[tw5] Re: New Release Banner Super-speedy Competition for v5.2.1

[Atronoush]

Hi Jeremy,
 Most users are now on Talk! Is there any reason you have sent this 
important post here in old forum!
 I cannot to reply through Talk and I have to open the old page and reply 
here!
 This page is not mobile friendly and I like to use Talk!

Thank you!
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 9:06:36 PM UTC+3:30 jeremy...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> As usual, I’d like to hold a competition to design the banner image that 
> is shown on the splash screen and within the opening HelloThere tiddler.
>
> The unusual thing this time around is that we have very limited time. Due 
> to a serious bug introduced by the latest version of Chrome we are trying 
> to get v5.2.1 released as soon as possible, perhaps as soon as this weekend.
>
> With that in mind, we’ll have to run the competition slightly differently 
> this time:
>
>- Entries will be accepted until Friday morning at 8am UK time
>- To speed things up, my plan is that I should choose the winning 
>image (I’m open to discussion here!)
>
> The artwork should reflect some of the changes in the new version. I’ve 
> updated the release note for the prerelease but at this point the 
> documentation for some of the new features is not complete.
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>
> The other rules/guidelines for the competition are:
>
>- The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
>readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>- The image must be a PNG or JPEG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>- The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text 
>“What’s new in 5.2.1” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>- The image need not include the word “TiddlyWiki”. The banner image 
>is only used in contexts where it is clear that it is about TiddlyWiki
>- Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a 
>runner-up in a previous competition
>- Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>- Please give lots of feedback here to encourage the artists
>
> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>
> v5.2.0 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/eccIEHZoxsI/m/JpxoQdZrAwAJ
> v5.1.23 - https://groups.google.com/g/
> tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
> v5.1.22 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
> v5.1.21 - 
> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>
> The Chrome bug I was referring to is discussed here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/6254
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/6261
>
> Plans for the v5.2.1 release are being discussed here:
>
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/6259
>
> Best wishes and many thanks,
>
> Jeremy
>

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[tw5] Re: New Release Banner Super-speedy Competition for v5.2.1

[Atronoush]

> Atro, I'm happy to do so, as a matter of keeping our community archive 
> running. So, hereby DONE:
>
> https://tw-logo-contest.tiddlyhost.com/
>
>
Wonderful! I really like your logo wiki!

Best wishes
Atro

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[tw5] Re: New Release Banner Super-speedy Competition for v5.2.1

[Atronoush]

@Springer
Is there a chance to add the candidate logos to your nice wiki like 
previous competitions?

Thank you

On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 1:41:30 AM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> Here's my hasty contribution (with a couple minor glitches fixed):
>
> [image: tw-blue-nametag5-2-1.png]
>
> On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 12:36:36 PM UTC-5 jeremy...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> As usual, I’d like to hold a competition to design the banner image that 
>> is shown on the splash screen and within the opening HelloThere tiddler.
>>
>> The unusual thing this time around is that we have very limited time. Due 
>> to a serious bug introduced by the latest version of Chrome we are trying 
>> to get v5.2.1 released as soon as possible, perhaps as soon as this weekend.
>>
>> With that in mind, we’ll have to run the competition slightly differently 
>> this time:
>>
>>- Entries will be accepted until Friday morning at 8am UK time
>>- To speed things up, my plan is that I should choose the winning 
>>image (I’m open to discussion here!)
>>
>> The artwork should reflect some of the changes in the new version. I’ve 
>> updated the release note for the prerelease but at this point the 
>> documentation for some of the new features is not complete.
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/
>>
>> The other rules/guidelines for the competition are:
>>
>>- The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
>>readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>>- The image must be a PNG or JPEG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>>- The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text 
>>“What’s new in 5.2.1” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>>- The image need not include the word “TiddlyWiki”. The banner image 
>>is only used in contexts where it is clear that it is about TiddlyWiki
>>- Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a 
>>runner-up in a previous competition
>>- Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>>- Please give lots of feedback here to encourage the artists
>>
>> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>>
>> v5.2.0 - 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/eccIEHZoxsI/m/JpxoQdZrAwAJ
>> v5.1.23 - https://groups.google.com/g/
>> tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ
>> v5.1.22 - 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
>> v5.1.21 - 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>>
>> The Chrome bug I was referring to is discussed here:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/6254
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/6261
>>
>> Plans for the v5.2.1 release are being discussed here:
>>
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/6259
>>
>> Best wishes and many thanks,
>>
>> Jeremy
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Introduce Fishing, spaced repetition and active recall plugin for TiddlyWiki

[Atronoush]

[image: img_375_chrome.png]

Image attached again! I do not know what the image is missing in previous 
post while I inserted it!


On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 9:17:40 AM UTC+4:30 Atronoush wrote:

> Thank you Oflg.
>
> What are these Tips, Usage in the below image?
> Do you use them to categorize cards? how do you create these?
>
>
>
>
> Hi, Atronoush
>> The fishponds are not created but automatically generated.
>>
>> When you add 'Fish' to a tiddler, it will be grouped into 'new, all' 
>> fishpond. 
>> After you revise it once at 'new, all' fishpond, it will be grouped into 
>> old  fishpond. 
>> After that it will be automatically grouped into 'overdue, due, undue' at 
>> a scheduled time, depending on the the difficulty button you click.
>>
>> Thanks
>> 在2021年8月3日星期二 UTC+8 上午3:31:33 写道：
>>
>>> Lovely Oflg,
>>>  I like the colored easy, hard, 
>>>
>>> One question, how do you create the fishing pond?
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 5:41:58 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, Atronoush
>>>>
>>>> Ha, I like that collapse button. It's a system component, so everyone 
>>>> can simply understand what it does. And it was one of the inspirations for 
>>>> this plugin.
>>>>
>>>> I've changed the cat-face difficulty button to text, and modified the 
>>>> "all, overdue" prompt.
>>>>
>>>> Check out the new version at  https://oflg.github.io/fishing/  !
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your suggestion.
>>>> 在2021年8月1日星期日 UTC+8 下午8:42:37 写道：
>>>>
>>>>> Ah, just to correct myself. 
>>>>> I saw you have used easy difficult button at the right bottom of 
>>>>> tiddlers!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 5:11:12 PM UTC+4:30 Atronoush wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Oflg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I love the simplicity. The learning curve is very short!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just some few comments
>>>>>> 1. the plugin uses the system wide fold button to hide the content of 
>>>>>> tiddler, so if I wish to install the plugin in my current wiki and and 
>>>>>> not 
>>>>>> use the folding for other tiddlers, this make problem for fishing plugin
>>>>>> I think there are many good tools/solution out there to hide 
>>>>>> /show/slide body of a tiddler tagged with Fishing.
>>>>>> look at Thomas Elmiger details widget or Shiraz (by kookma) display 
>>>>>> on demand
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. It is good to add more explanation one can understand difference 
>>>>>> between new, all. overdue, ...
>>>>>> 3. There is another plugin by James Anderson (
>>>>>> http://welford.github.io/twsr.html) it uses easy / difficult buttons 
>>>>>> which may be useful here
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for all your talent and effort! Please keep going on with 
>>>>>> this simple and very useful plugin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --Atro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 3:50:52 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am glad to create a flashcard plugin for TiddlyWiki - Fishing, 
>>>>>>> which makes remembering tiddler more efficient. It's designed to be 
>>>>>>> simple 
>>>>>>> and easy, without the need to switch to any external system like Anki, 
>>>>>>> all 
>>>>>>> you need to do is simply add tag 'Fish' to the tiddler you want to 
>>>>>>> remember.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been using it for a few weeks now and would like to share it 
>>>>>>> with TiddlyWiki Lovers and get some requests and feedback on 
>>>>>>> improvements. 
>>>>>>> Welcome to submit issues in GitHub 
>>>>>>> <https://github.com/oflg/fishing/issues>, check it out and install 
>>>>>>> it from https://oflg.github.io/fishing/. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Screenshots:
>>>>>>> [image: Fishing.png]
>>>>>>> [image: fold.png]
>>>>>>> [image: unfold.png]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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[tw5] Re: Introduce Fishing, spaced repetition and active recall plugin for TiddlyWiki

[Atronoush]

One more suggestion

Soren has developed a nice Q and cloze tools used in his Zettelkasten, 
but I think they use Anki.
Can Fishing have a similar Q where answer can have such easy hard again, 
... feature

see TiddlyRemember 
  https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/#TiddlyRemember

On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 3:50:52 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am glad to create a flashcard plugin for TiddlyWiki - Fishing, which 
> makes remembering tiddler more efficient. It's designed to be simple and 
> easy, without the need to switch to any external system like Anki, all you 
> need to do is simply add tag 'Fish' to the tiddler you want to remember.
>
> I have been using it for a few weeks now and would like to share it with 
> TiddlyWiki Lovers and get some requests and feedback on improvements. 
> Welcome to submit issues in GitHub 
> , check it out and install it 
> from https://oflg.github.io/fishing/. 
>
> 
>
> Screenshots:
> [image: Fishing.png]
> [image: fold.png]
> [image: unfold.png]
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Introduce Fishing, spaced repetition and active recall plugin for TiddlyWiki

[Atronoush]

Thank you Oflg.

What are these Tips, Usage in the below image?
Do you use them to categorize cards? how do you create these?



On Tuesday, August 3, 2021 at 4:23:07 AM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, Atronoush
> The fishponds are not created but automatically generated.
>
> When you add 'Fish' to a tiddler, it will be grouped into 'new, all' 
> fishpond. 
> After you revise it once at 'new, all' fishpond, it will be grouped into 
> old  fishpond. 
> After that it will be automatically grouped into 'overdue, due, undue' at 
> a scheduled time, depending on the the difficulty button you click.
>
> Thanks
> 在2021年8月3日星期二 UTC+8 上午3:31:33 写道：
>
>> Lovely Oflg,
>>  I like the colored easy, hard, 
>>
>> One question, how do you create the fishing pond?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 5:41:58 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Atronoush
>>>
>>> Ha, I like that collapse button. It's a system component, so everyone 
>>> can simply understand what it does. And it was one of the inspirations for 
>>> this plugin.
>>>
>>> I've changed the cat-face difficulty button to text, and modified the 
>>> "all, overdue" prompt.
>>>
>>> Check out the new version at  https://oflg.github.io/fishing/  !
>>>
>>> Thanks for your suggestion.
>>> 在2021年8月1日星期日 UTC+8 下午8:42:37 写道：
>>>
>>>> Ah, just to correct myself. 
>>>> I saw you have used easy difficult button at the right bottom of 
>>>> tiddlers!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 5:11:12 PM UTC+4:30 Atronoush wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Oflg
>>>>>
>>>>> I love the simplicity. The learning curve is very short!
>>>>>
>>>>> just some few comments
>>>>> 1. the plugin uses the system wide fold button to hide the content of 
>>>>> tiddler, so if I wish to install the plugin in my current wiki and and 
>>>>> not 
>>>>> use the folding for other tiddlers, this make problem for fishing plugin
>>>>> I think there are many good tools/solution out there to hide 
>>>>> /show/slide body of a tiddler tagged with Fishing.
>>>>> look at Thomas Elmiger details widget or Shiraz (by kookma) display on 
>>>>> demand
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. It is good to add more explanation one can understand difference 
>>>>> between new, all. overdue, ...
>>>>> 3. There is another plugin by James Anderson (
>>>>> http://welford.github.io/twsr.html) it uses easy / difficult buttons 
>>>>> which may be useful here
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for all your talent and effort! Please keep going on with 
>>>>> this simple and very useful plugin
>>>>>
>>>>> --Atro
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 3:50:52 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am glad to create a flashcard plugin for TiddlyWiki - Fishing, 
>>>>>> which makes remembering tiddler more efficient. It's designed to be 
>>>>>> simple 
>>>>>> and easy, without the need to switch to any external system like Anki, 
>>>>>> all 
>>>>>> you need to do is simply add tag 'Fish' to the tiddler you want to 
>>>>>> remember.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been using it for a few weeks now and would like to share it 
>>>>>> with TiddlyWiki Lovers and get some requests and feedback on 
>>>>>> improvements. 
>>>>>> Welcome to submit issues in GitHub 
>>>>>> <https://github.com/oflg/fishing/issues>, check it out and install 
>>>>>> it from https://oflg.github.io/fishing/. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Screenshots:
>>>>>> [image: Fishing.png]
>>>>>> [image: fold.png]
>>>>>> [image: unfold.png]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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[tw5] Re: Introduce Fishing, spaced repetition and active recall plugin for TiddlyWiki

[Atronoush]

Lovely Oflg,
 I like the colored easy, hard, 

One question, how do you create the fishing pond?

Thank you

On Monday, August 2, 2021 at 5:41:58 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, Atronoush
>
> Ha, I like that collapse button. It's a system component, so everyone can 
> simply understand what it does. And it was one of the inspirations for this 
> plugin.
>
> I've changed the cat-face difficulty button to text, and modified the 
> "all, overdue" prompt.
>
> Check out the new version at  https://oflg.github.io/fishing/  !
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.
> 在2021年8月1日星期日 UTC+8 下午8:42:37 写道：
>
>> Ah, just to correct myself. 
>> I saw you have used easy difficult button at the right bottom of tiddlers!
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 5:11:12 PM UTC+4:30 Atronoush wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Oflg
>>>
>>> I love the simplicity. The learning curve is very short!
>>>
>>> just some few comments
>>> 1. the plugin uses the system wide fold button to hide the content of 
>>> tiddler, so if I wish to install the plugin in my current wiki and and not 
>>> use the folding for other tiddlers, this make problem for fishing plugin
>>> I think there are many good tools/solution out there to hide /show/slide 
>>> body of a tiddler tagged with Fishing.
>>> look at Thomas Elmiger details widget or Shiraz (by kookma) display on 
>>> demand
>>>
>>> 2. It is good to add more explanation one can understand difference 
>>> between new, all. overdue, ...
>>> 3. There is another plugin by James Anderson (
>>> http://welford.github.io/twsr.html) it uses easy / difficult buttons 
>>> which may be useful here
>>>
>>> Thank you for all your talent and effort! Please keep going on with this 
>>> simple and very useful plugin
>>>
>>> --Atro
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 3:50:52 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am glad to create a flashcard plugin for TiddlyWiki - Fishing, which 
>>>> makes remembering tiddler more efficient. It's designed to be simple and 
>>>> easy, without the need to switch to any external system like Anki, all you 
>>>> need to do is simply add tag 'Fish' to the tiddler you want to remember.
>>>>
>>>> I have been using it for a few weeks now and would like to share it 
>>>> with TiddlyWiki Lovers and get some requests and feedback on improvements. 
>>>> Welcome to submit issues in GitHub 
>>>> <https://github.com/oflg/fishing/issues>, check it out and install it 
>>>> from https://oflg.github.io/fishing/. 
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Screenshots:
>>>> [image: Fishing.png]
>>>> [image: fold.png]
>>>> [image: unfold.png]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: list tiddlers title with a delimiter (a character between items) resulting from a complex filter

[Atronoush Parsi]

Thank you all! Many useful things to learn!

@Eric,
I go with the $set widget solution, for me it is simpler and as you
explained seems to have the better performance!

Cheers
Atro

On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 6:02 AM Eric Shulman  wrote:

> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 9:48:12 AM UTC-7 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> I am sure this has been addressed before but I cannot find it in forum
>> Assume you have a complex filter that results in an output containing few
>> tiddlers. Then you want to show them with a delimiter e.g. pipe (|)
>> One solution is below. I am looking for a more efficient solution! I
>> assume here TW makes the search two times! I know we can use a $set widget
>> here, but what better solution do you propose?
>>
>
> Overall, an interesting challenge in TiddlyWiki filtering.
> I had fun trying several approaches...
>
> The most efficient one is to use $set, as you suggested, like this:
> <$set name="out" filter="[tag[HelloThere]] [tag[About]] [tag[Platforms]]">
> <$list filter="[enlistbutlast[]]"><$link/> | 
> <$list filter="[enlistlast[]]   "><$link/>   
> 
> The improvement is that the filter is only evaluated once, with two
> enlist[] operators added.  Depending upon how many matching tiddlers are
> found, and assuming a reasonably short list, the enlist[] operators are
> likely to be more efficient than evaluating the filter twice.  Also, note
> the use of -[last[]] in your initial post is incorrect... it doesn't
> actually remove the final item. The correct operator to use is butlast[],
> as shown above.
>
> I also tried this:
> <$set name=out filter="[tag[HelloThere]] [tag[About]] [tag[Platforms]]">
> <$vars last={{{ [enlistlast[]] }}}>
> <$list filter="[enlist]"><$link/> <$text text={{{
> [!matchthen[|]] }}}/> 
> 
> 
> The improvement here is the same as above, except that uses an extra
> variable ("last") and an inline filter to decide when to insert the "|"
> between items, so it's obviously a bit less efficient.
>
> Lastly, I tried this:
> <$vars lb="[[" rb="]]">
> <$set name=out filter="[tag[HelloThere]] [tag[About]] [tag[Platforms]]">
> <$wikify name="out" text="""<$list
> filter="[enlistaddprefixaddsuffixjoin[ | ]trim[ | ]]"
> ><$link/>""">
><>
> 
> 
> 
> Of course, this is even less efficient than the previous solutions, as it
> uses wikify to produce the output, and needs to explicitly add brackets
> around the links.  However, it does demonstrate the use of join[] and
> trim[] to insert the "|" between items.
>
> -e
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: list tiddlers title with a delimiter (a character between items) resulting from a complex filter

[Atronoush Parsi]

Mario,
 These filters are placed inside some other *$list*, I also changed it for
this question. I write the question here in a simpler way

<$list filter="[tag[foo]] [tag[bar]] [tag[tw]]"><$link/> | 

The purpose is to generate

Tid One | Tid Two | Tid Three

the above code adds | to the end of the list and I do not want that!

--Atro

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:21 PM PMario  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I don't understand the purpose. all[current] will only return 1 title. The
> currentTiddler. So why do you use [last[]] here?
>
> -mario
>
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[tw5] list tiddlers title with a delimiter (a character between items) resulting from a complex filter

[Atronoush Parsi]

I am sure this has been addressed before but I cannot find it in forum

Assume you have a complexe filter that results in an output containing few
tiddlers. Then you want to show them with a delimiter e.g. pipe (|)
One solution is below. I am looking for a more efficient solution! I assume
here TW makes the search two times! I know we can use a $set widget here,
but what better solution do you propose?

<$list filter="[all[current]!is[system]has[one]]
[all[current]!is[system]has[two]] [all[current]search:text[three]
-[last[]]"><$link/> | <$list
filter="[all[current]!is[system]has[one]]
[all[current]!is[system]has[two]] [all[current]search:text[three]
+[last[]]"><$link/>

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[tw5] Re: Introduce Fishing, spaced repetition and active recall plugin for TiddlyWiki

[Atronoush]

Ah, just to correct myself. 
I saw you have used easy difficult button at the right bottom of tiddlers!

