date:20210604


Álvaro,

Very good I think the answer may lay there. 

The following tagged $:/tags/ViewToolbar proves it works
\define icon-color(color)

{{$:/core/images/list}}

\end
<$list filter="red green blue black gray">
<$macrocall $name=icon-color color=<>/>


Tones

On Thursday, 3 June 2021 at 20:35:40 UTC+10 Álvaro wrote:

> Hi Tones
>
> I think that the following CSS (in StyleSheet tiddler) could work for you 
>
> .tc-tiddler-controls button svg{fill: inherit;}
> .tc-tiddler-controls button{fill: <>;}
>
>
> El jueves, 20 de mayo de 2021 a las 21:15:26 UTC+2, TiddlyTweeter escribió:
>
>> Ciao Tones
>>
>> You may want to engage in discussion at 
>> https://github.com/morosanuae/tw-icons/discussions
>>
>> Slowly we are beginning to work through multiple issues on SVG 
>> opportunities opened up by  Morosanuae's TW Icons initiative ...
>>
>> I am myself particularly interested in understanding the of styling Icons 
>> ...
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2021-05-20 203000.jpg]
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> On Thursday, 20 May 2021 at 00:55:07 UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:
>>
>>> Heree is a simple example of how quickly coloring a button is confounded
>>>
>>> \define colour() #f00
>>> <$button>
>>> addsuffix[;]] 
>>> }}}>{{$:/core/images/spiral}}
>>> 
>>>
>>> in a tiddler tagged $:/tags/ViewToolbar all custom color is lost.
>>>
>>> Tones
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Fun with InfoMechanism

Mike,

It all depends on what you want to do. All the permaview is the generation 
of a link to open with the current tiddlers in the story view. There are 
other ways to achieve the same thing.

I agree the url should be available somewhere, but I don't think you 
necessarily need it to do what you are thinking.

For example a filter can be passed in the url and that folder could access 
another tiddlers "list" field or text contents with a list of tiddlers. 
Then add to that startup actions and you can do almost anything. Perhaps 
return to the specific thing or a list of things you want to occur and we 
can consider the various ways to do it.

Remember by definition a URL with parameters/permaview is in a sense a 
fixed bookmark to open the wiki in a particular state.

Regards
Tones

On Saturday, 5 June 2021 at 10:37:41 UTC+10 mwik...@gmail.com wrote:

> Yes. That's what I had mentioned as a potential solution at the bottom but 
> I wonder if $/:Storylist will always be available before the StartupAction 
> triggers.
>
> Also, Storylist is not static so you would have to have your action take a 
> snapshot into another tiddler if you wanted to preserve that data. I was 
> just wondering why it was stripped from the info.
>
> /Mike
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 19:55 TW Tones  wrote:
>
>> Mike,
>>
>> I thought I had seen the full user and permalink entries before but cant 
>> now. However by definition the permalink dose open the named tiddlers, so 
>> when using a permalink to access a wiki the $:/StoryList list field 
>> contains the opened tiddlers. That is perhaps you can retrieve them from 
>> there?
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Saturday, 5 June 2021 at 02:41:51 UTC+10 mwik...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've been looking into the InfoMechanism part of TiddlyWiki as a means 
>>> of reading variables passed in via URL (for autofilling fields, presetting 
>>> filters/reports, mode-setting etc.)
>>>
>>> e.g.
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/?variable=something_variable="something 
>>> else"#InfoMechanism:$:/info/url/search
>>>  will render as:
>>>
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/?variable=something_variable=%22something%20else%22#InfoMechanism:$:/info/url/search
>>>
>>> Is a legit URL that shows (via $:/info/url/search) what can be passed 
>>> in. 
>>>
>>> I think that you can tag a tiddler with $:/tags/StartupAction so that 
>>> it triggers on TiddlyWiki startup to be able to take other actions based 
>>> using the passed variables ... With a little filter-parsing (TBD), this 
>>> could be rendered as a index tiddler or poked into variables/fields/tags.
>>>
>>> Question(s):  
>>> Neither $:/info/url/full nor $:/info/url/search show the 
>>> Permaview/Permalink. Is this intentional? Other than reading the list field 
>>> in the $:/StoryList (which will change as you open things up and I am not 
>>> yet sure if it is available before the StartupActions), is there somewhere 
>>> where the initial Permaview/link information is accessible?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> /Mike
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Fun with InfoMechanism

2021-06-04 Thread Michael Wiktowy

Yes. That's what I had mentioned as a potential solution at the bottom but
I wonder if $/:Storylist will always be available before the StartupAction
triggers.

Also, Storylist is not static so you would have to have your action take a
snapshot into another tiddler if you wanted to preserve that data. I was
just wondering why it was stripped from the info.

/Mike

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021, 19:55 TW Tones  wrote:

> Mike,
>
> I thought I had seen the full user and permalink entries before but cant
> now. However by definition the permalink dose open the named tiddlers, so
> when using a permalink to access a wiki the $:/StoryList list field
> contains the opened tiddlers. That is perhaps you can retrieve them from
> there?
>
> Tones
>
> On Saturday, 5 June 2021 at 02:41:51 UTC+10 mwik...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've been looking into the InfoMechanism part of TiddlyWiki as a means of
>> reading variables passed in via URL (for autofilling fields, presetting
>> filters/reports, mode-setting etc.)
>>
>> e.g.
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/?variable=something_variable="something
>> else"#InfoMechanism:$:/info/url/search
>>  will render as:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/?variable=something_variable=%22something%20else%22#InfoMechanism:$:/info/url/search
>>
>> Is a legit URL that shows (via $:/info/url/search) what can be passed in.
>>
>> I think that you can tag a tiddler with $:/tags/StartupAction so that it
>> triggers on TiddlyWiki startup to be able to take other actions based using
>> the passed variables ... With a little filter-parsing (TBD), this could be
>> rendered as a index tiddler or poked into variables/fields/tags.
>>
>> Question(s):
>> Neither $:/info/url/full nor $:/info/url/search show the
>> Permaview/Permalink. Is this intentional? Other than reading the list field
>> in the $:/StoryList (which will change as you open things up and I am not
>> yet sure if it is available before the StartupActions), is there somewhere
>> where the initial Permaview/link information is accessible?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> /Mike
>>
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Re: [tw5] Printing A Tiddler

Steph,
If you rely on the view template to display tiddlers it may not be 
displayed when viewing the tiddler in a new window, which only wikifies the 
text field. 

I have made but not formally published open in window for view and edit in 
new window. I have attached it

Have a look inside and you may find what you are looking for.

