[tw5] Re: Timelines Plugin

[Mohammad]

Hi Christian,
 I am glad you found Timelines useful! Don't forget you can use custom 
template and customize the content to be displayed
in many ways! No need to know how Timelines work just use simple TW 
template!

Cheers
Mohammad

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 7:23:30 PM UTC+4:30, Christian Macedo wrote:
>
> second that sentiment. I've been looking for a way to do this for ages.
> Use case? Sorting out the sequence of events on news items where the 
> information comes in dribs and drabs.

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[Mohammad]

One more suggestion

It is good if a small plugin in Tiddlywiki side (NOT browser itself) send a 
signal to Polly when the save button in Wiki id pressed for example write a 
small txt file in a Temp or download folder
and then Polly understand there was an event to take action!


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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[Mohammad]

Thats true!

As Mario recommended, I recommend to have some simple setting just to make 
backup and other advanced for making zip etc.
The download folder on windows is known so set it and lets user only change 
the user name

One confusion is! I have set the automatic backup I changed something in 
browser and save it and want to refresh! What should I do
stay 60 sec to see if polly have done her job? Or stop polly make a backup 
using O (once) and return to browser!

One solution: Instead of time period for saving lets polly scan the 
download folder and if a change is detected then start the backup!
I recommend what Riz has used in his Timimi addon 

--Mohammad

On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 12:08:07 AM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> The ini file itself, however it's created, is very simple. Much simpler 
>> than the JSON files required for Bob or TiddlyServer. 
>> We should probably include a sample ini for people who want to hand-roll 
>> their own.
>>
>
> "Ini" is a very old standard. It is probably the simplest setting system 
> ever.
>
> Polly does not need anything more complex. And ini files in her do a lot, 
> simply.
>
> Part of our issue is we developed already something so featured (Restore, 
> Backup. Zip Archive, Parrot)  that can be run via a menu, or automated in 
> two ways.
>
> The very richness is a sign we got  it right. I think Mark & I stumbled on 
> an obvious that is very rich. I am not even sure even we yet understand 
> fully ourselves yet  the territory we wander in.
>
> But I do think documentation needs work because Polly is  SO flex
>
> TT
>
>
>
>
>> Here's a variation of one I actually use. Note that currently you have to 
>> specifically tell polly what files you want to 
>> restore. We hope to add the ability for polly to automatically restore 
>> all the directories in a given directory. That ability
>> will have to come with some caveats. For instance, if someone wanted 
>> files to be automatically restored that are 
>> in the downloads directory, there might be a clash of files.
>>
>> Thanks !
>>
>>
>> [general]
>> downloaddir=C:\users\mark\Downloads
>> backupzipdir=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\polly-backup-zip
>> backupdir=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\polly-backup
>> ; --- TIMING: seconds to wait between checks
>> waitseconds=60
>> ; --- WIKIS DIRECTORY (optional): useful if all wiki are nest under one 
>> directory
>> wikidir=C:\temp\tony
>> ; --- LIST OF WIKIS FOR RESTORE PROCESS
>> [wikis]
>> ;file1=C:\temp\wikis\notes\noter.html
>> ;file2=C:\temp\wikis\todu.html
>> file3=C:\temp\wikis\to.du.htm
>> ;file4=D:\data\Wikis\notes\notes.html
>> file5=D:\data\TW2014\Todo.html
>> ;file6=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\notees-n-scratches.html
>> file7=D:\data\Wikis\bible\Bible.html 
>> ;file8=D:\data\TW2014\Galaxy_Notes.html
>> ;file9=D:\data\TW2014\TW-Personal-v5.html 
>> ; --- LIST OF PARROTS
>> ;   Parrots are copies of files "restored" to locations other than the 
>> ;   original location. They are matched with the original restore
>> ;   files by stem and extension.
>> [parrots]
>> file1=C:\temp\parrots\notees-n-scratches.html
>> file3=C:\temp\parrots\to.du.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 11:35:16 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Great job Mark,
>>>  I have downloaded and run the polly.bat created setting.ini and 
>>> followed instruction!
>>>
>>> I think normal users need simpler setting!
>>>
>>> One question:
>>>  Why the downloads do not removed from download folder? This 
>>> make C:\Users\xxx\Downloads
>>> quickly loads with a lot of .html files!
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> If I open a wiki and save using Chrome does polly take it to 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 9:23:18 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:

 Github is so incredibly opaque!

 I haven't had a chance to check out your code at all -- I was spending 
 my time fighting the GH monster, and 
 still not sure I have it right.

 But for the moment, the code has a home at:

 https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/master

 There is a developer branch (select from the branch drop-down) which 
 includes your test files. So people
 can decide if they want just the basics or the full kit.

 I haven't run your update, but I notice that shim.bat is gone. 
 Hopefully that was deliberate? I think when
 things are settled we'll just use the base name for the main powershell 
 script rather than a name-by-version
 one.


 Thanks!

 On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:11:52 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> PMario
>
> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, 
>> if I run them in the wrong order.
>
>
> That is untrue! Don't scare people off! 
>
> None of them will do anything but throw error messages until you 
> unlocked them and provide settings.
>
> The other download, the test system, is 

[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[Mohammad]

It seems polly confuses to detect this file

test-1.0.0.html

While it was successful to backup test1.html

--Mohammad

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Re: [tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[TonyM]

Post script

This thread implies the impending release of 5.1.20, without asking for a 
commitment, have we an indicator when this may happen? 

I am about to put something into "the wild" and would love to include 
5.1.20 features. In fact remove some workarounds even if 5.1.21 follows 
shortly after.


yours humbly
Tony



On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 8:25:34 AM UTC+10, TonyM wrote:
>
> I'd prefer cute

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[tw5] Re: Transcluding an image from another tiddler's icon field

[TonyM]

Adrien,

Your example is so complex, I would advise extracting the simplest example 
of the problem you face and sharing that. You may even solve your problem  
in the process. It is a lot to ask volunteers more than you have to. 

Tiddlywiki documents its own mechanisiums well. If you can find it in the 
tiddlywiki.com documentation try looking inside tiddletwiki itself. For 
example the title is displayed on tiddlers with 
$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate/title and this will show the icon if it is 
provided. Looking inside this tiddler we see it access the icon as follows

<$set name="foregroundColor" value={{!!color}}>
>>
<$transclude tiddler={{!!icon}}/>



Will this work for your problem?

Otherwise please restate the issue with a minimal case if at all possible.