Thank you

On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 5:11:12 PM UTC+4:30 Atronoush wrote:

> Hi Oflg
>
> I love the simplicity. The learning curve is very short!
>
> just some few comments
> 1. the plugin uses the system wide fold button to hide the content of 
> tiddler, so if I wish to install the plugin in my current wiki and and not 
> use the folding for other tiddlers, this make problem for fishing plugin
> I think there are many good tools/solution out there to hide /show/slide 
> body of a tiddler tagged with Fishing.
> look at Thomas Elmiger details widget or Shiraz (by kookma) display on 
> demand
>
> 2. It is good to add more explanation one can understand difference 
> between new, all. overdue, ...
> 3. There is another plugin by James Anderson (
> http://welford.github.io/twsr.html) it uses easy / difficult buttons 
> which may be useful here
>
> Thank you for all your talent and effort! Please keep going on with this 
> simple and very useful plugin
>
> --Atro
>
> On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 3:50:52 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I am glad to create a flashcard plugin for TiddlyWiki - Fishing, which 
>> makes remembering tiddler more efficient. It's designed to be simple and 
>> easy, without the need to switch to any external system like Anki, all you 
>> need to do is simply add tag 'Fish' to the tiddler you want to remember.
>>
>> I have been using it for a few weeks now and would like to share it with 
>> TiddlyWiki Lovers and get some requests and feedback on improvements. 
>> Welcome to submit issues in GitHub 
>> <https://github.com/oflg/fishing/issues>, check it out and install it 
>> from https://oflg.github.io/fishing/. 
>>
>> 
>>
>> Screenshots:
>> [image: Fishing.png]
>> [image: fold.png]
>> [image: unfold.png]
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: Introduce Fishing, spaced repetition and active recall plugin for TiddlyWiki

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Hi Oflg

I love the simplicity. The learning curve is very short!

just some few comments
1. the plugin uses the system wide fold button to hide the content of 
tiddler, so if I wish to install the plugin in my current wiki and and not 
use the folding for other tiddlers, this make problem for fishing plugin
I think there are many good tools/solution out there to hide /show/slide 
body of a tiddler tagged with Fishing.
look at Thomas Elmiger details widget or Shiraz (by kookma) display on 
demand

2. It is good to add more explanation one can understand difference between 
new, all. overdue, ...
3. There is another plugin by James Anderson 
(http://welford.github.io/twsr.html) it uses easy / difficult buttons which 
may be useful here

Thank you for all your talent and effort! Please keep going on with this 
simple and very useful plugin

--Atro

On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 3:50:52 PM UTC+4:30 oflg...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am glad to create a flashcard plugin for TiddlyWiki - Fishing, which 
> makes remembering tiddler more efficient. It's designed to be simple and 
> easy, without the need to switch to any external system like Anki, all you 
> need to do is simply add tag 'Fish' to the tiddler you want to remember.
>
> I have been using it for a few weeks now and would like to share it with 
> TiddlyWiki Lovers and get some requests and feedback on improvements. 
> Welcome to submit issues in GitHub 
> , check it out and install it 
> from https://oflg.github.io/fishing/. 
>
> 
>
> Screenshots:
> [image: Fishing.png]
> [image: fold.png]
> [image: unfold.png]
>
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Katex and TiddlyWiki: Some syntax does not work

[Atronoush Parsi]

@PMario Thank you for help and ticket on GitHub
Yes, please! Hope it gets updated for TW 5.2.0 release! I think TW 5.1.23
would not get the update

@Si - I did not know this I just looked the KaTex help page and try to
implement the examples

@Pak - Thank you! While align does not work with current TW+KaTex 0.12 but
amazingly aligned worked ;-)

Thank you all

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 5:18 PM PMario  wrote:

> Hi
> I did create an issue:
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/5907
> -m
>
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 2:39:05 PM UTC+2 PMario wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> It seems {align} support started with KaTex 0.13.0 ... The version used
>> in TW is 0.12.0 which is about 1 year old.
>> So we will probably need to make an update.
>> -mario
>>
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[tw5] Katex and TiddlyWiki: Some syntax does not work

[Atronoush Parsi]

Testing in Tiddlywiki 5.1.23

https://tiddlywiki.com/plugins/tiddlywiki/katex/

Some example of KaTex:Supported Functions · KaTeX


like

\begin{align}
   a&=b+c \\
   d+e&=f
\end{align}


return errors! Is there any setting I missed or Tiddlywiki does not support
these features?

Mor example which do not work:

$$
\begin{equation}
\begin{split}   a &=b+c\\
  &=e+f
\end{split}
\end{equation}
$$

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[tw5] Tag cloud using colors: idea and issues

[Atronoush]

There are some tag cloud tools around (e.g. Eric uses size and Mohammad use 
badge).
I like to have tag cloud based on color!

IDEA
i.  a macro to get a number and generate a color, I call it *colgen*
this is easy! in surface plots / contour plots we use color bars! here 
different color tables can be used in form of macro or dictionary tiddler

ii. a variable to calculate the number of tiddlers (e.g using $count) 
tagged with say *foo*

How it works
1. each time a new tiddler is tagged with foo the variable value is 
increased by one
2. this value is passed to *colgen* macro to generate color
3. this color is dynamically used for tag

you can use different color tables/bar for example red for high and blue 
for low (rainbow color table), ...


ISSUE
Tiddlywiki allow to use macros and transclusion in fields! BUT it seems it 
does not allow to change color dynamically!


I appreciate to have your idea, solution, codes, ...

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Re: [tw5] Table displayed in single line unless forcing display: table-row

[Atronoush Parsi]

On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 3:51 PM Sebastián Ortega <
mehequedadoenbla...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello!
> Thanks to the great Soren's book I'm getting deeper into customizing my
> wiki. I'm adding a table with some metadata in tiddlers tagged with Author
> but, for reasons unknown to me, such table gets flattened into a single
> line unless I force display: table-row manually.
>
> This is what I've added to the view template:
>
> <$list filter="[all[current]tag[Author]]">
> 
>   
> 
>

you meanNationality
>
Does html 5 recommend align? or css is recommende?

>   
>   <$list filter={{!!nationality}} emptyMessage="Unknown"><>
> 
>   
> 
>
> 
>class="icon">{{$:/core/images/info-button}} Areas
>   <$list filter={{!!area}}><> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
>
> So I get this:
> [image: Screenshot 2021-05-31 at 13.18.51.png]
>
> But if I dare to remove the forced table-row:
> [image: Screenshot 2021-05-31 at 13.20.16.png]
>
> Do you know why this is happening? What can I be doing wrong?
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[tw5] Your main Tags - Your main Tabs

[Atronoush Parsi]

Recently there were some interesting discussions on better utilizing
Tiddlywiki for Personal Knowledge Management (PKM)

Tiddlywiki is an amazing tool, but one quickly lost in the jungle of
tiddlers, tags, tabs, etc...
You can easily add tags, tabs, tiddlers, ... Tiddlywiki tends very much to
increase its entropy!

Example:
I do not know if I should tag *link* anything I find from the internet and
add to my wiki, or tag it as a *reference*?
Should I add a sidebar Tab as soon as I have several tiddlers on the same
topic or not?

Soren in his Zettelkasten shows some workflow for this! I wish to know how
I can effectively use Tiddlywiki as PKM?

- Do you recommend some main tags?
- Do you recommend limiting the number of tags? Or the number of tags in
your wiki are more than the number of tiddlers?
- Do you recommend categorization?
- Do you recommend unlimited use of sidebar tabs or limited?

In overall how to have a useful PKM using Tiddlywiki? I am talking general

Question: Does using TW as PKM needs some design practice?

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Re: [tw5] Re: Improve Search in Tiddlywiki

[Atronoush Parsi]

Thank you all!

@bimlas
locator is quite powerful! Of course it has a learning curve!

@A Gloom,
Thank you for the link!

On Sat, May 29, 2021 at 9:35 PM bimlas  wrote:

> This can be useful if you use a lot of fields or tags to indicate
> different properties:
>
> Locator provides a universal interface for navigating between your
> tiddlers and searching, filtering them without the need to write filter
> expressions. The plugin contains a table of contents macro and an enhanced
> search engine that contains a visual filter builder to filter results by
> tags and field values. You can organize the tiddlers to any number of
> trees, even by custom fields or links in text. Unlike classic Table of
> Contents, standard search, filter search and list of tags, this plugin
> handles these functions organically.
>
> https://bimlas.gitlab.io/tw5-locator/
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Re: [tw5] Re: Tiddly Remeber: Tutorial

[Atronoush Parsi]

Many thanks Soren! I look forward to seeing it!

TW+Anki is a very useful combination and if one understands how they work,
he/she can use this for many purposes.
For my case it is learning English Grammar.


I appreciate all your efforts on the Zettelkasten edition and the wonderful
Grok Tiddlywiki!
I also appreciate your pedagogical skills you have employed in both the
above two works. I see a lot of positive feedback.

Thank you again!
Atronoush

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[tw5] Re: Tiddly Remeber: Tutorial

[Atronoush]

Sorry for mistyped I mean video in above post!

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 8:52:26 PM UTC+4:30 Atronoush wrote:

> Hi Soren
>
> I am starting to learn Tiddly Remember. I want to know if there is any 
> view like the one for Zettelkasten out there or any other resources to 
> shorten the learning curve!
>
> Thank you 
>

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[tw5] Tiddly Remeber: Tutorial

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Hi Soren

I am starting to learn Tiddly Remember. I want to know if there is any view
like the one for Zettelkasten out there or any other resources to shorten
the learning curve!

Thank you

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Re: [tw5] Re: Ten way to create a common properties among tiddlers

[Atronoush Parsi]

So it seems there are three main properties

- having a common field *value* (e.g tags or other field)
- *namespace *in a field (like title)
- having a common field *name*

On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 4:32 AM TW Tones  wrote:

> OK, then
>
>1. Out of the Box streams is doing this for you in many ways.  You can
>customise the naming standard for the subtiddler created. Just type into
>your stream and each item becomes a tiddler, linked together by the tiddler
>in which the whole stream exists.
>2. Simple methods include new hear,
>3. Look at the TOCP plugin to set a parent field, rather than a tag
>4. The TOC macros for a table of Contents show how to have a
>hierarchical set of relationships
>   1. The kin filter takes this to the next level
>5. Time is linear in many ways. Make use of created and modified
>fields to relate things bu time
>   1. Create new date/time fields for other forms of organisation
>6. See all the discussions about backlinks, references etc... built
>into tiddlywiki because you can leverage these
>7. You can place a string in your tiddlers that you can later search
>with advanced search or the search operator in a filter. Such search
>strings can be in fields like a keywords field, or in the text field
>including 
>8. Lets say you had 10 tags categorizing content, you can tag each of
>the tag tiddlers with a category tag. Now with a little filter play you can
>treat the categories as a group, or even the categories and all they tag as
>a group.
>9. When grouping, listing and treating things as sets, you can plan so
>you have ways to include or exclude members from a larger set. That is you
>build larger relationships you can reduce to specific relationships using a
>filter to list subsets. eg a tiddler tagged todo that Also has a tag which
>is a project name.
>10. Someone else can do this one :)
>
> Tones
>
> On Wednesday, 12 May 2021 at 02:07:05 UTC+10 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> I see a thread on ten ways of drag and drop and I steal the idea for this
>> thread:
>> Ten ways to create common properties among tiddlers!
>>
>> Why:
>>
>>1. Tiddlywiki is nonlinear and unleashed. Effective note taking
>>recommend to connect notes!
>>2. Tiddler philosophy recommend tiddlers contain the smallest
>>meaningful chunk of information, so I have several tiddlers per subject
>>3. I like to find and access tiddlers related to each other to see
>>the whole stories
>>4. sometimes I need linear behaviour like a brochure with 5 pages
>>
>>
>> Question
>>
>>- *How can I create tiddlers with common property(ies) to be able to
>>list them, find them, connect them,...?*
>>
>>
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[tw5] Re: Improve Search in Tiddlywiki

[Atronoush Parsi]

Thank you all for your input!

The PowerSearch by Eric is great as I learn alot from that!
I recommend it for learning filters!

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[tw5] Filter question: !

[Atronoush Parsi]

   1. open https://tiddlywiki.com/
   2. create three tiddlers called Tid01 Tid02 Tid03 all tagged with new


I wrote the below wikitext in *Tid01*

<$list filter="[tag[new]!]">



In another test I wrote the below wikitext in *Tid01*

<$list filter="[tag[new]!is[current]">




Both give the same result! Do you recommend the first snippets!

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[tw5] Re: Ten way to create a common properties among tiddlers

[Atronoush Parsi]

I think these are some solutions!

All tiddlers have the same

   1. *tag*, e.g reading
   2. *field *e.g medium
   3. *namespace *e.g all titles started with story01 - or story01/

Saying created on the same date, or having the same word in the text body
does not make sense!

All tiddlers are

   1. *listed *in the list field or other field of another tiddler. example
   I have some categories like fruits (a tiddler) vegetables (a tiddler) and
   they have tiddler in their list field or other field


What else?

On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 8:36 PM Atronoush Parsi  wrote:

> I see a thread on ten ways of drag and drop and I steal the idea for this
> thread:
> Ten ways to create common properties among tiddlers!
>
> Why:
>
>1. Tiddlywiki is nonlinear and unleashed. Effective note taking
>recommend to connect notes!
>2. Tiddler philosophy recommend tiddlers contain the smallest
>meaningful chunk of information, so I have several tiddlers per subject
>3. I like to find and access tiddlers related to each other to see the
>whole stories
>4. sometimes I need linear behaviour like a brochure with 5 pages
>
>
> Question
>
>- *How can I create tiddlers with common property(ies) to be able to
>list them, find them, connect them,...?*
>
>
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[tw5] Ten way to create a common properties among tiddlers

[Atronoush Parsi]

I see a thread on ten ways of drag and drop and I steal the idea for this
thread:
Ten ways to create common properties among tiddlers!

Why:

   1. Tiddlywiki is nonlinear and unleashed. Effective note taking
   recommend to connect notes!
   2. Tiddler philosophy recommend tiddlers contain the smallest meaningful
   chunk of information, so I have several tiddlers per subject
   3. I like to find and access tiddlers related to each other to see the
   whole stories
   4. sometimes I need linear behaviour like a brochure with 5 pages


Question

   - *How can I create tiddlers with common property(ies) to be able to
   list them, find them, connect them,...?*


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[tw5] Improve Search in Tiddlywiki

[Atronoush Parsi]

I think most of you have the same opinion as me that the TW standard search
loses its efficiency as soon as your Tiddlywiki gets large. For example in
a TW with 2000 notes (tiddler) most of the time I DO NOT get what I want
when I make a search using Tiddlywiki standard search. I know Advanced
Search is there and I can do more precise search, but at the cost of
entering some filters!

So, the question is how we can improve the search quality of TW?

There are some search tools out there. If you look at the
https://links.tiddlywiki.com/ and search for search and search tools you
will find plenty of links, but you can not find a tool to help you here!

I appreciate sharing ideas, tools, links if they address improving
searching in Tiddlywiki!


One idea is:

Can TW rank and index searches to improve its precision?

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Re: [tw5] Re: Ten Ways to Drag and Drop Tiddlers to Tiddlywiki

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On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 12:23 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> 1. drag and drop a tiddler link
> 2. drag and drop a tag pill
> 3. drag and drop a $button with dragFilter
> 4. drag and drop a $button with dragTiddler
> 5. a $draggable widget
> 6. drag a tiddler to browser bookmark and later drag into another wiki
>


This is such a wonderful feature many do not know! I was watching a recent
video from Jeremy where he was talking about drag and drop
and the audiences were amazed to see such a simple and efficient way of
data transfer between two apps!


> 7.
> 8.
> 9.
> 10.
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 12:19 PM Mohammad Rahmani <
> mohammad.rahm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Drag and drop contents into Tiddlywiki for importing and exporting
>> contents is one of the amazing features of Tiddlywiki, it is not known as
>> it deserved.
>>
>> To bring the power into attention I asked the above question and I am
>> looking forward to see how others use this feature!
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>> Mohammad
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Re: [tw5] Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

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On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:15 PM Mohammad Rahmani 
wrote:

> It Seems Tiddlywiki has a total liberty in naming rules.
>
> Open Tiddlywiki and put this code in a Tiddler! See all of them world!
>
>
> \define .() test
>
> Hi. This is <<.>>
>
> <$vars
>  _var   =Hi
>  1var   ="Hello"
>  fr.var ="Salut"
>  .  ="Salve"
>  )*&= "konnichiwa"
>  !var   = "Olá">
>
>  * _var: <<_var>>
>  * 1var: <<_var>>
>  * fr.var: <>
>  * . : <<.>>
>  * $*&): <<)*&>>
>  * !var: <>
>
>  
>
>
> Strangely (or amazingly!!!) all of them work! You can even name a variable
> like  *)*& *
> Is this a sign of pure forgiveness? Or something has been forgotten? Or
> this is a design philosophy?
>
> While most users do not need in depth scripting but I believe most of the
> above are error prone!
>
> What do you think? I think we need some coding conventions? Some good
> practice at least!
>


This is absolutely bad practice! I believe TW should raise warning for
these specially names like ,
or even the worst case $*&)

>
>
>
>
> Best wishes
> Mohammad
>
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 7:23 PM Atronoush Parsi 
> wrote:
>
>> I have followed recent discussion on naming the fields or tiddlers in the
>> Google Forum! I wish to know are there recommendations for this?
>>
>>
>>- tiddler name
>>- field name
>>- macro name
>>- variable name
>>   - by $set
>>   - by $vars
>>   - by $list
>>   - by $wikify
>>   - css selector
>>- global and local
>>
>>
>> I am not sure but I assume Tiddlywiki does not have support for
>> namespace! but I see TW honors scope of variables!
>>
>> I was complaining about the currentTiddler name! Now I understand how
>> much it is meaningful! albeit with TW 5.122+ specially in TW 5.1.23 and
>> 5.1.24p we have much more flexibility in scripting
>> but the default is very meaningful!
>>
>> I see from TW official docs and codes, it uses
>>
>> tv- prefix for variable
>> tc- prefix for some CSS selectors
>>
>>
>> How can we use a *naming rule* to develop more readable scripts and
>> wikitexts?
>>
>>
>> I appreciate your advice!
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

[Atronoush Parsi]

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:35 PM PMario  wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:53:25 PM UTC+2 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> I have followed recent discussion on naming the fields or tiddlers in the
>> Google Forum! I wish to know are there recommendations for this?
>>
>>- variable name
>>   - by $set
>>   - by $vars
>>   - by $list
>>   - by $wikify
>>
>>
> Good question. ... The universal answer. ... It depends ;)
>
> I think the most important thing is, that you use _good_ names, that
> explain "*what they do*" or "*what they contain*"
>
> What I use for variables:  config-title, config-filter
>
> eg:
>
> \define getConfigTitle() $:/temp/$(currentTiddler)$
>
> \define config-filter() [tag[config]]
>
> <$list filter=<> >
>   <$macrocall $name="a-macro" title=<> />
>   <> -> <>
> 
>
> If a tiddler title is dynamic and I need to build it with at macro I use
> getConfigTitle() for the macro. So I know, whenever there is a
> getSomething() there will be variable substitution involved
> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Macros%20in%20WikiText:%5B%5BMacros%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D%20%5B%5BMacro%20Definitions%20in%20WikiText%5D%5D>.
> ...
>
> For other variables I prefer lowercase-lowercase-lowercase  to increase
> readability and I don't have to think about "case".
>


I think for variables, this lowercase-lowercase-lowercaseis great!
for macros, which creates global variables in scope of a tiddler, I prefer
your camelCase naming! I think this is better than PascalCase!

I saw a recommendation not to use hyphens and use underscores instead!
Especially in Python we cannot do this!
Many other languages do no not allow hyphens, but I see in Tiddlywiki it is
quite common and we have the same in CSS
like font-size! So I go for this!



>
> But as I wrote: The most important thing is "good names" ... which is the
> difficult part ;)
>

Yes, this is very difficult!


