[tw5] the forgotten part of Tiddlywiki

[Mohammad]

The CSS is a forgotten part of Tiddlywiki!

All widgets and many wikitext focus on actions, little efforts have been 
done on the CSS side!

Why?

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[tw5] Re: Classic Notes: a small tool to create semantic notebox

[Mohammad]

Thanks Tony!


On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 5:11:41 AM UTC+3:30, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mohammad,
>
> Love your work. I need a degree in what Mohammad has produced just to make 
> full use of it all.
>
> Do you really know this is compatible with Tiddlywiki5.1.5+ ?
>

Do you mean using image in left span here?
 

>
> Thanks
> Tony
>
> On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 22:25:04 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Classic Notes is a small tool lets create semantic note-boxes in 
>> Tiddlywiki.
>>
>> Demo: http://classic-notes.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>>
>> Classic Notes
>> Mohammad  29th October 
>> 2019 at 2:46pm
>>
>> Tiddlywiki5.1.5+
>>  
>> LicenseMIT
>>  
>> Release1.0.0
>>  
>> Statusstable
>>
>> This is a small tool for creating three colorful noteboxes contain a 
>> semantic icon on the left. This tool was part of Shiraz plugin 
>>  now published separately. The word 
>> classic is because this kind of noteboxe was popular years ago!
>> Syntax
>>
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>>
>> where they are used as
>>
>>- *success *for tip, information, success
>>- *warning *for hint, warning
>>- *danger *for important, danger
>>
>> Content and attributes
>> AttributesTypeDescription
>> src required the text to be shown as note
>> width optional the width of notebox. Default is 50% of its container. 
>> All CSS units can be used like 200pxExample
>>
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>>
>>
>> Install classic notes
>>
>> To have the classic notes tool working in your own wiki, simply drag and 
>> drop below tiddlers into your wiki.
>>
>>- $:/kookma/classic-notes/macro/note 
>>
>> 
>>- $:/kookma/classic-notes/stylesheet/note 
>>
>> 
>>
>> History
>>
>> Classic Notes History 
>> 
>> 29th Oct, 2019Rev 1.0.0Published separately on Tiddlyspot for Tiddlywiki30th 
>> Aug, 2018Rev 0.2The imgae data uri is used instead of external imagesThe 
>> note name has been changedAdopted for TW 5.1.17 and above11th Mar, 2010Rev 
>> 0.1First author: Olivier Cortes for DokuWikiAdapted for Tiddlywiki: 
>> Mohammad 
>>
>>  
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Classic Notes: a small tool to create semantic notebox

[TonyM]

Mohammad,

Love your work. I need a degree in what Mohammad has produced just to make 
full use of it all.

Do you really know this is compatible with Tiddlywiki5.1.5+ ?

Thanks
Tony

On Tuesday, 29 October 2019 22:25:04 UTC+11, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Classic Notes is a small tool lets create semantic note-boxes in 
> Tiddlywiki.
>
> Demo: http://classic-notes.tiddlyspot.com/
>
>
> Classic Notes
> Mohammad  29th October 
> 2019 at 2:46pm
>
> Tiddlywiki5.1.5+
>  
> LicenseMIT
>  
> Release1.0.0
>  
> Statusstable
>
> This is a small tool for creating three colorful noteboxes contain a 
> semantic icon on the left. This tool was part of Shiraz plugin 
>  now published separately. The word 
> classic is because this kind of noteboxe was popular years ago!
> Syntax
>
> <>
> <>
> <>
>
> where they are used as
>
>- *success *for tip, information, success
>- *warning *for hint, warning
>- *danger *for important, danger
>
> Content and attributes
> AttributesTypeDescription
> src required the text to be shown as note
> width optional the width of notebox. Default is 50% of its container. All 
> CSS units can be used like 200pxExample
>
> <>
> <>
> <>
>
>
> Install classic notes
>
> To have the classic notes tool working in your own wiki, simply drag and 
> drop below tiddlers into your wiki.
>
>- $:/kookma/classic-notes/macro/note 
>
> 
>- $:/kookma/classic-notes/stylesheet/note 
>
> 
>
> History
>
> Classic Notes History 
> 
> 29th Oct, 2019Rev 1.0.0Published separately on Tiddlyspot for Tiddlywiki30th 
> Aug, 2018Rev 0.2The imgae data uri is used instead of external imagesThe 
> note name has been changedAdopted for TW 5.1.17 and above11th Mar, 2010Rev 
> 0.1First author: Olivier Cortes for DokuWikiAdapted for Tiddlywiki: 
> Mohammad 
>
>  
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to generate a set of dynamical variables?

[TonyM]

Stephan,

I am a little confused about you question as well.

I do not really like the notation of the placeholders


This is not helpful, the notation should not be the problem, perhaps its 
you use of it, I think your issue is with the concept of templates

Have you tried {{||templatename}} in a tiddler?
or {{||mailtemplate}} in a new email message

This will display the current template in your currenttiddler using the 
values in the current tiddler not the template. ie {{!!fieldname)) is a 
fieldname in the current tiddler not the template.

The edit text widget https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#EditTextWidget has 
a placeholder parameter
To use a variable in this widget its a simple matter of 
placeholder=<>

By the way
You original post has the following  which is incorrect.
The due date is {{!!due_date]].

Regards
Tony

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:04:03 UTC+11, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> Background of my question: For a colleague who often needs to write 
> standard mails I've created a TiddlyWiki where one can create 2 tiddlers. 
> One with the standard mailtext using place holders. The placeholders are 
> also defined in the template. Example below. The other tiddler is simply 
> one piping the mailtemplate-tiddler through a tiddler which will generate 
> the form to fill in the placeholders.
>
> Example for the mailtemplate:
>
> [[subject:Request for offer {{!!company}}]]
> [[recipients:offerman@my.company]]
> [[company:Company Name]]
> [[due_date:Due date]]
> [[revenue:Annual revenue]]
> [[known_cb,not,already:Company known]]
>
> Dear Mr. Offerman
>
> The company {{!!company}} asked for an offer.
>
> Their annual revenue is {{!!revenue}}.
>
> The due date is {{!!due_date]].
>
> {{!!company}} is {{known_cb}} known to us.
>
> Best regards…
>
> The tiddler showing the form is then just something like this:
>
> {{
>Mailtemplate:Request for offer -- Generate Mail
> ||
>Create Mail
> }}
>
> and the resulting form will look something like this:
>
> ++-+
> | Recipients | offerman@my.company |
> ++-+
> | Subject| Request for offer {{!!company}} |
> ++-+
> | Company| [_] |
> ++-+
> | Due date   | [_] [cal]   |
> ++-+
> | Annual revenue | [_] |
> ++-+
> |Company known   | [_] already |
> ++-+
>
>
> This already works quite well, but I do not really like the notation of 
> the placeholders {{!!placeholder}}. This is due to the fact that the 
> generated form simply stores the values in fields in the mailtemplate.
>
> Since I had difficulties with the recipients and the subject, they are not 
> editable and are not in fields. I first wanted to make them editable but 
> this did not work as the defaults won't appear unless the tiddler, where 
> the fields are located, does not exist. Moreover the defaults are not 
> stored unless you explicitly go into the fields. As a result these 2 values 
> are stored in variables.
>
> So my next idea was: Wouldn't it be nice, placeholders could be written in 
> the form <>?
>
> Unfortunately I am not able to generate a set of variables dynamically. 
> You see: I do not know beforehand which placeholders will be used in a 
> mailtemplate. So I go through the mailtemplate with the ListWidget, finding 
> the placeholders from the top part, generating the input elements. Creating 
> variables by this is of course not possible.
>
> But maybe someone here has an idea how to do this?
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki upgrade

[TonyM]

Magenta,

We have a few community members that champion or require accessibility 
features themself. I would suggest publishing the results of your analysis 
and requesting help in a new thread. We can then all chip in to help get 
tiddlywiki to comply as much as possible. This has being previous 
discussions on this a number of times.

Reaching such goals is the value of community - you are not on your own.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 31 October 2019 02:24:13 UTC+11, Magenta Ward wrote:
>
> Hello, 
>
> Yes, we are testing out the ADA compliance. As of right now we are getting 
> a low score, we are hoping that this per-release version will give it a 
> little boost. 
>
> - Magenta Ann
>
>   
>
> On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 4:21:28 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>>
>> On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 8:43:05 PM UTC+1, Magenta Ward wrote:
>>>
>>> I am working on a project (see attached file) in TiddlyWiki version 
>>> 5.1.21. I would like to upgrade this Wiki to the pre-release version 
>>> 5.1.22. 
>>>
>>
>> Hi, 
>> Your TW seems to be something, that should go into production.
>>
>> The prerelease is intended to be used for experiments. So is there a 
>> special reason why you want to use an unfinished version?
>>
>> -mario
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: confused about UTC term used for the dates

[TonyM]

Sebastian

UTC does not refer to the format as you seem to believe, it refers to the 
dates time zone. UTC is the universal time held in Greenwich.

