[tw5] Re: Link in Img

[Eric Shulman]

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 4:32:27 PM UTC-7 mohamed...@hotmail.com wrote:

> is it possible to go even further and put one of tiddlywiki's widgets on 
> top of an image, like a select widget for example?
>

You can't do that using an HTML image map.

However, your question got me thinking about a completely different 
approach that will let you put ANY content (wikitext, links, widgets, etc.) 
on top of any image:

Try this:

[img[https://www.w3schools.com/html/workplace.jpg]]

<$select field="selection" size="4">
   foo bar baz
   mumble frotz
   gronk snork
   snerfle plurm


 [[SomeTiddler]] 
<$button style="position:absolute;bottom:0;right:0;"> click me
   <$action-navigate $to="SomeTiddler" />



Notes:
* The outer div with 
style="position:relative;width:fit-content;height:fit-content" establishes 
a top/left (0,0)-based coordinate system with a bottom/right that matches 
the size of the image
* The image can be rendered using the wikitext [img[...]] syntax (since it 
no longer needs the #usemap syntax)
* The inner div with style="position:absolute;top:5em;left:5em" positions 
content within the relative coordinate system
* As shown in the above example, you can place anything you like, anywhere 
you like simply by using different values for "top", "left", "bottom" or 
"right"
* You can use any CSS dimensions that work for you, such as px, em, cm, in, 
etc.

enjoy,
-e

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[tw5] Re: add hour to field

[TW Tones]

Mohamad,

Unfortunately with this kind of project the "devil is in the details". What 
I suggest before proceeding is to really think about what you want from 
this. For example if inserting an item pushes future items away then they 
were not really (fixed) scheduled but placed in a queue which you are happy 
to reorder. All you need to store is the time frame they each take and the 
order in which they are listed, and you can re-generate your time spaced 
list.

I wanted to do something similar so if I delay start of one activity, or 
take longer/shorter in one task, this change is reflected in updating my 
schedule. 


   - What I suggest is create items with a date and the estimated length of 
   task and maintain an ordered list of these. Simply determine the start and 
   end times dynamically. Basically the last end time plus the length of the 
   current.
   - Any given booking could have an enforced start time and/or end times 
   set, and you will need to handle the impact of these.
   - One tip, is the smartest part of your computer or mobile, the 
   operating system, tiddlywiki etc.. is still you. If you make it easy for 
   yourself, visual etc... you can implement quite sophisticated methods 
   yourself even without automation, and any way you may want control of your 
   destiny.
   - By the way don't be too preciouses about the hours as they relate to a 
   date, you can just manage a separate hour field on a day in question.

I will see if I can give this some further thought
Tones
On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 11:16:06 UTC+10 mohamed...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> OK , i confess, i cant hack this , i don't think i have the necessary 
> skill to do what i want..
>
> what i really want  is a  schedule where i can scooch over appointments to 
> fit one in between existing ones , I think it would be a useful tool for 
> anyone who hectic scheduled and is constantly required to reschedule 
> appointments ,calls or tasks
>
> so if you think this is easy  , or if you are remotely interested that 
> would be great, if not, i am still very grateful for your help either way:)
>
> My Idea was displaying a weeks schedule in  a list filter where every 
> tiddler listed is a task with a start field value and end date field value, 
> and tagged "task"... which i can do easily
>
> then in parallel. have another schedule . again , represented in a list 
> filter , but every tiddler listed is a "Call"with with a start date field 
> value and and end date field value  , and tagged call
>
> and the whole idea is to have some mechanism to work as follows
>
> 1-if a call is added in a non vacant slot , then push all tasks with a 
> value equal to the duration of the call 
> 2-if a new task is added in a non vacant slot,   then push all tasks with 
> a value equal to the duration of the task 
>
> where 
> vacant slot = a time space where a tiddler can only hold a start date and 
> an end date value that are not overlapping with in other tiddlers tagged 
> call or  task
> non vacant slot= a time space where an existing tiddler already occupies 
> Duration of a call or duration of a  task =  is the difference between the 
> start and end date field values
> Tasks = tiddlers tagged task
> Calls =  tiddlers tagged Call
>
> and
>
> calls cannot over lap with other calls 
> tasks cannot over lap with other tasks
> Calls cannot over lap with tasks
>
> also this all assumes there is a start and end and for a working day/week  
> IE. 9 to 5  excluding sat and sunday
>
> is this generally speaking achievable in tiddly wiki ?
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 12:05:56 AM UTC+2 paulgilbert2000 wrote:
>
>> Thanks again :)
>>
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:07:08 AM UTC+2 Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 2:07:23 PM UTC-7 mohamed...@hotmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 1-can i have this macro work for 2 fields at the same time , so same 
 button pushes an hour for 2 fields

>>>
>>> Just replicate the code to adjust each field, like this:
>>> <$button> add an hour
>>> <$vars time={{!!field1}} offset="+01:00">
>>> <$wikify name="newtime" text=<>>
>>> <$action-setfield field1=<> />
>>> 
>>> 
>>> <$vars time={{!!field2}} offset="+01:00">
>>> <$wikify name="newtime" text=<>>
>>> <$action-setfield field2=<> />
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>>
 2- can this work for all fields tagged a particular tag , so for 
 example list all tiddlers matching a criteria , then one push of a button 
 adds an hour to all listed tidlers

>>>
>>> The code works with a field from the current tiddler, so if you put it 
>>> within a $list widget that finds all the desired tiddlers, it will update 
>>> all the tiddlers with one button push:
>>> <$button> add an hour
>>> <$list filter="[tag[sometag]]">
>>><$vars time={{!!somefield}} offset="+01:00">
>>><$wikify name="newtime" text=<>>
>>><$action-setfield somefield=<> />
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>
>>> enjoy,
>>> -e 
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: add hour to field

[paulgilbert2000]

Hi,

OK , i confess, i cant hack this , i don't think i have the necessary skill 
to do what i want..

what i really want  is a  schedule where i can scooch over appointments to 
fit one in between existing ones , I think it would be a useful tool for 
anyone who hectic scheduled and is constantly required to reschedule 
appointments ,calls or tasks

so if you think this is easy  , or if you are remotely interested that 
would be great, if not, i am still very grateful for your help either way:)

My Idea was displaying a weeks schedule in  a list filter where every 
tiddler listed is a task with a start field value and end date field value, 
and tagged "task"... which i can do easily

then in parallel. have another schedule . again , represented in a list 
filter , but every tiddler listed is a "Call"with with a start date field 
value and and end date field value  , and tagged call

and the whole idea is to have some mechanism to work as follows

1-if a call is added in a non vacant slot , then push all tasks with a 
value equal to the duration of the call 
2-if a new task is added in a non vacant slot,   then push all tasks with a 
value equal to the duration of the task 

where 
vacant slot = a time space where a tiddler can only hold a start date and 
an end date value that are not overlapping with in other tiddlers tagged 
call or  task
non vacant slot= a time space where an existing tiddler already occupies 
Duration of a call or duration of a  task =  is the difference between the 
start and end date field values
Tasks = tiddlers tagged task
Calls =  tiddlers tagged Call

and

calls cannot over lap with other calls 
tasks cannot over lap with other tasks
Calls cannot over lap with tasks

also this all assumes there is a start and end and for a working day/week  
IE. 9 to 5  excluding sat and sunday

is this generally speaking achievable in tiddly wiki ?