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Re: [tw5] Re: Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

[Atronoush Parsi]

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:08 PM PMario  wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:53:25 PM UTC+2 Atronoush wrote:
> ...
>
>> I am not sure but I assume Tiddlywiki does not have support for
>> namespace! but I see TW honors scope of variables!
>>
>
> We do use the term: "namespace" .. but probably in a different context as
> you mention here. eg:
>
> $:/temp/ ..
>  - Is a namespace for temporary variables, which don't trigger an
> automatic save
>  - Such tiddlers are used like "variables" in other languages.
>  - They are easy to filter eg: {{{ [prefix[$:/temp/]] }}}
>

I have seen this alot for plugins and it is good practice here!

I see on Node.JS both $:/temp and $:state will be deleted on exit! If one
wishes to keep data permanently do you recommend
something like $:/keep/state?

>
> The "Explorer" shows all the System namespaces.
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FMoreSideBar%2FExplorer
>
> -mario
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Re: [tw5] Re: Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

[Atronoush Parsi]

Hi Mario,
 I appreciate your detailed discussion and recommendations. The use of wltc
and wltm are good practice!



On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 9:56 PM PMario  wrote:

> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 4:53:25 PM UTC+2 Atronoush wrote:
>
> I see from TW official docs and codes, it uses
>>
>> tv- prefix for variable
>> tc- prefix for some CSS selectors
>>
>
> tv- ... tiddlywiki variable
> tc- ... tiddlywiki class
> tm- ... tiddlywiki message
>
> These prefixes are reserved for "the core". Users, especially plugin
> authors should avoid to use them. .. They should only used, if
> pull-requests for the core are pushed to github.
>

Correct!

>
> I personally use, wltc-, wltc-, wltm- ... wl .. for wikilabs ... So I know
> they are part of a plugin, but my users will still get, what they are used
> for.
>
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[tw5] Naming rules and the best practice : from wikitext scripting point of view

[Atronoush Parsi]

I have followed recent discussion on naming the fields or tiddlers in the
Google Forum! I wish to know are there recommendations for this?


   - tiddler name
   - field name
   - macro name
   - variable name
  - by $set
  - by $vars
  - by $list
  - by $wikify
  - css selector
   - global and local


I am not sure but I assume Tiddlywiki does not have support for namespace!
but I see TW honors scope of variables!

I was complaining about the currentTiddler name! Now I understand how much
it is meaningful! albeit with TW 5.122+ specially in TW 5.1.23 and 5.1.24p
we have much more flexibility in scripting
but the default is very meaningful!

I see from TW official docs and codes, it uses

tv- prefix for variable
tc- prefix for some CSS selectors


How can we use a *naming rule* to develop more readable scripts and
wikitexts?


I appreciate your advice!


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Re: [tw5] Re: A basket on the sidebar

[Atronoush Parsi]

@Soren
Lovely solution! Works great for me and I like the possiblity to add tags
before export. In the target wiki I can recognize what I imported

@Tones
I love your solution! I can have several basket in this way

@Mohmmad
WOW, I learnt I can use TW elemnts theirslves and I can shape  them for my
use case.
I love the draggable button! I can export to a file, or drag the button to
target wiki! Amazing!!


Thank you all! While I am very happy with all these solutions., I really
appreciate the help of this wonderful community!

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On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 3:44 AM Soren Bjornstad 
wrote:

> Here's a simple version. Put it in a tiddler called Basket and tag it
> $:/tags/SideBar:
>
> \define apply-tag() <$list filter={{Basket!!list}}><$action-listops
> $tags="Basket"/>
> \define clear-tag() <$list filter="[tag[Basket]]"><$action-listops
> $tags="-Basket"/><$action-setfield $tiddler="Basket" list=""/>
> \define export-basket() <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-download-file"
> $param="$:/core/templates/exporters/JsonFile" exportFilter={{Basket!!list}}
> filename=<>/>
>
> Basket (drag tiddlers here):
>
> <>
>
> <$button actions=<> tooltip="Add the 'Basket' tag to all items
> in the basket.">Apply tag
> <>
> <$button actions=<> tooltip="Export all the items in the
> basket to a JSON file.">Export JSON
> <$button actions=<> tooltip="Remove the 'Basket' tag from all
> items and clear the basket list.">Empty basket
>
> The list-links-draggable widget allows you to drag and drop tiddlers
> (putting this as a sidebar tab might make it a little hard to source
> tiddlers to drag though -- maybe better to put it somewhere else!). Those
> will be stored in the list field of the Basket tiddler. Then the "Apply
> Tag" button lets you tag each of those tiddlers, if you so desire. You can
> then drag and drop the tag into a different wiki to copy the tiddlers, or
> use the Export JSON button to export a JSON file. The empty button will
> remove the Basket tag from all tiddlers where it's used and clear out the
> list.
>
> Opportunities for improvement:
>
>- It would be possible to roll something using the $dropzone widget
>that would automatically add the tag and eliminate the need for the "Apply
>Tag" step. I was feeling lazy and wanted to use list-links-draggable.
>- You might consider temporarily turning off timestamps while tagging
>and untagging things so that they don't show up as modified just because
>you were selecting them (not sure if there's a way to do that with an
>action tiddler).
>- The interface here leaves something to be desired, but should be
>functional.
>
> On Monday, May 3, 2021 at 4:08:06 PM UTC-5 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> Is there any script or plugin with
>>
>> - a sidebar tab (I call it basket)
>> - drag and drop features! One can drag a tiddler (e.g title) into the
>> basket
>> - when finished press a button to export as JSON
>> - the button can be dragged and drop into another wiki!
>>
>> The last part is what you see in TW-Icons
>>
>>
>> -Atro
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[tw5] A basket on the sidebar

[Atronoush Parsi]

Is there any script or plugin with

- a sidebar tab (I call it basket)
- drag and drop features! One can drag a tiddler (e.g title) into the basket
- when finished press a button to export as JSON
- the button can be dragged and drop into another wiki!

The last part is what you see in TW-Icons


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Re: [tw5] navigation in modal window TW 5.1.23

[Atronoush]

Thank you all.

Yes as Mat explained I like to have short wizards (include 5 or more steps 
each in a separate tiddler) so on a click it should open next tiddler in 
the same modal window!
I will try  Jeremy's suggestion and will back to you.

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On Sunday, January 3, 2021 at 3:04:39 PM UTC+3:30 jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:

> You should be able to use the <$linkcatcher> widget with the actions 
> attribute, something like this:
>
> \define actions()
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param=<>/>
> \end
>
> <$linkcatcher actions=<>>
>
> HelloThere
>
> 
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> On 29 Dec 2020, at 23:21, Mat  wrote:
>
> OK, thanks.
>
> On second thought, adding actions to the LinkWidget doesn't seem all that 
>> useful. You would need to create links with the full widget syntax, at 
>> which point you may as well use the ButtonWidget.
>>
>
> I'd think Atronoush's idea is to let the clicking *user *decide if the 
> link should open as a tiddler or as a modal. Comparable to how ctrl+click 
> opens the tiddler without navigation. Come to think of it, then this is 
> even more about bracket links than the linkwidget - but it is of course 
> really about both.
>
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[tw5] Re: Announcing the release of TiddlyWiki v5.1.23

[Atronoush]

This is a very powerful TW I have ever seen. 

My favorites

- New palettes specially the Gruvbox dark
- New filter operators (they need more examples to discover their 
underlying power)
- Tiddler file naming (this is really useful)

Thank you Jeremy and all developers.

Happy new year and Best wishes

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wrote:

> I’m delighted to announce that the new v5.1.23 release of TiddlyWiki is 
> now available:
>
> https://tiddlywiki.com/
> https://www.npmjs.com/package/tiddlywiki/v/5.1.23
>
> I’ve attached a thumbnail of the release note (
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Release%205.1.23) to give a sense of the scale. 
> Usually here I would summarise the key new features, but on this occasion 
> there’s really too many to choose from. So instead I’d like to invite 
> everyone to reply here nominating their favourite feature. And of course 
> please do ask for clarifications if any of the changes aren’t clear.
>
> For all of us it’s been a strange year, with much heartbreaking suffering 
> around us. Back in April, I was delighted to get v5.1.22 out as part of a 
> clearing of the decks, just in case anything happened to me. As it’s turned 
> out, despite COVID’s best efforts, but entirely thanks to a very high level 
> of collaboration across the core development team, v5.1.23 has been one of 
> the most impressive releases for a long time. I can’t wait to see what 
> we’ll achieve in 2021.
>
> I’d like to thank everyone involved with the development, and of course a 
> huge thank you to everyone here who’s time and attention makes this project 
> what it is today. To corrupt an old adage, TiddlyWiki will die when the 
> last person speaks its name. Right now there’s a chorus of voices lifting 
> the project, and let’s hope that will long continue,
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] navigation in modal window TW 5.1.23

[Atronoush]

In TW 5.1.23 the modal window has improved.
How can I click on a link and open it inside modal window?


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[tw5] dummy text generator

[Atronoush Parsi]

What is the simplest method to create dummy text in specified length?

e.g.

<> to generate a dummy text of 100 words
<> to generate a dummy text of 250 words in three paragraphs

--Atro
Is it possible to use the below text from
https://www.blindtextgenerator.com/about-lorem-ipsum#:~:text=Dummy%20text%20is%20text%20that,known%20as%20'fill%20text
'.

Dummy text is text that is used in the publishing industry or by web
designers to occupy the space which will later be filled with 'real'
content. This is required when, for example, the final text is not yet
available. Dummy text is also known as 'fill text'. It is said that song
composers of the past used dummy texts as lyrics when writing melodies in
order to have a 'ready-made' text to sing with the melody. Dummy texts have
been in use by typesetters since the 16th century.


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Re: [tw5] Please vote for your favour banner for v5.1.23

[Atronoush]

Thank you Jeremy,

 Yes you are right. I did not note to this. I tried to embed the font, but 
as you said the size of SVG is much bigger than png.
 I hope next time I could propose a better design!

Cheers
Atronoush
 


On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 11:16:30 PM UTC+3:30 jeremy...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi Atronoush
>
> Congratulations again!
>
> I send the high quality svg file plus png files again. The svg is only 9kb 
> while png is 25kb. I testes the svg file on the 
> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ and it is work fine.
> If it is possible and using svg format is allowed, I may recommend to use 
> the svg format instead of png.
>
>
> The SVG looks like this on my system because I don’t have the “IRAN 
> Rounded” font. To get around it one can convert the text to curves but that 
> comes at the expense of a much larger file size.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Please vote for your favour banner for v5.1.23

[Atronoush]

Hi Jeremy,

 I am really happy to have a very small contribution to the Tiddlywiki a 
tool I know has many many fans.
 Thank you all for selecting this my artwork, and a million thanks go to 
all competitors. A very special thanks to Springer for hosting all
  candidates and for her amazing logo-play website.


@Jeremy
I send the high quality svg file plus png files again. The svg is only 9kb 
while png is 25kb. I testes the svg file on the 
https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ and it is work fine.
If it is possible and using svg format is allowed, I may recommend to use 
the svg format instead of png.

Thank you one times more
and best wishes for you and Tiddlywiki
Atro


NOBLE PRIZE in Tiddlywiki  
:-) :-)

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 3:25:39 PM UTC+3:30 jeremy...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Thank you to everyone who voted, the competition is now closed. We had 
> four very strong entries, but with 190 votes recorded there was a clear 
> winner in Atronoush’s design. Many thanks to everyone who helped make this 
> a lot of fun, especially to all the entrants.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 13 Dec 2020, at 13:01, Jeremy Ruston  wrote:
>
> Hi Bimlas
>
> Is it possible that it's possible to vote twice?
>
>
> Yes it is. The only way to guard against it with Google Forms is to 
> require a Google Account in order to vote. (Of course, making an anonymous 
> online voting system that doesn’t permit double voting would be impossible).
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> Mat schrieb am Mittwoch, 9. Dezember 2020 um 22:15:56 UTC+1:
>
>> WOW! - you guys are really raising the bar for the banner competitions. 
>> What great contributions, ALL of them!!!
>> <:-)
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 12:33:54 PM UTC+1 Werner wrote:
>>
>>> Great stuff, everyone. Voted!
>>>
>>> BurningTreeC schrieb am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2020 um 09:38:24 UTC+1:
>>>
 Nice banners everyone :) ! Voted!

 BTC

 TW Tones schrieb am Dienstag, 8. Dezember 2020 um 03:30:49 UTC+1:

> They are all good! 
>
> On Tuesday, 8 December 2020 at 02:52:00 UTC+11 jeremy...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> The voting to choose the banner for TiddlyWiki v5.1.23 is now open. 
>> Please pick your favourite here:
>>
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdODdlyb7RNvzk0pf1-aNAqgbS2LUURhte3EsVnhHPvoZRtrQ/viewform
>>
>> Thanks to everyone who entered the competition (see 
>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/cTgPWl8b_9c/m/VtrMFHBGAwAJ). 
>> There’s a lot of creativity in the group, and I’mv grateful to have four 
>> excellent designs to choose from.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
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   xmlns:cc="http://creativecommons.org/ns#;
   xmlns:rdf="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#;
   xmlns:svg="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
   xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
   xmlns:sodipodi="http://sodipodi.sourceforge.net/DTD/sodipodi-0.dtd;
   xmlns:inkscape="http://www.inkscape.org/namespaces/inkscape;
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   inkscape:version="1.0 (4035a4fb49, 2020-05-01)"
   id="svg16"
   version="1.1"
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   height="315"
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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

Hi Springer,

No need to apology! 
I do appreciate all your efforts and I have bookmarked your wiki for future 
reference! 
Thank you

Cheers
Atro


On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 9:52:39 PM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> Atro,
>
> Good point, and I owe folks an apology if the logo-play page 
> <https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/logo-play.html> was loading with a 
> theme other than vanilla. 
>
> The scope of the competition as Jeremy set it up really is limited to 
> serving as the banner image for the new version at tiddlywiki.com, though 
> I configured my site as a repository for potential TW-related "branding" 
> images more broadly (since I often want to use some kind of graphic badge 
> on public-facing TW5 projects). 
>
> For now, while the competition is on the front burner, I've taken the 
> day/night button off the page controls, and ensured that the page should 
> load with the "vanilla" palette.
>
> Of course, people can also do, today, what you recommended earlier in the 
> thread (1. Drop the artwork in https://tiddlywiki.com/; 2. Rename tiddler 
> to New Release Banner; 3. Save the wiki and reload; 4. Look at the 
> HelloWorld tiddler). If I knew how to automate that kind of mock-up easily, 
> I'd do so, but at this point the logo-play site just showcases each of the 
> images as submitted on this thread.
>
> -Springer
>
> On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 3:56:03 AM UTC-5 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> Hi Springer,
>>  I think the official tiddlywiki.com uses Vanilla palette. My candidate 
>> is also optimized for Vanilla palette and will not work on dark palettes. 
>>
>> @Jeremy 
>> Compatibility with dark palettes if required, need to be added to rules 
>> for competition.
>>
>> Thank you
>> Atro
>> On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 2:51:32 AM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:
>>
>>> gallery: 
>>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/logo-play.html#5.1.23%20logo%20candidates
>>>
>>> This TOC permalink now shows just the entries most recently confirmed by 
>>> each author. (I've included one realistic-keyboard variant of mine, since 
>>> it's a really different idea from the wraparound logo, but I left out all 
>>> other variations.)
>>>
>>> -Springer
>>> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 6:10:04 PM UTC-5 jeremy...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks Springer, Atronoush,
>>>>
>>>> I think it's no problem for people to make multiple entries. There's 
>>>> perhaps an argument against making two entries that are very similar in 
>>>> case it splits the vote.
>>>>
>>>> I'll send out the voting form tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> @Jeremy, the wiki by Springer has all the candidates
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It also has designs that aren't intended to be entered, so I am working 
>>>> from the attachments to this thread.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jeremy Ruston
>>>> jer...@jermolene.com
>>>> https://jermolene.com
>>>>
>>>> On 5 Dec 2020, at 22:57, Atronoush  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Springer, yes if any participant can have only one candidate 
>>>> then my candidate is the one you posted above (I copied below).
>>>> @Jeremy, the wiki by Springer has all the candidates
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

Hi Springer,
 I think the official tiddlywiki.com uses Vanilla palette. My candidate is 
also optimized for Vanilla palette and will not work on dark palettes. 

@Jeremy 
Compatibility with dark palettes if required, need to be added to rules for 
competition.

Thank you
Atro
On Sunday, December 6, 2020 at 2:51:32 AM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> gallery: 
> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/logo-play.html#5.1.23%20logo%20candidates
>
> This TOC permalink now shows just the entries most recently confirmed by 
> each author. (I've included one realistic-keyboard variant of mine, since 
> it's a really different idea from the wraparound logo, but I left out all 
> other variations.)
>
> -Springer
> On Saturday, December 5, 2020 at 6:10:04 PM UTC-5 jeremy...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Springer, Atronoush,
>>
>> I think it's no problem for people to make multiple entries. There's 
>> perhaps an argument against making two entries that are very similar in 
>> case it splits the vote.
>>
>> I'll send out the voting form tomorrow.
>>
>> @Jeremy, the wiki by Springer has all the candidates
>>
>>
>> It also has designs that aren't intended to be entered, so I am working 
>> from the attachments to this thread.
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> Jeremy.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Ruston
>> jer...@jermolene.com
>> https://jermolene.com
>>
>> On 5 Dec 2020, at 22:57, Atronoush  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Thank you Springer, yes if any participant can have only one candidate 
>> then my candidate is the one you posted above (I copied below).
>> @Jeremy, the wiki by Springer has all the candidates
>>
>> 
>>
>>
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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

Thank you Springer, yes if any participant can have only one candidate then 
my candidate is the one you posted above (I copied below).
@Jeremy, the wiki by Springer has all the candidates

[image: atro-modular TW5.1.23.png]

>
>
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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

Hi Sylvain,

Wow, these are real 3D artworks.
What do you think if you use four colors of Google logo!

Cheers
-- Atro


On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 12:30:17 AM UTC+3:30 sil...@gmail.com wrote:

> Good idea the zip feature, et voilà ! The rc6 evolution.
>
> [image: whatisnew5.1.23-rc6.png]
>
> Sylvain
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

Hi Mark,
 Yes, I agree :-).

Mask artwork was in response to Jeremy request: reflect the current 
situation and events of year. Unfortunately because of the license issue it 
seems we cannot use the artworks with masks!

--Atro

On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 11:45:41 PM UTC+3:30 Mark S. wrote:

> What we need is the TW Kitty wearing a mask. 
>
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 9:00:39 AM UTC-7 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> The colorful mask is sent again! There was a need to align horizontally 
>> center the elements.
>>
>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask_colorful.png]
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Atronoush Parsi  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeremy,
>>>  Here I send two banner images, both created in Inkscape. So, you or 
>>> other interested people can edit and customize it.
>>>
>>> Artwork one: The circles means TW is a modular, lego-wise framework and 
>>> also it is maintained by a lovely community (group of users [outer circles] 
>>> and group of developers [inner circles])
>>> [image: TW5.1.23.png]
>>>
>>> Artwork two: This second artwork reflects the pandemic
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask.png]
>>> Artwork three: same as two with colorful face mask
>>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask_colorful.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> --Atro
>>>
>>>
>>> P.s: The second artwork uses a free open source icon from flaticon.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:55 AM Jeremy Ruston  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> TiddlyWiki v5.1.23 is nearing release with many exciting updates; see 
>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease to try it out. As usual, I’d like to 
>>>> hold a competition to design the banner image that is shown on the splash 
>>>> screen and within the opening HelloThere tiddler.
>>>>
>>>> The rules for the competition are:
>>>>
>>>> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
>>>> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>>>> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>>>> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new 
>>>> in 5.1.23” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>>>> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up 
>>>> in a previous competition
>>>> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>>>>
>>>> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>>>>
>>>> v5.1.22 - 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
>>>> v5.1.21 - 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>>>>
>>>> Inspiration might come from some of the new features in v5.1.22, or 
>>>> perhaps reflect something of the uniqueness of this peculiar year. If 
>>>> you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the skills to 
>>>> produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in case another 
>>>> person would like to work on the artwork.
>>>>
>>>> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is 
>>>> more than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes and many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

Springer,
 Many thanks for the demo site lets to see all candidates in one place.