It's easy to be confused with this but the trick is to store the date time 
in UTC but when that time is displayed is converts to local time, using 
your browser locality settings and time zone. This allows your wiki to 
respond to local daylight savings, or when you work in another time zone, 
or you import tiddlers from another time zone.

See https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Date%20Fields

Once you grasp that, return with any more detailed questions.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 31 October 2019 04:24:54 UTC+11, Sebastian Ovide wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> TiddlyWiky stores dates in a format referred as UTC. 
> Example: 20191030170157357. But the UTC is very common to see everywhere 
> looks like 1994-11-05T13:15:30Z 
>
> any idea on the reason of choosing that format ?
>
> thanks
>

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[tw5] Re: Looking for ideas on how to use TiddlyWiki to track my reading habits.

[TonyM]

si,

What you seem to be asking for is a log process. I have a log system that 
allows me to log a note against any tiddler but it is written to a 
datatiddler with the key the datetime and contains the source tiddler 
title. Then a separate list can interrogate the datatiddler for all or just 
the current tiddler. You could add to this the different reading types.


   - Install the comments plugin and see if this is enough for you
   - Try my login tool here 
   


The question you have posed highlights a valuable lesson, the book tiddler 
represents the book and always should. Reading a book is something 
different and it occurs multiple times and in you example can be done 
multiple ways. But if you try and force a multiple (Reading sessions) into 
a singular (book) it gets messy.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, 31 October 2019 04:52:32 UTC+11, si wrote:
>
> Hi all.
>
> I've been messing around with making a wiki to track what books I read and 
> when I read them. I've run into a few sticking points and I'm curious to 
> hear how others may have approached something like this (assuming there are 
> people here who are as obsessive as me).
>
> So what I have done is created a button that creates a book based on Title 
> and Author data entered into an edit-text widget.
>
> Then for the book tiddler itself I have a template with check boxes to 
> mark the status of the book (to read, reading, read etc).
>
> What I'm a little stuck on is how to manage reading a book multiple times. 
> I would like to record the dates of each time I start and finish a book, 
> and also the format it was in (sometimes I might read a physical copy and 
> others listen to an audiobook).
>
> I wonder if anyone has any suggestions for how to approach recording this 
> data in TW?
>
> I am generally interested in how others have approached anything similar 
> so if you have any other ideas to share I would be most keen to hear/see 
> them!
>
> best, si
>

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[tw5] Re: TW too slow to use at only 8 MB

[TonyM]

S

Anything I could or should change about my TW file so that TW performance 
> is ahead of the data?


Without looking at your wiki specifically, this is a very open question, We 
would have to speculate, however you have given some clues, substantial use 
of tags. What I suggest is try to gain a little more understanding about 
the way tiddlywiki works and the performance cost of different approaches. 
Keep in mind you can copy you wiki and change/remove something to see if it 
has an impact on performance, then you can use another copy and see if you 
can improve the performance relative to that particular thing. If you 
identify a bottleneck ask in this forum and someone can help.


   - You are benefiting from performance improvements now with 5.1.21, for 
   more details read this https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Performance  take 
   particular not of the starting forms of the filters, you could locate all 
   your key filters and ensure they comply with this format so that automatic 
   indexing takes place.
   - Make sure if you use the performance instrumentation you turn it off, 
   I think 5.1.20 accidently left it on
   - If you over use the tag system (perhaps you are) you can create 
   complexity in there, try and learn how to move tags into other fields, how 
   depends on the nature of the tag such as does a tiddler either have it or 
   not, then perhaps it can be moved to a field of tagname with a value of yes 
   or no (default no), and more examples. Remember any tag can have a list 
   field generated containing a list of everything it tags (This is a little 
   overhead that may cost you size and performance).
   - Remember it is often possible to automate retagging, field creation 
   etc.. to multiple tiddlers at once (List inside a button with actions)
   - Usually if you can hide something, even temporarily such that it need 
   not be displayed the recurring refresh process can go a lot quicker.
   
Regards
Tony

On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 3:54:08 AM UTC+11, S wrote:
>
> Thank you for your response! Closing the sidebar did not make a 
> difference, RAM is aplenty to begin with but I always turn off and turn 
> computer on again with nothing else running if I want the best performance 
> in general. Autosave is always turned off. Browsers, have primarily used 
> Chrome, Safari, Firefox. Usually just the browser's ability to download 
> files, though TiddlyDesktop is far more convenient with saves. Saving 
> method nor where I work with the file affects the performance--it's bad 
> everywhere. Wiki is private or otherwise I would consider sharing.
>
> I just went ahead with the upgrade to 5.1.21 and WOW that is a lot better! 
> I just finished reading all of the past release notes to see what's new. 
> I'll have to do some more testing to make sure it's for real, haha. But it 
> is definitely much faster than before.
>
> So clearly the newest version of TW has some significant performance 
> improvements (saw tag improvements mentioned in multiple releases), and I 
> might be okay for now, but will I run into this slowdown again? Anything I 
> could or should change about my TW file so that TW performance is ahead of 
> the data?
>
> Thanks, Tony!
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 8:14:31 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>>
>> S
>>
>> There is much that can be done to help. I assume its a single file wiki 
>> and it has evolved over time?
>>
>> tiddlywiki is open to massive numbers of tiddlees,  relationships and is 
>> flexible out of the box. This dose however allow methods that are less than 
>> optimal once you have large numbers. This is good in some ways because in 
>> most use cases its very flexible and you do not need to consider 
>> optimisation.
>>
>> my first recommendations are;
>> hide the sidebar does performance improve?
>> Upgrade even just as a test to the latest release it has optimisations
>> Investigate if your browser is running out of its own space or your pc 
>> ram.
>> Turn off autosave to see if saving is slowing you down
>>
>> Is your wiki very private? Can it be shared? even just to a few people?
>>
>> If you can't share list size, browser, saving method any thing else that 
>> may help us diagnose it.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tony
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Philosophy & TW -- Title v. Content

[TonyM]

TT,

I am a bit late to this thread and have not read it all, May I respectfully 
suggest the value of the title is something you have chosen to set in your 
example, it is you who has diminished its value by giving it a numeric 
title. If you really wanted to number them you could do so in a separate 
field. Also in your example if the content of the text is "When Willowy 
goes for donuts the cicadas sing. In harmony" it could actually be your 
title.

Not withstanding what I have said, if the title is less important to you, 
or you want to automate this aspect so you do not need to "think about it" 
that is OK as well, you just need to recognise you are forgoing something 
when you do so. In this case you are using the title for its other primary 
function, it is operating as the "Primary key" to a piece of data. This 
still maps very well to TiddlyWikis philosophy, of the tiddler being the 
primary unit of information.

As I have stated before I think one of Tiddlywiki's key features is the 
"Primary Key" to data by being the title is "at eye level", "Directly in 
your face", "front and center" and all objects have this key. In other 
solutions the primary key is a document name, or a hidden numeric index. 
Titles allow anything to be an object even if it is one of many, and yes 
you can automate it.

Zooming out from titles you can use naming standards or tags and fields to 
group them, Zooming in you can use "subTiddlers", "Compound Tiddlers" and 
Data Tiddlers for smaller than a single tiddler. 

I am collecting techniques to enhance the use of "Compound tiddlers" which 
will help provision the automated tiddler, but in this case the subtiddlers 
will in effect have two keys, the top level tiddler and its childrens names.

Thanks for raising this important Question.

Tony

On Sunday, September 1, 2019 at 8:30:38 PM UTC+10, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> This is one of those offtopic/ontopic things.
>
> The filtering mechanism in TW is very orientated to "titles first".
>
> MY problem is that I often have *TEXT that is more meaningful than its 
> title*.
> The title is merely a placeholder (till later).
>
> For instance ...
>
> Title: "Working Title #247"
>> Text: "When Willowy goes for donuts the cicadas sing.
>> In harmony."
>
>
> Title: "Working Title #595"
>> Text: "Willowy is an instrument of
>> Thomos The Third."
>
>
> 1 - How do I SEE all lines containing "Willowy"?
>
> 2 - How do I correct "Willowy" to "Willowby"?
>
> You see here the *irrelevance* of "Title", yes?
>
> Is TW a *text-base* or a *title-base?*
>
> TT
>

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[tw5] Re: TW too slow to use at only 8 MB

[Michael Wiktowy]

I have noticed, even in 5.1.21, that with modestly sized tiddlers 
containing html content, if you set the mime-type to be text/html, it 
renders quickly (but in a slider window with some limitations). But if you 
set it to text/vnd.tiddlywiki or leave the mime-type blank in order to 
blend in some Wikitext, things will get *very* slow on loading that 
particular tiddler ... at least the first time you load it and/or edit it.

I am not sure if that is what makes up the content of your wiki but I have 
been forced to import html pages as plain text (by cutting and pasting the 
text into an editing window rather than using the drag and drop or cut and 
paste into the main window) route and re-applying analogous wikitext 
formatting to make it resemble the original. 

