computation could be printed so the result is 
>   captured by the user, 
>   - If the local storage goes (by my calculation very unlikely) they 
>   can enter it again (if you do not promise they will not expect it)
>- At any time the user can save the wiki in totality - they are in 
>charge of their own risk aversion.
>
> Issues Encountered
>
>- If I export an updated wiki to file, then upload and replace the 
>online copy with those changes, when I return to the URL it is still 
>showing the local storage items which are now redundant
>   - I need to find a way to purge these
>   - I Found a Way to purge this 
>- It is all good showing there are unsaved changes, but this would be 
>unnecessarily confusing to casual users. I have thus hidden this in the 
>DOcument Info tiddler.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Sunday, 10 February 2019 06:04:50 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Actually I'm puzzled what the use case might be. If you can't trust your 
>> data in it for long, and if there is no synchronization, then what are the 
>> use cases? Mostly I could see it in an environment where every other save 
>> technique is disallowed and where you don't mind if the data could be 
>> exposed. Perhaps a system where your only connection to the outside world 
>> is via email. Perhaps a mechanism for using TW for collating and processing 
>> information, that then gets copied and pasted elsewhere. What else  
>> although your data isn't secure, if you've ever rifled through your FF 
>> profile for information (like I did with NoteSelf), it's definitely 
>> obscure. Obscure may be good enough when all you want is to not leave a 
>> trail of files behind.
>>
>> Other ideas?
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> There's another product, Laverna, that uses local and/or indexed storage 
>> as well. They tout that they have an emphasis on privacy, because your data 
>> isn't on the web. 
>>
>> On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 6:11:17 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> PMario wrote:

 Some more info about the storage limits 
 .
  
 If you take your time an read this stuff, you'll see that the behaviour is 
 completely unpredictable. 

 And in my opinion way to fragile for our usecases. ... 

>>>
>>> I agree.
>>>
>>> I think there are a limited set of use cases where it could work 
>>> usefully. But for longer-term saving of a wiki it is not a good strategy  
>>> IMO.
>>>
>>> FYI, when NoteSelf first appeared I looked into it and found 
>>> understanding browser storage very difficult. NoteSelf is a really great 
>>> tool, but I'd never use it without a CouchDB remote database its constantly 
>>> syncing with.
>>>
>>> My two cents
>>> Josiah
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: A Little challenge - Searching for numbers "within" a range

2019-02-19 Thread S. S.


Tony,

I have no idea what a binary search is. I am not a programmer!
Now I did the difficult part, laying out the logic, which works!
I'll leave the easy part to the programmers.

Cheers!

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:31:09 AM UTC+7, TonyM wrote:
>
> S S ,
>
> A Form of Binary search? Nice algorithm. 
>
> . . .
>
> I have no doubt your algoritium could be essential in other data cases.
>
> How do you think it would be implemented in TiddlyWiki?
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: A Little challenge - Searching for numbers "within" a range

Mark,

I am thinking this may be the way. A Button on a given area would generate 
the post codes from the range and individual ones and update a data 
tiddler. In this way if there is an overlap with another area the last one 
will win. It need only be done on the change of an area.

Now I need to bring the the areas (with Post codes) into a region and 
Regions into States.

Thanks all for the feedback so far

Regards
Tonyt

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 10:29:48 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Maybe put the "real" values in a data dictionary, and verify against that.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 3:14:54 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mal,
>>
>> That was my first thought, but I learned while "valid post codes exist in 
>> a range, not all postcodes in that range exist". If I manufacture postcodes 
>> I may be giving an undue suggestion that the post code is valid, but I 
>> suppose we are doing that anyway.
>>
>> I may still take that approach, and use the range operator to generate 
>> them
>>
>> Tony
>>
>> On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 10:07:20 UTC+11, Mal wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Tony,
>>>
>>> I would be inclined to expand each list of postcodes and put them in a 
>>> list field.  This would allow really simple search code and the resulting 
>>> tiddler would not be all that large.
>>>
>>> I know this was not your challenge, but just saying...
>>>
>>> Mal
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: A Little challenge - Searching for numbers "within" a range

S S ,

A Form of Binary search? Nice algorithm. In this case the lookup will be 
rare, and typically only when changing the Postcodes on a particular 
region. So I suspect in this case it would be overkill.

Also being postcodes the data is not simply a list of numbers from 1000 to 
9000 as the first number represents an Australian state, and some have much 
less post codse, with some codes representing millions of Square 
kilometers. 

I suppose my main objective is to make the application of changes easy, and 
in someway's that is simply to allow the user to set numbers and ranges. It 
is then interpreting them on the fly that is my greater concern in this 
application. But I will keep this in mind.

I have no doubt your algoritium could be essential in other data cases.

How do you think it would be implemented in TiddlyWiki?

Regards
Tony


On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 12:42:48 UTC+11, S. S. wrote:
>
>
> Tony,
>
> The method of going through a table by halves is very effective and fast 
> where a number (*N*) lies inside a given range.
> Now how you could do this using TiddlyWiki is the challenge!
>
> The below simple method can look up a table of a million range entries in 
> milliseconds.
>
> 1. Count the number of entries in your table. Say you have 10,000 post 
> codes.
>Likely the table will be less than 1,000 entries as they are ranges - 
> let us say it is 1,000 ranges (X)
>First Line is 0 (FL) : FL = 0
>Note the post code entry that is in the middle position of this table - 
> the X/2 = 500th entry in the table (Integer value) 
>This is the Search Line(SL) : SL = INT(X/2)
> 2. Check if your number (*N*) is 
>greater than the start value of this middle entry's post code range
>AND less than the end value of this range.
>If it is, you have found the correct range. - Stop here.
>If not ...
>  3a. Check if the post code *N* is NOT in any range in your table (needed 
> as you narrow down your search)
>  If FL=SL then the Code is Missing - Stop here.
>  3b. If *N* is greater than the start value of the range
>  Make FL = SL
>  check against the higher next half point table entry position: (FL + 
> X)/2  = 750 (Rounded value)
>  Repeat step #2
>  3b. ELSE (meaning *N* is less than the start value of the range)
>  Make X = SL
>  check against the lower next half point table entry position: (FL + 
> X)/2 = 250 (Integer value)
>  and Repeat step #2
>  4. Continue until you reach the end point - I believe 2^10 calculations 
> (1,024) for this size of table.
>
> I doubt you will end up doing it this way, as TiddlyWiki out of the box 
> doesn't seem to be geared for this kind of manipulation.
> Still, it was fun laying you the logic for you!
>
> Cheers
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Announcing the new "Browser-Storage" plugin

Mark,

I am experimenting with local storage over here 
. 
Anyone can use this as a platform to test Local storage and play with the 
pre-release as at 2019-02-20 so have a look.

I have no doubt it will have a number of great use cases. 

   - One is simply permitting trivial search and settings the visitor uses 
   to be saved for your return
  - In this case it is trivial if the settings are lost on return
  - Local storage saved Pallets, themes, toolbar settings etc... make 
  the experience much better.
   - Remember it only saves the changes from the loaded version so it needs 
   only the space required to store these changes
  - Imagine if I had a "Home Loan Calculator", the user details are 
  small in volume.
  - The Result of the computation could be printed so the result is 
  captured by the user, 
  - If the local storage goes (by my calculation very unlikely) they 
  can enter it again (if you do not promise they will not expect it)
   - At any time the user can save the wiki in totality - they are in 
   charge of their own risk aversion.

Issues Encountered

   - If I export an updated wiki to file, then upload and replace the 
   online copy with those changes, when I return to the URL it is still 
   showing the local storage items which are now redundant
  - I need to find a way to purge these
  - I Found a Way to purge this 
   - It is all good showing there are unsaved changes, but this would be 
   unnecessarily confusing to casual users. I have thus hidden this in the 
   DOcument Info tiddler.