On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 12:05:56 AM UTC+2 paulgilbert2000 wrote:

> Thanks again :)
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:07:08 AM UTC+2 Eric Shulman wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, July 11, 2021 at 2:07:23 PM UTC-7 mohamed...@hotmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> 1-can i have this macro work for 2 fields at the same time , so same 
>>> button pushes an hour for 2 fields
>>>
>>
>> Just replicate the code to adjust each field, like this:
>> <$button> add an hour
>> <$vars time={{!!field1}} offset="+01:00">
>> <$wikify name="newtime" text=<>>
>> <$action-setfield field1=<> />
>> 
>> 
>> <$vars time={{!!field2}} offset="+01:00">
>> <$wikify name="newtime" text=<>>
>> <$action-setfield field2=<> />
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  
>>
>>> 2- can this work for all fields tagged a particular tag , so for example 
>>> list all tiddlers matching a criteria , then one push of a button adds an 
>>> hour to all listed tidlers
>>>
>>
>> The code works with a field from the current tiddler, so if you put it 
>> within a $list widget that finds all the desired tiddlers, it will update 
>> all the tiddlers with one button push:
>> <$button> add an hour
>> <$list filter="[tag[sometag]]">
>><$vars time={{!!somefield}} offset="+01:00">
>><$wikify name="newtime" text=<>>
>><$action-setfield somefield=<> />
>>
>>
>> 
>> 
>>
>> enjoy,
>> -e 
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

[Brian Radspinner]

Try bumping up the z-index of the tiddler being edited:

.tc-tiddler-edit-frame { z-index: 1000 !important; }

The tiddler being edited will have a higher much higher z-index than all 
the other tiddlers still in view mode with z-index around 200.

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:14:44 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> "I believe  z index of 1000"
> No, there is already 1000 in the parent element.
>
> --
> Let's take a look at the other side.
>
> /* TAG SELECTOR */
> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
> white-space: normal;
> min-width: 620px !important;
> }
> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
> display: inline-block !important;
> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
> }
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: sticky;
>height: 30em;
>overflow-y: auto;
> }
> Almost not bad, but the first line of the first tag is always twitching.
> https://i.imgur.com/aYCj77Z.jpg
> https://i.imgur.com/uRy5uDx.jpg
> Maybe try to get rid of this?
> I fiddled with the CSS for a long time, but nothing came of it better. Any 
> ideas?
>
> среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 00:58:50 UTC+3, TW Tones: 
>
>> I believe  z index of 1000 or 1500 should stop this. 
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 03:07:30 UTC+10 Brian Radspinner wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler frame 
>>> is given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no matter what 
>>> you set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther down the 
>>> river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the story 
>>> river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
>>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
 Turn on Sticky titles 
 
   
 -  yes 

 /* TAG SELECTOR */

 .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
 white-space: normal;
 min-width: 620px !important;
 }
 .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
 display: inline-block !important;
 padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
 }
 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: fixed;
top: 100px;
right: 40px;
bottom: 200px;
width: 30em;
overflow-y: auto;
 }



 вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 

> That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu 
> floats above other tiddlers.
>
> Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
> .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?
>
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
>> window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented 
>> with 
>> z-index but to no avail.
>> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> or even overflow-y: auto;
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I 
> also had this a couple of days ago :(
> You wrote about CSS
>
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 0;
>right: 0;
>bottom: 0;
>width: 30em;
> }
>
> I changed and now I really like it!
>
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 100px;
>right: 40px;
>bottom: 200px;
>width: 30em;
> }
>
> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
> hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you 
> don't 
> have to search again every time.
> Not bad and very convenient!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
>> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the 
>> tag, only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a 
>> different 
>> place every time!
>> This is how it works
>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the 
>> next tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in 
>> such a 
>> terrible state!
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, Davi

[tw5] Re: Link in Img

[paulgilbert2000]

Thanks eric,

is it possible to go even further and put one of tidly wikis widgets on top 
of an image, like a select widget for example?

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:10:27 AM UTC+2 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 3:11:01 PM UTC-7 mohamed...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> i am trying to do a wireframe for a portal i use , and want to put 
>> multiple links on top of their respective positions in an image taken from 
>> the portal, to simulate a user journey,
>> and was wondering if it is it possible to put a link on top of an image
>>
>
> You can use HTML Image Maps to do this.
> see https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_images_imagemap.asp for basic 
> HTML usage.
>
> In TiddlyWiki, you can apply the image map to an external image, like this:
> https://www.w3schools.com/html/workplace.jpg"; alt="Workplace" 
> usemap="#workmap" width="400" height="379">
> 
>href="#computer">
>   
>href="#coffee">
> 
>
> Note that the href="..." parameters start with "#", so that they point to 
> tiddlers within the current file, rather than separate URLs
>
> You can also apply the image map to an internal image, like this:
> <$wikify name="srcimg" text="<>">
> > alt="Workplace" usemap="#workmap" width="400" 
> height="379">
> 
> 
>href="#computer">
>   
>href="#coffee">
> 
>
> Note:
> To use the internal image example above, you must download and import the 
> "workplace.jpg" image:
>
>1. open the image URL in your browser: 
>https://www.w3schools.com/html/workplace.jpg
>2. right click on the image and choose "save image as..." to download 
>to a local copy
>3. drag the local file into your TiddlyWiki to import it as a tiddler 
>named "workplace.jpg"
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[David Gifford]

Tones

Yes, this has been a great learning experience for me, but it also feels 
like my dragging people into the process has resulted in new insights for 
them as well. Very enjoyable to see that happen.

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 6:14:40 PM UTC-5 TW Tones wrote:

> David,
>
> Thanks, I did not know about that pragma "\relink det tid",
>
> Relink is seriously powerful, 
>
> Tones
>
> On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 09:06:41 UTC+10 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi Tones, 
>>
>> The det macro does in fact relink. No need to alter anything for that to 
>> work. There is a line in the macro that makes it work.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 5:58 PM TW Tones  wrote:
>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I have not done it yet but relink has comprehensive set of 
>>> customisations and I believe you may be able to name "the det" macro and 
>>> its parameter " tid" to be subject to re-linking.
>>>
>>> If you compile this solution into a JSON or plugin you may be able to 
>>> include this relink definition in your package, perhaps even include the 
>>> relink plugin. 
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Tones
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 00:14:21 UTC+10 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Saq for giving me another option!




 On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:08 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> Ouch that is annoying.
>
> One workaround would be:
>
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
> 
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:52:28 PM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Thanks Saq. 
>>
>> Doing it as <> turns it into a , which forces line breaks 
>> above and below. Doing it as a macrocall lets me have each one on the 
>> next 
>> line.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-5 Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>>> Looks spiffy. All this time talking about wanting an outliner in TW 
>>> and you could have written it all along.
>>>
>>> Why
>>>
>>> <$macrocall $name=det tid="The relationship between the Old and New 
>>> Testaments"/>
>>>
>>> instead of:
>>> <>
>>>
>>> Is it for the autocomplete support? If so, we might be able to do 
>>> something about that.
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Saq
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 6:08:39 AM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone

 I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very 
 helpful. Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes 
 in the 
 description.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo

 In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details 
 element slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can 
 be 
 nested kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if 
 there 
 are more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant 
 outline. And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the 
 edit-comptext plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to 
 autocomplete 
 to create a det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.

 I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer 
 feedback: https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html

 Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will 
 make it available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration 
 for 
 you and feedback for me.

 Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave


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Re: [tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[TW Tones]

David,

Thanks, I did not know about that pragma "\relink det tid",

Relink is seriously powerful, 

Tones

On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 09:06:41 UTC+10 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi Tones, 
>
> The det macro does in fact relink. No need to alter anything for that to 
> work. There is a line in the macro that makes it work.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 5:58 PM TW Tones  wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> I have not done it yet but relink has comprehensive set of customisations 
>> and I believe you may be able to name "the det" macro and its parameter " 
>> tid" to be subject to re-linking.
>>
>> If you compile this solution into a JSON or plugin you may be able to 
>> include this relink definition in your package, perhaps even include the 
>> relink plugin. 
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 00:14:21 UTC+10 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Saq for giving me another option!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:08 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>>>
 Ouch that is annoying.