/Mike

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 9:43:20 AM UTC-3, S wrote:
>
> TW has gradually become slower and more unusable the more I add to it. It 
> is text only, no added plugins or other extras, entirely structured and 
> organized through tags, with three tiddlers of tags given their own Table 
> of Contents type arrangement in the main row of TW tabs.
>
> Tags are used in tree format to organize tiddlers by time (year tiddlers 
> and month-years within them), but I also use tags in the more traditional 
> sense for tagging tiddlers by topics. Aside from the tiddlers used to form 
> this structure, meaning all of my tiddlers that have actual content in them 
> and not just a line of code, those tend to have on average 2-10 tags each. 
> Some tags for subject matter rarely get used, while a few have been used 
> 100+ times.
>
> Many tiddlers have a lot of text but hopefully that's not the problem.
>
> I do not keep the expanding lists of tags in tree structure all expanded 
> at the same time, only what I need to reference.
>
> I was running an older version of TW5 when this issue began, and then 
> updated to 5.1.13 which was the new version at the time. This made no 
> difference.
>
> Whole TW file is 8 MB with 800 tiddlers (that I've made), and 140 tags.
>
> Opening, saving, and editing tiddlers and the TW are all slow. The worst 
> is typing text in a tiddler as oftentimes the characters appear very 
> delayed after I type them. All of the lag is a problem, but this is most 
> problematic of all. These performance issues persist through various high 
> spec computers, different OSes, multiple web browsers, TiddlyDesktop, 
> running off disk vs portable media, as the only thing running vs running 
> other programs or browser tabs, etc.
>
> TW is just miserable to use right now which is a shame considering how 
> much I love it when it works and how much time I put into it.
>
> I did read through an earlier thread which maybe identifies my problem, 
> possibly tags being used too many times.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/number$20of$20tiddlers%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/q2DSlN_TAwAJ
>
> This plugin was mentioned towards the end of that thread that I think 
> utilizes fields instead of tags.
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/o3SH1PrQAwAJ
>
> Do you suspect my issue is tags rather than some other issue? If so, is 
> there an easy way to convert some or all of my tags to fields or some other 
> better-performing format while also maintaining the structure of tiddlers 
> created by tags? I haven't done coding in a long time and so most of the 
> coding in TW especially goes over my head. Tags make sense to me and I know 
> how to use them, whereas I have no idea how I'd turn fields into the same 
> structure I have if that's even possible and it looks like maybe there are 
> a lot of rules with fields? I don't know if there's a solution, or if there 
> is, if it's something I understand enough to do.
>
> Short of switching to a different platform, the only non-complex but 
> tedious and inefficient solution that might work is to make all of those 
> table of contents/expandable/lists of tiddlers in tiddlers (ruled by tags) 
> into ordinary static tiddlers without code, that I update by hand with 
> links to other tiddlers. So no longer would the tags let these lists 
> automatically generate, but I would by hand add links to tiddlers in all of 
> these places. For obvious reasons, I would rather not do this.
>
> Thanks!
>

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[tw5] Re: CSS question regarding the html tag

[Magnus]

Yes you are correct, I was lazy and just copied from my stylesheet in view 
mode. In edit mode it is 

.tc-tiddler-body h1:nth-child(1) {background: url("<>") no-repeat top left;}

Den onsdag 30 oktober 2019 kl. 23:37:14 UTC+1 skrev Sycom:
>
> Hello Hubert, 
>
> I think Magnus is using an urlencoded version of the svg. You can have it 
> with <$view tiddler="your_tiddler” format="urlencoded" />. See viewWidget 
> documentation for a double check. 
>
> Cheers 
>
> Sylvain 
> @sycom

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[tw5] Changeable uri for embedded pdf-files

[Lee Beek]

Hello guys,

I've been trying to figure out how to create changeable uri's for embedded 
pdf-files.

The reason why I want this, is because I want to use my Tiddly on both my 
pc and laptop, while embedding pdf's saved in my Drive folder.


This is where I'm currently:

The path 

File macro 

PDF test 



My latest failed attempt, where I try to use a button to switch between the 
PC path and laptop path:

Device selection 

Altered path 

Result 


As you can see, rather than using the path, it's printed instead, as I'm 
guessing it doesn't support any markup in the Tiddly.

Do you have any ideas for me to continue trying to complete this?

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[tw5] Re: CSS question regarding the html tag

[Sycom]

Hello Hubert,

I think Magnus is using an urlencoded version of the svg. You can have it with 
<$view tiddler="your_tiddler” format="urlencoded" />. See viewWidget 
documentation for a double check.

Cheers

Sylvain
@sycom

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[tw5] Re: Variable equals itself plus something else

[Diego Mesa]

Hey Ste,

You're using 0.1.1 of Evans plugin. The latest available on his website is 
0.2.3:

https://evanbalster.com/tiddlywiki/formulas.html



On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 4:13:42 PM UTC-5, Ste Wilson wrote:
>
> Ps.. If anyone knows how or why the round command is giving answers like 
> 10.2606 instead of 10.26 that would be helpful! 

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[tw5] Re: Variable equals itself plus something else

[Ste Wilson]

Ps.. If anyone knows how or why the round command is giving answers like 
10.2606 instead of 10.26 that would be helpful! 

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[tw5] Re: Variable equals itself plus something else

[Ste Wilson]

Tony, you were correct. Tiddlywiki is the way and Evans formula plug in is a 
thing of beauty. 

https://tmcengineering.updog.co/Simple%20Frame%20Calc.html

I think it gets the correct answer :D

Cheers

Ste

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[tw5] Re: Experiment: GG layout from TW. Request for feedback. TEST #1

[Jed Carty]

The size isn't really the problem, either way I can't really read it.

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[tw5] Re: How do I access an embedded binary file?

[Greg Davis]

I don't use node.js so I maybe misunderstanding what you are trying to do. 
If I understand, you are dragging a ppt file into TiddlyWiki so it becomes 
embedded as a tiddler. Then you want to download that embedded ppt file.

That sounds like the problem of downloading an embedded zip file. Such 
files are stored in the TiddlyWiki in a base encoded format. Jeremy gave an 
example of downloading such a file:

Embed a ZIP for download?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/TiddlyWiki/XoyXlWO8SpA/K_IcD4qgvhwJhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/TiddlyWiki/XoyXlWO8SpA/K_IcD4qgvhwJhttps://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/TiddlyWiki/XoyXlWO8SpA/K_IcD4qgvhwJ


Not sure if this would work for ppt files or if a modification of boot.js 
similar to the one Jeremy mentioned for zip files would be needed for ppt 
files. Such a mod should be tested before using on your good TiddlyWiki.

To download zip files I made a macro (attached) based on what Jeremy 
suggested. I have not tested it intensively but seemed to work for zip, 
pdf, png, and gif files.

Hope that is helpful,
Greg


On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 3:13:34 AM UTC-5, Michael Borgwardt wrote:
>
> I'm running TW on node.js, so storing binary files directly in Tiddlers is 
> unproblematic - they just get uploaded and stored as separate files.
>
>
> However, if I embed e.g. a Powerpoint file, how can I actually access it? 
> I'm looking for a way to include a download link to the file in the text of 
> another Tiddler. But I can't find out how to do that. If I use a normal 
> link to the file's Tiddler, that just opens.
>
> Now according to 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#How%20to%20embed%20PDF%20and%20other%20documents 
> at least "When you edit the tiddler a link is presented. You can right 
> click on the link in order to download the file. " - but I cannot find that 
> link either. There is just a yellow box saying "This tiddler contains 
> binary data".
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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[Jon]

That's the least I can do!
Thanks
Jon

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 18:18:32 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Thanks for your feedback Jon!
> I have updated the repo on Github
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 9:08:11 PM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> Yes, works as expected in 1:4:0
>>
>> Many thanks
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:39:04 UTC, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> Will do when I get home from work later.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:34:25 UTC, Mohammad wrote:

 Jon,
  Seems there is a bug!
 Please check the 1.4.0 and let me know how it works

 https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander

 --Mohammad

 On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 11:55:36 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> 1:3:0
>
> If I remove the exclamation mark, it indicates  *A new filter search 
> has been detected *but nothing changes after clicking the search 
> button.
>
> Regards
> Jon
>
> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 07:55:13 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Jon,
>> Would you please tell me the version of Commander you are using?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:14:16 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>>
>>> All my tags are lower case but the filter works fine in Advanced 
>>> Search - for instance, if I remove the ! the order reverses as expected.
>>>
>>> However, if I copy the filter to the Commander, the sort order 
>>> doesn't work at all.
>>>
>>> That's odd then, if it works in yours.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 06:11:09 UTC, Mohammad wrote:

 Hi Jon
 The journal in TW normally tagged with Journal with capital J.
 Have you tried your filter in $:/AdvancedSearch?
 Does it return the correct results?


 For me it works!
 e.g [tag[Journal]!sort[created]]

 both in Commander and TW advanced search.