I have to start packing to move house :) :(

Tones
On Saturday, 5 June 2021 at 00:37:36 UTC+10 steph@gmail.com wrote:

> For me, the "Toolbar > More > Open tiddler in new window" opens a new 
> window that is completely blank. I'm hoping the PrintRiver add-on, or some 
> other add-on solution, will be developed by one of this kind souls in this 
> community!
>
> Steph
>
> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 9:10:38 AM UTC-4 jonligh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Mat
>>
>> "Toolbar > More > Open tiddler in new window"
>>
>> For me that results in a tiddler in a new window *but* minus the tiddler 
>> title which I usually want.
>>
>> I did not pursue it since I had the other option "close all other 
>> tiddlers" to hand - following path of least resistance !
>>
>> A quick check on the underlying HTML in the new window suggests that the 
>> title is absent not merely "CSS-non-displayed" - its simply not there - 
>> intention? bug? limitation? I don't know. 
>>
>> Just flagging this difference in behaviour for interested parties. 
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 1 June 2021 at 22:50:51 UTC+1 Mat wrote:
>>
>>> Tip:
>>>
>>> Toolbar > More > Open tiddler in new window
>>> Right click > Print
>>>
>>> That said, I wish there was a direct "print this tiddler" button in the 
>>> tiddler toolbar.
>>>
>>> <:-)
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:20:34 PM UTC+2 da...@bakins-bits.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I also print one or more specific tiddlers this way. 

 A request:  sounds like you know what you're doing w.r.t. CSS and TW.  
 Would you mind making your full custom CSS available as an example (for 
 me)?

 -- David 

 On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 05:15 Jon Light  wrote:

>
> In response to a slight offtopic on the thread "Issue with PrintRiver 
> plugin" I thought it was worth mentioning other methods of printing 
> Tiddlers.
>
> I took a fairly simple approach as follows.
>
>- I simply find the tiddler of interest and use the existing Tool 
>item PRINT.
>- This prints the whole page which equates to the story river 
>- I therefore use the pull down from the Tiddler menu "Close 
>Others" now I have only one tiddler in the Story River - then I print 
> - 
>very quick and fuss free as long as you like the existing defaults on 
> what 
>actually gets printed.
>
> Its an easy sequence. 
>
> Subsequent "fussy" refinements
>
> I preferred to print tags with tiddler so my custom CSS contains 
> @media statements for printer specific CSS which include making tags in 
> the 
> tiddler visible for the print.
>
> I also like to use CSS floats to place text to one side of the other 
> of images, the problem is that page breaks and images are difficult when 
> printing. 
>
> The browser may make the decision to move an image to the next side of 
> paper but still allows the floated text that should appear alongside the 
> image to appear instead on the previous side - kind of ignoring that the 
> image got bumped to the next page. 
>
> I added extra CSS to my Custom CSS tiddler for this situation 
>
> @media print { blockquote.CLEARP { page-break-after: always; } } 
> @media screen { blockquote.CLEARP { clear: both; display:block; 
> border: 0px solid #ddd; }}
>
> This means when I preview the print out I can add blockquotes with 
> class CLEARP to force a new page for the printed version. - crude but it 
> works ok, I only use floats in tiddler articles over which I have 
> lavished 
> a bit of Tender Loving Care so I am happy to spend the time preparing the 
> print in these cases. 
>
> I must revisit the PrintRiver Plugin sometime - I parted company with 
> it because the problems I experienced with reveal before a kind soul on 
> this forum suggested I use the detail tag.
>
>
>
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[tw5] Re: Fun with InfoMechanism

Mike,

I thought I had seen the full user and permalink entries before but cant 
now. However by definition the permalink dose open the named tiddlers, so 
when using a permalink to access a wiki the $:/StoryList list field 
contains the opened tiddlers. That is perhaps you can retrieve them from 
there?

Tones

On Saturday, 5 June 2021 at 02:41:51 UTC+10 mwik...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've been looking into the InfoMechanism part of TiddlyWiki as a means of 
> reading variables passed in via URL (for autofilling fields, presetting 
> filters/reports, mode-setting etc.)
>
> e.g.
> https://tiddlywiki.com/?variable=something_variable="something 
> else"#InfoMechanism:$:/info/url/search
>  will render as:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/?variable=something_variable=%22something%20else%22#InfoMechanism:$:/info/url/search
>
> Is a legit URL that shows (via $:/info/url/search) what can be passed in. 
>
> I think that you can tag a tiddler with $:/tags/StartupAction so that it 
> triggers on TiddlyWiki startup to be able to take other actions based using 
> the passed variables ... With a little filter-parsing (TBD), this could be 
> rendered as a index tiddler or poked into variables/fields/tags.
>
> Question(s):  
> Neither $:/info/url/full nor $:/info/url/search show the 
> Permaview/Permalink. Is this intentional? Other than reading the list field 
> in the $:/StoryList (which will change as you open things up and I am not 
> yet sure if it is available before the StartupActions), is there somewhere 
> where the initial Permaview/link information is accessible?
>
> Thanks,
> /Mike
>

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[tw5] Re: Tiddlywiki Can Create Native Presentations in Microsoft PowerPoint, Apple Keynote, and other applications

Hi, 
The biggest problem I see with libraries like this is, that they only work 
in 1 direction. So if you edit your document in powerpoint, you can't 
easily convert it back to TW. 
-m

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[tw5] Re: Call stack error in tiddly wiki

Hi, 
This seems like you did something like this: 

Tiddler A tagged with B, Tiddler B tagged with A .. That's a circular 
relation, which can cause this. ... BUT it shouldn't. There is some 
protection code in the TOC macro. ... 
So did you mess with the TOC macro, or which macro did you use?
-mario

On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 3:47:14 AM UTC+2 Java Development wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I come across a call stack exceeded error in tiddly wiki. is it got fixed 
> the latest version ?
>
> One surprising thing is - for one text added, i saw a huge text displayed 
> in the window...
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> Thans
>

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[tw5] Re: Unable to save or edit the file...Blocked with tiddly wiki with updates

Hi,
That's not enough information. Please tell us, what you did?
-mario

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[tw5] Simple authentication options for Bob

2021-06-04 Thread Ed Heil


I just got Bob working on a digital ocean droplet behind an nginx proxy 
(yay!) and I would like some kind of authentication going on.  The 
"credentials" system which works with basic tiddlywiki would be great.   
However, when I run it with something like:

node ./tiddlywiki.js Wikis/BobWiki/ --wsserver credentials=creds.csv 
"readers=(anon)" "writers=(authenticated)"

the credentials don't seem to have any effect at all.  Anyone can still 
edit it.

are those even supposed to work with Bob?

if not, are there any other simple actions?

I tried just putting Basic Auth on in my nginx config, but that seemed to 
break Bob completely.




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[tw5] Re: radio fields /checkboxes slections are not saved

2021-06-04 Thread paulgilbert2000

it was indeed 

thanks again Eric for all your help
On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 4:53:39 AM UTC+2 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 7:18:02 PM UTC-7 mohamed...@hotmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> well i do find the filed changes after saving , but they dont reflect in 
>> the actual check box or radio button, meaning that while  the value is in 
>> the field , the selection i previously made is not showing in the check box 
>> or radio button, i hope this makes sense
>>
>
> aha!  I just noticed, you've used CAPITAL letters for the field references 
> in the $select, $radio and $checkbox widgets.  What is happening is that 
> the fields are initially being stored in the tiddler as upper case, so 
> things seem to be working at first... but then when the file is saved, the 
> stored tiddler fieldnames are automatically converted to lower case.  Then, 
> when you reload, those tiddler fieldnames no longer match the references in 
> the $select, $radio and $checkbox widgets.
>
> As described in the first line of https://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlerFields:
> TiddlerFields are name:value pairs that make up a tiddler 
> . Field names must be *lowercase 
> letters*, digits or the characters - (dash), _ (underscore) 
> and . (period).
>
> So... to fix your problem, just change your references to lower case.
>
> -e
>

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Re: [tw5] List values and add/remove from field

On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 9:44 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi Mohammad,
>
> That lists the title of the tiddlers that have the field warning. It
> should list all unique values out of all fields warning.
>

Right! So it works correctly! Now you need to populate them and display
them!
The simplest is using a macro to populate, then wikify and use enlist!

