[tw5] Re: is[missing] !is[tiddler]

[Mal]

Mohammad,


> So, for checking if a title is an existing tiddler what can I do
>
> [!is[tiddler]]   [is[missing]] [has[title]]
>
> I think you can use any of these to test if a tiddler already exists.  
When I put [[my tiddler title]!is[tiddler]] into Advanced Search/Filter, I 
get the output "my tiddler title" and, when I then create a tiddler with 
this title, I get no output.  This is all as expected according to the 
documentation for the "is" Operator.  Using "is[missing]" produces the same 
result.  Also, "!has[title]" or "!has[text]" seem to work just as well, 
although I think the first two are easier to interpret, so make the code a 
bit more readable.

Note that "is[tiddler]" and "is[missing]" treat shadow tiddlers as though 
they don't exist.  Which is OK because it is reasonable that you might want 
to create a tiddler to overwrite a shadow tiddler.  On the other hand, 
"has[title]" and "has[text]" don't ignore shadow tiddlers, so you need to 
decide which option suits your application.

Regards,

Mal

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[TonyM]

Sure, I will investigate myself, and perhaps see if other devs can help,
thanks so much for what we have.

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:35:35 PM UTC+11, bimlas wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> For the time being, it doesn't seem to me that I can fix it. :( Sorry.
>

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[tw5] Re: WikiText for Dummies

[TonyM]

I understand

It should read at least "Widgets always start with a <$" 

Another example could have

!Wikitext heading
*Bulleted item
*Bulleted item

<$button message="tm-close-tiddler">I'm {{!!title}} Click to Close Me! 


etc...

Good documentation is never so easy, but especially when coders and 
designers write it, because they are so familiar with the content, they 
make to many assumptions and always think it "obvious". It is people like 
yourself on this learning path who can provide the best documentation if 
people can help explain the gaps. Although sometimes the gaps are hard to 
bridge.

See my current work 
here 
https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/#Variables%2C%20Parameters%20and%20transclusions

Regards
Tony 





On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 4:25:35 PM UTC+11, S. S. wrote:
>
> Thanks Tony.
>
> I'm still confused as to why that particular example above was used. I 
> only see a Widget and no WikiText. I feel like my understanding is not 
> complete, and that makes it difficult for me to write confidently.
>
> This is the text used in that documentation tiddler:
>
>
> Furthermore the WikiText is used to access the widgets which are 
>> integrated in the application.These widgets are used to enhance the the 
>> WikiText with a rich functionality. Widgets are based on the HTML-Syntax 
>> but always starts with a $.
>>
>
> WikiText:
> <$button message="tm-close-tiddler">Close Me! 
>
>
> If instead this example had been used, it would make more sense to me:
>
> <$button message="tm-close-tiddler">I'm {{!!title}} Click to Close 
> Me! 
>
> I am beginning to understand how painstakingly careful one needs to be to 
> write accurate official documentation for software, even if its only for 
> the novice level. 
>
> I think I am finding it takes so much time because there is so much about 
> the software's complex  internals that are difficult to easily understand. 
> Thus, though it seems the topic is simple,  it's not so easy to present it 
> to a beginner while ensuring no language is used that infers "this is all 
> there is to it" - while also not burdening the reader with the more complex 
> concepts.
>
> Still, we are slowly getting there!
>
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 4:13:32 AM UTC+7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> S s
>>
>> Widgets are themselves placed in wiki text. 
>>
>> Because they have there own parameter and content rules we typically go 
>> on to discuss these, but skim over the fact they are placed in wikitext and 
>> often also contain wikitext between widget opening and closing tags.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[bimlas]

Tony,

For the time being, it doesn't seem to me that I can fix it. :( Sorry.

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[tw5] Re: Released the Disqus comments plugin

[bimlas]

Tony,

Can you write down the settings you used? Or could you send a preset wiki?

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[tw5] Re: WikiText for Dummies

[S. S.]

Thanks Tony.

I'm still confused as to why that particular example above was used. I only 
see a Widget and no WikiText. I feel like my understanding is not complete, 
and that makes it difficult for me to write confidently.

This is the text used in that documentation tiddler:


Furthermore the WikiText is used to access the widgets which are integrated 
> in the application.These widgets are used to enhance the the WikiText with 
> a rich functionality. Widgets are based on the HTML-Syntax but always 
> starts with a $.
>

WikiText:
<$button message="tm-close-tiddler">Close Me! 


If instead this example had been used, it would make more sense to me:

<$button message="tm-close-tiddler">I'm {{!!title}} Click to Close Me! 


I am beginning to understand how painstakingly careful one needs to be to 
write accurate official documentation for software, even if its only for 
the novice level. 

I think I am finding it takes so much time because there is so much about 
the software's complex  internals that are difficult to easily understand. 
Thus, though it seems the topic is simple,  it's not so easy to present it 
to a beginner while ensuring no language is used that infers "this is all 
there is to it" - while also not burdening the reader with the more complex 
concepts.

Still, we are slowly getting there!

On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 4:13:32 AM UTC+7, TonyM wrote:
>
> S s
>
> Widgets are themselves placed in wiki text. 
>
> Because they have there own parameter and content rules we typically go on 
> to discuss these, but skim over the fact they are placed in wikitext and 
> often also contain wikitext between widget opening and closing tags.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Variables, Parameters and transclusions - Cheat sheet RFC

[TonyM]

Folks,

I have a DRAFT copy of *Variables, Parameters and transclusions* - Cheat 
sheet - *Request For Comments*. With *Intense debate* Commenting.

*THIS IS NOT THE FINAL - BUT IS CLOSE*


   - Based on Tobiases original document, with input from Eric and Jeremy, 
   Mario and more over the years. *Any errors are mine alone.*
   - 
*Based on my own sometimes difficult struggle to comprehend the power and 
   details of TiddlyWiki *
   - I am inviting Feedback to refine this so if you are will versed in one 
   or more areas, or want to test the validity of an Item (Especially those 
   Marked TEST) please do so.
   - If you find an error please provide a code snipit that demonstrates 
   the error here or in the IntenceDebate Comments.

Content Headings for Variables, Parameters and transclusions
   
   - *Within wikiText*

  Shows what is valid in the body of a tiddler and wherever the content 
will be "wikified" (Eg Wikify or after transclusion)
   
   - *Within Filters*

  Shows what is valid inside filter statements in widgets and 'Filtered 
transclusions'.
   
   - *Within HTML and Widgets* - Parameters and Attributes

  HTML can be used in TiddlyWiki this shows how to use TiddlyWiki values 
in HTML tags / attributes
   
   - *Within HTML Content*

  This section is about what you can place between HTML tags
   
   - *Additional features within macro definitions / macro body*

*  That is what is valid on the line after /define macroname() or until 
the /end statement.*
   
   - *Within a Macro call or for a "macro parameter"*

  What is valid on a macrocall eg <> Within a 
Macro call or for a "macro parameter" ie calling macros, passing parameters 
to the macro
   
   - *Concatenating values for use in Macros and Widgets*

   If you read and understand everything documented here you will 
realise your instinct to try and concatenate more than one value will not 
work. Here we explain how to do this.
   
   - *Other special Cases*

 Evans Formulae plugin (you will need to install) introduces the 
mushroom brackets (= content =) which is a way to calculate a value which 
will then be substituted where the (= content =)is placed. 
 Since the values that can be calculated can also be transclusions 
or (Variables - not working as advertised) eg <> works.
   
   - *Core Variables*

A Small list of variables generated by the "Core" of TiddlyWiki
   
   - *Useful transclusions*

  A small set of useful transclusions populated by the "Core" of 
TiddlyWiki


*Intense Debate or this thread are used for feedback*

   - Do not open and close the Comments without pause or you will generate 
   an error (Just reload if you do)
   - Feel free to comment on the comment system as well

I will include a PDF to help tempt you, in the next comment, with 
up-to-date links, but remember it will be abridged soon.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Generate numbered list using list-tagged-draggable

[S. S.]

Submitted a desperate plea for including these parameters in the 
*list-tagged-draggable* macro.

You can read it here: list-tagged-draggable is upset 


Regards.

On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 11:42:18 AM UTC+7, TonyM wrote:
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> S S Thanks for helping "Pin", good work
>
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Generate numbered list using list-tagged-draggable

[TonyM]

S S Thanks for helping "Pin", good work

Tony

On Thursday, 21 February 2019 12:59:47 UTC+11, S. S. wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> You are right! The answer does lie in there 
> .
> Interestingly the *list-tagged-draggable* macro omits the *type* and 
> *subtype* parameter.
> I can't see much harm for including those.
> It only took a little modification, so I tried it out. Seems to work fine 
> so I've attached it here.
> Even though I believe it cannot do any damage, and you can always delete 
> it when done using it ...
> Please BACKUP your TiddlyWiki before using it!
> I think it deserves to be part of the normal function of the macro, so I 
> will put in that request.
>
> Thanks for bringing it up Pin Tail.
>
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:20:53 AM UTC+7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Pin,
>>
>> Since the ol and the html tag  are generated on display this 
>> will need to be regenerated on the fly at display time.
>>
>> Doing an advanced search list-tagged-draggable on tiddlywiki.com then 
>> the shadows tab, finds $:/core/macros/list
>>
>> Which contains the definition of both macros. I suggest you answer lies 
>> therein. Copy out the relevant macros and rename them placed in another 
>> tiddler tagged as a macro and modify it as needed. Ony copy the macros you 
>> want to modify because you new macro can use the existing ones as needed.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 21 February 2019 09:06:07 UTC+11, Pin Tail wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there any way to generate a numbered list using the 
>>> list-tagged-draggable macro? The similar list-links-draggable can generate 
>>> numbered lists by setting the type parameter to "ol", but 
>>> list-tagged-draggable doesn't acccept this parameter.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Generate numbered list using list-tagged-draggable

[Pin Tail]

Thanks for your help!