Few suggestion, of course if you have time
1. Please add other candidate artwork (you can ask for svg and png both)
2. increase the storyriver width and use vertical tabs in 
https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/logo-play.html#Springer
3. change the site title (sidebar logo and title) to something more general 
not restricted to 5.1.23
4. let use your website for future competition so after a while we will 
have a lot of artworks for different releases/competitions ( consider in 
2100 users will see the history of TW artworks :-) :-) :) LOL:::)
5. your website will acts as a resource other users can download their 
favorite artworks for their customization and use

And million thanks for making logo-play!

Cheers
Atro

On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 10:30:13 PM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> Nice! I've added this last to the site with contestants received so far. 
> I'll add your other color variants too if you post them here at standard 
> size.
>
> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/logo-play.html
> On Sunday, November 29, 2020 at 1:36:28 PM UTC-5 sil...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> A little variant to with with an overview of the grid, and other test 
>> with bumble to be more like a tiddler.
>>
>> [image: whatisnew5.1.23-rc5.png]
>>
>> ++
>> Sylvain
>>
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[tw5] Re: Saving a story-river

[Atronoush]

Wonderful job!

I think it worth to have a sidebar tab as Story! and then see list of saved 
story the button to load and save!
and even an export story! This makes it great to distribute 
notes/docs/trails to other.


--Mohammad

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 5:27:14 AM UTC+3:30 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 5:01:52 PM UTC-8 
> ad...@menswellbeing.org wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to save the story-river into a tiddler and then use that 
>> tiddler to open that story-river at a later time?
>>
>
> The current StoryRiver contents are stored in $:/StoryList!!list.
>
> Here's a tiddler that defines two buttons...
> one to save the current  $:/StoryList!!list field to a separate tiddler 
> tagged with "savedStory",
> and another to set the  $:/StoryList!!list from the list field in a 
> "savedStory" tiddler:
>
> *StorySaver:*
> <$button popup="$:/state/popup/savestory"> save story 
> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/popup/savestory" class="tc-drop-down 
> tc-popup-keep" style="min-width:auto;padding:0.5em;">
>Enter a new story name:
><$edit-text tiddler="$:/state/popup/savestory" field="storyname" />
><$list filter="[tag[savedStory]limit[1]]">
>   or, select an existing story:
>.savedStoryList { width:100%; } 
>   <$select tiddler="$:/state/popup/savestory" field="storyname" 
> size="5" class="savedStoryList">
>   <$list 
> filter="[tag[savedStory]]"><>
>   
>
><$button style="text-align:center;"> save
>   <$action-setfield $tiddler={{$:/state/popup/savestory!!storyname}} 
> list={{$:/StoryList!!list}} tags="savedStory" />
>   <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/state/popup/savestory" />
>
> 
> <$button popup="$:/state/popup/loadstory"> load story 
> <$reveal type="popup" state="$:/state/popup/loadstory" class="tc-drop-down 
> tc-popup-keep" style="min-width:auto;padding:0.5em;">
><$list filter="[tag[savedStory]limit[1]]" emptyMessage="no saved 
> stories">
>   select an existing story:
>.savedStoryList { width:100%; } 
>   <$select tiddler="$:/state/popup/loadstory" field="storyname" 
> size="5" class="savedStoryList">
>   <$list 
> filter="[tag[savedStory]]"><>
>   
>
><$button style="text-align:center;"> load
>   <$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/StoryList" list={{{ 
> [{$:/state/popup/loadstory!!storyname}get[list]] }}} />
>   <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/state/popup/loadstory" />
>
> 
>
> To use these buttons, just insert {{StorySaver}} into any tiddler.  
> Alternatively, you can add these buttons to the Sidebar by tagging the 
> above tiddler with $:/tags/SideBarSegment.  After tagging, you can 
> reposition the buttons in the SideBar by viewing the tiddler and clicking 
> on the $:/tags/SideBarSegment tag to display the list of tiddlers with that 
> tag.  You can then use drag-and-drop to move the buttons to the desired 
> position in the list (e.g.,  above the $:/core/ui/SideBarSegments/tabs)
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: Dynamic Svg Calendar

[Atronoush]

Hi Tones,
 great idea!
Based on your suggestion I changed your code as below:

1. color of top part is sent as macro parameter: e.g: red, #f00, or 
rgb(128,160,256)
2. the date value is sent as a macro parameter, so a field value can be 
sent too

See attached a JSON containing the revised code and a test
Just drag the JSON into https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ and open Test 
tiddler
See the results
[image: 105_chrome.png]


See the content of Test tiddler

<><>
<>
<>
<>
<$macrocall $name=svg-date-field
date={{!!mydate}} width=128 color="#f18973"/>


Best wishes
Mohammad

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 5:11:50 AM UTC+3:30 TW Tones wrote:

> Mohammad,
>
> Inspirational. Especially the idea of dynamic svg's that respond to 
> content that can become buttons
>
> Inspired by your effort, I built a version that shows the year, and uses 
> now, unless a fieldname is provided. The fieldname needs to contain a date 
> according to the date serial number.
>
>- It uses the new format:date operator on the *pre-release.*
>- You can use partial serial numbers eg; 201911021200
>- I am keen to pass the top fill colour as well, as one could use this 
>to distinguish created/modified now etc...
>- I plan to make this into an alternative for the new Journal button 
>which also shows if a journal entry exists.
>
> Regards
> Tones
>
> \define svg-date-field(width:"", height:"" fieldname)
> <$set name=date-value value={{!!$fieldname$}} emptyValue=< "0MM0DD0hh0mm0ss0XXX">> >
> <$set name=month value={{{ [format:date[mmm]] }}}>
> <$set name=day value={{{ [format:date[DD]] }}}>
> <$set name=dow value={{{ [format:date[DDD]] }}}>
> <$set name=year value={{{ [format:date[]] }}}>
> http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
> aria-label="Calendar" role="img"
> viewBox="0 0 512 512" width="$width$" height="$height$">
> 
> 
>
> 
>
>x="32" 
>   y="164" 
>   fill="#fff" 
>   font-family="monospace"
>   font-size="140px"
>   style="text-anchor: left"><>
>
>x="300" 
>   y="164" 
>   fill="#fff" 
>   font-family="monospace"
>   font-size="80px"
>   style="text-anchor: right"><>
>
>x="256" 
>   y="400" 
>   fill="#66757f" 
>   font-family="monospace"
>   font-size="256px"
>   style="text-anchor: middle"><>
>
>x="256" 
>   y="480" 
>   fill="#66757f" 
>   font-family="monospace"
>   font-size="64px"
>   style="text-anchor: middle"><>
> 
> 
> \end
>
> <>
> <>
> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 10:07:17 UTC+11 TW Tones wrote:
>
>> Mohammad,
>>
>> I love it. Especially in the sidebar!
>>
>> Tones
>>
>> On Thursday, 26 November 2020 at 10:00:36 UTC+11 Mohammad wrote:
>>
>>> The tiddler of above post is attached here!
>>>
>>> It seems Google group does not allow to attached this kind of svg! So I 
>>> zipped the tiddler.
>>> Unzip and then drag into your wiki or into  https://tiddlywiki.com/  
>>>
>>>

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Description: application/json

[tw5] Re: Code Tiddler and Transclude few lines

[Atronoush]

Thank you Eric!

Works like a charm!

-Atro

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 1:56:14 AM UTC+3:30 Eric Shulman wrote:

> Place the following in a tiddler (e.g., "ShowLinesMacro"), tagged with 
> $:/tags/Macro"
> \define showLines(tid,from,to)
> <$vars length={{{ [[$to$]subtract[$from$]add[1]] }}}>
> <$set name="lines" 
> filter="[[$tid$]get[text]splitregexp[\n]first[$to$]last]">
> <$list filter="[enlist:raw]" variable="line"><$text 
> text=<>/>
> 
> 
> \end
>
> which can then be invoked using:
> <>
> 
> <>
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Code Tiddler and Transclude few lines

[Atronoush]

See also this discussion for possible solution
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tiddlywiki/6eL-yh2qdB8

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 1:07:43 AM UTC+3:30 Atronoush wrote:

> Correction:
>
> Then in another tiddler I explain how code works and I need to include few 
> *lines* of code and explain them. So for example in Tiddler B, I need to 
> transclude *lines 3-5* and in another part transclude *lines 8-19 * 
>
> On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 1:05:46 AM UTC+3:30 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> I use a Tiddlywiki for my Python codes. So I have a tiddler like below
>>
>> Title: Slab Catalyst
>> Body:
>>  # Problem data and parameters
>> L= 1e-3# pellet thickness, m
>> Cao=0.2# concen at the surface, kg-mol/m3
>> k=1e-3 # reaction rate constant, 1/s
>> Dab=1.2e-9 # diffusion coeff, m2/s
>>
>> # Calculate Thiele modulus
>> phi=L * np.sqrt(k/Dab)
>> 
>> def slab_exact(z):
>> """ dcalculates the exact solution """
>> x = 1 - z/L
>> Ca=Cao*np.cosh(phi*x)/np.cosh(phi)
>> return Ca
>>
>> def odefun(z,u):
>> """ defines the set of odes """
>> u1, u2 = u
>> dudz=[ u2,
>>k/Dab*u1 ]
>> return dudz
>> 
>> def bcfun(ul, ur):
>> """ defines the boundary conditions """
>> residue=[ ul[0]-Cao,
>>   ur[1] ]
>> return residue
>>
>> Then in another tiddler I explain how code works and I need to include 
>> few line of code and explain them. So for example in Tiddler B, I need to 
>> transclude like 3-5 and in another part transclude like 8-19
>>
>> Using the Tiddlywiki filter operators it possible to process a tiddler 
>> contents and break into lines, I wish to have a macro able
>> transclude certain lines of code in another tiddler.
>>
>> -Atro
>>
>

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[tw5] Re: Code Tiddler and Transclude few lines

[Atronoush]

Correction:

Then in another tiddler I explain how code works and I need to include few 
*lines* of code and explain them. So for example in Tiddler B, I need to 
transclude *lines 3-5* and in another part transclude *lines 8-19 * 

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 1:05:46 AM UTC+3:30 Atronoush wrote:

> I use a Tiddlywiki for my Python codes. So I have a tiddler like below
>
> Title: Slab Catalyst
> Body:
>  # Problem data and parameters
> L= 1e-3# pellet thickness, m
> Cao=0.2# concen at the surface, kg-mol/m3
> k=1e-3 # reaction rate constant, 1/s
> Dab=1.2e-9 # diffusion coeff, m2/s
>
> # Calculate Thiele modulus
> phi=L * np.sqrt(k/Dab)
> 
> def slab_exact(z):
> """ dcalculates the exact solution """
> x = 1 - z/L
> Ca=Cao*np.cosh(phi*x)/np.cosh(phi)
> return Ca
>
> def odefun(z,u):
> """ defines the set of odes """
> u1, u2 = u
> dudz=[ u2,
>k/Dab*u1 ]
> return dudz
> 
> def bcfun(ul, ur):
> """ defines the boundary conditions """
> residue=[ ul[0]-Cao,
>   ur[1] ]
> return residue
>
> Then in another tiddler I explain how code works and I need to include few 
> line of code and explain them. So for example in Tiddler B, I need to 
> transclude like 3-5 and in another part transclude like 8-19
>
> Using the Tiddlywiki filter operators it possible to process a tiddler 
> contents and break into lines, I wish to have a macro able
> transclude certain lines of code in another tiddler.
>
> -Atro
>

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[tw5] Code Tiddler and Transclude few lines

[Atronoush]

I use a Tiddlywiki for my Python codes. So I have a tiddler like below

Title: Slab Catalyst
Body:
 # Problem data and parameters
L= 1e-3# pellet thickness, m
Cao=0.2# concen at the surface, kg-mol/m3
k=1e-3 # reaction rate constant, 1/s
Dab=1.2e-9 # diffusion coeff, m2/s
   
# Calculate Thiele modulus
phi=L * np.sqrt(k/Dab)

def slab_exact(z):
""" dcalculates the exact solution """
x = 1 - z/L
Ca=Cao*np.cosh(phi*x)/np.cosh(phi)
return Ca

def odefun(z,u):
""" defines the set of odes """
u1, u2 = u
dudz=[ u2,
   k/Dab*u1 ]
return dudz

def bcfun(ul, ur):
""" defines the boundary conditions """
residue=[ ul[0]-Cao,
  ur[1] ]
return residue

Then in another tiddler I explain how code works and I need to include few 
line of code and explain them. So for example in Tiddler B, I need to 
transclude like 3-5 and in another part transclude like 8-19

Using the Tiddlywiki filter operators it possible to process a tiddler 
contents and break into lines, I wish to have a macro able
transclude certain lines of code in another tiddler.

-Atro

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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

Springer,

 Wow, you did a great job and thank you for including my banner in the logo 
play wiki! 
 I love all of your candidates! I have downloaded few of them for my 
private wikis!

-Atro

On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:07:31 PM UTC+3:30 springer wrote:

> Mohammad, 
>
> Seeing the logo in the context of that use, where the bottom is 
> effectively cropped off, seems to require that nothing vital be along the 
> bottom there...
> At least in that mockup you made, Atro's modular orange banner certainly 
> looks better.
>
> -Springer
>
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 9:17:34 AM UTC-5 Mohammad wrote:
>
>> I just dropped two of banners to compare and see how they look like! But 
>> having in one tiddler may be better!
>>
>> [image: 113_chrome.png]
>> [image: 114_chrome.png]
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 5:25:45 PM UTC+3:30 
>> jeremy...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Apologies, another technicality to note is that the bottom 46 pixels 
>>> will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new in v5.1.23”, so it’s best 
>>> to keep important parts of the image higher up.
>>>
>>> Best wishes
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
>>> On 25 Nov 2020, at 13:43, Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>>>
>>> @springer excllent! Thank you. That one definitely has my vote.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 2:20:51 PM UTC+1 springer wrote:
>>>
 Saq, the aspect ratio 560x315 was a bit challenging, but with a bit of 
 rearranging it can work, and maybe even make the keycap association 
 clearer:


 https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/logo-play.html#keycaps%20in%20560x315%20box

 On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 6:55:36 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @springer if you have the time and the interest, a variant of " larger 
> keycaps hint " that fits the required dimensions (560x315 ) would be 
> interesting. 
>
> On Wednesday, November 25, 2020 at 1:56:44 AM UTC+1 springer wrote:
>
>> Dave, done. (Visible, along with other variants with subtle keycap 
>> imagery, at the site, 
>> https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/logo-play.html)
>> Just one stray thought: I wonder whether strings like 5.1.23 might 
>> (in some places) get misread as date tags (May 1 2023, or Jan 5 2023, 
>> depending on local conventions) ...
>> If so, perhaps having a "v." (as in v.5.1.23) in the logo might help.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 6:54:52 PM UTC-5 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> I like the right side of "TW 5.1.23 rectangular logo" could you do 
>>> that as a separate entry?
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 5:38:26 PM UTC-6 springer wrote:
>>>
 Hey all, rather than bombard the list with variants, I just set up 
 a tw page with alternatives, including one with a keycaps theme:

 https://springerspandrel.github.io/tw/logo-play.html
 On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 5:28:00 PM UTC-5 j.te...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Definitely a +1 for springer's artwork.
>
> Best wishes,
> Julio
>
> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 3:59:04 PM UTC-5 
> saq.i...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I give up. GG just hangs when I try to include an image.
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 9:53:10 PM UTC+1 Saq Imtiaz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a quick mash up on the phone just to illustrate the idea 
>>> (and obviously the wrong aspect ratio) but perhaps it might inspire 
>>> someone 
>>> else.
>>>
>>>
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[tw5] Re: list-filter-called titles sliderized

[Atronoush]

Thank you!

On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 5:58:31 PM UTC+3:30 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 6:19:21 AM UTC-8, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>> Minor note: in the above solution extra line breaks (perhaps on 
>> copy-paste) broke the code!
>>
>
> This is a long-standing BUG in GoogleGroups.
> The code was actually entered without the extra line breaks, but sometimes 
> stray line breaks are added when code-formatted content is displayed.
>
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: list-filter-called titles sliderized

[Atronoush]

Thank you Eric! Works great!

Minor note: in the above solution extra line breaks (perhaps on copy-paste) 
broke the code!

<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler={{{ [[$:/state/slider/]addsuffix
] }}} />

should be

<$action-deletetiddler $tiddler={{{ 
[[$:/state/slider/]addsuffix] }}} />

--Atro
On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 5:44:39 PM UTC+3:30 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 6:05:52 AM UTC-8, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>> This is a smart solution Eric! Is it possible to have a button to expand 
>> collapse all tiddler?
>
>
> As two separate buttons:
> <$button> expand all
><$list filter="[tag!sort[title]]">
>
>   <$action-setfield $tiddler={{{ [[$:/state/slider/]addsuffix
> ] }}} text="show" />
>
> 
> <$button> collapse all
><$list filter="[tag!sort[title]]">
>
>   <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler={{{ [[$:/state/slider/]addsuffix
> ] }}} />
>
> 
>
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: list-filter-called titles sliderized

[Atronoush]

This is a smart solution Eric! Is it possible to have a button to expand 
collapse all tiddler?

--Atro


On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:56:07 PM UTC+3:30 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 2:08:47 AM UTC-8, Sapphireslinger wrote:
>>
>> Is there a way to do this?
>>
>> <$list filter="[tag!sort[title]]">
>> <$link><$transclude field="title" mode="block"/> *This 
>> line is what I want sliderized.*
>> <$transclude field="text" mode="block"/> *Only want this to show up 
>> (inline) if I click on the above title.*
>> 
>>
>
> Try this:
> <$list filter="[tag!sort[title]]">
> 
> <$button class="tc-btn-invisible" >
><$text text={{!!title}} />
><$reveal state={{{ [[$:/state/slider/]addsuffix] }}} 
> type="nomatch" text="show">
>   <$action-setfield $tiddler={{{ 
> [[$:/state/slider/]addsuffix] }}} text="show" />
>
><$reveal state={{{ [[$:/state/slider/]addsuffix] }}} 
> type="match" text="show">
>   <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler={{{ 
> [[$:/state/slider/]addsuffix] }}} />
>
> 
> 
> <$reveal state={{{ [[$:/state/slider/]addsuffix] }}} 
> type="match" text="show">
><$transclude field="text" mode="block"/>
> 
> 
>
> Notes:
> * $button uses class="tc-btn-invisible" to make it look like regular text
> * $text shows the current title
> * 1st $reveal sets $:/state/slider/NameOfTiddler to "show" when $button is 
> pressed
> * 2nd $reveal deletes $:/state/slider/NameOfTiddler when $button is pressed
> * 3rd $reveal does $transclude when $:/state/slider/NameOfTiddler is set 
> to "show"
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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Re: [tw5] Tiddlywiki Empty: The size empty.html

[Atronoush]

Hi Mark,

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 8:05:28 PM UTC+3:30 Mark S. wrote:

> There's more than server storage size that's important.
>
> Imagine you were an instructor who wanted to distribute and receive lesson 
> plans via TW to remote students with limited data rate accounts. Having 
> 2megs overhead for each transfer would make the whole process expensive, in 
> addition to slow. 
>

This is a real case! I have seen our colleagues use Tiddlywiki like a Word 
document. A student reads few papers, prepares a summary, discussion and 
compares important results.
He/She uses links to original papers for example on Sciencedirect! In a 
course with few number of students (in that case 17 graduate students) and 
the customized TW they use has 3.2MB size. So, for every HMW the instructor 
receives around 55MB through email or university LMS, comment/grade them 
and return like 55MB again! A ten pages Word docx is around 100kB. So for 
this class one homework is 1700 kB versus 55MB!!