This way:
First: it finds all tiddlers with the field warning
Next: The macro populate all values in warning field of those tiddlers
Last: A wikify gets the values and an enlist will show them while removing
duplicates






>
> Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 18:03:26 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>
>> It has nothing to do with tags, just search in "all fields warning" and
>>> add or remove the value in field warning of the current tiddler.
>>
>>
>> Then you need to use
>>
>> [all[tiddlers]has:field[warning]]
>>
>>
>> Look at "has operator" on tiddlywiki.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 7:20 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It has nothing to do with tags, just search in "all fields warning" and
>>> add or remove the value in field warning of the current tiddler.
>>>
>>>
>>> Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 15:05:00 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>>>
 <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>

 means list all Non system tags!

   <$list filter="[tags[]]" variable=warning-value>

   means list all  tags including systems tags!
 <$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
 <]" search:"search:title">>
 

 create a list search lets you to search in the warning field of
 current tiddler

 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:35 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Thanks Mohammad,
> what you have done is working. Thank you so much!
>
> Only it does not display the values from the "warning" fields.
>
> By replacing this code:
> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
> with this:
> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>
> I at least get it working.
>
>
> What I mean by: [tags:warning[]]?
> I honestly have no idea. I've been working on this piece of code for a
> while and couldn't figure it out. Somehow that got in there and it works.
>
> Maybe you have another suggestion?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 13:29:28 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>
>> This second code also search in field warning using Shiraz list-search
>>
>> <$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
>> <]" search:"search:title">>
>> 
>>
>> <$count filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" />
>>
>> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
>>
>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-warning btn-mini" >
>>
>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="[]" />
>> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
>> 
>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-info btn-mini" >
>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="-[]" />
>> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
>> 
>> <$text text=<>/>
>> 
>>
>> I modified your filter, as I think yours is not correct!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> To avoid duplications of values in fields warning;
>>> list all unique values from the warning field of all tiddlers with 2
>>> buttons: Add and Remove. (Add and remove from $(currentTiddler)$ )
>>>
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>>>
>>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
>>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
>>> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
>>> 
>>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
>>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
>>> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) When the value is added to the field, the square brackets are
>>> missing. How do I ensure that the value is noted between square 
>>> brackets?
>>>
>>> 2) I am unable to remove the value from the field.
>>> $subfilter="-123" is working. But how do I get it to work referring
>>> to <>?
>>>
>>> 3) It would be totally awesome if I had a search function. By
>>> replacing <$list filter with;
>>>
>>> <>> warning">>
>>>
>>> Which works fine on its own but I can't get it implemented.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can somebody please help me out?
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Re: [tw5] List values and add/remove from field

Hi Mohammad,

That lists the title of the tiddlers that have the field warning. It should 
list all unique values out of all fields warning.

Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 18:03:26 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:

> It has nothing to do with tags, just search in "all fields warning" and 
>> add or remove the value in field warning of the current tiddler.
>
>
> Then you need to use 
>
> [all[tiddlers]has:field[warning]]
>
>
> Look at "has operator" on tiddlywiki.com
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 7:20 PM vinvi...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> It has nothing to do with tags, just search in "all fields warning" and 
>> add or remove the value in field warning of the current tiddler.
>>
>>
>> Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 15:05:00 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>>
>>> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
>>>
>>> means list all Non system tags!
>>>
>>>   <$list filter="[tags[]]" variable=warning-value>
>>>
>>>   means list all  tags including systems tags!
>>> <$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
>>> <]" search:"search:title">>
>>> 
>>>
>>> create a list search lets you to search in the warning field of current 
>>> tiddler
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:35 PM vinvi...@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Mohammad, 
 what you have done is working. Thank you so much!

 Only it does not display the values from the "warning" fields.

 By replacing this code:
 <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
 with this:
 <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>

 I at least get it working.


 What I mean by: [tags:warning[]]?
 I honestly have no idea. I've been working on this piece of code for a 
 while and couldn't figure it out. Somehow that got in there and it works.

 Maybe you have another suggestion?

 Thank you,

 Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 13:29:28 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:

> This second code also search in field warning using Shiraz list-search
>
> <$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
> <]" search:"search:title">>
> 
>
> <$count filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" />
>
> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
>
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-warning btn-mini" >
>
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="[]" />
> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
> 
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-info btn-mini" >
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="-[]" />
> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
> 
> <$text text=<>/>
> 
>
> I modified your filter, as I think yours is not correct!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM vinvi...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> To avoid duplications of values in fields warning;
>> list all unique values from the warning field of all tiddlers with 2 
>> buttons: Add and Remove. (Add and remove from $(currentTiddler)$ )
>>
>>
>> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>>
>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
>> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
>> 
>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
>> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
>> 
>> <>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 1) When the value is added to the field, the square brackets are 
>> missing. How do I ensure that the value is noted between square brackets?
>>
>> 2) I am unable to remove the value from the field. 
>> $subfilter="-123" is working. But how do I get it to work referring 
>> to <>?
>>
>> 3) It would be totally awesome if I had a search function. By 
>> replacing <$list filter with;
>>
>> <> warning">>
>>
>> Which works fine on its own but I can't get it implemented.
>>
>>
>> Can somebody please help me out?
>>
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[tw5] Re: Create tiddler with tags from variable

2021-06-04 Thread Ed Heil

Mat's initial suggestion worked great.  I didn't need this to appear 
everywhere, or in edit mode.  Just in a certain class of tiddlers which are 
already being displayed through a special template (which is where this 
button will appear).

Thanks, everyone!

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[tw5] Fun with InfoMechanism

2021-06-04 Thread Michael Wiktowy

Hi,

I've been looking into the InfoMechanism part of TiddlyWiki as a means of
reading variables passed in via URL (for autofilling fields, presetting
filters/reports, mode-setting etc.)

e.g.
https://tiddlywiki.com/?variable=something_variable="something
else"#InfoMechanism:$:/info/url/search
will render as:
https://tiddlywiki.com/?variable=something_variable=%22something%20else%22#InfoMechanism:$:/info/url/search

Is a legit URL that shows (via $:/info/url/search) what can be passed in.

I think that you can tag a tiddler with $:/tags/StartupAction so that it
triggers on TiddlyWiki startup to be able to take other actions based using
the passed variables ... With a little filter-parsing (TBD), this could be
rendered as a index tiddler or poked into variables/fields/tags.

Question(s):
Neither $:/info/url/full nor $:/info/url/search show the
Permaview/Permalink. Is this intentional? Other than reading the list field
in the $:/StoryList (which will change as you open things up and I am not
yet sure if it is available before the StartupActions), is there somewhere
where the initial Permaview/link information is accessible?

