[tw5] Re: Improving HTA on Windows

[TiddlyTweeter]

bimlas

We could associate the HTA files with NW.js, so this could be a 
> cross-platform solution.
>

Useful comment!

nw --url="file:///absolute/path/of/tiddlywiki.html"
>

Right. TiddlyDesktop doesn't support yet, as far as I can see, relative 
addressing. Which makes "wrapped install" of TD with wiki not possible at 
the moment.
TD is particularly good for its MENU environment, ideal for *sets* of 
wikis. Even more than the .hta approach it looks like an app and can be 
treated as one.

Thoughts
TT

On Thursday, 27 February 2020 08:26:23 UTC+1, bimlas wrote:
>
> TonyM,
>
> It is only partially related to the topic: HTA hack only works on Windows 
> and is not recommended to use (legacy). TiddlyDesktop uses NW.js (
> https://nwjs.io/), which can be used as a minimal browser. Although I 
> haven't been able to configure it to let the wiki save the changes 
> automatically (overwrite the HTML by self), but I can open the files with 
> it. The command is:
>
> nw --url="file:///absolute/path/of/tiddlywiki.html"
>
> We could associate the HTA files with NW.js, so this could be a 
> cross-platform solution.
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to create link link CamelCase but with dash in it?

[TonyM]

Mario

Thanks. That explains a lot more. Would it be ok to nest it in a div, perhaps 
the div could have a class so styles could be applied e.g. the paragraph style, 
thus the transition to multiple paragraphs could be changed e.g. 1.5 line space 
between paragraphs.

Regards
Tony

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[tw5] Re: Improving HTA on Windows

[bimlas]

TonyM,

It is only partially related to the topic: HTA hack only works on Windows 
and is not recommended to use (legacy). TiddlyDesktop uses NW.js 
(https://nwjs.io/), which can be used as a minimal browser. Although I 
haven't been able to configure it to let the wiki save the changes 
automatically (overwrite the HTML by self), but I can open the files with 
it. The command is:

nw --url="file:///absolute/path/of/tiddlywiki.html"

We could associate the HTA files with NW.js, so this could be a 
cross-platform solution.

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[tw5] Re: Remove Tag Icon

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:09:34 PM UTC-8, plaseo wrote:
>
> Thanks Eric that worked! 
> Also thank you for the Tiddly Tools site, just discovered from your reply 
> to my question and it looks like a great resource. 
> I'm wondering if there's a way to hide tags in view mode when not editing 
> a tiddler? I'm wanting just a bit cleaner look but almost have it just the 
> way I'd like it. 
>

Create a tiddler with any title (e.g., "MyStyles") and tag it with 
"$:/tags/Stylesheet"
Then, in the text field of that tiddler, enter:
.tc-tags-wrapper { display:none; }

This defines a CSS rule that overrides the default tags display style when 
*viewing* a tiddler.  The tags will still be visible when *editing* a 
tiddler because that tags display uses a different CSS class 
(.tc-edit-tags).

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: sum of column

[Morgaine O'Herne]

I did it like this:  All of the data in the columns is in the Fields.   You 
can see this at http://morgensharn.tiddlyspot.com. The tiddler is "Eriel - 
Armor Weight."

@@.table
|ITEM|WEIGHT|
|{{!!a1}}|{{!!b1}}|
|{{!!a2}}|{{!!b2}}|
|{{!!a3}}|{{!!b3}}|
|{{!!a4}}|{{!!b4}}|
|{{!!a5}}|{{!!b5}}|
|{{!!a6}}|{{!!b6}}|
|{{!!a7}}|{{!!b7}}|
|{{!!a8}}|{{!!b8}}|
|{{!!a9}}|{{!!b9}}|
|{{!!a10}}|{{!!b10}}|
|TOTAL|<$macrocall $name="eval"  
cell="(=!!b1+!!b2+!!b3+!!b4+!!b5+!!b6+!!b7+!!b8+!!b9+!!b10)" format="2" 
target="armor">|
@@



On Sunday, February 23, 2020 at 12:49:12 AM UTC-7, Gerald Weis wrote:
>
> Hi Folks
>
> i have a table with 2 columns of numbers.
> now i want to have the sum from every columns.
>
> the Position of the sum shoud be above or below the columns.
>
> I have no solution found for this.
>
>
> Any Ideas?
>
> thanks for all
>

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[tw5] Re: Remove Tag Icon

[plaseo]

Thanks Eric that worked! 
Also thank you for the Tiddly Tools site, just discovered from your reply 
to my question and it looks like a great resource. 
I'm wondering if there's a way to hide tags in view mode when not editing a 
tiddler? I'm wanting just a bit cleaner look but almost have it just the 
way I'd like it. 