 One workaround would be:

 
 <>
 <>
 <>
 

 On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:52:28 PM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:

> Thanks Saq. 
>
> Doing it as <> turns it into a , which forces line breaks 
> above and below. Doing it as a macrocall lets me have each one on the 
> next 
> line.
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-5 Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
>> Looks spiffy. All this time talking about wanting an outliner in TW 
>> and you could have written it all along.
>>
>> Why
>>
>> <$macrocall $name=det tid="The relationship between the Old and New 
>> Testaments"/>
>>
>> instead of:
>> <>
>>
>> Is it for the autocomplete support? If so, we might be able to do 
>> something about that.
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Saq
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 6:08:39 AM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very 
>>> helpful. Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes in 
>>> the 
>>> description.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo
>>>
>>> In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details 
>>> element slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can 
>>> be 
>>> nested kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if 
>>> there 
>>> are more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant 
>>> outline. And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the 
>>> edit-comptext plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to 
>>> autocomplete 
>>> to create a det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.
>>>
>>> I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer 
>>> feedback: https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html
>>>
>>> Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will 
>>> make it available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration 
>>> for 
>>> you and feedback for me.
>>>
>>> Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave
>>>
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[David Gifford]

Hi Tones,

The det macro does in fact relink. No need to alter anything for that to
work. There is a line in the macro that makes it work.




On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 5:58 PM TW Tones  wrote:

> David,
>
> I have not done it yet but relink has comprehensive set of customisations
> and I believe you may be able to name "the det" macro and its parameter "
> tid" to be subject to re-linking.
>
> If you compile this solution into a JSON or plugin you may be able to
> include this relink definition in your package, perhaps even include the
> relink plugin.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
> On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 00:14:21 UTC+10 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Thanks Saq for giving me another option!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:08 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>>
>>> Ouch that is annoying.
>>>
>>> One workaround would be:
>>>
>>> 
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> <>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:52:28 PM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Saq.

 Doing it as <> turns it into a , which forces line breaks
 above and below. Doing it as a macrocall lets me have each one on the next
 line.

 On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-5 Saq Imtiaz wrote:

> Looks spiffy. All this time talking about wanting an outliner in TW
> and you could have written it all along.
>
> Why
>
> <$macrocall $name=det tid="The relationship between the Old and New
> Testaments"/>
>
> instead of:
> <>
>
> Is it for the autocomplete support? If so, we might be able to do
> something about that.
> Cheers,
>
> Saq
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 6:08:39 AM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very
>> helpful. Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes in 
>> the
>> description.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo
>>
>> In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details
>> element slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can be
>> nested kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if 
>> there
>> are more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant
>> outline. And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the
>> edit-comptext plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to 
>> autocomplete
>> to create a det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.
>>
>> I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer
>> feedback: https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html
>>
>> Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will make
>> it available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration for you
>> and feedback for me.
>>
>> Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[TW Tones]

David,

I have not done it yet but relink has comprehensive set of customisations 
and I believe you may be able to name "the det" macro and its parameter " 
tid" to be subject to re-linking.

If you compile this solution into a JSON or plugin you may be able to 
include this relink definition in your package, perhaps even include the 
relink plugin. 

Regards
Tones


On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 00:14:21 UTC+10 David Gifford wrote:

> Thanks Saq for giving me another option!
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:08 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>
>> Ouch that is annoying.
>>
>> One workaround would be:
>>
>> 
>> <>
>> <>
>> <>
>> 
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:52:28 PM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Saq. 
>>>
>>> Doing it as <> turns it into a , which forces line breaks above 
>>> and below. Doing it as a macrocall lets me have each one on the next line.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-5 Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>>
 Looks spiffy. All this time talking about wanting an outliner in TW and 
 you could have written it all along.

 Why

 <$macrocall $name=det tid="The relationship between the Old and New 
 Testaments"/>

 instead of:
 <>

 Is it for the autocomplete support? If so, we might be able to do 
 something about that.
 Cheers,

 Saq

 On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 6:08:39 AM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very 
> helpful. Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes in 
> the 
> description.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo
>
> In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details 
> element slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can be 
> nested kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if 
> there 
> are more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant 
> outline. And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the 
> edit-comptext plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to 
> autocomplete 
> to create a det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.
>
> I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer 
> feedback: https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html
>
> Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will make 
> it available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration for you 
> and feedback for me.
>
> Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave
>
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[tw5] Re: How to understand if we have number in the field or not

[TW Tones]

 Siniy-Kit,

To stop non numbers existing in a field to begin with, you may want to make 
use of the html type on the edit-text widget.

<$edit-text tiddler=test field=my-number type=number/>

Also;

   - Other enhancements to the edit-text widget may allow you to test or 
   control the values entered
   - You may be interested in this discussion 
    which shows 
   how you can increment numbers that have units attached.

I believe we could build on the Mathematics operators documentation, for 
example can we say match[Infinity] or match[!Infinity] 


Regards
Tones
On Monday, 12 July 2021 at 21:27:37 UTC+10 Siniy-Kit wrote:

> Hi!  I use minall[]  in filter,  and sometimes get "infinity" when one of 
> the field values is text (not number) How can I check numbers in filter?  
> (something like is[number]  )

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

[Mike Andyl]

"I believe  z index of 1000"
No, there is already 1000 in the parent element.

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Let's take a look at the other side.

/* TAG SELECTOR */
.tc-block-tags-dropdown{
white-space: normal;
min-width: 620px !important;
}
.tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
display: inline-block !important;
padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
}
.tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
   position: sticky;
   height: 30em;
   overflow-y: auto;
}
Almost not bad, but the first line of the first tag is always twitching.
https://i.imgur.com/aYCj77Z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uRy5uDx.jpg
Maybe try to get rid of this?
I fiddled with the CSS for a long time, but nothing came of it better. Any 
ideas?

среда, 14 июля 2021 г. в 00:58:50 UTC+3, TW Tones: 

> I believe  z index of 1000 or 1500 should stop this. 
>
> Tones
>
> On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 03:07:30 UTC+10 Brian Radspinner wrote:
>
>> I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler frame is 
>> given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no matter what you 
>> set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther down the 
>> river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the story 
>> river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
>>> Turn on Sticky titles 
>>> 
>>>   
>>> -  yes 
>>>
>>> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>>>
>>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
>>> white-space: normal;
>>> min-width: 620px !important;
>>> }
>>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
>>> display: inline-block !important;
>>> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
>>> }
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 100px;
>>>right: 40px;
>>>bottom: 200px;
>>>width: 30em;
>>>overflow-y: auto;
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>>>
 That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu floats 
 above other tiddlers.

 Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
 .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?


 On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
> window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented 
> with 
> z-index but to no avail.
> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> or even overflow-y: auto;
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I 
 also had this a couple of days ago :(
 You wrote about CSS

 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: fixed;
top: 0;
right: 0;
bottom: 0;
width: 30em;
 }

 I changed and now I really like it!

 .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
position: fixed;
top: 100px;
right: 40px;
bottom: 200px;
width: 30em;
 }

 Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
 hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you 
 don't 
 have to search again every time.
 Not bad and very convenient!

 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the 
> tag, only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a 
> different 
> place every time!
> This is how it works
> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the 
> next tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in 
> such a 
> terrible state!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>
>> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>>
>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of 
>>> tags and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the 
>>> selected tags 
>>> are still on the lis

[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

[TW Tones]

I believe  z index of 1000 or 1500 should stop this. 