Regards
Tony

On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 4:42:15 AM UTC+10, Adrien F wrote:
>
> On multiple occasions I need to have buttons display the icon from the 
> "icon" field of another tiddler. In this other tiddler the "icon" field is 
> the name of a tiddler that is not an image but is using a FontAwesome 
> macro. (I also tried on multiple occasions using an svg as the tiddler 
> referenced by the icon field, so I don't think that's the problem)
>
> I tried my best for the past week to find a solution to this problem by 
> myself with online resources but I can't find this very topic mentioned 
> anywhere and the solution keeps eluding me.
>
> For instance this is the content of a modified tabs macro I'm using :
>
> Enter code here...\define viewmode-icon-tabs(tabsList,default,state:
> "$:/state/tab",class,template,buttonTemplate,retain)
> 
> 
> <$list filter="$tabsList$" variable="currentTab"><$set name=
> "save-currentTiddler" value=<>><$tiddler tiddler=<<
> currentTab>>><$button set=<> setTo=<> 
> default="$default$" selectedClass="tc-tab-selected" tooltip={{!!tooltip}}>
> <$tiddler tiddler=<>>
> <$set name="tv-wikilinks" value="no">
>
> <$setvars
> _currentTab=<>
> _currentTabIcon=[[currentTab!!icon]]
> tabIcon="\{{\ currentTabIcon \}}\">
>
> <>
> <$image src=<> />
>
>
> <$transclude tiddler=<> field="role"/>
>
> <$transclude tiddler="$buttonTemplate$" mode="inline">
> <$macrocall $name="tabIconPath" $type="image/svg+xml" $output="image/svg+
> xml"/>
> 
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <$list filter="$tabsList$" variable="currentTab">
>
> <$reveal type="match" state=<> text=<> 
> default="$default$" retain="""$retain$""">
>
> <$transclude tiddler="$template$" mode="block">
>
> <$transclude tiddler=<> mode="block"/>
>
> 
>
> 
>
> 
> 
> 
> \end
>
>
> And this is the result whatever I try with my variables. Developper tools 
> confirm that the image src is undefined.
>
> [image: no-tab-icons.png]
>
> The closest I got to transcluding the icon was with using 
>
> <$transclude tiddler=<> field="role"/>
>
> ... wich made the tabs display the name of the tiddler containing the 
> FontAwesome macro.
>
> Hints ?
>

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[tw5] Re: Code Patter Wanted - List only items in both lists

[TonyM]

Bimlas

As I read this 

   - the first set/run is listed
   - The second run lists those in the first set but not those in the 
   second set 
   - Then the filter as a whole is the first set but *not* those "*not* in 
   the second set"
   - This is a double negative so in effect saying is list the first set 
   but *only* those in the second set.

I now face the challenges of getting the set names from fields, and 
converting the set names into the list of members in those sets and passing 
those into your suggested filter.

Thanks
Tony


On Friday, August 9, 2019 at 12:18:07 AM UTC+10, bimlas wrote:
>
> Not the best, but at least it works. [a b c] is the first set, [b c d] is 
> the second.
>
> [enlist[a b c]] -[enlist[a b c]!enlist[b c d]]
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[TonyM]

I'd prefer cute

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Looking for Mat's side editor

[Mat]

Birthe C wrote:
>
> As far as I remember, you had an earlier version working a little 
> different. 
>

Aha, I don't remember this, thanks. In the ...eventual... update I should 
at least remove the drag handle if it is not usable.

<:-) 

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[Mohammad]

Thanks for clarification Mark!

This is a useful piece of work and I see it works as a small portable 
backup tool!

--Mohammad

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 11:24:05 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> I haven't tried the setting.ini creator yet -- That's Josiah's production. 
> He's says he's not a programmer, but I'm
> not so sure ;-)
>
> The ini file itself, however it's created, is very simple. Much simpler 
> than the JSON files required for Bob or TiddlyServer. 
> We should probably include a sample ini for people who want 
> to hand-roll their own.
>
> Here's a variation of one I actually use. Note that currently you have to 
> specifically tell polly what files you want to 
> restore. We hope to add the ability for polly to automatically restore all 
> the directories in a given directory. That ability
> will have to come with some caveats. For instance, if someone wanted files 
> to be automatically restored that are 
> in the downloads directory, there might be a clash of files.
>
> Thanks !
>
>
> [general]
> downloaddir=C:\users\mark\Downloads
> backupzipdir=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\polly-backup-zip
> backupdir=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\polly-backup
> ; --- TIMING: seconds to wait between checks
> waitseconds=60
> ; --- WIKIS DIRECTORY (optional): useful if all wiki are nest under one 
> directory
> wikidir=C:\temp\tony
> ; --- LIST OF WIKIS FOR RESTORE PROCESS
> [wikis]
> ;file1=C:\temp\wikis\notes\noter.html
> ;file2=C:\temp\wikis\todu.html
> file3=C:\temp\wikis\to.du.htm
> ;file4=D:\data\Wikis\notes\notes.html
> file5=D:\data\TW2014\Todo.html
> ;file6=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\notees-n-scratches.html
> file7=D:\data\Wikis\bible\Bible.html 
> ;file8=D:\data\TW2014\Galaxy_Notes.html
> ;file9=D:\data\TW2014\TW-Personal-v5.html 
> ; --- LIST OF PARROTS
> ;   Parrots are copies of files "restored" to locations other than the 
> ;   original location. They are matched with the original restore
> ;   files by stem and extension.
> [parrots]
> file1=C:\temp\parrots\notees-n-scratches.html
> file3=C:\temp\parrots\to.du.htm
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 11:35:16 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Great job Mark,
>>  I have downloaded and run the polly.bat created setting.ini and followed 
>> instruction!
>>
>> I think normal users need simpler setting!
>>
>> One question:
>>  Why the downloads do not removed from download folder? This 
>> make C:\Users\xxx\Downloads
>> quickly loads with a lot of .html files!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> If I open a wiki and save using Chrome does polly take it to 
>>
>> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 9:23:18 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Github is so incredibly opaque!
>>>
>>> I haven't had a chance to check out your code at all -- I was spending 
>>> my time fighting the GH monster, and 
>>> still not sure I have it right.
>>>
>>> But for the moment, the code has a home at:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/master
>>>
>>> There is a developer branch (select from the branch drop-down) which 
>>> includes your test files. So people
>>> can decide if they want just the basics or the full kit.
>>>
>>> I haven't run your update, but I notice that shim.bat is gone. Hopefully 
>>> that was deliberate? I think when
>>> things are settled we'll just use the base name for the main powershell 
>>> script rather than a name-by-version
>>> one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:11:52 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 PMario

 The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, 
> if I run them in the wrong order.


 That is untrue! Don't scare people off! 

 None of them will do anything but throw error messages until you 
 unlocked them and provide settings.