 --Mohammad



 On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 1:16:46 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to use Tiddler Commander to export the last month of 
> journal entries which I would have done by adding a temporary tag.
>
> However, I noticed that the filter doesn't seem to work completely.
>
> For instance <$list filter="[tag[journal]!sort[created]]"> will 
> bring up the journal tiddlers but it won't apply the sort.
>
> Good if this could be included
>
> Regards
> Jon
>
> p.s. apologies for the typo - can't seem to edit the title.
>


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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[Mohammad]

Thanks for your feedback Jon!
I have updated the repo on Github

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 9:08:11 PM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> Yes, works as expected in 1:4:0
>
> Many thanks
> Jon
>
> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:39:04 UTC, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Will do when I get home from work later.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:34:25 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Jon,
>>>  Seems there is a bug!
>>> Please check the 1.4.0 and let me know how it works
>>>
>>> https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 11:55:36 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:

 Hi Mohammad,

 1:3:0

 If I remove the exclamation mark, it indicates  *A new filter search 
 has been detected *but nothing changes after clicking the search 
 button.

 Regards
 Jon

 On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 07:55:13 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Jon,
> Would you please tell me the version of Commander you are using?
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:14:16 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> All my tags are lower case but the filter works fine in Advanced 
>> Search - for instance, if I remove the ! the order reverses as expected.
>>
>> However, if I copy the filter to the Commander, the sort order 
>> doesn't work at all.
>>
>> That's odd then, if it works in yours.
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 06:11:09 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jon
>>> The journal in TW normally tagged with Journal with capital J.
>>> Have you tried your filter in $:/AdvancedSearch?
>>> Does it return the correct results?
>>>
>>>
>>> For me it works!
>>> e.g [tag[Journal]!sort[created]]
>>>
>>> both in Commander and TW advanced search.
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 1:16:46 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to use Tiddler Commander to export the last month of 
 journal entries which I would have done by adding a temporary tag.

 However, I noticed that the filter doesn't seem to work completely.

 For instance <$list filter="[tag[journal]!sort[created]]"> will 
 bring up the journal tiddlers but it won't apply the sort.

 Good if this could be included

 Regards
 Jon

 p.s. apologies for the typo - can't seem to edit the title.

>>>

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[tw5] Looking for ideas on how to use TiddlyWiki to track my reading habits.

[si]

Hi all.

I've been messing around with making a wiki to track what books I read and 
when I read them. I've run into a few sticking points and I'm curious to 
hear how others may have approached something like this (assuming there are 
people here who are as obsessive as me).

So what I have done is created a button that creates a book based on Title 
and Author data entered into an edit-text widget.

Then for the book tiddler itself I have a template with check boxes to mark 
the status of the book (to read, reading, read etc).

What I'm a little stuck on is how to manage reading a book multiple times. 
I would like to record the dates of each time I start and finish a book, 
and also the format it was in (sometimes I might read a physical copy and 
others listen to an audiobook).

I wonder if anyone has any suggestions for how to approach recording this 
data in TW?

I am generally interested in how others have approached anything similar so 
if you have any other ideas to share I would be most keen to hear/see them!

best, si

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[tw5] Re: confused about UTC term used for the dates

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

That particular format doesn't include milliseconds. It is a 1000 times 
less precise than the TW format.
The time stamp may be important if you are generating more than 1 tiddler a 
second.

That's my theory, anyways ;-)

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:24:54 AM UTC-7, Sebastian Ovide wrote:
>
> Hello all
>
> TiddlyWiky stores dates in a format referred as UTC. 
> Example: 20191030170157357. But the UTC is very common to see everywhere 
> looks like 1994-11-05T13:15:30Z 
>
> any idea on the reason of choosing that format ?
>
> thanks
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[Jon]

Hi Mohammad,

Yes, works as expected in 1:4:0

Many thanks
Jon

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:39:04 UTC, Jon wrote:
>
> Will do when I get home from work later.
>
> Thanks
> Jon
>
> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:34:25 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Jon,
>>  Seems there is a bug!
>> Please check the 1.4.0 and let me know how it works
>>
>> https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 11:55:36 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>>
>>> 1:3:0
>>>
>>> If I remove the exclamation mark, it indicates  *A new filter search 
>>> has been detected *but nothing changes after clicking the search button.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 07:55:13 UTC, Mohammad wrote:

 Jon,
 Would you please tell me the version of Commander you are using?

 --Mohammad

 On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:14:16 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> All my tags are lower case but the filter works fine in Advanced 
> Search - for instance, if I remove the ! the order reverses as expected.
>
> However, if I copy the filter to the Commander, the sort order doesn't 
> work at all.
>
> That's odd then, if it works in yours.
>
> Regards
> Jon
>
> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 06:11:09 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jon
>> The journal in TW normally tagged with Journal with capital J.
>> Have you tried your filter in $:/AdvancedSearch?
>> Does it return the correct results?
>>
>>
>> For me it works!
>> e.g [tag[Journal]!sort[created]]
>>
>> both in Commander and TW advanced search.
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 1:16:46 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I wanted to use Tiddler Commander to export the last month of 
>>> journal entries which I would have done by adding a temporary tag.
>>>
>>> However, I noticed that the filter doesn't seem to work completely.
>>>
>>> For instance <$list filter="[tag[journal]!sort[created]]"> will 
>>> bring up the journal tiddlers but it won't apply the sort.
>>>
>>> Good if this could be included
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> p.s. apologies for the typo - can't seem to edit the title.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Experiment: GG layout from TW. Request for feedback. TEST #1

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Birthe

EEK! It is not like the last on reading (that was just a mini image to give 
an impression of layout! It is unreadable to anyone!). 

The REAL THING is here: 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/y_1HrmxGO-8/xCxBWbgQAgAJ


Best wishes
Josiah

Birthe C wrote:
>
> My eyes are old, and admittedly I could do with new glasses, but seriously 
> if the last example is what it will look like, I am simply not able to read 
> it.
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Experiment: GG layout from TW. Request for feedback. TEST #1

[Birthe C]

My eyes are old, and admittedly I could do with new glasses, but seriously 
if the last example is what it will look like, I am simply not able to read 
it.


Birthe

onsdag den 30. oktober 2019 kl. 12.55.24 UTC+1 skrev @TiddlyTweeter:
>
> FYI, the layout of my last post is supposed to look like this ...
>
> [image: Annotation 2019-10-30 125231.jpg]
>
>
> TT
>
> ​
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: TW too slow to use at only 8 MB

[Arlen Beiler]

Definitely upgrade -- alot of improvements have been made recently.

Also, the tag filter starts having performance problems when you start
getting into tens of thousands of tiddlers (like a dictionary). It's a
known bug and we're working on a solution.

You can turn on performance instrumentation in the control panel and open
developer tools to see the results. I think it tells you to run a certain
command to see the results.

On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 9:54 AM 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <
tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Reading your post, it sounds like you're still on 5.1.13. There were
> improvements in 5.1.20. I would suggest making a copy
> of your file and upgrading it to 5.1.21.
>
> It's really hard to diagnose at a distance. But you shouldn't be having
> serious problems with only 800 tiddlers and 8megs on *all* platforms.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:43:20 AM UTC-7, S wrote:
>>
>> TW has gradually become slower and more unusable the more I add to it. It
>> is text only, no added plugins or other extras, entirely structured and
>> organized through tags, with three tiddlers of tags given their own Table
>> of Contents type arrangement in the main row of TW tabs.
>>
>> Tags are used in tree format to organize tiddlers by time (year tiddlers
>> and month-years within them), but I also use tags in the more traditional
>> sense for tagging tiddlers by topics. Aside from the tiddlers used to form
>> this structure, meaning all of my tiddlers that have actual content in them
>> and not just a line of code, those tend to have on average 2-10 tags each.
>> Some tags for subject matter rarely get used, while a few have been used
>> 100+ times.
>>
>> Many tiddlers have a lot of text but hopefully that's not the problem.
>>
>> I do not keep the expanding lists of tags in tree structure all expanded
>> at the same time, only what I need to reference.
>>
>> I was running an older version of TW5 when this issue began, and then
>> updated to 5.1.13 which was the new version at the time. This made no
>> difference.
>>
>> Whole TW file is 8 MB with 800 tiddlers (that I've made), and 140 tags.
>>
>> Opening, saving, and editing tiddlers and the TW are all slow. The worst
>> is typing text in a tiddler as oftentimes the characters appear very
>> delayed after I type them. All of the lag is a problem, but this is most
>> problematic of all. These performance issues persist through various high
>> spec computers, different OSes, multiple web browsers, TiddlyDesktop,
>> running off disk vs portable media, as the only thing running vs running
>> other programs or browser tabs, etc.
>>
>> TW is just miserable to use right now which is a shame considering how
>> much I love it when it works and how much time I put into it.
>>
>> I did read through an earlier thread which maybe identifies my problem,
>> possibly tags being used too many times.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/number$20of$20tiddlers%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/q2DSlN_TAwAJ
>>
>> This plugin was mentioned towards the end of that thread that I think
>> utilizes fields instead of tags.
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/o3SH1PrQAwAJ
>>
>> Do you suspect my issue is tags rather than some other issue? If so, is
>> there an easy way to convert some or all of my tags to fields or some other
>> better-performing format while also maintaining the structure of tiddlers
>> created by tags? I haven't done coding in a long time and so most of the
>> coding in TW especially goes over my head. Tags make sense to me and I know
>> how to use them, whereas I have no idea how I'd turn fields into the same
>> structure I have if that's even possible and it looks like maybe there are
>> a lot of rules with fields? I don't know if there's a solution, or if there
>> is, if it's something I understand enough to do.
>>
>> Short of switching to a different platform, the only non-complex but
>> tedious and inefficient solution that might work is to make all of those
>> table of contents/expandable/lists of tiddlers in tiddlers (ruled by tags)
>> into ordinary static tiddlers without code, that I update by hand with
>> links to other tiddlers. So no longer would the tags let these lists
>> automatically generate, but I would by hand add links to tiddlers in all of
>> these places. For obvious reasons, I would rather not do this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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[tw5] confused about UTC term used for the dates

[Sebastian Ovide]

Hello all

TiddlyWiky stores dates in a format referred as UTC. 
Example: 20191030170157357. But the UTC is very common to see everywhere 
looks like 1994-11-05T13:15:30Z 

any idea on the reason of choosing that format ?

thanks

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[tw5] Re: CSS question regarding the html tag

[Hubert]

Hi Magnus,

Thank you. Can you share a bit more about what "%3Csvg%20xm.." refers to?