So, if we think of Tiddlywiki as a personal note taking on our thumb drive, 
or personal website on GitHub 10MB or more is okay to work on a rather old 
laptop with 2MB Ram. But if we think single empty.html as a flexible 
universal document then the size matters!

I understand a single file Tidllywiki has a lot of unique features I can 
not find in a Word document, may be this the penalty we pay! more 
flexibility, more feature but bulky .html.

--Mohammad
 

>
> But, as they say, it is what it is. 
>

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[tw5] Re: Modal question (last question today, I promise)

[Atronoush]

Thank you Eric! It works great!

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 12:43:10 PM UTC+3:30 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 12:40:39 AM UTC-8, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>>  Your solution works excellent. My question is : links do not work in 
>> modal, how one can gray out them?
>>
>
> Add this style declaration as the first line of the macro definition:
>  .tc-modal-body a { color:inherit; text-decoration:none; cursor:
> default; } 
>
> Alternatively, you can put the above CSS in a tiddler tagged with 
> $:/tags/Stylesheet (omit the  and  tags).
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>
>

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[tw5] Re: Modal question (last question today, I promise)

[Atronoush]

Hi Eric,
 Your solution works excellent. My question is : links do not work in 
modal, how one can gray out them?

--Atro

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 10:07:31 PM UTC+3:30 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:23:45 AM UTC-8, David Gifford wrote:
>>
>> I just want to make it easier to open modals as tiddlers, for me, to edit 
>> them, and for users, to print them...a simple link to open the tiddler from 
>> the modal...
>
>
> It's sort of a hack, but here's an example, using $action-listops to 
> directly modify the $:/StoryList!!list field contents:
> <$button> open modal
><$action-setfield $tiddler="$:/temp/modal"
>   subtitle="Demo Modal"
>   text="Message goes here"
>   footer="""
>  <$button message="tm-close-tiddler"> close
> <$action-deletetiddler $tiddler="$:/temp/modal"/>
>  
>  <$button message="tm-close-tiddler"> view
> <$action-listops $tiddler="$:/StoryList" 
> $subfilter="[[$:/temp/modal]]" />
>  
>  <$button message="tm-close-tiddler"> edit
> <$navigator>
> <$action-sendmessage $message="tm-edit-tiddler" 
> $param="$:/temp/modal" />
> <$action-listops $tiddler="$:/StoryList" $subfilter="[[Draft 
> of '$:/temp/modal']]" />
> 
>  
>   """ />
><$action-sendmessage $message="tm-modal" $param="$:/temp/modal" />
> 
>
> Notes:
> 1) The $action-listops puts the tiddler at the end of the 
> $:/StoryList!!list
> 2) To move the tiddler to the start of the $:/StoryList!!list, you can 
> use: $subfilter="[[$:/temp/modal]] +[putfirst[]]"
> 3) In either case, modifying the $:/StoryList!!list *does not scroll the 
> tiddler into view*.
>
> enjoy,
> -e
>

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[tw5] Re: TW 5.1.23 and Tones of New Features

[Atronoush]

Hi Tones,
 Unfortunately I have no option in the drop down menu! 

See below image.


[image: 065_chrome.png]



>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: TW 5.1.23 and Tones of New Features

[Atronoush]

Thank you Tones!
In google group, there is a three dots at the right edge and I cannot see a 
button let me edit the subject/content of a post has been sent to the 
group! By the way I appreciate if you kindly explain me how you edit such a 
posts.

Thank you again
-- Atro

On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 1:25:57 AM UTC+3:30 TW Tones wrote:

> Atronoush,
>
>
> On Friday, 30 October 2020 04:16:48 UTC+11, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>> When the message is posted, there is no way to edit and correct!
>> It is tons! Thank you for correcting me!
>>
>
> As the original poster you can edit your post, not only that if you look 
> carefully, there is a separate link to edit subject. 
>
> This is Tones Speaking of course, we Australians write tonne
>
> :)
>
> Tones
>

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[tw5] Re: TW 5.1.23 and Tones of New Features

[Atronoush]

When the message is posted, there is no way to edit and correct!
It is tons! Thank you for correcting me!


On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 8:07:55 PM UTC+3:30 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Do you mean TONES or TONS?
>
>
> On Thursday, 29 October 2020 13:11:51 UTC+1, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>> I have noted Jeremy, Saq, BTC, and some other are very busy to fix bugs 
>> and bring new features to TW 5.1.23 (have a look at 
>> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 to see the number of PR, Issues 
>> have been resolved!)
>>
>> Thank you all!
>>
>>
>>

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[tw5] Re: New Filter Operations in TW 5.1.23

[Atronoush]

Hi Saq,
 Many thanks for explanation and your good TW scripting style (use named 
run prefix)!
 As you said one needs to do some experiments and write several examples to 
understand filters correctly!

 I will bookmark this post for future reference.

--Atro

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 5:10:31 PM UTC+3:30 saq.i...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> *Filter vs subfilter*
>
> In the below example, if you replace  filter with 
> subfilter, you will output the text length rather than the 
> tiddler titles. Go ahead and try that on tiddlywiki.com
>
> The filter operator allows you to limit the output according to the 
> criteria provided by its operand, without changing the input. The most 
> common use case for subfilter is to be able to use a  text reference or 
> variable as a filter.
>
> <$vars myfilter="[get[text]length[]compare:integer:gteq[1000]]">
> <$list filter="[tag[HelloThere]search[po]filter]">
> 
> <$link>
> <$text text=<>/>
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> *Why named filter run prefixes?*
> Simply put because we were running out of characters to use every time we 
> want to add a new run prefix that adds new functionality. Background here: 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/4888#issuecomment-716663427
>
> *else vs ~ vs :else*
> As explained in the link above, existing filter run prefixes have also 
> been made available as named prefixes for consistency. So *~* and *:else* 
> are *identical*. (Moving forwards I would personally transition to only 
> using named run prefixes, with the other single character prefixes being 
> there for backwards compatibility.)
>
> As for *else* vs *:else*, the former is a filter operator and used within 
> a filter run and represents a single filter step, whereas the latter is a 
> filter run prefix.  
>
> Filter runs:
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Run
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Expression
>
> Filter operators and filter steps:
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Step
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Filter%20Operators
>
> *else* can be used as a filter step to output a fixed string, variable or 
> text reference, if the filter run so far has produced no value. (In the 
> below filter the portion "else[yes]" is a filter step, where as the entire 
> line is a single filter run.)
>
> [[HelloThere]is[missing]else[yes]]
>
> *:else* can be used to run an entire new filter run if the previous 
> filter runs have provided no output.
>
> [[HelloThere]is[missing]get[text]] :else[{config}get[text]]
>
> The above filter expression consists of two filter runs, the second has 
> the prefix :else.
>
> I hope this helps. It's a bit tricky to know what needs explanation as I 
> personally do find the existing documentation on filter syntax quite good, 
> *if 
> read carefully and in its entirety*. Hopefully others can fill in if 
> there are still things that are unclear.
>
> PRs with documentation improvements are always welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>

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[tw5] Re: Idea / inspiration for tables?

[Atronoush]

David,
 In my opinion, if we consider the tiddler philosophy, for non single/small 
value cell, it is better to use a tiddler to keep the cell content.
 hen use TiddlyTables or Shiraz Dynamic Tables to create a table and edit 
it in place like Excel (Spreadsheet)

See: 
1. https://kookma.github.io/TW-Shiraz/#Tutorial%20Dynamic%20Tables
2. http://tiddlytables.tiddlyspot.com/

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 4:01:07 PM UTC+3:30 David Gifford wrote:

> Hi all
>
> This post is just to share a vague vision. 
>
> 1. The problems: a) Tables with cell content of any significant length are 
> in TiddlyWiki get really messy in editing mode. Going back to edit them 
> requires a magnifying glass and patience. b) Table cells with, for example, 
> bulleted lists for content, require transclusion.
>
> 2. The inspiration: a) Streams and NotoWritey create new, transcluded 
> lines - external tiddlers that can be edited from within the current 
> tiddler. b) In Roam Research, tables can be created from outlines. c) With 
> the link-to-tabs plugin, a click opens the tiddler for a tab.
>
> 3. The idea: What if there were an editor toolbar button that you could 
> use to insert a transcluded tiddler in a table cell? Details:
> a) The button would create a cell, with an automatically generated title, 
> either a datetimestamp or a title similar to those that Streams generates 
> for each line.
> b) The tiddler would be transcluded in the table cell similar to how they 
> are transcluded in Streams
> c) Clicking or doubleclicking the cell (or maybe clicking on an icon that 
> appears on hovering, similar to the link-to-tab plugin) would either open 
> the tiddler in edit mode, or the cell itself would become an edit-text 
> window. Probably the former makes more sense, but the latter is the vision 
> that inspired this whole idea - similar to clicking on an Excel cell and 
> editing it.
> d) The padding of the transcluded tiddler would need to be reduced somehow 
> so that the table wouldn't be overpadded.
>
> That's it. That is my idea for beefing up tables in TiddlyWiki. My 
> original thought was to have it be a new way of doing tables, where every 
> cell created generated a new transcluded tiddler. That would be really 
> cool, where adding table cells would be as easy as adding lines in Streams.
>
> But that seems extremely complicated, and an overkill solution, 
> unnecessary for most tables. An editor toolbar button to insert such an 
> "editable transclusion of a new tiddler" similar to what one sees in 
> Streams sounds more realistic.
>
> What do you guys think about this idea? Anyone getting inspired to create 
> a new plugin?
>
> Streams: https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/streams.html
> Link to tab plugin: https://wikilabs.github.io/editions/link-to-tabs/
>
>

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[tw5] Re: TW 5.1.23 and Tones of New Features

[Atronoush]

Import rename is a great feature let you rename a tiddler before import!

https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4928

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:41:51 PM UTC+3:30 Atronoush wrote:

> I have noted Jeremy, Saq, BTC, and some other are very busy to fix bugs 
> and bring new features to TW 5.1.23 (have a look at 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 to see the number of PR, Issues 
> have been resolved!)
>
> Thank you all!
>
>
>

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[tw5] New Filter Operations in TW 5.1.23

[Atronoush]

There are some updates, big fixes and new features for filter operators and 
filter operations in TW 5.1.23. While Saq has added documentation for new 
features but some of them needs more examples and explanations. I hope Saq 
or other super users understand filters very good answer these questions 
for clarification


1. What is the difference between filter and subfilter operator? Why we 
need both of them?

2. Why filter named prefixes are used? 
See https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Filter%20Expression ?
 
3. What is the difference of else, ~ and :else ?

Do you recommend any good scripting style? If I am right, it seems you can 
do the same filter operation using different operator and this may be 
confusing for newbies like me!

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[tw5] TW 5.1.23 and Tones of New Features

[Atronoush]

I have noted Jeremy, Saq, BTC, and some other are very busy to fix bugs and 
bring new features to TW 5.1.23 (have a look 
at https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5 to see the number of PR, Issues 
have been resolved!)

Thank you all!


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[tw5] Re: confirmed working on private server (vps)

[Atronoush]

If you look at  https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip
you will see tiddlyclip smart enough to detect the duplicated title. If you 
bookmark the same webpage with different content it append the new text to 
previous bookmark tiddler
If the content is different it adds an ordinal number to title. 

On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 12:18:39 AM UTC+3:30 amreus wrote:

> I think there is a problem though with using the web site title as the 
> tiddler title. As you know, web site titles are not unique but tiddler 
> titles need to be unique.  For bookmarks, it is the url that should be used 
> as the unique id of the bookmark.
>
> So what's the solution to that? (Just looking for opinions.)
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 4:37:50 PM UTC-4 amreus wrote:
>
>> Sanitizing the characters [ ] { } | from the tiddler title is in the dev 
>> branch, I just neglected to mention it.  
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 4:22:03 PM UTC-4 Atronoush wrote:
>>
>>> Good improvement amreus!
>>>
>>>  Like Donald I also support the proposed idea on GitHub repo!
>>>
>>> One issue is about the title is used for tiddler, it is good to resolve 
>>> the issue of nasty character in tiddler title.
>>>
>>> Atro
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 10:43:20 PM UTC+3:30 amreus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, please check out the dev branch 
>>>> <https://github.com/amreus/bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki/tree/dev> -  that 
>>>> is the branch where I pushed some updates, including updated readme.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 10:06:06 AM UTC-4 digit...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> edit to above I see the url is added a field.
>>>>
>>>>

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[tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[Atronoush]

amreus,

On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 11:50:09 PM UTC+3:30 amreus wrote:

> Just playing with an idea I might have read about on this forum.  It's not 
> completely  functioning at moment, but enough of it is that I'm certain it 
> can be made to work.
>
> I made a browser bookmarklet that opens a popup window to your local node 
> tiddlywiki, and appends to the wiki address the url and title of a web 
> site. (Basically sends a HTTP GET request to your wiki, passing the site 
> url and title in the query string.)
>
> The wiki has a tiddler that parses the request back into a url and title 
> variable, which can then be used to create tiddlers, etc. 
>
> I tried to write up some instructions here 
> . Apologies if I'm terse. Please 
> ask if you have questions or feedback.
>

As the Tiddlyspot has gone for now, I suggest to have GitHub page 
for http://amreus.tiddlyspot.com/#markit
 

>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>
>
>
>

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[tw5] Re: confirmed working on private server (vps)

[Atronoush]

Good improvement amreus!

 Like Donald I also support the proposed idea on GitHub repo!

One issue is about the title is used for tiddler, it is good to resolve the 
issue of nasty character in tiddler title.

Atro

On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 10:43:20 PM UTC+3:30 amreus wrote:

> Yes, please check out the dev branch 
>  -  that is 
> the branch where I pushed some updates, including updated readme.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 10:06:06 AM UTC-4 digit...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> edit to above I see the url is added a field.
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Refnotes/Bibtex modification?

[Atronoush Parsi]

Hi Keelan,
While Saq will give you a better answer, I just have a look at your wiki!
Each reference is stored as a tiddler! This is what is done by the BibTex
Importer plugin (official one)
In the reference tiddler all data is stored as user fields lik
bibtex-author, bibtex-title etc...
Now, you want all of them in the text field! The best is a view template!
So you can edit $:/plugins/kookma/refnotes/viewtemplate/bibtex
to meet your requirements!

Wait for complete and elegant solution by Saq



On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 4:29 AM Keelan Cook  wrote:

> Saq, I created a quick empty.html with the relevant plugins. It's actually
> an instance of the TiddlyResearch edition. I know it has modified core
> tiddlers, but decided to take it for a test drive. Though, I don't believe
> that is relevant to this specific question.
>
> In the file, you'll see I've loaded a number of tiddlers from a bibtex
> import. The bibtex plugin parses a bibtex file and creates a tiddler for
> each reference with the corresponding bibliographic fields filled out in
> the tiddler.
>
> The refnotes plugin takes these fields and styles them in the reference
> tiddlers created by importing the file. So, if you open one of these
> reference tiddlers you see at the bottom, under where the text field
> contents are displayed, the title, date of publication, etc. The plugin
> appears to be doing this with
> $:/plugins/kookma/refnotes/viewtemplate/bibtex. What I would like to do is
> take this styled information and move it into the text field contents
> itself instead of it showing up below it.
>
> With the TiddlyResearch plugins, holding shift will cause a popup on
> mouseover that reveals the text field of a linked tiddler. However, with
> this styled information showing up where it does, it will not show up in
> the popup. That's why I want to move it.
>
> Let me know if you have additional questions or need anything else to give
> it a look. Again, thanks for the help!
>
> Keelan
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 10:22:01 AM UTC-5 Keelan Cook wrote:
>
>> Thanks Saq, I appreciate the offer to help.
>>
>> I'll pull it together later today and try to get something soon.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 8:54:47 AM UTC-5 saq.i...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Keelan,
>>>
>>> If you're able to share your file, or a simplified (and sanitized)
>>> version of it, it would be a lot easier to understand what you want to
>>> achieve and how to go about it.
>>>
>>> Feel free to send it to me privately if you do not wish to post it
>>> publicly, along with step by step instructions to see the different
>>> elements you describe.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Saq
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:47:09 PM UTC+1, Keelan Cook wrote:

 Hello all. Quick question. I'm rather inexperienced when it comes to
 coding, and just now dipping my toes in the water of adjusting aspects of
 TiddlyWiki.

 I'm currently using both the bibtex plugin and the refnotes plugin for
 academic research. Of recent, I've started playing with a pop-up function
 that allows me to hold shift and mousover a bibtex link and reveal the
 contents of that tiddler.

 However, the refnotes plugin (which displays the fields of a reference
 tiddler in a nice format) uses a view template to do so (at least I think
 it does). I would prefer if the list widget it's using would somehow
 display in the text field for the tiddler itself.

 Is there a (simple-ish) way to modify this so that the refnotes plugin
 inserts this list into the text field of each bibtex reference
 tiddler instead of where it currently puts it?

 Sorry if the description is unclear, I'm still learning how to describe
 this stuff as well! Any help would be much appreciated, and I'm happy to
 follow-up with more information.

 Thanks.
>>>
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[tw5] Re: How to use TiddlyWiki as a text editor?