 The other download, the test system, is potentially dangerous but I 
 factored that in to prevent it running unless it is in a defined test 
 environment.

 BUT,* I do acknowledge* that Mark & I chose to do development in 
 public here, rather than do it through GitHub. That is not normal & maybe 
 confusing!

 Best wishes
 TT

 On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:38:20 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> ... Why do I need this info?
>
> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, 
> if I run them in the wrong order.
>
> have fun!
> mario
>


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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> The ini file itself, however it's created, is very simple. Much simpler 
> than the JSON files required for Bob or TiddlyServer. 
> We should probably include a sample ini for people who want to hand-roll 
> their own.
>

"Ini" is a very old standard. It is probably the simplest setting system 
ever.

Polly does not need anything more complex. And ini files in her do a lot, 
simply.

Part of our issue is we developed already something so featured (Restore, 
Backup. Zip Archive, Parrot)  that can be run via a menu, or automated in 
two ways.

The very richness is a sign we got  it right. I think Mark & I stumbled on 
an obvious that is very rich. I am not even sure even we yet understand 
fully ourselves yet  the territory we wander in.

But I do think documentation needs work because Polly is  SO flex

TT




> Here's a variation of one I actually use. Note that currently you have to 
> specifically tell polly what files you want to 
> restore. We hope to add the ability for polly to automatically restore all 
> the directories in a given directory. That ability
> will have to come with some caveats. For instance, if someone wanted files 
> to be automatically restored that are 
> in the downloads directory, there might be a clash of files.
>
> Thanks !
>
>
> [general]
> downloaddir=C:\users\mark\Downloads
> backupzipdir=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\polly-backup-zip
> backupdir=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\polly-backup
> ; --- TIMING: seconds to wait between checks
> waitseconds=60
> ; --- WIKIS DIRECTORY (optional): useful if all wiki are nest under one 
> directory
> wikidir=C:\temp\tony
> ; --- LIST OF WIKIS FOR RESTORE PROCESS
> [wikis]
> ;file1=C:\temp\wikis\notes\noter.html
> ;file2=C:\temp\wikis\todu.html
> file3=C:\temp\wikis\to.du.htm
> ;file4=D:\data\Wikis\notes\notes.html
> file5=D:\data\TW2014\Todo.html
> ;file6=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\notees-n-scratches.html
> file7=D:\data\Wikis\bible\Bible.html 
> ;file8=D:\data\TW2014\Galaxy_Notes.html
> ;file9=D:\data\TW2014\TW-Personal-v5.html 
> ; --- LIST OF PARROTS
> ;   Parrots are copies of files "restored" to locations other than the 
> ;   original location. They are matched with the original restore
> ;   files by stem and extension.
> [parrots]
> file1=C:\temp\parrots\notees-n-scratches.html
> file3=C:\temp\parrots\to.du.htm
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 11:35:16 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Great job Mark,
>>  I have downloaded and run the polly.bat created setting.ini and followed 
>> instruction!
>>
>> I think normal users need simpler setting!
>>
>> One question:
>>  Why the downloads do not removed from download folder? This 
>> make C:\Users\xxx\Downloads
>> quickly loads with a lot of .html files!
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> If I open a wiki and save using Chrome does polly take it to 
>>
>> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 9:23:18 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Github is so incredibly opaque!
>>>
>>> I haven't had a chance to check out your code at all -- I was spending 
>>> my time fighting the GH monster, and 
>>> still not sure I have it right.
>>>
>>> But for the moment, the code has a home at:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/master
>>>
>>> There is a developer branch (select from the branch drop-down) which 
>>> includes your test files. So people
>>> can decide if they want just the basics or the full kit.
>>>
>>> I haven't run your update, but I notice that shim.bat is gone. Hopefully 
>>> that was deliberate? I think when
>>> things are settled we'll just use the base name for the main powershell 
>>> script rather than a name-by-version
>>> one.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:11:52 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 PMario

 The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, 
> if I run them in the wrong order.


 That is untrue! Don't scare people off! 

 None of them will do anything but throw error messages until you 
 unlocked them and provide settings.

 The other download, the test system, is potentially dangerous but I 
 factored that in to prevent it running unless it is in a defined test 
 environment.

 BUT,* I do acknowledge* that Mark & I chose to do development in 
 public here, rather than do it through GitHub. That is not normal & maybe 
 confusing!

 Best wishes
 TT

 On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:38:20 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> ... Why do I need this info?
>
> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, 
> if I run them in the wrong order.
>
> have fun!
> mario
>


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[tw5] Re: TW5 Looking for Mat's side editor

[Birthe C]

Hi Mat,

As far as I remember, you had an earlier version working a little 
different. I remember fiddling around with your stylesheet to make it work 
on my small screen. The last version is absolutely the easiest to use and 
always fit.


Birthe

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Hi Mohammad,

I haven't tried the setting.ini creator yet -- That's Josiah's production. 
He's says he's not a programmer, but I'm
not so sure ;-)

The ini file itself, however it's created, is very simple. Much simpler 
than the JSON files required for Bob or TiddlyServer. 
We should probably include a sample ini for people who want 
to hand-roll their own.

Here's a variation of one I actually use. Note that currently you have to 
specifically tell polly what files you want to 
restore. We hope to add the ability for polly to automatically restore all 
the directories in a given directory. That ability
will have to come with some caveats. For instance, if someone wanted files 
to be automatically restored that are 
in the downloads directory, there might be a clash of files.

Thanks !


[general]
downloaddir=C:\users\mark\Downloads
backupzipdir=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\polly-backup-zip
backupdir=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\polly-backup
; --- TIMING: seconds to wait between checks
waitseconds=60
; --- WIKIS DIRECTORY (optional): useful if all wiki are nest under one 
directory
wikidir=C:\temp\tony
; --- LIST OF WIKIS FOR RESTORE PROCESS
[wikis]
;file1=C:\temp\wikis\notes\noter.html
;file2=C:\temp\wikis\todu.html
file3=C:\temp\wikis\to.du.htm
;file4=D:\data\Wikis\notes\notes.html
file5=D:\data\TW2014\Todo.html
;file6=C:\Users\Mark\Downloads\notees-n-scratches.html
file7=D:\data\Wikis\bible\Bible.html 
;file8=D:\data\TW2014\Galaxy_Notes.html
;file9=D:\data\TW2014\TW-Personal-v5.html 
; --- LIST OF PARROTS
;   Parrots are copies of files "restored" to locations other than the 
;   original location. They are matched with the original restore
;   files by stem and extension.
[parrots]
file1=C:\temp\parrots\notees-n-scratches.html
file3=C:\temp\parrots\to.du.htm