Regards
Tony

On Sunday, 10 February 2019 06:04:50 UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Actually I'm puzzled what the use case might be. If you can't trust your 
> data in it for long, and if there is no synchronization, then what are the 
> use cases? Mostly I could see it in an environment where every other save 
> technique is disallowed and where you don't mind if the data could be 
> exposed. Perhaps a system where your only connection to the outside world 
> is via email. Perhaps a mechanism for using TW for collating and processing 
> information, that then gets copied and pasted elsewhere. What else  
> although your data isn't secure, if you've ever rifled through your FF 
> profile for information (like I did with NoteSelf), it's definitely 
> obscure. Obscure may be good enough when all you want is to not leave a 
> trail of files behind.
>
> Other ideas?
>
> -- Mark
>
> There's another product, Laverna, that uses local and/or indexed storage 
> as well. They tout that they have an emphasis on privacy, because your data 
> isn't on the web. 
>
> On Friday, February 8, 2019 at 6:11:17 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> PMario wrote:
>>>
>>> Some more info about the storage limits 
>>> .
>>>  
>>> If you take your time an read this stuff, you'll see that the behaviour is 
>>> completely unpredictable. 
>>>
>>> And in my opinion way to fragile for our usecases. ... 
>>>
>>
>> I agree.
>>
>> I think there are a limited set of use cases where it could work 
>> usefully. But for longer-term saving of a wiki it is not a good strategy  
>> IMO.
>>
>> FYI, when NoteSelf first appeared I looked into it and found 
>> understanding browser storage very difficult. NoteSelf is a really great 
>> tool, but I'd never use it without a CouchDB remote database its constantly 
>> syncing with.
>>
>> My two cents
>> Josiah
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: A Little challenge - Searching for numbers "within" a range

2019-02-19 Thread S. S.


Tony,

The method of going through a table by halves is very effective and fast 
where a number (*N*) lies inside a given range.
Now how you could do this using TiddlyWiki is the challenge!

The below simple method can look up a table of a million range entries in 
milliseconds.

1. Count the number of entries in your table. Say you have 10,000 post 
codes.
   Likely the table will be less than 1,000 entries as they are ranges - 
let us say it is 1,000 ranges (X)
   First Line is 0 (FL) : FL = 0
   Note the post code entry that is in the middle position of this table - 
the X/2 = 500th entry in the table (Integer value) 
   This is the Search Line(SL) : SL = INT(X/2)
2. Check if your number (*N*) is 
   greater than the start value of this middle entry's post code range
   AND less than the end value of this range.
   If it is, you have found the correct range. - Stop here.
   If not ...
 3a. Check if the post code *N* is NOT in any range in your table (needed 
as you narrow down your search)
 If FL=SL then the Code is Missing - Stop here.
 3b. If *N* is greater than the start value of the range
 Make FL = SL
 check against the higher next half point table entry position: (FL + 
X)/2  = 750 (Rounded value)
 Repeat step #2
 3b. ELSE (meaning *N* is less than the start value of the range)
 Make X = SL
 check against the lower next half point table entry position: (FL + 
X)/2 = 250 (Integer value)
 and Repeat step #2
 4. Continue until you reach the end point - I believe 2^10 calculations 
(1,024) for this size of table.

I doubt you will end up doing it this way, as TiddlyWiki out of the box 
doesn't seem to be geared for this kind of manipulation.
Still, it was fun laying you the logic for you!

Cheers

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[tw5] Identify Tiddler on URI, New Local storage and haschanged

Folks,

You may be interested at looking at 
http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/tiddlywiki5.1.20PreRelease.html which is my 
hosted prerelease version with Local storage on

My Question

   - If I use the 
   urI: 
http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/tiddlywiki5.1.20PreRelease.html?param#Document%20info
   - You can see I have specified #Document%20info
   - This dutifully opens only the tiddler "Document info". 


*Can anyone tell me how to programmatically identify this tiddler name 
within tiddlywiki?*

For that matter what if I use a Permaview?

http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/tiddlywiki5.1.20PreRelease.html?param#Home:Home%20%5B%5BDocument%20info%5D%5D

*How can I extract the tiddler names from a permaview?*

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Days operator offset by 1 day in timezones west of GMT

Hubert,

Unfortunately the days operator was a quick solution to an important 
problem but can be a little hard to understand. I did a lot of work trying 
to simplify it, but this complexity makes it time consuming to return to 
it. The table attached needs a thorough test for example;

[image: Snag_2217345e.png]
The truth is there should be no problem relating to dates and UTC when we 
manually stamp a date field with a date only or a mmdd1200 except if 
the days filter is sourcing today incorrectly.

Now when a date is stamped with now, there is a chance it is a local time 
or UTC s future comparisons need to know to which that date is referring. 
It appears the timezone offset is retrieved automatically, and their is now 
aye to obtaining it independently. 

<>
{{!!modified}}
{{!!created}}

Are returning the correct date with time zone, because there is special 
handling for the modified and created dates, A method I have wanted to 
emulate for other fields. If this was known we could ensure our own date 
fields comply and work this way as well.

My Suspicion is Days sees a number as UTC but custom dates are not stored 
as UTC but the local time, so the comparison becomes invalid as the Time 
zone is falsely included. 

As a result I have raised this GitHub 
issue https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3779

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 10:46:11 UTC+11, Hubert wrote:
>
> Thanks Mark. I don't have an issue with adding a time offset to my own 
> dates to prevent this, even though I'd need to rewrite my js macros that I 
> use for pushing my recurrent tasks forward.
>
> The only reason I've raised the issue here is that I think the days 
> operator could be 'fixed' easily and that's its default mode of operation 
> is counterintuitive, considering that it works on dates alone.
>
> Thanks,
> Hubert
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Days operator offset by 1 day in timezones west of GMT

2019-02-19 Thread Hubert

Thanks Mark. I don't have an issue with adding a time offset to my own dates to 
prevent this, even though I'd need to rewrite my js macros that I use for 
pushing my recurrent tasks forward.

The only reason I've raised the issue here is that I think the days operator 
could be 'fixed' easily and that's its default mode of operation is 
counterintuitive, considering that it works on dates alone.

Thanks,
Hubert

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

Mohammad,

Looking good. A Suggestion if I may

When we select from a named filter, could this name be displayed as "last 
filter selected" as it acts as a Title to the current "function of the page"

eg Last filter selected: *Draft Tiddlers*

Even if someone goes and modifies the filter, the title remains valid. If 
then they save the filter with a new name, this could be set 
eg Last filter selected: *Draft System Tiddlers*

If someone returns to Commander the current setting will be prominent.

Regards
Tony 

On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:30:53 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Announcement: Tiddler Commander
> Date: Feb 12th, 2019
> Status: beta (idea)
>
> Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
> *
>
> *Major update: 19th February 2019*
>
>- New: add and remove chars to/from the title was added
>- New: add/remove chars uses a non-overwriting mechanism
>
>
> *Major update: 18th February 2019*
>
>- Fixed: handling missing tiddlers added
>- New: remove chars from the title us added
>- Fixed: a specified height is used in ui to prevent collapsing
>- *bugs*
>   - *remove chars overwrite tiddlers*
>
>
>
> *Major update: 14th February 2019*
>
>- New: bulk tiddler creation using templates
>- New: remove fields using drop down menu
>- New: preset search filter added
>- New: save search filter added
>- Fixed: empty suffix/prefix does not delete tiddlers anymore
>- Fixed: prevent all overwriting (issue: you cannot force overwriting)
>
>
> *Minor Update: 13th February 2019*
>
>- Fixed: remove suffix not working
>- New: bulk tiddler created has got new name format
>- New: added range and select widgets for "create bulk tiddlers"
>- New: added delete tiddlers at once operation
>
>
>
>
> Referring to the discussion here: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ
> I have prepared a small toolkit called Tiddler Commander or in short 
> Commander. This is a proof of concept and
> both the name and operations can be changed.
>
> I highly welcome any constructive idea and I hope get feedback from both 
> users and developers.
>
> I also welcome any collaboration as is discussed in other posts.
>
> Warning: This is a beta release and is not in form of plugin! Do not 
> import to your own wikis because of the risk of data loss.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: A Little challenge - Searching for numbers "within" a range

Maybe put the "real" values in a data dictionary, and verify against that.