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 11:43:11 PM UTC-6, Eric Shulman wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 9:25:54 PM UTC-8, plaseo wrote:
>>
>> In the tag manager I accidentally added an icon to my TableOfContents tag 
>> and I can't remove the icon but can only seem to change it. I even tried to 
>> delete all the TableOfContent tags which looked to effectively delete the 
>> TableOfConent tag altogether but when I tried to re-add the tag the icon 
>> comes back. 
>> Any assistance is appreciated, thank you! (also TiddlyWiki is pretty 
>> neat, I've only been using it a few days and I've been spending hours 
>> enjoying fiddling with it)
>>
>
> Go to the tiddler that is your TableOfContents tag and edit it.
> Below the text input field, there should be a field named "icon" that 
> shows the name of the tiddler containing the icon image.
> On the right, next to the icon field input, there will be a trash can 
> icon.  Click that to remove the icon field from that tiddler.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
> Eric Shulman
> TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
> InsideTiddlyWiki - http://www.TiddlyTools.com/InsideTW
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Remove Tag Icon

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 9:25:54 PM UTC-8, plaseo wrote:
>
> In the tag manager I accidentally added an icon to my TableOfContents tag 
> and I can't remove the icon but can only seem to change it. I even tried to 
> delete all the TableOfContent tags which looked to effectively delete the 
> TableOfConent tag altogether but when I tried to re-add the tag the icon 
> comes back. 
> Any assistance is appreciated, thank you! (also TiddlyWiki is pretty neat, 
> I've only been using it a few days and I've been spending hours enjoying 
> fiddling with it)
>

Go to the tiddler that is your TableOfContents tag and edit it.
Below the text input field, there should be a field named "icon" that shows 
the name of the tiddler containing the icon image.
On the right, next to the icon field input, there will be a trash can 
icon.  Click that to remove the icon field from that tiddler.

enjoy,
-e
Eric Shulman
TiddlyTools.com: "Small Tools for Big Ideas!" (tm)
InsideTiddlyWiki - http://www.TiddlyTools.com/InsideTW

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[tw5] Remove Tag Icon

[plaseo]

In the tag manager I accidentally added an icon to my TableOfContents tag 
and I can't remove the icon but can only seem to change it. I even tried to 
delete all the TableOfContent tags which looked to effectively delete the 
TableOfConent tag altogether but when I tried to re-add the tag the icon 
comes back. 
Any assistance is appreciated, thank you! (also TiddlyWiki is pretty neat, 
I've only been using it a few days and I've been spending hours enjoying 
fiddling with it)

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[tw5] Re: sum of column

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

This isn't really a data-driven or a tiddler-driven project. All I did was 
make a macro to calculate 
the total yearly amounts, then do the calculation 3 times, each time 
putting it in a different
variable. Then, at the bottom, just sum the variables.

This is not the approach you would want if you were tracking dozens or 
hundreds of cars, but
if there is only one or two then it might work. That's why I asked about 
the number of vehicles.
The highly professional presentation makes me wonder if there is a larger 
goal in view.

A tiddler-driven approach would require a lot more effort to understand 
what is being tracked.

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 3:30:35 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Mark,
>
> Could you please do an English version to help us read it?, if possible. I 
> am keen to read how you sum a calculated "column".
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 7:15:07 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>>
>> Here's what I made for
>>
>> Versicherung - 2020
>>
>> Enter code here...\define jahrlich(zm,lw) {{{ [[$lw$]multiply[12]divide[
>> $zm$]fixed[2]] }}}
>> <>
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>> <$wikify text=<> name=jahres1> 
>> <$wikify text=<> name=jahres2> 
>> <$wikify text=<>  name=jahres3> 
>> <$vars jahresrate={{{ [][]+[sum[]] }}} 
>>rate={{{ [[308.22]][[249.65]]+[sum[]] }}}
>> >
>> <$macrocall $name=VersZwiSumme Rate=<> Jahresrate=<> />
>>
>> <>
>> <$vars jahresrate={{{ [][][]+[sum[]] }}} >
>> <$macrocall $name=VersGesSumme Jahresrate=<> />
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>
>> Do you plan on doing this for just two cars, or many cars?
>>
>> This approach will be difficult for many cars.
>>
>> For many cars, you will need something like the "dyanmic tables" that 
>> Mohammad suggests. And you
>> will need to put your data (rates, monthly payments, etc.) into tiddlers. 
>> The tables you create with
>> "dynamic tables" may not be as attractive, but they will be easier to 
>> maintain.
>>
>> Viel Glück!
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 1:47:24 AM UTC-8, Gerald Weis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Mark
>>>
>>> i can do this.
>>>
>>> that is the wiki with the complete data.
>>> i hope you have idea or solution for me.
>>>
>>> thanks 
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>> the complete Wiki is appended
>>>
>>> Am Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 01:21:08 UTC+1 schrieb Mark S.:

 Can you post your tiddlywiki somewhere?