[Atronoush]

Thank you Saq for clarifying this!
On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 5:26:32 PM UTC+3:30 saq.i...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> @Atro: not that I know of.
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 2:31:58 PM UTC+1, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>> Saq,
>>  Can I prevent TW from creating .meta files.
>>
>> --Atro
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 8:04:22 AM UTC+3:30 Atronoush wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Saq,
>>>
>>> I see the PR  #2906 
>>> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2906>  has been merged 
>>> into the core! Great feature
>>> I appreciate your efforts.
>>>
>>> Is it possible to add some explanation / short document in tw5.com
>>> so people can find and use this feature later on!
>>>
>>> Thank you
>>> --Atro 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:40:17 AM UTC+3:30 saq.i...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Bimlas,
>>>>
>>>> I am unfamiliar with Boostnote etc, however I do use TiddlyWiki as a 
>>>> tool to work with plain text files for similar reasons.
>>>>
>>>> I load a folder of plain text files using a tiddlywiki.files file. This 
>>>> allows me to load them without the need for inline metadata or an external 
>>>> .meta file.
>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#tiddlywiki.files%20Files
>>>>
>>>> I then have a path defined in $:/config/FileSystemPaths to save these 
>>>> tiddlers back to their original location on editing.
>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Customising%20Tiddler%20File%20Naming
>>>>
>>>> Note however that TiddlyWiki does not allow you to save back to the 
>>>> original location for files loaded via tiddlywiki.files so this requires a 
>>>> patch. I have been using such a patch for over 3 years now with no issues.
>>>>
>>>> Some details here: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2906
>>>> The patch in that issue is out of date, if you need an up to date patch 
>>>> I can provide one for you. In fact I should probably make a PR with the 
>>>> updated patch as I think it addresses some of the concerns raised in that 
>>>> ticket.
>>>>
>>>> When you now edit a tiddler that has been loaded via tiddlywiki.files, 
>>>> it saves back to the original location plus a .meta file is created for 
>>>> that tiddler. If all your data is in the body of the tiddler, then you can 
>>>> simply ignore these .meta files.
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, when creating a new tiddler, to make sure it is saved as .txt 
>>>> make sure to use type text/plain. After creation the type can be changed 
>>>> and the tiddler will still be saved as .txt. Note that this is actually 
>>>> somewhat of a bug but effort is being made to address it while still 
>>>> allowing the user to determine what format a tiddler should be saved in. 
>>>> For details see https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4630
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>> Saq
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:40:02 AM UTC+2, bimlas wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Lately, I’ve been unsure if I really want to use TiddlyWiki, because 
>>>>> no matter how universal single HTML is, it’s still just a big file and it 
>>>>> depends on the browser. Since plain text is the most timeless format 
>>>>> possible (even a text file written in 1963 can still be viewed and edited 
>>>>> today), I thought I would migrate to plain text files. Once I realized 
>>>>> how 
>>>>> I could convert the tiddlers extracted from HTML to the right format for 
>>>>> me, I started looking for a text editor that included both preview and 
>>>>> full 
>>>>> text search. To my great surprise, the latter is supported by very few 
>>>>> programs, so I can only solve it with my own Grep script. After sleepless 
>>>>> nights and short circuits of thought, I came to realize that TiddlyWiki 
>>>>> can 
>>>>> handle separate files. Even if the Node.js TiddlyWiki itself ever ceases 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> exist, the notes will still be usable because they are just text files, 
>>>>> and 
>>>>> if I systematically name the tiddlers, the links between them will still 
>>>>> be 
>>>>> searchable with a simple, software-indepe

[tw5] Re: How to use TiddlyWiki as a text editor?

[Atronoush]

Saq,
 Can I prevent TW from creating .meta files.

--Atro

On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 8:04:22 AM UTC+3:30 Atronoush wrote:

> Hi Saq,
>
> I see the PR  #2906 <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2906>  
> has been merged into the core! Great feature
> I appreciate your efforts.
>
> Is it possible to add some explanation / short document in tw5.com
> so people can find and use this feature later on!
>
> Thank you
> --Atro 
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:40:17 AM UTC+3:30 saq.i...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Bimlas,
>>
>> I am unfamiliar with Boostnote etc, however I do use TiddlyWiki as a tool 
>> to work with plain text files for similar reasons.
>>
>> I load a folder of plain text files using a tiddlywiki.files file. This 
>> allows me to load them without the need for inline metadata or an external 
>> .meta file.
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#tiddlywiki.files%20Files
>>
>> I then have a path defined in $:/config/FileSystemPaths to save these 
>> tiddlers back to their original location on editing.
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Customising%20Tiddler%20File%20Naming
>>
>> Note however that TiddlyWiki does not allow you to save back to the 
>> original location for files loaded via tiddlywiki.files so this requires a 
>> patch. I have been using such a patch for over 3 years now with no issues.
>>
>> Some details here: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2906
>> The patch in that issue is out of date, if you need an up to date patch I 
>> can provide one for you. In fact I should probably make a PR with the 
>> updated patch as I think it addresses some of the concerns raised in that 
>> ticket.
>>
>> When you now edit a tiddler that has been loaded via tiddlywiki.files, it 
>> saves back to the original location plus a .meta file is created for that 
>> tiddler. If all your data is in the body of the tiddler, then you can 
>> simply ignore these .meta files.
>>
>> Lastly, when creating a new tiddler, to make sure it is saved as .txt 
>> make sure to use type text/plain. After creation the type can be changed 
>> and the tiddler will still be saved as .txt. Note that this is actually 
>> somewhat of a bug but effort is being made to address it while still 
>> allowing the user to determine what format a tiddler should be saved in. 
>> For details see https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4630
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Saq
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:40:02 AM UTC+2, bimlas wrote:
>>>
>>> Lately, I’ve been unsure if I really want to use TiddlyWiki, because no 
>>> matter how universal single HTML is, it’s still just a big file and it 
>>> depends on the browser. Since plain text is the most timeless format 
>>> possible (even a text file written in 1963 can still be viewed and edited 
>>> today), I thought I would migrate to plain text files. Once I realized how 
>>> I could convert the tiddlers extracted from HTML to the right format for 
>>> me, I started looking for a text editor that included both preview and full 
>>> text search. To my great surprise, the latter is supported by very few 
>>> programs, so I can only solve it with my own Grep script. After sleepless 
>>> nights and short circuits of thought, I came to realize that TiddlyWiki can 
>>> handle separate files. Even if the Node.js TiddlyWiki itself ever ceases to 
>>> exist, the notes will still be usable because they are just text files, and 
>>> if I systematically name the tiddlers, the links between them will still be 
>>> searchable with a simple, software-independent text search, so they remain 
>>> usable.
>>>
>>> The question is, how can TiddlyWiki be used as a simple text editor? I 
>>> would like to emulate the operation of Boostnote / Joplin / Typora / ...
>>>
>>> For example, if I install Ansel's Markdown 
>>> <https://demo.santosa.family#tw5-markdown> plugin and then copy the 
>>> Markdown files to the tiddlers directory, how can I edit them without 
>>> adding extra metadata? If I edit ".md" files in Tiddly, then it writes them 
>>> back to the drive in JSON format. If I change ".md" to ".tid" extension and 
>>> write "type: x-markdown" at the beginning of the file, it will rewrite the 
>>> file in its original form after editing, but add e.g. the "title" field 
>>> with the current path to the file, which I don't want.
>>>
>>

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Re: [tw5] Re: How to use TiddlyWiki as a text editor?

[Atronoush Parsi]

Thank you Saq!
I will bookmark this thread for my own use cases.

--Atro

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:46 AM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> @Atro
>
> The documentation for tiddlywiki.files was updated at the same time. I see
> this more so as a fix for an unexpected behaviour when using
> tiddlywiki.files, than a new feature.
>
> As for the setup I described earlier in this thread, that is just one way
> to use tiddlywiki.files for a particular workflow. I am not sure that
> belongs on tw.com
>
> However if you feel it would be helpful, a documentation PR describing
> this workflow would be welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
> On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 5:34:22 AM UTC+1, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>> Hi Saq,
>>
>> I see the PR  #2906
>> <https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2906>  has been merged
>> into the core! Great feature
>> I appreciate your efforts.
>>
>> Is it possible to add some explanation / short document in tw5.com
>> so people can find and use this feature later on!
>>
>> Thank you
>> --Atro
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:40:17 AM UTC+3:30 saq.i...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bimlas,
>>>
>>> I am unfamiliar with Boostnote etc, however I do use TiddlyWiki as a
>>> tool to work with plain text files for similar reasons.
>>>
>>> I load a folder of plain text files using a tiddlywiki.files file. This
>>> allows me to load them without the need for inline metadata or an external
>>> .meta file.
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#tiddlywiki.files%20Files
>>>
>>> I then have a path defined in $:/config/FileSystemPaths to save these
>>> tiddlers back to their original location on editing.
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Customising%20Tiddler%20File%20Naming
>>>
>>> Note however that TiddlyWiki does not allow you to save back to the
>>> original location for files loaded via tiddlywiki.files so this requires a
>>> patch. I have been using such a patch for over 3 years now with no issues.
>>>
>>> Some details here: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2906
>>> The patch in that issue is out of date, if you need an up to date patch
>>> I can provide one for you. In fact I should probably make a PR with the
>>> updated patch as I think it addresses some of the concerns raised in that
>>> ticket.
>>>
>>> When you now edit a tiddler that has been loaded via tiddlywiki.files,
>>> it saves back to the original location plus a .meta file is created for
>>> that tiddler. If all your data is in the body of the tiddler, then you can
>>> simply ignore these .meta files.
>>>
>>> Lastly, when creating a new tiddler, to make sure it is saved as .txt
>>> make sure to use type text/plain. After creation the type can be changed
>>> and the tiddler will still be saved as .txt. Note that this is actually
>>> somewhat of a bug but effort is being made to address it while still
>>> allowing the user to determine what format a tiddler should be saved in.
>>> For details see https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4630
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Saq
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:40:02 AM UTC+2, bimlas wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Lately, I’ve been unsure if I really want to use TiddlyWiki, because no
>>>> matter how universal single HTML is, it’s still just a big file and it
>>>> depends on the browser. Since plain text is the most timeless format
>>>> possible (even a text file written in 1963 can still be viewed and edited
>>>> today), I thought I would migrate to plain text files. Once I realized how
>>>> I could convert the tiddlers extracted from HTML to the right format for
>>>> me, I started looking for a text editor that included both preview and full
>>>> text search. To my great surprise, the latter is supported by very few
>>>> programs, so I can only solve it with my own Grep script. After sleepless
>>>> nights and short circuits of thought, I came to realize that TiddlyWiki can
>>>> handle separate files. Even if the Node.js TiddlyWiki itself ever ceases to
>>>> exist, the notes will still be usable because they are just text files, and
>>>> if I systematically name the tiddlers, the links between them will still be
>>>> searchable with a simple, software-independent text search, so they remain
>>>> usable.
>>>>
>>>> The question is, how can TiddlyWiki 

[tw5] Re: How to use TiddlyWiki as a text editor?

[Atronoush]

Hi Saq,

I see the PR  #2906   
has been merged into the core! Great feature
I appreciate your efforts.

Is it possible to add some explanation / short document in tw5.com
so people can find and use this feature later on!

Thank you
--Atro 

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:40:17 AM UTC+3:30 saq.i...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hi Bimlas,
>
> I am unfamiliar with Boostnote etc, however I do use TiddlyWiki as a tool 
> to work with plain text files for similar reasons.
>
> I load a folder of plain text files using a tiddlywiki.files file. This 
> allows me to load them without the need for inline metadata or an external 
> .meta file.
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#tiddlywiki.files%20Files
>
> I then have a path defined in $:/config/FileSystemPaths to save these 
> tiddlers back to their original location on editing.
> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Customising%20Tiddler%20File%20Naming
>
> Note however that TiddlyWiki does not allow you to save back to the 
> original location for files loaded via tiddlywiki.files so this requires a 
> patch. I have been using such a patch for over 3 years now with no issues.
>
> Some details here: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/issues/2906
> The patch in that issue is out of date, if you need an up to date patch I 
> can provide one for you. In fact I should probably make a PR with the 
> updated patch as I think it addresses some of the concerns raised in that 
> ticket.
>
> When you now edit a tiddler that has been loaded via tiddlywiki.files, it 
> saves back to the original location plus a .meta file is created for that 
> tiddler. If all your data is in the body of the tiddler, then you can 
> simply ignore these .meta files.
>
> Lastly, when creating a new tiddler, to make sure it is saved as .txt make 
> sure to use type text/plain. After creation the type can be changed and the 
> tiddler will still be saved as .txt. Note that this is actually somewhat of 
> a bug but effort is being made to address it while still allowing the user 
> to determine what format a tiddler should be saved in. For details see 
> https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/4630
>
> Hope this helps,
> Saq
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:40:02 AM UTC+2, bimlas wrote:
>>
>> Lately, I’ve been unsure if I really want to use TiddlyWiki, because no 
>> matter how universal single HTML is, it’s still just a big file and it 
>> depends on the browser. Since plain text is the most timeless format 
>> possible (even a text file written in 1963 can still be viewed and edited 
>> today), I thought I would migrate to plain text files. Once I realized how 
>> I could convert the tiddlers extracted from HTML to the right format for 
>> me, I started looking for a text editor that included both preview and full 
>> text search. To my great surprise, the latter is supported by very few 
>> programs, so I can only solve it with my own Grep script. After sleepless 
>> nights and short circuits of thought, I came to realize that TiddlyWiki can 
>> handle separate files. Even if the Node.js TiddlyWiki itself ever ceases to 
>> exist, the notes will still be usable because they are just text files, and 
>> if I systematically name the tiddlers, the links between them will still be 
>> searchable with a simple, software-independent text search, so they remain 
>> usable.
>>
>> The question is, how can TiddlyWiki be used as a simple text editor? I 
>> would like to emulate the operation of Boostnote / Joplin / Typora / ...
>>
>> For example, if I install Ansel's Markdown 
>>  plugin and then copy the 
>> Markdown files to the tiddlers directory, how can I edit them without 
>> adding extra metadata? If I edit ".md" files in Tiddly, then it writes them 
>> back to the drive in JSON format. If I change ".md" to ".tid" extension and 
>> write "type: x-markdown" at the beginning of the file, it will rewrite the 
>> file in its original form after editing, but add e.g. the "title" field 
>> with the current path to the file, which I don't want.
>>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: so: personal DreamHost for TW users?

[Atronoush Parsi]

Hi Springer,
 I am sorry to hear that! Yes, one expects at least an announcement a month
in advance to let users take their data from tiddlyspot server.
By the way, for quick setting up another online wikis, I may recommend
GitHub while you have not your own web server/host.
See

https://kookma.github.io/Tiddlywiki-and-GitHub-Pages/
https://kookma.github.io/TW5-GitHub-Saver/

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 6:23 AM springer  wrote:

> Without tiddlyspot, my entire workflow and teaching routine is upended.
>
> I've developed dozens of wikis at tiddlyspot (2005(?)-2020), with only
> spotty backups. I have shared various permalinks for work purposes (usually
> thrilled to be able to share a link to something I can continue to improve,
> rather than sending a static file!), so it's also a professional
> embarrassment to have those links go dead.
>
> (You all saw me lots over the summer, but my in-semester workload is
> heavy. So I'm logging in here only because of the tiddlyspot crisis. I'll
> be anxiously hovering here, and at Simon's blog, for the foreseeable
> future. ;) Best regards to you all...)
>
> -Springer
> On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 7:02:01 PM UTC-4 Surya wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I just saw the disaster :-O
>> My wiki with a lot of knowledge is gone... And saved nowhere else...
>> But... really unbeleavable luckily... I saw now, that you, amreus, saved
>> my wiki.
>> @amreus, I cannot write a private message. If you can write one to me,
>> could you please be so nice to tell me your mail-adress? So I could write
>> you then my mail-adress for getting my wiki from you??
>> That would be an unbeleavable luck
>> Thanks a lot in advance!!!
>>
>> And then...: Is there any other possibility to upload a TW for public use?
>>
>> Surya
>>
>> amreus schrieb am Sonntag, 25. Oktober 2020 um 00:03:04 UTC+2:
>>
>>> I downloaded 128 public tiddlyspot wikis about a week ago.  They were
>>> for my personal use and I wasn't planning on sharing them, but would make
>>> them available if the site doesn't come back.  Hopefully the site can be
>>> restored. I've attached the list I have.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:53:11 AM UTC-4 hww...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Ciao TT:

 I gather you are a fan of DreamHost.  If you have a moment I would
 appreciate a brief comment on how easy/difficult it might be to set up a
 personal account that could host a single TW file.

 I've browsed their site a bit and it looks appealing, but I could not
 find anything that reassures me specifically with respect to TW.

 Cheers,
 Hans

 On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 11:10:17 AM UTC-4 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao Eric
>
> I will write to Dreamhost about this immediately.
>
> TT
>
>
> On Saturday, 24 October 2020 15:58:27 UTC+2, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>
>> On Saturday, October 24, 2020 at 1:40:41 AM UTC-7, Eric Shulman wrote:
>>>
>>> I've sent email directly to Simon and Daniel Baird to let them know
>>> about the problem.
>>>
>>
>> I just received a reply from Simon Baird... and he says: "It's not a
>> simple fix".
>>
>> Here's his blogspot posting explaining the situation:
>> http://tiddlyspot.blogspot.com
>>
>> -e
>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Critiques: Tiddlywiki and Machine Learning

[Atronoush Parsi]

I remember one plugin uses machine learning to answer certain questions
intelligently!
There is no worry to share your private information over the net and like
TW itself, this can be private and on your own
system!


On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 3:24 PM PMario  wrote:

> On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 5:15:10 PM UTC+2, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>> These days using machine learning has affected software engineering in
>> many ways.
>> For example, Gmail is smart and helps you in writing correct english and
>> suggest sentences for you. LinkedIn suggests new connections, and there
>> many mores like Google Assistant and Siri where they use artificial
>> intelligence
>>
>
> Thanks for the reminder to get rid of gmail as a spy mail client. Google
> is already like big brother and it's getting worse all the time.
>
> IMO TiddlyWiki is about owning your data.
>
> -mario
>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[Atronoush Parsi]

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:44 PM amreus  wrote:

> > Please have a look at https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip
>
> I read the page - still don't know what it's for.
>
It is one the most powerful plugin for making bookmarks directly from
Firexfox/Chrome. Clip part of webpage as a tiddler and much more



>
> > 1. Is it possible to prevent overwriting an existing tiddler by adding a
> prefix number like 1, 2, ...?
>
> Yes it's on my short list of things to do.
>
> > 2.Is it possible to have extra fields, especially Text field? I mean
> while a user is allowed to add a special tag, he/she can add some text!
>
> Possible.  One aspect I like about using a bookmarklet is it is its'
> simplicity.  It's more accessible to the user for making customizations.
> Easier and more understandable than hacking a browser plugin.
>
> > 3. What do you think is one can select part of text or image in a
> webpage and bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki can add it as tiddler body (text)?
>
> Also possible if I understand what you mean.  Regular copy and paste
> always works.  Do you mean pre-select text?
>

Opening the target wiki to paste contents distract you from
studying/searching in the browser. It would be great to add pre-selected
text/image. It is kind of clipping.

>
> Thanks for asking these questions. You gave me an idea that maybe I can
> use a tiddler in the wiki as customization, or configuration tiddler for
> the form.
>
>
> Thank you for sharing this useful tool.


> On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 9:26:30 AM UTC-4 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> amreus,
>>  Please have a look at https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip
>>  You can get some good idea to develop TiddlywikiBookmarklet
>>
>> Atro
>>
>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 11:50:09 PM UTC+3:30 amreus wrote:
>>
>>> Just playing with an idea I might have read about on this forum.  It's
>>> not completely  functioning at moment, but enough of it is that I'm certain
>>> it can be made to work.
>>>
>>> I made a browser bookmarklet that opens a popup window to your local
>>> node tiddlywiki, and appends to the wiki address the url and title of a web
>>> site. (Basically sends a HTTP GET request to your wiki, passing the site
>>> url and title in the query string.)
>>>
>>> The wiki has a tiddler that parses the request back into a url and title
>>> variable, which can then be used to create tiddlers, etc.
>>>
>>> I tried to write up some instructions here
>>> <http://amreus.tiddlyspot.com/#markit>. Apologies if I'm terse. Please
>>> ask if you have questions or feedback.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [tw5] writing to tiddlers?