Thanks,
/Mike

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Re: [tw5] List values and add/remove from field

>
> It has nothing to do with tags, just search in "all fields warning" and
> add or remove the value in field warning of the current tiddler.


Then you need to use

[all[tiddlers]has:field[warning]]


Look at "has operator" on tiddlywiki.com



Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 7:20 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

>
> It has nothing to do with tags, just search in "all fields warning" and
> add or remove the value in field warning of the current tiddler.
>
>
> Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 15:05:00 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>
>> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
>>
>> means list all Non system tags!
>>
>>   <$list filter="[tags[]]" variable=warning-value>
>>
>>   means list all  tags including systems tags!
>> <$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
>> <]" search:"search:title">>
>> 
>>
>> create a list search lets you to search in the warning field of current
>> tiddler
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:35 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Mohammad,
>>> what you have done is working. Thank you so much!
>>>
>>> Only it does not display the values from the "warning" fields.
>>>
>>> By replacing this code:
>>> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
>>> with this:
>>> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>>>
>>> I at least get it working.
>>>
>>>
>>> What I mean by: [tags:warning[]]?
>>> I honestly have no idea. I've been working on this piece of code for a
>>> while and couldn't figure it out. Somehow that got in there and it works.
>>>
>>> Maybe you have another suggestion?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 13:29:28 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>>>
 This second code also search in field warning using Shiraz list-search

 <$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
 <]" search:"search:title">>
 

 <$count filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" />

 <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>

 <$button type="button" class="btn btn-warning btn-mini" >

 <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="[]" />
 {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
 
 <$button type="button" class="btn btn-info btn-mini" >
 <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="-[]" />
 {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
 
 <$text text=<>/>
 

 I modified your filter, as I think yours is not correct!


 Best wishes
 Mohammad


 On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Hello,
>
> To avoid duplications of values in fields warning;
> list all unique values from the warning field of all tiddlers with 2
> buttons: Add and Remove. (Add and remove from $(currentTiddler)$ )
>
>
> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
> 
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
> 
> <>
> 
>
>
> 1) When the value is added to the field, the square brackets are
> missing. How do I ensure that the value is noted between square brackets?
>
> 2) I am unable to remove the value from the field.
> $subfilter="-123" is working. But how do I get it to work referring to
> <>?
>
> 3) It would be totally awesome if I had a search function. By
> replacing <$list filter with;
>
> < warning">>
>
> Which works fine on its own but I can't get it implemented.
>
>
> Can somebody please help me out?
>
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[tw5] Re: Issue with PrintRiver plugin

2021-06-04 Thread BurningTreeC

Hi there, sorry that I've seen this post so late

I'll definitively update the PrintRiver plugin and keep it up to date in 
the future

I need some time for that, but maybe the next week or the week after it 
could be ready

Best wishes, BTC

steph@gmail.com schrieb am Freitag, 4. Juni 2021 um 16:38:34 UTC+2:

> I'd like t bump this too -- PrintRiver looked like a great plugin solution 
> to an important problem! 
>
> On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 10:34:04 PM UTC-4 R² wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Bumping this up as I have the same issue as S². Has anyone found a way 
>> forward or knows how to contact BurningTreeC (as he is still contributing 
>> to TiddlyWiki according to his Github page). The plugin works fine on 
>> http://printriver.tiddlyspot.com/, which runs on TW 5.1.17. What could 
>> have broken it? 
>>
>> Best,
>> R²
>>
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Re: [tw5] List values and add/remove from field


It has nothing to do with tags, just search in "all fields warning" and add 
or remove the value in field warning of the current tiddler.


Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 15:05:00 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:

> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
>
> means list all Non system tags!
>
>   <$list filter="[tags[]]" variable=warning-value>
>
>   means list all  tags including systems tags!
> <$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
> <]" search:"search:title">>
> 
>
> create a list search lets you to search in the warning field of current 
> tiddler
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:35 PM vinvi...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Mohammad, 
>> what you have done is working. Thank you so much!
>>
>> Only it does not display the values from the "warning" fields.
>>
>> By replacing this code:
>> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
>> with this:
>> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>>
>> I at least get it working.
>>
>>
>> What I mean by: [tags:warning[]]?
>> I honestly have no idea. I've been working on this piece of code for a 
>> while and couldn't figure it out. Somehow that got in there and it works.
>>
>> Maybe you have another suggestion?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 13:29:28 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>>
>>> This second code also search in field warning using Shiraz list-search
>>>
>>> <$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
>>> <]" search:"search:title">>
>>> 
>>>
>>> <$count filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" />
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
>>>
>>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-warning btn-mini" >
>>>
>>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="[]" />
>>> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
>>> 
>>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-info btn-mini" >
>>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="-[]" />
>>> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
>>> 
>>> <$text text=<>/>
>>> 
>>>
>>> I modified your filter, as I think yours is not correct!
>>>
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> Mohammad
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM vinvi...@gmail.com  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 To avoid duplications of values in fields warning;
 list all unique values from the warning field of all tiddlers with 2 
 buttons: Add and Remove. (Add and remove from $(currentTiddler)$ )


 <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>

 <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
 <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
 {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
 
 <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
 <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
 {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
 
 <>
 


 1) When the value is added to the field, the square brackets are 
 missing. How do I ensure that the value is noted between square brackets?

 2) I am unable to remove the value from the field. 
 $subfilter="-123" is working. But how do I get it to work referring to 
 <>?

 3) It would be totally awesome if I had a search function. By replacing 
 <$list filter with;

 <>>> warning">>

 Which works fine on its own but I can't get it implemented.


 Can somebody please help me out?

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[tw5] Re: Issue with PrintRiver plugin

2021-06-04 Thread Steph Butera

I'd like t bump this too -- PrintRiver looked like a great plugin solution 
to an important problem! 

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 10:34:04 PM UTC-4 R² wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Bumping this up as I have the same issue as S². Has anyone found a way 
> forward or knows how to contact BurningTreeC (as he is still contributing 
> to TiddlyWiki according to his Github page). The plugin works fine on 
> http://printriver.tiddlyspot.com/, which runs on TW 5.1.17. What could 
> have broken it? 
>
> Best,
> R²
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Re: [tw5] Printing A Tiddler

2021-06-04 Thread Steph Butera

 For me, the "Toolbar > More > Open tiddler in new window" opens a new 
window that is completely blank. I'm hoping the PrintRiver add-on, or some 
other add-on solution, will be developed by one of this kind souls in this 
community!

Steph

On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 9:10:38 AM UTC-4 jonligh...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi Mat
>
> "Toolbar > More > Open tiddler in new window"
>
> For me that results in a tiddler in a new window *but* minus the tiddler 
> title which I usually want.
>
> I did not pursue it since I had the other option "close all other 
> tiddlers" to hand - following path of least resistance !
>
> A quick check on the underlying HTML in the new window suggests that the 
> title is absent not merely "CSS-non-displayed" - its simply not there - 
> intention? bug? limitation? I don't know. 
>
> Just flagging this difference in behaviour for interested parties. 
>
> Jon
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 1 June 2021 at 22:50:51 UTC+1 Mat wrote:
>
>> Tip:
>>
>> Toolbar > More > Open tiddler in new window
>> Right click > Print
>>
>> That said, I wish there was a direct "print this tiddler" button in the 
>> tiddler toolbar.
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>> On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 9:20:34 PM UTC+2 da...@bakins-bits.com wrote:
>>
>>> I also print one or more specific tiddlers this way. 
>>>
>>> A request:  sounds like you know what you're doing w.r.t. CSS and TW.  
>>> Would you mind making your full custom CSS available as an example (for me)?
>>>
>>> -- David 
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 1, 2021, 05:15 Jon Light  wrote:
>>>

 In response to a slight offtopic on the thread "Issue with PrintRiver 
 plugin" I thought it was worth mentioning other methods of printing 
 Tiddlers.