On Thursday, 21 February 2019 01:59:47 UTC, S. S. wrote:
>
> Tony,
>
> You are right! The answer does lie in there 
> .
> Interestingly the *list-tagged-draggable* macro omits the *type* and 
> *subtype* parameter.
> I can't see much harm for including those.
> It only took a little modification, so I tried it out. Seems to work fine 
> so I've attached it here.
> Even though I believe it cannot do any damage, and you can always delete 
> it when done using it ...
> Please BACKUP your TiddlyWiki before using it!
> I think it deserves to be part of the normal function of the macro, so I 
> will put in that request.
>
> Thanks for bringing it up Pin Tail.
>
> On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:20:53 AM UTC+7, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Pin,
>>
>> Since the ol and the html tag  are generated on display this 
>> will need to be regenerated on the fly at display time.
>>
>> Doing an advanced search list-tagged-draggable on tiddlywiki.com then 
>> the shadows tab, finds $:/core/macros/list
>>
>> Which contains the definition of both macros. I suggest you answer lies 
>> therein. Copy out the relevant macros and rename them placed in another 
>> tiddler tagged as a macro and modify it as needed. Ony copy the macros you 
>> want to modify because you new macro can use the existing ones as needed.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, 21 February 2019 09:06:07 UTC+11, Pin Tail wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there any way to generate a numbered list using the 
>>> list-tagged-draggable macro? The similar list-links-draggable can generate 
>>> numbered lists by setting the type parameter to "ol", but 
>>> list-tagged-draggable doesn't acccept this parameter.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: FYI another experiment with left menu, with tabs and toc

[TonyM]

David,

Congratulations on your 4 month sabbatical. May it be a productive one.

Tony

On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 10:34:08 AM UTC+11, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Just thought I would share this with you here:
>
> http://articulos.giffmex.org/sab/vida.html
>
> Spanish materials, only just started to add materials to it. An example of 
> the leftbar plugin, used with plaintabs and a toc in the "contenido" tab. 
> And my favorite fonts and look.
>
> I started an almost 4 month sabbatical on Monday, and these kinds of files 
> are what I plan to be working on.
>
> Dave
>

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[tw5] Re: FYI another experiment with left menu, with tabs and toc

[S. S.]

Dave,

A few comments.

It's a very clean comfortable layout, and I agree with you, the fonts look 
great.
The left sidebar somehow feels more natural for navigating with the purpose 
of reading, and the normal right hand sidebar feels more comfortable when 
writing and tweaking.
I like the blue bullet points instead of the standard black. Feels very 
neat. I think I am going to do something like that too!

The embedded slideshare.net presentation is a great idea!
I have a feeling I will end up using this one day.

The Cookie Monster tiddler made me translate the Spanish. This is what 
google translate gave:

The moralists of the Middle Ages distinguished five ways of committing the 
sin of gluttony:
1. Eating excessively
2. Eat too fast
3. Eat selfishly (without wanting to share)
4. Eat sumptuously (demand rich foods)
5. Eat delicately (demand accuracy in preparation)

Thanks for sharing!


On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 6:34:08 AM UTC+7, David Gifford wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> Just thought I would share this with you here:
>
> http://articulos.giffmex.org/sab/vida.html
>
> Spanish materials, only just started to add materials to it. An example of 
> the leftbar plugin, used with plaintabs and a toc in the "contenido" tab. 
> And my favorite fonts and look.
>
> I started an almost 4 month sabbatical on Monday, and these kinds of files 
> are what I plan to be working on.
>
> Dave
>

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[TonyM]

Bimlas,

Feedback on *intensedebate* plugin and for others interested in this.

First, I am really impressed with you Bimlas (yet again) building this so 
quickly. It seems to be working very well excluding your identified bug, I 
have installed it here !

https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/


   - In the plugin settings " Forum hash code (`idcomments_acct`)" should 
   be changed to "IntenseDebate site acct: " and in Readme/Setup
   - Before uploading the site to my host I discovered I could already post 
   comments when on file:///C:/Data/TW5/PSaT/psat.com.au.html# 
   *Cool, This could be used to comment on "foreshadowed updates"*
   - Do you think IntenseDebate may allow us to pass the current tiddler as 
   the "page"? 
   I submitted a request to IntenceDebate to see if we can return a link 
   back in the form 
   https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/?IDComment1069506919#tiddlername 
   Rather than
   https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/Blog#IDComment1069506919
   On a per blog basis to help TiddlyWiki integration.
   - Perhaps we can provide the ability to paste into an active comment the 
   permalink to the tiddler, but of course we can already copy the permalink 
   to the clipboard.

Advantages

   - Bring Multiple Blogs into one Comment System TiddlyWiki, WordPress, 
   Blogger, FriendFeed (indirectly any rss)
   - Moderation settings possible
   - Twitter and Facebook options for posts
   - Enable Akismet spam filtering
   - Enable the Profanity Filter
   - Whitelist/Ban users (inc IP and Email addresses)
   - Automatic Comment deletion
   - Add Moderators
   - Various plugins available
   - Custom CSS 
   - Export Comments to XML
   - Easily include a Intense Debate Badge
   - Subscribe to RSS feeds all comments and/or those for moderation
   - Additional Intense Debate Widgets available as javascript (So I do not 
   know how to activate) eg Popular blog posts widget
   - Feedburner integration
   - Can be used in WordPress, Joomla, Tumblr and Blogger as well
   - HTML Formatting
   
   You can also customize your links and add some photos to your comments. 
   IntenseDebate supports the following HTML tags: , , , , , 
   , , , , , .
   - 
   
   all comments are indexed by search engines, so you won’t lose any of the 
   SEO goodness.
   - 
   
   FriendFeed Comment Retrieval
   - Reply-by-email
   
   Did you know that you could reply to comments directly from your email 
   inbox? When you get a notification about a new comment posted on a blog 
   you’re subscribed to, you can reply directly to the email using our 
   Reply-by-email feature. Simply reply to the email with your comment, and 
   it’s done!
   
   If you’re the admin of the blog you can even moderate using this 
   function, simply reply approve, deny, or spam
   
Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 21 February 2019 12:12:13 UTC+11, TonyM wrote:
>
> Bimlas,
>
> Intence debate seems to be working well. However I did reproduce the bug.
>
> Do you think this is solvable?
>
> As posted previously I will look at some of the server side and 
> intergrations.
>
> Yes, I understood zapier was a cross platform tool. Sometimes answers can 
> be outside a proprietary tool.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Generate numbered list using list-tagged-draggable

[S. S.]

Tony,

You are right! The answer does lie in there 
.
Interestingly the *list-tagged-draggable* macro omits the *type* and 
*subtype* parameter.
I can't see much harm for including those.
It only took a little modification, so I tried it out. Seems to work fine 
so I've attached it here.
Even though I believe it cannot do any damage, and you can always delete it 
when done using it ...
Please BACKUP your TiddlyWiki before using it!
I think it deserves to be part of the normal function of the macro, so I 
will put in that request.

Thanks for bringing it up Pin Tail.

On Thursday, February 21, 2019 at 5:20:53 AM UTC+7, TonyM wrote:
>
> Pin,
>
> Since the ol and the html tag  are generated on display this will 
> need to be regenerated on the fly at display time.
>
> Doing an advanced search list-tagged-draggable on tiddlywiki.com then the 
> shadows tab, finds $:/core/macros/list
>
> Which contains the definition of both macros. I suggest you answer lies 
> therein. Copy out the relevant macros and rename them placed in another 
> tiddler tagged as a macro and modify it as needed. Ony copy the macros you 
> want to modify because you new macro can use the existing ones as needed.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Thursday, 21 February 2019 09:06:07 UTC+11, Pin Tail wrote:
>>
>> Is there any way to generate a numbered list using the 
>> list-tagged-draggable macro? The similar list-links-draggable can generate 
>> numbered lists by setting the type parameter to "ol", but 
>> list-tagged-draggable doesn't acccept this parameter.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[TonyM]

Bimlas,

Intence debate seems to be working well. However I did reproduce the bug.

Do you think this is solvable?

As posted previously I will look at some of the server side and intergrations.

Yes, I understood zapier was a cross platform tool. Sometimes answers can be 
outside a proprietary tool.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[TonyM]

BTC

I understand. What mechanisium would you suggest I use?, a tiddler button to 
alter the viewtemplate of any given tiddler a tag that selects a css style that 
hides elements?

Thanks
Tony

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[tw5] another great tiddlywiki

[BurningTreeC]

The link

http://ifyoulived.org/window.html

this appears to be a very old one, version 1.2.39 classic tiddlywiki, it's 
amazing

doesn't deserve to stay unshared

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[tw5] Re: The Muuri StoryView is back

[BurningTreeC]

>
> BTC
>
> Good work, and moving it to a story view is a great approach, I believe it 
> may extend the use and applicability because it has less impact.
>
> With my big screen at home laying out the tiles looks fantastic, yet my 
> thoughts immediately come to the possibility of being able to toggle at 
> least three view template states
>
>1. The Current full tiddler
>2. Removing the toolbars and subtitle leaving only the title
>3. Removing all "tiddler chrome" including the title to show only the 
>content
>
> In each case still enabling drag and drop, even a tiddler by tiddler 
> toggle between the three states above (Whilst hiding the toggle mechanism 
> unless hover or click?)
>
> Finally for presentations if there could be a highlight on mouse hover it 
> would be easy to show the audience where the focus should be.
>
> I can see using the option 3 above to display a dashboard of dashboards
>
> Only in the spirit of improvement, these suggestions in no way undermine 
> how valuable the tool already is, thanks so much.
>

Hi Tony, thanks for your great feedback

I've found that such things shouldn't be part of the plugin because they 
can be made by anybody, it's just buttons css and wikitext
The problem is that I use things differently from wiki to wiki, that's why 
here I want to have the functionality not doable in wikitext,
later inventions can be addons or demos on the page I believe

There's already something new to discover on the page, probably with some 
issues that I'll try to fix soon ... we can drag from grid to grid, 
updating the corresponding list tiddlers. it's a great feature if 
everything works well

all the best,
Simon


> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, 19 February 2019 06:39:28 UTC+11, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> First draft, testing prerelease, version 0.0.1 of the Muuri StoryView 
>> plugin
>> I hope that 0.0.2 / 0.0.3 can be a first stable release
>>
>> Besides of older browsers and more unknown ones I hope there's good 
>> browser support - this draft should show over time where the problems are
>>
>> Older versions with similar or the same functionality were named 
>> "TiddlyTouch", "MuuriTouch" etc.
>>
>> Now it's simply called the "Muuri StoryView" since it's just that, a 
>> storyview that can be used with list widgets
>> (MuuriTouch / TiddlyTouch were relying on a muuri widget, which is 
>> complicated and removed)
>>
>>
>> https://burningtreec.github.io/tw5-muuri-view
>>
>>
>> One of the starting tiddlers contains a list of issues regarding some ui 
>> problems
>>
>> I'll update that tiddler when there are more issues arising
>>
>>
>> Whoever is interested in testing this, please try it in a safe wiki, make 
>> a copy of the original one, use an empty wiki, don't risk loosing your work 
>> through a mistake
>>
>>
>> I really hope it already works as fine crossbrowser as it does on my 
>> linux machine using chrome and firefox
>>
>> I'm especially interested in feedback by Safari users ... does it throw 
>> errors, does it run smoothly etc ...
>>
>>
>> If everything works - Experimenting time! I believe that many nice things 
>> can be created with this
>>
>>
>> all the best with a jodler,
>> btc
>>
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[tw5] Re: Released the Disqus comments plugin