-- Mark

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 3:14:54 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mal,
>
> That was my first thought, but I learned while "valid post codes exist in 
> a range, not all postcodes in that range exist". If I manufacture postcodes 
> I may be giving an undue suggestion that the post code is valid, but I 
> suppose we are doing that anyway.
>
> I may still take that approach, and use the range operator to generate them
>
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 10:07:20 UTC+11, Mal wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>
>> I would be inclined to expand each list of postcodes and put them in a 
>> list field.  This would allow really simple search code and the resulting 
>> tiddler would not be all that large.
>>
>> I know this was not your challenge, but just saying...
>>
>> Mal
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

Bimlas,

Understood. Thanks so much for looking at this. I will match your work with 
mode detailed study of IntenceDebate hosting and membership etc...

Commento.io allows self serving although currently only on Linux, enabling 
an independent environment which is a positive, but a node solution may be 
better for some hosting.

It looks like commenting is a big area of its own. After obtaining a few 
coimenting possibilities the community should compare, contrast, evaluate 
etc... and see if we can identify the key solutions. 

Regards
Tony 

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 09:44:10 UTC+11, bimlas wrote:
>
> Jack, Tony,
>
> I would love to handle all the comment management services in a single 
> plugin, but I'm afraid that they are very different in terms of 
> operation. I could compare it to the task of implementing a common 
> interface for Wikipedia, ZimWiki, and TiddlyWiki. Practically they are just 
> like each one is a kind of wiki.
>
> BTW thank you for Commento.io, I will have a look at it.
>
> For the time being I am trying to implement the IntenseDebate plugin, 
> although I see that it will not be perfect: there can be no more different 
> counters on the page, there can only be one, so I cannot show at the bottom 
> of the tiddlers how many comments they have written to them. Not sure if it 
> will work at all, but I do everything I can.
>

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[tw5] Re: A Little challenge - Searching for numbers "within" a range

Mal,

That was my first thought, but I learned while "valid post codes exist in a 
range, not all postcodes in that range exist". If I manufacture postcodes I 
may be giving an undue suggestion that the post code is valid, but I 
suppose we are doing that anyway.

I may still take that approach, and use the range operator to generate them

Tony

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 10:07:20 UTC+11, Mal wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> I would be inclined to expand each list of postcodes and put them in a 
> list field.  This would allow really simple search code and the resulting 
> tiddler would not be all that large.
>
> I know this was not your challenge, but just saying...
>
> Mal
>
>

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[tw5] Re: A Little challenge - Searching for numbers "within" a range

2019-02-19 Thread Mal

Hi Tony,

I would be inclined to expand each list of postcodes and put them in a list 
field.  This would allow really simple search code and the resulting tiddler 
would not be all that large.

I know this was not your challenge, but just saying...

Mal

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

BTC

Good work, and moving it to a story view is a great approach, I believe it 
may extend the use and applicability because it has less impact.

With my big screen at home laying out the tiles looks fantastic, yet my 
thoughts immediately come to the possibility of being able to toggle at 
least three view template states

   1. The Current full tiddler
   2. Removing the toolbars and subtitle leaving only the title
   3. Removing all "tiddler chrome" including the title to show only the 
   content

In each case still enabling drag and drop, even a tiddler by tiddler toggle 
between the three states above (Whilst hiding the toggle mechanism unless 
hover or click?)

Finally for presentations if there could be a highlight on mouse hover it 
would be easy to show the audience where the focus should be.

I can see using the option 3 above to display a dashboard of dashboards

Only in the spirit of improvement, these suggestions in no way undermine 
how valuable the tool already is, thanks so much.

Regards
Tony

On Tuesday, 19 February 2019 06:39:28 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>
> First draft, testing prerelease, version 0.0.1 of the Muuri StoryView 
> plugin
> I hope that 0.0.2 / 0.0.3 can be a first stable release
>
> Besides of older browsers and more unknown ones I hope there's good 
> browser support - this draft should show over time where the problems are
>
> Older versions with similar or the same functionality were named 
> "TiddlyTouch", "MuuriTouch" etc.
>
> Now it's simply called the "Muuri StoryView" since it's just that, a 
> storyview that can be used with list widgets
> (MuuriTouch / TiddlyTouch were relying on a muuri widget, which is 
> complicated and removed)
>
>
> https://burningtreec.github.io/tw5-muuri-view
>
>
> One of the starting tiddlers contains a list of issues regarding some ui 
> problems
>
> I'll update that tiddler when there are more issues arising
>
>
> Whoever is interested in testing this, please try it in a safe wiki, make 
> a copy of the original one, use an empty wiki, don't risk loosing your work 
> through a mistake
>
>
> I really hope it already works as fine crossbrowser as it does on my linux 
> machine using chrome and firefox
>
> I'm especially interested in feedback by Safari users ... does it throw 
> errors, does it run smoothly etc ...
>
>
> If everything works - Experimenting time! I believe that many nice things 
> can be created with this
>
>
> all the best with a jodler,
> btc
>

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[tw5] Re: [theme] Presenting "Mono" theme

2019-02-19 Thread Damon Pritchett

Hi JD,

I found the problem with the bullets for your mono theme. Under the ul, li 
elements, the overflow was set to hidden. Setting this to visible restored 
the bullets. Was there a particular reason you had it set that way? Would 
that change or any of the others I suggested above break anything?

Thanks,

Damon

On Wednesday, February 6, 2019 at 9:56:56 AM UTC-7, JD wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thanks for the feedback and bug reports!
>
> I'll try to have an update soon-ish, I'm having a rather busy week. 
> Hopefully nothing gets broken with the next update!
>
> -jd
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 4, 2019 at 8:08:01 AM UTC+9, JD wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> JD here, offering a kind of stark theme that incorporates my most 
>> personal needs for a writing interface:
>>
>> [x] Sidebar to the <- left
>> [x] Built-in mobile layout
>> [x] Centered story river (when sidebar is closed)
>> [x] Sidebar segments visibility toggler at Control Panel 
>> [x] TopLeftBar buttons visibility toggler at Control Panel 
>> [x] EmptyStoryMessage template
>> [x] Splashcreen template
>> [x] TiddlerFrame style
>> [x] AdvancedSearch tabs on TopRightBar searchbar
>> [x] TopRightBar searchbar you can create a tiddler from like NTFS or NTFS19
>> [x] Font scroller button
>> [x] Day/night palete switcher button
>>
>>
>> *Here is the main conceit of the mobile UI:*
>>
>> The main change has been to TopBarLeft and TopBarRight. They are still 
>> separated, but are now contained in a wrapper, like this:
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>> (items tagged $:/tags/TopLeftBar)
>> 
>> 
>> (items tagged $:/tags/TopRightBar)
>> 
>> 
>>
>>
>> On desktop, the wrapper, tc-topbar, is by default arranged in a row... 
>> but on mobile it has this: flex-wrap: wrap;... so if tc-topbar-left has 
>> width: 
>> 100%;, tc-topbar-right will automatically be stacked below it.
>>
>>
>> By combining the left and right topbars, the special class 
>> tc-adjust-top-of-scroll is now incorporated to both 
>> the TopBarLeft and TopBarRight templates. This is especially useful for 
>> mobile UI.
>>
>>
>> I might extract just this bit into the next iteration of my MobilePlugin, 
>> albeit it will only be for TW5.1.19 and above.
>>
>>
>> You can try it out, and install from here:
>>
>>
>> http://j.d.mono.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>>
>> A future update would be this:
>>
>>
>> [ ] hoverable buttons <- for next update
>>
>> [ ] hoverable topbar on desktop <- for next update
>>
>>  and some other stuff I'm forgetting right now
>>
>>
>> I've been using this with BTC's app, and it works so nice so I'm sharing 
>> this with you all :D
>>
>>
>> -jd
>>
>>
>> P.S.: 
>>
>>
>> Shoutout to BTC and his amazing development! I love it and it's great 
>> with an automatic GoogleDrive android->desktop syncer
>>
>>
>> Thank you everyone for the inspiration!
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [theme] Presenting "Mono" theme