Tones

On Wednesday, 14 July 2021 at 03:07:30 UTC+10 Brian Radspinner wrote:

> I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler frame is 
> given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no matter what you 
> set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther down the 
> river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the story 
> river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
>> Turn on Sticky titles 
>> 
>>   
>> -  yes 
>>
>> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>>
>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
>> white-space: normal;
>> min-width: 620px !important;
>> }
>> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
>> display: inline-block !important;
>> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
>> }
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 100px;
>>right: 40px;
>>bottom: 200px;
>>width: 30em;
>>overflow-y: auto;
>> }
>>
>>
>>
>> вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>>
>>> That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu floats 
>>> above other tiddlers.
>>>
>>> Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
>>> .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
 window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented 
 with 
 z-index but to no avail.
 https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> or even overflow-y: auto;
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I 
>>> also had this a couple of days ago :(
>>> You wrote about CSS
>>>
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 0;
>>>right: 0;
>>>bottom: 0;
>>>width: 30em;
>>> }
>>>
>>> I changed and now I really like it!
>>>
>>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>>position: fixed;
>>>top: 100px;
>>>right: 40px;
>>>bottom: 200px;
>>>width: 30em;
>>> }
>>>
>>> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
>>> hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't 
>>> have to search again every time.
>>> Not bad and very convenient!
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 Okay, but the last problem remains. 
 How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the 
 tag, only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a 
 different 
 place every time!
 This is how it works
 http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/

 This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next 
 tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a 
 terrible state!

 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 

> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>
> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of 
>> tags and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected 
>> tags 
>> are still on the list and continue to distract.
>>
>> This raises two questions?
>>
>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I 
>> don't have to scroll down the page?
>>
>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove 
>> from the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least 
>> change 
>> the color to a less noticeable?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins 
>> and nothing changed.
>
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[tw5] Re: How to install plugins on TW node?

[Saq Imtiaz]

You can drag and drop and install it in each of your wikis.

Or you can save the plugin to a "source 
folder": https://links.tiddlywiki.com/urls/4b5e9c4afc6923035ef9/

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:37:55 PM UTC+2 davou...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> I'm running TW 5.1.23 on node js and I want to install JD's Plain 
> Revisions (http://j.d.revisions.tiddlyspot.com/). I've installed plugins 
> that provide complete source like 
> kookma's commander. Unfortunately JD only provides the drag and drop 
> version. How do I properly install it on node for all my TW instances?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [Seeking Ideas] Issues with a TW in four languages ...

[Charlie Veniot]

I must watch that gem!  Looks fantastic.  Now, where to find it ...

For sure.  I wish I had time to learn other ones.  My hobby involves 
digging into dictionnaries of old French and various patois, all 
pre-20th-century books in Google Books.  Not enough hours in a day.



On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:51:04 PM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao Cj.v  
>
> I like very much love  Agnès Varda's documentary THE GLEANERS & I  
> . 
> Gleaning & Bricoleur activities seem to me fundamental to best use of TW 
> :-)
>
> French is actually a good language to appreciate TW in.
>
> Best wishes
> TW
>
> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 18:07:09 UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> ...  check out the mockumentary:  Le Chiac est la solution 
>>> 
>>>
>>
>> C'est merveilleux. Vous êtes bricoleur?
>> TT 
>>
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[tw5] Re: [Seeking Ideas] Issues with a TW in four languages ...

[Charlie Veniot]

Ste mockumentaire-là, cé pas moi qu'a faite ça.  Chui y'inque un regardeux. 

Mais, personalité, on pourrait, en tchèque-sorte, me dire un bricoleux 
(bricoleur), un brin patenteux (patenteur), pis à m'ouère (vouère, voir) un 
vrai piocheux (piocheur)  à cause que ma caboche pioche tou'l'temps: 
analyse par paralyse!

Le français standard/normé parlé, c'est comme le plus beau chant d'oiseau.  
Mais cé pas mon mouèneau (moineau)...

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:07:09 PM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> ...  check out the mockumentary:  Le Chiac est la solution 
>> 
>>
>
> C'est merveilleux. Vous êtes bricoleur?
> TT 
>

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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

[Brian Radspinner]

I don't think that simple CSS can solve this, since each tiddler frame is 
given a higher z-index as you go up the story river; so no matter what you 
set, each child will overlap all the tiddler elements farther down the 
river. You may have to just size the menu to not overlap with the story 
river, give the width a % to re-size with the window.
On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:03:15 AM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:

> https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
> Turn on Sticky titles 
> 
>   
> -  yes 
>
> /* TAG SELECTOR */
>
> .tc-block-tags-dropdown{
> white-space: normal;
> min-width: 620px !important;
> }
> .tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
> display: inline-block !important;
> padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
> }
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 100px;
>right: 40px;
>bottom: 200px;
>width: 30em;
>overflow-y: auto;
> }
>
>
>
> вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 
>
>> That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu floats 
>> above other tiddlers.
>>
>> Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
>> .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
>>> window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented with 
>>> z-index but to no avail.
>>> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 or even overflow-y: auto;

 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I also 
>> had this a couple of days ago :(
>> You wrote about CSS
>>
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 0;
>>right: 0;
>>bottom: 0;
>>width: 30em;
>> }
>>
>> I changed and now I really like it!
>>
>> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>>position: fixed;
>>top: 100px;
>>right: 40px;
>>bottom: 200px;
>>width: 30em;
>> }
>>
>> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
>> hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't 
>> have to search again every time.
>> Not bad and very convenient!
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
>>> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the 
>>> tag, only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a 
>>> different 
>>> place every time!
>>> This is how it works
>>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>>>
>>> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next 
>>> tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a 
>>> terrible state!
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>>>
 Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
 https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown

 On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of 
> tags and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected 
> tags 
> are still on the list and continue to distract.
>
> This raises two questions?
>
> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I 
> don't have to scroll down the page?
>
> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove 
> from the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least 
> change 
> the color to a less noticeable?
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Nice option with checkboxes here
> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>
> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
> nothing changed.



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[tw5] Re: [Seeking Ideas] Issues with a TW in four languages ...

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Cj.v  

I like very much love  Agnès Varda's documentary THE GLEANERS & I  
. 
Gleaning & Bricoleur activities seem to me fundamental to best use of TW :-)

French is actually a good language to appreciate TW in.

Best wishes
TW

On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 18:07:09 UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> ...  check out the mockumentary:  Le Chiac est la solution 
>> 
>>
>
> C'est merveilleux. Vous êtes bricoleur?
> TT 
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[tw5] Re: [Seeking Ideas] Issues with a TW in four languages ...

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Télumire

Thanks for that! It practically shows a way I could get what I need. 
Kudos!

Best wishes
TT

On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 17:38:03 UTC+2 Télumire wrote:

> Hello TiddlyTweeter,
>
> Expanding on cj.v elegant solution, you can also use a select widget if 
> you dont want to download a language plugin :
>
> <$select tiddler="$:/language">
>  fr-FR
>  en-GB
> 
>
>
>
>  <$text text={{{ 
> [[$:/language]get[text]regexp[fr-FR]thenget[fr-fr]] 
> [[$:/language]get[text]regexp[en-GB]thenget[en-gb]] }}} />
>
> Online demo : 
> https://telumire.github.io/TW-tips/#Conditional%20display%20based%20on%20language%20setting
> Le mardi 13 juillet 2021 à 15:10:14 UTC+2, cj.v...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>> G'day TT,
>>
>> If adding language plugins and using TW's language button make for an 
>> alright solution,  then checking the value of $:/language makes for an easy 
>> way to set context based on currently selected language.
>>
>> It should be easy enough to show the language button anywhere you need it 
>> for the sake of convenience.
>>
>> Then just a matter of showing image labels based on currently selected 
>> language.  something like:
>>  <$text text={{{ 
>> [[$:/language]get[text]regexp[fr-FR]thenget[field-fr-fr]] 
>> [[$:/language]get[text]regexp[en-GB]thenget[field-en-gb]] 
>> }}} />
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2021-07-13 9.55.44 AM.png]
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 7:06:15 AM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao cj.v
>>>
>>> It is not a silly question. It is helpful. Forces me to clarify.
>>>
>>> The situation is I have a gallery of 50+ images that each tiddler for 
>>> has four language fields for (German, English, Slovenian, Italian).
>>>
>>> What I am trying to sort out is WHETHER I should use BROWSER detection 
>>> of run context (which in TW ALSO means we can use [to a great extent?] the 
>>> "Info" plugin to ease its use) OR simply provide end users with a button on 
>>> startup to change what is shown.
>>>
>>> This is NOT really an issue about using the brilliant TW "lingo system" 
>>> because that relates most to UI elements. In the gallery those are MINIMAL 
>>> and it is not the issue.
>>>
>>> I am beginning to think I could use CSS to only show one language at a 
>>> time?
>>>
>>> Thankyou for your question! It pushed me on.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 02:19:05 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 G'day TT,

 Silly question: do you mean find out language setting chosen in TW, or 
 do you mean language setting for the browser?