[TonyM]

Bimlas,

I think I followed the instructions correctly. Can you possible tell me why 
the comments do not open to start a thread here 
https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au ?

thanks
Tony

On Tuesday, 19 February 2019 19:15:40 UTC+11, bimlas wrote:
>
> Use this plugin to give your visitors the opportunity to comment on your 
> tiddlers without changing the wiki itself. 
>
>
>- Demo + install: https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-disqus
>- https://gitlab.com/bimlas/tw5-disqus (main repository) 
>- https://github.com/bimlas/tw5-disqus (mirror, please add a star if 
>you like the plugin) 
>
>
> Disqus is a networked community platform used by hundreds of thousands of 
> sites all over the web. With Disqus, your website gains a feature-rich 
> comment system complete with social network integration, advanced 
> administration and moderation options, and other extensive community 
> functions.
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Re: [tw5] Re: TIDDLYMAP: Would it be possible to trigger other actions when doublecliccking a node in the map.

[Jan]

Hallo Felix,
ouch, sorry... this is because I built my own fullscreen which I trigger 
with another button and which obviously is not fullscreen for Tiddlymap.
(Sounds stupid, but there is some reasons why I did this: It fits better 
into my userinterface, I can start dirctly in Fullscreen mode and I need 
to perform some action when switching to the other view...)
Is the Fullscreen-state stored somewhere in TW or may it be called in a 
different way?


Ahoi: Jan



Am 20.02.2019 um 17:47 schrieb Felix Küppers:

Hi Jan,

especially when Tiddlymap is in Fullscreen it would be nice to
configure
doubleklicking a node to trigger different actions e.g. Displaying
the
Tiddlercontent in a Modal.


Displaying the Tiddlercontent in a Modal on double click is actually 
the default behavour. Or what do you want to achieve?
It is on purpose that you cannot open other tiddlers than those on the 
map as modal when in fullscreen mode.


Is it possible to do this without touching the
javascript-Tiddlers? What
would have to be changed?


I am afraid this behaviour is pretty much baked into tiddlymap. An 
option would be to allow extensions to tiddlymap e.g. that custom js 
code can be added to the right-click context menu – but this is not a 
feature for the near future.


Best regards
Felix

On Monday, 18 February 2019 11:20:29 UTC+1, Jan wrote:

Dear Fans of Tiddlymap.
especially when Tiddlymap is in Fullscreen it would be nice to
configure
doubleklicking a node to trigger different actions e.g. Displaying
the
Tiddlercontent in a Modal.
Is it possible to do this without touching the
javascript-Tiddlers? What
would have to be changed?

Thanks for your Help
Jan

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[tw5] FYI another experiment with left menu, with tabs and toc

[David Gifford]

Hi all

Just thought I would share this with you here:

http://articulos.giffmex.org/sab/vida.html

Spanish materials, only just started to add materials to it. An example of 
the leftbar plugin, used with plaintabs and a toc in the "contenido" tab. 
And my favorite fonts and look.

I started an almost 4 month sabbatical on Monday, and these kinds of files 
are what I plan to be working on.

Dave

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[bimlas]

Tony,

Linking applications is Zapier's primary goal as far as I know. This is not 
the privilege of Discord or Disqus, but a feature of Zapier.

https://zapier.com/
https://zapier.com/apps/disqus/integrations/

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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[bimlas]

Tony,

I just finished the plugin, but *I do not recommend this plugin because it 
doesn't seem stable! If you close the comments immediately after opening 
them, Red Screen Of Death will appear.* This has no effect on your data in 
principle, but just for the sake of safety, open the comments only in a 
read only online wiki.

https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-intensedebate/

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5-JsonManglerPlugin] v2.0.2 Update!

[TonyM]

Joshua,

Since you are clearly a big user of json, have you a method to "import" 
from a URI?

Please look at my post here Widget for HTML GET? 
 

I am keen to operate this on single file wikis which are trivial to host 
compared to server or node served wikis.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 21 February 2019 07:33:27 UTC+11, Joshua Fontany wrote:
>
> mauloop,
>
> Thanks so much for catching that. I had rolled back a set of changes just 
> before pushing, and my manual change of the plugin version probably got 
> rolled back as well. This should not affect anything else in the plugin & I 
> have updated the github repository.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Best,
> Joshua Fontnany
>
> On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 8:39 AM mauloop > 
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Joshua,
>>
>> I appreciated very much your work, since I'm building a wiki which 
>> heavily makes use of JSON data tiddler, and I was investigating for a way 
>> to deal with nested JSON object. I just started to experiment with your 
>> plugin, but it looks like the ideal answer for my need. Thanks a lot.
>>
>> I have just a minor question (by now :))). As from your post (and the 
>> HelloThere tiddler in your demo wiki as well) the plugin should be rel. 
>> 2.0.2. But the version field of the plugin tiddler says rel. 2.0.1. Are 
>> there any changes still waiting to be commited or maybe was it just a typo, 
>> either in the plugin header or in this post?
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[tw5] Re: innerWiki plugin & the meaning of recursive

[TonyM]

Josiah,

I have not used it enough in pre-release to be totally literate with 
innerwiki but you will simply ensure sufficient tiddlers are specified in 
$data widgets to generate your innerwiki.

On test layouts for mobile phones, this sounds almost exactly like why 
Jeremy developed this plugin.

Note: Innerwiki allows

Width in pixels of the virtual screen for rendering the embedded wiki
Height in pixels of the virtual screen for rendering the embedded wiki


So it will be idea for what you ask, simply force the screen size you want, 
It should go straight into mobile mode if the theme etc.. do so.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 21 February 2019 00:56:51 UTC+11, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> TonyM
>
> As you know I'm not so tech. So this thing is like interesting witchcraft 
> to me :-)
>
> I did notice you can pass settings into it on startup via $:/data
>
> I'm wondering if it could be used to test layouts for mobile phones on 
> desktops?
>
> That seems a simple test case to get clearer how it works?
>
> But, how would you do that?
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>
> TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Josiah,
>>
>> I have covered some scenarios in this thread Help from Web Developer - 
>> iframe interaction 
>> 
>>
>> I have identified some scenarios for embedded iframes, even  the 
>> innerwiki plugin, I will share, as suggested by you.
>>
>> Please forgive me for my rampant imagination, these ideas come from real 
>> life challenges.
>>
>> Given, a Parent wiki, even a single file wiki can spawn an innerwiki with 
>> a subset of tiddlers
>>
>>1. In the parent/outer wiki Accept some settings, Generate a seperate 
>>wiki based on the settings, in which a user can enter their input and 
>> save 
>>it to disk. Basically the parent wiki can be a TiddlyWiki factory. It can 
>>generate multiple editions from the one edition and with access to the 
>>resources / data of the parent, at least at creation time
>>   1. Spawn an inner wiki which is a standalone wiki containing the 
>>   results of a process designed in the parent wiki - in effect 
>> generating 
>>   report wikis perhaps for distribution into an intranet.
>>  1. The report wiki can be a light wiki, only with the results, 
>>  not the tools to generate the results and could allow for a chinese 
>> wall 
>>  with multi-client outputs.
>>  2. It could even include active plugins disabled in the parent 
>>  wiki.
>>   2. Generate a TiddlyWiki as a Document/Website (full or template) 
>>   in an innerwiki, giving it a unique filename, serial number and other 
>>   features (metadata Stored in the parent wiki as well) then save/export 
>> the 
>>   document. The parent wiki can hold a set of templates for the required 
>>   tiddlywiki documents, and the document can store reference to its 
>> parent. 
>>   Thus every wiki built is automatically known about by the parent 
>>   "generating" wiki.
>>   3. Generate "forms" in smart wikis, and allow the answers (in 
>>   Serial number uniquified tiddlers) to be emailed in response (Ie the 
>> parent 
>>   need not be writable), and imported by the owner of the parent.
>>2. Spawn an innerwiki identical to the outer wiki (all tiddlers), 
>>install a plugin to the innerwiki and test it sandboxed, from the parent. 
>>Optionally migrate changes back to the wiki or save it out and replace 
>> the 
>>parent.
>>3. Publish a parent wiki, that spawns innerwikis with generated 
>>tiddler sets, or test data. Users can then replicate there "problems" and 
>>"Challenges" in a defined wiki or data set, that that all users can also 
>>generate. So if I am having trouble with a special toc, I can test it 
>>inside a common wiki and share my broken tiddler and the named data set 
>>others can replicate.
>>
>> Questions arising
>>
>>1. Could we save and reopen an innerwiki injecting new content the 
>>second time, or harvesting changes within the innerwiki when it was away 
>>with another user?
>>2. Could we allow innerwikis to be saved into the server hosting the 
>>parent wiki?, node, AWS or php for example. 
>>   1. As a hosted Tiddlywiki solution
>>   2. The creator could then own the generated wiki but not the 
>>   parent.
>>   3. Could we generate an innerwiki with access to an authentication 
>>process, that allows the current browser session to be authenticated, 
>> then 
>>exit that innerwiki and continue within the now authenticated parent?
>>
>> With a view to continued innovation!
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, 19 February 2019 08:55:29 UTC+11, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> The innerWiki plugin is MOST interesting and exciting (
>>> 

[tw5] Re: How to use variables in filter expressions

[TonyM]

Werner,

Just remove the [ ] from []

>

I have a* draft document* covering this and more 
here 
http://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/#Variables%2C%20Parameters%20and%20transclusions

See the within filters


   - There is no need to include html or widgets in Filters so single 
   bracket versions are used (unlike *Within wikiText*)

In Wiki text we must allow  to be identified as they are 
different from <>, <$widgetname> but not in 
filters.

so  and {tiddlername} or {tiddlername!!fielodname} are 
used in filters


   - since the above delineate the beginning and end of a variable or 
   transclusion you leave out a set of [ ] in filters.