2019-02-19 Thread E Browns

Hi Jeremy,

Thank you!

I  wonder if I have to convert some colors for that? Some of these palettes
use rgba colors with opacities, which might not be compatible with some
browsers.

And also, I don't know how to actually request something be put into the
core, nor the naming convention for a palette that isn't attached to a
theme. 

-jd

On Tue, Feb 19, 2019, 21:18 Jeremy Ruston  Hi JD
>
> These are great. I'd be interested in having them in the core: most of us
> struggle to make palettes that are effective, and yet they are quite small.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> --
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> jer...@jermolene.com
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 18 Feb 2019, at 15:28, E Browns  wrote:
>
> http://j.d.palette.tiddlyspot.com/Hi BTC,
>
> Thank you! Spartan Day and Night are my actual favorites.
>
> It's not a problem for me to update http://j.d.palette.tiddlyspot.com/
> with your suggestion, as I constantly change my personal copy of the
> palette anyway (I tend towards redder colors more, recently. Sometimes
> harsh white accents when the mood strikes)
>
> -jd
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 8:17 PM BurningTreeC 
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>> Hi JD, forgive me that I'm using this thread for something not directly
>> related:
>>
>>
>> I like your palettes a lot and often happen to just drag one over to one
>> of my wikies, especially the spartan night palette
>> There's one stopper that needs me to add a line of css for the spartan
>> night palette every time, it's the color of the tc-tiddlylink buttons and
>> a-tags
>>
>> I use a slightly more readable color for them (#5656f3;)
>>
>>
>> Would you mind giving it a shot if it also improves readability for you?
>> I think it would improve the palette a lot
>>
>> all the best,
>> btc
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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

Jack, Tony,

I would love to handle all the comment management services in a single 
plugin, but I'm afraid that they are very different in terms of 
operation. I could compare it to the task of implementing a common 
interface for Wikipedia, ZimWiki, and TiddlyWiki. Practically they are just 
like each one is a kind of wiki.

BTW thank you for Commento.io, I will have a look at it.

For the time being I am trying to implement the IntenseDebate plugin, 
although I see that it will not be perfect: there can be no more different 
counters on the page, there can only be one, so I cannot show at the bottom 
of the tiddlers how many comments they have written to them. Not sure if it 
will work at all, but I do everything I can.

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Re: [tw5] Re: TIDDLYMAP: Would it be possible to trigger other actions when doublecliccking a node in the map.

2019-02-19 Thread Jan

Hi Tony,
thanks for your answer.
Unluckily this seems to be within the .js-tiddlers so that I can not
figure out how to change this. The clicks on edges are configurable the
clicks on nodes are not.

It would be nice to have a switch here too.

Yours Jan

Am 19.02.2019 um 04:07 schrieb TonyM:

Jan,

I do not know the answer as I do not currently use tiddlymap. However
if you can find <$button widgets that define what happens on clicking
a node you could change or add action widgets including action
sendmessage(s). The only issue is that you may be changing this from a
default behaviour which is essential to make tiddlymap work. Where
what you may need is a popup on click so you can choose your new
actions vs the default actions.

Regards
Tony

On Monday, 18 February 2019 21:20:29 UTC+11, Jan wrote:

Dear Fans of Tiddlymap.
especially when Tiddlymap is in Fullscreen it would be nice to
configure
doubleklicking a node to trigger different actions e.g. Displaying
the
Tiddlercontent in a Modal.
Is it possible to do this without touching the
javascript-Tiddlers? What
would have to be changed?

Thanks for your Help
Jan

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[tw5] Re: A Little challenge - Searching for numbers "within" a range

Mark,

Thanks for that suggestion, and the juggling to test for a value. Since I 
expect users to update it, the range when. Setting a single value will need to 
be hidden from them.

You have made me think that a data tiddler for each group eg CBD may work.

I discovered an inconsistency in the data which makes me question if I will 
need to validate the data before or on update which makes it a little more 
complex like detect an overlapping range.

I do know australia post offers postcode selection tools, perhaps I should look 
there.

Lets see if there are more ideas.

Thanks
Tony

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[tw5] Re: A Little challenge - Searching for numbers "within" a range



You could put each range in it's own field as a comma separated value in 
its own tiddler and tagged as needed. Individual values would also be 
entered as ranges. For instance

title: range 1
range: 1100,1299
tags: CBD

title: range 2
range: 2000,2000
tags: CBD

Then this code could compile the ranges on the fly and test for whether a 
value was in a group of ranges

<$vars pre="[range[" sfx="]] " mynum="1200">
<$list filter="[tag[CBD]get[range]addprefixaddsuffix]" 
variable="ranges">
<$list filter="[subfiltersuffixprefix]">IN 
RANGE




Maybe?

-- Mark



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>
> Folks,
>
> I thought I would share a little challenge with you. This is a challenge I 
> will overcome, and I will share my ultimate solution, but I am happy if 
> someone wants to contribute, or enjoys an intellectual/coding challenge.
>
> I Have a range of locations, they are defined by post codes / Zip codes, 
> sometimes they are a range and sometimes individual numbers
>
> ☐ Sydney Metro: 1000 - 1335 , 2760 -2770 
> ☐ Sydney CBD: 1100 - 1299, 2000, 2001, 2007, 2009
>
> I am keen to keep it simple, and not need to generate all the numbers 
> within a range yet I need to be able to search for a specific number. 
>
> For example If I was to search for 1100 it would clearly be in the above 
> range 1000 - 1335 yet 1100 is not in the posts codes, it exists between two 
> post codes.
>
> My Thought is to have a Filter that defines the post codes in range such 
> as;
> "[range[1000,1099]] [range[2760,2770]]"
>
> and 
>
> "[range[1100,1299]] 2000 2001 2007 2009"
>
> Not withstanding the inconsistencies in the above data (to be remedied)  I 
> would like to be able to search for a number that may be specified 
> specifically or implied in a range, and identify the tiddler in which it is 
> listed.
>
> I have a few ideas, but wondering if anyone has a great idea?
>
>
>- Generate a Data Tiddler with all postcodes from my ranges, key 
>number value region tiddler
>- When searching re-generate all numbers and search there in
>
>
> Regards
> tony
>
>  
>
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Re: [tw5] The Muuri StoryView is back

2019-02-19 Thread Jan


Am 19.02.2019 um 15:50 schrieb BurningTreeC:
Maybe I'll concentrate on finishing that one and making it universally 
usable - and others can be created later, by other people, using it as 
an example


That would be absolutely greet! Suberbe...

For my usecase (emulating padlet) it would be fantastic if you could get 
the scalability of the frame into movable-widget...but I don't want to 
be to demanding.