 On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:45:22 PM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> This is merely an early query. I need some ideas on an efficient 
> approach to the following problem ...
>
> *AIM:* Put on-line the 54 images of "LIberty" by Angela Weyersberg 
> 
>  in 
> a self contained gallery.
>
> *THE CASE: *Each image of a painting has FOUR language variations for 
> its legend (English. Italian, Slovenian, German) FYI, the variants are 
> held 
> in fields of each image tiddler.
>
> *THE PROBLEM: *HOW do I in TW (1) Establish the language to invoke on 
> startup? (2) enable language switching?
>
> I realised the specific issue is not gonna be solved by the "lingo 
> mechanism" as is,  as in this particular case, its not UI buttons in 
> contest but actual content.
>
> I HOPE this is clear!
>
> At the moment I'm simply need some ideas about how to move forward.
> ANY ideas are most welcome
> TT
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[Charlie Veniot]

Me, just out of habit (to avoid monkeying around with Relink in every 
TiddlyWiki instance), always setup my macros like this:

   - example from your TiddlyWiki:<$macrocall $name=det tid="OT and NT as 
   two voices" />


   - my wordier approach: <$macrocall $name=det tid={{OT and NT as two 
   voices!!title}} />
  - Relink catches this "out of the box"
  - l don't imagine that being a preferred option for anybody but wee 
  old me, but I throw it out there for the giggles
 - It is quite ugly, but I know exactly what's going on as soon as 
 I see it, strangely enough
  

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 10:50:37 AM UTC-3 David Gifford wrote:

> Thanks Charlie
>
> Actually, the first line of this tiddler is what causes the det macro to 
> relink: 
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html#%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2FMacro%2FDet
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:25:05 AM UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That is quite awesome, David.  I'm a huge fan of the HTML detail element.
>>
>> Total aside:  I am an even bigger fan of the Relink plugin.  It saves me 
>> from, well, me.  Very nice how you've configured Relink to also check your 
>> macros whenever you change a tiddler title.
>>
>> For anybody wondering what the heck I'm referring to:  
>> https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fflibbles%2Frelink
>>  *(look at the "configuration" tab)*
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:08:39 AM UTC-3 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very helpful. 
>>> Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes in the 
>>> description.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo
>>>
>>> In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details 
>>> element slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can be 
>>> nested kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if there 
>>> are more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant 
>>> outline. And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the 
>>> edit-comptext plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to autocomplete 
>>> to create a det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.
>>>
>>> I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer 
>>> feedback: https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html
>>>
>>> Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will make it 
>>> available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration for you and 
>>> feedback for me.
>>>
>>> Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: [Seeking Ideas] Issues with a TW in four languages ...

[TiddlyTweeter]

cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> ...  check out the mockumentary:  Le Chiac est la solution 
> 
>

C'est merveilleux. Vous êtes bricoleur?
TT 

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[tw5] Re: [Seeking Ideas] Issues with a TW in four languages ...

[Charlie Veniot]

Being a bilingual French-Acadian Canadian, and liking stable interfaces, I 
rather like that idea of just having captions switching language context 
and everything TiddlyWiki not shifting.

*Aside and totally unrelated (well, totally intertwingled to me...)*

Although I don't speak "chiac", I appreciate it something silly.  For a 
laugh to those who do speak French, check out the mockumentary:  Le Chiac 
est la solution 

   - "J'ai crossé la street." - CAREFUL ! 
  - "crossé" is pronounced as per the English word "cross" followed by 
  the French "é"
  - "crossé", pronounced entirely in French, is a vulgar word.  Fun, 
  but vulgar ...
 - years ago, a unilingual anglophone at the office, in the process 
 of learning French, caused a bit of an uproar using the full French 
 pronunciation of "crossé", so funny
  
On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 12:38:03 PM UTC-3 Télumire wrote:

> Hello TiddlyTweeter,
>
> Expanding on cj.v elegant solution, you can also use a select widget if 
> you dont want to download a language plugin :
>
> <$select tiddler="$:/language">
>  fr-FR
>  en-GB
> 
>
>
>
>  <$text text={{{ 
> [[$:/language]get[text]regexp[fr-FR]thenget[fr-fr]] 
> [[$:/language]get[text]regexp[en-GB]thenget[en-gb]] }}} />
>
> Online demo : 
> https://telumire.github.io/TW-tips/#Conditional%20display%20based%20on%20language%20setting
> Le mardi 13 juillet 2021 à 15:10:14 UTC+2, cj.v...@gmail.com a écrit :
>
>> G'day TT,
>>
>> If adding language plugins and using TW's language button make for an 
>> alright solution,  then checking the value of $:/language makes for an easy 
>> way to set context based on currently selected language.
>>
>> It should be easy enough to show the language button anywhere you need it 
>> for the sake of convenience.
>>
>> Then just a matter of showing image labels based on currently selected 
>> language.  something like:
>>  <$text text={{{ 
>> [[$:/language]get[text]regexp[fr-FR]thenget[field-fr-fr]] 
>> [[$:/language]get[text]regexp[en-GB]thenget[field-en-gb]] 
>> }}} />
>>
>> [image: Screenshot 2021-07-13 9.55.44 AM.png]
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 7:06:15 AM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> Ciao cj.v
>>>
>>> It is not a silly question. It is helpful. Forces me to clarify.
>>>
>>> The situation is I have a gallery of 50+ images that each tiddler for 
>>> has four language fields for (German, English, Slovenian, Italian).
>>>
>>> What I am trying to sort out is WHETHER I should use BROWSER detection 
>>> of run context (which in TW ALSO means we can use [to a great extent?] the 
>>> "Info" plugin to ease its use) OR simply provide end users with a button on 
>>> startup to change what is shown.
>>>
>>> This is NOT really an issue about using the brilliant TW "lingo system" 
>>> because that relates most to UI elements. In the gallery those are MINIMAL 
>>> and it is not the issue.
>>>
>>> I am beginning to think I could use CSS to only show one language at a 
>>> time?
>>>
>>> Thankyou for your question! It pushed me on.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>> TT
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 02:19:05 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 G'day TT,

 Silly question: do you mean find out language setting chosen in TW, or 
 do you mean language setting for the browser?

 On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:45:22 PM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> This is merely an early query. I need some ideas on an efficient 
> approach to the following problem ...
>
> *AIM:* Put on-line the 54 images of "LIberty" by Angela Weyersberg 
> 
>  in 
> a self contained gallery.
>
> *THE CASE: *Each image of a painting has FOUR language variations for 
> its legend (English. Italian, Slovenian, German) FYI, the variants are 
> held 
> in fields of each image tiddler.
>
> *THE PROBLEM: *HOW do I in TW (1) Establish the language to invoke on 
> startup? (2) enable language switching?
>
> I realised the specific issue is not gonna be solved by the "lingo 
> mechanism" as is,  as in this particular case, its not UI buttons in 
> contest but actual content.
>
> I HOPE this is clear!
>
> At the moment I'm simply need some ideas about how to move forward.
> ANY ideas are most welcome
> TT
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [Seeking Ideas] Issues with a TW in four languages ...