eg filter="[!has]" or "filter="[backlinks[]]" 
"filter="[subfilter]"

While a variable's 'value', or a macros 'output', can be used as a filter 
parameter, 'macro parameters' are not supported in filters.

 can be used but the parameter is ignored ? TEST


Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 21 February 2019 05:20:23 UTC+11, Werner wrote:
>
> Hi, pretty new to TiddlyWiki and still trying to wrap my head around 
> various concepts. Also did some searching in this group but haven't found 
> anything that could help me.
>
> OK, I want do some kind of dynamic filtering, according to a given 
> variable. Basically, I want to set a variable and use it in a filter to 
> reference the contents of a field. So, the result should look something 
> like that
>
> <]tag[Products]!field:status[1]]">>
>
> where  would be the variable to be used.
>
> Thanks for helping me out on this.
>
> Best
> Werner
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[TonyM]

>  Just noted the "Mohammad Filter" is something used in test process and 
> will be removed later!
> I just saved a sample to see how it works :-)
>

That is why I used it too :) Display custom filters by name on the TC 
dashboard
  

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[tw5] Re: is[missing] !is[tiddler]

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

I a tiddler tagged for view template I recently added this to detect new 
tiddler titles 

"[all[current]is[missing]]"


in 

<$list filter="[all[current]is[missing]]" variable=null>


and for tiddlers that exist

[all[current]has:field[text]]

<$list filter="[all[current]has:field[text]]" variable=null>


In the exiting tiddler test the has:field[text] also accepts an empty text 
field.

Untested but

[all[current]!is[missing]]


Should work, in this case we are ensuring there is the current tiddler 
title being tested for missing.

WHy do I have this test in view template?

Because I want to detect when someone opens a non existing tiddler from the 
URL

eg
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operator

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 21 February 2019 08:44:50 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thanks Mario
> Thanks Tony!
>
> So, for checking if a title is an existing tiddler what can I do
>
> [!is[tiddler]]   [is[missing]] [has[title]]
>
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 7:58:32 PM UTC+3:30, PMario wrote:
>>
>> Hi, 
>> Have a closer look at: 
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#all%20Operator%20(Examples)
>> -m
>>
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[tw5] Re: Generate numbered list using list-tagged-draggable

[TonyM]

Pin,

Since the ol and the html tag  are generated on display this will 
need to be regenerated on the fly at display time.

Doing an advanced search list-tagged-draggable on tiddlywiki.com then the 
shadows tab, finds $:/core/macros/list

Which contains the definition of both macros. I suggest you answer lies 
therein. Copy out the relevant macros and rename them placed in another 
tiddler tagged as a macro and modify it as needed. Ony copy the macros you 
want to modify because you new macro can use the existing ones as needed.

Regards
Tony


On Thursday, 21 February 2019 09:06:07 UTC+11, Pin Tail wrote:
>
> Is there any way to generate a numbered list using the 
> list-tagged-draggable macro? The similar list-links-draggable can generate 
> numbered lists by setting the type parameter to "ol", but 
> list-tagged-draggable doesn't acccept this parameter.
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[tw5] Re: Disqus (guest comments) for TiddlyWiki: comming soon

[TonyM]

Folks,

Over on Discord there is a post about disqus integration 
with https://zapier.com/apps/discord/integrations/disqus

Regards
Tony


On Saturday, 16 February 2019 01:37:07 UTC+11, bimlas wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> I'll soon publish the Disqus plugin, but before releasing, please help in 
> testing: you can write comments for each tiddler separately (on the bottom 
> of them): https://bimlas.gitlab.io/
>
> Unfortunately, signing in (Disqus, Google, Facebook, etc.) is mandatory, 
> otherwise I would have to accept all guest comments one by one.
>
> EDIT:
>
> Enabled guest commenting, because it seems that not everybody like to 
> login just to write a comment.
>
> EDIT:
>
> To be clear: Disqus is not my software, it is a worldwide blog comment 
> hosting service for web sites and online communities: 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disqus
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[tw5] Generate numbered list using list-tagged-draggable

[Pin Tail]

Is there any way to generate a numbered list using the 
list-tagged-draggable macro? The similar list-links-draggable can generate 
numbered lists by setting the type parameter to "ol", but 
list-tagged-draggable doesn't acccept this parameter.

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[tw5] Re: is[missing] !is[tiddler]

[Mohammad]

Thanks Mario
Thanks Tony!

So, for checking if a title is an existing tiddler what can I do

[!is[tiddler]]   [is[missing]] [has[title]]


--Mohammad

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> Hi, 
> Have a closer look at: https://tiddlywiki.com/#all%20Operator%20(Examples)
> -m
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[tw5] Re: search and replace in tiddlers

[Mohammad]

This is now partially works in TW-Commander,

see

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ

Best
Mohammad

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 8:10:59 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Here's a javascript macro you can play with in a safe place. It's just a 
> think javascript macro wrapped around the underlying javascript system, so 
> I'm sure it could be improved.
>
> Invoke like:
>
> <>
>
> Parameters *regtext* (which can be a regular expression, but also plain 
> text if it's been escaped), *subtext* (the text to replace found text 
> with. Note $1,$2... for replacing groups in regtext), and the *text* 
> itself.
>
> -- Mark
>
> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:34:08 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Yep,
>>  That is really handy! Specially when you write codes
>>
>> Thanks Tnoy for the hint!
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>> On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 9:39:51 AM UTC+3:30, tony wrote:
>>>
>>> The command mode from the CodeMirror plugin with CodeMirror Keymap: vim 
>>>
>>> works quite lovely with
>>>
>>> :%s/foo/bar/gc
>>>
>>> Even more delicious is that yanks work across the tiddlers, ie yy to 
>>> yank a line in one tiddler, open a different tiddler and p to paste
>>>
>>> Heck, even :sort to sort all lines in the tiddlers work
>>>
>>> Good stuff!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> tony
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 2:16:55 PM UTC-8, Mohammad wrote:

 Is there any way to search and replace in
 Tiddlers

- text
- field value

 for example search foo and replace with bar?


 --Mohammad

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[Mohammad]

TW-Commander has new update
See original post: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/w9Bv-WulKw8/CYf9D4H6BgAJ


Here a great feature has been added

Search and replace in text (tiddler text field).


   - This is in progress
   - Does not support whole words
   - Does not support case-sensitive search and replace

These features will be added soon!

Thanks to Mark for all his invaluable help in developing this feature.

Cheers
Mohammad

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[tw5] is[missing] !is[tiddler]

[TonyM]

Mohamnad,

In the first and second paragraph of you post there is a subtle difference.

The first is talking about the filter opperator missing[].

The second is talking about missing tiddlers.

There are some extra notes on the use of missing opperator in the doco that 
should not be missed.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: syntax -- are "$"s important?

[Joshua Fontany]

Mahalo (thanks)

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 1:23:54 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Using $ as a prefix to a parameter name in widgets is only when there is a 
> posibility when you may want to pass a name value the same as the parameter.
>
> $value=v1 allows value=v2 to be used in the same widget. Effectively not 
> blocking you from passing a "value" called value
>
> This you find it in widgets that should permit any parameter=value pair 
> like creating tiddlers, and almost no where else.
>
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] syntax -- are "$"s important?

[TonyM]

Using $ as a prefix to a parameter name in widgets is only when there is a 
posibility when you may want to pass a name value the same as the parameter.

$value=v1 allows value=v2 to be used in the same widget. Effectively not 
blocking you from passing a "value" called value

This you find it in widgets that should permit any parameter=value pair like 
creating tiddlers, and almost no where else.

Tony

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[tw5] Re: WikiText for Dummies

[TonyM]

S s

Widgets are themselves placed in wiki text. 

Because they have there own parameter and content rules we typically go on to 
discuss these, but skim over the fact they are placed in wikitext and often 
also contain wikitext between widget opening and closing tags.

Regards
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[tw5] Re: syntax -- are "$"s important?

[Joshua Fontany]

>From my understanding of the docs and poking around while building my Json 
plugin, I would say that yes, they are important.

I still find myself looking up almost every widget to see if I am using the 
right syntax.

The trend that I have seen is that parameters that start with $ are "named 
parameters", those that do not are collected into a 'paramObject' 
internally, and are "optional parameters". I'm not sure if this can be 
generalized exactly like that. but is how I think about them. This can 
be seen clearest in the <$action-setfield> widget. If you don't have 
$tiddler & $field it won't work ($value is optional). If you have $tiddler, 
but no $field or $value (etc), but you do have a set of optional 
parameters, such as  <$action-setfield $tiddler=<> 
name="the Name" date="the Date" location="the Location"> then those are 
interpreted as !!field = "value".
AttributeDescription
$tiddler The title of the tiddler whose fields are to be modified (if not 
provided defaults to the current tiddler 
)
$field Optional name of a field to be assigned the $value attribute
$index Optional index of a property in a data tiddler 
 to be assigned the $value attribute
$value The value to be assigned to the field or index identified by the 
$field or $index attribute. If neither is specified then the value is 
assigned to the text field. If no value is specified, $field or $index will 
be deleted.
$timestamp Specifies whether the timestamp(s) of the target tiddler will be 
updated (*modified* and *modifier*, plus *created* and *creator* for newly 
created tiddlers). Can be "yes" (the default) or "no"
*{any attributes not starting with $}* Each attribute name specifies a 
field to be modified with the attribute value providing the value to assign 
to the field


On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:36:25 AM UTC-8, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I'm just starting to (vaguely) understand TW code...
> A problem is variations I see in used syntax ... especially about when you 
> use $ or not. I get confused.
>
> Is it ... ?
>
> <$link to="hobbit" ...
>
> or is it ... ?
>
> <$link $to="hobbit"...
>
> Is it ... ?
>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" 
> $param={{{[has[draft.of]field:draft.of]}}}/>
>
> or is it ... 
>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" 
> param={{{[has[draft.of]field:draft.of]}}}/>
>
> (Thanks to Thomas for that one: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/tUwDeDPQyDc/ie4Zyhx8BQAJ)
>
> Just trying to get clearer
> Josiah
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: [TW5-JsonManglerPlugin] v2.0.2 Update!

[Joshua Fontany]

mauloop,

Thanks so much for catching that. I had rolled back a set of changes just
before pushing, and my manual change of the plugin version probably got
rolled back as well. This should not affect anything else in the plugin & I
have updated the github repository.