Ahoi Jan.

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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

2019-02-19 Thread Thomas Elmiger

Mohammad, here’s a version that works.

Note: There seems to be a bug in the documentation of 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-close-tiddler where *param* 
is a parameter instead of *$param* (?)

<$button> Do it
<$list filter="[range[1,3]]" variable="item">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags="uu"/>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" 
$param={{{[has[draft.of]field:draft.of]}}}/>



tm-new-tiddler also has a param where you can give a template. 

The action-setfield method from Mark and FrD looks also interesting, but is 
maybe a bit less readable if you come back to it after a few years.

Good luck!
Thomas

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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

2019-02-19 Thread FrD



Le mardi 19 février 2019 20:06:52 UTC+1, Mohammad a écrit :
>
> Hi Mark,
> Yes, but I have to iterate over all fields. 
>

Hi,

No, you don't have to iterate over the fields ; it clones the template and 
gives the clone the title you pass.

Regards

FrD

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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

Why do you need to iterate the fields? When you make a clone by renaming 
the title, all the fields get cloned too. Or at least that's what happened 
in my test.

Thanks!
-- Mark

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 11:06:52 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Mark,
> Yes, but I have to iterate over all fields. By the way I found something 
> through this question that seems buggy
>
> <$button> Do it
> <$list filter="[range[1,10]]" variable=item>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags="uu">
> 
> 
>
>
> No go to Advanced serach /Filter and type
>
> [tag[uu]]
>
>
> and click on the Delete button (trash bin)
>
> All draft tiddlers remain open with no title, tgas, 
>
> What happened?
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 10:01:20 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Per FrD 
>>
>> Create a unique title (possibly title plus date stamp). 
>> Use action-setfield to create new tiddler with the new, unique title.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 3:14:17 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>  Thanks FrD, the problem is it will overwrite the existing tiddlers. I 
>>> am looking to see how to clone as Tony said in his post.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:03:53 PM UTC+3:30, FrD wrote:

 Hi,

 Have a look at :

 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/swbra9EhOm4/dQk3YpsPAQAJ

 Delete the part where you remove a field. The drawback is that you need 
 to know the new title.

 Regards

 FrD

 Le mardi 19 février 2019 09:49:21 UTC+1, Mohammad a écrit :
>
> How is it possible to clone a tiddler without navigation to it?
>
>
>1. use the tm-new-tiddler
>   - issue: open the tiddler in the story river, not good for bulk 
>   cloning
>2. use the action action-createtiddler
>   - issue: has to iterate over all fields and copy one by one to 
>   the new tiddler, performance issue not simple
>
> What do you propose? Any better solution?
>
> Ref: TonyM: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/WsiLG2xTViM/DO5NdudQBQAJ
>
>
> --Mohammad
>


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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

Seems this work to clone a tiddler batchwise

\define clone(newTid,Template)
<$action-createtiddler $basetitle=$newTid$ $savetitle="temp" />
<$list filter="[<__Template__>fields[]] -title" variable=fname >
<$set name="fval" tiddler=<<__Template__>> field=<> >
<$action-setfield $tiddler={{temp}} $field=<> $value=<> />


\end

Example

<$button>Clone me
<$list filter="[range[1,5]addprefix[a00]]">
<$macrocall $name=clone newTid=<> Template=testTemplate />




where testTemplate  is a sample tiddler with many fileds, tags, text has 
been cloned.


--Mohammad


On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 12:19:21 PM UTC+3:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> How is it possible to clone a tiddler without navigation to it?
>
>
>1. use the tm-new-tiddler
>   - issue: open the tiddler in the story river, not good for bulk 
>   cloning
>2. use the action action-createtiddler
>   - issue: has to iterate over all fields and copy one by one to the 
>   new tiddler, performance issue not simple
>
> What do you propose? Any better solution?
>
> Ref: TonyM: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/WsiLG2xTViM/DO5NdudQBQAJ
>
>
> --Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

Hi Mark,
Yes, but I have to iterate over all fields. By the way I found something 
through this question that seems buggy

<$button> Do it
<$list filter="[range[1,10]]" variable=item>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags="uu">




No go to Advanced serach /Filter and type

[tag[uu]]


and click on the Delete button (trash bin)

All draft tiddlers remain open with no title, tgas, 

What happened?

--Mohammad


On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 10:01:20 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Per FrD 
>
> Create a unique title (possibly title plus date stamp). 
> Use action-setfield to create new tiddler with the new, unique title.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 3:14:17 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>  Thanks FrD, the problem is it will overwrite the existing tiddlers. I am 
>> looking to see how to clone as Tony said in his post.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:03:53 PM UTC+3:30, FrD wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Have a look at :
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/swbra9EhOm4/dQk3YpsPAQAJ
>>>
>>> Delete the part where you remove a field. The drawback is that you need 
>>> to know the new title.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> FrD
>>>
>>> Le mardi 19 février 2019 09:49:21 UTC+1, Mohammad a écrit :

 How is it possible to clone a tiddler without navigation to it?


1. use the tm-new-tiddler
   - issue: open the tiddler in the story river, not good for bulk 
   cloning
2. use the action action-createtiddler
   - issue: has to iterate over all fields and copy one by one to 
   the new tiddler, performance issue not simple

 What do you propose? Any better solution?

 Ref: TonyM: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/WsiLG2xTViM/DO5NdudQBQAJ


 --Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

Hi Thomas,
 This does not work


<$button> Do it
<$list filter="[range[1,10]]" variable=item>
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-new-tiddler" title=<> tags="uu">
<$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" param=<>/>







On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 8:26:55 PM UTC+3:30, Thomas Elmiger wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> You could try to use your first option (tm-new-tiddler) followed by a 
> tm-close-tiddler action.
>
> Did you already try that? 
>
> Good luck, 
> Thomas 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Days operator offset by 1 day in timezones west of GMT

I did mention there were fringe cases. The kludge covers about 99% of real 
life cases.  But the tweak would be, if you happen to be someone in one of 
those fringe areas who wants to roll their own dates then use an offset 
value that puts you back on the same day. For instance, if you live in TZ 
+14, you can use any offset hour between 15 and 23, so just use 15. Those 
really are the outer fringes. If you live in that part of NZ with TZ+12:45 
then you can use offset 13. 

-- Mark

On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 9:24:44 PM UTC-8, Hubert wrote:
>
> Thank you for your responses, Mark and Tony.
>  
>
>> I think you're talking about using your own dates, in the short form e.g. 
>> 20190216. Because you don't use all the digits of the time, TW pads the 
>> number and assumes that it is 201902160 or midnight GMT. Since  at 
>> midnight GMT, it's still the 15th on days west of timezone GMT, the days 
>> operator doesn't show it.
>>
>
> Yes, that's exactly what I was talking about.
>
> A solution with mmdd1200 or mmdd9 might work in most cases but is 
> not universal. The reason being, time zones stretch up to -12 hours from 
> (behind) UTC if we move west of GMT (so an added offset of 1200 could work 
> here), however the time zone farthest to the east of GMT has an offset of 
> +14 hours, which could then shift the date once again, this time in the 
> other direction (even part of New Zealand is +12:45 as per this Wikipedia 
> article ; 
> so, it's not just a case of scarcely populated islands).
>
> Adding artificial offsets to dates has no 'safe margin' because the sum of 
> all the time zone offsets appears to be 26 hours. Either way, there is 
> going to be an inaccurate date interpretation by the days filter operator, 
> whether that's 1 day behind or 1 day ahead.
>
> Thanks,
> Hubert
>
>
> On Sunday, 17 February 2019 14:11:16 UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Are we still talking about rolling our own dates?
>>
>> I think 12 would work almost everywhere (there might be some fringe 
>> cases).
>>  
>> Yes a single minute can make a difference for bills, taxes, assignments. 
>> Which is why the deadline time is often at midnight, so there's a great 
>> deal of overlap with actual waking hours. What annoys me is a certain 
>> cloud-based service that resets subscriptions per a different timezone, 
>> even though I'm in the same timezone as the corporate office. Apparently 
>> wherever the server is located becomes the time standard.
>>
>> -- Mark
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 16, 2019 at 10:32:01 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Mark,
>>>
>>> I wonder if it makes sence setting a date only actualy to midday, 
>>> mmdd1200
>>>
>>> This possibly can be done within the date format. If its 00:04 do we 
>>> realy think 5 mins ago was a day ago when a day implies 24 hours?
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

Per FrD 

Create a unique title (possibly title plus date stamp). 
Use action-setfield to create new tiddler with the new, unique title.