On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 11:35:16 AM UTC-7, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Great job Mark,
>  I have downloaded and run the polly.bat created setting.ini and followed 
> instruction!
>
> I think normal users need simpler setting!
>
> One question:
>  Why the downloads do not removed from download folder? This 
> make C:\Users\xxx\Downloads
> quickly loads with a lot of .html files!
>
> --Mohammad
>
> If I open a wiki and save using Chrome does polly take it to 
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 9:23:18 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Github is so incredibly opaque!
>>
>> I haven't had a chance to check out your code at all -- I was spending my 
>> time fighting the GH monster, and 
>> still not sure I have it right.
>>
>> But for the moment, the code has a home at:
>>
>> https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/master
>>
>> There is a developer branch (select from the branch drop-down) which 
>> includes your test files. So people
>> can decide if they want just the basics or the full kit.
>>
>> I haven't run your update, but I notice that shim.bat is gone. Hopefully 
>> that was deliberate? I think when
>> things are settled we'll just use the base name for the main powershell 
>> script rather than a name-by-version
>> one.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:11:52 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> PMario
>>>
>>> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if 
 I run them in the wrong order.
>>>
>>>
>>> That is untrue! Don't scare people off! 
>>>
>>> None of them will do anything but throw error messages until you 
>>> unlocked them and provide settings.
>>>
>>> The other download, the test system, is potentially dangerous but I 
>>> factored that in to prevent it running unless it is in a defined test 
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> BUT,* I do acknowledge* that Mark & I chose to do development in public 
>>> here, rather than do it through GitHub. That is not normal & maybe 
>>> confusing!
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:38:20 UTC+2, PMario wrote:

 ... Why do I need this info?

 The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, 
 if I run them in the wrong order.

 have fun!
 mario

>>>

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[tw5] Transcluding an image from another tiddler's icon field

[Adrien F]

On multiple occasions I need to have buttons display the icon from the 
"icon" field of another tiddler. In this other tiddler the "icon" field is 
the name of a tiddler that is not an image but is using a FontAwesome 
macro. (I also tried on multiple occasions using an svg as the tiddler 
referenced by the icon field, so I don't think that's the problem)

I tried my best for the past week to find a solution to this problem by 
myself with online resources but I can't find this very topic mentioned 
anywhere and the solution keeps eluding me.

For instance this is the content of a modified tabs macro I'm using :

Enter code here...\define viewmode-icon-tabs(tabsList,default,state:
"$:/state/tab",class,template,buttonTemplate,retain)


<$list filter="$tabsList$" variable="currentTab"><$set name=
"save-currentTiddler" value=<>><$tiddler tiddler=<<
currentTab>>><$button set=<> setTo=<> default
="$default$" selectedClass="tc-tab-selected" tooltip={{!!tooltip}}>
<$tiddler tiddler=<>>
<$set name="tv-wikilinks" value="no">

<$setvars
_currentTab=<>
_currentTabIcon=[[currentTab!!icon]]
tabIcon="\{{\ currentTabIcon \}}\">

<>
<$image src=<> />


<$transclude tiddler=<> field="role"/>

<$transclude tiddler="$buttonTemplate$" mode="inline">
<$macrocall $name="tabIconPath" $type="image/svg+xml" $output="image/svg+xml
"/>







<$list filter="$tabsList$" variable="currentTab">

<$reveal type="match" state=<> text=<> 
default="$default$" retain="""$retain$""">

<$transclude tiddler="$template$" mode="block">

<$transclude tiddler=<> mode="block"/>








\end


And this is the result whatever I try with my variables. Developper tools 
confirm that the image src is undefined.

[image: no-tab-icons.png]

The closest I got to transcluding the icon was with using 

<$transclude tiddler=<> field="role"/>

... wich made the tabs display the name of the tiddler containing the 
FontAwesome macro.

Hints ?

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[Mohammad]

Great job Mark,
 I have downloaded and run the polly.bat created setting.ini and followed 
instruction!

I think normal users need simpler setting!

One question:
 Why the downloads do not removed from download folder? This 
make C:\Users\xxx\Downloads
quickly loads with a lot of .html files!

--Mohammad

If I open a wiki and save using Chrome does polly take it to 

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 9:23:18 PM UTC+4:30, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Github is so incredibly opaque!
>
> I haven't had a chance to check out your code at all -- I was spending my 
> time fighting the GH monster, and 
> still not sure I have it right.
>
> But for the moment, the code has a home at:
>
> https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/master
>
> There is a developer branch (select from the branch drop-down) which 
> includes your test files. So people
> can decide if they want just the basics or the full kit.
>
> I haven't run your update, but I notice that shim.bat is gone. Hopefully 
> that was deliberate? I think when
> things are settled we'll just use the base name for the main powershell 
> script rather than a name-by-version
> one.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:11:52 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> PMario
>>
>> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if 
>>> I run them in the wrong order.
>>
>>
>> That is untrue! Don't scare people off! 
>>
>> None of them will do anything but throw error messages until you unlocked 
>> them and provide settings.
>>
>> The other download, the test system, is potentially dangerous but I 
>> factored that in to prevent it running unless it is in a defined test 
>> environment.
>>
>> BUT,* I do acknowledge* that Mark & I chose to do development in public 
>> here, rather than do it through GitHub. That is not normal & maybe 
>> confusing!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:38:20 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>>>
>>> ... Why do I need this info?
>>>
>>> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if 
>>> I run them in the wrong order.
>>>
>>> have fun!
>>> mario
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Looking for Mat's side editor

[Jon]

Thanks Mat.

I'll keep a look out for it!

Regards
Jon

On Thursday, 8 August 2019 17:22:41 UTC+1, Mat wrote:
>
> Jon - I think you're right! I suspect this has not worked for a long time 
> and I don't know what might have changed it. I vaguely recall issues,or 
> maybe it was requests, for TW autoexpanding editors to how much content was 
> in them which seems to be relevant for this matter. I don't know. 
>
> An update will come... but, frankly, it might take a lng time.
>
> <:-)
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/master What you did there is great.

Hopefully it will help the anally retentive realise we are (1) serious; (2) 
know what we are doing.