 These macros do not show us your calculations, and we do not know the 
 structure of your tiddlers. Even
 in English it would be hard to help without these things.

 This macro has at least one error:
 

> \define Verskauf(Unternehmen Versart Regionalklasse Typklasse 
> BeitragssatzProzent Zahlmonate LautZahlweise Jahresrate)
> <$vars Jahr=  {{{ [[$LautZahlweise$]multiply[12]divide[$Zahlmonate$]] 
> }}}>
> <$vars Jahr={{{[fixed[2]]}}}>
> 
> $Unternehmen$
> $Versart$
> $Regionalklasse$
> $Typklasse$
> $BeitragssatzProzent$
> $Zahlmonate$
> $LautZahlweise$ €
> <> €
> 
> 
> \end
>
> The second <$vars> tag must match a second <$/vars> closing tag. All 
> opening tags must match a closing tag.
>
 <$vars Jahr=.>
 <$vars Jahr= mehr ...>
  macro code 
  FIRST CLOSING TAG
  SECOND CLOSING TAG

 Good luck!

  

>>>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to create link link CamelCase but with dash in it?

[PMario]

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 12:27:36 AM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:

Perhaps you are not interested but It would help me (and I believe others 
> would like it) a lot.
>

I wouldn't discuss it, if I wouldn't be interested. I just need to 
understand it in a broader context. 
 

> But the question is why is the addition of such bespoke markup not 
> possible?
>

It is possible -- and it should create html markup that is in line with the 
html spec. The spec is important for eg: accessibility tools like screen 
readers. So our wikitext should produce output, that doesn't confuse those 
tools. 
 

> , from what I can see programmatically it should be trivial, perhaps even 
> entries in a data tiddler to define them. 
>

Not really trivial. ... The elements you pointed out, are all part of the 
list-parser. So they create 2 elements. 
eg: 
* test ... creates an  wrapper and  elements. 
; test ... creates a  wrapper and  elements. 

So if the leading-dot is added, in a naive way it creates nested 
paragraphs, which is outside the html specs. 
I did test it with a  
 wrapper 
and  elements which seems to be OK. 

eg: 

.test 1
.test 2

will give us


test 1
test 2
 

There may be other possibilities, to add this behaviour, but I didn't think 
about that ... yet. 

-mario

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[tw5] Re: Improving HTA on Windows

[Scott Kingery]

Looking at the Microsoft Documentation, it looks like they were locked as 
of 2013.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions//ms536471(v=vs.85)?redirectedfrom=MSDN

It seems to still work though. I could see a use case and it isn't terrible 
because if in Windows Next they decide to completely kill it off you could 
rename the file back to .html and figure out where to go from there.


On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 5:08:42 PM UTC-8, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> Saving a TiddlyWiki as a HTA file on windows machines allows immediate 
> access in its own window with saving automatic.
>
> This is a quick path to adoption, as a result I would like to explore it 
> further to support ease of adoption and its use one the local computer.
>
> HTA files activate the  mshta.exe application found in C:\Windows\SysWOW64 
> this is sometimes a vector for malware but if your computer is secure you 
> should be fine.
>
>- Is this mshta.exe on a fresh install of Windows 10 (Without IE) or 
>with the new edge browser?
>- Application links want to download which reduces desktop interaction 
>(Unlike the same in TiddlyDesktop), can we fix this?
>- A Windows shortcut allows you to open the HTA maximised or minimised 
>as well.
>- The HTA application is visible in the running apps of task manager 
>and lists the open instances. I wonder if we could use this to create a 
>launch script that will not load the same hts file more than once?, to 
> stop 
>on overwitiing the other.
>- Could we introduce a user ID or lock method so these can be placed 
>on a LAN drive and force serial editing, if so it would become a tool for 
>teams?
>
> your thoughts or insight please
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: sum of column

[TonyM]

Mark,

Could you please do an English version to help us read it?, if possible. I 
am keen to read how you sum a calculated "column".