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On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 3:14:17 AM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi,
>  Thanks FrD, the problem is it will overwrite the existing tiddlers. I am 
> looking to see how to clone as Tony said in his post.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
> On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:03:53 PM UTC+3:30, FrD wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Have a look at :
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/swbra9EhOm4/dQk3YpsPAQAJ
>>
>> Delete the part where you remove a field. The drawback is that you need 
>> to know the new title.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> FrD
>>
>> Le mardi 19 février 2019 09:49:21 UTC+1, Mohammad a écrit :
>>>
>>> How is it possible to clone a tiddler without navigation to it?
>>>
>>>
>>>1. use the tm-new-tiddler
>>>   - issue: open the tiddler in the story river, not good for bulk 
>>>   cloning
>>>2. use the action action-createtiddler
>>>   - issue: has to iterate over all fields and copy one by one to 
>>>   the new tiddler, performance issue not simple
>>>
>>> What do you propose? Any better solution?
>>>
>>> Ref: TonyM: 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/WsiLG2xTViM/DO5NdudQBQAJ
>>>
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] formatting macro breaks backlinks: alternatives?

2019-02-19 Thread PMario



On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:10:09 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> 
> One possible JavaScirpt approach to fixing this might be to make a plugin 
> that replaces the link detection code in wiki.getTiddlerLinks() and detects 
> invocations of "myMacro" instead or as well as looking for invocations of 
> the link widget.
>

That's exactly, what the alias-backlink handling in the uni-link plugin 
does. ... 

It also replaces standard links like: [[standard link]] with an 
<> macro .. BUT the backlink detection here is also a bit 
hacky. :/ And at the moment, It can't handle backlinks as described in the 
OP. 

I'll need to think about it. ... 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Cloning a Tiddler

Hi Thomas,
No I did not. I thought opening and closing toddler may cause flittering.
But I will try.
Cheers
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[tw5] Cloning a Tiddler

2019-02-19 Thread Thomas Elmiger

Hi Mohammad,

You could try to use your first option (tm-new-tiddler) followed by a 
tm-close-tiddler action.

Did you already try that? 

Good luck, 
Thomas 

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: Unilink idea for Mario

2019-02-19 Thread PMario

On Wednesday, March 28, 2018 at 1:59:38 AM UTC+2, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Thanks Mario. I have a feeling node.js is the only way to do this.
>

Hi David, 
Sorry for the delayed response. ...

 - If you export single tiddlers within a file TW, links are created as 
anchors. ... As you found out.
 - If you export all tiddlers with a tiddlywiki editions/xxx --build static 
command, links are created with href setting that you expected. 

see: static setting in tiddlywiki.info 


have fun!
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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

2019-02-19 Thread Jack Baty

Commento.io is indeed quite nice. I was hoping to replace Disqus, and after 
looking at several commenting systems, I recently settled on Commento. The 
developer is concerned about privacy, and is reachable and responsive. I 
also find that the Commento UI is rather less "busy" than either Disqus or 
IntenseDebate.

The Disqus plugin by Bimlas is very cool and does a really nice job of 
integrating with TW. For Disqus users it's terrific.

I wonder if there's a way to abstract parts of the plugin in order to make 
it more easily portable for use with non-Disqus commenting systems.

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 7:17:45 AM UTC-5, Sylvain Naudin wrote:
>
>
>
> Le mardi 19 février 2019 11:29:02 UTC+1, TonyM a écrit :
>>
>> Bimlas,
>>
>> No pressure, thanks if you can, no problem if you cant.
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> Tony
>>
>
> Hi Bimlas,
>
> Like Tony about privacy concern / tierd party / closed source /etc.. if 
> you work on FLOSS alternative, I'll be happy with that :)
>
> As a paid cloud service, *Commento* sound great (https://commento.io/ - 
> https://docs.commento.io/)
> Also *Isso* (https://posativ.org/isso/).
>
> But congrats for the Discuss plugin by the way :)
>
> Cheers,
> Sylvain
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[tw5] Re: formatting macro breaks backlinks: alternatives?

2019-02-19 Thread Linda Moss

On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 6:47:13 PM UTC-5, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi Linda, 
>
> How does you macro look like?
>
> -mario
>

@PMario --

Enter code here...
\define mySource(source:"")
@@.my-custom-source-header
 $source$
@@

\end

(originally with double-brackets around the $source$) And then the CSS file 
applies block-level formatting to make the entire line slightly colored and 
slightly darker than the background, in order to create a visual break 
which makes it easier for me to read, and set the bottom border of the 
heading to slightly darker than that.

I think I'm making this more complicated than it needs to be, and I should 
just add a link below the header rather than linking the header. (Not sure 
why it hadn't occurred to me to separate them before. But @Jeremy, I'll 
definitely keep that hack in mind, in case the redundancy really starts to 
bother me. :)

Thanks everyone!

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Re: [tw5] Re: Applying tags to a list of tiddlers?

2019-02-19 Thread stefano franchi

Thanks to everyone for the help.
The analogous of list comprehension is exactly what I I was looking for and
I had missed the  $fieldmangler  widget plays.
Things are slowly starting to become clearer...

Cheers,

S.


On Sun, Feb 17, 2019 at 4:07 PM Jed Carty  wrote:

> As an explanation of what is going on (node the added button, this doesn't do 
> anything with the button):
>
>
> <$button>
>
> Add tags
>
> <$list filter=<>>
> <$fieldmangler>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-add-tag" $param=<<__newTag__>> />
> 
> 
>
> 
>
>
> The list widget makes a list, one way to think about it is as iterating over 
> a loop, but if you are familiar with some programming it is more accurately 
> list comprehension similar to python (I think also erlang and haskell, it has 
> been a while. Many other languages probably use the same concept).
>
>
> So a possibly way too detailed description of the list widget:
>
>
> The filter creates a list of titles
>
> The template between the opening and closing tags for the $list widget is 
> applied to each title returned by the filter
>
> The results are output in the same order as the titles in the list
>
>
> The $fieldmangler widget is magic, it is mostly left over from a previous 
> version of how we thought tiddlywiki was going to work. Mostly it lets you 
> add tags without overwriting the tags field. This is the only time when it is 
> required or that there isn't a simpler way to do it. The magic is that it 
> lets you edit fields, but that was before the action widgets became the main 
> tool for changing tiddlers so it is less useful now.
>
>
> The $action-sendmessage widget is a way that the older message-based changes 
> to the wiki are used with the newer action widgets. It was a more 
> conceptually complex system, I suggest that you just accept the magic for now 
> and come back to that part later. Just treat the combination of $fieldmangler 
> and $action-setfield widgets in this context like an action widget that lets 
> you add a tag to a tiddler.
>
>
> Then, if you wrap that whole thing in a button, the result is a button that 
> activates a list of action widgets, each action widget adds a tag to one 
> tiddler.
>
>
> Hopefully that is understandable and not too rambling.
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Re: [tw5] The Muuri StoryView is back