Many thanks,
Hubert

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[tw5] Re: TW too slow to use at only 8 MB

[S]

I just upgraded to 5.1.21 and it is much better! Have to experiment with 
the new version more to be sure it will be usable for my purposes, so in 
the meantime, I might be okay. I still have concerns of a slowdown like 
this in the future though, especially if I add larger tiddlers or greater 
numbers of them than usual. Do you have ideas for how I could prevent a 
slowdown in the future, such as existing aspects of my TW and its structure 
I could change, or just in the future?

Thank you Mark!

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 8:54:48 AM UTC-5, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Reading your post, it sounds like you're still on 5.1.13. There were 
> improvements in 5.1.20. I would suggest making a copy
> of your file and upgrading it to 5.1.21.
>
> It's really hard to diagnose at a distance. But you shouldn't be having 
> serious problems with only 800 tiddlers and 8megs on *all* platforms.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:43:20 AM UTC-7, S wrote:
>>
>> TW has gradually become slower and more unusable the more I add to it. It 
>> is text only, no added plugins or other extras, entirely structured and 
>> organized through tags, with three tiddlers of tags given their own Table 
>> of Contents type arrangement in the main row of TW tabs.
>>
>> Tags are used in tree format to organize tiddlers by time (year tiddlers 
>> and month-years within them), but I also use tags in the more traditional 
>> sense for tagging tiddlers by topics. Aside from the tiddlers used to form 
>> this structure, meaning all of my tiddlers that have actual content in them 
>> and not just a line of code, those tend to have on average 2-10 tags each. 
>> Some tags for subject matter rarely get used, while a few have been used 
>> 100+ times.
>>
>> Many tiddlers have a lot of text but hopefully that's not the problem.
>>
>> I do not keep the expanding lists of tags in tree structure all expanded 
>> at the same time, only what I need to reference.
>>
>> I was running an older version of TW5 when this issue began, and then 
>> updated to 5.1.13 which was the new version at the time. This made no 
>> difference.
>>
>> Whole TW file is 8 MB with 800 tiddlers (that I've made), and 140 tags.
>>
>> Opening, saving, and editing tiddlers and the TW are all slow. The worst 
>> is typing text in a tiddler as oftentimes the characters appear very 
>> delayed after I type them. All of the lag is a problem, but this is most 
>> problematic of all. These performance issues persist through various high 
>> spec computers, different OSes, multiple web browsers, TiddlyDesktop, 
>> running off disk vs portable media, as the only thing running vs running 
>> other programs or browser tabs, etc.
>>
>> TW is just miserable to use right now which is a shame considering how 
>> much I love it when it works and how much time I put into it.
>>
>> I did read through an earlier thread which maybe identifies my problem, 
>> possibly tags being used too many times.
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/number$20of$20tiddlers%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/q2DSlN_TAwAJ
>>
>> This plugin was mentioned towards the end of that thread that I think 
>> utilizes fields instead of tags.
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/o3SH1PrQAwAJ
>>
>> Do you suspect my issue is tags rather than some other issue? If so, is 
>> there an easy way to convert some or all of my tags to fields or some other 
>> better-performing format while also maintaining the structure of tiddlers 
>> created by tags? I haven't done coding in a long time and so most of the 
>> coding in TW especially goes over my head. Tags make sense to me and I know 
>> how to use them, whereas I have no idea how I'd turn fields into the same 
>> structure I have if that's even possible and it looks like maybe there are 
>> a lot of rules with fields? I don't know if there's a solution, or if there 
>> is, if it's something I understand enough to do.
>>
>> Short of switching to a different platform, the only non-complex but 
>> tedious and inefficient solution that might work is to make all of those 
>> table of contents/expandable/lists of tiddlers in tiddlers (ruled by tags) 
>> into ordinary static tiddlers without code, that I update by hand with 
>> links to other tiddlers. So no longer would the tags let these lists 
>> automatically generate, but I would by hand add links to tiddlers in all of 
>> these places. For obvious reasons, I would rather not do this.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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[tw5] $edit-text type="date" in UTC format ?

[Sebastian Ovide]

Hello 

<$edit-text tiddler="mytiddler" field="mydate" type="date"/>

would save the date in mydate as "2019-11-30" instead of TiddlyWiki UTC "
20191030165139755"   

any wauy to save it in the same TW UTC format ?

thanks
   

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[tw5] Re: TW too slow to use at only 8 MB

[S]

Thank you for your response! Closing the sidebar did not make a difference, 
RAM is aplenty to begin with but I always turn off and turn computer on 
again with nothing else running if I want the best performance in general. 
Autosave is always turned off. Browsers, have primarily used Chrome, 
Safari, Firefox. Usually just the browser's ability to download files, 
though TiddlyDesktop is far more convenient with saves. Saving method nor 
where I work with the file affects the performance--it's bad everywhere. 
Wiki is private or otherwise I would consider sharing.

I just went ahead with the upgrade to 5.1.21 and WOW that is a lot better! 
I just finished reading all of the past release notes to see what's new. 
I'll have to do some more testing to make sure it's for real, haha. But it 
is definitely much faster than before.

So clearly the newest version of TW has some significant performance 
improvements (saw tag improvements mentioned in multiple releases), and I 
might be okay for now, but will I run into this slowdown again? Anything I 
could or should change about my TW file so that TW performance is ahead of 
the data?

Thanks, Tony!

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 8:14:31 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote:
>
> S
>
> There is much that can be done to help. I assume its a single file wiki 
> and it has evolved over time?
>
> tiddlywiki is open to massive numbers of tiddlees,  relationships and is 
> flexible out of the box. This dose however allow methods that are less than 
> optimal once you have large numbers. This is good in some ways because in 
> most use cases its very flexible and you do not need to consider 
> optimisation.
>
> my first recommendations are;
> hide the sidebar does performance improve?
> Upgrade even just as a test to the latest release it has optimisations
> Investigate if your browser is running out of its own space or your pc ram.
> Turn off autosave to see if saving is slowing you down
>
> Is your wiki very private? Can it be shared? even just to a few people?
>
> If you can't share list size, browser, saving method any thing else that 
> may help us diagnose it.
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWiki upgrade

[Magenta Ward]

Hello, 

Yes, we are testing out the ADA compliance. As of right now we are getting 
a low score, we are hoping that this per-release version will give it a 
little boost. 

- Magenta Ann

  

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 4:21:28 AM UTC-4, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, October 28, 2019 at 8:43:05 PM UTC+1, Magenta Ward wrote:
>>
>> I am working on a project (see attached file) in TiddlyWiki version 
>> 5.1.21. I would like to upgrade this Wiki to the pre-release version 
>> 5.1.22. 
>>
>
> Hi, 
> Your TW seems to be something, that should go into production.
>
> The prerelease is intended to be used for experiments. So is there a 
> special reason why you want to use an unfinished version?
>
> -mario
>

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Re: [tw5] Is there a way to generate a set of dynamical variables?

[Xavier Cazin]

Hi Stefan,

I'm almost certain that filters hold the answer to your questions.
Especially since they include operators like subfilter[], then[] and else[]
—and also *~run* constructs. Here is an example of what you can write with
recent TW5 releases:

\define default_subject() My default subject
\define subject-filter() [[My form]get[subject]else]

Subject : <$text text={{{ [subfilter] }}}/>

Does it sound usable for your use case?