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 7:15:07 AM UTC+11, Mark S. wrote:
>
> Here's what I made for
>
> Versicherung - 2020
>
> Enter code here...\define jahrlich(zm,lw) {{{ [[$lw$]multiply[12]divide[
> $zm$]fixed[2]] }}}
> <>
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
> <$wikify text=<> name=jahres1> 
> <$wikify text=<> name=jahres2> 
> <$wikify text=<>  name=jahres3> 
> <$vars jahresrate={{{ [][]+[sum[]] }}} 
>rate={{{ [[308.22]][[249.65]]+[sum[]] }}}
> >
> <$macrocall $name=VersZwiSumme Rate=<> Jahresrate=<> />
>
> <>
> <$vars jahresrate={{{ [][][]+[sum[]] }}} >
> <$macrocall $name=VersGesSumme Jahresrate=<> />
> 
> 
> 
>
> Do you plan on doing this for just two cars, or many cars?
>
> This approach will be difficult for many cars.
>
> For many cars, you will need something like the "dyanmic tables" that 
> Mohammad suggests. And you
> will need to put your data (rates, monthly payments, etc.) into tiddlers. 
> The tables you create with
> "dynamic tables" may not be as attractive, but they will be easier to 
> maintain.
>
> Viel Glück!
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 1:47:24 AM UTC-8, Gerald Weis wrote:
>>
>> Hello Mark
>>
>> i can do this.
>>
>> that is the wiki with the complete data.
>> i hope you have idea or solution for me.
>>
>> thanks 
>> Gerald
>>
>> the complete Wiki is appended
>>
>> Am Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 01:21:08 UTC+1 schrieb Mark S.:
>>>
>>> Can you post your tiddlywiki somewhere?
>>>
>>> These macros do not show us your calculations, and we do not know the 
>>> structure of your tiddlers. Even
>>> in English it would be hard to help without these things.
>>>
>>> This macro has at least one error:
>>> 
>>>
 \define Verskauf(Unternehmen Versart Regionalklasse Typklasse 
 BeitragssatzProzent Zahlmonate LautZahlweise Jahresrate)
 <$vars Jahr=  {{{ [[$LautZahlweise$]multiply[12]divide[$Zahlmonate$]] 
 }}}>
 <$vars Jahr={{{[fixed[2]]}}}>
 
 $Unternehmen$
 $Versart$
 $Regionalklasse$
 $Typklasse$
 $BeitragssatzProzent$
 $Zahlmonate$
 $LautZahlweise$ €
 <> €
 
 
 \end

 The second <$vars> tag must match a second <$/vars> closing tag. All 
 opening tags must match a closing tag.

>>> <$vars Jahr=.>
>>> <$vars Jahr= mehr ...>
>>>  macro code 
>>>  FIRST CLOSING TAG
>>>  SECOND CLOSING TAG
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to create link link CamelCase but with dash in it?

[TonyM]

Mario,

I would expect a dot at the beginning to simply do this.

This text is wrapped because there was a "dot" at the beginning of the 
line

To me this is a very valuable tool for use in my own wikis, not only for 
massaging imported content but helping me structure notes as I compose 
them. It would be easy to remove all leading periods if required and if we 
copy the resultant html for reuse it is good for sharing.

I want a bespoke setting here, not a change to the fundamental markup 
standards, and if possible offer the option for other bespoke leading 
charater markup. eg someone may like to indicate sections or chapters 
etc... with their own markup, basically allowing a markup character to be 
defined use standard html tags, tags not already catered for in wikitext or 
widgets.

Perhaps you are not interested but It would help me (and I believe others 
would like it) a lot. But the question is why is the addition of such 
bespoke markup not possible?, from what I can see programmatically it 
should be trivial, perhaps even entries in a data tiddler to define them. 

With an Editor toolbar  button I can turn all lines into paragraphs buy, 
select all, click, prepending the lines with a period.

One way to test the value is to copy a big block of multi paragraph lorum 
ipsum then use a editor toolbar item to select all lines and prepend with 
";"

Empty `` tags collapse to one blank line between paragraphs and 
indicating the "pre-wrapped" line starts helps and editor review the 
layout, especially for content sourced elsewhere. Which often contains 
multiple blank lines, using this they all collapse to a single blank line 
when rendered.

In rapid note taking I use ";" and ":" a lot, and this would complement 
these by providing automatically managed paragraphs. There is no non-bold 
equivalent to ";". 

If you have another character or markup pattern in mind happy to consider. 
But I realy, realy, want this, given my personal organiser, my data 
imports, note taking in courses etc.. Material I add tends to go nowhere 
but in my own personal wikis.

And yes, for some people this will satisfy there frustration with the line 
breaks.