 I took a fairly simple approach as follows.

- I simply find the tiddler of interest and use the existing Tool 
item PRINT.
- This prints the whole page which equates to the story river 
- I therefore use the pull down from the Tiddler menu "Close 
Others" now I have only one tiddler in the Story River - then I print - 
very quick and fuss free as long as you like the existing defaults on 
 what 
actually gets printed.

 Its an easy sequence. 

 Subsequent "fussy" refinements

 I preferred to print tags with tiddler so my custom CSS contains @media 
 statements for printer specific CSS which include making tags in the 
 tiddler visible for the print.

 I also like to use CSS floats to place text to one side of the other of 
 images, the problem is that page breaks and images are difficult when 
 printing. 

 The browser may make the decision to move an image to the next side of 
 paper but still allows the floated text that should appear alongside the 
 image to appear instead on the previous side - kind of ignoring that the 
 image got bumped to the next page. 

 I added extra CSS to my Custom CSS tiddler for this situation 

 @media print { blockquote.CLEARP { page-break-after: always; } } 
 @media screen { blockquote.CLEARP { clear: both; display:block; border: 
 0px solid #ddd; }}

 This means when I preview the print out I can add blockquotes with 
 class CLEARP to force a new page for the printed version. - crude but it 
 works ok, I only use floats in tiddler articles over which I have lavished 
 a bit of Tender Loving Care so I am happy to spend the time preparing the 
 print in these cases. 

 I must revisit the PrintRiver Plugin sometime - I parted company with 
 it because the problems I experienced with reveal before a kind soul on 
 this forum suggested I use the detail tag.

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[tw5] Re: Create tiddler with tags from variable

2021-06-04 Thread Mat

iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:

> 1) Why am I tagging the Tiddler that has the code with /tags/EditTemplate 
> and not core/ui/EditTemplate as the others are listed when I'm reordering 
> the tags?
>

The $:/tags/EditTemplate is the common tag for all edittemplates. When you 
click that tag you see all tiddlers tagged such. They are typically 
tiddlers titled $:/core/ui/something because they are part of the core TW 
plugin. Your tiddler is not part of the core plugin so you can call it 
whatever you want (also with or without a prefixing $:/ )

> 2) I originally tried pasting Mat's code into the custom edit area of 
> Stroll, which also uses the /tags/EditTemplate tag but the define line 
> wouldn't activate. Given that both tiddlers follow the same instructions is 
> there a reason why one worked and one didn't? The only difference was the 
> existence of two other tags and some instructions already in the body of 
> the tiddler.
>

All pragmas, i.e all commands with a prefixing \ character, must be grouped 
at top of tiddler. If you study some system tiddlers, you'll understand 
what is meant with this. That could be one reason why your attempt didn't 
work. Another thing is that e.g a \define can be a single row or it is a 
multirow that ends with an \end marker. Again, check out some macros or 
similar and you'll get the idea.

> 3) Is there a specific place on the TiddlyWiki website where the above 
> information is described? When I was attempting to troubleshoot the \define 
> line not working I was having a heck of a time trying to follow what was 
> written so I'm curious if I was looking in the wrong place.
>

Yes, again, all \ prefixed stuff are called pragmas. You are specifically 
concerned with macros here, i.e the thingies that are created with a 
\define pragma (and that often end with  \end )

As for getting the original name of a tiddler when you're in edit mode, I 
thought there should be some filter op for this (is[draft]) but maybe I'm 
wrong. Anyway, you should be able to do this to get the non-draft title 
when you're in the draft: 

\define t() [[$(nondraft)$]] OhterTAG

<$vars nondraft={{{ [removeprefix[Draft of 
']removesuffix[']] }}} >
<$button><$action-createtiddler $basetitle="MyBase" tags=<>/> x 

<:-)

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[tw5] Re: Is there a way to automatically save changes on TiddlyWiki?

2021-06-04 Thread Charlie Veniot

Oh, no worries.  I've been busy lately and not paying much attention to the 
conversations here.

I store all of my TiddlyWiki instances in Google Drive.  (Aside:  I work on 
the files there and when a file is ready for me to share with the world, if 
I share that file with the world, I then copy the whole TiddlyWiki to a 
host site on the web ... so treating Google Drive as my "development" area, 
and neocities as my "production" / publishing area/)

Any HTML file (like TiddlyWiki files) in Google Drive, when double-clicked, 
will be opened up like a text file.  Yuck.

To open a TiddlyWiki  file properly, you need the Google Drive add-on 
called TiddlyDrive.

Easy way to install the add-on:

   - double-click on a TiddlyWiki file in Google Drive
   - when it opens in "text" mode (i.e. you are seeing TiddlyWiki's raw 
   HTML), you'll see a "open with" option just above the viewed HTML; use that 
   to find/choose TiddlyDrive

On Tuesday, June 1, 2021 at 12:02:19 AM UTC-3 arlandri...@gmail.com wrote:

> Really sorry for my late reply.
> @cj.v Yes, basically. I'd like also to find a way to storage my tiddlywiki 
> in a file hosting service (like Google Drive or Dropbox), but considering 
> that it is a html it is written everywhere that I can't copy and past it 
> there. How did you do?
>
> @mario even if I copy and paste it on Node.js, I don't know what to do 
> next...
>
> Il giorno giovedì 13 maggio 2021 alle 20:47:48 UTC+9 cj.v...@gmail.com ha 
> scritto:
>
>> Silly question:  are you asking for save to happen for every key press 
>> while you are editing a tiddler ?
>>
>> On Thursday, May 13, 2021 at 6:54:04 AM UTC-3 arlandri...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you everybody.
>>>
>>> @Mario, I had already the autosave option on, but I would prefer 
>>> something that saves every changes because sometimes I see that the 
>>> contenent of my tiddler disappeared and considering that it is a precious 
>>> work I want to be safe.
>>> Then I tried to follow the instructions written in this page for Node.js 
>>> https://github.com/frankrousseau/TiddlyWiki 
>>> but then if I try to install tiddlywiki it says "npm should be run 
>>> outside of the Node.js REPL, in your normal shell".
>>> Actually I have already created a TiddlyWiki file and I don't know how 
>>> to import it to Node.js.
>>>
>>> For the other user: how did you manage to copy a html file to google 
>>> drive? If I try to do it, it opens a google docs full of codes .
>>> Il giorno martedì 11 maggio 2021 alle 22:04:11 UTC+9 PMario ha scritto:
>>>
 Hi,
 On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 1:07:01 PM UTC+2 arlandri...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 I downloaded the webextension timimi and it didn't work.