[Télumire]

Hello TiddlyTweeter,

Expanding on cj.v elegant solution, you can also use a select widget if you 
dont want to download a language plugin :

<$select tiddler="$:/language">
 fr-FR
 en-GB



 <$text text={{{ 
[[$:/language]get[text]regexp[fr-FR]thenget[fr-fr]] 
[[$:/language]get[text]regexp[en-GB]thenget[en-gb]] }}} />

Online demo 
: 
https://telumire.github.io/TW-tips/#Conditional%20display%20based%20on%20language%20setting
Le mardi 13 juillet 2021 à 15:10:14 UTC+2, cj.v...@gmail.com a écrit :

> G'day TT,
>
> If adding language plugins and using TW's language button make for an 
> alright solution,  then checking the value of $:/language makes for an easy 
> way to set context based on currently selected language.
>
> It should be easy enough to show the language button anywhere you need it 
> for the sake of convenience.
>
> Then just a matter of showing image labels based on currently selected 
> language.  something like:
>  <$text text={{{ 
> [[$:/language]get[text]regexp[fr-FR]thenget[field-fr-fr]] 
> [[$:/language]get[text]regexp[en-GB]thenget[field-en-gb]] 
> }}} />
>
> [image: Screenshot 2021-07-13 9.55.44 AM.png]
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 7:06:15 AM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Ciao cj.v
>>
>> It is not a silly question. It is helpful. Forces me to clarify.
>>
>> The situation is I have a gallery of 50+ images that each tiddler for has 
>> four language fields for (German, English, Slovenian, Italian).
>>
>> What I am trying to sort out is WHETHER I should use BROWSER detection of 
>> run context (which in TW ALSO means we can use [to a great extent?] the 
>> "Info" plugin to ease its use) OR simply provide end users with a button on 
>> startup to change what is shown.
>>
>> This is NOT really an issue about using the brilliant TW "lingo system" 
>> because that relates most to UI elements. In the gallery those are MINIMAL 
>> and it is not the issue.
>>
>> I am beginning to think I could use CSS to only show one language at a 
>> time?
>>
>> Thankyou for your question! It pushed me on.
>>
>> Best wishes
>> TT
>>
>> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 02:19:05 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> G'day TT,
>>>
>>> Silly question: do you mean find out language setting chosen in TW, or 
>>> do you mean language setting for the browser?
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:45:22 PM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>
 This is merely an early query. I need some ideas on an efficient 
 approach to the following problem ...

 *AIM:* Put on-line the 54 images of "LIberty" by Angela Weyersberg 
 
  in 
 a self contained gallery.

 *THE CASE: *Each image of a painting has FOUR language variations for 
 its legend (English. Italian, Slovenian, German) FYI, the variants are 
 held 
 in fields of each image tiddler.

 *THE PROBLEM: *HOW do I in TW (1) Establish the language to invoke on 
 startup? (2) enable language switching?

 I realised the specific issue is not gonna be solved by the "lingo 
 mechanism" as is,  as in this particular case, its not UI buttons in 
 contest but actual content.

 I HOPE this is clear!

 At the moment I'm simply need some ideas about how to move forward.
 ANY ideas are most welcome
 TT



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[tw5] How to install plugins on TW node?

[Louis Davout]

I'm running TW 5.1.23 on node js and I want to install JD's Plain Revisions 
(http://j.d.revisions.tiddlyspot.com/). I've installed plugins that provide 
complete source like 
kookma's commander. Unfortunately JD only provides the drag and drop 
version. How do I properly install it on node for all my TW instances?

Thanks.


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Re: [tw5] Re: How to? " conflicts with wrap button

[David Gifford]

Thanks Mario! I only needed " not """, so I deleted the extra "" on each
and it works great!




On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:45 AM PMario  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Try this:
>
> <$action-sendmessage
> $message="tm-edit-text-operation"
> $param="wrap-selection"
> prefix='<$macrocall $name=det tid="""'
> suffix='"""/>'
> />
>
> It's possible to cover the parameters in single quotes.
>
> -mario
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[tw5] Re: How to? " conflicts with wrap button

[PMario]

Hi,

Try this: 

<$action-sendmessage
$message="tm-edit-text-operation"
$param="wrap-selection"
prefix='<$macrocall $name=det tid="""'
suffix='"""/>'
/>

It's possible to cover the parameters in single quotes. 

-mario

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Re: [tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[David Gifford]

Thanks Saq for giving me another option!




On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 9:08 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> Ouch that is annoying.
>
> One workaround would be:
>
> 
> <>
> <>
> <>
> 
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:52:28 PM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Thanks Saq.
>>
>> Doing it as <> turns it into a , which forces line breaks above
>> and below. Doing it as a macrocall lets me have each one on the next line.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-5 Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>>
>>> Looks spiffy. All this time talking about wanting an outliner in TW and
>>> you could have written it all along.
>>>
>>> Why
>>>
>>> <$macrocall $name=det tid="The relationship between the Old and New
>>> Testaments"/>
>>>
>>> instead of:
>>> <>
>>>
>>> Is it for the autocomplete support? If so, we might be able to do
>>> something about that.
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Saq
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 6:08:39 AM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone

 I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very helpful.
 Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes in the
 description.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo

 In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details
 element slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can be
 nested kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if there
 are more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant
 outline. And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the
 edit-comptext plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to autocomplete
 to create a det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.

 I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer
 feedback: https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html

 Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will make
 it available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration for you
 and feedback for me.

 Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave


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[tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[Saq Imtiaz]

Ouch that is annoying.

One workaround would be:


<>
<>
<>


On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 3:52:28 PM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:

> Thanks Saq. 
>
> Doing it as <> turns it into a , which forces line breaks above 
> and below. Doing it as a macrocall lets me have each one on the next line.
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-5 Saq Imtiaz wrote:
>
>> Looks spiffy. All this time talking about wanting an outliner in TW and 
>> you could have written it all along.
>>
>> Why
>>
>> <$macrocall $name=det tid="The relationship between the Old and New 
>> Testaments"/>
>>
>> instead of:
>> <>
>>
>> Is it for the autocomplete support? If so, we might be able to do 
>> something about that.
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Saq
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 6:08:39 AM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone
>>>
>>> I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very helpful. 
>>> Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes in the 
>>> description.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo
>>>
>>> In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details 
>>> element slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can be 
>>> nested kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if there 
>>> are more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant 
>>> outline. And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the 
>>> edit-comptext plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to autocomplete 
>>> to create a det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.
>>>
>>> I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer 
>>> feedback: https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html
>>>
>>> Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will make it 
>>> available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration for you and 
>>> feedback for me.
>>>
>>> Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[David Gifford]

Thanks Saq. 

Doing it as <> turns it into a , which forces line breaks above 
and below. Doing it as a macrocall lets me have each one on the next line.

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:46:48 AM UTC-5 Saq Imtiaz wrote:

> Looks spiffy. All this time talking about wanting an outliner in TW and 
> you could have written it all along.
>
> Why
>
> <$macrocall $name=det tid="The relationship between the Old and New 
> Testaments"/>
>
> instead of:
> <>
>
> Is it for the autocomplete support? If so, we might be able to do 
> something about that.
> Cheers,
>
> Saq
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 6:08:39 AM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very helpful. 
>> Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes in the 
>> description.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo
>>
>> In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details 
>> element slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can be 
>> nested kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if there 
>> are more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant 
>> outline. And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the 
>> edit-comptext plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to autocomplete 
>> to create a det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.
>>
>> I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer 
>> feedback: https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html
>>
>> Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will make it 
>> available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration for you and 
>> feedback for me.
>>
>> Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[David Gifford]

Thanks Charlie

Actually, the first line of this tiddler is what causes the det macro to 
relink: 
https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html#%24%3A%2F.giffmex%2FMacro%2FDet

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 8:25:05 AM UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> That is quite awesome, David.  I'm a huge fan of the HTML detail element.
>
> Total aside:  I am an even bigger fan of the Relink plugin.  It saves me 
> from, well, me.  Very nice how you've configured Relink to also check your 
> macros whenever you change a tiddler title.
>
> For anybody wondering what the heck I'm referring to:  
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fflibbles%2Frelink
>  *(look at the "configuration" tab)*
>
> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:08:39 AM UTC-3 David Gifford wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very helpful. 
>> Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes in the 
>> description.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo
>>
>> In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details 
>> element slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can be 
>> nested kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if there 
>> are more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant 
>> outline. And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the 
>> edit-comptext plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to autocomplete 
>> to create a det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.
>>
>> I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer 
>> feedback: https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html
>>
>> Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will make it 
>> available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration for you and 
>> feedback for me.
>>
>> Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[Saq Imtiaz]

Looks spiffy. All this time talking about wanting an outliner in TW and you 
could have written it all along.