Regards
Tony

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 4:37:01 AM UTC+11, PMario wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 11:13:54 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
> ..
>
>> You are a wizard with this kind of thing, I hope you could assist me. I 
>> ask now because your above solution is slow close to what I have asked for 
>> for some time.
>>
> ... 
>
>>
>>- I really want the leading period "." to trigger a html paragraph 
>>around multiple sentences until we get to end of line (line break)
>>
>> I have seen this request, but I don't understand it. I think the first 
> time it came up with the "single linebreak" - "hard linebreak" in 
> paragraphs discussion. 
>
> In my thinking having a dot at the start of the wikitext line is annoying. 
> I'd rather go with some spaces, which you can sometimes see. 
>
> Also inserting a dot at the beginning of a line is the same manual work as 
> hitting [Enter] or even 2 times Enter, to create a real wikitext paragraph. 
>
> The second problem I have is, that a "hard paragraph" will create HTML 
> code like this: 
>
> 
> This text is wrapped because there was a "dot" at the beginning of the 
> line
> 
>
> Which is ugly, since TW already suffers from "divitis 
> ". So imo we shouldn't add 
> "paragraphitis" if we can avoid it ;)
>
> Mario
>

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[tw5] Re: sum of column

['Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki]

Here's what I made for

Versicherung - 2020

Enter code here...\define jahrlich(zm,lw) {{{ [[$lw$]multiply[12]divide[$zm$
]fixed[2]] }}}
<>

<>
<>
<>
<$wikify text=<> name=jahres1> 
<$wikify text=<> name=jahres2> 
<$wikify text=<>  name=jahres3> 
<$vars jahresrate={{{ [][]+[sum[]] }}} 
   rate={{{ [[308.22]][[249.65]]+[sum[]] }}}
>
<$macrocall $name=VersZwiSumme Rate=<> Jahresrate=<> />

<>
<$vars jahresrate={{{ [][][]+[sum[]] }}} >
<$macrocall $name=VersGesSumme Jahresrate=<> />




Do you plan on doing this for just two cars, or many cars?

This approach will be difficult for many cars.

For many cars, you will need something like the "dyanmic tables" that 
Mohammad suggests. And you
will need to put your data (rates, monthly payments, etc.) into tiddlers. 
The tables you create with
"dynamic tables" may not be as attractive, but they will be easier to 
maintain.

Viel Glück!

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 1:47:24 AM UTC-8, Gerald Weis wrote:
>
> Hello Mark
>
> i can do this.
>
> that is the wiki with the complete data.
> i hope you have idea or solution for me.
>
> thanks 
> Gerald
>
> the complete Wiki is appended
>
> Am Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2020 01:21:08 UTC+1 schrieb Mark S.:
>>
>> Can you post your tiddlywiki somewhere?
>>
>> These macros do not show us your calculations, and we do not know the 
>> structure of your tiddlers. Even
>> in English it would be hard to help without these things.
>>
>> This macro has at least one error:
>> 
>>
>>> \define Verskauf(Unternehmen Versart Regionalklasse Typklasse 
>>> BeitragssatzProzent Zahlmonate LautZahlweise Jahresrate)
>>> <$vars Jahr=  {{{ [[$LautZahlweise$]multiply[12]divide[$Zahlmonate$]] 
>>> }}}>
>>> <$vars Jahr={{{[fixed[2]]}}}>
>>> 
>>> $Unternehmen$
>>> $Versart$
>>> $Regionalklasse$
>>> $Typklasse$
>>> $BeitragssatzProzent$
>>> $Zahlmonate$
>>> $LautZahlweise$ €
>>> <> €
>>> 
>>> 
>>> \end
>>>
>>> The second <$vars> tag must match a second <$/vars> closing tag. All 
>>> opening tags must match a closing tag.
>>>
>> <$vars Jahr=.>
>> <$vars Jahr= mehr ...>
>>  macro code 
>>  FIRST CLOSING TAG
>>  SECOND CLOSING TAG
>>
>> Good luck!
>>
>>  
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to create link link CamelCase but with dash in it?

[PMario]

On Tuesday, February 25, 2020 at 11:13:54 PM UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
..

> You are a wizard with this kind of thing, I hope you could assist me. I 
> ask now because your above solution is slow close to what I have asked for 
> for some time.
>
... 

>
>- I really want the leading period "." to trigger a html paragraph 
>around multiple sentences until we get to end of line (line break)
>
> I have seen this request, but I don't understand it. I think the first 
time it came up with the "single linebreak" - "hard linebreak" in 
paragraphs discussion. 

In my thinking having a dot at the start of the wikitext line is annoying. 
I'd rather go with some spaces, which you can sometimes see. 