 TiddlyWiki has an "autosave" option that can be found at: *$:/ControlPanel 
 : Saving : General : Save 
 Changes Automatically* which is set to ON by default. 
 So as soon as you click "Done" on a tiddler, that is edited, you will 
 save the whole wiki. If backup settings are done right, you should be safe!

> I downloaded note.js (It was highly recommended) and it doesn't work.
>

 If the node server runs, basically every keystroke is sent back to the 
 server. Also if you open a tiddler in edit mode a "Draft of XXX" tiddler 
 will be created. So your original tiddler isn't affected by any change you 
 make. ... 

 This gives us the possibility to "Cancel" any changes. .. We just throw 
 away the "Draft of" tiddler and leave the orginal tiddler in tact.

 If you click done, the original tiddler will be written and then the 
 "Draft of" will be deleted. .. 

 --

 The new TW UI for a node-js version has an option at the "cloud" icon: 
 "Save snapshot" ... 

 [image: save-snapshot.gif]

 So if you think you are finished with something important, you can make 
 a snapshot as an additional backup. 

 hope that helps
 -mario

>>>

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Re: [tw5] List values and add/remove from field

<$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>

means list all Non system tags!

  <$list filter="[tags[]]" variable=warning-value>

  means list all  tags including systems tags!
<$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
<]" search:"search:title">>


create a list search lets you to search in the warning field of current
tiddler

Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:35 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thanks Mohammad,
> what you have done is working. Thank you so much!
>
> Only it does not display the values from the "warning" fields.
>
> By replacing this code:
> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
> with this:
> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>
> I at least get it working.
>
>
> What I mean by: [tags:warning[]]?
> I honestly have no idea. I've been working on this piece of code for a
> while and couldn't figure it out. Somehow that got in there and it works.
>
> Maybe you have another suggestion?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 13:29:28 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:
>
>> This second code also search in field warning using Shiraz list-search
>>
>> <$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
>> <]" search:"search:title">>
>> 
>>
>> <$count filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" />
>>
>> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
>>
>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-warning btn-mini" >
>>
>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="[]" />
>> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
>> 
>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-info btn-mini" >
>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="-[]" />
>> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
>> 
>> <$text text=<>/>
>> 
>>
>> I modified your filter, as I think yours is not correct!
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> To avoid duplications of values in fields warning;
>>> list all unique values from the warning field of all tiddlers with 2
>>> buttons: Add and Remove. (Add and remove from $(currentTiddler)$ )
>>>
>>>
>>> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>>>
>>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
>>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
>>> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
>>> 
>>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
>>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
>>> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 1) When the value is added to the field, the square brackets are
>>> missing. How do I ensure that the value is noted between square brackets?
>>>
>>> 2) I am unable to remove the value from the field.
>>> $subfilter="-123" is working. But how do I get it to work referring to
>>> <>?
>>>
>>> 3) It would be totally awesome if I had a search function. By replacing
>>> <$list filter with;
>>>
>>> <>> warning">>
>>>
>>> Which works fine on its own but I can't get it implemented.
>>>
>>>
>>> Can somebody please help me out?
>>>
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[tw5] Re: TiddlyWorldBuilder vs TiddlyRoam

2021-06-04 Thread David Gifford

There is no right answer, there is only the way that feels right to you and 
gives you a fast, non-tedious, enjoyable workflow based on how your mind 
works, which may be different from mine. The more you experiment, the more 
options you will find.

The "usual" way in TiddlyWiki is tagging a tiddler with its parent topics 
or categories. So City A might be tagged "Cities" and "Country A". Then you 
write your definition and description and if you see potential links, you 
turn them into actual links, or use a tool like Freelinks to have them be 
links without them being links. Remember that Freelinks are not 
bi-directional. So if you mention City A in tiddler of Country A, the 
reference to City A will show as a link. But in the City A tiddler, nothing 
will change, so there will be no reference to Country A.

I don't tend to write link-rich Wikipedia types of tiddlers, so I can't 
help you too much there. My current system for notetaking from reading is: 
Create a tiddler for the book or source. Paste the title into a "currently 
reading" window. Read. Take a note in the relevant topic. Use an editor 
toolbar button to paste the currently reading tiddler as the source of the 
note. Add page number. Read and repeat. Fantastic workflow for that. But 
you may be doing something else that requires something totally different.

HTH



On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 10:19:34 PM UTC-5 iamdar...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thank you so much for taking the time to reply and providing so much 
> feedback! It has been very helpful.
>
> If I may ask two follow-up questions:
>
> 1)  I do seem to be driving for a Wikipedia level of thoroughness 
> regarding the content, at least with this world building concept. At the 
> same time I'm still having trouble finding a way to collect my thoughts on 
> other topics in general. Do you feel it is safe to say that if I'm taking 
> the hitting the content with a Wikipedia level of thoroughness then I, as 
> you pointed out, am already doing the organization/relationship building 
> *manually*? If yes, is there a "better" (or more simplistic) way where I 
> utilize the tools in Stroll (or even Drift) to make it more automated? Or 
> is the effort I'm putting in just a requirement of the wikipedia level of 
> content?
>
> 2) Using my original example of tiddlers another method I could use would 
> be instead of adding the link back to the Country tiddler inside the City 
> tiddler description, just leave the single link at the top when you created 
> it from the Country tiddler and then keep typing. In that case it is just a 
> preference of how you want to do the link back?
>
> Also, again thank you very much for mentioning Drift. While I'm still 
> looking into it, and I think I came across it before though I didn't 
> understand it fully the first time around, from what I understand now of 
> "Freelinks" it might be the answer I'm looking for regarding trying to 
> write down as much as possible, regardless of content and topic, and have 
> it grouped together by keywords. It could also beneficial when I once again 
> combine my world tiddly with my book tiddly so as I write things in the 
> book I can reference it later on the appropriate/associated/specific 
> tiddler with Freelinks turned on.
>
> Not to sound redundant but thank you again!
>
> On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 7:46:42 PM UTC-4 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi iamdar...
>>
>> TiddlyWiki always had bidirectional linking. If you create a link in 
>> tiddler A to tiddler B, you could go to tiddler B, open "info" from the 
>> tiddler more menu, and see tiddler A under backlinks. So obviously, 
>> backlinking was pretty hidden and not very practical. Too many steps to get 
>> to it.
>>
>> Roam Research made bidirectional linking more visible. All the references 
>> are at the bottom of each page on Roam. So, since Stroll was an experiment 
>> to see how much of Roam that I could replicate in TiddlyWiki, I also made 
>> b-linking visible.
>>
>> I use backlinks mostly for quick navigation to related concepts, but it 
>> also helps the serendipitous discovery of related concepts. 
>>
>> In the example you give, you wouldn't technically need backlinking, since 
>> each tiddler refers to the other (Country A and City A, for example). But 
>> as you hint at, there are plenty of topics where you might not want to go 
>> through all the effort of writing out each description fully and with ample 
>> backlinks, as you have done. Life is short, and hopefully you are not 
>> trying to compete with Wikipedia for completeness. 
>>
>> I tend to create what I call index tiddlers when I want to create a table 
>> of contents on a given topic (say, Index: Country A). I keep that separate 
>> from Country A, where I keep the definition and description. But I usually 
>> find a way to hide index tiddlers when viewing in context or as 
>> transclusion, because index tiddlers tend to be longer.
>>
>> If you haven't seen Drift, you might also want

Re: [tw5] List values and add/remove from field

Thanks Mohammad, 
what you have done is working. Thank you so much!