On Thursday, 8 August 2019 19:27:47 UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Github is so incredibly opaque!
>>
>> I haven't had a chance to check out your code at all -- I was spending my 
>> time fighting the GH monster, and 
>> still not sure I have it right.
>>
>> But for the moment, the code has a home at:
>>
>> https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/master
>>
>> There is a developer branch (select from the branch drop-down) which 
>> includes your test files. So people
>> can decide if they want just the basics or the full kit.
>>
>> I haven't run your update, but I notice that shim.bat is gone. Hopefully 
>> that was deliberate? 
>>
>
> yeah. I wanted to see what a forced minimal might look like an behave.
>
> I thought also about reduce and add back.
>
> TT
>
>
>  
>
>> I think when
>> things are settled we'll just use the base name for the main powershell 
>> script rather than a name-by-version
>> one.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:11:52 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> PMario
>>>
>>> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if 
 I run them in the wrong order.
>>>
>>>
>>> That is untrue! Don't scare people off! 
>>>
>>> None of them will do anything but throw error messages until you 
>>> unlocked them and provide settings.
>>>
>>> The other download, the test system, is potentially dangerous but I 
>>> factored that in to prevent it running unless it is in a defined test 
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> BUT,* I do acknowledge* that Mark & I chose to do development in public 
>>> here, rather than do it through GitHub. That is not normal & maybe 
>>> confusing!
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:38:20 UTC+2, PMario wrote:

 ... Why do I need this info?

 The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, 
 if I run them in the wrong order.

 have fun!
 mario

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:
>
> Github is so incredibly opaque!
>
> I haven't had a chance to check out your code at all -- I was spending my 
> time fighting the GH monster, and 
> still not sure I have it right.
>
> But for the moment, the code has a home at:
>
> https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/master
>
> There is a developer branch (select from the branch drop-down) which 
> includes your test files. So people
> can decide if they want just the basics or the full kit.
>
> I haven't run your update, but I notice that shim.bat is gone. Hopefully 
> that was deliberate? 
>

yeah. I wanted to see what a forced minimal might look like an behave.

I thought also about reduce and add back.

TT


 

> I think when
> things are settled we'll just use the base name for the main powershell 
> script rather than a name-by-version
> one.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:11:52 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> PMario
>>
>> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if 
>>> I run them in the wrong order.
>>
>>
>> That is untrue! Don't scare people off! 
>>
>> None of them will do anything but throw error messages until you unlocked 
>> them and provide settings.
>>
>> The other download, the test system, is potentially dangerous but I 
>> factored that in to prevent it running unless it is in a defined test 
>> environment.
>>
>> BUT,* I do acknowledge* that Mark & I chose to do development in public 
>> here, rather than do it through GitHub. That is not normal & maybe 
>> confusing!
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:38:20 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>>>
>>> ... Why do I need this info?
>>>
>>> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if 
>>> I run them in the wrong order.
>>>
>>> have fun!
>>> mario
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Github is so incredibly opaque!

I haven't had a chance to check out your code at all -- I was spending my 
time fighting the GH monster, and 
still not sure I have it right.

But for the moment, the code has a home at:

https://github.com/Marxsal/polly/tree/master

There is a developer branch (select from the branch drop-down) which 
includes your test files. So people
can decide if they want just the basics or the full kit.

I haven't run your update, but I notice that shim.bat is gone. Hopefully 
that was deliberate? I think when
things are settled we'll just use the base name for the main powershell 
script rather than a name-by-version
one.


Thanks!

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:11:52 AM UTC-7, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> PMario
>
> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if I 
>> run them in the wrong order.
>
>
> That is untrue! Don't scare people off! 
>
> None of them will do anything but throw error messages until you unlocked 
> them and provide settings.
>
> The other download, the test system, is potentially dangerous but I 
> factored that in to prevent it running unless it is in a defined test 
> environment.
>
> BUT,* I do acknowledge* that Mark & I chose to do development in public 
> here, rather than do it through GitHub. That is not normal & maybe 
> confusing!
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:38:20 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>>
>> ... Why do I need this info?
>>
>> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if 
>> I run them in the wrong order.
>>
>> have fun!
>> mario
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Looking for Mat's side editor

[Mat]

Jon - I think you're right! I suspect this has not worked for a long time 
and I don't know what might have changed it. I vaguely recall issues,or 
maybe it was requests, for TW autoexpanding editors to how much content was 
in them which seems to be relevant for this matter. I don't know. 

An update will come... but, frankly, it might take a lng time.

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: TW5 Looking for Mat's side editor

[Jon]

Hi Mat,


The gray handles work a treat but it's not possible to move the box upwards 
and from your instructions, it looks like it was originally possible to 
resize the box - unless I'm misreading it...?

   - *Move* it via the two gray handles.
   - *Re-size* width via the lower right corner. Height is automatic from 
   typing.

Would definitely look forward to the update!

Regards
Jon

On Monday, 5 August 2019 07:38:36 UTC+1, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi Mat,
>
> I remember you developed a mini editor in the side bar. I've looked 
> through the threads and it seemed that this fastnewdev.tiddlyspot.com 
> ,
>  
> was the latest iteration but the link is broken.
>
> Can you point me in the right direction?
>
> Regards
> Jon
>

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[tw5] Timelines Plugin

[Christian Macedo]

 second that sentiment. I've been looking for a way to do this for ages.
Use case? Sorting out the sequence of events on news items where the 
information comes in dribs and drabs.

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[tw5] Re: [tw] Re: [TW5] How to list (iterate over) tags of certain tiddler?

[Christian Macedo]

I second that sentiment. I've been looking for a way to do this for ages. 

Use case? Sorting out the sequence of events on news items where the 
information comes in dribs and drabs. 

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[tw5] Re: Code Patter Wanted - List only items in both lists

[bimlas]

Not the best, but at least it works. [a b c] is the first set, [b c d] is the 
second.

[enlist[a b c]] -[enlist[a b c]!enlist[b c d]]

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Re: [tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[@TiddlyTweeter]

How about un-squashed bug, but caught ... every bug has a form.

This is BUG 7947a-variant-42

[image: insect.jpg]


TT

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Re: [tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.21 artwork

[TonyM]

Could I suggest use the 5.1.20 image with a squashed bug on it?

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[tw5] Re: Create a list of tiddler titles using filters and a hierarchy of tags

[TonyM]

Andrew,

All of this is possible, but a full answer will take time. You may want to 
consider the existing TOC macros to see if you can leverage them. However I 
expect if you built your own TOC macro you would get more control. I need 
to get to bed so can't answer in full now.

However I am developing some guides and this may be interesting as a start, 
it demonstrates recursion that makes a TOC work to an unlimited number of 
levels, but you could write one just to process your known number of levels 
and treat each level differently. One macr call the chapter, the next the 
sections the next the paragraphs.

RecursionLike a toc macro, recursion drills down into a heirachical 
structureA sophisticated combination of iteration and selectionThis example 
uses the same filter for each level, it processes all "tagging[]" the 
current tiddler then moves on to the next tiddler in the previous list.