Thanks again!

Best,
Joshua Fontnany

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 8:39 AM mauloop  wrote:

> Dear Joshua,
>
> I appreciated very much your work, since I'm building a wiki which heavily
> makes use of JSON data tiddler, and I was investigating for a way to deal
> with nested JSON object. I just started to experiment with your plugin, but
> it looks like the ideal answer for my need. Thanks a lot.
>
> I have just a minor question (by now :))). As from your post (and the
> HelloThere tiddler in your demo wiki as well) the plugin should be rel.
> 2.0.2. But the version field of the plugin tiddler says rel. 2.0.1. Are
> there any changes still waiting to be commited or maybe was it just a typo,
> either in the plugin header or in this post?
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[tw5] Re: Removing chars from tiddler title: issue with tiddler overwritting

[Mohammad]

Mark,
 Do I need to keep output="formattedtext" mode="block"
What is the objective of mode="block" in this cae?

--Mohammad

On Monday, February 18, 2019 at 7:29:00 PM UTC+3:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> List widgets look deceptively like for-next loops in other languages, but 
> they don't work that way (or at least I don't think they do). At the moment 
> you click the button, there is essentially already a list of things -- a 
> snapshot -- that will be activated, and that list is not changed on the 
> fly. So you need to have a complete list of actions you will take before 
> you press the button. Or, another way to look at it, you can't change 
> things in tiddlers that will change the outcome of the filters. From time 
> to time I mention that javascript is easier. This is what I mean. In JS you 
> can run a loop that changes the conditions that terminate the loop.  Oh 
> well.
>
> Here's what I've come up with. It worked. Once. It first goes through and 
> makes a list of all the suffixes that will be created by your process. Then 
> it turns that list into a title list. Then it feeds the resulting list into 
> a filter that checks if there are more than one tiddlers (e.g. two 
> tiddlers) that will be impacted. If there are more than 1, than it does 
> nothing. Otherwise it does the changes. It probably needs to be cleaned up, 
> since there's bits I didn't end up using.
>
> HTH
>
> -- Mark
>
> \define suffix-actions()
> <$list filter="[tag[xx]suffix]" variable="item">
>  <$action-setfield  $tiddler=<> title=<> />
>   <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler=<> />
> 
> \end
> \define makelink() [[$(newTitle)$]]
> \define makeregexp() ^.{$(n)$}$(sfx)$$
> \define generate-suffixes(myfilter, n:"0")
> <$list filter="[<__n__>] -0" variable=null>
> <$list filter=<<__myfilter__>> variable="item">
> <$list filter="""[split[]rest[$n$]join[]]""" variable="newTitle">
> <$text text=<>/>
> 
> 
> 
> \end
> \define deprefix-title(myfilter,num)
> <$button>
> Delete $num$ chars
> <$vars n="$num$" >
> <$wikify text="""<>""" 
> name="outputs" output="formattedtext" mode="block">
> <$list filter="[subfilter]" variable="sfx">
> <$list filter="$myfilter$ +[suffixlimit[2]count[]regexp[2]]" 
> emptyMessage=<> variable="cnt">
> 
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> \end
>
> <>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] How to use variables in filter expressions

['Werner' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi, pretty new to TiddlyWiki and still trying to wrap my head around 
various concepts. Also did some searching in this group but haven't found 
anything that could help me.

OK, I want do some kind of dynamic filtering, according to a given 
variable. Basically, I want to set a variable and use it in a filter to 
reference the contents of a field. So, the result should look something 
like that

<]tag[Products]!field:status[1]]">>

where  would be the variable to be used.

Thanks for helping me out on this.

Best
Werner

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[tw5] Re: Multiple Sort rules in TOC

[S. S.]

On further reflection, this is one helluva elegant solution.
Using a transcluded field to supply a filter operator parameter that 
selectively applies to only one section of a recursive macro.
I wondered who thought of it so I did a little digging. It was *Riz* - in 
this Google Groups post 
 that 
started in Nov 2016
Sweet! 



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[tw5] Re: Multiple Sort rules in TOC

[S. S.]

Colin,

Thanks for posting the full solution. I'm sure it will help others when 
they want this same Table of Contents behaviour, which actually makes 
perfect sense for Journal tiddlers.

Also, by asking your question it made me look carefully at the instruction 
tiddler. I remember when I was new to TiddlyWiki, I tried this same method, 
found it didn't work, believed I didn't know what I was doing, and then 
forgot about it.

Now it's permanently fixed thanks to you!

Cheers

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:25:34 PM UTC+7, Ikaro wrote:
>
> Hi S.S.
>
> Great!!, that was the reason because it wasn't working, thanks a lot.
>
> I'll post here all in case anyone seeks the solution here:
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Multiple Sort rules in TOC

[S. S.]

Done. Pull Request #3783 


On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:27:48 PM UTC+7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Good stuff.
> Hope somebody notify Jeremy to correct this!
>
> Added to TW-Scripts
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
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[tw5] Re: Difficulty making external link

[S. S.]

Ha!
I tried that with the $text widget, but forgot to encase the URL in 
quotation marks!
Thanks Mohammad.
All fixed perfectly now.

Cheers!

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 9:19:07 PM UTC+7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hello S.S
>
> Do it like this
>
> <$text text="https://www.google.com/"/>
>
> The problem is auto wikification!
>
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: TIDDLYMAP: Would it be possible to trigger other actions when doublecliccking a node in the map.

[Felix Küppers]

Hi Jan,

especially when Tiddlymap is in Fullscreen it would be nice to configure 
> doubleklicking a node to trigger different actions e.g. Displaying the 
> Tiddlercontent in a Modal. 
>

Displaying the Tiddlercontent in a Modal on double click is actually the 
default behavour. Or what do you want to achieve?
It is on purpose that you cannot open other tiddlers than those on the map 
as modal when in fullscreen mode.

Is it possible to do this without touching the javascript-Tiddlers? What 
> would have to be changed? 
>

I am afraid this behaviour is pretty much baked into tiddlymap. An option 
would be to allow extensions to tiddlymap e.g. that custom js code can be 
added to the right-click context menu – but this is not a feature for the 
near future.

Best regards
Felix
 

On Monday, 18 February 2019 11:20:29 UTC+1, Jan wrote:
>
> Dear Fans of Tiddlymap. 
> especially when Tiddlymap is in Fullscreen it would be nice to configure 
> doubleklicking a node to trigger different actions e.g. Displaying the 
> Tiddlercontent in a Modal. 
> Is it possible to do this without touching the javascript-Tiddlers? What 
> would have to be changed? 
>
> Thanks for your Help 
> Jan 
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [TW5-JsonManglerPlugin] v2.0.2 Update!

[mauloop]

Dear Joshua,

I appreciated very much your work, since I'm building a wiki which heavily 
makes use of JSON data tiddler, and I was investigating for a way to deal 
with nested JSON object. I just started to experiment with your plugin, but 
it looks like the ideal answer for my need. Thanks a lot.

I have just a minor question (by now :))). As from your post (and the 
HelloThere tiddler in your demo wiki as well) the plugin should be rel. 
2.0.2. But the version field of the plugin tiddler says rel. 2.0.1. Are 
there any changes still waiting to be commited or maybe was it just a typo, 
either in the plugin header or in this post?

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[tw5] Re: syntax -- are "$"s important?

[@TiddlyTweeter]

repeat for email ...

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 17:36:25 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I'm just starting to (vaguely) understand TW code...
> A problem is variations I see in used syntax ... especially about when you 
> use $ or not. I get confused.
>
> Is it ... ?
>
> <$link to="hobbit" ...
>
> or is it ... ?
>
> <$link $to="hobbit"...
>
> Is it ... ?
>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" 
> $param={{{[has[draft.of]field:draft.of]}}}/>
>
> or is it ... 
>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-close-tiddler" 
> param={{{[has[draft.of]field:draft.of]}}}/>
>
> (Thanks to Thomas for that one: 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/tUwDeDPQyDc/ie4Zyhx8BQAJ)
>
> Just trying to get clearer
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: is[missing] !is[tiddler]

[PMario]

Hi, 
Have a closer look at: https://tiddlywiki.com/#all%20Operator%20(Examples)
-m

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[tw5] Re: innerWiki plugin & the meaning of recursive

[@TiddlyTweeter]

For those interested, I tweeted about the "#innerWiki" #plugin on #Twitter 
...

https://twitter.com/TiddlyTweeter/status/1098242310712766464

https://twitter.com/TiddlyTweeter/status/1098244675926978560

https://twitter.com/TiddlyTweeter/status/1098247207910891527

In The Quine
@TiddlyTweeter

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[tw5] Re: formatting macro breaks backlinks: alternatives?

[PMario]

Hi, 

Did you try this: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Headings%20in%20WikiText

eg: 

.x [[link to ]]

 - where x will be the new class, instead of .my-custom-source-header which 
is much more complicate to write.
 - and x would work with every header, if you want to

just a thought

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] is[missing] !is[tiddler]

[Mohammad]

Referring to: https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#is%20Operator
It states !is[tiddler] is equal to is[missing] 

In page: https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#all%20Operator
It states missing is all non-existent tiddlers to which there is at least 
one hard link 

Can I check if a title is a tiddler or NOT?

I mean does it check also for system and shadow tiddlers? If so, does the 
documentation needs to be revised?


Example

Check if all names refer to an existing tiddler (shadow, system, tiddler)

<$list filter="[subfilter] +[!is[missing]]">



Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Multiple Sort rules in TOC

[Mohammad]

Good stuff.
Hope somebody notify Jeremy to correct this!