2019-02-19 Thread BurningTreeC


>
> Hello Simon, 
>> > I'm not planning to release any new hammer widget soon, 
>> That is a pitty, I really was hoping for a version of the movable-widget 
>> which I can import to my Wiki. So far I just got it to work by modifing 
>> your Demo, I really don't know what was missing. 
>> I looked at Brians Documentation which is indeed very fine...but I fear 
>> a major step like the hammer-widget this will take me months. 
>>
>> Best Wishes Jan 
>>
>>
> Hi Jan,
>
> the movable widget is really close to being very usable, that's true
>
> Maybe I'll concentrate on finishing that one and making in universally 
> usable and others can created later, by others, using it as an example
> I'll have a look if I can do it without spending too much time
>  
>

Wow, that's not good german, even I don't understand what I wrote

 Maybe I'll concentrate on finishing that one and making it universally 
usable - and others can be created later, by other people, using it as an 
example

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Re: [tw5] Re: [theme] Presenting "Mono" theme

Hi JD

These are great. I'd be interested in having them in the core: most of us 
struggle to make palettes that are effective, and yet they are quite small.

Best wishes

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> On 18 Feb 2019, at 15:28, E Browns  wrote:
> 
> http://j.d.palette.tiddlyspot.com/Hi BTC,
> 
> Thank you! Spartan Day and Night are my actual favorites. 
> 
> It's not a problem for me to update http://j.d.palette.tiddlyspot.com/ with 
> your suggestion, as I constantly change my personal copy of the palette 
> anyway (I tend towards redder colors more, recently. Sometimes harsh white 
> accents when the mood strikes)
> 
> -jd
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 8:17 PM BurningTreeC  
>> wrote:
>> Hi JD, forgive me that I'm using this thread for something not directly 
>> related:
>> 
>> 
>> I like your palettes a lot and often happen to just drag one over to one of 
>> my wikies, especially the spartan night palette
>> There's one stopper that needs me to add a line of css for the spartan night 
>> palette every time, it's the color of the tc-tiddlylink buttons and a-tags
>> 
>> I use a slightly more readable color for them (#5656f3;)
>> 
>> 
>> Would you mind giving it a shot if it also improves readability for you? I 
>> think it would improve the palette a lot
>> 
>> all the best,
>> btc
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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

2019-02-19 Thread Sylvain Naudin



Le mardi 19 février 2019 11:29:02 UTC+1, TonyM a écrit :
>
> Bimlas,
>
> No pressure, thanks if you can, no problem if you cant.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Tony
>

Hi Bimlas,

Like Tony about privacy concern / tierd party / closed source /etc.. if you 
work on FLOSS alternative, I'll be happy with that :)

As a paid cloud service, *Commento* sound great (https://commento.io/ - 
https://docs.commento.io/)
Also *Isso* (https://posativ.org/isso/).

But congrats for the Discuss plugin by the way :)

Cheers,
Sylvain

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Re: [tw5] formatting macro breaks backlinks: alternatives?

Hi Linda

The mechanism for tracking links for backlinks, missing and orphan tiddlers is 
pretty simplistic for performance reasons. It parses each tiddler and looks for 
direct links within it. Computed links that are only resolved at render time 
will not be detected. To track computed links we'd have to render every tiddler 
to find them, and rendering is slow.

One possible JavaScirpt approach to fixing this might be to make a plugin that 
replaces the link detection code in wiki.getTiddlerLinks() and detects 
invocations of "myMacro" instead or as well as looking for invocations of the 
link widget.

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> On 18 Feb 2019, at 19:40, Linda Moss  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> There's a certain kind of link I wanted formatted a certain way, so I created 
> a macro:
> 
> <>
> 
> which applied the necessary formatting. 
> 
> But of course, this broke all my backlinks. So I changed it to:
> 
> <>
> 
> but because the link is an argument to a macro, it is still unrecognized, and 
> my backlinks are still broken.
> 
> Is there a way to apply formatting to a certain kind of link (without putting 
> the formatting inline every single time) and still have the backlinks work?
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> PS: I also went down a rabbit trail of trying to regain the backlinks by way 
> of a macro calling a list filtered with "[!is[system]regexp:text[$term$]]", 
> because the text of these links is unlikely to appear anywhere other than the 
> title of the linked tiddler and places intentionally referencing that title. 
> However, most of these links would need to be escaped, and I couldn't figure 
> out how to get escaperegexp[] to work inside the filter to escape $term$ 
> before it was searched. 
> 
> Now, starting fresh, I might name all the tiddlers that would be receiving 
> such a link so as to prevent the need for escaperegexp[], but as it stands, 
> there are over a thousand of them, (and they follow a specific naming 
> convention that other things are based).
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Re: [tw5] The Muuri StoryView is back

2019-02-19 Thread BurningTreeC


>
> Hello Simon, 
> > I'm not planning to release any new hammer widget soon, 
> That is a pitty, I really was hoping for a version of the movable-widget 
> which I can import to my Wiki. So far I just got it to work by modifing 
> your Demo, I really don't know what was missing. 
> I looked at Brians Documentation which is indeed very fine...but I fear 
> a major step like the hammer-widget this will take me months. 
>
> Best Wishes Jan 
>
>
Hi Jan,

the movable widget is really close to being very usable, that's true

Maybe I'll concentrate on finishing that one and making in universally 
usable and others can created later, by others, using it as an example
I'll have a look if I can do it without spending too much time
 

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[tw5] Re: [Satire] - sometimes you just want to suppress ...

2019-02-19 Thread BurningTreeC


>
> BTC, I understand your fetish for technology. See you in Room 9 at 9am.
>

I don't get this, where is room 9, I was there at 9am today but there were 
only rooms 1 - 6


> On Monday, 18 February 2019 22:29:59 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> BurningTreeC wrote:

 ... I'd like to gather some real-life usecases for widgets that can 
 suppress stuff

>>>
>>> I'd like to suppress the entire Filtering Machine ... J.
>>>
>>
>> :D WHY isn't it/she/he amazingly awesomely amazing ... ? 
>>
>>>
>>> [image: heathrobinson.jpg]
>>>
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Who can I thank for Math operators?

2019-02-19 Thread Mal

That's great Jeremy.  Thanks for the explanation.

Regards,

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Re: [tw5] Possibilities of using Google Apps Scripts?

Hi Chun

> As I have been using Google Apps Scripts (GAS) and knowing TiddlyWiki for 
> about 1 year, I am trying to find out the possibilities of (re) writing 
> TiddlyWiki in GAS. The HTML services in GAS allows client side javascript, 
> CSS and HTML (https://developers.google.com/apps-script/guides/html). Google 
> Sheets might be a place to store (or keep a copy of) tiddlers, or be used to 
> produce a data tiddler. Google also has this 
> (https://developers.google.com/apps-script/api/quickstart/nodejs) to make 
> node.js commands to GAS API.  

Thanks! I think you are correct, there is a fascinating opportunity to make an 
adaptation of TW that is served by GAS and can save changes back to it. It 
would be a nice straightforward user experience too.

I think the easiest way to get started would be to create a new syncadaptor 
that loads and saves tiddlers via the GAS APIs. Then one could serve a blank TW 
file that includes that plugin, and at startup it would load the required 
tiddlers from the server. The next step might be to bake tiddlers into the HTML 
file when it is first served.

I'm not sure that I will personally have time to investigate this opportunity 
in the near future, but I'd be very happy to help guide other developers who 
might want to take up the challenge...