Why

<$macrocall $name=det tid="The relationship between the Old and New 
Testaments"/>

instead of:
<>

Is it for the autocomplete support? If so, we might be able to do something 
about that.
Cheers,

Saq

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 6:08:39 AM UTC+2 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very helpful. 
> Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes in the 
> description.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo
>
> In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details element 
> slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can be nested 
> kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if there are 
> more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant outline. 
> And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the edit-comptext 
> plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to autocomplete to create a 
> det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.
>
> I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer feedback: 
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html
>
> Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will make it 
> available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration for you and 
> feedback for me.
>
> Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave
>
>
>

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[tw5] How to? " conflicts with wrap button

[David Gifford]

Hi everyone

I found a new obstacle to my quest to conquer the world! 

I would like the wrap below to have double quotes at the end of the prefix 
and the beginning of the suffix, but it is mistaking it four four double 
quotes . Howdo I work around this?

<$action-sendmessage
$message="tm-edit-text-operation"
$param="wrap-selection"
prefix="""<$macrocall $name=det tid="""
suffix="""/>"""
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[tw5] Re: Teaser of my macros

[Charlie Veniot]

That is quite awesome, David.  I'm a huge fan of the HTML detail element.

Total aside:  I am an even bigger fan of the Relink plugin.  It saves me 
from, well, me.  Very nice how you've configured Relink to also check your 
macros whenever you change a tiddler title.

For anybody wondering what the heck I'm referring to:  
https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Fflibbles%2Frelink
 *(look at the "configuration" tab)*

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 1:08:39 AM UTC-3 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi everyone
>
> I have been asking for help a few times, and you all were very helpful. 
> Here is the end result, shared as a silent video with notes in the 
> description.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk7MSQjaiuo
>
> In a nutshell, it is a macro I called 'det' that creates a details element 
> slider + link (asterisk) based on the tiddler title. These can be nested 
> kind of like Dynalist, so when you open one detail slider, if there are 
> more under that, you can open those sliders as well like a giant outline. 
> And the links are there to open at any level. I tweaked the edit-comptext 
> plugin with Saq's help, and so there is a way to autocomplete to create a 
> det macrocall around an existing tiddler title.
>
> I also uploaded an example file so you can test it out and offer feedback: 
> https://giffmex.org/experiments/det.teaser.html
>
> Maybe at some later point when I have used it for a while I will make it 
> available as a plugin. But for now it is just for inspiration for you and 
> feedback for me.
>
> Thank you for all of your help! I hope you enjoy it. Blessings, Dave
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: [Seeking Ideas] Issues with a TW in four languages ...

[Charlie Veniot]

G'day TT,

If adding language plugins and using TW's language button make for an 
alright solution,  then checking the value of $:/language makes for an easy 
way to set context based on currently selected language.

It should be easy enough to show the language button anywhere you need it 
for the sake of convenience.

Then just a matter of showing image labels based on currently selected 
language.  something like:
 <$text text={{{ 
[[$:/language]get[text]regexp[fr-FR]thenget[field-fr-fr]] 
[[$:/language]get[text]regexp[en-GB]thenget[field-en-gb]] 
}}} />

[image: Screenshot 2021-07-13 9.55.44 AM.png]

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 7:06:15 AM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao cj.v
>
> It is not a silly question. It is helpful. Forces me to clarify.
>
> The situation is I have a gallery of 50+ images that each tiddler for has 
> four language fields for (German, English, Slovenian, Italian).
>
> What I am trying to sort out is WHETHER I should use BROWSER detection of 
> run context (which in TW ALSO means we can use [to a great extent?] the 
> "Info" plugin to ease its use) OR simply provide end users with a button on 
> startup to change what is shown.
>
> This is NOT really an issue about using the brilliant TW "lingo system" 
> because that relates most to UI elements. In the gallery those are MINIMAL 
> and it is not the issue.
>
> I am beginning to think I could use CSS to only show one language at a 
> time?
>
> Thankyou for your question! It pushed me on.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 02:19:05 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> G'day TT,
>>
>> Silly question: do you mean find out language setting chosen in TW, or do 
>> you mean language setting for the browser?
>>
>> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:45:22 PM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>
>>> This is merely an early query. I need some ideas on an efficient 
>>> approach to the following problem ...
>>>
>>> *AIM:* Put on-line the 54 images of "LIberty" by Angela Weyersberg 
>>> 
>>>  in 
>>> a self contained gallery.
>>>
>>> *THE CASE: *Each image of a painting has FOUR language variations for 
>>> its legend (English. Italian, Slovenian, German) FYI, the variants are held 
>>> in fields of each image tiddler.
>>>
>>> *THE PROBLEM: *HOW do I in TW (1) Establish the language to invoke on 
>>> startup? (2) enable language switching?
>>>
>>> I realised the specific issue is not gonna be solved by the "lingo 
>>> mechanism" as is,  as in this particular case, its not UI buttons in 
>>> contest but actual content.
>>>
>>> I HOPE this is clear!
>>>
>>> At the moment I'm simply need some ideas about how to move forward.
>>> ANY ideas are most welcome
>>> TT
>>>
>>>

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[tw5] Re: Just the UI of tiddlywiki

[PMario]

Hi Xavier,

You may have a closer look at: 
https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/tiddlyweb/TiddlyWeb

An overview may be found at: 
https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/tiddlyweb/TiddlyWeb

tank .. is a project from Chris Dent  the creator 
of all the TiddlyWeb python code. 
He runs those pages. .. So the best way would probably be to contact him. 
He can tell you where to start in a much better way than I do. 

https://github.com/tiddlyweb  ... see: TiddlyWeb repo
and http://tiddlyweb.com/ 
and https://pypi.org/project/tiddlyweb/

There is an API explorer https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/tiddlyweb/explorer

BUT ... This version of tiddlyweb was created for TiddlyWiki 2 now also 
known as: TiddlyWikiClassic or TWc

TiddlyWeb has much more possibilities than we use with the node-js version 
at the moment. 

So definitely try to contact Chris.

have fun!
mario

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[tw5] Re: [Seeking Ideas] Issues with a TW in four languages ...

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Tony

Thanks for your comment. Declaring the language in the  
won't help as what we have here is a MIXED language scenario. One wiki, 
four languages.

I'm trying to work through whether any kind of "online status detection" 
would actually work, or whether (looking more likely now after some useful 
comments) I simply need the user to click a language choice on open?

But it is still all tentative.
Best wishes
TT

On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 01:49:26 UTC+2 TW Tones wrote:

> TT,
>
> I agree it would make sense for this info to appear in the $:/info 
> mechanism but I think there may be other ways.  
>
> The html document itself supposed to declare the language as here 
> https://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_language_codes.asp and browsers do 
> maintain the language settings as we move around the internet. This would 
> include country codes https://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_country_codes.asp. 
>
>
> I just point this out as it would seem the css html model should allow 
> this information to be found.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
>
> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 05:45:52 UTC+10 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> Ciao PMario
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> I can maybe rephrase part of it. 
>>
>>* Q: Could I use the "info" plugin to feed "start-up" actions 
>> to establish which country/language the wiki is being opened in?*
>>
>> Just a stab in the dark! :-)
>> TT
>>
>> On Monday, 12 July 2021 at 20:22:07 UTC+2 PMario wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, 
>>> I was working on multi-language plugins. So the texts could be 
>>> language-plugins which switch with the language. ... 
>>>
>>> The problem I have atm is, that the plugin import dialogue wikitext is 
>>> frustratingly complicated, which slows down the progress quite a bit. 
>>>
>>> -mario
>>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: [Seeking Ideas] Issues with a TW in four languages ...