Added to TW-Scripts

Cheers
Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 5:55:34 PM UTC+3:30, Ikaro wrote:
>
> Hi S.S.
>
> Great!!, that was the reason because it wasn't working, thanks a lot.
>
> I'll post here all in case anyone seeks the solution here:
>
> - I followed documentation in order to create a tab in right menu win a 
> contents tree stile.
>
> tiddler name "Contents"
> tiddler tag name "$:/tags/SideBar"
> tiddler code:
> 
> <>
> 
>
> Then modifying Jornal tid as said in documentation, adding a new field 
> with the same name as the sort reference above "journalsort"(or any other 
> given name, but the same name in both tidds) and field value "created":
>
> [image: tidd01.png]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> And now it is sorted as intended:
>
> [image: tidd02.png]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot for the support
> Regards
> Colin
>
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 11:34:03 AM UTC+1, S. S. wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Colin,
>>
>> Sorry for your understandable frustration. I believe there is a mistake 
>> in that help tiddler.
>>
>> Try following those instructions, except use this change: from *fuzzy* 
>> to *!!fuzzy*
>>
>> >
>>
>>
>> Do let us know if it gives you the wanted result.
>> I will also initiate a correction of that instruction tiddler.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 4:38:32 PM UTC+7, Ikaro wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi TonyM,
>>> Thanks for your time on this, the thing is that by reading the 
>>> documentation that I posted, I thought that it was possible to do it and 
>>> for some reason I was not implementing it correctly.
>>> Tried with nsort and not much success.
>>>
>>> Thank you anyway.
>>> Regards
>>> Colin
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: WikiText for Dummies

[Mohammad]

Hello S.S
Many thanks for your efforts.
These are valuable materials.

Cheers
Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 8:13:32 AM UTC+3:30, S. S. wrote:
>
>
> Now that, thanks to all the feedback, Widgets for Beginners 
>  is 
> almost done;
>
> It's time for WikiText for Beginners 
> 
>
> It's a reasonably short tiddler (by my standards)! 
>
> I'd appreciate knowing if there are any glaring mistakes or omissions.
>
> Thanks.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Multiple Sort rules in TOC

[Ikaro]

Hi S.S.

Great!!, that was the reason because it wasn't working, thanks a lot.

I'll post here all in case anyone seeks the solution here:

- I followed documentation in order to create a tab in right menu win a 
contents tree stile.

tiddler name "Contents"
tiddler tag name "$:/tags/SideBar"
tiddler code:

<>


Then modifying Jornal tid as said in documentation, adding a new field with 
the same name as the sort reference above "journalsort"(or any other given 
name, but the same name in both tidds) and field value "created":

[image: tidd01.png] 





























And now it is sorted as intended:

[image: tidd02.png] 






















Thanks a lot for the support
Regards
Colin

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 11:34:03 AM UTC+1, S. S. wrote:
>
>
> Hi Colin,
>
> Sorry for your understandable frustration. I believe there is a mistake in 
> that help tiddler.
>
> Try following those instructions, except use this change: from *fuzzy* to 
> *!!fuzzy*
>
> >
>
>
> Do let us know if it gives you the wanted result.
> I will also initiate a correction of that instruction tiddler.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 4:38:32 PM UTC+7, Ikaro wrote:
>>
>> Hi TonyM,
>> Thanks for your time on this, the thing is that by reading the 
>> documentation that I posted, I thought that it was possible to do it and 
>> for some reason I was not implementing it correctly.
>> Tried with nsort and not much success.
>>
>> Thank you anyway.
>> Regards
>> Colin
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Difficulty making external link

[Mohammad]

Hello S.S

Do it like this

<$text text="https://www.google.com/"/>

The problem is auto wikification!

Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: innerWiki plugin & the meaning of recursive

[@TiddlyTweeter]

TonyM

As you know I'm not so tech. So this thing is like interesting witchcraft 
to me :-)

I did notice you can pass settings into it on startup via $:/data

I'm wondering if it could be used to test layouts for mobile phones on 
desktops?

That seems a simple test case to get clearer how it works?

But, how would you do that?

Best wishes
Josiah

TonyM wrote:
>
> Josiah,
>
> I have covered some scenarios in this thread Help from Web Developer - 
> iframe interaction 
> 
>
> I have identified some scenarios for embedded iframes, even  the innerwiki 
> plugin, I will share, as suggested by you.
>
> Please forgive me for my rampant imagination, these ideas come from real 
> life challenges.
>
> Given, a Parent wiki, even a single file wiki can spawn an innerwiki with 
> a subset of tiddlers
>
>1. In the parent/outer wiki Accept some settings, Generate a seperate 
>wiki based on the settings, in which a user can enter their input and save 
>it to disk. Basically the parent wiki can be a TiddlyWiki factory. It can 
>generate multiple editions from the one edition and with access to the 
>resources / data of the parent, at least at creation time
>   1. Spawn an inner wiki which is a standalone wiki containing the 
>   results of a process designed in the parent wiki - in effect generating 
>   report wikis perhaps for distribution into an intranet.
>  1. The report wiki can be a light wiki, only with the results, 
>  not the tools to generate the results and could allow for a chinese 
> wall 
>  with multi-client outputs.
>  2. It could even include active plugins disabled in the parent 
>  wiki.
>   2. Generate a TiddlyWiki as a Document/Website (full or template) 
>   in an innerwiki, giving it a unique filename, serial number and other 
>   features (metadata Stored in the parent wiki as well) then save/export 
> the 
>   document. The parent wiki can hold a set of templates for the required 
>   tiddlywiki documents, and the document can store reference to its 
> parent. 
>   Thus every wiki built is automatically known about by the parent 
>   "generating" wiki.
>   3. Generate "forms" in smart wikis, and allow the answers (in 
>   Serial number uniquified tiddlers) to be emailed in response (Ie the 
> parent 
>   need not be writable), and imported by the owner of the parent.
>2. Spawn an innerwiki identical to the outer wiki (all tiddlers), 
>install a plugin to the innerwiki and test it sandboxed, from the parent. 
>Optionally migrate changes back to the wiki or save it out and replace the 
>parent.
>3. Publish a parent wiki, that spawns innerwikis with generated 
>tiddler sets, or test data. Users can then replicate there "problems" and 
>"Challenges" in a defined wiki or data set, that that all users can also 
>generate. So if I am having trouble with a special toc, I can test it 
>inside a common wiki and share my broken tiddler and the named data set 
>others can replicate.
>
> Questions arising
>
>1. Could we save and reopen an innerwiki injecting new content the 
>second time, or harvesting changes within the innerwiki when it was away 
>with another user?
>2. Could we allow innerwikis to be saved into the server hosting the 
>parent wiki?, node, AWS or php for example. 
>   1. As a hosted Tiddlywiki solution
>   2. The creator could then own the generated wiki but not the parent.
>   3. Could we generate an innerwiki with access to an authentication 
>process, that allows the current browser session to be authenticated, then 
>exit that innerwiki and continue within the now authenticated parent?
>
> With a view to continued innovation!
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, 19 February 2019 08:55:29 UTC+11, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> The innerWiki plugin is MOST interesting and exciting (
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/innerwiki/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Finnerwiki
>> ).
>>
>> It is lot more than a smart experiment by a very clever A+++ student.
>>
>> The original idea was to make photo-snaps on the node version. 
>>
>> But its a lot more than than that potentially (
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/plugins/tiddlywiki/innerwiki/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftiddlywiki%2Finnerwiki%2Fexamples
>> ).
>>
>> Give it a try and come up with some ideas so it can get shaped into real 
>> utility ...
>>
>> To give you an idea, this screenshot shows a wiki running INSIDE ITSELF 
>> where I changed its name and palette independent of mother...
>>
>> [image: Capture.PNG]
>>
>>
>> In The Quine
>> Josiah 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: innerWiki plugin & the meaning of recursive

[@TiddlyTweeter]

It was very interesting seeing that under Firefox Windows, running Timimi 
saver, the "innerWiki" saved fine to a new name.

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[tw5] Difficulty making external link

[S. S.]

I am having difficulty making an external link as follows:

This is the link I want to make:
[ext[https://www.google.com/|https://www.google.com/ncr]]
It works perfectly! : https://www.google.com/ 

But I need to use a link from my tiddler's field named: *url*
Value of field: *url*
https://www.google.com/ncr

This link fails: 
https://www.google.com/
It links to : https://www.google.com/ : instead of : 
https://www.google.com/ncr

Any ideas on how can I make it in a simple way?

Thanks.

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Re: [tw5] Re: [theme] Presenting "Mono" theme

[BurningTreeC]

 

>
> Hi @JD, I think I can help you with the github part:
>
> 1. go to 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/core/palettes
> 2. click "Create new File"
> 3. give it a name like "Mono.tid"
> 4. add the following on top of the textarea
>
> title: $:/palettes/Mono
> tags: $:/tags/Palette
> description: description
> name: Mono
>
> 5. add a space below these lines
>

a new line, I mean a new line
 

> 6. insert your palette text-content
> 7. go down to "Propose new File" and give it a title like "add Mono 
> palette" - add a description if you like
> 8. click "Propose new File"
> 9. in the following window, click "Create Pull Request" and in the next 
> window, click "Create Pull Request" again. PR created and ready to be 
> discussed, edited, merged
>
> I hope this helps!
>
> A minor thing I found in your Spartan theme are the missing 
> select-tag-background and select-tag-foreground colors, you could probably 
> just add them while you're there,
> but such a PR is not final and missing parts can always be added / changed 
> later on
>
> all the best,
> btc
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Re: [tw5] Re: [theme] Presenting "Mono" theme

[BurningTreeC]

>
> Hi Jeremy,
>
> Thank you!
>
> I  wonder if I have to convert some colors for that? Some of these 
> palettes use rgba colors with opacities, which might not be compatible with 
> some browsers. 
>
> And also, I don't know how to actually request something be put into the 
> core, nor the naming convention for a palette that isn't attached to a 
> theme.  
>
> -jd
>
>>
>>
Hi @JD, I think I can help you with the github part:

1. go to https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/tree/master/core/palettes
2. click "Create new File"
3. give it a name like "Mono.tid"
4. add the following on top of the textarea

title: $:/palettes/Mono
tags: $:/tags/Palette
description: description
name: Mono

5. add a space below these lines
6. insert your palette text-content
7. go down to "Propose new File" and give it a title like "add Mono 
palette" - add a description if you like
8. click "Propose new File"
9. in the following window, click "Create Pull Request" and in the next 
window, click "Create Pull Request" again. PR created and ready to be 
discussed, edited, merged

I hope this helps!

A minor thing I found in your Spartan theme are the missing 
select-tag-background and select-tag-foreground colors, you could probably 
just add them while you're there,
but such a PR is not final and missing parts can always be added / changed 
later on

all the best,
btc

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[tw5] Re: Quinoid v0.0.6alpha

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark S.

This is *not* a request for you to do anything. Just thinking out-load.

The mechanism to "fetch" and auto-install a wiki is great (currently 
"Download Test").

What I'm wondering is if a user like me can configure a version of the tool 
so it can fetch a TW I set-up?

Use Case: I'm thinking of students of film who need a start-up wiki. One 
click setup is better for them, I think.