[Atronoush Parsi]

Use Commander to do this automatically for you!
https://kookma.github.io/TW-Commander/

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 2:12 AM Jean-Pierre Rivière <
jn.pierre.rivi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I my wiki, I have often forgotten to put the type as tw5 wikitext. I have
> not been able to set this as the default type BTW (any idea?)
>
> I can list all such relevant tiddlers with:
>
> <$list filter="[field:type[]!prefix[$:/]]"> %% <$link/>
>
> and then correct them all manually. Could I manage to do it automatically?
> Perhaps passing by a button an,d an activation mechanism would help?
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[tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[Atronoush]

amreus,
 Please have a look at https://github.com/buggyj/tiddlyclip
 You can get some good idea to develop TiddlywikiBookmarklet

Atro

On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 11:50:09 PM UTC+3:30 amreus wrote:

> Just playing with an idea I might have read about on this forum.  It's not 
> completely  functioning at moment, but enough of it is that I'm certain it 
> can be made to work.
>
> I made a browser bookmarklet that opens a popup window to your local node 
> tiddlywiki, and appends to the wiki address the url and title of a web 
> site. (Basically sends a HTTP GET request to your wiki, passing the site 
> url and title in the query string.)
>
> The wiki has a tiddler that parses the request back into a url and title 
> variable, which can then be used to create tiddlers, etc. 
>
> I tried to write up some instructions here 
> . Apologies if I'm terse. Please 
> ask if you have questions or feedback.
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[Atronoush Parsi]

Hi amreus,

 It works now! Thank you!

Some minor suggestions:

1. Is it possible to prevent overwriting an existing tiddler by adding a
prefix number like 1, 2, ...?
2.Is it possible to have extra fields, especially Text field? I mean while
a user is allowed to add a special tag, he/she can add some text!
3. What do you think is one can select part of text or image in a webpage
and bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki can add it as tiddler body (text)?


Possible issue
The  bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki allow to add new tiddler even with title
containing forbidden characters like | {} etc.
I may recommend to replace such character in title when you create a new
bookmark.

Thank you again and best wishes.

Atro

On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 11:43 AM amreus  wrote:

> 2 initial thoughts..
>
> 1. This will only work with the TiddlyWiki node server. It does not work
> with the Bob server because it has a different API.
> 2. Be sure to use 127.0.0.1:8080 and not localhost:8080 in the
> bookmarklet. It matters to avoid the cross-site scripting issue.
>
> I made some small changes to the files on github to remove the alert, but
> show the xhr.status in the popup.  The popup will close on success but
> remain open on an error.
>
> If you still have errors, open the dev console (press F12 with the popup
> focused) before pressing the Save button and show the console text here.
> Since I am not getting any errors in either Firefox or Chrome, it's hard to
> know what is going on. Thanks.
>
>
> On Monday, October 26, 2020 at 3:03:06 AM UTC-4 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> The same error on Firefox!
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:41 PM amreus  wrote:
>>
>>> "Testing? We don't need no stinking Testing."
>>>
>>> Seriously, though I use Firefox and will need to try it using Chrome.  I
>>> don't have it installed but do have a portable version I can try.
>>>
>>> If you know how to open the Chrome developer console, it would be
>>> helpful to see if there are any errors generated when you hot the "Save"
>>> button.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-4 Atronoush wrote:
>>>
>>>> amreus
>>>>  Thank you for sharing. I created a new wiki tiddlywiki mywiki --init
>>>> serverand then created an extra folder files in mywiki folder with
>>>> form.html and func.js as you advised.
>>>>  Running new wiki using  tiddlywiki mywiki --listen csrf-disable=yes  
>>>> everything
>>>> was fine
>>>>  Now from TWMark bookmarks with bookmark.js, I tried to add a page to
>>>> my TW in Chrome 83.
>>>>  The form opens and let me add tag and save!
>>>>  But I got this error:
>>>>
>>>> localhost: 8080 says
>>>> xhr.status: 0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 8:50 PM amreus  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just wanted to post the latest code of my bookmarking-to-tw tests.
>>>>> Briefly, it works by using a bookmark that opens a popup with a form that
>>>>> is populated with the current site title and url, allows editing of 
>>>>> fields,
>>>>> then sends the data as a new tiddler in a TiddlyWiki running on a node
>>>>> server.  It's a 2-click solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are few parts to the setup, but the files are small and
>>>>> hopefully understandable:
>>>>>
>>>>>1. A bookmarklet
>>>>>2. A static html form
>>>>>3. Javascript functions
>>>>>4. Server options
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. The bookmarklet is placed in your browser's toolbar. It opens a
>>>>> pop-up window getting its contents from the static html form. Because the
>>>>> origin of the popup is the same as the wiki server, there are no 
>>>>> cross-site
>>>>> scripting issues. The site title and url are passed to the html file as
>>>>> part of the url using  the u= and t= parameters.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. A static html file used for a popup window.  I named mine form.html.
>>>>> This is a html file which is opened by the bookmarklet. The static file
>>>>> contains a form, and includes the javascript functions, and buttons to
>>>>> submit or cancel.  A javascript function is used to parse the parameters
>>>>> from the url and populate the forms. The file lives in the files/
>>>>> folder under your node 

Re: [tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[Atronoush Parsi]

The same error on Firefox!

On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 11:41 PM amreus  wrote:

> "Testing? We don't need no stinking Testing."
>
> Seriously, though I use Firefox and will need to try it using Chrome.  I
> don't have it installed but do have a portable version I can try.
>
> If you know how to open the Chrome developer console, it would be helpful
> to see if there are any errors generated when you hot the "Save" button.
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-4 Atronoush wrote:
>
>> amreus
>>  Thank you for sharing. I created a new wiki tiddlywiki mywiki --init
>> serverand then created an extra folder files in mywiki folder with
>> form.html and func.js as you advised.
>>  Running new wiki using  tiddlywiki mywiki --listen csrf-disable=yes  
>> everything
>> was fine
>>  Now from TWMark bookmarks with bookmark.js, I tried to add a page to my
>> TW in Chrome 83.
>>  The form opens and let me add tag and save!
>>  But I got this error:
>>
>> localhost: 8080 says
>> xhr.status: 0
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 8:50 PM amreus  wrote:
>>
>>> Just wanted to post the latest code of my bookmarking-to-tw tests.
>>> Briefly, it works by using a bookmark that opens a popup with a form that
>>> is populated with the current site title and url, allows editing of fields,
>>> then sends the data as a new tiddler in a TiddlyWiki running on a node
>>> server.  It's a 2-click solution.
>>>
>>> There are few parts to the setup, but the files are small and hopefully
>>> understandable:
>>>
>>>1. A bookmarklet
>>>2. A static html form
>>>3. Javascript functions
>>>4. Server options
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. The bookmarklet is placed in your browser's toolbar. It opens a
>>> pop-up window getting its contents from the static html form. Because the
>>> origin of the popup is the same as the wiki server, there are no cross-site
>>> scripting issues. The site title and url are passed to the html file as
>>> part of the url using  the u= and t= parameters.
>>>
>>> 2. A static html file used for a popup window.  I named mine form.html.
>>> This is a html file which is opened by the bookmarklet. The static file
>>> contains a form, and includes the javascript functions, and buttons to
>>> submit or cancel.  A javascript function is used to parse the parameters
>>> from the url and populate the forms. The file lives in the files/
>>> folder under your node wiki location.
>>>
>>> 3.The javascript file (funcs.js in this case)contains helper functions
>>> that send the form data to the node server using the WebServer API
>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer%20API>.
>>>
>>> 4. Run the server using the *csrf-disable* option set to *yes*.
>>>
>>> It's cool to see it working, but there's lot's of room for improvement.
>>> For example I'd like to grab some meta tags from the html as well as just
>>> the title and url.
>>>
>>> I put the files on github:
>>> https://github.com/amreus/bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any questions or thoughts. I'm just a hobbyist
>>> and all my knowledge comes from Stackoverflow, so any improvements would be
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 8:45:53 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been tinkering with batch importing from Chrome an dFirefox, but
>>>> that did not solve the "once I have them all in TW what to do going
>>>> forward" with my TWBookmarks ideas. I will have to come back to this,
>>>> thanks!
>>>>
>>>> I think this is a great start! Here is the pertinent Docs on
>>>> Tiddlywiki.com:
>>>>
>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer:WebServer%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%5D%5D%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D%20%5B%5BTiddlyWeb%20JSON%20tiddler%20format%5D%5D
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Joshua Fontny
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-7 amreus wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Just playing with an idea I might have read about on this forum.  It's
>>>>> not completely  functioning at moment, but enough of it is that I'm 
>>>>> certain
>>>>> it can be made to work.
>>>>>
>>&g

Re: [tw5] Re: Bookmark to a TiddlyWiki Bookmarklet proof-of-concept.

[Atronoush Parsi]

amreus
 Thank you for sharing. I created a new wiki tiddlywiki mywiki --init serverand
then created an extra folder files in mywiki folder with form.html and
func.js as you advised.
 Running new wiki using  tiddlywiki mywiki --listen csrf-disable=yes
everything
was fine
 Now from TWMark bookmarks with bookmark.js, I tried to add a page to my TW
in Chrome 83.
 The form opens and let me add tag and save!
 But I got this error:

localhost: 8080 says
xhr.status: 0



On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 8:50 PM amreus  wrote:

> Just wanted to post the latest code of my bookmarking-to-tw tests.
> Briefly, it works by using a bookmark that opens a popup with a form that
> is populated with the current site title and url, allows editing of fields,
> then sends the data as a new tiddler in a TiddlyWiki running on a node
> server.  It's a 2-click solution.
>
> There are few parts to the setup, but the files are small and hopefully
> understandable:
>
>1. A bookmarklet
>2. A static html form
>3. Javascript functions
>4. Server options
>
>
> 1. The bookmarklet is placed in your browser's toolbar. It opens a pop-up
> window getting its contents from the static html form. Because the origin
> of the popup is the same as the wiki server, there are no cross-site
> scripting issues. The site title and url are passed to the html file as
> part of the url using  the u= and t= parameters.
>
> 2. A static html file used for a popup window.  I named mine form.html.
> This is a html file which is opened by the bookmarklet. The static file
> contains a form, and includes the javascript functions, and buttons to
> submit or cancel.  A javascript function is used to parse the parameters
> from the url and populate the forms. The file lives in the files/ folder
> under your node wiki location.
>
> 3.The javascript file (funcs.js in this case)contains helper functions
> that send the form data to the node server using the WebServer API
> .
>
> 4. Run the server using the *csrf-disable* option set to *yes*.
>
> It's cool to see it working, but there's lot's of room for improvement.
> For example I'd like to grab some meta tags from the html as well as just
> the title and url.
>
> I put the files on github:
> https://github.com/amreus/bookmarking-to-tiddlywiki
>
> Let me know if you have any questions or thoughts. I'm just a hobbyist and
> all my knowledge comes from Stackoverflow, so any improvements would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks for looking.
>
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 8:45:53 PM UTC-4 joshua@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've been tinkering with batch importing from Chrome an dFirefox, but
>> that did not solve the "once I have them all in TW what to do going
>> forward" with my TWBookmarks ideas. I will have to come back to this,
>> thanks!
>>
>> I think this is a great start! Here is the pertinent Docs on
>> Tiddlywiki.com:
>>
>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#WebServer:WebServer%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%5D%5D%20%5B%5BWebServer%20API%3A%20Put%20Tiddler%5D%5D%20%5B%5BTiddlyWeb%20JSON%20tiddler%20format%5D%5D
>>
>> Best,
>> Joshua Fontny
>>
>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-7 amreus wrote:
>>
>>> Just playing with an idea I might have read about on this forum.  It's
>>> not completely  functioning at moment, but enough of it is that I'm certain
>>> it can be made to work.
>>>
>>> I made a browser bookmarklet that opens a popup window to your local
>>> node tiddlywiki, and appends to the wiki address the url and title of a web
>>> site. (Basically sends a HTTP GET request to your wiki, passing the site
>>> url and title in the query string.)
>>>
>>> The wiki has a tiddler that parses the request back into a url and title
>>> variable, which can then be used to create tiddlers, etc.
>>>
>>> I tried to write up some instructions here
>>> . Apologies if I'm terse. Please
>>> ask if you have questions or feedback.
>>>
>>> Thanks for looking.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Re: Keyword Extraction - Project

[Atronoush Parsi]

Hi Lin

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 6:32 PM Lin Onetwo  wrote:

> Hi, Tones
>
> Great idea, automating linking and tagging will be a boost to the writing.
> We normally consume time to do this by hand, and automatically do this in
> English (instead of in Chinese and Japanese) is very easy, as there are
> many tools.
>
> I would recommend https://github.com/spencermountain/compromise#topics to
> extract topies, and maybe LDA https://github.com/primaryobjects/lda
>

The LDA is a machine learning tool, it would be great if this kind of
library is developed for Tiddlywiki so it can recognize tiddler, tiddler
fields, ...


>
> You can even do rule-based matching using
> https://github.com/catalogm/compromise-match2 , so you can create your
> own precise matching rules to do topic extraction.
>
> Maybe you can do this in some hooks of tiddlywiki? I am not fremiliar with
> hooks.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> LinOnetwo
>
> 在2020年10月22日星期四 UTC+8 上午7:17:37 写道：
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I just thought I would let you know what I am working on to seek input.
>>
>> *Background*
>>
>>- Many of you use tags and tiddlers to categorise tiddlers, be it
>>tags or fields such as lists.
>>- The information used to do this is often found in the text you type
>>or data you imported.
>>- I am trying to automate this to a high degree to extract and
>>formalise keywords and key phrases and generate tiddlers.
>>
>>
>> *My Project*
>>
>>- I am currently working on methods to extract content from the text
>>and other fields to create keywords and key phrases as tiddlers.
>>- Once created the freelinks plugin should highlight them, where ever
>>they appear.
>>- When Viewing a tiddler I can list all the keywords and key phrases
>>found in the content, and with a link widget click to create keyword
>>tiddlers and add what I want to a separate list.
>>- Once I have a selected list of keywords and key phrases
>>   - I would like to order them by importance
>>   - Be able to insert them in a text field then compose text that
>>   uses each selected keyword. I am authoring content for organic search.
>>
>> *Help needed*
>>
>>- I would like to extract words from content, excluding "if, and, or,
>>but, not, the" etc... and generate links to tiddlers of each name.
>>- Sometimes we want a phrase rather than a word.
>>- What if that content is HTML or JSON?
>>
>> Your thoughts would be appreciated.
>>
>> Regards
>> Tones
>>
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[tw5] Re: Critiques: Tiddlywiki and Machine Learning

[Atronoush Parsi]

The Tones suggestion here
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b203b7f7-0204-4a20-a47f-76c30346adceo%40googlegroups.com
<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b203b7f7-0204-4a20-a47f-76c30346adceo%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
can be answered through machine learning

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 6:44 PM Atronoush Parsi  wrote:

> These days using machine learning has affected software engineering in
> many ways.
> For example, Gmail is smart and helps you in writing correct english and
> suggest sentences for you. LinkedIn suggests new connections, and there
> many mores like Google Assistant and Siri where they use artificial
> intelligence
>
> Is there any plugin for using machine learning in Tiddlywiki? or is there
> any plan for developers to add such features to Tiddlywiki?
>
> Small examples
>
> - suggest and add tags based on the tiddler text
> - suggest and autofill links, it can create [[xx yy]]
> - suggest words when searching and show tiddlers you open more frequently
> - use voice recognition to type in different languages (this already
> exists around and may be a plugin can be developed to use it better, like
> say add tag, add field, ...)
> - add bullets (create unordered list) based on typing
>
> I think we can write a long list here
>
> It seems some company started using AI for note taking see this one
> https://otter.ai/login
>
> By the way, next five years
>
>

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[tw5] Critiques: Tiddlywiki and Machine Learning

[Atronoush Parsi]

These days using machine learning has affected software engineering in many
ways.
For example, Gmail is smart and helps you in writing correct english and
suggest sentences for you. LinkedIn suggests new connections, and there
many mores like Google Assistant and Siri where they use artificial
intelligence

Is there any plugin for using machine learning in Tiddlywiki? or is there
any plan for developers to add such features to Tiddlywiki?

Small examples

- suggest and add tags based on the tiddler text
- suggest and autofill links, it can create [[xx yy]]
- suggest words when searching and show tiddlers you open more frequently
- use voice recognition to type in different languages (this already exists
around and may be a plugin can be developed to use it better, like say add
tag, add field, ...)
- add bullets (create unordered list) based on typing

I think we can write a long list here

It seems some company started using AI for note taking see this one
https://otter.ai/login

By the way, next five years

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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

TT,

 1. Drop the first artwork svg in https://tiddlywiki.com/
2. Rename the new imported image tiddler to  New Release Banner  
3. Save the wiki and reload
4. Look at the HelloWorld tiddler

It will demonstrates how new release banner works.
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 9:08:49 PM UTC+3:30 TiddlyTweeter wrote:

> Ciao Atronoush
>
> I understand where you coming from, But the "mask" in outline does not 
> work well. 
> It visually evokes other things. For instance the shape of the head of a 
> teddy-bear.
> In particular *the loops for the ears are far too short *to convey a mask.
>
> I know its a PITA, and not wanting to diss your effort, but that image 
> only kinda works because of Covid. 
> Prior to it it would be very confusing.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
>
> On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:00:39 UTC+2, Atronoush wrote:
>
>> The colorful mask is sent again! There was a need to align horizontally 
>> center the elements.
>>
>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask_colorful.png]
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Atronoush Parsi  
>> wrote:
>>
> Hi Jeremy,
>>>  Here I send two banner images, both created in Inkscape. So, you or 
>>> other interested people can edit and customize it.
>>>
>>> Artwork one: The circles means TW is a modular, lego-wise framework and 
>>> also it is maintained by a lovely community (group of users [outer circles] 
>>> and group of developers [inner circles])
>>> [image: TW5.1.23.png]
>>>
>>> Artwork two: This second artwork reflects the pandemic
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask.png]
>>> Artwork three: same as two with colorful face mask
>>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask_colorful.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> --Atro
>>>
>>>
>>> P.s: The second artwork uses a free open source icon from flaticon.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:55 AM Jeremy Ruston  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>> TiddlyWiki v5.1.23 is nearing release with many exciting updates; see 
>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease to try it out. As usual, I’d like to 
>>>> hold a competition to design the banner image that is shown on the splash 
>>>> screen and within the opening HelloThere tiddler.
>>>>
>>>> The rules for the competition are:
>>>>
>>>> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
>>>> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>>>> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>>>> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new 
>>>> in 5.1.23” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>>>> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up 
>>>> in a previous competition
>>>> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>>>>
>>>> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>>>>
>>>> v5.1.22 - 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
>>>> v5.1.21 - 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>>>>
>>>> Inspiration might come from some of the new features in v5.1.22, or 
>>>> perhaps reflect something of the uniqueness of this peculiar year. If 
>>>> you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the skills to 
>>>> produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in case another 
>>>> person would like to work on the artwork.
>>>>
>>>> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is 
>>>> more than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes and many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
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[tw5] Re: Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

Alfonso,
I think this is a release banner and not Tiddlywiki Lego! I think the 
Motovun is the TW Lego!
https://tiddlywiki.com/#Motovun%20Jack.svg 

But you are right may be Jeremy should describe those criteria, like Font 
and other elements.

-Atro 

On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 4:41:22 AM UTC+3:30 Alfonso Arciniega 
wrote:

> Any consideration for creating a font for TiddlyWiki, for permanently use 
> in banners and logos? Having distinctive font and logo could make TW easier 
> to identify everywhere, and maybe more "serious" o more "corporate". We 
> could still create banners using the same font. Any thoughts?
>
> Alfonso
>

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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

Thank you all! It was just a try, I am sure we have great designer and we 
will have much better artworks!