\define each-other-level(filter)
Start level $filter$ <$link to=<> ><$text 
text=<>/>
<$list filter="$filter$">
   <>

End level for "<$text text=<>/>"
\end
\define first-level(filter)
Start all
<$list filter="$filter$">
   <>

End all
\end

Start in TableOfContents
<$tiddler tiddler="TableOfContents">

<>



Or the unfinished

Structured levels *not finished Incomplete and untested*Process a fixed and 
limited set of levels in a heirachieA combination of iteration and 
selectionEach 
town within state within countrySee recursion for an indefinite tree

\define all-countries()
Start all countries
<$list filter="[tag[country]]" variable=country>
   <$macrocall $name=country country-name=<> />

Start all countries

\end

\define country{country-name}
Start $country-name$
<$set name=country value="$country-name$">

<$list filter="[tag[state]country]" variable=state
   <$macrocall $name=state country-name=<> state=<>/>

End $country-name$

\end

\define state{state}
Start $state$
<$set name=state value="$state$">

<$list filter="[#tag[country]]" variable=state
   <$macrocall $name=town state=<>/>

End $country-name$

\end

\define town(town}
Start $town$
<$set name=state value="$town$">

<$list filter="[tag[country]]" variable=state
   <$macrocall $name=state state=<>/>

End $town$

\end
<>


Regards
Tony

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 4:49:55 PM UTC+10, AndrewMc wrote:
>
> Hi All
>
> While I have been using TW for some years (mainly TWc) my usage of TW5 is 
> rather basic and I am having difficulty with what I think is a filter 
> problem.
> I have some book text arranged in tiddlers, tagged with the chapter 
> number, section number, and paragraph number of the text.
>
> For example, all text from Chapter 7 is tagged with [C07]. 
> The first Section of the chapter is a tiddler named [C07S01], containing 
> just the section title, and is tagged with [C07] and [S01].
> This section may contain several paragraphs.
> The first Paragraph is a tiddler named [C07S01P01], and is tagged with 
> [C07], [S01] and [P01].
> The second paragraph is a tiddler named [C07S01P02], and is tagged with 
> [C07], [S01] and [P02].
>
> The second section in chapter 7 is [C07S02] (tagged with [C07] and [S02]).
> and this has paragraphs [C07S02P01] and [C07S02P02] etc.
>
> I am wanting to create a list of the tiddlers that make up this chapter.
> I have created a [Chapter 7] tiddler containing the list-links macro:
> <>
>
> This is a good start, and gets me the equivalent of:
> * [[C07S01]]
> * [[C07S01P01]]
> * [[C07S01P02]]
> * [[C07S02]]
> * [[C07S02P01]]
> * [[C07S02P02]]
>
> However, I am wondering if there is a way to get the following:
> {{C07S01}}
> * [[C07S01P01]]
> * [[C07S01P02]]
> {{C07S02}}
> * [[C07S02P01]]
> * [[C07S02P02]]
>
> That is, I would like to know if there is a way that I can transclude all 
> of the Section tiddlers of a chapter, in numerical order, each followed by 
> a list of the paragraphs within each section. Is this a task for a macro?
>
> For a start, I am struggling to create a filter to obtain just the section 
> tiddlers. I want to get only those tiddlers tagged with a chapter tag [C07] 
> and with a tag beginning with [S], and  without a tag beginning with [P]. 
> Is it possible to do this? Or, should I just add some more tags, [Section] 
> for each section tiddler, and [Paragraph] for each paragraph tiddler?
>
> Any suggestions and ideas appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Andrew Mc
>

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[tw5] Re: Code Patter Wanted - List only items in both lists

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

Thanks but I should have specified 5.1.19 and the two lists are set of 
titles.

Thanks Mohammad for responding.

I went for a long walk to the Gym and back, and the method popped in my 
head. I had actually done it before

It goes something like this wrapped in another list to generate each 
servicename

<$list filter="[is[current]contains:person-services-list[$servicename$]]" 
emptyMessage=" "><$text text=<>/>

But the overall problem makes my head hurt because I need to Get a "list 
name" from one field, obtain a list of services from the "list name" 
tiddler and compare with the person-services-list field on another tiddler.

Arg

Tony


On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 3:43:39 PM UTC+10, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Try this in tiddlywiki 5.1.20
>
> <$list filter="[range[1,15,2]]">
>
> <$list filter="[range[3,12,3]match]" variable="item">
> <>
> 
> 
>
> It only shows those are present in both list!
>
> Mohammad
>

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[tw5] Re: Timelines Plugin

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad

I'd say that issue is most about performance. 

At what point does adding items slow performance?

I don't think its an issue including stuff that is never used in any way. 
Most software has 70% of features no one uses.

Thoughts
Josiah

On Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:56:06 UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Yes, I though these may be the essential tools, but some may be useless 
> for some users like KaTeX.
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 4:20:57 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Ciao Mohammad
>>
>> I definitely think that complete apps is a very good way to go.
>>
>> For end users not so interested in endless add-ons they have to find I 
>> think it could make a big difference.
>>
>> I doubt it makes any significant downgrade in performance having a bunch 
>> of things included they might never use.
>>
>> The point is having utility present they will use.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT 
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:34:54 UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Many thanks Josiah!
>>>
>>> I am working on that and hopefully I will release an edition (I prefer 
>>> to call it app) include some handy plugins.
>>>
>>>
>>>1. Trashbin
>>>2. Todolist
>>>3. Commander
>>>4. Shiraz
>>>5. Semantic colors
>>>6. Timelines
>>>7. Favorites
>>>
>>> And include some other from TW developers.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:06:01 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:

 Very good piece of work!

 It would be very interesting if you ever* brought into one 
 plugin/system all your innovations with *visuality* in TW*.

 I think you are addressing fundamental issues of "informational 
 representation".

 In many ways, better *visual* representation is more important in 
 uptake of use of TW than the more arcane--those that know--development of 
 filters.

 What we lack is *integration*. Why should a user need to find 7 plugins 
 on presentation when ONE will do the job?

 Just thoughts
 Josiah  

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Timelines Plugin

[Mohammad]

Yes, I though these may be the essential tools, but some may be useless for 
some users like KaTeX.