Just thoughts
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[@TiddlyTweeter]

For email readers. I just updated my note to Mohammad regarding tagging of 
filters in TC as follows

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 10:54:23 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mohammad
>
> Regarding the tagging of filters via   $:/tags/Commander/Filter...
> The problem is that if you use TC, for instance, to help build and test a 
> wiki 
> and then remove TC from the public published version of that wiki, 
> then the filters you made will be orphaned.
>
> UPDATE: Further to the above. There are some important plugins that use 
>  $:/tags/Filter  as part of their working. 
> An important case is PMario's "Bundler" plugin. 
> Since its a great tool for batch Import and Export eventually I'll give it 
> a tab in my TC install. 
> It would be good if it could show its filters in the TC filter bar without 
> having to hack it. 
>
> Hope this is clear? 
>
> Or maybe, better, a  *module to perform set routine tasks* might be added 
> at some point?
> For instance one button press "Clone all TC filters to $:/core/Filters/ 
> tagged   $:/tags/Filter ."
>
> Best wishes
> Josiah
>

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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

[Mohammad]

Dear all,
 Thanks for all your help. I understood how cloning is possible and I hopw 
I can use it in TW-Commander.


Cheers
Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[Mohammad]

Tony,
 Just noted the "Mohammad Filter" is something used in test process and 
will be removed later!
I just saved a sample to see how it works :-)

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:18:19 PM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> What I am saying is if you use the filter drop down to select a filter for 
> example "Mohammad filter", Save that friendly name "Mohammad filter" in a 
> state tiddler such as $:/temp/comandfiltername
> Then just below the filter line add 
> Last selected filter {{$:/temp/comandfiltername}}
>
> This will show what filter was selected to generate the most recent 
> filter. If I return to commander I will immediately see the filter in use 
> is the "Mohammad filter".
>
> I hope that explains it better.
>
> Benefits: 
>
>- A *Last selected filter* Kind of says what commander is doing for you
>- It is clear to see what resulted in the current list of tiddlers, if 
>we used a *named filter*, before we act on them in bulk.
>- Easier and safer to return to commander and continue working without 
>accidently using the *wrong named filter*.
>- Reading the filter and being sure we selected the right one is a 
>little risky, if unsure I select a *named filter and it is displayed 
>for me*
>- What if I accidently selected the wrong named filter, would I 
>realise before I make a bulk update? With a prominent *Last selected 
>filter *this would be safer.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 19:18:36 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tony,
>>  I did not get what exactly you mean and what is its benefit?
>> By the way, if you mean to remember the selected filter, I may highlight 
>> that row in the drop down menu!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 3:10:30 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>>>
>>> Mohammad,
>>>
>>> Looking good. A Suggestion if I may
>>>
>>> When we select from a named filter, could this name be displayed as 
>>> "last filter selected" as it acts as a Title to the current "function of 
>>> the page"
>>>
>>> eg Last filter selected: *Draft Tiddlers*
>>>
>>> Even if someone goes and modifies the filter, the title remains valid. 
>>> If then they save the filter with a new name, this could be set 
>>> eg Last filter selected: *Draft System Tiddlers*
>>>
>>> If someone returns to Commander the current setting will be prominent.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tony 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:30:53 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:

 Announcement: Tiddler Commander
 Date: Feb 12th, 2019
 Status: beta (idea)

 Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
 *

 *Major update: 19th February 2019*

- New: add and remove chars to/from the title was added
- New: add/remove chars uses a non-overwriting mechanism


 *Major update: 18th February 2019*

- Fixed: handling missing tiddlers added
- New: remove chars from the title us added
- Fixed: a specified height is used in ui to prevent collapsing
- *bugs*
   - *remove chars overwrite tiddlers*



 *Major update: 14th February 2019*

- New: bulk tiddler creation using templates
- New: remove fields using drop down menu
- New: preset search filter added
- New: save search filter added
- Fixed: empty suffix/prefix does not delete tiddlers anymore
- Fixed: prevent all overwriting (issue: you cannot force 
overwriting)


 *Minor Update: 13th February 2019*

- Fixed: remove suffix not working
- New: bulk tiddler created has got new name format
- New: added range and select widgets for "create bulk tiddlers"
- New: added delete tiddlers at once operation




 Referring to the discussion here: 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ
 I have prepared a small toolkit called Tiddler Commander or in short 
 Commander. This is a proof of concept and
 both the name and operations can be changed.

 I highly welcome any constructive idea and I hope get feedback from 
 both users and developers.

 I also welcome any collaboration as is discussed in other posts.

 Warning: This is a beta release and is not in form of plugin! Do not 
 import to your own wikis because of the risk of data loss.

 Cheers
 Mohammad





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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[Mohammad]

Hi Josiah,
 That sound useful. It is like a real batch commend to process a sequence 
of tasks.

I add this to wish list.

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 1:03:17 PM UTC+3:30, @TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:
>
> Ciao Mohammad & TonyM 
>
> Regarding MEMORY of previous activity in TC ...
>
> I think TonyM's request is an example of someone seeing how Total 
> Commander can be a real "workhorse" and giving an example of good usage. 
> Maybe the issue here reflects on the issue of Modularity? 
>
> I.e., What needs be in TC now? and what can be added later? The 
> architecture to add features later looks pretty good to me.
>
> In my own case, for instance, longer term, I'd like to be able to *save 
> to a JSON data tiddler the filter in use and all the states of input fields 
> on button push*. For tasks I do repeatedly it would be ideal. But I'm not 
> thinking Mohammad should do that :-).
>
> Best
> Josiah
>
> TonyM wrote:
>>
>> What I am saying is if you use the filter drop down to select a filter 
>> for example "Mohammad filter", Save that friendly name "Mohammad filter" in 
>> a state tiddler such as $:/temp/comandfiltername
>> Then just below the filter line add 
>> Last selected filter {{$:/temp/comandfiltername}}
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[Mohammad]

Thanks Tony!
I added a ticket!

--Mohammad

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[tw5] Re: Multiple Sort rules in TOC

[S. S.]

Hi Colin,

Sorry for your understandable frustration. I believe there is a mistake in 
that help tiddler.

Try following those instructions, except use this change: from *fuzzy* to 
*!!fuzzy*

>


Do let us know if it gives you the wanted result.
I will also initiate a correction of that instruction tiddler.

Regards


On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 4:38:32 PM UTC+7, Ikaro wrote:
>
> Hi TonyM,
> Thanks for your time on this, the thing is that by reading the 
> documentation that I posted, I thought that it was possible to do it and 
> for some reason I was not implementing it correctly.
> Tried with nsort and not much success.
>
> Thank you anyway.
> Regards
> Colin
>
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[tw5] Re: Cloning a Tiddler

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I found the   action-setfield  method of silent cloning very interesting. I 
had absolutely no idea that it existed andcan't find this behaviour 
mentioned in docs.

I assume it works because cloning a title clones the tiddler in its context 
of running?

Is it a lucky side effect, or part of planned design?

Best wishes
Josiah

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad

Regarding the tagging of filters via   $:/tags/Commander/Filter...
The problem is that if you use TC to, for instance, to help build and test 
a wiki 
and then remove TC from the public published version of that wiki, then 
the filters you made will be orphaned.

Hope this is clear? 

Or maybe, better, a  *module to perform set routine tasks* might be added 
at some point?
For instance one button press "Clone all TC filters to $:/core/Filters/ 
tagged   $:/tags/Filter ."

Best wishes
Josiah

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Re: [tw5] Possibilities of using Google Apps Scripts?

[CHUN LI]

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for the guide and I will see how far I can go.

May I ask a further question? Can a blank TW file also be created by 
publishing a Google web app? I guess it is about the fundamental 
requirements of creating a TW file vs. the limitation of GAS? 

(I read about Web app on GAS from 
https://developers.google.com/apps-script/guides/web)

So I am thinking, 

   1. Create a Google spreadsheet on my Google drive.
   2. Open Script Editor from the 'Tools' tab in the Google spreadsheet.
   3. Add (write) all the necessary .js, .html, .css code in my TW.html 
   file. Please see a screenshot attached below. GAS use .html file to store 
   all these three types of files. 
   4. Use a .gs file, e.g. getData.gs, to read all the data from the Google 
   spreadsheet. The data can be used to create a .json tiddler, and create 
   tiddlers.
   5. Publish as a web app.
   6. The Google spreadsheet can be updated using a Google form. The form 
   can also be a tiddler and be used to edit (add) tiddlers. 
   7. Multiple users can work on the Google spreadsheet. Their Google 
   logins will be collected and used as tiddler authors.

[image: Screen Shot 2019-02-20 at 10.12.53 PM.png] 






















Thanks,

Chun


On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 12:25:32 AM UTC+13, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Chun
>
> As I have been using Google Apps Scripts (GAS) and knowing TiddlyWiki for 
> about 1 year, I am trying to find out the possibilities of (re) writing 
> TiddlyWiki in GAS. The HTML services in GAS allows client side javascript, 
> CSS and HTML (https://developers.google.com/apps-script/guides/html). 
> Google Sheets might be a place to store (or keep a copy of) tiddlers, or be 
> used to produce a data tiddler. Google also has this (
> https://developers.google.com/apps-script/api/quickstart/nodejs) to make 
> node.js commands to GAS API.  
>
>
> Thanks! I think you are correct, there is a fascinating opportunity to 
> make an adaptation of TW that is served by GAS and can save changes back to 
> it. It would be a nice straightforward user experience too.
>
> I think the easiest way to get started would be to create a new 
> syncadaptor that loads and saves tiddlers via the GAS APIs. Then one could 
> serve a blank TW file that includes that plugin, and at startup it would 
> load the required tiddlers from the server. The next step might be to bake 
> tiddlers into the HTML file when it is first served.
>
> I'm not sure that I will personally have time to investigate this 
> opportunity in the near future, but I'd be very happy to help guide other 
> developers who might want to take up the challenge...
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>  
> Did I misunderstand anything? Or this sounds like a plan? Sorry if I 
> overlooked the Copyright of Tiddlywiki as I don't intend to do so. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Chun 
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[tw5] Re: Multiple Sort rules in TOC

[Ikaro]

Hi TonyM,
Thanks for your time on this, the thing is that by reading the 
documentation that I posted, I thought that it was possible to do it and 
for some reason I was not implementing it correctly.
Tried with nsort and not much success.