Also inserting a dot at the beginning of a line is the same manual work as 
hitting [Enter] or even 2 times Enter, to create a real wikitext paragraph. 

The second problem I have is, that a "hard paragraph" will create HTML code 
like this: 


This text is wrapped because there was a "dot" at the beginning of the 
line


Which is ugly, since TW already suffers from "divitis 
". So imo we shouldn't add "paragraphitis" 
if we can avoid it ;)

Mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: (re-)Presenting: LeftBar - a menu type sidebar, on the left

[Justin Hurd]

Awesome, i cant wait to mess around with this :D

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020, 12:10 PM Mat  wrote:

> Justin
>
> text is entered into the left tab, that it does not stretch all the way
>> down to the bottom of the window
>>
> ...
>> move the scroll bar to the left of the new sidebar as well, mirroring the
>> right sidebar.
>
>
> Yeah... why the heck did I limit the height like that? And scrollbar on
> the left side is a cool idea!
> Anyway: In the tiddler $:/plugins/TWaddle/LeftBar/Stylesheet try the
> following changes (i.e only the text in yellow)
>
> .leftbar-content {
>  position:{{!!position}};
>  max-width:calc(42px + {{!!width}});
>  left:0px;
>  top:3em;
>  padding:0em 10px 5px 10px;
>  background:none;
>  min-height:50vh;
>  max-height:calc(100vh - 3em);
>  overflow-y:auto;
> }
> .leftbar-content * {
> direction:ltr;
> }
> .leftbar-content {
> direction: rtl;
> }
>
> <:-)
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[tw5] Re: (re-)Presenting: LeftBar - a menu type sidebar, on the left

[Mat]

Justin

text is entered into the left tab, that it does not stretch all the way 
> down to the bottom of the window
>
...
> move the scroll bar to the left of the new sidebar as well, mirroring the 
> right sidebar.

 
Yeah... why the heck did I limit the height like that? And scrollbar on the 
left side is a cool idea!
Anyway: In the tiddler $:/plugins/TWaddle/LeftBar/Stylesheet try the 
following changes (i.e only the text in yellow)

.leftbar-content {
 position:{{!!position}};
 max-width:calc(42px + {{!!width}});
 left:0px;
 top:3em;
 padding:0em 10px 5px 10px;
 background:none;
 min-height:50vh;
 max-height:calc(100vh - 3em);
 overflow-y:auto;
}
.leftbar-content * {
direction:ltr;
}
.leftbar-content {
direction: rtl;
}

<:-)

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Re: [tw5] Re: Is there a way to create link link CamelCase but with dash in it?

[PMario]

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 5:22:03 PM UTC+1, Jeremy Ruston wrote:
>
> I haven't been able to test it, but you should be able to accomplish this 
> with a simple module that overrides $tw.config.textPrimitives.wikiLink (see 
> $:/core/modules/config.js)
>

I have checked that route, but I wanted to be able to configure it with 
ControlPanel settings and the \rules pragma for fine grained control.

-m

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[tw5] Re: Query: Smart Quotes?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao PMario

I think "back-conversion" to wikitext of quotes would be easy since you 
would not to need to match context I think?

You are right that FancyQuotes includes things that aren't quotes and it 
would be better to have I'd dedicated to them.

FYI in my own use I starting using a clone of FQ as a general converter 
(personal use only to prepare imported texts)

TT


On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 14:29:25 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> Hi TT
>
> I did just create a new Keyboard Layout DLL for Windows 10, that has 
> „“‚‘»« nicely assigned to CTRL-SHIFT-1 to 6. 
>
> It also changes the ` Backtick "dead-key" setting, to be an active key, 
> which is OK for German language. 
>
> ---
>
> I'm still in favour of a pragma, editor-button solution. ... similar to 
> "fancyquotes". ... but without the en em replace
>
> I would also want to have an option the does "undo hardcoded quotes" -> 
> wikitext
>
> -mario
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Is there a way to create link link CamelCase but with dash in it?

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mario

I haven't been able to test it, but you should be able to accomplish this with 
a simple module that overrides $tw.config.textPrimitives.wikiLink (see 
$:/core/modules/config.js)

Best wishes

Jeremy

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> On 25 Feb 2020, at 17:52, PMario  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Zhe Lee, 
> 
> PLEASE BACKUP FIRST!!
> 
> I did create a little plugin 
> https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/speciallinks/ that you can drag and drop 
> install to your TW. 
> 
> It will add a new wiki-parser that will allow Camel_Case links. 
> 
> 
> 
> Have fun!
> mario
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Re: [tw5] Version Controlling the Wiki: Isomorphic Git

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Diego

I have also been following isomorphic-git with interest, and am intrigued by 
the idea of using it for the TW store. Many of the interesting applications of 
isomorphic-git require a proxy to access external servers, which we wouldn't 
need in the context of TW. Ultimately, I'm looking for a way to store content 
that works across the browser, Node.js and serverless cloud services and gives 
us features like revision handling and merging changes from multiple sources.