Cheers,
-- Xavier Cazin


On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 10:04 AM Stephan Hradek 
wrote:

> Background of my question: For a colleague who often needs to write
> standard mails I've created a TiddlyWiki where one can create 2 tiddlers.
> One with the standard mailtext using place holders. The placeholders are
> also defined in the template. Example below. The other tiddler is simply
> one piping the mailtemplate-tiddler through a tiddler which will generate
> the form to fill in the placeholders.
>
> Example for the mailtemplate:
>
> [[subject:Request for offer {{!!company}}]]
> [[recipients:offerman@my.company]]
> [[company:Company Name]]
> [[due_date:Due date]]
> [[revenue:Annual revenue]]
> [[known_cb,not,already:Company known]]
>
> Dear Mr. Offerman
>
> The company {{!!company}} asked for an offer.
>
> Their annual revenue is {{!!revenue}}.
>
> The due date is {{!!due_date]].
>
> {{!!company}} is {{known_cb}} known to us.
>
> Best regards…
>
> The tiddler showing the form is then just something like this:
>
> {{
>Mailtemplate:Request for offer -- Generate Mail
> ||
>Create Mail
> }}
>
> and the resulting form will look something like this:
>
> ++-+
> | Recipients | offerman@my.company |
> ++-+
> | Subject| Request for offer {{!!company}} |
> ++-+
> | Company| [_] |
> ++-+
> | Due date   | [_] [cal]   |
> ++-+
> | Annual revenue | [_] |
> ++-+
> |Company known   | [_] already |
> ++-+
>
>
> This already works quite well, but I do not really like the notation of
> the placeholders {{!!placeholder}}. This is due to the fact that the
> generated form simply stores the values in fields in the mailtemplate.
>
> Since I had difficulties with the recipients and the subject, they are not
> editable and are not in fields. I first wanted to make them editable but
> this did not work as the defaults won't appear unless the tiddler, where
> the fields are located, does not exist. Moreover the defaults are not
> stored unless you explicitly go into the fields. As a result these 2 values
> are stored in variables.
>
> So my next idea was: Wouldn't it be nice, placeholders could be written in
> the form <>?
>
> Unfortunately I am not able to generate a set of variables dynamically.
> You see: I do not know beforehand which placeholders will be used in a
> mailtemplate. So I go through the mailtemplate with the ListWidget, finding
> the placeholders from the top part, generating the input elements. Creating
> variables by this is of course not possible.
>
> But maybe someone here has an idea how to do this?
>
>
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to generate a set of dynamical variables?

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

I've read your post several times now, but I'm still unsure what you want.

Perhaps you could show the list code you are using, and then highlight the 
output, indicating
what you would desire the output to be.

Good luck!

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 2:04:03 AM UTC-7, Stephan Hradek wrote:
>
> Background of my question: For a colleague who often needs to write 
> standard mails I've created a TiddlyWiki where one can create 2 tiddlers. 
> One with the standard mailtext using place holders. The placeholders are 
> also defined in the template. Example below. The other tiddler is simply 
> one piping the mailtemplate-tiddler through a tiddler which will generate 
> the form to fill in the placeholders.
>
> Example for the mailtemplate:
>
> [[subject:Request for offer {{!!company}}]]
> [[recipients:offerman@my.company]]
> [[company:Company Name]]
> [[due_date:Due date]]
> [[revenue:Annual revenue]]
> [[known_cb,not,already:Company known]]
>
> Dear Mr. Offerman
>
> The company {{!!company}} asked for an offer.
>
> Their annual revenue is {{!!revenue}}.
>
> The due date is {{!!due_date]].
>
> {{!!company}} is {{known_cb}} known to us.
>
> Best regards…
>
> The tiddler showing the form is then just something like this:
>
> {{
>Mailtemplate:Request for offer -- Generate Mail
> ||
>Create Mail
> }}
>
> and the resulting form will look something like this:
>
> ++-+
> | Recipients | offerman@my.company |
> ++-+
> | Subject| Request for offer {{!!company}} |
> ++-+
> | Company| [_] |
> ++-+
> | Due date   | [_] [cal]   |
> ++-+
> | Annual revenue | [_] |
> ++-+
> |Company known   | [_] already |
> ++-+
>
>
> This already works quite well, but I do not really like the notation of 
> the placeholders {{!!placeholder}}. This is due to the fact that the 
> generated form simply stores the values in fields in the mailtemplate.
>
> Since I had difficulties with the recipients and the subject, they are not 
> editable and are not in fields. I first wanted to make them editable but 
> this did not work as the defaults won't appear unless the tiddler, where 
> the fields are located, does not exist. Moreover the defaults are not 
> stored unless you explicitly go into the fields. As a result these 2 values 
> are stored in variables.
>
> So my next idea was: Wouldn't it be nice, placeholders could be written in 
> the form <>?
>
> Unfortunately I am not able to generate a set of variables dynamically. 
> You see: I do not know beforehand which placeholders will be used in a 
> mailtemplate. So I go through the mailtemplate with the ListWidget, finding 
> the placeholders from the top part, generating the input elements. Creating 
> variables by this is of course not possible.
>
> But maybe someone here has an idea how to do this?
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW too slow to use at only 8 MB

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Reading your post, it sounds like you're still on 5.1.13. There were 
improvements in 5.1.20. I would suggest making a copy
of your file and upgrading it to 5.1.21.

It's really hard to diagnose at a distance. But you shouldn't be having 
serious problems with only 800 tiddlers and 8megs on *all* platforms.

Good luck!

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 5:43:20 AM UTC-7, S wrote:
>
> TW has gradually become slower and more unusable the more I add to it. It 
> is text only, no added plugins or other extras, entirely structured and 
> organized through tags, with three tiddlers of tags given their own Table 
> of Contents type arrangement in the main row of TW tabs.
>
> Tags are used in tree format to organize tiddlers by time (year tiddlers 
> and month-years within them), but I also use tags in the more traditional 
> sense for tagging tiddlers by topics. Aside from the tiddlers used to form 
> this structure, meaning all of my tiddlers that have actual content in them 
> and not just a line of code, those tend to have on average 2-10 tags each. 
> Some tags for subject matter rarely get used, while a few have been used 
> 100+ times.
>
> Many tiddlers have a lot of text but hopefully that's not the problem.
>
> I do not keep the expanding lists of tags in tree structure all expanded 
> at the same time, only what I need to reference.
>
> I was running an older version of TW5 when this issue began, and then 
> updated to 5.1.13 which was the new version at the time. This made no 
> difference.
>
> Whole TW file is 8 MB with 800 tiddlers (that I've made), and 140 tags.
>
> Opening, saving, and editing tiddlers and the TW are all slow. The worst 
> is typing text in a tiddler as oftentimes the characters appear very 
> delayed after I type them. All of the lag is a problem, but this is most 
> problematic of all. These performance issues persist through various high 
> spec computers, different OSes, multiple web browsers, TiddlyDesktop, 
> running off disk vs portable media, as the only thing running vs running 
> other programs or browser tabs, etc.
>
> TW is just miserable to use right now which is a shame considering how 
> much I love it when it works and how much time I put into it.
>
> I did read through an earlier thread which maybe identifies my problem, 
> possibly tags being used too many times.
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/number$20of$20tiddlers%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/q2DSlN_TAwAJ
>
> This plugin was mentioned towards the end of that thread that I think 
> utilizes fields instead of tags.
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/o3SH1PrQAwAJ
>
> Do you suspect my issue is tags rather than some other issue? If so, is 
> there an easy way to convert some or all of my tags to fields or some other 
> better-performing format while also maintaining the structure of tiddlers 
> created by tags? I haven't done coding in a long time and so most of the 
> coding in TW especially goes over my head. Tags make sense to me and I know 
> how to use them, whereas I have no idea how I'd turn fields into the same 
> structure I have if that's even possible and it looks like maybe there are 
> a lot of rules with fields? I don't know if there's a solution, or if there 
> is, if it's something I understand enough to do.
>
> Short of switching to a different platform, the only non-complex but 
> tedious and inefficient solution that might work is to make all of those 
> table of contents/expandable/lists of tiddlers in tiddlers (ruled by tags) 
> into ordinary static tiddlers without code, that I update by hand with 
> links to other tiddlers. So no longer would the tags let these lists 
> automatically generate, but I would by hand add links to tiddlers in all of 
> these places. For obvious reasons, I would rather not do this.
>
> Thanks!
>

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[tw5] TW too slow to use at only 8 MB

[TonyM]

S

There is much that can be done to help. I assume its a single file wiki and it 
has evolved over time?

tiddlywiki is open to massive numbers of tiddlees,  relationships and is 
flexible out of the box. This dose however allow methods that are less than 
optimal once you have large numbers. This is good in some ways because in most 
use cases its very flexible and you do not need to consider optimisation.

my first recommendations are;
hide the sidebar does performance improve?
Upgrade even just as a test to the latest release it has optimisations
Investigate if your browser is running out of its own space or your pc ram.
Turn off autosave to see if saving is slowing you down

Is your wiki very private? Can it be shared? even just to a few people?

If you can't share list size, browser, saving method any thing else that may 
help us diagnose it.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] TW too slow to use at only 8 MB

[S]

TW has gradually become slower and more unusable the more I add to it. It 
is text only, no added plugins or other extras, entirely structured and 
organized through tags, with three tiddlers of tags given their own Table 
of Contents type arrangement in the main row of TW tabs.

Tags are used in tree format to organize tiddlers by time (year tiddlers 
and month-years within them), but I also use tags in the more traditional 
sense for tagging tiddlers by topics. Aside from the tiddlers used to form 
this structure, meaning all of my tiddlers that have actual content in them 
and not just a line of code, those tend to have on average 2-10 tags each. 
Some tags for subject matter rarely get used, while a few have been used 
100+ times.