Thank you anyway.
Regards
Colin

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 3:46:33 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> If you do change the sort order in the standard TOC it will apply to 
> everything in the toc. consider using the nsort[] nsortcs and other 
> variations.
>
> You can sort these manually using the tag pill for the Journal tag, you 
> can drag and reorder in the tag pill list of tiddlers.
>
> Perhaps we/you could build your own toc that looks for a toc-sort field in 
> each tiddler, such that Journal could have a "toc-sort" of "+[nsort[]]" 
> that is appended to the filter and the toc would honor it for that level 
> only.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Monday, 18 February 2019 22:50:49 UTC+11, Ikaro0 Oladed wrote:
>>
>> Hi, sorry if this has been answered already but I've been searching with 
>> "tc-table-of-contents sort journal" and similar without success.
>>
>> The scenario is the following:
>>
>> I've follow documentation on how to create a Contents tab in side bar:
>> - Create tiddler with tag "$:/tags/SideBar"
>> - Use div with macro call  "<> "sort[title]"  >>
>>
>> But with this set the expandable section of journal on side bar shows 
>> sorted by name and I would like it to be sorted by created date, only for 
>> Journal.
>>
>> I saw on the following documentation a solution that does not seams to 
>> work:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/static/How%2520to%2520change%2520the%2520sort%2520order%2520of%2520sub-branches%2520in%2520a%2520TOC%2520macro.html
>>
>> As you can see, Journal entries are sorted by name as SortTests and the 
>> desired outcome would be a sorted by created for journal.
>>
>> [image: tidd.png]
>>
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad & TonyM 

Regarding MEMORY of previous activity in TC ...

I think TonyM's request is an example of someone seeing how Total Commander 
can be a real "workhorse" and giving an example of good usage. Maybe the 
issue here reflects on the issue of Modularity? 

I.e., What needs be in TC now? and what can be added later? The 
architecture to add features later looks pretty good to me.

In my own case, for instance, longer term, I'd like to be able to *save to 
a JSON data tiddler the filter in use and all the states of input fields on 
button push*. For tasks I do repeatedly it would be ideal. But I'm not 
thinking Mohammad should do that :-).

Best
Josiah

TonyM wrote:
>
> What I am saying is if you use the filter drop down to select a filter for 
> example "Mohammad filter", Save that friendly name "Mohammad filter" in a 
> state tiddler such as $:/temp/comandfiltername
> Then just below the filter line add 
> Last selected filter {{$:/temp/comandfiltername}}
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

What I am saying is if you use the filter drop down to select a filter for 
example "Mohammad filter", Save that friendly name "Mohammad filter" in a 
state tiddler such as $:/temp/comandfiltername
Then just below the filter line add 
Last selected filter {{$:/temp/comandfiltername}}

This will show what filter was selected to generate the most recent filter. 
If I return to commander I will immediately see the filter in use is the 
"Mohammad filter".

I hope that explains it better.

Benefits: 

   - A *Last selected filter* Kind of says what commander is doing for you
   - It is clear to see what resulted in the current list of tiddlers, if 
   we used a *named filter*, before we act on them in bulk.
   - Easier and safer to return to commander and continue working without 
   accidently using the *wrong named filter*.
   - Reading the filter and being sure we selected the right one is a 
   little risky, if unsure I select a *named filter and it is displayed for 
   me*
   - What if I accidently selected the wrong named filter, would I realise 
   before I make a bulk update? With a prominent *Last selected filter *this 
   would be safer.

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, 20 February 2019 19:18:36 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Tony,
>  I did not get what exactly you mean and what is its benefit?
> By the way, if you mean to remember the selected filter, I may highlight 
> that row in the drop down menu!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 3:10:30 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad,
>>
>> Looking good. A Suggestion if I may
>>
>> When we select from a named filter, could this name be displayed as "last 
>> filter selected" as it acts as a Title to the current "function of the page"
>>
>> eg Last filter selected: *Draft Tiddlers*
>>
>> Even if someone goes and modifies the filter, the title remains valid. If 
>> then they save the filter with a new name, this could be set 
>> eg Last filter selected: *Draft System Tiddlers*
>>
>> If someone returns to Commander the current setting will be prominent.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony 
>>
>> On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:30:53 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Announcement: Tiddler Commander
>>> Date: Feb 12th, 2019
>>> Status: beta (idea)
>>>
>>> Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
>>> *
>>>
>>> *Major update: 19th February 2019*
>>>
>>>- New: add and remove chars to/from the title was added
>>>- New: add/remove chars uses a non-overwriting mechanism
>>>
>>>
>>> *Major update: 18th February 2019*
>>>
>>>- Fixed: handling missing tiddlers added
>>>- New: remove chars from the title us added
>>>- Fixed: a specified height is used in ui to prevent collapsing
>>>- *bugs*
>>>   - *remove chars overwrite tiddlers*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Major update: 14th February 2019*
>>>
>>>- New: bulk tiddler creation using templates
>>>- New: remove fields using drop down menu
>>>- New: preset search filter added
>>>- New: save search filter added
>>>- Fixed: empty suffix/prefix does not delete tiddlers anymore
>>>- Fixed: prevent all overwriting (issue: you cannot force 
>>>overwriting)
>>>
>>>
>>> *Minor Update: 13th February 2019*
>>>
>>>- Fixed: remove suffix not working
>>>- New: bulk tiddler created has got new name format
>>>- New: added range and select widgets for "create bulk tiddlers"
>>>- New: added delete tiddlers at once operation
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Referring to the discussion here: 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ
>>> I have prepared a small toolkit called Tiddler Commander or in short 
>>> Commander. This is a proof of concept and
>>> both the name and operations can be changed.
>>>
>>> I highly welcome any constructive idea and I hope get feedback from both 
>>> users and developers.
>>>
>>> I also welcome any collaboration as is discussed in other posts.
>>>
>>> Warning: This is a beta release and is not in form of plugin! Do not 
>>> import to your own wikis because of the risk of data loss.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: WikiText for Dummies

[S. S.]

The last line of the WikiText tiddler on TiddlyWiki/Dev 
 documentation for developers shows 
this example:

WikiText:
<$button message="tm-close-tiddler">Close Me! 

To help me better phrase what I say in WikiText for Beginners,I want to 
understand the connection of how :
Showing an example using a Widget 
- relates to - 
This being an example of WikiText

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Re: [tw5] Re: [theme] Presenting "Mono" theme

[Mohammad]

Great idea Jeremy,
 The theme and pallets by JD are useful an really gives a new face to TW.
Thank you for incorporating them into the core.

Best
Mohammad

On Tuesday, February 19, 2019 at 3:48:31 PM UTC+3:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi JD
>
> These are great. I'd be interested in having them in the core: most of us 
> struggle to make palettes that are effective, and yet they are quite small.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
> --
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> jer...@jermolene.com 
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 18 Feb 2019, at 15:28, E Browns > 
> wrote:
>
> http://j.d.palette.tiddlyspot.com/Hi BTC,
>
> Thank you! Spartan Day and Night are my actual favorites. 
>
> It's not a problem for me to update http://j.d.palette.tiddlyspot.com/ 
> with your suggestion, as I constantly change my personal copy of the 
> palette anyway (I tend towards redder colors more, recently. Sometimes 
> harsh white accents when the mood strikes)
>
> -jd
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 8:17 PM BurningTreeC  > wrote:
>
>> Hi JD, forgive me that I'm using this thread for something not directly 
>> related:
>>
>>
>> I like your palettes a lot and often happen to just drag one over to one 
>> of my wikies, especially the spartan night palette
>> There's one stopper that needs me to add a line of css for the spartan 
>> night palette every time, it's the color of the tc-tiddlylink buttons and 
>> a-tags
>>
>> I use a slightly more readable color for them (#5656f3;)
>>
>>
>> Would you mind giving it a shot if it also improves readability for you? 
>> I think it would improve the palette a lot
>>
>> all the best,
>> btc
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[tw5] Re: Tiddler Commander

[Mohammad]

Hi Tony,
 I did not get what exactly you mean and what is its benefit?
By the way, if you mean to remember the selected filter, I may highlight 
that row in the drop down menu!

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, February 20, 2019 at 3:10:30 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> Looking good. A Suggestion if I may
>
> When we select from a named filter, could this name be displayed as "last 
> filter selected" as it acts as a Title to the current "function of the page"
>
> eg Last filter selected: *Draft Tiddlers*
>
> Even if someone goes and modifies the filter, the title remains valid. If 
> then they save the filter with a new name, this could be set 
> eg Last filter selected: *Draft System Tiddlers*
>
> If someone returns to Commander the current setting will be prominent.
>
> Regards
> Tony 
>
> On Wednesday, 13 February 2019 02:30:53 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Announcement: Tiddler Commander
>> Date: Feb 12th, 2019
>> Status: beta (idea)
>>
>> Demo: *https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/ 
>> *
>>
>> *Major update: 19th February 2019*
>>
>>- New: add and remove chars to/from the title was added
>>- New: add/remove chars uses a non-overwriting mechanism
>>
>>
>> *Major update: 18th February 2019*
>>
>>- Fixed: handling missing tiddlers added
>>- New: remove chars from the title us added
>>- Fixed: a specified height is used in ui to prevent collapsing
>>- *bugs*
>>   - *remove chars overwrite tiddlers*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Major update: 14th February 2019*
>>
>>- New: bulk tiddler creation using templates
>>- New: remove fields using drop down menu
>>- New: preset search filter added
>>- New: save search filter added
>>- Fixed: empty suffix/prefix does not delete tiddlers anymore
>>- Fixed: prevent all overwriting (issue: you cannot force overwriting)
>>
>>
>> *Minor Update: 13th February 2019*
>>
>>- Fixed: remove suffix not working
>>- New: bulk tiddler created has got new name format
>>- New: added range and select widgets for "create bulk tiddlers"
>>- New: added delete tiddlers at once operation
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Referring to the discussion here: 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/BxJsWuae-Uc/JapAx4mtBgAJ
>> I have prepared a small toolkit called Tiddler Commander or in short 
>> Commander. This is a proof of concept and
>> both the name and operations can be changed.
>>
>> I highly welcome any constructive idea and I hope get feedback from both 
>> users and developers.
>>
>> I also welcome any collaboration as is discussed in other posts.
>>
>> Warning: This is a beta release and is not in form of plugin! Do not 
>> import to your own wikis because of the risk of data loss.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>>

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