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> On 26 Feb 2020, at 12:45, Diego Mesa  wrote:
> 
> 
> I just came across this:
> 
> isomorphic-git
> https://isomorphic-git.org/en/
> A pure JavaScript implementation of git for node and browsers!
> 
> and thought it might make a great addition to the wiki! Using git as a 
> version control of the wiki itself! 
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[tw5] Re: Query: Smart Quotes?

[PMario]

Hi TT

I did just create a new Keyboard Layout DLL for Windows 10, that has „“‚‘»« 
nicely assigned to CTRL-SHIFT-1 to 6. 

It also changes the ` Backtick "dead-key" setting, to be an active key, 
which is OK for German language. 

---

I'm still in favour of a pragma, editor-button solution. ... similar to 
"fancyquotes". ... but without the en em replace

I would also want to have an option the does "undo hardcoded quotes" -> 
wikitext

-mario



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Re: [tw5] Re: (re-)Presenting: LeftBar - a menu type sidebar, on the left

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Justin,
 The Leftbar plugin author is Mat and hopefully will come with a good
solution

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 4:32 PM Justin Hurd 
wrote:

> Hello Mat, Mohammed, and Evan,
> I'm fairly new to tiddly wiki but while using this plugin, among others, I
> noticed that when a decent amount of text is entered into the left tab,
> that it does not stretch all the way down to the bottom of the window, and
> felt it was worth pointing that out and asking if any solutions could be
> offered, as well as a way to possibly move the scroll bar to the left of
> the new sidebar as well, mirroring the right sidebar.
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[tw5] Re: (re-)Presenting: LeftBar - a menu type sidebar, on the left

[Justin Hurd]

Hello Mat, Mohammed, and Evan, 
I'm fairly new to tiddly wiki but while using this plugin, among others, I 
noticed that when a decent amount of text is entered into the left tab, 
that it does not stretch all the way down to the bottom of the window, and 
felt it was worth pointing that out and asking if any solutions could be 
offered, as well as a way to possibly move the scroll bar to the left of 
the new sidebar as well, mirroring the right sidebar.

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[tw5] Version Controlling the Wiki: Isomorphic Git

[Diego Mesa]

I just came across this:

isomorphic-git
https://isomorphic-git.org/en/
A pure JavaScript implementation of git for node and browsers!

and thought it might make a great addition to the wiki! Using git as a 
version control of the wiki itself! 

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[tw5] Re: request extension to checkbox widget to support adding/deleting multiple keywords per field

['steve' via TiddlyWiki]

bimlas: 

I'll take a look - Thanks

Steve W

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[tw5] Re: Query: Smart Quotes?

[TiddlyTweeter]

PMario

Just an FYI that 
http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fmodules%2Feditor-operations%2Ftext%2Ffancyquotes.js
 that 
does the replace is nicely designed.

Even though I can't do JS I was able to edit it and change and add rules. 
Note it has a couple of issues on order. For instance it does ens before 
ems which is not ideal.

IF you decide to take the approach forward I'm happy to help on anything 
regex.

Best wishes
TT

On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 11:38:15 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:14:24 AM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> As an interim solution I'm using ... 
>> http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsk%2FFancyQuotes 
>> 
>> This is basically auto search and replace--so changes are hard-coded 
>> rather than dynamic on render.
>>
>  
> After some testing, I'm thinking, that this is the better approach. 
>
> If I'm writing English text in a German wiki, I still should respect the 
> the language specific quoting rules. 
>
> So if I copy paste "some text" from a wiki with global settings English 
> into a wiki with global settings German ... It would change the visual 
> representation of the English text in a way that imo is wrong. 
>
> If a tiddler with a \smartquotes pragma, is copied it could be done in the 
> right way. 
>
> But the "per input" option would need to be hardcoded. 
>
> So my conclusion atm is, that we should have improved tools like 
> FancyQuotes, that allow us to improve the writing experience and use the 
> rules according to the language which is used. 
>
> Using the pragma with "text like this" would still be an option, if you 
> want to keep the existing wikitext, but want "per tiddler" smart quotes. 
>
> There is *one more problem* with "rendered" smart quotes. If you copy 
> paste the rendered text, the quotes are missing.
>
> -mario
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Smart Quotes?