Many tiddlers have a lot of text but hopefully that's not the problem.

I do not keep the expanding lists of tags in tree structure all expanded at 
the same time, only what I need to reference.

I was running an older version of TW5 when this issue began, and then 
updated to 5.1.13 which was the new version at the time. This made no 
difference.

Whole TW file is 8 MB with 800 tiddlers (that I've made), and 140 tags.

Opening, saving, and editing tiddlers and the TW are all slow. The worst is 
typing text in a tiddler as oftentimes the characters appear very delayed 
after I type them. All of the lag is a problem, but this is most 
problematic of all. These performance issues persist through various high 
spec computers, different OSes, multiple web browsers, TiddlyDesktop, 
running off disk vs portable media, as the only thing running vs running 
other programs or browser tabs, etc.

TW is just miserable to use right now which is a shame considering how much 
I love it when it works and how much time I put into it.

I did read through an earlier thread which maybe identifies my problem, 
possibly tags being used too many times.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/tiddlywiki/number$20of$20tiddlers%7Csort:date/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/q2DSlN_TAwAJ

This plugin was mentioned towards the end of that thread that I think 
utilizes fields instead of tags.
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/U1ZKK8UIk94/o3SH1PrQAwAJ

Do you suspect my issue is tags rather than some other issue? If so, is 
there an easy way to convert some or all of my tags to fields or some other 
better-performing format while also maintaining the structure of tiddlers 
created by tags? I haven't done coding in a long time and so most of the 
coding in TW especially goes over my head. Tags make sense to me and I know 
how to use them, whereas I have no idea how I'd turn fields into the same 
structure I have if that's even possible and it looks like maybe there are 
a lot of rules with fields? I don't know if there's a solution, or if there 
is, if it's something I understand enough to do.

Short of switching to a different platform, the only non-complex but 
tedious and inefficient solution that might work is to make all of those 
table of contents/expandable/lists of tiddlers in tiddlers (ruled by tags) 
into ordinary static tiddlers without code, that I update by hand with 
links to other tiddlers. So no longer would the tags let these lists 
automatically generate, but I would by hand add links to tiddlers in all of 
these places. For obvious reasons, I would rather not do this.

Thanks!

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[tw5] Re: Experiment: GG layout from TW. Request for feedback. TEST #1

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Repeat for folk on email only...

I'm particularly interested in your comments!

Best wishes, TT

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 12:48:41 UTC+1, @TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> I’m trying to use TW more to create both emails and GG posts that look 
> decent. 
>
> This is an early test, but *I would be very grateful* for feedback 
> whether it looks okay and is useable, particularly…
>
>- If you receive posts through EMAIL
>- …or read on mobiles (is it too wide?)
>- Are the font sizes okay?
>- Colors okay?
>
> Best wishes TT 
>
> !!TEST LAYOUT!!
> SEARCH TIDDLYWIKI GOOGLE GROUP
>
> SEARCH FROM…
>
> Google GroupsDesktop  
> / Mobile  
>
> TiddlyWikireferencescollective 
>  
> *(courtesy 
> of A. Gloom 
> ,
>  
> in process)*
>
> The Mail ArchiveTheMailArchive.com 
> 
>
> BASICS
>
> Simple word searchwidget …try it 
> 
>
> Search for an exact string"Table of Contents" …try it 
> 
>
> Search in *subject* onlysubject:"Houston" …try it 
> 
>
> Find posts after a *date*after:2019-10-31 …try it 
> 
>
> Find posts by *author*author:"Mohammad" …try it 
> 
>
> Find threads by *tag*tag:plugin …try it 
> 
>
> EXAMPLES
>
> Posts by Mark S. re: "regexp" or "splitregexp" operators, or "regular 
> expression✱". From June 1st 2018 on.authorname:"Mark S." after:2018/05/31 
> (regexp OR splitregexp OR "regular expression✱)" …try it 
> 
>
> Posts by Jed Carty with "Bob" in the subjectauthorname:"Jed Carty" 
> subject:"Bob" …try it 
> 
>
> Posts from start of 2018 with the word "print✱" after:2017-12-31 print✱ …try 
> it 
> 
>
> Posts for the first 10 days of October 2019after:2019-09-30 
> before:2019-10-11 …try it 
> 
>
> CRIB NOTES
> MATCH
> in subject only subject:*string*
> a word *string*
> wildcarded word *string✱*
> an exact string "*string string*"
> author authorname:"*author name*"
> tag tag:*tagname*
> EXCLUDE
> don’t match *-string*
> DATES
> before a date before:*-MM-DD*
> after a date after:*-MM-DD*
> COMBINE
> AND *item1* AND *item2*
> OR *item1* OR *item2*
> OR group (*item1* OR *item2*)
> SORT ORDER
> relevance sort:relevance
> date sort:date
> NOTES
>
>- It is not usually necessary to *combine* search terms with "AND" as 
>it’s implied. 
>- Default order is "relevance"; "date" sort is always "latest first". 
> *Sort 
>order* can be toggled in GG result listings. 
>- The *wildcard* (✱) may match the next word.
>
>
> --
>
> 
> created inTiddlyWiki 
> — 
> formatted inMarkdown Here
>  
> *30th October 2019*
>
> ​
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[tw5] Re: How do I access an embedded binary file?

[PMario]

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 9:13:34 AM UTC+1, Michael Borgwardt wrote:
>
> I'm running TW on node.js, so storing binary files directly in Tiddlers is 
> unproblematic - they just get uploaded and stored as separate files.
>

As you found out, it is problematic, since the tiddlers directory is meant 
to be used for stuff, that can be used directly by the TiddlyWiki app. A 
pptx file can _not_ be directly used as a tiddler. ... That's the reason, 
why you have problems. 
 

> However, if I embed e.g. a Powerpoint file, how can I actually access it?
>

If you want to use 3rd party files and expect the browser to do, what 
browsers do, you will need to store your ppt files in the *files * 
directory as advised 
 
in the docs. 

Every file in the files directory will be accessible with 
[ext[./files/filename.ext]]. Depending on the extension and the browser, 
the browser will react in different ways. 
 

> I'm looking for a way to include a download link to the file in the text 
> of another Tiddler. But I can't find out how to do that. If I use a normal 
> link to the file's Tiddler, that just opens.
>

You can use a link like [ext[./files/yourFileName.pptx]] and the browser 
will open the link with a system dialogue, that asks what it should do. 

The drag and drop IMPORT mechanism can only be used for tiddlers. If you 
want to serve binary data, it has to go into the files directory. 

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: Philosophy & TW -- Title v. Content

[Sycom]

Maybe do not display {{!!title}} but a set of filter on the currentTiddler ?

Sylvain
@sycom

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[tw5] Re: How do I access an embedded binary file?

[A Gloom]

>
> But I don't *have* an URL or local path, that's the problem. The files get 
> uploaded to the server, but in a folder that the node.js server does not 
> make accessible through URLs or in any other way (as far as I can tell).


I see your problem-- I tested with single file : (  Hopefully, someone 
familiar with node.js will know.  Maybe the instructions on the official 
wiki were for single file TW only.  I think I'll stick wirh sigle file if 
node.js makes access to external files difficult (half my wiki's content is 
external files) 

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[tw5] Is there a way to generate a set of dynamical variables?

[Stephan Hradek]

Background of my question: For a colleague who often needs to write 
standard mails I've created a TiddlyWiki where one can create 2 tiddlers. 
One with the standard mailtext using place holders. The placeholders are 
also defined in the template. Example below. The other tiddler is simply 
one piping the mailtemplate-tiddler through a tiddler which will generate 
the form to fill in the placeholders.

Example for the mailtemplate:

[[subject:Request for offer {{!!company}}]]
[[recipients:offerman@my.company]]
[[company:Company Name]]
[[due_date:Due date]]
[[revenue:Annual revenue]]
[[known_cb,not,already:Company known]]

Dear Mr. Offerman

The company {{!!company}} asked for an offer.

Their annual revenue is {{!!revenue}}.

The due date is {{!!due_date]].

{{!!company}} is {{known_cb}} known to us.

Best regards…

The tiddler showing the form is then just something like this:

{{
   Mailtemplate:Request for offer -- Generate Mail
||
   Create Mail
}}

and the resulting form will look something like this:

++-+
| Recipients | offerman@my.company |
++-+
| Subject| Request for offer {{!!company}} |
++-+
| Company| [_] |
++-+
| Due date   | [_] [cal]   |
++-+
| Annual revenue | [_] |
++-+
|Company known   | [_] already |
++-+


This already works quite well, but I do not really like the notation of the 
placeholders {{!!placeholder}}. This is due to the fact that the generated 
form simply stores the values in fields in the mailtemplate.

Since I had difficulties with the recipients and the subject, they are not 
editable and are not in fields. I first wanted to make them editable but 
this did not work as the defaults won't appear unless the tiddler, where 
the fields are located, does not exist. Moreover the defaults are not 
stored unless you explicitly go into the fields. As a result these 2 values 
are stored in variables.

So my next idea was: Wouldn't it be nice, placeholders could be written in 
the form <>?