[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao cj.v

It is not a silly question. It is helpful. Forces me to clarify.

The situation is I have a gallery of 50+ images that each tiddler for has 
four language fields for (German, English, Slovenian, Italian).

What I am trying to sort out is WHETHER I should use BROWSER detection of 
run context (which in TW ALSO means we can use [to a great extent?] the 
"Info" plugin to ease its use) OR simply provide end users with a button on 
startup to change what is shown.

This is NOT really an issue about using the brilliant TW "lingo system" 
because that relates most to UI elements. In the gallery those are MINIMAL 
and it is not the issue.

I am beginning to think I could use CSS to only show one language at a time?

Thankyou for your question! It pushed me on.

Best wishes
TT

On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 02:19:05 UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

> G'day TT,
>
> Silly question: do you mean find out language setting chosen in TW, or do 
> you mean language setting for the browser?
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 2:45:22 PM UTC-3 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>
>> This is merely an early query. I need some ideas on an efficient approach 
>> to the following problem ...
>>
>> *AIM:* Put on-line the 54 images of "LIberty" by Angela Weyersberg 
>> 
>>  in 
>> a self contained gallery.
>>
>> *THE CASE: *Each image of a painting has FOUR language variations for 
>> its legend (English. Italian, Slovenian, German) FYI, the variants are held 
>> in fields of each image tiddler.
>>
>> *THE PROBLEM: *HOW do I in TW (1) Establish the language to invoke on 
>> startup? (2) enable language switching?
>>
>> I realised the specific issue is not gonna be solved by the "lingo 
>> mechanism" as is,  as in this particular case, its not UI buttons in 
>> contest but actual content.
>>
>> I HOPE this is clear!
>>
>> At the moment I'm simply need some ideas about how to move forward.
>> ANY ideas are most welcome
>> TT
>>
>>

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[tw5] Just the UI of tiddlywiki

[Xavier B.]

Hi,

I'm just a user of tiddlywiki. My programming skils are low overall in 
Javascript but I have enough skills in python. I would like to write some 
wiki server there in python but with the tiddlywiki interface. I love it: 
when ypu type a link, then a new tiddler appears inmediately in the same 
page: and I love the search function too.

I just want to pick up this too features of tiddlywiki. Where should I look 
into the code for find this? There is no documentation all bunch of code do.

Thanks in advance,
Xavier

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Re: [tw5] Re: Is there a way to automatically save changes on TiddlyWiki?

[Alessandra Carnevale]

Great, thanks again!

On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 4:33 PM PMario  wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:36:52 AM UTC+2 arlandri...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Really sorry if I replied so late. I had a problem with my PC, this time
>> not related to Tiddly Wiki :D
>> This evening I will try your auto-save plug-in.
>> At the moment, the only plug-in I have is Tiddly-Wiki 5 core.
>> Anyway, when I imported my wiki the text that it wasn't imported was
>> already there.
>> When I first imported the wiki, as I told you, I didn't have the
>> "disappering" issue, but in the recent days when I am using my PC again,
>> the scarying behaviour has occured again.
>> So I don't really get the problem.
>>
>
> Hi,
> I did reply to your private mail and I'm confident, that my guesses are
> right. ...
> Please let me know, if I am right :)
> When we are sure we sorted it out, we'll let the other know.
> -mario
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[tw5] Re: How to make a more convenient method for selecting tags?

[Mike Andyl]

https://i.imgur.com/Q1wXDdQ.jpg
Turn on Sticky titles 

  
-  yes 

/* TAG SELECTOR */
.tc-block-tags-dropdown{
white-space: normal;
min-width: 620px !important;
}
.tc-block-tags-dropdown a {
display: inline-block !important;
padding: 4px 4px 4px 4px !important;
}
.tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
   position: fixed;
   top: 100px;
   right: 40px;
   bottom: 200px;
   width: 30em;
   overflow-y: auto;
}



вторник, 13 июля 2021 г. в 03:15:23 UTC+3, Brian Radspinner: 

> That's interesting. Testing at TW.com and in my own TW, the menu floats 
> above other tiddlers.
>
> Do you have any other CSS positioning for .tc-tiddler-frame, 
> .tc-tiddler-view-frame, or .tc-tiddler-edit-frame?
>
>
> On Monday, July 12, 2021 at 4:43:01 PM UTC-7 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Everything would be fine, but I discovered a new problem. This tags 
>> window is covered by other entries. It can be fixed? I've experimented with 
>> z-index but to no avail.
>> https://i.imgur.com/CZOVn6A.jpg
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 16:48:00 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>
>>> or even overflow-y: auto;
>>>
>>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:37:08 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>>>
 and may be add *overflow: scroll;*  :))
 воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 14:30:31 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 

> I don't know why your post was deleted. Possibly a spam error! I also 
> had this a couple of days ago :(
> You wrote about CSS
>
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 0;
>right: 0;
>bottom: 0;
>width: 30em;
> }
>
> I changed and now I really like it!
>
> .tc-edit-tags .tc-block-dropdown.tc-block-tags-dropdown {
>position: fixed;
>top: 100px;
>right: 40px;
>bottom: 200px;
>width: 30em;
> }
>
> Now you can just poke at the tags, the already selected ones are 
> hidden and do not distract, and the window does not jump. And you don't 
> have to search again every time.
> Not bad and very convenient!
>
> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:56:13 UTC+3, Mike Andyl: 
>
>> Okay, but the last problem remains. 
>> How to make *popup **tag-picker *not move after clicking on the tag, 
>> only in the vertical direction. It doesn't have to jump to a different 
>> place every time!
>> This is how it works
>> http://tw5magick.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> This is very convenient when you do not need to search for the next 
>> tag every time. It is strange that such an important part is in such a 
>> terrible state!
>>
>> воскресенье, 11 июля 2021 г. в 02:29:12 UTC+3, David Gifford: 
>>
>>> Here is an easy way, just a simple stylesheet. 
>>> https://giffmex.org/gifts/documenting.tw.html#Tag%20editor%20dropdown
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 9, 2021 at 4:10:15 PM UTC-5 miket...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags 
 and need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags 
 are 
 still on the list and continue to distract.

 This raises two questions?

 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I 
 don't have to scroll down the page?

 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove 
 from the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least 
 change 
 the color to a less noticeable?

 Any ideas?

 Nice option with checkboxes here
 https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
 http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/

 But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
 nothing changed.
>>>
>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Is there a way to automatically save changes on TiddlyWiki?

[PMario]

On Tuesday, July 13, 2021 at 5:36:52 AM UTC+2 arlandri...@gmail.com wrote:

> Really sorry if I replied so late. I had a problem with my PC, this time 
> not related to Tiddly Wiki :D 
> This evening I will try your auto-save plug-in.
> At the moment, the only plug-in I have is Tiddly-Wiki 5 core.
> Anyway, when I imported my wiki the text that it wasn't imported was 
> already there.
> When I first imported the wiki, as I told you, I didn't have the  
> "disappering" issue, but in the recent days when I am using my PC again, 
> the scarying behaviour has occured again.
> So I don't really get the problem.
>

Hi, 
I did reply to your private mail and I'm confident, that my guesses are 
right. ... 
Please let me know, if I am right :)
When we are sure we sorted it out, we'll let the other know. 
-mario

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