Only it does not display the values from the "warning" fields.

By replacing this code:
<$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
with this:
<$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>

I at least get it working.


What I mean by: [tags:warning[]]?
I honestly have no idea. I've been working on this piece of code for a 
while and couldn't figure it out. Somehow that got in there and it works.

Maybe you have another suggestion?

Thank you,

Op vrijdag 4 juni 2021 om 13:29:28 UTC+2 schreef Mohammad:

> This second code also search in field warning using Shiraz list-search
>
> <$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
> <]" search:"search:title">>
> 
>
> <$count filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" />
>
> <$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>
>
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-warning btn-mini" >
>
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="[]" />
> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
> 
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-info btn-mini" >
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="-[]" />
> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
> 
> <$text text=<>/>
> 
>
> I modified your filter, as I think yours is not correct!
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM vinvi...@gmail.com  
> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> To avoid duplications of values in fields warning;
>> list all unique values from the warning field of all tiddlers with 2 
>> buttons: Add and Remove. (Add and remove from $(currentTiddler)$ )
>>
>>
>> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>>
>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
>> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
>> 
>> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
>> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
>> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
>> 
>> <>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 1) When the value is added to the field, the square brackets are missing. 
>> How do I ensure that the value is noted between square brackets?
>>
>> 2) I am unable to remove the value from the field. 
>> $subfilter="-123" is working. But how do I get it to work referring to 
>> <>?
>>
>> 3) It would be totally awesome if I had a search function. By replacing 
>> <$list filter with;
>>
>> <> warning">>
>>
>> Which works fine on its own but I can't get it implemented.
>>
>>
>> Can somebody please help me out?
>>
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Re: [tw5] List values and add/remove from field

This second code also search in field warning using Shiraz list-search

<$vars items={{{[get[warning]] }}} >
<]" search:"search:title">>


<$count filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" />

<$list filter="[tags[]!is[system]]" variable=warning-value>

<$button type="button" class="btn btn-warning btn-mini" >
<$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="[]" />
{{$:/core/images/new-button}}

<$button type="button" class="btn btn-info btn-mini" >
<$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="-[]" />
{{$:/core/images/delete-button}}

<$text text=<>/>


I modified your filter, as I think yours is not correct!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> To avoid duplications of values in fields warning;
> list all unique values from the warning field of all tiddlers with 2
> buttons: Add and Remove. (Add and remove from $(currentTiddler)$ )
>
>
> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
> 
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
> 
> <>
> 
>
>
> 1) When the value is added to the field, the square brackets are missing.
> How do I ensure that the value is noted between square brackets?
>
> 2) I am unable to remove the value from the field.
> $subfilter="-123" is working. But how do I get it to work referring to
> <>?
>
> 3) It would be totally awesome if I had a search function. By replacing
> <$list filter with;
>
> < warning">>
>
> Which works fine on its own but I can't get it implemented.
>
>
> Can somebody please help me out?
>
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Re: [tw5] HttpPlatformHandler 404

2021-06-04 Thread Nathan Hindle

Hi Jeremy,

Thank you again for the swift response!

ooo, I didn't notice that Twitter article when I was doing some digging.
Thank you for providing it

Ill keep an eye out on that thread

Many thanks again for your assistance,

Nathan

On Fri, 4 Jun 2021 at 10:17, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:

> Hi Nathan,
>
> I can confirm that I am no longer able to access
> https://www.iis.net/downloads/microsoft/httpplatformhandler (For me, it’s
> timing out rather than a 404)
>
> It looks like this is happening for everyone now:
> Cannot download HttpPlatformHandler anymore - Microsoft Q
> 
>
>
> It’s encouraging that people still care about it, hopefully it will be
> fixed.
>
> On Twitter, Scott Hanselman has said “That’s my team, I’ll take a look”:
>
> https://twitter.com/shanselman/status/1399975956689784835
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> If you click on any of the download links further down the page they will
> come back with 404 links. Does this not happen for you?
>
> For example:
> 404 - File or directory not found. (microsoft.com)
> 
>
> The install link at the top redirects to:
> Windows Web App Gallery FAQ | Microsoft Docs
> 
>
> and this advises:
> The Windows Web Application Gallery (WWAG) is being retired on July 1, 2021
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Nathan
>
>
> On Thursday, 3 June 2021 at 22:26:21 UTC+1 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Nathan
>>
>> The listed URL is working for me; it may have been a temporary failure:
>>
>> https://www.iis.net/downloads/microsoft/httpplatformhandler
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>> --
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>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 3 Jun 2021, at 20:57, Nathan Hindle  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Now you can no longer install HttpPlatformHandler as it gives a 404. Is
>> there an altrernative guide to follow to setup tidlywiki in IIS ?
>>
>> Many Thanks,
>>
>> Nathan
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Re: [tw5] List values and add/remove from field

Also what do you mean by this:

<$list filter="[tags*:warning*[]]" variable=warning-value>


do you mean

<$list filter="[tags[]]" variable=warning-value>

I have not seen tags that can accept modifiers!


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> To avoid duplications of values in fields warning;
> list all unique values from the warning field of all tiddlers with 2
> buttons: Add and Remove. (Add and remove from $(currentTiddler)$ )
>
>
> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
> 
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
> 
> <>
> 
>
>
> 1) When the value is added to the field, the square brackets are missing.
> How do I ensure that the value is noted between square brackets?
>
> 2) I am unable to remove the value from the field.
> $subfilter="-123" is working. But how do I get it to work referring to
> <>?
>
> 3) It would be totally awesome if I had a search function. By replacing
> <$list filter with;
>
> < warning">>
>
> Which works fine on its own but I can't get it implemented.
>
>
> Can somebody please help me out?
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Re: [tw5] Re: German documentation / deutsche Dokumentation

On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 1:00:45 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:

> Ich möchte die "user macros" _fbb/ ... so weit wie möglich reduzieren und 
> die $:/editions/tw5.com/doc-macros 
> 
>  
> übersetzen, wenn nötig. Damit haben wir dann die Möglichkeit diese tiddler 
> zu "tracken". ... 
>
> Den "tracking" Mechanismus beschreibe ich in meinem nächsten Post.
>

Jeder von uns veränderte Tiddler bekommt 2 neue Felder: 

 - *origin-title*
 -* origin-sha256*

origin-title enthält den titel des tiddlers auf tiddlywiki.com ... Damit 
können wir mit einer variablen *origin-base-url* einen Link erstellen und 
den Tiddler auf GitHub oder über tiddlywiki.com oder 
tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ abfragen. 

Von diesem Original erstellen wir dann einen SHA-256 Wert, der in unserem 
tiddler eingetragen wird. ... Das kann man manuell aber auch automatisch 
machen. ... Mit dieser Info lässt sich dann ganz leicht feststellen, ob ein 
Original verändert wurde. ... Wenn Ja, dann besteht auf unserer Seite 
Handlungsbedarf. 