Unfortunately I am not able to generate a set of variables dynamically. You 
see: I do not know beforehand which placeholders will be used in a 
mailtemplate. So I go through the mailtemplate with the ListWidget, finding 
the placeholders from the top part, generating the input elements. Creating 
variables by this is of course not possible.

But maybe someone here has an idea how to do this?




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[tw5] Re: How do I access an embedded binary file?

[Michael Borgwardt]

Am Dienstag, 29. Oktober 2019 23:31:44 UTC+1 schrieb A Gloom:
>
> then type your url or local path into a tiddler's text body/field (or a 
> custom field to read) ie: 
> file:///C:/Unit%202%20PPT%20Scientific%20Notation-2.ppt
>

But I don't *have* an URL or local path, that's the problem. The files get 
uploaded to the server, but in a folder that the node.js server does not 
make accessible through URLs or in any other way (as far as I can tell).

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[Jon]

Will do when I get home from work later.

Thanks
Jon

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 08:34:25 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Jon,
>  Seems there is a bug!
> Please check the 1.4.0 and let me know how it works
>
> https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 11:55:36 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> 1:3:0
>>
>> If I remove the exclamation mark, it indicates  *A new filter search has 
>> been detected *but nothing changes after clicking the search button.
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 07:55:13 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Jon,
>>> Would you please tell me the version of Commander you are using?
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:14:16 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:

 Hi Mohammad,

 All my tags are lower case but the filter works fine in Advanced Search 
 - for instance, if I remove the ! the order reverses as expected.

 However, if I copy the filter to the Commander, the sort order doesn't 
 work at all.

 That's odd then, if it works in yours.

 Regards
 Jon

 On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 06:11:09 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Jon
> The journal in TW normally tagged with Journal with capital J.
> Have you tried your filter in $:/AdvancedSearch?
> Does it return the correct results?
>
>
> For me it works!
> e.g [tag[Journal]!sort[created]]
>
> both in Commander and TW advanced search.
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 1:16:46 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wanted to use Tiddler Commander to export the last month of journal 
>> entries which I would have done by adding a temporary tag.
>>
>> However, I noticed that the filter doesn't seem to work completely.
>>
>> For instance <$list filter="[tag[journal]!sort[created]]"> will bring 
>> up the journal tiddlers but it won't apply the sort.
>>
>> Good if this could be included
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
>> p.s. apologies for the typo - can't seem to edit the title.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[Mohammad]

Jon,
 Seems there is a bug!
Please check the 1.4.0 and let me know how it works

https://github.com/kookma/TW-Commander

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 11:55:36 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> 1:3:0
>
> If I remove the exclamation mark, it indicates  *A new filter search has 
> been detected *but nothing changes after clicking the search button.
>
> Regards
> Jon
>
> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 07:55:13 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Jon,
>> Would you please tell me the version of Commander you are using?
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:14:16 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Mohammad,
>>>
>>> All my tags are lower case but the filter works fine in Advanced Search 
>>> - for instance, if I remove the ! the order reverses as expected.
>>>
>>> However, if I copy the filter to the Commander, the sort order doesn't 
>>> work at all.
>>>
>>> That's odd then, if it works in yours.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 06:11:09 UTC, Mohammad wrote:

 Hi Jon
 The journal in TW normally tagged with Journal with capital J.
 Have you tried your filter in $:/AdvancedSearch?
 Does it return the correct results?


 For me it works!
 e.g [tag[Journal]!sort[created]]

 both in Commander and TW advanced search.

 --Mohammad



 On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 1:16:46 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to use Tiddler Commander to export the last month of journal 
> entries which I would have done by adding a temporary tag.
>
> However, I noticed that the filter doesn't seem to work completely.
>
> For instance <$list filter="[tag[journal]!sort[created]]"> will bring 
> up the journal tiddlers but it won't apply the sort.
>
> Good if this could be included
>
> Regards
> Jon
>
> p.s. apologies for the typo - can't seem to edit the title.
>


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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[Jon]

Hi Mohammad,

1:3:0

If I remove the exclamation mark, it indicates  *A new filter search has 
been detected *but nothing changes after clicking the search button.

Regards
Jon

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 07:55:13 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Jon,
> Would you please tell me the version of Commander you are using?
>
> --Mohammad
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:14:16 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi Mohammad,
>>
>> All my tags are lower case but the filter works fine in Advanced Search - 
>> for instance, if I remove the ! the order reverses as expected.
>>
>> However, if I copy the filter to the Commander, the sort order doesn't 
>> work at all.
>>
>> That's odd then, if it works in yours.
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
>> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 06:11:09 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jon
>>> The journal in TW normally tagged with Journal with capital J.
>>> Have you tried your filter in $:/AdvancedSearch?
>>> Does it return the correct results?
>>>
>>>
>>> For me it works!
>>> e.g [tag[Journal]!sort[created]]
>>>
>>> both in Commander and TW advanced search.
>>>
>>> --Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 1:16:46 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:

 Hi,

 I wanted to use Tiddler Commander to export the last month of journal 
 entries which I would have done by adding a temporary tag.

 However, I noticed that the filter doesn't seem to work completely.

 For instance <$list filter="[tag[journal]!sort[created]]"> will bring 
 up the journal tiddlers but it won't apply the sort.

 Good if this could be included

 Regards
 Jon

 p.s. apologies for the typo - can't seem to edit the title.

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[Mohammad]

Jon,
Would you please tell me the version of Commander you are using?

--Mohammad

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 10:14:16 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi Mohammad,
>
> All my tags are lower case but the filter works fine in Advanced Search - 
> for instance, if I remove the ! the order reverses as expected.
>
> However, if I copy the filter to the Commander, the sort order doesn't 
> work at all.
>
> That's odd then, if it works in yours.
>
> Regards
> Jon
>
> On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 06:11:09 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jon
>> The journal in TW normally tagged with Journal with capital J.
>> Have you tried your filter in $:/AdvancedSearch?
>> Does it return the correct results?
>>
>>
>> For me it works!
>> e.g [tag[Journal]!sort[created]]
>>
>> both in Commander and TW advanced search.
>>
>> --Mohammad
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 1:16:46 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I wanted to use Tiddler Commander to export the last month of journal 
>>> entries which I would have done by adding a temporary tag.
>>>
>>> However, I noticed that the filter doesn't seem to work completely.
>>>
>>> For instance <$list filter="[tag[journal]!sort[created]]"> will bring up 
>>> the journal tiddlers but it won't apply the sort.
>>>
>>> Good if this could be included
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> p.s. apologies for the typo - can't seem to edit the title.
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[Mohammad]

I will check that and return to you

On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 11:03:53 AM UTC+3:30, A Gloom wrote:
>
> If he's using the top bar search, he may be right-- I was trying different 
> search filters with sort operator, including the default filters, having 
> sort operators, provided by the search bar and it didn't change the order 
> of titles (with the selection checkboxes) displayed below it when I altered 
> the sort operator..
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[A Gloom]

If he's using the top bar search, he may be right-- I was trying different 
search filters with sort operator, including the default filters, having 
sort operators, provided by the search bar and it didn't change the order 
of titles (with the selection checkboxes) displayed below it when I altered 
the sort operator..

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[Jon]

Hi Mohammad,

All my tags are lower case but the filter works fine in Advanced Search - 
for instance, if I remove the ! the order reverses as expected.

However, if I copy the filter to the Commander, the sort order doesn't work 
at all.

That's odd then, if it works in yours.

Regards
Jon

On Wednesday, 30 October 2019 06:11:09 UTC, Mohammad wrote:
>
> Hi Jon
> The journal in TW normally tagged with Journal with capital J.
> Have you tried your filter in $:/AdvancedSearch?
> Does it return the correct results?
>
>
> For me it works!
> e.g [tag[Journal]!sort[created]]
>
> both in Commander and TW advanced search.
>
> --Mohammad
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 1:16:46 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wanted to use Tiddler Commander to export the last month of journal 
>> entries which I would have done by adding a temporary tag.
>>
>> However, I noticed that the filter doesn't seem to work completely.
>>
>> For instance <$list filter="[tag[journal]!sort[created]]"> will bring up 
>> the journal tiddlers but it won't apply the sort.
>>
>> Good if this could be included
>>
>> Regards
>> Jon
>>
>> p.s. apologies for the typo - can't seem to edit the title.
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Commander filter

[Mohammad]

Hi Jon
The journal in TW normally tagged with Journal with capital J.
Have you tried your filter in $:/AdvancedSearch?
Does it return the correct results?


For me it works!
e.g [tag[Journal]!sort[created]]

both in Commander and TW advanced search.

--Mohammad



On Wednesday, October 30, 2019 at 1:16:46 AM UTC+3:30, Jon wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to use Tiddler Commander to export the last month of journal 
> entries which I would have done by adding a temporary tag.
>
> However, I noticed that the filter doesn't seem to work completely.
>
> For instance <$list filter="[tag[journal]!sort[created]]"> will bring up 
> the journal tiddlers but it won't apply the sort.
>
> Good if this could be included
>
> Regards
> Jon
>
> p.s. apologies for the typo - can't seem to edit the title.
>

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