Best wishes

Jeremy




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> Did I misunderstand anything? Or this sounds like a plan? Sorry if I 
> overlooked the Copyright of Tiddlywiki as I don't intend to do so. 
> 
> Thanks!
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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

Hi,
 Thanks FrD, the problem is it will overwrite the existing tiddlers. I am 
looking to see how to clone as Tony said in his post.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 1:03:53 PM UTC+3:30, FrD wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Have a look at :
>
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/swbra9EhOm4/dQk3YpsPAQAJ
>
> Delete the part where you remove a field. The drawback is that you need to 
> know the new title.
>
> Regards
>
> FrD
>
> Le mardi 19 février 2019 09:49:21 UTC+1, Mohammad a écrit :
>>
>> How is it possible to clone a tiddler without navigation to it?
>>
>>
>>1. use the tm-new-tiddler
>>   - issue: open the tiddler in the story river, not good for bulk 
>>   cloning
>>2. use the action action-createtiddler
>>   - issue: has to iterate over all fields and copy one by one to the 
>>   new tiddler, performance issue not simple
>>
>> What do you propose? Any better solution?
>>
>> Ref: TonyM: 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/WsiLG2xTViM/DO5NdudQBQAJ
>>
>>
>> --Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Possibilities of using Google Apps Scripts?

2019-02-19 Thread CHUN LI

Thanks Tony. Where can I find the "application in the past of saving in 
Sheets"? Is it in Google Sheets?

On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 4:10:05 PM UTC+13, TonyM wrote:
>
> Chun,
>
> Thanks for your suggestion, I look forward to the feedback from other 
> community members. 
>
> Perhaps what is needed is not so much a rewrite of tiddlywiki but 
> integration with such Google Apps Scripts. 
>
> For example
>
>- The ability to include them in TiddlyWiki
>- Save Tiddlers/whole wikis to a Google App Storage
>   - I believe there has being an application in the past of saving in 
>   Sheets
>   - There are some people using TiddlyWiki on top of google drive
>- host tiddlywikis or databases of tiddlers on Google Platform
>- Include tiddlers that translate to standalone apps, or scripts 
>provided by GAS that interact with a Wiki
>- Adding Open ID to TiddlyWikis for Authorisation and user credentials
>- Perhaps adding such services into NodeJS for interaction with the 
>server implementations of TiddlyWiki
>- See also the Proposed Innerwiki plugin or the use of iFrames for 
>integration at arms length.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 12:13:37 PM UTC+11, CHUN LI wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> As I have been using Google Apps Scripts (GAS) and knowing TiddlyWiki for 
>> about 1 year, I am trying to find out the possibilities of (re) writing 
>> TiddlyWiki in GAS. The HTML services in GAS allows client side javascript, 
>> CSS and HTML (https://developers.google.com/apps-script/guides/html). 
>> Google Sheets might be a place to store (or keep a copy of) tiddlers, or be 
>> used to produce a data tiddler. Google also has this (
>> https://developers.google.com/apps-script/api/quickstart/nodejs) to make 
>> node.js commands to GAS API.  
>>  
>> Did I misunderstand anything? Or this sounds like a plan? Sorry if I 
>> overlooked the Copyright of Tiddlywiki as I don't intend to do so. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Chun 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

Bimlas,

No pressure, thanks if you can, no problem if you cant.

Thanks in advance
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

Josiah,

Sorry I have not had enought time for a full responce. Facebook is definitely 
not the only login method, my suspicion is we can use open ids.

Lets see how we go and make a call when more info is available and Bimlas 
identifies if it is easy or hard.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

Tony,

Ok, I think I'm gonna do it this week if I have enough time.

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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

2019-02-19 Thread FrD

Hi,

Have a look at :

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/swbra9EhOm4/dQk3YpsPAQAJ

Delete the part where you remove a field. The drawback is that you need to 
know the new title.

Regards

FrD

Le mardi 19 février 2019 09:49:21 UTC+1, Mohammad a écrit :
>
> How is it possible to clone a tiddler without navigation to it?
>
>
>1. use the tm-new-tiddler
>   - issue: open the tiddler in the story river, not good for bulk 
>   cloning
>2. use the action action-createtiddler
>   - issue: has to iterate over all fields and copy one by one to the 
>   new tiddler, performance issue not simple
>
> What do you propose? Any better solution?
>
> Ref: TonyM: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/WsiLG2xTViM/DO5NdudQBQAJ
>
>
> --Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

Bimlas,

I will use the disqus plugin, thanks so much, but if you can port the intence 
debate client I think it would would be a powerful alternative with a greater 
degree of independance from a proprietary solution and as it can connect to 
other blogs a potentialy greater audience.

I have to ask you because I do not know how, but I will support you where I 
can. I am also looking forward to the completion of widgets for dummies to 
start myself.

I am an advanced wordpress designer, so do I believe I can build the user 
database backend for tiddlywiki user registration.

Thanks
Tony

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Re: [tw5] Who can I thank for Math operators?

Hi Mal

> In another thread, there was some discussion about the split operator.  It 
> exhibits some interesting behaviour when using split[] with no arguments:
> it produces a list of single characters from the input string - this seems 
> like a sensible edge case behaviour.
Yes, it's exposing the way that the underlying JavaScript "split" function 
works, where it is a common idiom for working on the individual characters of a 
string.
> it does not exhibit the usual uniqueness property of filter lists - 
> duplicates are passed through to the output.
It's surprising but individual operators can return result lists with 
duplicates. The enforcement of uniqueness is performed when the result lists of 
multiple runs are merged. But there are also situations where the system 
assumes that duplicates have already been removed. For example, this returns 
"jeremy" as expected:

[[jeremy]split[]]  +[join[]]

But this returns "jremye":

[[jeremy]split[]] e +[join[]]

The subtlety is that the additional run consisting of the letter "e" dedupes 
the first of the first letter "e", but fails to "see" the second".

> The output can include single space characters - this is tricky considering 
> lists are space delimited.
There's less mystery here: spaces are used for delimiting lists when they are 
serialised into a string, but internally lists are held as arrays.

> Are these behaviours by design and will continue to exist in the final 
> release of 5.1.20 and subsequent releases?  If so, the split operator can be 
> used for some useful string manipulation hacks.

Yes to both questions.

It's pretty clear now that the way that de-duplication is implemented was a 
mistake. I don't think we can fix it while retaining 100% backwards 
compatibility. As discussed in this ticket, I'm now of the opinion that we need 
to fix this:

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/3757

Best wishes

Jeremy

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[tw5] Cloning a Tiddler

Mohammad,

I previously created a nested list that generated a single variable containing 
fieldname=value fieldname2="value 2" that provided all field=value pairs.

Regards
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[tw5] Cloning a Tiddler

Mohammad,

There is an option when creating a tiddler to get the title of the new tiddler 
without navigating to it. See $savetitle
https://tiddlywiki.com/#ActionCreateTiddlerWidget and the differences with 
https://tiddlywiki.com/#WidgetMessage%3A%20tm-new-tiddler

Regards
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[tw5] Cloning a Tiddler

How is it possible to clone a tiddler without navigation to it?


   1. use the tm-new-tiddler
  - issue: open the tiddler in the story river, not good for bulk 
  cloning
   2. use the action action-createtiddler
  - issue: has to iterate over all fields and copy one by one to the 
  new tiddler, performance issue not simple
   
What do you propose? Any better solution?

Ref: 
TonyM: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/WsiLG2xTViM/DO5NdudQBQAJ


--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

Tony,

Would you like the Discorage plugin or will you talk to Josiah before?

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

Released the plugin, see announcement 
here: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/UyPX_qzPl8w/8QOgGjFUBQAJ

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[tw5] Re: Removing chars from tiddler title: issue with tiddler overwritting

Tony!
It absolutely worth to have a clone button to use a tiddler template.

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Released the Disqus comments plugin