Ich denke das ist der einzige Weg große Teile der Wartung zu automatisieren 
und den menschlichen Anteil auf das Wichtige, die Übersetzung, zu 
reduzieren. 

-mario

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Re: [tw5] List values and add/remove from field

The below modified code answers your questions 1 and 2.

<$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>

<$button type="button" class="btn btn-warning btn-mini" >
<$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="[]" />
{{$:/core/images/new-button}}

<$button type="button" class="btn btn-info btn-mini" >
<$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter="-[]" />
{{$:/core/images/delete-button}}

<>


I did not understand what you wanted by Q3! Where do you want to search? in
the warning field?


Best wishes
Mohammad


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM vinvi...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> To avoid duplications of values in fields warning;
> list all unique values from the warning field of all tiddlers with 2
> buttons: Add and Remove. (Add and remove from $(currentTiddler)$ )
>
>
> <$list filter="[tags:warning[]]" variable=warning-value>
>
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
> {{$:/core/images/new-button}}
> 
> <$button type="button" class="btn btn-secondary btn-mini" >
> <$action-listops $field="warning" $subfilter=<>/>
> {{$:/core/images/delete-button}}
> 
> <>
> 
>
>
> 1) When the value is added to the field, the square brackets are missing.
> How do I ensure that the value is noted between square brackets?
>
> 2) I am unable to remove the value from the field.
> $subfilter="-123" is working. But how do I get it to work referring to
> <>?
>
> 3) It would be totally awesome if I had a search function. By replacing
> <$list filter with;
>
> < warning">>
>
> Which works fine on its own but I can't get it implemented.
>
>
> Can somebody please help me out?
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Re: [tw5] Re: German documentation / deutsche Dokumentation

On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 12:21:54 AM UTC+2 f.brunsb...@gmail.com wrote:

Auf dem üblichen Platz (https://fbb.uber.space/otherprj/TiddlyWiki-Doku.html) 
> habe ich die neue Version hochgeladen. 
> Die geänderten Tiddler stelle ich hier 
> 
>  
> zur Verfügung bitte mal kontrollieren ob da die Ordnerinformationen, welche 
> du das letzte vermisst hast, mitgeliefert werden.
>

Es wäre gut geänderte Tiddler als JSON zu exportieren. Das kann man in 
Advanced Search : Filter Tab  mit dem [haschanged[]]  für eine Sitzung, 
oder [days[-14]] für die Änderungen der letzten 2 Wochen, machen.

Das herunterladen und importieren einer Datei ist weit leichter ;)

Ich sollte aber auch mit (
https://fbb.uber.space/otherprj/TiddlyWiki-Doku.html) zurecht kommen. 

Ich hoffe ich kann dieses Wochenende eine kurze Anleitung machen. Damit 
sollten wir dann schon zusammen kommen. 

Ich möchte die "user macros" _fbb/ ... so weit wie möglich reduzieren und 
die $:/editions/tw5.com/doc-macros 

übersetzen, wenn nötig. Damit haben wir dann die Möglichkeit diese tiddler 
zu "tracken". ... 

Den "tracking" Mechanismus beschreibe ich in meinem nächsten Post.

-mario

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[tw5] Re: [Tutorial] running your own Node.js TW5 on Microsoft Azure for Free

2021-06-04 Thread Stobot

Thanks for this Tony K - I tried to follow this and it ended up not 
working, but I didn't really need it to work as I have other save options - 
was just playing, but sounds like a good option. 

BUT - since Tones mentioned BOB, I wanted to check if anyone somehow got 
BOB (i.e. MultiUser) working with this solution, because that would be a 
game-changer for me!! This *or any other solution* for hosting a Multi User 
over https rather than LAN would open up a ton of use-cases for me and my 
team. Anyone out there doing this?

On Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 12:39:29 PM UTC-4 Mark S. wrote:

> Added to TiddlyLinks.

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Re: [tw5] Re: German documentation / deutsche Dokumentation

On Thursday, May 20, 2021 at 8:57:15 PM UTC+2 f.brunsb...@gmail.com wrote:

>  * Welche OS verwendest Du? ... Ich kann eine Beschreibung oder ein Video 
> zusammen stellen, das zeigt wie man mit nodejs und GitHub arbeiten kann*
> Ich arbeite mit Linux.
>

Welche distro?

> Mit Node.js hab ich auch schon gearbeiten, nur bei GitHub kenn ich mich so 
> gar nicht aus.
>

Git / GitHub ist nicht wirklich schwer. ... Es gibt nur ein paar Kommandos, 
die man wirklich braucht. ... Aber mit VisualStudio Code kann man 
eigentlich alles mit einer GUI machen. ... 

> Auch habe ich mir die Nutzung von TiddlyWiki unter Node.js noch nicht so 
> genau angesehen ich brauchte es bis dato nur offline.
>

Die node-version von TW ist halt sehr praktisch wenn man mit git 
entwickelt. Wenn ein "edition-server" läuft, dann werden direct *.tid files 
geschrieben und diese können dann direkt von git übernommen werden. Bei 
einem pull-request ist es dann sehr einfach genau zu sehen, was geändert 
wurde. Siehe: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/5703/files

> Seufz... das heißt wohl ich muss mir doch einen Account bei GitHub zulegen?
>

Das wäre schon gut.

TiddlyWiki hat eine CLA Contributor License Agreement, die "unterzeichnet" 
werden muss, damit Dein Inhalt auch verwendet werden darf. 

Das kann direkt über die WEB-UI erledigt werden. Einfach den "Edit button" 
clicken und Deinen Namen und den GitHub User-namen mit Datum anhängen und 
einen PR erstellen. ... Du kannst nichts kaputt machen. 

Ich habe 2014  3 videos 

erstellt die den Vorgang zeigen. ... Mittlerweile hat sich die GitHub 
Oberfläche verändert, aber das "Grundsystem" sollte noch stimmen.  Ich 
sollte da mal 3 neue Videos machen. ... 

-mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: Is there a way to automatically save changes on TiddlyWiki?

On Friday, June 4, 2021 at 9:13:12 AM UTC+2 arlandri...@gmail.com wrote:

> Another reason why I would like to be as safe as possible using TiddlyWiki 
> is because sometimes it happens that I want to modifiy a tiddler and the 
> whole tiddler's component disappears... 

What do you mean with "tiddler's component disappears"? ... If I do write 
text content it has never happened, that I accidentally deleted something. 
... 

If I write new plugins or experiment with action-setfield or similar 
widgets it can happen, that I delete something, if the widget variables are 
not initialized in the right way. 
But for experiments I always use a "throw away copy" of a wiki not a 
production version. 
For development I also work with a version control system, which makes it 
relatively safe to experiment. 

> If I didn't save the original document on Google docs I would have lost 
> all the material on which I have worked for almost a year...has this ever 
> happened to you?
>

No ... For file TWs I do use my file-backups browser plugin 
, which saves backups with a 
special "Backup Strategy", which makes it harder to loose content. Due to 
browser security restrictions my wikis have to be in a x:\Downloads\wikis\ 
folder ... But that's OK for me, since the folder is additionally pushed to 
a Qnap NAS, where all my important content is backed-up.

-mario

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[tw5] List values and add/remove from field