--Mohammad

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 4:20:57 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao Mohammad
>
> I definitely think that complete apps is a very good way to go.
>
> For end users not so interested in endless add-ons they have to find I 
> think it could make a big difference.
>
> I doubt it makes any significant downgrade in performance having a bunch 
> of things included they might never use.
>
> The point is having utility present they will use.
>
> Best wishes
> TT 
>
>  
>
> On Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:34:54 UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Many thanks Josiah!
>>
>> I am working on that and hopefully I will release an edition (I prefer to 
>> call it app) include some handy plugins.
>>
>>
>>1. Trashbin
>>2. Todolist
>>3. Commander
>>4. Shiraz
>>5. Semantic colors
>>6. Timelines
>>7. Favorites
>>
>> And include some other from TW developers.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:06:01 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
>>> Very good piece of work!
>>>
>>> It would be very interesting if you ever* brought into one 
>>> plugin/system all your innovations with *visuality* in TW*.
>>>
>>> I think you are addressing fundamental issues of "informational 
>>> representation".
>>>
>>> In many ways, better *visual* representation is more important in uptake 
>>> of use of TW than the more arcane--those that know--development of filters.
>>>
>>> What we lack is *integration*. Why should a user need to find 7 plugins 
>>> on presentation when ONE will do the job?
>>>
>>> Just thoughts
>>> Josiah  
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Timelines Plugin

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad

I definitely think that complete apps is a very good way to go.

For end users not so interested in endless add-ons they have to find I 
think it could make a big difference.

I doubt it makes any significant downgrade in performance having a bunch of 
things included they might never use.

The point is having utility present they will use.

Best wishes
TT 

 

On Thursday, 8 August 2019 13:34:54 UTC+2, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Many thanks Josiah!
>
> I am working on that and hopefully I will release an edition (I prefer to 
> call it app) include some handy plugins.
>
>
>1. Trashbin
>2. Todolist
>3. Commander
>4. Shiraz
>5. Semantic colors
>6. Timelines
>7. Favorites
>
> And include some other from TW developers.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:06:01 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Very good piece of work!
>>
>> It would be very interesting if you ever* brought into one plugin/system 
>> all your innovations with *visuality* in TW*.
>>
>> I think you are addressing fundamental issues of "informational 
>> representation".
>>
>> In many ways, better *visual* representation is more important in uptake 
>> of use of TW than the more arcane--those that know--development of filters.
>>
>> What we lack is *integration*. Why should a user need to find 7 plugins 
>> on presentation when ONE will do the job?
>>
>> Just thoughts
>> Josiah  
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Timelines Plugin

[Mohammad]

Some other useful plugin

   - Highlight.js
   - KaTeX
   - Codemirror
   - Link links (to Tabs)
   - Print River
   - ...


--Mohammad

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 4:04:54 PM UTC+4:30, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Many thanks Josiah!
>
> I am working on that and hopefully I will release an edition (I prefer to 
> call it app) include some handy plugins.
>
>
>1. Trashbin
>2. Todolist
>3. Commander
>4. Shiraz
>5. Semantic colors
>6. Timelines
>7. Favorites
>
> And include some other from TW developers.
>
> Cheers
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:06:01 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>> Very good piece of work!
>>
>> It would be very interesting if you ever* brought into one plugin/system 
>> all your innovations with *visuality* in TW*.
>>
>> I think you are addressing fundamental issues of "informational 
>> representation".
>>
>> In many ways, better *visual* representation is more important in uptake 
>> of use of TW than the more arcane--those that know--development of filters.
>>
>> What we lack is *integration*. Why should a user need to find 7 plugins 
>> on presentation when ONE will do the job?
>>
>> Just thoughts
>> Josiah  
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Timelines Plugin

[Mohammad]

Many thanks Josiah!

I am working on that and hopefully I will release an editions include some 
handy plugins.


   1. Trashbin
   2. Todolist
   3. Commander
   4. Shiraz
   5. Semantic colors
   6. Timelines
   7. Favorites

And include some other from TW developers.

Cheers
Mohammad


On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 2:06:01 PM UTC+4:30, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Very good piece of work!
>
> It would be very interesting if you ever* brought into one plugin/system 
> all your innovations with *visuality* in TW*.
>
> I think you are addressing fundamental issues of "informational 
> representation".
>
> In many ways, better *visual* representation is more important in uptake 
> of use of TW than the more arcane--those that know--development of filters.
>
> What we lack is *integration*. Why should a user need to find 7 plugins on 
> presentation when ONE will do the job?
>
> Just thoughts
> Josiah  
>

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[tw5] Re: Timelines Plugin

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Very good piece of work!

It would be very interesting if you ever* brought into one plugin/system 
all your innovations with *visuality* in TW*.

I think you are addressing fundamental issues of "informational 
representation".

In many ways, better *visual* representation is more important in uptake of 
use of TW than the more arcane--those that know--development of filters.

What we lack is *integration*. Why should a user need to find 7 plugins on 
presentation when ONE will do the job?

Just thoughts
Josiah  

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[tw5] Re: Timelines Plugin

[Mohammad]

Hi Luis,
 Note that you can add a user field to your tiddler say mydate or other 
name you like!
This filed can be used for storing date e.g 1969-08-17 like *19690817*

Then when call the timeline macro you can tell macro you have the date 
stored in your custom field.

Example
user field date

<>

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 1:52:21 PM UTC+4:30, Luis Gonzalez wrote:
>
>
> Thats wonderfull!!
> This is how it looks:
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Timelines Plugin

[Luis Gonzalez]

Thats wonderfull!!
This is how it looks:

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

PMario

The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if I 
> run them in the wrong order.


That is untrue! Don't scare people off! 

None of them will do anything but throw error messages until you unlocked 
them and provide settings.

The other download, the test system, is potentially dangerous but I 
factored that in to prevent it running unless it is in a defined test 
environment.

BUT,* I do acknowledge* that Mark & I chose to do development in public 
here, rather than do it through GitHub. That is not normal & maybe 
confusing!

Best wishes
TT

On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:38:20 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> ... Why do I need this info?
>
> The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if I 
> run them in the wrong order.
>
> have fun!
> mario
>

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Re: [tw5] \import pragma and $:/tags/Macro

[Mohammad]

Hi Jeremy!
 Thanks for Clarification!

Cheers
Mohammad

On Thursday, August 8, 2019 at 1:31:40 PM UTC+4:30, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad
>
> On 7 Aug 2019, at 20:22, Mohammad > 
> wrote:
>
> Is there any reason that the \import pargma does not work in a tiddler 
> itself tagged with $:/tags/Macro?
>
>
> The import pragma only imports <$set> widgets  (macro definitions are 
> <$set> widgets behind the scenes).
>
> To make it respect nested imports would make the mechanism a bit more 
> complicated because of the possibility of recursion. I think it would 
> actually be hard to guarantee to respect the ordering implied by the 
> nesting of the import widgets.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

To get some idea about permissions see https://tidbits.wiki/polly/polly.html
.

It TOO is in process, but its getting there.