[PMario]

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 10:14:24 AM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:

As an interim solution I'm using ... 
> http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsk%2FFancyQuotes
> This is basically auto search and replace--so changes are hard-coded 
> rather than dynamic on render.
>
 
After some testing, I'm thinking, that this is the better approach. 

If I'm writing English text in a German wiki, I still should respect the 
the language specific quoting rules. 

So if I copy paste "some text" from a wiki with global settings English 
into a wiki with global settings German ... It would change the visual 
representation of the English text in a way that imo is wrong. 

If a tiddler with a \smartquotes pragma, is copied it could be done in the 
right way. 

But the "per input" option would need to be hardcoded. 

So my conclusion atm is, that we should have improved tools like 
FancyQuotes, that allow us to improve the writing experience and use the 
rules according to the language which is used. 

Using the pragma with "text like this" would still be an option, if you 
want to keep the existing wikitext, but want "per tiddler" smart quotes. 

There is *one more problem* with "rendered" smart quotes. If you copy paste 
the rendered text, the quotes are missing.

-mario


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[tw5] Re: Improving HTA on Windows

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao TonyM

My understanding is that, though .hta mechanism is supported on Win10 for 
legacy, it has ceased active development.

Am I right in thinking its using Explorer 9 render engine? 
If so there may be things in TW HTML that are not supported.

My question is really this. Whilst it looks attractive in some ways, I'm 
just wondering about its real mileage now?

Best wishes
TT

On Wednesday, 26 February 2020 02:08:42 UTC+1, TonyM wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
> Saving a TiddlyWiki as a HTA file on windows machines allows immediate 
> access in its own window with saving automatic.
>
> This is a quick path to adoption, as a result I would like to explore it 
> further to support ease of adoption and its use one the local computer.
>
> HTA files activate the  mshta.exe application found in C:\Windows\SysWOW64 
> this is sometimes a vector for malware but if your computer is secure you 
> should be fine.
>
>- Is this mshta.exe on a fresh install of Windows 10 (Without IE) or 
>with the new edge browser?
>- Application links want to download which reduces desktop interaction 
>(Unlike the same in TiddlyDesktop), can we fix this?
>- A Windows shortcut allows you to open the HTA maximised or minimised 
>as well.
>- The HTA application is visible in the running apps of task manager 
>and lists the open instances. I wonder if we could use this to create a 
>launch script that will not load the same hts file more than once?, to 
> stop 
>on overwitiing the other.
>- Could we introduce a user ID or lock method so these can be placed 
>on a LAN drive and force serial editing, if so it would become a tool for 
>teams?
>
> your thoughts or insight please
> Tony
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Query: Smart Quotes?

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao PMario

The sounds like a good approach. Country variants are not infinite, though 
some can use several different styles in the same text ... 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quotation_mark#Summary_table

As an interim solution I'm using ... 
http://skplugins.tiddlyspot.com/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fsk%2FFancyQuotes
This is basically auto search and replace--so changes are hard-coded rather 
than dynamic on render.

Best wishes
TT

On Monday, 24 February 2020 20:30:16 UTC+1, PMario wrote:
>
> On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 7:29:40 PM UTC+1, TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
> Quotes are variant by (1) context; (2) culture. 
>>
>
> I think (1) context is the problem. As I wrote, my FF does it right. 
> ...partially... because as an author I want to be able to control it in a 
> simple way. 
>
> eg: I'd like to have some rules
>
>- a) text editing must be simple
>- b) global setting ... for real prose text in 1 language
>- c) per tiddler ... eg: for documentation. It needs to be possible to 
>create English wikitext, that describes German quotes and vice versa
>
>  Global setting
>
> The global setting could be done in the ControlPanel : SmartQuotes 
> definition table
>  - Double quote start: x
>  - Double quote end: y
>  - Single ... 
>  - 
>
> - Per Tiddler
>
> The per-tiddler setting could be defined as a pragma \smartquotes de-DE 
> „…“ ‚…‘ »…« ›…‹
>
> The text would use, what's part of the keyboard. ... Different keyboards 
> have different possibilities! eg. my German keyborad setting doesn't offer 
> any of the above characters. So I'd use "text" as wikitext. 
>
>
> --- per input ???
>
> Not sure, how this can be implemented in a sensible way. ... I personally 
> would want an editor-toolbar button, that lists the elements from the 
> \smartquotes setting, so they can be directly used. 
>
>
> just some thoughts
> mario
>
>

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