On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 1:29:08 AM UTC+3:30 TW Tones wrote:

> Atro
>
>
> Great work, if you leave the colour off as in the second image it works 
> because most masks are mono-chrome anyway. 
>
> A "homage" to covid is a great idea, and if the meaning fades in time that 
> is OK. 
>
> Good work
>
> Regards
> Tony
>
>
> On Wednesday, 21 October 2020 02:53:59 UTC+11, Atronoush wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeremy,
>>  Here I send two banner images, both created in Inkscape. So, you or 
>> other interested people can edit and customize it.
>>
>> Artwork one: The circles means TW is a modular, lego-wise framework and 
>> also it is maintained by a lovely community (group of users [outer circles] 
>> and group of developers [inner circles])
>> [image: TW5.1.23.png]
>>
>> Artwork two: This second artwork reflects the pandemic
>>
>>
>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask.png]
>> Artwork three: same as two with colorful face mask
>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask_colorful.png]
>>
>>
>> --Atro
>>
>>
>> P.s: The second artwork uses a free open source icon from flaticon.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:55 AM Jeremy Ruston  
>> wrote:
>>
> TiddlyWiki v5.1.23 is nearing release with many exciting updates; see 
>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease to try it out. As usual, I’d like to 
>>> hold a competition to design the banner image that is shown on the splash 
>>> screen and within the opening HelloThere tiddler.
>>>
>>> The rules for the competition are:
>>>
>>> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and 
>>> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>>> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>>> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new 
>>> in 5.1.23” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>>> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up 
>>> in a previous competition
>>> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>>>
>>> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>>>
>>> v5.1.22 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
>>> v5.1.21 - 
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>>>
>>> Inspiration might come from some of the new features in v5.1.22, or 
>>> perhaps reflect something of the uniqueness of this peculiar year. If 
>>> you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the skills to 
>>> produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in case another 
>>> person would like to work on the artwork.
>>>
>>> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is more 
>>> than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.
>>>
>>> Best wishes and many thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeremy
>>>
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[tw5] Re: Github Pages Workflow

[Atronoush]

Have you seen these repos and demos

https://github.com/kookma/TW5-GitHub-Saver
https://github.com/kookma/Tiddlywiki-and-GitHub-Pages

Look at Kookma repos there are good example with detailed explanations.

On Wednesday, October 21, 2020 at 8:36:51 AM UTC+3:30, Rika Sukenik wrote:
>
> hey all, i'm fairly new to Git and am having a hard time adding the 
> index.html file to my Github repo. If you use Github Pages to host your 
> wiki, can you please share your workflow? 

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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush Parsi]

TT, consider artwork one.

--Atro

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 9:09 PM TiddlyTweeter 
wrote:

> Ciao Atronoush
>
> I understand where you coming from, But the "mask" in outline does not
> work well.
> It visually evokes other things. For instance the shape of the head of a
> teddy-bear.
> In particular *the loops for the ears are far too short *to convey a mask.
>
> I know its a PITA, and not wanting to diss your effort, but that image
> only kinda works because of Covid.
> Prior to it it would be very confusing.
>
> Best wishes
> TT
>
> On Tuesday, 20 October 2020 18:00:39 UTC+2, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>> The colorful mask is sent again! There was a need to align horizontally
>> center the elements.
>>
>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask_colorful.png]
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 7:23 PM Atronoush Parsi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeremy,
>>>  Here I send two banner images, both created in Inkscape. So, you or
>>> other interested people can edit and customize it.
>>>
>>> Artwork one: The circles means TW is a modular, lego-wise framework and
>>> also it is maintained by a lovely community (group of users [outer circles]
>>> and group of developers [inner circles])
>>> [image: TW5.1.23.png]
>>>
>>> Artwork two: This second artwork reflects the pandemic
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask.png]
>>> Artwork three: same as two with colorful face mask
>>> [image: TW5.1.23_mask_colorful.png]
>>>
>>>
>>> --Atro
>>>
>>>
>>> P.s: The second artwork uses a free open source icon from flaticon.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 11:55 AM Jeremy Ruston 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> TiddlyWiki v5.1.23 is nearing release with many exciting updates; see
>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease to try it out. As usual, I’d like to
>>>> hold a competition to design the banner image that is shown on the splash
>>>> screen and within the opening HelloThere tiddler.
>>>>
>>>> The rules for the competition are:
>>>>
>>>> * The version number (with the correct punctuation) must be clear and
>>>> readable even when the banner is shown at a reduced size
>>>> * The image must be a PNG, JPEG or SVG of exactly 560x315 pixels
>>>> * The bottom 46 pixels will be obscured by the banner text “What’s new
>>>> in 5.1.23” when it is displayed within HelloThere
>>>> * Feel free to enter an updated version of artwork that was a runner-up
>>>> in a previous competition
>>>> * Reply to this message with your entry, or any questions
>>>>
>>>> Here are the posts about previous artwork competitions:
>>>>
>>>> v5.1.22 -
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/rYrja18_SfQ/m/JAklPfjfAwAJ
>>>> v5.1.21 -
>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/l47ZZzWdDb8/m/6s0p_3QeCgAJ
>>>>
>>>> Inspiration might come from some of the new features in v5.1.22, or
>>>> perhaps reflect something of the uniqueness of this peculiar year. If
>>>> you’ve got a great idea for the banner image, but don’t have the skills to
>>>> produce finished artwork, do feel free to share your ideas in case another
>>>> person would like to work on the artwork.
>>>>
>>>> The competition will be open for a week, at which point if there is
>>>> more than one submission I’ll set up a Google Form for voting.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes and many thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Jeremy
>>>>
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Re: [tw5] Competition for v5.1.23 artwork

[Atronoush]

Eric,
 Thank you for your explanation and reference to license!

When you download the icon there is a license information, click on more 
info shows

License summary
Our license allows you to use the content:

For commercial and personal projects
On digital or printed media
For an unlimited number of times and perpetually
Anywhere in the world
To make modifications and derived works

But it said attribution is required.  and explains: How to attribute?

For example: websites, social media, blogs, ebooks, newsletters, etc.

Copy this link and paste it wherever it's visible, close to where you’re 
using the resource. If that's not possible, place it at the footer of your 
website, blog or newsletter, or in the credits section.
Icons made by https://www.flaticon.com/authors/freepik; 
title="Freepik">Freepik from https://www.flaticon.com/; 
title="Flaticon">www.flaticon.com

But, as you explained it may better NOT to use the second (and third) 
artwork!

--Atro

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 8:00:46 PM UTC+3:30 Eric Shulman wrote:

> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 8:53:59 AM UTC-7, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>> The second artwork uses a free open source icon from flaticon.
>>
>
> Note the FlatIcon terms of use: 
> https://www.freepikcompany.com/legal#nav-flaticon
>
> In Section 8. "License Agreement for Flaticon Content", it states:
>
> The authorization to use the content in the Flaticon Content *shall be 
>> free provided that **any use of the content in the Flaticon Content by 
>> the User is credited to the Company/Website* as stated by the Company 
>> from time to time. In order to benefit from the Service or to use the 
>> content in the Flaticon Content without acknowledging the Company/Website, 
>> the User must purchase a subscription (hereinafter, the "Subscription") in 
>> the Website and download the content in the Flaticon Content during the 
>> term of any such Subscription. Conditions in Section 9 shall apply to the 
>> purchase of the Subscription.
>
>
> Thus, if we use a "free" FlatIcon image on TiddlyWiki.com, we need to 
> include a statement (perhaps in https://tiddlywiki.com/#License), 
> indicating the source of the image.
>
> For example, in my InsideTiddlyWiki book, I have this legal statement: 
> http://tiddlytools.com/InsideTW/#Legal%2FLicenses
>
> -e
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Re: [tw5] Tiddlywiki 5.1.23 when it will be released?

[Atronoush Parsi]

Hi Dear Jeremy,

 I hope you are fine, doing well!

That is great news to have TW 5.1.23 soon released. Thank you for all your
efforts.

Minor suggestion: while it is announced for a new banner artwork, is it
possible to list those new features that need documentation and volunteers
help with that!
I note some new features may need a minimum documentation and more examples
e.g. new format:date[]

By the way I really appreciate your time and talent for bringing us a new
TW release this amazing piece of work.

Stay healthy!

--Atro

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 10:43 AM Jeremy Ruston 
wrote:

> Hi Atro
>
> Indeed, v5.1.23 is shaping up to be a very interesting release. Although
> I've been quiet on the group I've been working away on GitHub with the
> other contributors, and hope to do the release in the next week or two.
>
> Shortly I'll post details of the banner artwork competition for v5.1.23.
> There are some outstanding pull requests that need attention too.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Jeremy.
>
> --
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> jer...@jermolene.com
> https://jermolene.com
>
> On 20 Oct 2020, at 07:43, Atronoush Parsi  wrote:
>
> 
> TW 5.1.23pre has tons of new features, it is Oct 20, 2020
> Is there any chance to have this new release anytime soon?
>
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[tw5] Tiddlywiki 5.1.23 when it will be released?

[Atronoush Parsi]

TW 5.1.23pre has tons of new features, it is Oct 20, 2020
Is there any chance to have this new release anytime soon?

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Re: [tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

[Atronoush Parsi]

Thanks for clarification Saq!

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 2:37 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> @Atro this is a quick mashup to see how Muuri would interact with the
> Stories plugin, and is not meant to be used for anything other than
> testing. As such there are no buttons to configure Muuri in that setup.
>
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 12:48:32 PM UTC+2, Atronoush wrote:
>>
>> This is lovely Saq!
>> In the second example I don't see the Murri columns button to change the
>> number of columns!
>> How can one set the target story river (column) when clicking a
>> tiddler title in the right side bar?
>>
>> Atro
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 1:31 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the clarification @BTC.
>>>
>>> I did a quick mashup adding Stories to your Muuri demo.
>>> Works pretty well, you can have Muuri in both stories or just one.
>>>
>>> I think having a classic story view in the default story and muuri in
>>> the second could be very powerful for making good use of a large screen for
>>> some of my workflows.
>>>
>>> If you are curious, the files are here:
>>> Muuri in both stories:
>>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/temp/muuri-stories.html
>>>
>>> Muuri in the second story only, with the first story only using 35% of
>>> available space.
>>> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/temp/muuri-stories-alt.html
>>>
>>> Being able to drag between stories could be very handy. I've considered
>>> adding that for the Stories plugin but ultimately didn't have the
>>> motivation for it. With Muuri it would have greater appeal.
>>>
>>> Anyway, don't let me distract you with all the talk of multiple stories
>>> :)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Saq
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 10:17:55 AM UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi @Saq,
>>>>
>>>> >If I understand correctly, does that mean the number of columns would
>>>> be have the hardcoded via CSS? Or is there a parameter to the list widget
>>>> for it?
>>>>
>>>> There's no parameter for the list widget for the columns, it's
>>>> hardcoded via CSS. I use "width: calc((100% / <>) - <> -
>>>> (<> / <>));"
>>>>
>>>> >I was wondering if there could be additional optional attributes to
>>>> the list widget, such as "columns", which points by default
>>>> to $:/state/config/muuri/storyview/columns.
>>>>
>>>> As said above, the columns aren't handled within the storyview, they
>>>> are pure CSS
>>>>
>>>> >I have also noticed that after changing the number of columns, the
>>>> layout of the muuri tiles can be off (overlapping) until one of the tiles
>>>> is dragged. Perhaps a refreshEnd reflow is needed?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, I've also noticed that, I'll have to investigate further
>>>>
>>>> all the best,
>>>> BTC
>>>>
>>>> saq.i...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Oktober 2020 um 10:08:23
>>>> UTC+2:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi @BTC,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) I've now fixed your issue with using the core
>>>>>> $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate as a template, it does no more lay out using the
>>>>>> columns of the columns-button. Their width however needs to be defined
>>>>>> using a css...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> If I understand correctly, does that mean the number of columns would
>>>>> be have the hardcoded via CSS? Or is there a parameter to the list widget
>>>>> for it?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was wondering if there could be additional optional attributes to
>>>>> the list widget, such as "columns", which points by default
>>>>> to $:/state/config/muuri/storyview/columns.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) There's another attribute ("storyList") that defines the tiddler
>>>>>> whose list field should be updated. This defaults to "$:/StoryList"
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This resolves the refresh issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have also noticed that after changing the number of columns, the
>>>>> layout of the muuri tiles can be off (overlapping) until one of the t

Re: [tw5] Re: Muuri Storyview

[Atronoush Parsi]

This is lovely Saq!
In the second example I don't see the Murri columns button to change the
number of columns!
How can one set the target story river (column) when clicking a
tiddler title in the right side bar?

Atro

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 1:31 PM Saq Imtiaz  wrote:

> Thanks for the clarification @BTC.
>
> I did a quick mashup adding Stories to your Muuri demo.
> Works pretty well, you can have Muuri in both stories or just one.
>
> I think having a classic story view in the default story and muuri in the
> second could be very powerful for making good use of a large screen for
> some of my workflows.
>
> If you are curious, the files are here:
> Muuri in both stories:
> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/temp/muuri-stories.html
>
> Muuri in the second story only, with the first story only using 35% of
> available space.
> https://saqimtiaz.github.io/sq-tw/temp/muuri-stories-alt.html
>
> Being able to drag between stories could be very handy. I've considered
> adding that for the Stories plugin but ultimately didn't have the
> motivation for it. With Muuri it would have greater appeal.
>
> Anyway, don't let me distract you with all the talk of multiple stories :)
>
> Cheers,
> Saq
>
> On Sunday, October 18, 2020 at 10:17:55 AM UTC+2, BurningTreeC wrote:
>>
>> Hi @Saq,
>>
>> >If I understand correctly, does that mean the number of columns would be
>> have the hardcoded via CSS? Or is there a parameter to the list widget for
>> it?
>>
>> There's no parameter for the list widget for the columns, it's hardcoded
>> via CSS. I use "width: calc((100% / <>) - <> - (<>
>> / <>));"
>>
>> >I was wondering if there could be additional optional attributes to the
>> list widget, such as "columns", which points by default
>> to $:/state/config/muuri/storyview/columns.
>>
>> As said above, the columns aren't handled within the storyview, they are
>> pure CSS
>>
>> >I have also noticed that after changing the number of columns, the
>> layout of the muuri tiles can be off (overlapping) until one of the tiles
>> is dragged. Perhaps a refreshEnd reflow is needed?
>>
>> Thanks, I've also noticed that, I'll have to investigate further
>>
>> all the best,
>> BTC
>>
>> saq.i...@gmail.com schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Oktober 2020 um 10:08:23
>> UTC+2:
>>
>>> Hi @BTC,
>>>
>>>
 1) I've now fixed your issue with using the core
 $:/core/ui/ViewTemplate as a template, it does no more lay out using the
 columns of the columns-button. Their width however needs to be defined
 using a css...

>>>
>>> If I understand correctly, does that mean the number of columns would be
>>> have the hardcoded via CSS? Or is there a parameter to the list widget for
>>> it?
>>>
>>> I was wondering if there could be additional optional attributes to the
>>> list widget, such as "columns", which points by default
>>> to $:/state/config/muuri/storyview/columns.
>>>
>>>
 2) There's another attribute ("storyList") that defines the tiddler
 whose list field should be updated. This defaults to "$:/StoryList"

>>>
>>> This resolves the refresh issue.
>>>
>>> I have also noticed that after changing the number of columns, the
>>> layout of the muuri tiles can be off (overlapping) until one of the tiles
>>> is dragged. Perhaps a refreshEnd reflow is needed?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Saq
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Muuri Storyview

[Atronoush Parsi]

On Sun, Oct 18, 2020 at 11:32 AM BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> Hi @Atronoush,
>
> > Assume you use Murri with 3 columns and then click on the column button
> to switch to 4! But then you want to return to three columns!
> Right now you have to cycle, click to switch to 5 and six columns and then
> 1, 2 and finally 3 columns.
> Is there any way like shift+click to return from 4 to 3? or any simpler
> method?
> I know shift+click is not good for touch screens!
>

Lovely! works like a charm and these are the easiest!

>
> At the moment there's the cycling button and the keyboard shortcuts
> alt-shift-Right and alt-shift-Left. I was thinking about different ways but
> these are the easiest.
> For touch screens I could implement touch gestures like swiping left /
> right, but that's not that easy to implemen
>

Yep, that is true! But I use a multi-column layout on a big screen which is
not a touch screen :-(

>
>

> BTC
>

Thank you BTC.

>
> Atronoush schrieb am Sonntag, 18. Oktober 2020 um 08:01:23 UTC+2:
>
>> Question:
>>
>> Assume you use Murri with 3 columns and then click on the column button
>> to switch to 4! But then you want to return to three columns!
>> Right now you have to cycle, click to switch to 5 and six columns and
>> then 1, 2 and finally 3 columns.
>> Is there any way like shift+click to return from 4 to 3? or any simpler
>> method?
>> I know shift+click is not good for touch screens!
>>
>> Atro
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 12:08 PM BurningTreeC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello dear TiddlyWikians :)
>>>
>>> Right now I'm working on a better Muuri storyview. You can find its
>>> progress and Demo page here:
>>> https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-muuri/
>>>
>>> It's more simple than previous versions and has less bells and
>>> whistles...
>>>
>>> As always, I welcome ideas, criticism and help :)
>>>
>>> all the best, BTC
>>>
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Re: [tw5] Muuri Storyview

[Atronoush Parsi]

Question:

Assume you use Murri with 3 columns and then click on the column button to
switch to 4! But then you want to return to three columns!
Right now you have to cycle, click to switch to 5 and six columns and then
1, 2 and finally 3 columns.
Is there any way like shift+click to return from 4 to 3? or any simpler
method?
I know shift+click is not good for touch screens!

Atro

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 12:08 PM BurningTreeC 
wrote:

> Hello dear TiddlyWikians :)
>
> Right now I'm working on a better Muuri storyview. You can find its
> progress and Demo page here:
> https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-muuri/
>
> It's more simple than previous versions and has less bells and whistles...
>
> As always, I welcome ideas, criticism and help :)
>
> all the best, BTC
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Re: [tw5] Muuri Storyview

[Atronoush Parsi]

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 1:53 PM BurningTreeC 
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> Hello @Atronoush, thank you!
>
> It's possible to control the direction flow from right to left, left to
> right, top to bottom and bottom to top... see the open control panel
> options on the demo page
>
Oh, thanks!


> About two rivers like the Stroll plugin... The Muuri library that's used
> here lays out tiddlers in a certain way, moving them to calculated free
> space in a certain manner. There's no way to control that like the Stroll
> plugin does.
> The Notebook theme from Nicolas Petton looks very interesting! Thanks for
> the link! I was thinking about something like that for mobile use
>

Murri brings a new feel and looks into Tiddlywiki.  So please keep going on!

>
> BTC
>
> Atronoush schrieb am Samstag, 17. Oktober 2020 um 11:51:00 UTC+2:
>
>> Hi BTC
>> This is absolutely amazing! I will go through and have some comments
>> later.
>>
>> For now:
>> Is it possible to control direction of flow? I mean have a setting to
>> control how tiddlers appear from right side to left or from left side to
>> right?
>> Can we use the new muuri plugin the same way as two rivers stream plugin
>> (e.g in Stroll )? I mean having two columns, keep some certain tiddlers on
>> the left side, some on the right side?
>>
>> On touch screen specially on small screen, Murri plugin with Notebook
>> theme from Niclos Petton
>> https://nicolas.petton.fr/tw/project-manager.html are great combinations!
>>
>> Thank you again
>>
>> Atro
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 12:08 PM BurningTreeC 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello dear TiddlyWikians :)
>>>
>>> Right now I'm working on a better Muuri storyview. You can find its
>>> progress and Demo page here:
>>> https://burningtreec.github.io/tiddlywiki-muuri/
>>>
>>> It's more simple than previous versions and has less bells and
>>> whistles...
>>>
>>> As always, I welcome ideas, criticism and help :)
>>>
>>> all the best, BTC
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