Best wishes
TT

On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:58:50 UTC+2, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Ciao PMario
>
> That isn't a release. Its my passing back & forth with Mark S.
>
> The points you make are all good but premature.
>
> TT
>
> On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:36:11 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> I did download:  01k-TT 
>> 
>>  
>> ... hmmm. There is no README.txt file?
>>
>> As a newbie user I'd expect the following info: 
>>
>>  - A short info, what the project is good for
>>  - An example command and some info what it does
>>- This command should not break anything
>>
>>  - List of files contained in the zip file
>>  - 1 sentence per file, what this file does. 
>>  - A link ... where I can get help
>>  - A link ... Where I can download the latest version
>>  - Some info, if I should and how I can contribute. 
>>  - A license file 
>>
>> -m
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] \import pragma and $:/tags/Macro

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mohammad

> On 7 Aug 2019, at 20:22, Mohammad  wrote:
> 
> Is there any reason that the \import pargma does not work in a tiddler itself 
> tagged with $:/tags/Macro?

The import pragma only imports <$set> widgets  (macro definitions are <$set> 
widgets behind the scenes).

To make it respect nested imports would make the mechanism a bit more 
complicated because of the possibility of recursion. I think it would actually 
be hard to guarantee to respect the ordering implied by the nesting of the 
import widgets.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao PMario

That isn't a release. Its my passing back & forth with Mark S.

The points you make are all good but premature.

TT

On Thursday, 8 August 2019 10:36:11 UTC+2, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi, 
>
> I did download:  01k-TT 
> 
>  
> ... hmmm. There is no README.txt file?
>
> As a newbie user I'd expect the following info: 
>
>  - A short info, what the project is good for
>  - An example command and some info what it does
>- This command should not break anything
>
>  - List of files contained in the zip file
>  - 1 sentence per file, what this file does. 
>  - A link ... where I can get help
>  - A link ... Where I can download the latest version
>  - Some info, if I should and how I can contribute. 
>  - A license file 
>
> -m
>

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[PMario]

... Why do I need this info?

The ZIP contains 5 executables, that can potentially break my system, if I 
run them in the wrong order.

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[PMario]

Hi, 

I did download:  01k-TT 

 
... hmmm. There is no README.txt file?

As a newbie user I'd expect the following info: 

 - A short info, what the project is good for
 - An example command and some info what it does
   - This command should not break anything

 - List of files contained in the zip file
 - 1 sentence per file, what this file does. 
 - A link ... where I can get help
 - A link ... Where I can download the latest version
 - Some info, if I should and how I can contribute. 
 - A license file 

-m

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Re: [tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:
>
>
> * Refactor for relative addresses
> * Use windows variables in definitions
> * Loop back to menu after action
> * Launch in browser per ini list
> * Scan wiki-dirs and add contents to pollies list
>

Maybe add ... 

* Test on PowerShell 6 / PowerShell Core  

TT

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[tw5] Filter Tiddlers by date of current tiddler

[Christian Macedo]

I've created a filter as below which aims to return a set of transcluded 
tiddlers. 


<$list filter="[tag[JournalEntry]]">
<$link to=<>>
  <$view field=created format=date template="0hh:0mm"/>:
 
<$transclude tiddler={{!!title}} mode="block"/>


{{hr}}


My aim is to filter this down to those tiddlers whose created field matches the 
field of the parent tiddler. 

I see that I can do this manually like so:

<$transclude/>

Is there any way that I can pass the value of the parent tiddler into 
field:created?

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[tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mark

Apologies for stop-n-go on this one. 

This time I supply two zips ...

polly-01k-TT.zip ...  01k-TT 


This is a minimalist install, as if it were what a user might first use. 
Settings creation should start on first run.


---

polly-01k-TT-test.zip ...  01k-TT-test 


The revised testing system on its own. It differs by having 2 hacks 
internally needed for correct display of Backup listings at relative 
addresses. The template.ini uses relative addressing. 


Best wishes
TT

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Re: [tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[PMario]

Hi, 
Is there a download link?
-m

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[tw5] Re: Timelines Plugin

[Mohammad]

A new release is out there!


   - Minor issues fixed
   - Documentation improved


Project code and demo


   - GitHub demo page 
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Cheers
Mohammad 

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Re: [tw5] Re: Polly (2) -- Downloads as HUB

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Mark S. wrote:
>
> Actually, there should be some explanatory text and a disclaimer in a .md 
> file
> that is displayed when visiting github
>

Okay. Maybe when done that might be copied to polly.txt in the main dir?

TT 

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[tw5] Create a list of tiddler titles using filters and a hierarchy of tags

[AndrewMc]

Hi All

While I have been using TW for some years (mainly TWc) my usage of TW5 is 
rather basic and I am having difficulty with what I think is a filter 
problem.
I have some book text arranged in tiddlers, tagged with the chapter number, 
section number, and paragraph number of the text.

For example, all text from Chapter 7 is tagged with [C07]. 
The first Section of the chapter is a tiddler named [C07S01], containing 
just the section title, and is tagged with [C07] and [S01].
This section may contain several paragraphs.
The first Paragraph is a tiddler named [C07S01P01], and is tagged with 
[C07], [S01] and [P01].
The second paragraph is a tiddler named [C07S01P02], and is tagged with 
[C07], [S01] and [P02].

The second section in chapter 7 is [C07S02] (tagged with [C07] and [S02]).
and this has paragraphs [C07S02P01] and [C07S02P02] etc.

I am wanting to create a list of the tiddlers that make up this chapter.
I have created a [Chapter 7] tiddler containing the list-links macro:
<>

This is a good start, and gets me the equivalent of:
* [[C07S01]]
* [[C07S01P01]]
* [[C07S01P02]]
* [[C07S02]]
* [[C07S02P01]]
* [[C07S02P02]]

However, I am wondering if there is a way to get the following:
{{C07S01}}
* [[C07S01P01]]
* [[C07S01P02]]
{{C07S02}}
* [[C07S02P01]]
* [[C07S02P02]]

That is, I would like to know if there is a way that I can transclude all 
of the Section tiddlers of a chapter, in numerical order, each followed by 
a list of the paragraphs within each section. Is this a task for a macro?

For a start, I am struggling to create a filter to obtain just the section 
tiddlers. I want to get only those tiddlers tagged with a chapter tag [C07] 
and with a tag beginning with [S], and  without a tag beginning with [P]. 
Is it possible to do this? Or, should I just add some more tags, [Section] 
for each section tiddler, and [Paragraph] for each paragraph tiddler?

Any suggestions and ideas appreciated.

Cheers
Andrew Mc

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